2024 Men's Mid-100 mm Freeride Ski Comparison with SkiEssentials.com
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Next up in our 2024 Ski Comparison: Men's Freeride Skis in the Mid-100 mm width range. This is a tight grouping with widths ranging from 104 to 107 mm, yet we still se a ton of variety and almost a 1000 g difference between the lightest and heaviest skis. Enjoy!
Written Comparison: www.skiessentials.com/Chairli...
0:00 - Intro
2:50 - Armada Locator 104
7:00 - K2 Mindbender 106 C
11:50 - Volkl Blaze 106
18:40 - Salomon QST 106
25:20 - Atomic Backland 107
30:10 - Nordica Enforcer 104 Unlimited
37:10 - Liberty Origin 106
42:10 - Elan Ripstick 106
48:15 - Salomon QST 106
53:35 - Armada ARV 106
58:45 - Black Crows Corvus Freebird
1:03:10 - Black Crows Atris
1:08:00 - Elan Ripstick 106 Black Edition
1:12:15 - Faction Dancer 3
1:17:40 - DPS Kaizen 105
1:25:25 - Head Kore 105
1:29:45 - Line Sakana
1:35:40 - Line Blade Optic 104
1:40:50 - Rossignol Sender 104 Ti
1:45:35 - Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
1:51:30 - Rossignol Sender 106 Ti Plus
1:56:30 - Blizzard Cochise 106
"If we're going schlarvy to carvy... if a ski's got something called Schmeeertech, it probably should be towards the schlarvy side." Truer words have never been spoken Jeff. 55:47 Good stuff dudes. You guys continue to be the most valuable resource out there for those of us who care about this kind of stuff.
Thanks, for implementing our suggestion on schlarvy to cary (off-piste to on-piste). I'm sure I wasn't the only one with the idea, but appreciate the way you listen and respond to your viewers! Great conversation here - shows how much there really are few absolutes in the personality of each ski.
It seems a good way to do this range of skis because there's quite a span of application, even within 3 mm of waist width. Always willing to listen to good ideas!
thanks for this review guys. I bought the Elan Ripstick Blacks last week and skied them in Utah. Can't believe how great they were on the hardpack! Can't wait to get them in some POW, hopefully next week. THANKS
Thank you as always. You guys do a great job of breaking down each ski and comparing them.
Thanks so much! It's a lot of fun, too!
You guys are doing an awesome job with these. 🍻
I love listening to people talk about skis!
Well, I suppose you're in the right place, then!
My favorite category! Excellent as always gents! Being out west my daily driver is this category but I'm learning to be a better carver so your comments related to how well rounded some of these skis are is helpful. I'm also realizing I need to build a quiver out here for specific needs and days/conditions on the slope. I'm quite intrigued by the lightweight versions of the 104 Free, QST Echo and Hustle, but honestly enjoy the bulletproof crud busting, speed adrenaline side of their more stout counterparts. Sounds like I have some quiver building to do. I've never even considered Black Crowes, Liberty or Line, but you guys have me thinking. Great stuff as always.
Thanks! And yes, there are some limitations to the lighter versions of existing skis, so they do make good options, rather than certain "yesses" when it comes to skis in this range. At least some more thought and consideration is a good plan.
Love the videos! Thank you for the content
Bless you for making these.
This has to be the category of all categories lol. So many great skis!!
Will you review the new candide thovex skis line?
I like how this comment is already here a couple hours after the announcement
Actually, we've already put quite a lot of time on those skis and we're pretty psyched to be able to share soon!
@@SkiEssentialsI like this comment too
I love the Corvus, it take some getting used to and the right attitude/terrain, but it''s a hell of a ski
Wow finally an actual review and not an advertaisment. Thank you so much
Love to see Boutique skis as well, like Ullr 112/115 (Based out of Nelson BC)
I bought the ARV 106's from you guys last season, right before the big storms hit in March. They were absolutely incredible up at K Town, and they made me never want to touch my Rossi TI again.
