I'm an engineer working on the RAM EV. The outsourcing of engineering to India, Brazil, and Mexico has absolutely KILLED the development of the BEV, BEV XL, and gas generator variants. Expect delays and lots of technical issues after launch. Not sure who his source is, but I'll just say this... this guy is very well-informed.
We constantly deal with terrible quality electronic parts at our automotive repair shop, I can't imagine trying to engineer something with junk parts and a 3 cent budget.
@sleeeper88 This. Don't know how many times we've gone to management with solutions to improve design and product robustness just to be told "Can't do it. We don't have the budget, so make it work".
they dont get paid as much as North America thats why they outsourcing it, Boeing 747max which went down twice had coders from Pakistan at 5$ per hour for programming. :)
How did Ford and GM understand the math but Stellantis miss it? For every EV that gets ~100 mpg equivalent, you offset 3-5 V8 sales that get 15 mpg. So you lose $10-20k by selling a Chevy Bolt, but that allows you to sell 5 more Tahoes that you make $20-40k on each. Stellantis is too stupid to stay in business, they deserve this.
They can stand on their own.. Chrysler was the most profitable car company around in the mid 1980's to 1998 merger aka take over by the then failing Mercedes... It's amazing how a CEO can sink a highly profitable company...Every company Daimler/Mercedes..Fiat/Ferrari and now Stellantis is robbing all of Chrysler's cash! Back in 2009 Chrysler wanted to stay on their own but Obama said you must be sold to Fiat to get bailout money...Honda,BMW,Toyota,Ford all took bailout money!! Chrysler paid it back in full once again,so they can make huge profits...The pos foreign makes always screwed Chrysler and the CEO's are crooks..
Hey it’s about time for big mouth Shawn to call a strike. That’s what he has been flapping his jaws about!! This way he can speed up the loss of UAW Jobs and their exit from America.
The jobs are toast, and the production here is dying regardless of what Shawn does. Would you deny them one last scream of rage as the door slams closed?
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Brother I was still working for them earlier this year when Stellantis first started cutting the temps. While that was happening, Fain could be found down south trying to organize the imports. He had to shore up that membership. I call him Shawn "Simple Minded" Fain.
I think that CDJR is going to die. The problems with product, price, and quality will keep getting worse, eventually to a point where even if Stellantis were to offer to sell them off no group of investors would buy it because the cost of fixing all the problems would not make any fiscal sense.
@@vincentsutter1071 Nope. BYD knows that customers especially former CDJR buyers will never by EVs at any price.
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Yup. That's what happens when you have to rush to market instead of doing R and D when they first started getting pushed. Been trying to say that FCA set this up for failure. Anyways enjoy those store bought race cars while you can. 🍻 boys.
No wonder they are having issues. The model with the V6, let's discuss. The electric motor driving it uses more energy than the backup generation can make. The batteries are so small that there is no range, especially with a load. So, you hook up your boat and head to the lake - in city traffic your batteries will deplete rapidly and the engine kicks on to give you about half the power the ev motor is made to use. How much fun would climbing the grades to the mountain lake at 30 mpg?
It’s a 92ish kwhr battery right? Just set the pentastar recharge cycle to start early. The BMW I3 rex had this identical problem- it’s just math. The negative is that it becomes essentially a serial hybrid, and is much less efficient programmed like that
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And that's not even taking into consideration running your heat or AC.
@@toskin6395 The BMW wasn't sold as a truck with a tow rating and trailer hitch. The math is that the V6 can't provide the power to give the EV motor the power it needs for sustained load conditions.
@@rogerrussell9544Do any of us know the electric output of the pentastar “generator “, or the demand of the truck’s motors under full trailer load? If my current EV truck can adjust range based on trailer drag, then Ram should be able to extrapolate range and avoid “limp mode”. They have chosen the motors, engine, battery, and BMS for this truck - this should have been solved before this truck ever left a CAD file.
It took Tesla several years to get good at making EVs, and that is with no competition. The best time to "practice" making Stellantis EVs was 5 years ago. They are too late now. Hyundai/Kia had a crappy Soul EV in 2015. That is why they can make something like the Ionic 5 N now. It didn't happen overnight. Customers won't put up with being Stellantis EV test dummies for the next 5 years.
