@imohbalu look at the manual but IIRC: 1) download latest firmware from the haute 42 website ➡️after installing firmware update 2) disconnect the controller, open your browser and type 192.168.7.1 3) configuration ➡️pin mapping Then set it to either pin 18 or 19
Just as a general note, you've quickly proven yourself to be a valuable voice in the FGC comm, so feel free to keep throwing reviews on here! You make em, I'll watch em!
Wow, thank you so much!!!! I’ve been working so hard to make the best videos I can. So kind of you to take the time to write this comment🥹 Thanks for the motivation
@@Chris_F And despite all that, i neglected to say thank you for all of your content! Would you happen to be an educator? If so, it shows. If not... well, you kinda still are.
Thanks bro! This was my first attempt at a video that wasn’t a guide and tbh I lost a lot of sleep over this one. You keep up the great work too! Btw, just out of curiosity, why don’t you have plans to play leverless?
@@Chris_F Definitely a good style for reviews. I jumped onto the Hitbox craze back during covid and cramped up my fingers so bad I had to wear a cast at night to fix them. Couldn't compete for like half a year. I think I held the buttons down too hard. I remember discovering Sajam b/c he was someone popular in the FGC who had a similar issue
Whoa!!!! Dude I’m a HUGE fan of you! This was my first review video and your channel taught me everything I know to make this review! And yes, they’re killing it
Thx for the test. 😊 I have this controller for about 3 weeks now and it's definitely a great one. I was searching a controller about the size of a Razer Kitsune and the Haute 42 T16 have pretty much the same size for a much cheaper price but not for a more cheaper quality. It has even extra buttons. It works also perfectly well on PS5 (natively) with a mayflash key. It works on SF6, GG Strive and Tekken 8 from what I tested. Yeah it's about 20 or 30 € more for the USB key but it totally worth it. The Kitsune is 350 € here in France and the Haute 42 cost me about 100 € with the Mayflash key. It took me very few time to get used to the 30 mm buttons. I was used to the classic hitbox scheme with 24 mm buttons and 30mm for up but it was noy a problem for me at least. I highly recommend it 😀
Great review! I actually purchased the smaller version of this last week. It will be my first leverless controller! It's really nice to see some reasonably priced options.
Saw another review for this controller recently. I am jealous of anyone getting into fighting games that wants to use a leverless, because this controller is an absolute steal. I would get one of these as my first leverless
One thing to mention is that while the switches are hot swappable, Kailh Choc V2 only come in red, brown and blue versions with 50g of force. MX Style switches or even the Choc V1 switches that are used on the Snachbox provide a lot more options.
Good point! I’m not into heavy customization bc I feel like it’s a slippery slope. I am an arcade guy at heart so I can quickly adjust to anything, but I realize this isn’t true for everyone. Thanks for pointing this out!
Just ordered one for my girlfriend so we can learn Tekken 8 together. I own a Hitbox and seeing the Haute 42 with it's Size, Weight, and Build Quality as well as better Internals was a no brainer buy.
Just ordered this last night. The price point is what sold me. Haven't played fighting games in 20 years, so it's hard for me to feel happy shelling out $200 - $300 dollars for a video game controller format that's been part of the market for more than 10 years. Got super lucky with this company putting this out. I wonder if the 30ml buttons were part of getting the price down. Maybe it's cheaper to bulk order 30ml on the manufacturing end? Works for me. I got big clumsy hands anyway. I'm looking forward to seeing other companies being forced to compete with this price point. Thank you for the review. Wish I had seen it before I ordered, but I'm relieved that it does look like a pretty killer deal. Thirty percent of the standard market price is brilliant. Haute42 is gonna make waves this year with Tekken 8 joining the scene with SF6.
After configuring to the passthrough, plug the brook fgc to the usb ext on the right side, connect the usb c on the top side of the t16 directly to ps5. My 1st leverless on ps5 is all ready to go! So far I don't have any complains, I really like it.
Thank you for the review and actually giving decisive opinions instead of this milquetoast stuff I've been seeing. Seeing as how all it will take is an adapter to work with PS5 if I ever go somewhere that uses that, this seems like a no-brainer to me. I might also get the Hori fighting commander octa because it looks like a very well optimized controller.
I’m a gym bro; I don’t do milquetoast💪 I haven’t tried the Hori commander but I have had nothing but great experiences with Hori products. Let me know if you like the T16 after you try!
@@Chris_F Will do! I'll probably order it in a few days along with my "hard-wired" solution for online. What draws me in about the commander octa is how they took the standard controller design and seemed to optimize it for fighting game play, but I have a feeling once I go leverless there's no turning back haha
Oh interesting! Btw feel free to ask me questions about learning leverless. I have some guide videos but def hit me up when I’m streaming and I’ll help you
I haven't played a fighting game since Street Fighter 2 on the SNES, but got the itch to play some randomly last night. After seeing some of these reviews I picked up a Haute42 g16 today. Looking forward to it arriving and learning how to use it. Shocked at how cheap it is considering the Razer Kitsune is roughly 5x the cost. $120 vs $600 AUD is absolutely mental.
I still can’t decide if the haute is underpriced or the kitsune overpriced lol. Let me know how it is one you try it out, I’d love to hear your thoughts!
Great review, Chris. I just bought the G16 as my first leverless and am loving the challenge. I live in Japan too, but got English instructions. Maybe they weren't so confident in my Japanese. Your leverless videos are a big help, thanks.
@@Chris_F I'm in Osaka and been here for a few years now. I'm adapting to leverless more easily than the Japanese language, but I'm working on it. Thank again for the great vids!
I also got the silver M16 cuz I already have the Kitsune. For the price it puts Junkfood Arcades to shame. OLED screen, metal body, better option buttons at the top, easy firmware install and button config options, turbo button and just more buttons.
