HEMA instructors in rapier sparring: Lee Smith vs. Richard Marsden
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"Do those pommels unscrew?" Thats right, we heard you Skall.
Hamish Woodland there must always be a way to end them rightly!
I like how Skall didn't even acknowlage this comment.
Fun fact in an old manuscript it says that unscrewing the pommels and throwing the blade at the opponent to kill them is called to finish him rightly
Hello Skallagrim fans! I'm one of the guys in the video and wanted to thank you all for being such dedicated viewers for Skallagrim. I've seen quite a few you-tube communities and you're by far the best. Keep interested, keep watching and share with your friends!
Thanks again for giving the saber seminar and letting me record your sparring, Richard.
I'm guessing this is one of the rare people you don't end rightly? Also, good thing they where wearing masks, or they may flag this video.
Well this profile picture makes you even more likable.
Richard, you are a HEMA instructor, correct? I am looking to get into sparring with sabers. Do you have any pointers you can give to me here?
Sure! Go to HEMA Alliance website and find local club. We have a mapfinder for North America and Europe.
Contact the nearest club and see what they have for you.
Or, buy my Polish Saber book. Easy to find on Amazon.com and can get you started on that system.
wait a minute, you cant just hold your arm out and poke forward 50 times?
dark souls 3 PVP has lied to me
It stops the joke from being clever or funny when you ruin it with a "if you don't get it then X"
Fatclap Mans right ill remove it
that was clever or funny
+Reaperrz And during battles, knights didn't buff or roll with i-frames ? :(
This is fucking gold hahahahahaha :D
I had a teacher who was a historical fencer, he used a style passed through generations in his family; he was a direct descendant of don Juan Quijada de Reayo, one of the most prominent fencers in the old Spanish fencing style. Sadly he died without passing the style because nobody was willing to be his student :/
saddening
Well, these things tend to pass from one family member to the next as there are both esoteric and exoteric knowledge to martial arts and especially fencing so not everything can nor should be passed through to strangers. It is the exact same for my family. However, it is very sad that so much knowledge died and didn't have the opportunity to be passed.
Great video. Unfortunately at the beginning when the screen was dark I saw my reflection on the desktop so I will have to flag the video. Still thanks for the upload.
I'm sorry you had to witness that horror I was fortunately not in full screen so I did not have to see my own reflection.
Just throw a pommel at your screen.
That'll solve your reflection issues.
I think that's probably the greatest comment. Ever.
what are you referencing?
Guilherme Frainer I would like to know too
Awful lot of waiting between bursts of activity. Enough to unscrew a pommel, even.
Aaand here comes Skal's pommel joke. Darn.
i think its super hot on that day and you see their sweat at the end, so they are probably more tired than usual
In a bout such as this the point is "not" to get hit so a lot of caution is taken to be deliberate with ones tactics and deliveries. Its not as exciting as the movies but real life seldom is.
Probably a mix of tired and waiting for the moment to strike when the opponent isn't fully expecting it
See, if you had Ricard's Rapier, you could have used that awesome power attack. You know, the one that takes 6 years to project, then gets instantly parried and kills you? Best attack ever.
he fed it to frampt
+Burnt Taco my Dark Souls experience
"dude theres this cool weapon"
"I fed it to Frampt lolol"
I remember first trying it out and thinking "man, this has to be the best weapon ever, right?" Wrong.
JazzMan Right? A few weapons are like that. "Holy crap this looks awesome! Too bad it's actually garbage." lol.
It seemed to improve in DS2 and 3
Watch out skal, the swords in the back might not want to be in the video luls
its a public place they consented to being there, but in youtube land they can issue a takedown
what is the anime which picture is your profile pic? (sorry if i mispelled something)
+mario “mariotroll2” madrazo sancho K-On I think
thanks!
ye watch out! They might be throwing their Pommels ;)
What I find so fascinating about these guys is that just about every time they spar there is never a clear winner...they are both on such a high skill level it almost always comes down to luck or a careless mistake, but neither gets careless very much.
There was a mod made for Skyrim recently that features many of Skall's weapons, called "Skallagrim's Armory"" on the Skyrim Nexus.
Looks like I'll have to start playing Skyrim... AGAIN.
Does it feature pommels?
