I remember in the 80's about a electric pre startup oiler that had a reservoir. It had a connection to the key start with a delayed start till oil pressure reached a preset pressure. I've always thought that this was a very reasonable solution to avoid startup damage.
It avoids startup damage, it prolongs engine oil life, if prolongs engine life, lessens pollution levels of start up for many obvious reasons, and is just a great system overall.
This is why Uncle Tony and Uncle Kathy are National Treasures. Thanks for the wonderfully presented explanation. And, Yes we will give Uncle Tony credit for "Circulartation" once it is entered into the dictionary.
This is why I subscribe to UTG. Not for the JunkYard Jets ( which I just turn off ) but for videos like this which Tony describes in detail on how things to work. The knowledge is so vast that you're captivated of his wisdom and enjoy the stories. He is a master and the way he articulates is why this channel is a gem. Great Job.
What you're failing to realize, is the fact that Tony continues to teach even during videos featuring the young men and their project car. Sure, a few of those videos only focus on the car build itself, but make no mistake, Tony is teaching just as much in the majority of those videos as well. He's not just "disappearing into the background & allowing those guys to take over". So you're missing out young man. Look at it this way: who do ya think is teaching & coaching those guys along in the videos dedicated to their car? Answer: TONY. He is doing 2 things at once: he's teaching those guys AND the young viewers at the same time. Think about it.
I think what they thought at one time and what they think today have nothing in common. Direct injected engines seem to be garbage, and there was no real good reason to cut the engine life in half or more for the very little gain. If I were to off on a rant , it would be about how unions own politicians! They're working side by side for persona gain. Fuck democrats, that pander to complete idiots. All Biden it doing is trying to screw the middle class over and shift the blame for his own incompetence . This was all a trend far before Putin "attacked " Ukraine. FJB and his assault on the world
Tony, this is the type of information that got me to subscribe three years ago. I doubt I'll ever build a race car; rather, I want a great, classic, daily driver that serves the purpose today that it was designed to serve when it was built. You have refined your videos, and you look much more comfortable in front of the camera. But I do miss the Stunt Carb!!!!!
Great video Tony!! A lot of people fail to realize that pumps don’t make pressure. Pressure is resistance to flow. That’s why old worn out engines have low oil pressure, not necessarily from a weak pump, but because the tolerances (resistance) is no longer there. Keep it up!!
FoMoCo's Y-block 292/312 million dollar design engineered upper-end oiling-system was so bad J.C. Whitney had to solve their problem with an inexpensive aftermarket external line kit...that worked.
Really appreciate your style. No blabbing about the weather, your cat, or whatever, no bullshit intro, just right to the point and on point the entire video.
That's where the Ford 427 "side oiler" gets its name,it prioritized oil to the crank first instead of the cam/lifters to keep up with the high RPMs used in the racing applications.
Can you imagine an engineer explaining this, Uncle Tony your the only person I watch that can explain this and speak English at the same time! Thank you so much!
In the hospital with possible heart attack and I’m watching this video. It lowered my blood pressure quite a bit. He’s a dr too. Big block Chrysler calms me. Good video
You truly have a talent for explaining engineering design in lay terms and keeping it interesting. Not only the technical aspects, but the pros and cons of each decision as well as the thought process of the engineers.
Circulatation... *CUT* Oil passes though an interdimensional portal, and returns 4 picoseconds later with every third molecule upside down. No, wait: that's just the mushrooms talking. Carry on - more fine videos from the guy who makes things work, in the style we all love so much. Thank you Tony.
I'm a Ford guy butt use Unka Toeknee for reference. I'm rebuilding a 4.0 OHV and have spent time cleaning and studying the oil systems in the cast and drills. Fascinating how it all works and the many passages to balance psi where it's needed. Some places, it's a miracle how any oil gets to the parts like rockers on this specific engine.
These are SO MUCH better and the only UTG videos I will watch. No offense to any of the "guests" but it is one thing to have an occasional feature but when someone is on everyday, it seems like they are riding Tony's celebrity. I like UTGs BECAUSE it is JUST Tony--or Tony visiting an already established shop or boneyard, not guys looking for a come up. Watching and learning from Tonys decades of vast knowledge while being entertained by his engaging personality is what made the channel successful--if you want to see people riding coattails,there are LITERALLY thousands of automotive channels for that!