Will do. I'm still figuring out a button layout I like. I've actually been considering switching the bottom left button to jump, and assigning the "up" button parry for easier use.@@Chris_F
I bought the T13 one, which is the same one as this review with 3 fewer buttons. I went with this leverless cause of my big hands, the normal leverless are too cramped for me, and after a few hours it will start hurting my hands. The Haute42 Tseries has so much space in the acrylic that you can rest ur hand on it AND have enough space for your fingers to spread fully. I've been loving this controller, and I will eventually upgrade to the M-series, which has even better features and better material quality while having the same layout.
To anyone hesitant to learn hitbox after recently learning stick, its worth it. I got to Shinryu in T8 on stick and switched to lever. After a couple days I a have surpassed my execution abilities with the Haute42 T13 and actually even ranked up to Tenryu
It may have been mentioned in the comments already, but the USB passthrough on the side can be used in concert with the PS Passthrough settings in the firmware to slot in a MagicBoots PS4 v1.1 dongle. This will give the unit compatibility with the PS5 and get around the 8 minute timeout issues.
@@Chris_F According to the GP2040-CE FAQ, "Any USB device that works as a categorized PS4 controller (arcade stick/racing wheel/flight sim joystick) or a USB dongle that allows a controller to authenticate should work with PS Passthrough". That's the firmware Haute uses as the basis for their stuff, so it would follow if the RAP works on a PS4 and Hori has verified the same stick works on the PS5 then it should work as a passthrough device.
Thank you for this review. I really wanted a Mpress V2 but just couldn’t afford the price for one at the moment. This would be my first hit box so I figure I’d start with one of these first to use when I play capcom vs snk 2. Thank you 🙏
Honestly I think the prices for a lot of these controllers, from pads sticks and leverless, have gotten out of hand. Even a ps5 controller is 70 USD now and they aren’t even good! It’s about time a high quality, reasonably priced option is available.
Just got this and I have to say I'm surprised at how nice it is for the price. I had a "FightBox," but I really wanted extra buttons and it's so much better. More buttons needs to be the standard; I can't imagine dropping $400 on a razer kitsune without any extra buttons.
I got one delivered today. If this should be called "cheap hitbox" I dont know what a higher priced hitbox would feel and perform. The g16 is imo a masterpiece for that price!
This might be the final push i need to grab a haute42 as my first leverless. I've been going back and forth on the idea for about 2-3 weeks. The biggest sticking point was whether they are "cheap" controllers or actually a good controllers that are affordable.
I haven’t tried the other models but trust me when I say nothing about the T16 is cheap in terms of build. I’m very picky and for me to still be using this after my review says a lot.
i have the oportunity to try one of this, the smallest one, i thick was the S16 or something, for like 7 hours in 2 diferent days, and i think the issue with lap players aren't true at all, i didnt feels the leverless controlers slide in my lap NEVER, so ... more reassons to buy it :D, i like stick controllers, but this one is really fun (and objectively better) to play whit
Nice review! I just got one recently to try since I've been using my ROG strix scope 2 keyboard and wanted to see if it would be better. Not quite sure at the moment because I'm used to using my right hand on the numpad and having all those buttons. I'll give it a try tho.
WOW this looks so sick! the lcd screen is a sweet addition. i prefer the 30mm buttons myself since i have big hands and fat fingers Q__Q are the button caps 3D printed? i was hoping for pbt or abs caps tbh. great video, thx.
Semantics, but it's OLED. And yeah I love the screen on my Haute. I'm actually working on building my first controller and an OLED display is now a must lol
i own the t13 version of this controller and i purchased it for 48 dollars last month and to be honest its amazing for the price , i went from keyboard to the t13 and it was strange at first since keyboard keys are way smaller and closer to each other but after a few days you get adjusted . overall for the price its unreal how good it is and feels , i know people might see it as a cheap crap box from china but no it really is that good
also i used to use W to DI and spacebar to jump and i held back buying a leverless due to the fact that i am sure i wouldnt be able to play the game without a button above the 3 directional buttons to DI with so this layout is perfect for me
Thanks for the video! Will buy one here in germany. Or maybe the M16. did you compare it with the black M16? What do you think are the main differences? Do you think, you can rest the palm on both if the devices? Many thanks, again. :)
I have large hands and seeing the size of the g16 and other hitboxes, even my current RAC-J800B with 24mm face buttons was kinda off putting, so all 30mm face buttons might be nice.
The Haute42 Aliexpress store has different series of these things (sizes, body materials), different button layouts at different prices. The T16 is shockingly, one of their more expensive models. A G16, for example has the same basic layout and components but, is snackbox sized. A T13 is the same size but has less buttons. Both are cheaper with G16's costing less than $50 and G13's being even cheaper. I started off with G16 and after 2 weeks, I trusted the company enough to buy a T16. I could've gone with an M16 (metal body) but, I'm not paying $30 more just to have a fingerprint magnet body (cough, Kitsune...)
I really enjoyed this video and actually went on to purchase this! I am a little worried i might buy the wrong converter, could you give me an exact name of one so I can purchase it? The Wingman doesnt have the Sehawei listed on their compatibility list so I was a little worried
Great overview. I'm still confused about the extra buttons because another reviewer said they were linked together and you can't customize them individually. Can you map each of the bottom 2 buttons and the top one to a different keys?
Thank you! Up until the release of this video I used DI on the button button between LK and MK, and I kept parry on the top right. I’m going to experiment with some different buttons next
I bought a cheap "fightingbox" flatbox which is basically just a 12 button leverless. I regret not spending a tiny bit more on one of the haute pads. They seem to be fairly decent. They have a metal version for about $110 that seems decent. But I think my next controller is going to be one I build myself with a right handed stick. I have a left hand one and it just doesn't feel natural to me. Kinda surprises me that right handed sticks aren't more common.
There’s a fine line between cheap but good and cheap and terrible. We don’t win em all but good luck with your custom one! Def let me know when you build it bc I’d love to see the finished product!