Great technical insight in the comments. The fact that it's even a discussion is also a problem. Lol. The sad joke that gets made is the customer is doing the development. Not sure how burning the customer leads to repeat business. 😢
So glad I bought my V-6 Jeep Cherokee off lease. I’m good to go for years with a reliable, comfortable and handsome SUV. I’ll check back in three years with a smile on my face. Good move with that Jeep.
Stallantis is done. Americans want quality vehicles that are reliable. My family has been a diehard Chrysler Jeep fan for 20 years. However, over the last seven years over eight of my family members have ditched the brand because of the quality issues and the mass increase of cost compared to other brands that are reliable.
I did see one of the new EV Chargers on the road the other day here in Birmingham, MI. It looks pretty cool. Not sure it’s gonna sell, but it looks pretty nice IMO.
Sounds like piss poor low voltage (12v) battery management + a module that isn't going to sleep. Bonus points if it's the 12v bms itself that isn't sleeping.
To be fair, any metal that has been subjected to electrolysis doesn't stand a chance in salt water. It's why boats have anodes, why galvanic isolaters exist. I wouldn't buy An EV truck just because I deal with boats.
Well from what I’m told , the 12 volt battery is the battery that is dying. Something is staying active killing the battery. They are disconnecting them at the plant because they won’t go to sleep when ignition is off.
Instead of trying to do the EV thing with the Ram they should have done what Ford and the others did and focused on perfecting their hybrid stuff first, particularly 4Xe. Improving the existing hybrid tech is more ideal, and if they had given the Pentastar and maybe even an updated version of the 5.7 a functional 4Xe, non-fire starter edition, as an option with the refreshed trucks, they would have made a killing, granted they priced them appropriately. They could still developed the REV and its hybrid counterpart in the background but given it the timely improvements it needed instead of rushing it the way they are currently
Related to my last comment, look at the Silverado EV. Chevy got tons of experience with the Bolt and Lyric. Then they release the Silverado EV and it is awesome. 450+ miles of range and charges fast as hell. If they can get the price down on the non work version it should be able to beat the lightning.
so i dont get it with the "big 3" and these electric trucks. if it was a front wheel drive rice burner i could understand it being a EV. but why trucks and high performance cars??? seems like they would have tested the market with the small cars as an EV first! heck they might have even had buyers for them who knows
Stellantis seems to be a big investment fund full of people who push 'money' around but don't know anything about cars and any true supply and demand understanding whatsoever.
We should have first asked for gas ⛽️ vehicles 🚗 getting 50 - 100 Miles Per Gallon …. to avoid this fiasco with Electric ⚡️ Vehicles … Sorry folks it’s all over now except the crying 😭 ❤️
It do not matter Ford EV truck did not sell and the EV dodge truck will not sell so let them burn through cash may be they will sell the company to a American so they can fix the company
Close the doors and shut the lights off. Still-ant-piss is a sorry waste of time and resources. We're getting along just fine without Pontiac, Olds, Plymouth, Saturn, etc. The employees and shix engineers can find something else to do.
The EV is bound to fail; Stellantis has not done enough research to make it work. They need a partner with experience in the field and only one outfit comes to mind; BYD. BTW, they have experience also making hybrid vehicles and unlike what you might think about BYD, they started out building gas powered vehicles.
i mean are we surprised? This is the same people that made the 4xe, which is probably the worst PHEV in the business. Unsmooth, unrefined. Also despite being PHEV, they are not more powerful than regular non-plug Toyota hybrid used on TNGA-F especially in all important torque. What a fail. Whole point of a PHEV is to give u more power, torque and response
There is something we all have to understand. Peugeot has never build good cars. The French have been buying Peugeot, to buy French and because their card used to be way less expensive than German cars.
Dare forward my butt and I'm not knocking the foreign Engineers but they are not vested in this company they live in third world countries they get a paycheck it is half of what I make but they don't face any of the responsibilities of making the product like going to the plants going into CTC and working with the other Engineers it's ridiculous GM tried that in the 90s in it total failure
i wanted a rev but got tired of waiting so i got a ford lightning best truck i have ever had. and im contractor, and put around 80 to 120 miles a day with no problems
Why buy one of these when you can have a Cybertruck for the same money? Ram fenders will rust out in 10 years and Elon's truck won't show rust for 40+ years. Tesla is by far the most American car company. Why buy an Italian truck engineered by Indians and made by Mexicans. I can't believe people would ever consider buy a faulty Ram when Tesla has a near perfect American made & engineered truck.