My parents had a 318 DB6 Dodge. It was kick arse the power in it was amazing and it was not looked after. Dodge had some magic. My Grand Father had an old Willies. Could not be killed.
Excellent explanation of how oiling works. One of those topics where you think you know something, but clearly didn't have all the details. Much appreciated. Quality of the video is excellent as well.
Thanks UT! I have worked on a lot of engines with buddies and they always want better oil flow to the cam and rockers and worry about restrictions. Now, thanks to you, I understand the How and why of the oil circulation!
Excellent explanation of the oil flow through the block. I often see builders that ad a line from the main oil feed to the left lifter bank. Is that worth the trouble or just a race engine modification? Thanks for all the great videos. Mike
Crazy coincidence: Yesterday I was looking at the B and RB Mopar oil passage enlargement drill bit at 440 source and was trying to figure out if it was something I needed or if it was just snake oil (pun intended). Looks like it would increase the volume of oil to the main bearings. It would have taken me a while to figure that out without this overview video. Thanks Uncle T!
You are my new favorite RUclipsr. Your a plethora of great knowledge. I’ve always tried to explain things like you do and it’s like I scare people off lol. But I’m lovin the videos. Keep up the good work. It’s needed especially today.
Hi Mate, I’ve got an interesting old engine (for me anyway) it’s a 1953 260 cubic inch Rolls Royce inline six where the rods are drilled vertically to lube the piston pin but has a hole drilled at 90 degrees through the side of the rod to directly lubricate the thrust side of the bore. It also has such niceties as a billet crank, sodium filled exhaust valves, beehive valve springs, dual point distributor and everything is mounted via studs. The cast aluminium sump holds 16 litres of oil. I’d like to hot it up and stick it in my model A roadster.
Thanks a few corrections 1. The number one main bearing gets oil direct from the filter 2. The right main gallery feeds the mains and the right side lifters 3. The left gallery only feeds the left side lifters 4. The rockers are fed through the #4 cam bearing which acts to limit the supply of oil to the top end.
Yes you are correct on the #4 cam bearing. I believe there are actually three oil holes in #4 cam bearing and the camshaft oil passage is drilled at an angle that alternates with the left & right side to direct oil to the top end. I believe I am right in saying this and I believe this is somewhat unique to Chrysler big blocks? I am currently involved with an engine rebuild and it is not getting oil to the right side top end. Machine shop cleaned, bored and installed cam bearings. Suspect the cam bearing was installed in the wrong orientation? Will need to pull cam and check. Lesson learned to check this prior to assembly.
The early 265 sbc lifter galleries were fed through the rear cam bearing. A slot was cut in the journal that exposed the oil feed to the galleries for about a third of the cam rotation. The first bbc also fed through the rear cam bearing but the journal was grooved all the way around so the galleries got oil all the time but it was metered by the size of the holes in the cam bearing. It was very common for guys to buy aftermarket cams without the slot or groove, put them in without machining the rear journal and have no oil to the lifters.
Damn it man....Tony....you are just one of the most awesome guys on the www......showing all us wanna-bee's how it all works!!! Bless you and your channel, man!!!!
This is why I devised an engine pre oiling system using turbo post oiler pumps. 10-15 secs of the pre oiler pump running pressurises the oil galleries pre start..
I'm putting a 5.9 magnum together and I noticed the cam bearing holes din't line up with the oil galleys in the block. I looked it up and a lot of people saud that having them offset, but not more than blocking half the holes is good because it acts as a restriction and keeps oil elsewhere. I'm not sure how I feel about it though. People were saying they've seen many many magnum engines like this with no wear.
I remember in the 80's about a electric pre startup oiler that had a reservoir. It had a connection to the key start with a delayed start till oil pressure reached a preset pressure. I've always thought that this was a very reasonable solution to avoid startup damage.
It avoids startup damage, it prolongs engine oil life, if prolongs engine life, lessens pollution levels of start up for many obvious reasons, and is just a great system overall.
Loving it T👍
@@DerpyRedneck yeah sounds very effective. Put it on the shelf!
There was another one that was pressurized , no electronics. I think it was called Accusump, possibly by Holley.