@@Chris_F for sure. I work with a lot of tools and finding good cheap tools is so hard but when you do it feels incredible. I will definitely make a video on my controller if I make it just because there doesn't appear to be any video on this subject weirdly. Also congrats on 10k subs. I might be a little early but I subbed when it said 9.99k
i ordered the g16, so the smaller one. Had a few normal aracde fighting sticks, but could not deal with the lever design. Im a pc gamer my whole life, so this might be the right one for me.
started to play tekken fo the first time, and now looking into a leverless controller. This looks like a great option, for tekken is the 16 version needed or is the 13 key version fine
Hey, after your review I have made the purchase and I couldn’t have been better. I have one question though, maybe a bit on a silly side. I am using the movement buttons in the regular hitbox way - having my right hand thumb on the jump buttons and the left hand on the left, down, right buttons. But I am struggling a bit with the parry buton - having it on the top right feels tricky for my right pinky (under light kick I have DI) so I have been using recently the buton on the left of the jump buton - pressing it with my left hand thumb. Do you think this can cause any executions issuse in the future? I do not want to get i tinto my muscle memory and then relearn if something will not work…
I’m really glad my review was able to help you get a controller you enjoy! Thanks! I don’t see any issue with that. As long as it works for you and it doesn’t cause any have pain then I say go with what feels best!
i have the snack box micro xl and not only did my model not come with the ability to work on ps5, I prefer the haute over it by far. These other hitboxes that keep coming out are just expensive for no reason.
Just bought a Haute pro G16 which is the mini version. I had a couple concerns before buying. 1st. Would it be too small? Answer-not at all. I'm an adult male with decent size hands and it works great for me but due to the layout would also work great for smaller hands. 2. I've only ever used controllers so how long would it take to get used to it? I considered 3 months of heavy practice to be a realistic amount of time to get used to it because it's so different than what I'm used to. Turns out with 1 night of playing I was already at 80% of my normal skill level. I use the bottom jump button which I find faster to switch from crouching to jumping or for example quick flash kicks for Guile. I will say with a fair amount of certainty within 2 weeks I will be at 100%. I would never have thought this possible before but its that easy to use. I found probably a good 50% of my SF2 losses came from missed inputs at critical moments in the round. If you are sick of dealing with that, make the jump. Everything is more precise and faster.
was looking at this but the T13 to get a bigger leverless . I bought a SGF I like it but it is SMALL.. like INSANELY small. I just dont know if I should gt this or like a BNB/AFS.
Hi Chris, Are you familiar with the G16 or perhaps if not could you take a quick look at it and tell me if you think youd recommend it just like the T16? what are the cons of the G16 that you dont have on the T16
I haven’t tried that one yet but as far as I can tell it’s just a much smaller version of the T16. I imagine it would be ideal for desk play but maybe a bit too small for playing on your lap. Can’t say for sure until I try but that’s my guess
I myself have a T16, G16 and M16 so people can use them or borrow them if they're considering an all button controller and considering I've got all 3 of those for just about half the price of the Kitsune they are incredible value really
@@Mentallyuntouchable Probably the M16 personally, it's the most expensive of the bunch but I can't believe how premium it feels for that cost honestly. The G16 is probably my least favourite the buttons being regular Cherry MX switches are just a little to tall for my liking but it is still completely usable and an absolute steal at its price point.
The extra buttons really worry me. Like i want them but the spacing looks too close to me especially with the buttons being larger (idk if putting slightly smaller ones would feel bad or not with the spacing for larger ones.) On tekken i have a few characters that i very regularly have to hit 3,4 or 4,3 very quickly, and i am ao used to sliding my thumb across. I dont think i could do it without the L3 getting in the way. Also the other button next to up/jump seems... Idk maybe i shld just get better form and use individual fingers for those movements.
I actually just got that one and the smaller version of the T16 yesterday! I have a TON of videos I need to finish first but I’m hoping to have a comparison review of all 3 up within the next two weeks
@@Chris_F thanks for answering! Im really about to buy one of Haute42 controllers, and I'm into the alluminum case more than the crystal acrylic ones, but I wanted to hear some opinions about it, so I'll definitely be paying attention to your upcoming vids 😎👍
How do you set the parry and DI buttons anywhere? I would like to make another button a parry, while still leaving R2 parry, similar to the double jump buttons. Is this possible?
ok so i own a mayflash f500 and that doesnt have native ps4/5 support, instead needing to plug a controller in to use it on console, would the same work for the haute or would i need a brooke?
Damn it , you made realized I should went for this instead of the t13 (the hitbox layout with a extra mixbox up button ). I just cared about the portability/ playing on a desk and didn't think about I need the extra buttons 😅
How big is the risk for missinputs? I have a standard hitbox layout controller and I would worry to accidentally hit the key that sits below the a button (I often restmy thumb on A and use that for Kara inputs).
@@Chris_F Ah nice, well.. I just ordered one and it will arrive tomorrow :) Now I need to find some artwork and I plan on going all black or white, not transparent, with the buttons (wonder where to get them.. do you know it by chance?)
Hard to say without seeing your settings. Make sure you have the latest firmware installed and that you are set to PS5 mode in your controller settings
I’ve never played smash so I can’t really answer that question. I’m sure you CAN but I don’t know if it’s good for that game or not. It’s amazing for street fighter and Tekken IMO
Bought it, and not a big fan. To me the biggest two problems are: The start and back button are way too small, too close and easily mis-clicked. I am not sure if the designer actually plays any modern fighting games, because the back button is the most important button in training mode in resetting positions. This alone makes it unusable. The second is that the hitbox itself is too small. I used to play hitbox on my lap. With this tiny one, it is impossible. The upside is the buttons are much better. It has more weight that the ones on hitbox arcade, but not too much that it feels like a keyboard. The overall build quality is also superb. Also, you can configure it to play other games just like a Xbox controller. So it is easier to carry around and play other games compare to a full sized hitbox.
For fighting games, I agree on the default back button being too close so I mapped one of the extra buttons as an additional back button. I also have one of these slim leverless controllers and I found it uncomfortable for lap play because it was too low. I found that if I raised the controller by placing it on a box, it was fine.