Interesting. I skied arv 100 and sender 104ti on the same deep day last year. Agree with you 100% the rossi ti was no much fun. Lacked float in fresh pow compared to the arv. Seemed better for tracked out powder...imo
As someone who was buried with my bdogs during that storm at bromley you’ve convinced me to get a pair of 106s
@MrDinorex33 just in case we get another 3' storm! You'll be ready
@@MrDinorex33 I was such a fanboy of Lucas Catania that I wanted to get them for fresh snow. They are so much fun, and you WONT be disappointed. These guys set the bindings and shipped them down to Philly in no time! 10/10
@@carterfan80 maybe it’s My center mount, maybe I’m not as strong a skier as I think, but after moving to Vermont, I found there’s more occasions throughout the season to bring out the mid 100 skis then Vermonters have led to believe. Especially with a lot of companies focusing on stiffer mid 100s that are still able to lay down a carve.
I have put Dynafit Rotation 14 bindings on a 187cm Sender 106 Ti Plus and it's going to be my touring setup and the Lange XT3 130 I'm STOKED!!! Haha
“All those fun places we don’t get to ski as much as we’d like” as a fellow east coast skier I feel that statement
I'm sure most skiers say something like this at some point, but yes, It'd be great to teleport to fun ski zones whenever possible.
Another great lineup
Indeed!
I had my Faction Agent 3 on a five week trip to Whitewater last year. My best day was the day I demoed the Optic 104.
Interesting!
Great reviews as ever, I really want to try some Sakanas, they look fun.
So fun!
Love mine, the most fun I've ever had on skis. I'm not one to try and catch air normally but the Sakanas beg to play and just be a little goofy and carefree.
I could really recommed you guys try the Icelantic Nomad 105. They are great skis and I think you guys would really enjoy them.
We see them at the industry events we attend--will have to make more of an effort to get there this year as Icelantic has been on our list for a few years now.
Thanks a lot for the video, great description.
I'm currently looking for a pair in this range but I'd like it to be a lot of things so I'm a bit lost.
- I need to be able to tour with it, mostly slackcountry and very occasionnal pow day tour. Not dedicated touring setup. So while weight is not a priority, it's a factor. I'd ski them with dynafit radical pro boots.
- It would be my largest ski.
- I want something relatively stable, for resort pow(ish) days, so chop and even crud.
- If it's agile enough in trees, etc ... That's a plus.
- I'm 5'10, 170-75 lbs, advanced to expert level, directionnal, tehnical skier, mostly ski offpiste in the resort.
- I'd keep them at home as my week-end second setup (with my pure touring setup) so some versatility would be great, the pure resort skis stay at the family flat in 3 vallées.
I currently own :
- rossignol hero st ti 167cm. Like them but don't use them that much, remind me of my racing teens.
- ripstick 88-180, with marker griffon : my resort daily driver, they're fun, great for long resorts days with lower level skier, carve suprisingly well, extremely easy to flick and easy to strap on a backpack. But they're really too easily deflected when I charge in lower quality snow and not really confidence inspiring when dropping (small) cliffs.
- blizzard zero g 95-177 with marker alpinists 12, great as a pure touring setup, very predictable in the steeps, stable for its weight but very light.
I'm considering the atris (looks fun but is it stable enough ?), qst106 (heavy but I fear that the echo would not be stable enough), corvus freebird (maybe lacks fun ?), ripsticks 106 or 106 black (too on piste oriented ?).
I'd likely set them up with dynafit rotation 14 for the relatively light weight tuv certification. I don't like the idea of having only one riser on the shift. And Duke and Cast system are heavy and look complicated. But I'm open if the rotation is insufficient.
Any advice ?
Go with the Atris, but go with the 184, so maybe a bit longer than normal to max out on the smoothness of the ski.
