pls help. my whole family can just *do it* and ive been stressing 3 months with no progress 😭😭😭 i put my tounge behind top teeth but the sound ends up coming from the throat *like i'm clearing my throat* how to i make my tounge flap/vibrate and where is this air meant to even come from 😭😭😭
air comes from the throat, put your tongue tip more behind, not at the teeth, or the middle of the palate, dont force youe tongue it must be relaxed in order to vibrate, follow your intuition and start trying to make the sound, you'll gett to it.
I recently learned how to make this sound. I am a native English speaker and it has been so hard to do. I can't do it 100% of the time, but am getting better steadily.
I just started getting back into Japanese because of Covid. Not much to do but to learn another language. Hopefully it'll be worth it. :) Self teaching glad I got RUclips and apps to teach me the alphabet. :) Want to learn the culture more. :)
I’m a heritage speaker of Chinese and grew up in Italy. We always referred to the trilled R sound as 卷舌, which I know is not correct in Chinese, where 卷舌 refers to another set of consonants (retroflex sounds, like /ʂ/ and /ʐ/). It’s interesting to see that Japanese uses 巻き舌 the same way us heritage Chinese speakers do! Who knows where we got it from, it just sounds so logical!
Most of the time the double r (rr) in Portuguese is softened to a strange french-style throat sound, but I didn't know that they also can and do trills like in Spanish and Italian as well!
Thank you for watching:) I'm not really sure if all Portuguese speakers use the trilled R or not, but it seems like they use it at least in some regions according to this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_dental,_alveolar_and_postalveolar_trills
John Doe All Asian People(except middle east) naturally roll their R when they are angry, or whenever they want to like on news... Only Americans, Africans, and Australian or new zealanders cannot roll their R.
Actually Trilled R is the Indonesian R sound literally everywhere. Yet, as a native I am too lazy to use it, and use tap R sound instead which is easier for me 😂.
Thank you for watching😆 The G sound is a voiced consonant. The unvoiced version of the G sound is the K sound. The word “日本語” is pronounced /ɲihoŋŋo/ or /ɲihoŋgo/. Some people pronounce it as /ɲippoŋgo/, but this is barely used. I’ll cover all the Japanese consonant sounds in this channel. So, I'm gonna make a video on the G sound sometime soon! I already did a video on the K sound. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/rBKnKglHoJU/видео.html
Hello! Im a J native speaker. In standard J(= Eastern dialect of J), /g/ (phoneme) is supposed to be [ŋ] in complex situations such as medial positions (I dont know in detail.). In general, [ŋ] arent used at all in the Western dialect of J. But even in Eastern J, less and less people are using [ŋ]. People who use [ŋ] following standards may be announcers. [ŋ] is on the way to disappearing. So you can always use [g]. Some native speakers oddly think [ŋ] is "beautiful". compared to [g].
"i bet you haven't" me literally here because I'm wondering if I'm doing the Japanese rolled R sound right (apparently I was sliightly off, thanks for the correction along with the several examples!)
Yup...this R is really really difficult to pronounce, cuz the "tip" (or rather a part it) of the tongue needs to have a kind of tension to it that is not too hard but also not too soft, so the passing air can cause it to "quickly tap" the gum ridge, almost like flapping. If you would slow down an audio recording of a rolling R pronunciation, you could clearly distinguish each seperate "tap". It would sound like a quickly repeating normal japanese "R" with a sharper/more clear sound to it. If I'm not mistaken, Russians use it as well. Polish folks too.
Trying to teach my spouse how to the Ri sound includes the D sound, but cant explain it well. I learned in japanese class in middle school, so i dont know how the teacher taught it.
As a Ukrainian and Russian languages speaker, it is easy to pronounce to me :) I also know Polish language and I can say that this language has such sound. And I know that Belorussian language has it, so probably most of Slavic languages can do rolling R, if not all of them.
I like a song called Tus Ojitos by Campanas de America. I just took the name from the band. I don’t really speak Spanish though! Thank you for watching the video:)
i am not sure what it is about the japanese langauge that just seems to come so natural to me as a swedish native speaker. And with the rolling r it feels even closer lol
Is it really only when you're pissed off? I always thought that the R was pronounced differently in Japan. In the Netherlands our R is pronounced with a Uvular Trill, but when I hear Japanese people pronounce the R in any word with an R, it always sounds like they use a Alveolar Trill.