Old Packards had a pre-oiling setup. Ferrari said he got the idea for his 12 cyl. engine from the Packard Twin 6.
This is why Uncle Tony and Uncle Kathy are National Treasures. Thanks for the wonderfully presented explanation. And, Yes we will give Uncle Tony credit for "Circulartation" once it is entered into the dictionary.
This is why I subscribe to UTG. Not for the JunkYard Jets ( which I just turn off ) but for videos like this which Tony describes in detail on how things to work. The knowledge is so vast that you're captivated of his wisdom and enjoy the stories. He is a master and the way he articulates is why this channel is a gem. Great Job.
Yes! All of this.
Love the Jets but, I did teach auto shop at a high school so, the dynamic is familiar.....
What's wrong with the jyj's?
@@robidsgarage I would say they’re an acquired taste I have yet to acquire. 😜
What you're failing to realize, is the fact that Tony continues to teach even during videos featuring the young men and their project car. Sure, a few of those videos only focus on the car build itself, but make no mistake, Tony is teaching just as much in the majority of those videos as well. He's not just "disappearing into the background & allowing those guys to take over". So you're missing out young man. Look at it this way: who do ya think is teaching & coaching those guys along in the videos dedicated to their car? Answer: TONY. He is doing 2 things at once: he's teaching those guys AND the young viewers at the same time. Think about it.
Thank you UTG, for having these basic learning videos out there. People will be viewing these for generations.
Interesting how car manufacturers were always concerned with reducing engine noises and the general public complaining. Never though of it like that.
I think what they thought at one time and what they think today have nothing in common. Direct injected engines seem to be garbage, and there was no real good reason to cut the engine life in half or more for the very little gain. If I were to off on a rant , it would be about how unions own politicians! They're working side by side for persona gain. Fuck democrats, that pander to complete idiots. All Biden it doing is trying to screw the middle class over and shift the blame for his own incompetence . This was all a trend far before Putin "attacked " Ukraine. FJB and his assault on the world
Tony, this is the type of information that got me to subscribe three years ago. I doubt I'll ever build a race car; rather, I want a great, classic, daily driver that serves the purpose today that it was designed to serve when it was built. You have refined your videos, and you look much more comfortable in front of the camera. But I do miss the Stunt Carb!!!!!
Great video Tony!! A lot of people fail to realize that pumps don’t make pressure. Pressure is resistance to flow. That’s why old worn out engines have low oil pressure, not necessarily from a weak pump, but because the tolerances (resistance) is no longer there. Keep it up!!
Yeah it's always fun to watch a mechanical gauge on a cold start and it takes 5-15 seconds before the needle even moves,it gets ya thinking.
FoMoCo's Y-block 292/312 million dollar design engineered upper-end oiling-system was so bad J.C. Whitney had to solve their problem with an inexpensive aftermarket external line kit...that worked.
That or poor oils to blame?
Really appreciate your style. No blabbing about the weather, your cat, or whatever, no bullshit intro, just right to the point and on point the entire video.
That's where the Ford 427 "side oiler" gets its name,it prioritized oil to the crank first instead of the cam/lifters to keep up with the high RPMs used in the racing applications.
Same same always wondered why they called them side oilers now I know cheers Tony !
Can you imagine an engineer explaining this, Uncle Tony your the only person I watch that can explain this and speak English at the same time! Thank you so much!
In the hospital with possible heart attack and I’m watching this video. It lowered my blood pressure quite a bit. He’s a dr too. Big block Chrysler calms me. Good video
You’re a natural born teacher. Never considered the oil routing in an engine to be that important, but how wrong I was! Please keep’em coming!
Learned some stuff again. I'm getting less dumb everytime you do one of these. Keep it up
You truly have a talent for explaining engineering design in lay terms and keeping it interesting. Not only the technical aspects, but the pros and cons of each decision as well as the thought process of the engineers.
Uncle Knows his work 👍💯
Circulatation... *CUT*
Oil passes though an interdimensional portal, and returns 4 picoseconds later with every third molecule upside down. No, wait: that's just the mushrooms talking. Carry on - more fine videos from the guy who makes things work, in the style we all love so much. Thank you Tony.
Circulatory....
Now pay attention, Uncle is teaching Stuff..