Surprised you felt that way bc I actually really love the top buttons on this. Everyone is different though so that’s ok! I usually set restart to the far right buttons in street fighter 6 shortcut command though
The non-slip pads that it comes with are good for people who play on their desk, but not so much for lap players. Just in case I wasn't clear.
Just ordered this for Tekken 8 yesterday, Thanks Chris!! :)
Let me know how it goes!!
hi what is the website name if i want to switch the extra buttons to do something else like drive parry or drive rush
@imohbalu look at the manual but IIRC:
1) download latest firmware from the haute 42 website
➡️after installing firmware update
2) disconnect the controller, open your browser and type 192.168.7.1
3) configuration ➡️pin mapping
Then set it to either pin 18 or 19
What your advice for lap player?Any recommendations so that t16 can be played comfortably on lap
Just as a general note, you've quickly proven yourself to be a valuable voice in the FGC comm, so feel free to keep throwing reviews on here! You make em, I'll watch em!
Wow, thank you so much!!!! I’ve been working so hard to make the best videos I can. So kind of you to take the time to write this comment🥹 Thanks for the motivation
@@Chris_F And despite all that, i neglected to say thank you for all of your content!
Would you happen to be an educator? If so, it shows. If not... well, you kinda still are.
No worries my man!
I’m a personal trainer so yes
I have zero plans to ever play on a leverless controller but just came by to say this is a really well done review. Very impressive
Thanks bro! This was my first attempt at a video that wasn’t a guide and tbh I lost a lot of sleep over this one. You keep up the great work too!
Btw, just out of curiosity, why don’t you have plans to play leverless?
@@Chris_F Definitely a good style for reviews. I jumped onto the Hitbox craze back during covid and cramped up my fingers so bad I had to wear a cast at night to fix them. Couldn't compete for like half a year. I think I held the buttons down too hard. I remember discovering Sajam b/c he was someone popular in the FGC who had a similar issue
I didn't until my hands started playing up. Or rather my thumbs.
Get yourself a leverless.
Very nice and thorough review! Haute42 is making some super solid, pound for pound controllers. Great job, Chris!
Whoa!!!! Dude I’m a HUGE fan of you! This was my first review video and your channel taught me everything I know to make this review!
And yes, they’re killing it
Thx for the test. 😊 I have this controller for about 3 weeks now and it's definitely a great one. I was searching a controller about the size of a Razer Kitsune and the Haute 42 T16 have pretty much the same size for a much cheaper price but not for a more cheaper quality. It has even extra buttons. It works also perfectly well on PS5 (natively) with a mayflash key. It works on SF6, GG Strive and Tekken 8 from what I tested. Yeah it's about 20 or 30 € more for the USB key but it totally worth it. The Kitsune is 350 € here in France and the Haute 42 cost me about 100 € with the Mayflash key. It took me very few time to get used to the 30 mm buttons. I was used to the classic hitbox scheme with 24 mm buttons and 30mm for up but it was noy a problem for me at least. I highly recommend it 😀
I can’t believe how inexpensive this is for what you get. It’s an amazing controller!
How do I get mine to work on ps5 tekken8
@@burrbeariiboy you need a brook or mayflash adapter
hello guys, I was wondering if i can run natively sf6 ps5 game with the mayflash MagicBoots key ?? THNX
@RebellionLamperouge I don’t own a mayflash so I can’t say 100%, but my friends have told me that it works on PS5 with a mayflash adapter
Great review! I actually purchased the smaller version of this last week. It will be my first leverless controller! It's really nice to see some reasonably priced options.
I’d love to try the smaller one too. 200% agree that more affordable options are a good thing. Thanks!!
This is a super high quality review，I can feel that your knowledge of hitbox products and GP2040-CE is very professional！！！Thanks so much 😍
Thanks for the kind words and for giving me the chance to make this review!
Oh yeah much knowledge! So much he says the passtrough is for updates and not to the real use: ps5 and Xbox adaptors.
Was curious about buying this hitbox, Saw this video, then Bought it as soon as the video ended. Thank you
Glad I could help!
My friend and I bought T16s, coming from stick this thing is so cool. Doesn't feel cheap at all, surprisingly good product
Saw another review for this controller recently. I am jealous of anyone getting into fighting games that wants to use a leverless, because this controller is an absolute steal. I would get one of these as my first leverless
I totally agree, new players have SO many options. This is the best one I’ve tried, and that’s me being 100% honest
One thing to mention is that while the switches are hot swappable, Kailh Choc V2 only come in red, brown and blue versions with 50g of force. MX Style switches or even the Choc V1 switches that are used on the Snachbox provide a lot more options.
Good point! I’m not into heavy customization bc I feel like it’s a slippery slope. I am an arcade guy at heart so I can quickly adjust to anything, but I realize this isn’t true for everyone. Thanks for pointing this out!
Great video glad hear unbiased opinions on products 👍. I have to say though light mode discord is crazy 🤯
Light mode gang rise haha
Great review christ! Music was nice and chill, editing on point, the camera work was great as well.
Thank you!! This was my first non-guide video so I stressed like crazy making this
Just ordered one for my girlfriend so we can learn Tekken 8 together. I own a Hitbox and seeing the Haute 42 with it's Size, Weight, and Build Quality as well as better Internals was a no brainer buy.
I’ve been trying to get my gf to learn leverless but no luck so far. Teach me your secrets
Just ordered this last night. The price point is what sold me. Haven't played fighting games in 20 years, so it's hard for me to feel happy shelling out $200 - $300 dollars for a video game controller format that's been part of the market for more than 10 years. Got super lucky with this company putting this out.
I wonder if the 30ml buttons were part of getting the price down. Maybe it's cheaper to bulk order 30ml on the manufacturing end? Works for me. I got big clumsy hands anyway.