I value your broadly-scoped and appropriately-arranged, comprehensive, reviews!!! You folks do a great job of translating ski construction to on-slope skiing characteristics. You've changed the paradigm for ski reviews (THX!!!): classic ski mags seemed bent on picking ONE BEST and ranking the rest--I've never liked that review model because I'm on the lighter end of the body weight spectrum, but I'm an expert-level skier that loves powder, powder covered bumps, trees, bumps, and the rest (in that order). For example, if a ski mag review ranked a Nordica Enforcer, or Rossi Soul whatever, as #1 (for how many million times?) then I'll question the size (wt, height) of the reviewers and the ski ranking, though I note the all-mtn shape and construction of the higher ranked skis, but inquire how that translates to more flexy/intermediate skis that are softer flexing for my body weight. Ski reviews that state "hard charging" or "powerful" turn me off instantly because I know from experience that those skis are best for a 200lb skiers. An overly-stiff ski offers no dynamic reward during a turn.
Along the same lines, it's entertaining to hear you guys discuss the whole tip flapping thing. I LOVE a ski that attempts to conform to the terrain that I've chosen to ski, and ski-tip-flapping is a result of the ski following the undulations below my feet--I love that. Rarely, in my experience, has tip movement affected performance-- conversely, I love an accommodating ski!
Thx, and keep up the good reviews, and pls note in reviews which skis are more softer flexing for us "light weights".
Thanks! It's kind of like standardized testing in schools. Needs to be tailored to the individuals. Such as lighter weight skiers who enjoy flexing a ski.
bob bending skis like pro athlete
Hi I’m an east coast skier looking to ski out west or in Europe next year, I fit Jeff’s ski style a bit more and I’m 5’10 150 lbs. If you had to recommend 3 skis for dropping cliffs, charging through tracked powder and keep in mind some applications for powder days back in the east, what choices would you recommend? (Please mention ski size as well!)
finally!! greetingsfrom chile
Wow- you guys certain know your stuff - epic reviews
Thanks! They're fun to make!
I guess ski shop guy didn’t hear it was my first skiing ever……came home with Salomon Spro 130 boots and bent chetlers with a ~100mm at the bindings and up to my forehead. Crushed it
Sweet!
I have older backland 107's, the graphic this year is so sick.
This year's is darn near perfect graphics.
Been watching for awhile for the Cochise to be included in these reviews. Mostly as I ride them and to see something comparing what I'm on to what's out there is interesting. I'm still riding ( 2 pairs actually one rock and one not) the 2016 vintage which I get the impression is the most disliked year for those not fans of the Cochise.
Hi great vid! Im looking for a ski in the mid 100s that can go ham through crud but is also a twin tip. what would you recommend from these skis above or any other ski? also how does the enforcer 104 compare with the unleashed 108?
The Nordicas are right there in terms of crud busting twin tips. If you want to go a bit wider, you get in the zone of either the Enforcer 110 or the Rossignol Sender Free 110. The Enforcer 104 has longer rocker and more metal than the Unleashed 108, so it crushes crud at higher speeds. The Unleashed can be used in shorter turns and slower speeds with less demand. Dynastar's M-Free 108 is also worth a look when it comes to sturdier twins with pretty dramatic rocker.
Hi guys, love your job ! I got a question for you. I’m a big fan of the mantra and in particular. The 102. But I would like to find something a bit more flex and funny. Like I don’t want to be full charge the whole day. And have more fun on jump and off track. I mean with more pivot. Thanks for your help
In that same width, I'd say the Armada Declivity 102 is the next step down, and then the Bent 100 from Atomic is at the other end of the spectrum.
Hello! please help. I'm wondering between the Blizzard Zero G 105, Atomic backland 107 or 100 and the Salomon QST 106 Echo. I'm a very good skier and I'm looking for something that will allow me to ride stable in all snow conditions while focusing on going uphill. Thanks!