So in an effort to save money Carlos has enlisted his 12 year old nephew and put him in charge of software , at the rate this company is going there going to be two employees Carlos Traveras and John Elkin 🥴🤓 , if these two guys can't even do ICE cars and then sort of electric cars with the Ram Rev what makes them think there going to be able to do EVs , TK all these engineers there using are bad half of them probably can't afford cars or don't even own cars , I was in management in a major automotive firm and we had three engineers brought in from India and they were the smartest dumb people I had ever met , they brought in these guys to replace one of our main controls engineers because apparently he was making to much money and it was a total disaster , one of them was so bad within a couple of key strokes he cost us a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and it only took him five minutes needless to say we boxed his little a$$ up and sent him back to New Delhi 😉, at the end of the day whether it be working on cars or building them you get what you pay for , this is why bean counters running auto companies is not a good mix Stalantis is a prime example of that 🤔
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I'm an engineer working on the RAM EV. The outsourcing of engineering to India, Brazil, and Mexico has absolutely KILLED the development of the BEV, BEV XL, and gas generator variants. Expect delays and lots of technical issues after launch. Not sure who his source is, but I'll just say this... this guy is very well-informed.
You put out these piles of shix and actually say so in public?
Mopar mo'problems
We constantly deal with terrible quality electronic parts at our automotive repair shop, I can't imagine trying to engineer something with junk parts and a 3 cent budget.
@@jamesplotkin4674like it's his fault, wow dude!!
@sleeeper88 This. Don't know how many times we've gone to management with solutions to improve design and product robustness just to be told "Can't do it. We don't have the budget, so make it work".
The problems with Chrysler, Dodge, and Ram EVs isn’t a software or hardware issue, it’s a Carlos Tavares issue 😉
Could also be 50 years of worst in the world quality?
My Ex had a Dodge Durango long before Carlos Tavares was running things. That vehicle was a turd on 4 wheels.
@@IP0Monsturdbut at least back then they weren't charging $100,000 for a Jeep 😂
Its not just Carlos, the real problem is with the owner of the company.
Their EVs are coming unplugged!
Shocking, isn't it?
😂😂😂
Now that’s funny!😂
Former Stellantis Tech here, 13 years working in the stealership, quit 6 months ago and you can’t wipe the smile off my face! Bahahaha!
them offshore engineers really earning that $$$
they dont get paid as much as North America thats why they outsourcing it, Boeing 747max which went down twice had coders from Pakistan at 5$ per hour for programming. :)
How did Ford and GM understand the math but Stellantis miss it? For every EV that gets ~100 mpg equivalent, you offset 3-5 V8 sales that get 15 mpg. So you lose $10-20k by selling a Chevy Bolt, but that allows you to sell 5 more Tahoes that you make $20-40k on each. Stellantis is too stupid to stay in business, they deserve this.
actually there was a figure from approximately a year ago saying GM makes $2250 for every chevy bolt they sell.
Another quality Stellantis product ready for debut 😂😂😂😂
Maybe they can get a Tesla robot droid to get the Charger EV to power up? I’m just trying to help.
"Engineers from India aren't bad". Laughs in Boeing 737 Max.
They have plenty of time to make the necessary fixes…since nobody will buy them…rest up TK, you look tired today buddy!
He just woke up. Santa has to rest too! 🤶
What's the matter, Stellantis? Did it blow up at your testing facility? Did it stop working? Too bad, so sad. Ram is dead as we know.
You’re already taking a huge risk buying ice CDJR. I can’t fathom someone buying an EV from CDJR.
How could they go ahead with this EV Pickup in this environment???
Insanity!!!
The Whole Company is Dead Jim Plain and Simple.
Bones on Star Trek...
I've been saying CDJR died when Marchionne died. Really a shame they can't stand on their own instead of always needing a partner.
They can stand on their own.. Chrysler was the most profitable car company around in the mid 1980's to 1998 merger aka take over by the then failing Mercedes...
It's amazing how a CEO can sink a highly profitable company...Every company Daimler/Mercedes..Fiat/Ferrari and now Stellantis is robbing all of Chrysler's cash!
Back in 2009 Chrysler wanted to stay on their own but Obama said you must be sold to Fiat to get bailout money...Honda,BMW,Toyota,Ford all took bailout money!! Chrysler paid it back in full once again,so they can make huge profits...The pos foreign makes always screwed Chrysler and the CEO's are crooks..