I'm looking forward to seeing other companies being forced to compete with this price point. Thank you for the review. Wish I had seen it before I ordered, but I'm relieved that it does look like a pretty killer deal. Thirty percent of the standard market price is brilliant. Haute42 is gonna make waves this year with Tekken 8 joining the scene with SF6.
100% agree
Great review, Chris. This thing is on my radar now.
Thanks for the kind words! I think it’s just great overall
After configuring to the passthrough, plug the brook fgc to the usb ext on the right side, connect the usb c on the top side of the t16 directly to ps5. My 1st leverless on ps5 is all ready to go! So far I don't have any complains, I really like it.
Thanks for the info!
This is your year bro. Sending you 50k sub vibes for 2024. I already told all my fg friends to follow your channel.
WOW! Thank you so much! It has been a lot of work but I’ve been loving every second of it! Sending nothing but good vibes your way my brother
Thank you for the review and actually giving decisive opinions instead of this milquetoast stuff I've been seeing. Seeing as how all it will take is an adapter to work with PS5 if I ever go somewhere that uses that, this seems like a no-brainer to me. I might also get the Hori fighting commander octa because it looks like a very well optimized controller.
I’m a gym bro; I don’t do milquetoast💪
I haven’t tried the Hori commander but I have had nothing but great experiences with Hori products. Let me know if you like the T16 after you try!
@@Chris_F Will do! I'll probably order it in a few days along with my "hard-wired" solution for online.
What draws me in about the commander octa is how they took the standard controller design and seemed to optimize it for fighting game play, but I have a feeling once I go leverless there's no turning back haha
Oh interesting!
Btw feel free to ask me questions about learning leverless. I have some guide videos but def hit me up when I’m streaming and I’ll help you
I haven't played a fighting game since Street Fighter 2 on the SNES, but got the itch to play some randomly last night. After seeing some of these reviews I picked up a Haute42 g16 today. Looking forward to it arriving and learning how to use it. Shocked at how cheap it is considering the Razer Kitsune is roughly 5x the cost. $120 vs $600 AUD is absolutely mental.
I still can’t decide if the haute is underpriced or the kitsune overpriced lol. Let me know how it is one you try it out, I’d love to hear your thoughts!
Great review, Chris.
I just bought the G16 as my first leverless and am loving the challenge. I live in Japan too, but got English instructions. Maybe they weren't so confident in my Japanese.
Your leverless videos are a big help, thanks.
Awesome and thanks!!
What part of Japan are you in and how long have you been here? I love getting to know the international community here
@@Chris_F I'm in Osaka and been here for a few years now. I'm adapting to leverless more easily than the Japanese language, but I'm working on it. Thank again for the great vids!
@garywintle oh wow I’m in Osaka too!!
@@Chris_F Oh, cool! I'll keep up on your channel and maybe we'll bump into eachother in Namba one day.
@garywintle or evo Japan! I’m in namba frequently as I’m just a 15 min train ride away. Say hi if you see me!
I just got the M16 version. Feels very premium. I'm amazed at the quality for the price and shipping was actually pretty quick from China to Canada
I was surprised too! Think they nailed it with this one
I also got the silver M16 cuz I already have the Kitsune. For the price it puts Junkfood Arcades to shame. OLED screen, metal body, better option buttons at the top, easy firmware install and button config options, turbo button and just more buttons.
I just got the S16. I'm very impressed with it. Already putting together some art.
Congrats! I’d love to see the art when it’s done! Message me on twitter
Will do. I'm still figuring out a button layout I like. I've actually been considering switching the bottom left button to jump, and assigning the "up" button parry for easier use.@@Chris_F
Awesome review! Mine just came in! Rushing to the mailbox as I type
Let me know what you think of it!!
Haute aside just wanted to comment that I love the clean, structured and fluffless reviews.
Thank you! I always try to keep my videos only as long as I think they need to be
Got my T13 last week, It's pretty good. I like it better than my fightbox which is the $120 hitbox knockoff. Definitely like key switches over buttons
I’m a big fan of the key switches too!
I bought the T13 one, which is the same one as this review with 3 fewer buttons. I went with this leverless cause of my big hands, the normal leverless are too cramped for me, and after a few hours it will start hurting my hands. The Haute42 Tseries has so much space in the acrylic that you can rest ur hand on it AND have enough space for your fingers to spread fully. I've been loving this controller, and I will eventually upgrade to the M-series, which has even better features and better material quality while having the same layout.
So glad you like it!
Literally ordered this one today, to see if I like it. Switched from pad to stick in 2017.
Let me know what you think after you’ve tried it
@Chris_F Gave it a little test drive just now. Seems pretty nice so far 👍
Learning P2 side DP will probably take me a while though ^^
To anyone hesitant to learn hitbox after recently learning stick, its worth it. I got to Shinryu in T8 on stick and switched to lever. After a couple days I a have surpassed my execution abilities with the Haute42 T13 and actually even ranked up to Tenryu
Glad to see another leverless bro!
It may have been mentioned in the comments already, but the USB passthrough on the side can be used in concert with the PS Passthrough settings in the firmware to slot in a MagicBoots PS4 v1.1 dongle. This will give the unit compatibility with the PS5 and get around the 8 minute timeout issues.
Thx for adding this!
Would a Hori RAP PS4 controller work too? I don’t own a ps5 so I can’t test myswlf
@@Chris_F According to the GP2040-CE FAQ, "Any USB device that works as a categorized PS4 controller (arcade stick/racing wheel/flight sim joystick) or a USB dongle that allows a controller to authenticate should work with PS Passthrough". That's the firmware Haute uses as the basis for their stuff, so it would follow if the RAP works on a PS4 and Hori has verified the same stick works on the PS5 then it should work as a passthrough device.
Thank you! nice Video!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this review. I really wanted a Mpress V2 but just couldn’t afford the price for one at the moment. This would be my first hit box so I figure I’d start with one of these first to use when I play capcom vs snk 2. Thank you 🙏
Honestly I think the prices for a lot of these controllers, from pads sticks and leverless, have gotten out of hand. Even a ps5 controller is 70 USD now and they aren’t even good! It’s about time a high quality, reasonably priced option is available.