I think the Backland 107 offers the most upside here. It's one of the best skis that we've seen when it comes to blending uphill efficiency with downhill performance. Echo is likely the smoothest and most stable, but it's also on the heavy side. Zero G falls to the other side of the spectrum where I don't feel it has the necessary alpine performance level to be stable in all snow conditions.
Hi,
Im looking to buy some new skis but im having a hard time picking.
I currently have Aramda edollo 2019 172cm, but I feel like they are very stiff and too much park oriented.
I would like a more allround ski, that works in well in different areas and it would be great if they could be a little looser and easier to do butters on.
So far I have been looking at Faction Prodigy 3, Bent Chetler 100, Armada ARV 100 and Line Bacon 108. 172cm length in all of them.
Im a intermediate rider, 170cm tall and 80kg.
What would you guys recommend?
Also great video!
It sounds like you're describing the Bent 100 to me. Well-rounded, easy to use, and flexible enough for butters and groundwork. Probably 172 in that ski as well.
Hi guys, great content as always!! I am interesting in your take on the best 105-115mm range best touring powder ski. What would be your take on that for someone who skies agressive, mostly in the alps and has a freestyke background. I was on the vision 108 and absolutely loved them
thanks!
So you're looking for light, somewhat twin tipped, and still sturdy--I'd take a look at the Salomon QST Echo 106, Armada ARV 106 UL, or the Atomic Bent 110. You can get a lot of performance and fun out of these skis!
@@SkiEssentialsMany thanks for the reply! Very helpful
Not sure if you've skied the 1000skis but the all mountain 1000skis are also 106 under foot, would like to know your feedback on those and what other skis are similar to it
1000 has been one of the most requested ski brands to try. It's definitely on the list for us.
I wiould be realy grateful if you guys gave little advide.Blizard rustler 10 or atomic Maverick.I like more playfull ski.That can handle vubration and have preformance in not deep snow but more on the softer side soft and in icy ungroomed conditions.
THanks in advance!
It sounds to me like you're leaning to the quieter and more stable Rustler. The Maverick is pretty stiff for how light it is and that usually does not indicate stability. Rustler, though, has a denser feel to it while still remaining playful due to the rocker and splay of the tips and tails. I'd lean to the Rustler.
Hey, how would you describe the differences between QST Echo vs Blaze 106? And Enforcer 104 Free vs BC Justis?
The Blaze is a better floater while the Echo is a better turner. I'd rather ski the Echo overall, but if I were only using it as a powder ski, I'd take the Blaze. Justis is one of my favorite skis of all time--it turns on a dime, much more so than indicated by the 20m turn radius, and it's about even with the 104 when it comes to flotation. The Enforcer is wonderfully well-rounded but there's something about the Justis that I totally love.
Thoughts on Atris vs Sender 110 for west coast mixed bag application? in that 105-110 range how would you describe the differences in performance between these 2? Current quiver = Mirus Cor, enforcer 100, Rustler 10 and JJ 116 UL. Which would you get to round out my lineup for primarily west coast/BC application. Thanks in advance and great content as always!
The Sender 110, in addition to being a better floater, is also a turnier ski. I find that the Atris works best when used in more of a fall-line application--it's incredibly smooth and capable of flattening out a run. The Sender likes to play with the conditions and terrain in more of a creative way. The added width and rocker in the tail makes it an ideal choice for fun-loving and deep snow skiing while the Atris is more useful and versatile for when the snow's not super deep. I do think the Rossignol has more upside for your application here.
For the Atris, what length would you recommend for an advanced skier with weight 68kg length 172cm. Thanks
Personally I think this ski feels short, but the ski starts at 172, which I think is pretty darn good for your stats and application.
Thanks for the review.
I got a question, I came from Line Vision 108 to Blackcrows Atris 105, is it good for me to switch it Atris to Echo 106?
I don’t go backcountry but just looking for something resort lightweight and stable while tough snow conditions. Atris was okay, but too much weight I think compare to Line Vision 108 that I used to and less float after they changed.