Just kidding. The game would be so unbalanced, you could kill a dragon with one shot.
you can do that anyway it wouldn't unbalance it at all . . . it would be the accurate representation of the power of pommels
Frank Wier No, sadly. The author has said that it is the most requested feature and they are working on somthing though.
I'd like to think there was a pianist with a grand piano just out of camerashot playing that song.
"Stab at me bro."that was funny
No. No, it wasn’t.
"stab me with the blade"
0:37 the legend never dies!
This isn't the legend, Lee Smith leveled dex.
It's fine so long as he doesn't tell anyone he levelled that up
Strong memes, Giant Dad would approve.
There's something I have to tell you, I am not right handed.
😉
I get the reference. :D
+Tiche CoMC
You are a cool person 😉
quite funny if you watched closely
well
I have something to tell you
I'm not right handed either ;]
Heyy me neither
suprised, no one got ended rightly, no honour!
I think the pommels were nailed
unail them
Skal actually said "do the pommels unscrew?"
This is just friendly sparring, we wouldn't want anyone to get hurt
2:41 I hope they did unscrewing but no....
watch out somebody's shadow might not want to be in the video
Oh no, another Skallagrimeme. I can smell it, damnit.
+Johan TheIdiot like a skallagreme?
*Onetwo Threefour
Skallagreme - not a bad name!
The Skallagreme. Well, better than my suggestion, anyhow. Let's see if we can't spread this like wildfire.
What is that about?
Having now taken an intro class at B&I, and seen Lee spar in person, it really hits home how damn good Mr. Marsden is.
Cool stuff.
a fkn 6 year old kid with 1 year Olympia fencing training would easily beat 90% of the Hema community....go larping, its way more fun...you are just neckbeards playing knights...no martial arts involved
"Light contact" ... but it's in the eye. Any contact would hurt like a bitch
in real battle? you shouldnt be bothered with some contact with your eye, you shouldnt waste your time thinkin youre about to lose one eye when youre about to lose your life.
that doesn't stop pain from occurring
the adrenalin of figthing for your life does :P
If you get stabbed in the eye, even lightly, you've already lost your sight - at the very least, you'd blink and be open to attack if you weren't blinded by either the blade piercing the eyeball or blood flowing into the eye from the cut
+Dr4gonDestroyer That's when a good 'ole "Nighmarish training from hell" comes in handy...
'Do those pommels unscrew?' Skall is a keen student indeed! Always looking for the advantage!
0:57
"Do those pommels unscrew?"
Why aren't they playing tag with their rapiers ? They fight like if that kind of weapon could hurt someone !
I know, right? :)
1:53 I'm no Rapier Instructor but that's a killing strike, right?
If you're a pansy, I guess.
as someone who use to fence, i feel I MUST say that some of red socks lunges are far to slow....
sry but thats my exp with this
I was hoping that Richard was going to throw his pommel a Lee at the 2:40 point. In all seriousness though, what was he fiddling with his weapon for?
Switching to the other hand
They switched hands at that point
I was getting tired. This was at the end of the day after classes and other sparring. But, glad it came out well.
HEMA is a grocerie store where i am from
Same
Often, when I watch a video with HEMA in the title, in the side bar I get videos about make up...
NETHERLANDS!
rookworsten!
Lars :'D ja inderdaad xD
the rapier has to be one of my favorite swords
I didn't even realize this was Skall until I heard him talk. I was just looking for a good example of rapier sparring lol
Thanks Skall for these videos. I loved.
The only thin missing is HP bars and special gauge.
Don't forget the souls
Don't forget the Stamina bar.
"do those pommels come off"
we're proud of you skall
this is amazing! especially like how still they appear until one of them see's an opening, also liked how pronounced Richard is with his weight on the back foot, his stance is very relaxed almost ragdoll like but than he pounced like a cat! Lee seemed to have most of his weight on the leading leg... is this correct?
thanks for the vid Skall :)
I watched the match shift when the hand switch happened and instantly thought of The Princess Bride where the protagonist indicates he is not using his dominant hand and they switch... too funny.
@ 0:35
"Well! What is it!"
I think he plays Dark Souls. That was almost one-to-one the gesture.