Just got this and I have to say I'm surprised at how nice it is for the price. I had a "FightBox," but I really wanted extra buttons and it's so much better. More buttons needs to be the standard; I can't imagine dropping $400 on a razer kitsune without any extra buttons.
Right?! I think this could cause a shift in the leverless controller market
Nice video dude, i will buy this one as my first leverless lets see how it goes!
I really hope you enjoy it! I’m always here to answer questions, especially when I stream. Let me know how it goes and thx for watching!!
I got one delivered today. If this should be called "cheap hitbox" I dont know what a higher priced hitbox would feel and perform. The g16 is imo a masterpiece for that price!
Best balance between quality and price IMO
This might be the final push i need to grab a haute42 as my first leverless. I've been going back and forth on the idea for about 2-3 weeks. The biggest sticking point was whether they are "cheap" controllers or actually a good controllers that are affordable.
I haven’t tried the other models but trust me when I say nothing about the T16 is cheap in terms of build. I’m very picky and for me to still be using this after my review says a lot.
i have the oportunity to try one of this, the smallest one, i thick was the S16 or something, for like 7 hours in 2 diferent days, and i think the issue with lap players aren't true at all, i didnt feels the leverless controlers slide in my lap NEVER, so ... more reassons to buy it :D, i like stick controllers, but this one is really fun (and objectively better) to play whit
Glad you had no issues!
Nice review! I just got one recently to try since I've been using my ROG strix scope 2 keyboard and wanted to see if it would be better. Not quite sure at the moment because I'm used to using my right hand on the numpad and having all those buttons. I'll give it a try tho.
Thanks!
It took me about a month of practice to feel comfortable on my first hitbox so don’t stress and def don’t give up!
I believe the may flash magicboots dongle will allow you to use it on ps5 it’s currently $31
Thanks!!
WOW this looks so sick! the lcd screen is a sweet addition. i prefer the 30mm buttons myself since i have big hands and fat fingers Q__Q are the button caps 3D printed? i was hoping for pbt or abs caps tbh. great video, thx.
Afaik they are not 3D printed. You can replace the caps with any cap that has a + attachment if you don’t like the stock ones
Semantics, but it's OLED. And yeah I love the screen on my Haute. I'm actually working on building my first controller and an OLED display is now a must lol
i own the t13 version of this controller and i purchased it for 48 dollars last month and to be honest its amazing for the price , i went from keyboard to the t13 and it was strange at first since keyboard keys are way smaller and closer to each other but after a few days you get adjusted . overall for the price its unreal how good it is and feels , i know people might see it as a cheap crap box from china but no it really is that good
also i used to use W to DI and spacebar to jump and i held back buying a leverless due to the fact that i am sure i wouldnt be able to play the game without a button above the 3 directional buttons to DI with so this layout is perfect for me
This controller just blew me away overall. I can’t tell if it’s underpriced or the competition is overpriced.
@@killer809829ok that's reassuring me . I thought I couldn't use that up button for DI.
I’d love to see them make this exact board with 24mm switches and the 30mm jump button
Me too!
Thanks for the video! Will buy one here in germany. Or maybe the M16.
did you compare it with the black M16? What do you think are the main differences? Do you think, you can rest the palm on both if the devices?
Many thanks, again. :)
I’m uploading an M16Plus review today, so please wait a little bit longer before you buy!
@@Chris_F thanks a lot. I'll wait. :)
Awesome review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have large hands and seeing the size of the g16 and other hitboxes, even my current RAC-J800B with 24mm face buttons was kinda off putting, so all 30mm face buttons might be nice.
I think the T16 will definitely fit your hand size
The Haute42 Aliexpress store has different series of these things (sizes, body materials), different button layouts at different prices.
The T16 is shockingly, one of their more expensive models. A G16, for example has the same basic layout and components but, is snackbox sized. A T13 is the same size but has less buttons. Both are cheaper with G16's costing less than $50 and G13's being even cheaper.
I started off with G16 and after 2 weeks, I trusted the company enough to buy a T16. I could've gone with an M16 (metal body) but, I'm not paying $30 more just to have a fingerprint magnet body (cough, Kitsune...)
I have the S16, T16 and M16 now. After trying them all, the T16 is my favorite because of size and quality.
@@Chris_F I should've started with the slightly larger S series but, now that I own a T16, it's really nice having the tiny G16 for travel.
Is there a general consensus on where to put DI and parry yet? Also do people use the parry button for mid combo DR or just hit mp,mk buttons?
Looks really cool! They should strip that LCD out to cut costs even more. I've got no need for it haha. I may get one of these soon!
I don’t know how much it costs to include it but honestly I think it’s already a good price as is
@@Chris_F yeah it's still great value. I'm just a huge cheapskate 😋
I really enjoyed this video and actually went on to purchase this! I am a little worried i might buy the wrong converter, could you give me an exact name of one so I can purchase it? The Wingman doesnt have the Sehawei listed on their compatibility list so I was a little worried
So glad I was able to help!
My apologies I live in Japan so the box art might be different but here’s the one you need:
amzn.asia/d/1WiobHE
@@Chris_F thank you so much! ❤️
I just bought this as a stick player transitioning to leverless who plays Guilty Gear Xrd and +R. Wish me luck. I hope this works out.
I hope so too! Let me know if you have any questions
Informative review, cheers! Any thoughts on the Haute vs a Flatbox アーケード (Arcade) or Kitsune? Flatbox is around the same price, Kitsune about 5x more.
Unfortunately I haven’t tried the flat box so I can’t say. This feels similar in layout to the kitsune
Hopefully less susceptible to random water drops than your stick. 😀💧
I fixed it! I was so upset
Great overview. I'm still confused about the extra buttons because another reviewer said they were linked together and you can't customize them individually. Can you map each of the bottom 2 buttons and the top one to a different keys?