I think you're in a good spot here. The Echo is almost as smooth and stable as the normal QST 106, but more agile for sure. This Echo mixes the qualities of your skis quite well.
The cochise to me seems like an difficult ski to fully understand in the East. No hate on yall, its just super unique the beauty of the ski comes alive when skiing steep chalky runs at the bird, its got a levitating characteristic that is completely unmatched in how it skids over chalk. If you're ever at the bird on a chalky day and have a chance to ski a Cochise do it, and ski off piste on the steeps every chance you get.
I have seen quite a bit of dislike for the Cochise over the years. I picked up a second pair for cheap from a guy who had been skiing on the 178 but didn't like the 185. I thought lightly used was what I was getting but looked to be barely used before he decided not for him. Certainly ski long.
Thanks guys! What a great category this mid-100mm freeride has become. Lots of interesting options!
How does the Atris compare to a ski like the Origin 106 in terms of on-piste performance? My experience with Origin is pretty much everything you guys mention. It's a really fun ski, but I find that it lacks a little in the energy department. I would like something that is a little more at home on-piste, but still a blast to ski in soft snow. The Atris sound like it might be that ski as it has most of the attributes. Thoughts?
I agree, and I'd add QST 106 to the discussion as well. Lots of similar shaping properties as the Origin but with more beef, basically, for on-piste performance.
Question: I’m similar weight and height to Bob and thinking about getting the 104 free. Is 191 overkill or should I play it safe and go with the 186? I keep seeing 104 free owners say they wish they went longer. I’m intermediate to advanced level.
At 6/2 225 I would have a hard time feeling comfortable on the 191. I feel that skiers who are very aggressive and are skiing in wide open spaces will have more success on the longer side, but if you're at all hesitant, I think that pushes the needle to the shorter size.
Any thoughts on the 4front MSP 107 or line in general? Seems to fit nicely into this category? Many thanks in advance
We don't get out on the 4Frnt skis as much as we'd like. From what we know, they'd be right there with the QST 106 and the like.
Want to see where the Rekoner 112 fits... I use it at Whislter and west mountains as a daily driver.
That ski would fit better in this video: ruclips.net/video/WLrn213_mB8/видео.html
In that range, the skis would be on the looser side of the spectrum, as it is more of that twin tip ski--the Bacon 108 has a lot of the same vibes when it comes to flexibility, lighter weight, and playful character.
Hey Bob, just trying to get some context when you talk about yourself as a bigger, heavier skier. I’m 6’1, 190.
Are we in the same ballpark when you talk about your ski preferences relative to your size?
Thanks
I'm 6/2 225 so we're close, I'd say!
I wonder who was the salomon skier mentioned. Cody? I would like to see Augment, Majesty and Ubac included.
We met Josh Daiek who's about as impressive of a skier as you'll find. Super nice human as well.
Have you ever tried Moment skis? It would be cool to see you review some other skis made in the USA
Moment is at the top of the list for new brands to try.
Really torn between the Ripstick 106 and Mindbender 106C. Presume the Ripstick is better on trail. Is the Ripstick more floaty given its wider shovel? Or does its narrower tail detract from that? Which one is more playful/flickable? The lighter weight would presumably give the Ripstick an edge, but heard the shaping of the Mindbender gives it an edge. Really appreciate any insight you can provide!
The Ripstick has more energy and pop to it than the K2, which is more meandering (in a good way, I think). I'd rather ski the K2 in deeper snow while the Elan is a better on-trail ski .
At 200 lbs and 6’2” I find the Elan Ripstick Black edition in 188 to be amazing for the PNW variable conditions up to waist deep pow. The regular ripstick, for me, seemed just slightly noodly. Like you said, a lighter skier will likely be ok on the regular Ripstick.
Yup, same feelings here!