Oh great, I’m going to sound pissed off when I learn to pronounce Japanese words with ‘r’ because I’m struggling to stop rolling my ‘r’s’. I speak Spanish.
pls help. my whole family can just *do it* and ive been stressing 3 months with no progress 😭😭😭 i put my tounge behind top teeth but the sound ends up coming from the throat *like i'm clearing my throat* how to i make my tounge flap/vibrate and where is this air meant to even come from 😭😭😭
@@PCs454 nope 😭😭 let me know if you ever figure it out either. the best i can do is attempt to roll it through my throat enough to make my tongue vibrate (if that makes sense) and it somewhat works but doesnt sound the same 😭
@@Basil-. omg wait so you like *clear your throat* and that *coughy clearing sound* from your throat ends up making tongue vibrate ??? i ended up doing that too! 😶 but then the roof of my mouth and throat gets REALLY sore 😭 so im trying to UNLEARN this "fake way" 😔 I like *clear my throat* and make english sound: Grrrrrrrrrrrr but it doesnt sound the same - like if the sound correctly came from *tongue flapping in the air* Basically: i put tounge at top behind teeth, and blow air outward... but my tounge DOESNT FLAP it stays still so ofc i blow HARDER - still nothing . and so subconciously I do Oh... theres no *flapping sound* lets make a sound *using my THROAT AND VOICE* , so i *clear my throat* with the tongue at top and that *clearing throat* sound makes it vibrate But this "fake way" i KNOW AND FEEL its wrong cos now theres *NO AIR*
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Don't stop there! Teach us how to put trilled R in actual speaking!
I WAS TRYING SO HARD TO EXPLAIN THIS TO A FRIEND!!! They were so confused as to what i was talking about. Thank you! Now I have a word for it too. 😅👏
Thank you for watching! Great!!! Glad to hear that😆
I looked up Japanese rolling their R's and found this video, so cool. I did because I was watching the anime, どろろ and heard it a lot. Thanks 😊 👍
Thank you for watching!!! Glad you liked it😆
That anime slapped man.
@@campanasdejapaneseI didn't know that Japanese have the same rolling R as Spanish.
Ironically I'm using this to learn how to pronounce "р" in russian 😅
Thanks for the cool how-to
Thank you for watching!!! I didn’t know Russian P was pronounced with the trilled R. Glad it was helpful anyway though:)
Los rusos perdieron con los japos k pena
@@kimper_ayqpa are you talking about war? I don't speak Spanish so I had to use Google translate lol sorry
Same here🥲
Russian and Greek P is R!
Most of my friends couldn't roll R
Instead, they would say "rurururuuru"
pls help. my whole family can just *do it* and ive been stressing 3 months with no progress 😭😭😭 i put my tounge behind top teeth but the sound ends up coming from the throat *like i'm clearing my throat* how to i make my tounge flap/vibrate and where is this air meant to even come from 😭😭😭
air comes from the throat, put your tongue tip more behind, not at the teeth, or the middle of the palate, dont force youe tongue it must be relaxed in order to vibrate, follow your intuition and start trying to make the sound, you'll gett to it.
I recently learned how to make this sound. I am a native English speaker and it has been so hard to do. I can't do it 100% of the time, but am getting better steadily.
As I mentioned in this video, this is not the formal Japanese sound, so you don't need to learn it if you're learning Japanese.
I've started learning japanese for real because of the quarantine and I'm very glad I found your channel, thank you !
Thank you for watching:) Glad you did too!!
I just started getting back into Japanese because of Covid. Not much to do but to learn another language. Hopefully it'll be worth it. :) Self teaching glad I got RUclips and apps to teach me the alphabet. :) Want to learn the culture more. :)
There is also rr in the Chinese dialect I speak.
Amazing video and exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
ご視聴ありがとうございます！ Glad to hear that:)
Lol I needed this explanation after watching a yakuza movie, thanks!