You can 100% remap the buttons and the official discord even has pinned posts that show how to do it
Great review! Which buttons did you set for DI and parry?
Thank you!
Up until the release of this video I used DI on the button button between LK and MK, and I kept parry on the top right. I’m going to experiment with some different buttons next
nice review Chris
Glad you enjoyed it!!
I bought a cheap "fightingbox" flatbox which is basically just a 12 button leverless. I regret not spending a tiny bit more on one of the haute pads. They seem to be fairly decent. They have a metal version for about $110 that seems decent. But I think my next controller is going to be one I build myself with a right handed stick. I have a left hand one and it just doesn't feel natural to me. Kinda surprises me that right handed sticks aren't more common.
There’s a fine line between cheap but good and cheap and terrible. We don’t win em all but good luck with your custom one! Def let me know when you build it bc I’d love to see the finished product!
@@Chris_F for sure. I work with a lot of tools and finding good cheap tools is so hard but when you do it feels incredible. I will definitely make a video on my controller if I make it just because there doesn't appear to be any video on this subject weirdly. Also congrats on 10k subs. I might be a little early but I subbed when it said 9.99k
@x9x9x9x9x9 thank you so much! RUclips comments are so easy to miss so send me a DM on Twitter so I can see your work
i ordered the g16, so the smaller one. Had a few normal aracde fighting sticks, but could not deal with the lever design. Im a pc gamer my whole life, so this might be the right one for me.
I’m really happy that my review helped you buy one! Let me know what you think once you get it
started to play tekken fo the first time, and now looking into a leverless controller. This looks like a great option, for tekken is the 16 version needed or is the 13 key version fine
Def get the 16 button version
Hey, after your review I have made the purchase and I couldn’t have been better. I have one question though, maybe a bit on a silly side. I am using the movement buttons in the regular hitbox way - having my right hand thumb on the jump buttons and the left hand on the left, down, right buttons. But I am struggling a bit with the parry buton - having it on the top right feels tricky for my right pinky (under light kick I have DI) so I have been using recently the buton on the left of the jump buton - pressing it with my left hand thumb. Do you think this can cause any executions issuse in the future? I do not want to get i tinto my muscle memory and then relearn if something will not work…
I’m really glad my review was able to help you get a controller you enjoy! Thanks!
I don’t see any issue with that. As long as it works for you and it doesn’t cause any have pain then I say go with what feels best!
Btw there is ps5 support for this controller, you can update the mb to the newest version which supports ps5
I could be wrong but I think it only supports ps5 settings on PC. You still need an adapter for tournaments on ps5
i have the snack box micro xl and not only did my model not come with the ability to work on ps5, I prefer the haute over it by far. These other hitboxes that keep coming out are just expensive for no reason.
I think this Haute 42 is really a game changer. It does everything right for me
Just bought a Haute pro G16 which is the mini version. I had a couple concerns before buying.
1st. Would it be too small? Answer-not at all. I'm an adult male with decent size hands and it works great for me but due to the layout would also work great for smaller hands.
2. I've only ever used controllers so how long would it take to get used to it? I considered 3 months of heavy practice to be a realistic amount of time to get used to it because it's so different than what I'm used to. Turns out with 1 night of playing I was already at 80% of my normal skill level. I use the bottom jump button which I find faster to switch from crouching to jumping or for example quick flash kicks for Guile. I will say with a fair amount of certainty within 2 weeks I will be at 100%. I would never have thought this possible before but its that easy to use.
I found probably a good 50% of my SF2 losses came from missed inputs at critical moments in the round. If you are sick of dealing with that, make the jump. Everything is more precise and faster.
Thanks for writing down your thoughts! I think this is a fantastic controller and I’m happy others are noticing too
was looking at this but the T13 to get a bigger leverless . I bought a SGF I like it but it is SMALL.. like INSANELY small. I just dont know if I should gt this or like a BNB/AFS.
Hi Chris, Are you familiar with the G16 or perhaps if not could you take a quick look at it and tell me if you think youd recommend it just like the T16? what are the cons of the G16 that you dont have on the T16
I haven’t tried that one yet but as far as I can tell it’s just a much smaller version of the T16. I imagine it would be ideal for desk play but maybe a bit too small for playing on your lap. Can’t say for sure until I try but that’s my guess
I myself have a T16, G16 and M16 so people can use them or borrow them if they're considering an all button controller and considering I've got all 3 of those for just about half the price of the Kitsune they are incredible value really
The value for quality is outstanding
Which one is your fav
@@Mentallyuntouchable Probably the M16 personally, it's the most expensive of the bunch but I can't believe how premium it feels for that cost honestly. The G16 is probably my least favourite the buttons being regular Cherry MX switches are just a little to tall for my liking but it is still completely usable and an absolute steal at its price point.
Love the black sleeves set to Switch mode. XD
I’m sorry what do you mean?
I think this is a direct competitor to the Paradise Arcade Mpress with the similar all 30mm buttons
That and the razer kitsune!
The extra buttons really worry me.
Like i want them but the spacing looks too close to me especially with the buttons being larger (idk if putting slightly smaller ones would feel bad or not with the spacing for larger ones.)
On tekken i have a few characters that i very regularly have to hit 3,4 or 4,3 very quickly, and i am ao used to sliding my thumb across. I dont think i could do it without the L3 getting in the way. Also the other button next to up/jump seems...
Idk maybe i shld just get better form and use individual fingers for those movements.
If you’re worried, you can always just disable the buttons in the controller settings!
Hey Chris would recommend this leverless controller for tekken 8 cause I want to use a different leverless controller other than my hitbox
Def recommend, it’s what I’m using for Tekken 8
Is there any chance you could get the aluminum one and do a review about that one too?