@∅
I'm a Ford guy butt use Unka Toeknee for reference. I'm rebuilding a 4.0 OHV and have spent time cleaning and studying the oil systems in the cast and drills. Fascinating how it all works and the many passages to balance psi where it's needed. Some places, it's a miracle how any oil gets to the parts like rockers on this specific engine.
I never knew just what the tern Side Oiler meant. Now I do . Thanks UT.
Therapeutic listening and to watch, and I learned so much in such a short time. Wow....
These are SO MUCH better and the only UTG videos I will watch. No offense to any of the "guests" but it is one thing to have an occasional feature but when someone is on everyday, it seems like they are riding Tony's celebrity. I like UTGs BECAUSE it is JUST Tony--or Tony visiting an already established shop or boneyard, not guys looking for a come up. Watching and learning from Tonys decades of vast knowledge while being entertained by his engaging personality is what made the channel successful--if you want to see people riding coattails,there are LITERALLY thousands of automotive channels for that!
My parents had a 318 DB6 Dodge. It was kick arse the power in it was amazing and it was not looked after. Dodge had some magic. My Grand Father had an old Willies. Could not be killed.
Excellent explanation of how oiling works. One of those topics where you think you know something, but clearly didn't have all the details. Much appreciated. Quality of the video is excellent as well.
The school of UTG has taught us again! I especially liked how the connecting rods and rust pins get oil! Good visual using the thin wire!
Thanks UT!
I have worked on a lot of engines with buddies and they always want better oil flow to the cam and rockers and worry about restrictions. Now, thanks to you, I understand the How and why of the oil circulation!
Thanks UTG. I am an engineer (not automotive), and got alot out of this .
I really like the idea of running two grooved main bearing, Makes sense. Definitely trying that out Thank you Uncle Tony.
This is what I come to youtube for. The wonderful combination of theory and practical knowledge. More of this please Tony!
So fundamental a topic and yet so vaguely covered in most places. Uncle's explanation is the best I've seen.
Videos like this are why I love this channel, great video guys
Looking forward to the next one about types of oil and your recommendations
Could you go through a Cleveland block like that one day, please.
This channel just keeps getting better. Thx for sharing
Learned a lot in this brief video. Nicely explained as usual.
I love all the candy-colored engines you have around your shop. They look good enough to eat!
Tony , that was the best analogy I have ever heard on V8 oiling systems . Thanks
I'm planning on adding a external oil line for my 351m for starvation issues on this block
Love you Uncle Tony. You taught me alot!
@@DanEBoyd duh heck fer hew?
Excellent explanation of the oil flow through the block. I often see builders that ad a line from the main oil feed to the left lifter bank. Is that worth the trouble or just a race engine modification? Thanks for all the great videos. Mike
X2 I have seen this as well with the disclaimer that it's really only for extended high rpm use but I would love a better explanation
Loving them Rustoleum paint jobs on those blocks!!!
Thanks Tony
Good teaching I’m not a mechanic but I like how you go step by step in your videos I have learned a lot about engines
Crazy coincidence: Yesterday I was looking at the B and RB Mopar oil passage enlargement drill bit at 440 source and was trying to figure out if it was something I needed or if it was just snake oil (pun intended).
Looks like it would increase the volume of oil to the main bearings. It would have taken me a while to figure that out without this overview video.
Thanks Uncle T!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience UTG
You are my new favorite RUclipsr. Your a plethora of great knowledge. I’ve always tried to explain things like you do and it’s like I scare people off lol.
But I’m lovin the videos. Keep up the good work. It’s needed especially today.
Your videos are a gift Tony!!! Always learning something new or tuning up what I thought I knew or never thought of!!! Thanks!!!🇺🇸
Really helped my understanding of oil circulation. Good video. '68 Camaro with 327 small block.
Great video UTG👍👍
going with the double groove main bearings for sure . Thanks Bro
Hi Mate, I’ve got an interesting old engine (for me anyway) it’s a 1953 260 cubic inch Rolls Royce inline six where the rods are drilled vertically to lube the piston pin but has a hole drilled at 90 degrees through the side of the rod to directly lubricate the thrust side of the bore. It also has such niceties as a billet crank, sodium filled exhaust valves, beehive valve springs, dual point distributor and everything is mounted via studs. The cast aluminium sump holds 16 litres of oil. I’d like to hot it up and stick it in my model A roadster.