I’m a heritage speaker of Chinese and grew up in Italy. We always referred to the trilled R sound as 卷舌, which I know is not correct in Chinese, where 卷舌 refers to another set of consonants (retroflex sounds, like /ʂ/ and /ʐ/). It’s interesting to see that Japanese uses 巻き舌 the same way us heritage Chinese speakers do! Who knows where we got it from, it just sounds so logical!
Most of the time the double r (rr) in Portuguese is softened to a strange french-style throat sound, but I didn't know that they also can and do trills like in Spanish and Italian as well!
Thank you for watching:) I'm not really sure if all Portuguese speakers use the trilled R or not, but it seems like they use it at least in some regions according to this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_dental,_alveolar_and_postalveolar_trills
yes we have, even in brazil, tho maybe in portugal is more common
John Doe All Asian People(except middle east) naturally roll their R when they are angry, or whenever they want to like on news... Only Americans, Africans, and Australian or new zealanders cannot roll their R.
I figured out the portuguese 'rr' sound is an UNVOICED french r :D
@@iceinducer9528 the MSA uses trilled r tho formally
Actually Trilled R is the Indonesian R sound literally everywhere. Yet, as a native I am too lazy to use it, and use tap R sound instead which is easier for me 😂.
I'm finnish, now I can speak japanese fluently. Thanks
I also would like to learn about silent "K" or "G" sound. For example: 日本語 It is pronounced "ni hongo" but also "ni honn o"
Thank you for watching😆 The G sound is a voiced consonant. The unvoiced version of the G sound is the K sound.
The word “日本語” is pronounced /ɲihoŋŋo/ or /ɲihoŋgo/. Some people pronounce it as /ɲippoŋgo/, but this is barely used.
I’ll cover all the Japanese consonant sounds in this channel. So, I'm gonna make a video on the G sound sometime soon! I already did a video on the K sound. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/rBKnKglHoJU/видео.html
@@campanasdejapanese okay, thank you!
By the way, the [ŋ] is an ng sound as in “ring” - /rɪŋ/.
Hello! Im a J native speaker. In standard J(= Eastern dialect of J), /g/ (phoneme) is supposed to be [ŋ] in complex situations such as medial positions (I dont know in detail.). In general, [ŋ] arent used at all in the Western dialect of J. But even in Eastern J, less and less people are using [ŋ]. People who use [ŋ] following standards may be announcers. [ŋ] is on the way to disappearing. So you can always use [g]. Some native speakers oddly think [ŋ] is "beautiful". compared to [g].
"i bet you haven't"
me literally here because I'm wondering if I'm doing the Japanese rolled R sound right
(apparently I was sliightly off, thanks for the correction along with the several examples!)
Yup...this R is really really difficult to pronounce, cuz the "tip" (or rather a part it) of the tongue needs to have a kind of tension to it that is not too hard but also not too soft, so the passing air can cause it to "quickly tap" the gum ridge, almost like flapping. If you would slow down an audio recording of a rolling R pronunciation, you could clearly distinguish each seperate "tap". It would sound like a quickly repeating normal japanese "R" with a sharper/more clear sound to it. If I'm not mistaken, Russians use it as well. Polish folks too.
Me over here trying to sound like Chuuya Nakahara
Here for the same reason😅
oh youve watched an anime before, you know the sound
I can do a short trill like trr drr nrr. Must pronounce with a consonant. ☹️ I really cannot do rrrrrrrr or ra ro ri without a consonant
Thank you for watching:) This article might help!! www.supercocoapp.com/post/how-to-roll-your-rs/
I struggle to make a TH which makes it double or sound a trilled R almost
Trying to teach my spouse how to the Ri sound includes the D sound, but cant explain it well. I learned in japanese class in middle school, so i dont know how the teacher taught it.
I've been looking for an explanation for this, thank you
今日はゲ-ムをやって、これを聞きました。おもしろそうですね。ありがとう！
こちらこそ、ご視聴いただきありがとうございます！
Thank you for the interesting video!!
As a Ukrainian and Russian languages speaker, it is easy to pronounce to me :) I also know Polish language and I can say that this language has such sound. And I know that Belorussian language has it, so probably most of Slavic languages can do rolling R, if not all of them.