They are equally good. Damn. I need to learn more of this stuff really. At first it seems that they are going in a slow pace, but irl, im sure there's a lot of adrenaline going on in the process. Nice.
I like how it is slow and controlled, technique not flash. There is speed, but only when needed. I wish movies did this, the tension builds up.
I'm impressed by how much control of their point they retain, even in the most ''violent'' of binds.
0:37 This is known in the proffesional circles as the "come at me" technique
An elegant weapon from a more civilized age
Seeing these, you realize that rapier and other unarmored sword combat would result in really horrific injuries, holy shit.
Gee, swords could cause harm. Who knew? ;)
Well, you assume they would but you're less aware of how likely an eyeball or mouth stab is going to be.
A large sword would lop off a limb or just kill you fast... while thin swords made for puncturing... They will enter and just destroy all your organs, and all you can do is sit there and bleed out slowly. it's not fast like losing an arm or a head, it's very, very, very slow and i could imagine very painful.
highlighting how important precision is, rather than just speed
In real combat you're not using your hand to grab the rapier eithet so you might as well allow light contacts in my opinion. It would allow more fluent movement.
What was with the slow-mo close up of the baby cut on the knee after being thrust in the heart?
Oy man, any chance we get to see more videos like this? I'm a historian and love the content you put out.
As ever, it's beautiful watching these guys sparr. :)
Watch out Skall!
One of them swords in the background might flag your video!
"I apologize for calling your wife a bloated warthog"
Very late comment but, these rapiers seem quite flexible, the metal bending quite easily. Is this just done for safety reasons in dueling? I was under the impression actual rapiers were quite firm but I could be wrong
"Stab at me bro"
"The memes are hard on this one"
I love you
I need to know: Richard, where did you get that skull groin protector?? I want one!
0:58 "Do those pommels unscrew?" xD
I'm you watcher from Russia and I like you videos so much, because there are very interesting. you're cool! 👏👏👏
Is Richard Marsden using the spanish fencing verdadera destreza? The left guy is using the french style, but Marsden is using a mix between spanish and french style I think. Regards from Seville, Spain.
Thanks for the upload Skal! I love seeing Lee and Richard spar, it's always interesting.
This was a really nice and awesome video! IT would be awesome to see some more short sparing videos!
I always find thrust-centric vs thrust-centric weapon sparring to be dull. It's got the cool chess-like quality of vying for the centreline and such, but it just never has as much in the way of cool looking exchanges as cut and thrust.
heresjonny666 The rapier is a cut and thrust weapon; these two are simply using a style that is more focused around thrusting, unfortunately. The more you know, right?
Guacamole Nigga Penis I never said it wasn’t, Guacamole Nigga Penis. But the fact that there’s also entire manuals written on how to cut with a rapier shouldn’t be overlooked. OP said that cut and thrust looks cooler, and I simply pointed out that rapier is a cut and thrust weapon.
Sparring is just so fun and it’s cool to watch
Why did YT suddenly recommend this to me? Granted, I don't remember seeing it 2 years ago! Not complaining.
This video had such pleasant music, thanks Skall
The classical music makes it seem like such a civilized and dignified thing. ;D
I know this is off topic, but a question has occurred multiple times on whether or not fencing can train you to defend yourself in real life that I've decided to answer for anyone curious. The short answer is yes. Even though you will likely not have a sword on you in the street, it does improve multiple functions in the brain relating to combat. It teaches your brain patience, timing, and improves your physical agility along with improved fitness. All things that improve self defense as compared to someone who doesn't train at all and just watches TV. So it is a fun art to practice, that can also help train your brain for real self defense scenarios. Not to mention, you can buy a real sword in many countries that you can keep as home defense. If it it's self defense specifically you're looking for, I'd look elsewhere though. But fencing is a very fun and safe combat sport.
Fencers (HEMA, at least) also train in grappling. And any type of grappling is applicable to self defense.
I noticed that red socks was quite impatient for the field and was almost always the one making the attack, and usually getting hit as a result. combined with white shin guards generally not pressing the attack and just moving backwards for an opening to strike. Would be curious to see how white initiates an attack, if ever. in any case, fun duel guys!
God I love this stuff so much. I really want to get into HEMA or fencing I just have no idea where to even begin to look.