That's way cool. I would love to see it
Excellent lesson Uncle Tony.
Cheers😊
Thanks a few corrections
1. The number one main bearing gets oil direct from the filter
2. The right main gallery feeds the mains and the right side lifters
3. The left gallery only feeds the left side lifters
4. The rockers are fed through the #4 cam bearing which acts to limit the supply of oil to the top end.
Yes you are correct on the #4 cam bearing. I believe there are actually three oil holes in #4 cam bearing and the camshaft oil passage is drilled at an angle that alternates with the left & right side to direct oil to the top end. I believe I am right in saying this and I believe this is somewhat unique to Chrysler big blocks? I am currently involved with an engine rebuild and it is not getting oil to the right side top end. Machine shop cleaned, bored and installed cam bearings. Suspect the cam bearing was installed in the wrong orientation? Will need to pull cam and check. Lesson learned to check this prior to assembly.
Thanks these were things I learned the hard way as a kid
The early 265 sbc lifter galleries were fed through the rear cam bearing. A slot was cut in the journal that exposed the oil feed to the galleries for about a third of the cam rotation. The first bbc also fed through the rear cam bearing but the journal was grooved all the way around so the galleries got oil all the time but it was metered by the size of the holes in the cam bearing. It was very common for guys to buy aftermarket cams without the slot or groove, put them in without machining the rear journal and have no oil to the lifters.
Very good video love how everything is broken down.
just the best thanks
Wow, thanks Tony, I've never heard an explanation as easy to understand as what you've given to us today! Thanks Bro
Never new why they called them side oilers. Learn something everyday.
Damn it man....Tony....you are just one of the most awesome guys on the www......showing all us wanna-bee's how it all works!!!
Bless you and your channel, man!!!!
Do a cross drilled crank one day. I love to learn from you TONY a true old school mechanical engineer
Precise & concise…, that “even a caveman (such as myself) can understand it… just like I like it.
Thank you sir.
I always get something for your videos, thanks UT
cool tip on
when to use high vplume oil pump.
👍
Great engine basics episode Uncle Tony!
Nailing it bud. I know old Vw and you know your stuff.
Glad to see your getting back into the type of videos that created your following. I would like to see Slag hammer content on your channel
Incredible educational video. I am really impressed with UT speaking and teaching skills. Dodge should hire him as a MOPAR historian. No lie 👍
It's ok tony! Far as getting tongue tied goes. I like the way you talk. 👍
Thanks Toni for explenation I have had a rough idea of order of oiling but not understood implication of pros and cons .
I wish I grew up with you. Truly analytical people are the people who succeed in this apathetic cattle of humanity we have now.
Great video, all those oil passages were a mystery to me.
This is why we luv ya's, cheers .
Thank you Tony, Very informative.
love your videos, brother Uncle T!
Awesome video as always UT.
Loving your vids mate. been watching for a long time. You are on the money with all you say.
Great video,Chevy changed the oil system on the big block Gen 5 and later to prioritized main oiling.
Keep on keeping on
Very good UT. Thanks UK.
Very informative Tony. Thank you
Another awesome video from the master 👍😎
Great Video Tony, thank you!
I learned a lot in that video. Thank you!
I learned much. Thank you
UT
nice video uncle tony well explained and thank goodness uncle kathy saved the day lol
Thank you thank you thank you
This is why I devised an engine pre oiling system using turbo post oiler pumps. 10-15 secs of the pre oiler pump running pressurises the oil galleries pre start..
Great video, very well explained!
nice job as always
well done
Another excellent video. Thank you ut and uk
Good information thanks.
great video Tony
Excellent, as usual....
Garage 54 on YT just translated a video where they made a clear oil filter. And showed it working. It was kind of cool.
Thanks Unko. Awesome
I'm putting a 5.9 magnum together and I noticed the cam bearing holes din't line up with the oil galleys in the block. I looked it up and a lot of people saud that having them offset, but not more than blocking half the holes is good because it acts as a restriction and keeps oil elsewhere. I'm not sure how I feel about it though. People were saying they've seen many many magnum engines like this with no wear.
Nice informative video Tony!
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Where's the UTG coolaid? I hear the glycol gives it that kick.