I actually just got that one and the smaller version of the T16 yesterday! I have a TON of videos I need to finish first but I’m hoping to have a comparison review of all 3 up within the next two weeks
@@Chris_F thanks for answering! Im really about to buy one of Haute42 controllers, and I'm into the alluminum case more than the crystal acrylic ones, but I wanted to hear some opinions about it, so I'll definitely be paying attention to your upcoming vids 😎👍
@josetojoestar7533 if you can’t wait for my review feel free to dm me on Twitter
How do you set the parry and DI buttons anywhere?
I would like to make another button a parry, while still leaving R2 parry, similar to the double jump buttons. Is this possible?
You can customize any button settings through the web configuration. I haven’t done it myself but it’s definitely possible
ok so i own a mayflash f500 and that doesnt have native ps4/5 support, instead needing to plug a controller in to use it on console, would the same work for the haute or would i need a brooke?
I’ve never used mayflash. I know for a fact that Brooke works 100% since I just competed at evo japan with ZERO issues.
Damn it , you made realized I should went for this instead of the t13 (the hitbox layout with a extra mixbox up button ).
I just cared about the portability/ playing on a desk and didn't think about I need the extra buttons 😅
I’d like to try that one out too!
I got one and I love it.
What’s your main game?
How big is the risk for missinputs? I have a standard hitbox layout controller and I would worry to accidentally hit the key that sits below the a button (I often restmy thumb on A and use that for Kara inputs).
You can always disable the extra buttons if you’re worried so there’s really no downside to having them!
@@Chris_F Ah nice, well.. I just ordered one and it will arrive tomorrow :) Now I need to find some artwork and I plan on going all black or white, not transparent, with the buttons (wonder where to get them.. do you know it by chance?)
I love the size of this controller, but the 30mm buttons are bothering me. Now I'm having a just having an internal war between buying the G or S
I got used to the 30mm size within 30 minutes, it’s not a big deal
you know whats funny this came out first before the razor stick i got 2 months ago before the razor stick came out lol thats the funny bit
Sorry I don’t get it, not being facetious
USB A port is for USB passthorugh for xbox one series x s and ps 5 with mayflash fps ps 5 or mayflash magic x for xbox one and series x
i cant seem to switch the input mode to ps4 even with it connected directly into the console. Anyone have the same problem or know a solution?
Check the manual included in the box of your controller, it says how to set it up there
The regular USB port is USB-A not USB-B.
USB-B is the blocky one often used with printers.
Sorry I just realized now I misspoke 😭
I heard this controller may not be CPT (street fighter 6) legal. Due to the number of buttons.
Is that true?
Looking to buy
I believe that it is legal, many pros have multiple buttons. Check out Daigo’s stick, it’s pretty wild
A litle question… All the buttons alredy works with wingman Fgc?
It should!
metal one is so good they mimic razer kitsune with low budget " Haute42 M16 Black "
Def want to try that one
I’m on ps5 but will I need a pc for updates or setting configuration for the stick or the brook converter?
You *might* be able to do it through your ps5 web browser but I’m not sure bc I don’t own a ps5
I am trying to buy replacement switches and buttons for this. Any sites to buy these or are they all on aliexpress
Do you mean the keycaps or the key switches?
mine just arrived, and the glasses/artwork is so blurry on both front and back is that the case for you too?
Mmmmm it’s a little bit of a matte finish but nothing crazy. If you’d like send me a pic in twitter DM and I’ll look
got g16 and it is a sweet piece of gear
I want to try that too!
I bought the t13 version with brook converter but nothing is happening is there anything that im missing here?
Hard to say without seeing your settings.
Make sure you have the latest firmware installed and that you are set to PS5 mode in your controller settings
Thanks Chris will double check everything 👍 keep up the good content
Question, do you think the 30mm vs 24mm makes a big difference?
Tbh not really. It’s just personal preference
Where can i find the specs to add artwork to the control?
On the Haute42 official discord
All buttons are 30 mil? That's a lot of real estate to move your fingers in. How does it play with such big buttons? Nice video btw.
Yes they are all 30mm but I think they feel great!
@@Chris_F good to know thx!
Can I play games like super smash brothers as well as street fighter, or just street fighter. I’m still gonna buy it either way
I’ve never played smash so I can’t really answer that question. I’m sure you CAN but I don’t know if it’s good for that game or not.
It’s amazing for street fighter and Tekken IMO
@@Chris_FThanks!
dear Chris! do you recommand T16 for Cammy players?
Yes I do!
@@Chris_F I hope it to help my dive kicks and other plays easier i orded!!
Aye what's that carry case you have for the hitbox
Just a padded A4 sized foam carrying case I bought at my local dollar store in Japan
Is it only worth to buy for Street fighter games or also for Tekken 8?
Also for Tekken! Tekken is amazing on leverless
Can you lift the top layer to put a picture underneath?
Yes
Bought it, and not a big fan. To me the biggest two problems are:
The start and back button are way too small, too close and easily mis-clicked. I am not sure if the designer actually plays any modern fighting games, because the back button is the most important button in training mode in resetting positions. This alone makes it unusable.
The second is that the hitbox itself is too small. I used to play hitbox on my lap. With this tiny one, it is impossible.
The upside is the buttons are much better. It has more weight that the ones on hitbox arcade, but not too much that it feels like a keyboard. The overall build quality is also superb. Also, you can configure it to play other games just like a Xbox controller. So it is easier to carry around and play other games compare to a full sized hitbox.
For fighting games, I agree on the default back button being too close so I mapped one of the extra buttons as an additional back button.
I also have one of these slim leverless controllers and I found it uncomfortable for lap play because it was too low. I found that if I raised the controller by placing it on a box, it was fine.
Surprised you felt that way bc I actually really love the top buttons on this. Everyone is different though so that’s ok! I usually set restart to the far right buttons in street fighter 6 shortcut command though
Can u change/modificate buttons in this hitbox ?
Yes, but you need to use low profile key switches
Any tips on learning japanese ? i've been learning for about a year now
Spend more time speaking and less time in a textbook!
Extra buttons does not light up for me? can help??
Contact support on their official discord
Большое спасибо за обзор! Было очень интересно.