What’s up guys I am 5’10, 155 lbs and I ski half east coast and half west and I am a pretty agressive skiier that skis mainly off pist in the trees, chutes and all the hardest stuff the resort has to offer. I’ve been skiing bent 100s but they are now too small on me and I heard they don’t hold an edge well so what ski do you think would be perfect for me that has a little more edge grip and strain lining capability through chutes, but ski has that very quick turning of the bent 100 for the tight trees of the east? You recommended me the black ops 98 on your last vid but I just think the 183 might be a little too big for me, and the lower length would be too small. Do you agree and if you do, what other skis do you think would match me very well? Thank you
I'd check out the Black Crows Camox in the 180 or the Nordica Unleashed 98 in the 180. A bit more edge grip and energy than the Blackops and the Atomic, and also comes in that 180 cm length as well. Lots of fun and versatility to be had here with these skis!
@@SkiEssentials I appreciate it and I have heard alot about the camox but what about it do you think makes it better for me than like a salomon qst 98, atris, ripstick 106 black, rustler 10 2023, or dps koala 103 because I also have watched all of your videos on them and they also seem pretty solid for me?
Currently Ski on a Rossignol Experience 80 (165cm). I am 5'10" and ski in Oregon/PNW primarily. Would probably be considered an intermediate skier - comfortable on blues and blacks, like to venture into double blacks a few times a year. Ski probably 40/60 on/off piste. Been thinking about getting something close to 105 to explore more off piste.
Any suggestions from this list?
It's nice to go light and/or maneuverable. I like the Enforcer 104 Unlimited and the K2 106C for this application. Easy to turn, energetic, and very fun and floaty. The Nordica is a bit more crisp on-trail while the K2 is surfier and more flexible.
Thanks so much. Been considering the Enforcer 104 Free or Black Crow Atris, but will look more into the Unlimited and K2! Appreciate the recommendation. @@SkiEssentials
I own the KORE 105's and have no problem bending them as I am a heavier (220lbs) ex racer. My issue with them is that they are too stiff for working moguls so while they ARE fun and carve on piste with the best of them, they are a LOT of work in the moguls.
Thank you for this breakdown… if you could choose one ski between atomic bent 100 & 110, line vision 108 and salomon qst 106 for a relatively playful, good floating ski that also works well between trees and is solid on groomers which one would you recommend?
I'd say the Salomon QST 106 fits this description the best.
@@SkiEssentials thanks
do u guys think that the atris are good for like freetouring set-up and also everyday choise or qst echo are better?
Pretty similar in terms of shape and application. I like the Echo for shorter and tighter turns as well as more technical terrain, but I prefer the Atris when it comes to longer turns, higher speeds, and smoother overall performance.
so maybe atris are batter as a fun all around ski (resort/tour/freeride) ?
When will you have the front side 65-80mm width video out?
Hopefully before December if all goes well!
So the mention of the big mountain skier who likely skied the QST Echo.... Cody Townsend?
Josh Daiek was in town helping with a movie premiere and he's as nice of a person as he is good of a skier, which is to say, lots of both.
What do you all think about the paradise vice 113?
First time I've heard of them but just checked them out and they look sweet! I really like how they have a mounting "zone" as opposed to multiple lines. Looks like a very playful profile and nice stats in terms of build and shape!
Hey guys! Looking for a little advice.
I’m a 5.11 135lbs expert level skier
Ski mostly west coast
Ski mostly off-piste
Looking for something that I can ski fast through some chunk, but can turn fast in the trees and is playful. Preferably over 100 underfoot.
My current pair are pretty beat up 2018 (I think) blizzard rustler 10s at 172cm. I’ve grown a bit and looking for something 177-180cm probably.
Generally I ski pretty aggressive and I like to send some cliffs also.
What do you guys think is best for me?
I'd put a strong vote in for the Enforcer 104 Free. Nice and sturdy, great carver, and with a good sense for cliffs and air. I'd go with that one in the 179.