This is shocking. ⚡️
Hey it’s about time for big mouth Shawn to call a strike. That’s what he has been flapping his jaws about!! This way he can speed up the loss of UAW Jobs and their exit from America.
The jobs are toast, and the production here is dying regardless of what Shawn does. Would you deny them one last scream of rage as the door slams closed?
Brother I was still working for them earlier this year when Stellantis first started cutting the temps. While that was happening, Fain could be found down south trying to organize the imports. He had to shore up that membership. I call him Shawn "Simple Minded" Fain.
I think that CDJR is going to die. The problems with product, price, and quality will keep getting worse, eventually to a point where even if Stellantis were to offer to sell them off no group of investors would buy it because the cost of fixing all the problems would not make any fiscal sense.
Na someone will buy it. And that someone will buy it because they are going to get a 0% interest loan from the Federal government.
Sell it to the UAW.
That's ThePlan.
They will sell them to BYD China. This has been covered here for weeks.
@@vincentsutter1071 Nope. BYD knows that customers especially former CDJR buyers will never by EVs at any price.
Yup. That's what happens when you have to rush to market instead of doing R and D when they first started getting pushed. Been trying to say that FCA set this up for failure. Anyways enjoy those store bought race cars while you can. 🍻 boys.
And now they are dumping the test track for R&D.
GM delivered 32,000 vehicles in the 3rd quarter. Nothing to brag about.
My two cents….. don’t park that new EV Charger in your garage!
No, that’s the Jeep 4xe’s. Charger EVs need to be kept close to electricity sources because their 12V batteries die within a few hours.
@@Chipshot124 I was referring to a possible fire hazard.
No wonder they are having issues. The model with the V6, let's discuss. The electric motor driving it uses more energy than the backup generation can make. The batteries are so small that there is no range, especially with a load. So, you hook up your boat and head to the lake - in city traffic your batteries will deplete rapidly and the engine kicks on to give you about half the power the ev motor is made to use. How much fun would climbing the grades to the mountain lake at 30 mpg?
That would stink
It’s a 92ish kwhr battery right? Just set the pentastar recharge cycle to start early. The BMW I3 rex had this identical problem- it’s just math.
The negative is that it becomes essentially a serial hybrid, and is much less efficient programmed like that
And that's not even taking into consideration running your heat or AC.
@@toskin6395 The BMW wasn't sold as a truck with a tow rating and trailer hitch. The math is that the V6 can't provide the power to give the EV motor the power it needs for sustained load conditions.
@@rogerrussell9544Do any of us know the electric output of the pentastar “generator “, or the demand of the truck’s motors under full trailer load? If my current EV truck can adjust range based on trailer drag, then Ram should be able to extrapolate range and avoid “limp mode”. They have chosen the motors, engine, battery, and BMS for this truck - this should have been solved before this truck ever left a CAD file.
Only not so smart people will buy that vehicle.
In the USA we call those people Democrats.
It's OK, no one is going to buy them anyway...
It took Tesla several years to get good at making EVs, and that is with no competition. The best time to "practice" making Stellantis EVs was 5 years ago. They are too late now. Hyundai/Kia had a crappy Soul EV in 2015. That is why they can make something like the Ionic 5 N now. It didn't happen overnight. Customers won't put up with being Stellantis EV test dummies for the next 5 years.
Great technical insight in the comments. The fact that it's even a discussion is also a problem. Lol. The sad joke that gets made is the customer is doing the development.
Not sure how burning the customer leads to repeat business. 😢
Another CTSU “Carlos Tavares Screw Up!” You can’t make this stuff up!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Ram should talk to Edison motors in Canada if they want to know how to build a working EV truck with an onboard generator.
Do they have cheap Brazilian engineers Tavares can borrow?
The question is how combustible will these be?
So glad I bought my V-6 Jeep Cherokee off lease. I’m good to go for years with a reliable, comfortable and handsome SUV. I’ll check back in three years with a smile on my face. Good move with that Jeep.
Stallantis is done. Americans want quality vehicles that are reliable. My family has been a diehard Chrysler Jeep fan for 20 years. However, over the last seven years over eight of my family members have ditched the brand because of the quality issues and the mass increase of cost compared to other brands that are reliable.
The company that couldn’t produce a safe 4xe can’t make a truck either. Surprised 😂
A Tow truck is include in the price. lol
I did see one of the new EV Chargers on the road the other day here in Birmingham, MI. It looks pretty cool. Not sure it’s gonna sell, but it looks pretty nice IMO.