I didn't know that Japanese had the spanish, italian, dutch, russian, nordic and greek R trill.
Because it can.
@@cheerful_crop_circle they just didn't use it don't they
Your channel is amazing. 😍💕
Just found this, so late comment. Am I wrong, but Rs sound like ds to me? For example warui sounds like wadui to me.
Everytime I hear that Japanese strong rolling sound all I can think of is yakuza gangsters threating each other!
¿Campanas de japanese? ¿Sabes español? Encontré este video buscando la razón por qué los japoneses a veces usaban la r fuerte
I like a song called Tus Ojitos by Campanas de America. I just took the name from the band. I don’t really speak Spanish though! Thank you for watching the video:)
@@campanasdejapanese I didn't know the song, but it's great! You have a good taste and a great channel. Keep the goor work
I will! Thank you:)
Son samurais cristianos con la época de oda Nobunaga y edo
oh i can do it easily cuz i rolled my r when i was kid when im bored
i am not sure what it is about the japanese langauge that just seems to come so natural to me as a swedish native speaker. And with the rolling r it feels even closer lol
Your English is amazing
It sounds nice like Osaka-ben
Is it really only when you're pissed off? I always thought that the R was pronounced differently in Japan. In the Netherlands our R is pronounced with a Uvular Trill, but when I hear Japanese people pronounce the R in any word with an R, it always sounds like they use a Alveolar Trill.
Glad I found this. Subbed. :) Hello from America. :) Can I have you as my teacher? XD you seem like a really nice guy. Lol. :)
I want the franky sound
That must mean we Russians are pissed off all the time XD.
Funny, as a Latino, the trill R carries a masculine seductive tone.
Some people with thick,long tongues can't roll theirs like normal people do.
this helped a lot XD
AGRRRREVATED ASSAULT (do not hurt anyone this is a joke and my life)
Oh great, I’m going to sound pissed off when I learn to pronounce Japanese words with ‘r’ because I’m struggling to stop rolling my ‘r’s’. I speak Spanish.
But your one R as in Sara, not two Rs in a row as in carro, is the legit Japanese R sound. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/hpRArmZxfFM/видео.html
Japanese uses this R trill when they are angry right?
dont trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroll me!!
This is so funny. Vietnamese can speak rolling R sound so i learned it so fast.
pls help. my whole family can just *do it* and ive been stressing 3 months with no progress 😭😭😭 i put my tounge behind top teeth but the sound ends up coming from the throat *like i'm clearing my throat* how to i make my tounge flap/vibrate and where is this air meant to even come from 😭😭😭
@@PCs454 SAME! my whole family and my friends can do it so easily but i just don’t understand how 😭😭
@@Basil-. did you find any help 😭 i hate using "english R" it doesnt sound native 😭💔
@@PCs454 nope 😭😭 let me know if you ever figure it out either. the best i can do is attempt to roll it through my throat enough to make my tongue vibrate (if that makes sense) and it somewhat works but doesnt sound the same 😭
@@Basil-. omg wait so you like *clear your throat* and that *coughy clearing sound* from your throat ends up making tongue vibrate ???
i ended up doing that too! 😶 but then the roof of my mouth and throat gets REALLY sore 😭 so im trying to UNLEARN this "fake way" 😔
I like *clear my throat* and make english sound: Grrrrrrrrrrrr but it doesnt sound the same - like if the sound correctly came from *tongue flapping in the air*
Basically:
i put tounge at top behind teeth, and blow air outward... but my tounge DOESNT FLAP it stays still
so ofc i blow HARDER - still nothing . and so subconciously I do
Oh... theres no *flapping sound* lets make a sound *using my THROAT AND VOICE* , so i *clear my throat* with the tongue at top and that *clearing throat* sound makes it vibrate
But this "fake way" i KNOW AND FEEL its wrong cos now theres *NO AIR*
naisu
Yakuza use rolling R's
Yup!
Eso hablan los yaluza
As be French, even /r/ is not natural for me....
Sounds like a saw.
did pewdiepie get an asian transplant?