Search up the HEMA club finder from the Hema Alliance. If you're in Europe or East Coast USA they are everywhere. West coast USA has some whilest most other regions/ countries dont have many but there are some
dat music in the Background :D Nice pick skall. Greets from one german viewer :D
most of the fights realy are decided with one good hit.
Yaaaay! I've been waiting for more!
0:35 T-pose to show dominance
Starting Hema rapier practice's next week for the first time.. Really looking forward to it.
Such an elegant way of swirdfighting.
The background chamber music makes this.
Great video Skall! Lee and Richard are a delight to behold. Nice music to set it to as well. It brought to mind Conner MacLeod getting repeatedly run through while drunk. lol
Whenever I see exhibitions like this I marvel at the skill, but I find myself always wondering how much different it would appear if both were actually trying to kill the other instead of score points.
I love the music in the background but that would have been the second last thing I would have expected from you.
The first one was your collaboration with Lloyd.
Those outfits look insanely comfortable.
"Stab at me bro" that had my sides hurting. Lol!
0:36 when two bards engage in combat.
Man, Rapiers are so cool. I find trusting weapons to be particularly interesting, especially ones as flexible as Rapiers.
Rapiers historically weren’t as flexible as shown here.
People with long arm: don't mind if I do.
"Do those pommels unscrew?"
I laughed incredibly hard at that, lol.
really not as thrilling as the saber sparring
I'd recommend that you check out Ton Puey then, his rapier fencing is wonderful to look at, he uses spanish fencing and his footwork looks like dancing
They should use real rapiers and less protections, so we can see the blood dripping as they dance during the fencing.
mate
Hooooray!!! Marsden returns!!!!
Shows how hard is to fight a Rapier. Even using one yourself it's still hard. The opponent can win by being passive & finding a mistake in your attack execution easily.
It’s more like having two skilled opponents who know how to fight, so they don’t risk giving an opening until they see one themselves. They don’t want to be punished for attacking too early.
There was a lot of swords hanging in the background. I hope you got their permission to film them.
Rapier sword fights appear to be more about who gets the right idea first rather then parrying and counter attacking
skal: "Do those pommels unscrew?"
other guy, super quiet: "I actually think they do"
I would love to see these two duel like this, with more variants of swords :D, it's great. The last time it was sabers. Or was it scimitars? Anyway, it's cool to see, and I´d like to see more like it!
0:34
Okay, who's been playing too much Dark Souls?
I really hate the Idea of Rapiers, I just have a phobia for very thin swords
They aren't thin, they're narrow but actually quite thick
+wojtekimbier I mean, the normal rapiers, not the practice ones shown in the video
You must hate Arya's Needle.
S2MH Hahhahahaha lmao you got me, Im a huge fan of game of thrones and I kind of dislike Needle, How did you know?
Napoleon I didn't, I just took a stab in the dark ;)
3:17 Thats some Sword of the Stranger shit right there
what happened to your montante sparring vid dude? can't find it anywhere.
I feel like rapier duels are all about who had more control over their opponent, and how to counter the moves that would give control. While on the sword side of the spectrum the whole duel is over strategy and position. Correct me if I'm wrong I'm fairly new to this stuff
Introducing discount version of the sword fight in the princess bride... just joking, I know this here is more accurate
Earthbender (left) vs Firebender (right).
I just can't get over how unlike movie sword fighting this is. Nothing like Game of Thrones...
this might sound weird but they look exactly like prey mantis's fighting
This is what sportsmanship looks like
"Do those pommels unscrew?" Oh I love you Skal
Seeing this makes me miss my old fencing classes (even if my instructor was a complete ass).
Who'd of thought the "Well, what is it?" gesture made its way here at 0:35.
Seems like parrying is comparatively ineffective with rapiers (since they are so light, the opponent instantly brings the weapon back) - it's more about evading attacks.
I see you remember my comment, sparring with the left hand as well
Skall! I just wanted to let you know that you have your own skyrim mod. It has six of your swords and it's really cool - Look up skyrim nexus and it should be one of the most popular
Skall yet another meme has risen in your name
Hey Skall! Do you think you would make a video of your thoughts concerning your the whole "ban the Ar-15" thing going around lately? I'd love to see it.