Sounds like piss poor low voltage (12v) battery management + a module that isn't going to sleep. Bonus points if it's the 12v bms itself that isn't sleeping.
Amen !
Apparently EVs don't do well in salt water
To be fair, any metal that has been subjected to electrolysis doesn't stand a chance in salt water. It's why boats have anodes, why galvanic isolaters exist. I wouldn't buy An EV truck just because I deal with boats.
Look for the Union Label!
JUST GIVE UP ON EV'S ALREADY!!!! 🥵
Damn! Looking at the numbers, I had really high hopes for this one! Actually looking forward to it.
Well from what I’m told , the 12 volt battery is the battery that is dying. Something is staying active killing the battery. They are disconnecting them at the plant because they won’t go to sleep when ignition is off.
We have a everything problem at shap. My next truck will be a f150 with 5.0
Instead of trying to do the EV thing with the Ram they should have done what Ford and the others did and focused on perfecting their hybrid stuff first, particularly 4Xe. Improving the existing hybrid tech is more ideal, and if they had given the Pentastar and maybe even an updated version of the 5.7 a functional 4Xe, non-fire starter edition, as an option with the refreshed trucks, they would have made a killing, granted they priced them appropriately. They could still developed the REV and its hybrid counterpart in the background but given it the timely improvements it needed instead of rushing it the way they are currently
The U.S. should force Stellantis to return all it's U.S. brands. Even send troops to the Netherlands if they have to.
Electronics in CDRJ vehicles have always been sketchy. There's no way I would trust an ev made by them.
A Carlos money saving short a$$ wire issue .. he $ 0.14 on each car .. or he switched to speaker wire to run the whole thing
I figured they were having issues with the REV. It was supposed to be available by now. I wonder what's going on with the Ramcharger.
SHOCKING well not really
You nailed it 👍🏻
CDJR is messing up so badly, you can’t make this up.
Fix It Again Tony?
General Motors made over 3.5 BILLION dollars in the 3rd quarter.
What about jeep gladiator phev?
Eriously they should let them build v8 stuff because they blo at making EVs
Related to my last comment, look at the Silverado EV. Chevy got tons of experience with the Bolt and Lyric. Then they release the Silverado EV and it is awesome. 450+ miles of range and charges fast as hell. If they can get the price down on the non work version it should be able to beat the lightning.
Not interested in EV's, most aren't. Bolt batteries defective, like GM overall.
I believe SHAP is pissed that WTAP not getting the overflow not saying there breaking the trucks on purpose 😮😮
We haven't launch it.the lines not ready plus we don't have the number employees to do the jobs
The engineers probably sabotaged the software before they were fired. 😂
No replacement for displacement!
I have my 17 ram hemi..still under 60000 miles
*Shocker* 🥁-🥁-🥁
First that goes when bought by an over seas company, or hedge fund is employee morale. You know they're cost cutters to grow the stock. That's it.
Typical Ev junk there are quite a few Chargers in the Walker Rd holding lot here in Windsor try Google map it see if you can see them
I love the RAM REV CONCEPT. Too bad it does not work. They are a company that seems to have lost touch with their market.
It is very SIMPLE Stellantis refuses to leave EVs alone because NOBODY WANTS THEM!
Those South American engineers coming through
A simple way is to have a key
Whatever happened to kiss =
Keep It Simple Stupid
Cheap parts cheap engineers = Failure
It will be an awesome truck
Don’t bother anymore, this company is done, it’s just a matter of time.
I just read that Ford is paying their dealers 25K? to order their electric F150.
Right. That route will work for both Ford and Stelantis.
It’s a larger version of a golf cart. It couldn’t be that difficult.
Stellantis products are a huge waist of money and time look else were for a good vehicle company an product
Ford's EV truck, the Lightening, is a no go as a seller. What makes Stellantis think the 1500 EV a miracle vehicle that people will want?
so i dont get it with the "big 3" and these electric trucks. if it was a front wheel drive rice burner i could understand it being a EV. but why trucks and high performance cars??? seems like they would have tested the market with the small cars as an EV first! heck they might have even had buyers for them who knows
How about a system integration issue.
Stellantis seems to be a big investment fund full of people who push 'money' around but don't know anything about cars and any true supply and demand understanding whatsoever.
Sure hope my 2023 e-torque survives this horror with carlos.
REV Is skidoo and Banshee is Yamaha Lol
I like V8's even older trucks that dont have 500hp.... Good luck with all the electric crap!!!!
We should have first asked for gas ⛽️ vehicles 🚗 getting 50 - 100 Miles Per Gallon …. to avoid this fiasco with Electric ⚡️ Vehicles …
Sorry folks it’s all over now except the crying 😭 ❤️
It do not matter Ford EV truck did not sell and the EV dodge truck will not sell so let them burn through cash may be they will sell the company to a American so they can fix the company
We bailed them out for this?!!!
They weren't stellantis when they got bailed out lol
Damn Italians
Trump 2024. Prosperity for all.
Harris 2024. Poverty for all.
Stellantis is going down either way. How fast it happens would be the difference here.
Close the doors and shut the lights off. Still-ant-piss is a sorry waste of time and resources. We're getting along just fine without Pontiac, Olds, Plymouth, Saturn, etc. The employees and shix engineers can find something else to do.
The EV is bound to fail; Stellantis has not done enough research to make it work. They need a partner with experience in the field and only one outfit comes to mind; BYD. BTW, they have experience also making hybrid vehicles and unlike what you might think about BYD, they started out building gas powered vehicles.
Their going to have bigger issues when nobody wants one.
Very good looking truck they need to add the 6.2 Supercharged V8 as it is reliable!! This truck would sell and make a PROFIT!! Electric,it is dead!
i mean are we surprised? This is the same people that made the 4xe, which is probably the worst PHEV in the business. Unsmooth, unrefined. Also despite being PHEV, they are not more powerful than regular non-plug Toyota hybrid used on TNGA-F especially in all important torque. What a fail. Whole point of a PHEV is to give u more power, torque and response
Why do they even try
CUT BAIT
There is something we all have to understand. Peugeot has never build good cars. The French have been buying Peugeot, to buy French and because their card used to be way less expensive than German cars.
V8's in 2500/2500/4500/5500 trucks still avail.
GM still has them in their 1500's and will for a long time to come.
Gen 6 small block.. Stay tuned.
@@garyh.8082 WE are speaking of RAMS
First hand knowledge with Ford Brazil
Or FSA
Offshore engineering does not work
Dare forward my butt and I'm not knocking the foreign Engineers but they are not vested in this company they live in third world countries they get a paycheck it is half of what I make but they don't face any of the responsibilities of making the product like going to the plants going into CTC and working with the other Engineers it's ridiculous GM tried that in the 90s in it total failure
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nope they can keep all that e.v. crap 😁😁😁😁😁
Ha ha 🤣 Their products fit their management. UNRELIABLE and OVERPRICED
No EVs period! Will not buy one!
i wanted a rev but got tired of waiting so i got a ford lightning best truck i have ever had. and im contractor, and put around 80 to 120 miles a day with no problems
But why an EV when you can get the ICE that does perfectly fine for a lot less money.
@@horseathalt7308 paid 45000 for mine and saving 400 a month in fuel and never have to go to fuel station and the ride is so much better and quieter
None
Self imposed.
Why buy one of these when you can have a Cybertruck for the same money? Ram fenders will rust out in 10 years and Elon's truck won't show rust for 40+ years. Tesla is by far the most American car company. Why buy an Italian truck engineered by Indians and made by Mexicans. I can't believe people would ever consider buy a faulty Ram when Tesla has a near perfect American made & engineered truck.
JUNK
So in an effort to save money Carlos has enlisted his 12 year old nephew and put him in charge of software , at the rate this company is going there going to be two employees Carlos Traveras and John Elkin 🥴🤓 , if these two guys can't even do ICE cars and then sort of electric cars with the Ram Rev what makes them think there going to be able to do EVs , TK all these engineers there using are bad half of them probably can't afford cars or don't even own cars , I was in management in a major automotive firm and we had three engineers brought in from India and they were the smartest dumb people I had ever met , they brought in these guys to replace one of our main controls engineers because apparently he was making to much money and it was a total disaster , one of them was so bad within a couple of key strokes he cost us a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and it only took him five minutes needless to say we boxed his little a$$ up and sent him back to New Delhi 😉, at the end of the day whether it be working on cars or building them you get what you pay for , this is why bean counters running auto companies is not a good mix Stalantis is a prime example of that 🤔
Can you make a good video on dodge? Lmfao. That company is like a zombie. Keeps coming back frm the dead.