I have the liberty 106 but find it a bit soft, especially when it comes to handling crud and chopped up fresh snow, what do you recommend for a mid fat ski that I can take into the trees and bumps for quick turns, but still has enough stiffness/metal to bust through soft chop? Taller/Heavier skier, 6'5''
Thanks!
I think your stats can call for a sturdier ski, so the Nordica Enforcer 104 is certainly in play. Line Blade Optic 104 is another wonderful ski in this range.
Thanks. Your prior recommendation worked great for me.
what do you think of the moivement 105 fly?
Never skied it--do you have any experience or thoughts on that ski?
I have a question :
Qst106 vs Mindebender 106C
If I have another 88 waist ski?
The K2 is lighter and more flexible while the QST 106 holds up to more aggressive skiing. If you prefer nimble and agile and playful, I'd go K2 but for more of a direct fall line style of skiing, and increased on-trail performance, the QST 106 is tough to beat.
@@SkiEssentials One more question:
Would you be able to rank the following models in order of stiffness:
Qst 106, ranger 108.
My biggest concern for Mindebender 106C it is they are made in China.
Thank you !
@@mihailangelakidis1629 QST is stiffer than Ranger. Are you concerned about China from a quality or a humanitarian standpoint? If it's quality, fear not--they're great. Humanitarian, I can't help out there.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you for the comprehensive response.You are the Best!
Have a nice day!
I couldn't decide between if I should get the Enforcer 104 Unlimited or the QST 106. I already have an old metal 90mm as my daily driver/rock ski but I find it holding me back during the end of march storm in Vermont coz it sinks too much. My skiing style is mostly moguls and trees. Don't carve much and no park. I recently moved to the east and I know we don't get light pow. What can I get that is good for the east powder and a once a year west trip and yet still be usable on the less icy days? Or should I be looking at QST 98 instead? For my style would a Enforcer 104 Free be too heavy and stiff? These 4 pairs are my finalist that are spinning my head. Please help me out! 🙏
You're in the right zone with four great choices. It seems like if you are looking for something that can handle most everything, the Salomon skis make more sense. The 98 is most interesting to me as it fits your style of mostly moguls and trees. As a Vermont skier, that'd be my choice for eastern skiing and trips out west.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks for the advise! Will I enjoy a pow day with the 98? Afterall my motivation of getting a new ski is how painful my current set is on pow
@@SportNut1 There's a good amount of rocker and taper in the 98--I'd say it's the best floater at its width.
Have you guys ever reviewed the Shaggy skis? I’m interested in your thoughts?
Never skied them! They look very interesting, as all the smaller brands do. What's your favorite Shaggy ski and why?
I have been looking for a ski to add to my quiver for early season or really cold January days when there has been no snow in a week or two. Something for when it’s bulletproof. So I started with your reviews because they are the best on RUclips and then I started scouring the Internet. While doing that I came across Shaggy skis and I saw they have a ski for those types of conditions. I saw they have a form on their website where you describe your type of sking and conditions and they recommend a ski. I can tell you firsthand they have great customer service and people who love to talk about skiing. I also try when possible to support small businesses. I think I’m going to order a pair and if I get up to Stowe I’ll let you guys borrow them the day. Cheers, Wes
Hi guys, will you make a dedicated touring ski comparison video for 2024?
I don't think so. Most of the skis that we'd include return unchanged from 2023, so feel free to revisit that one if necessary. The big one that we didn't have last year that everyone's talking about now is the Black Crows Draco Freebird which looks very, very nice.
@@SkiEssentials It is interesting that many people consider the Draco as a touring ski when it weighs almost as much as light freeride skis.
Have you thought of including Majesty skis in your reviews? Would be curious about the Havoc Carbon.
Will you be reviewing the Peak skis anytime soon?
Not any time soon. Hopefully at some point this winter.
Sorry, not a fan of the purple QST. Maybe it’s better in person?
More of a lavender in person? Not sure if that helps.
Great review guys!
Searching for 2 sets of ski. I’m advanced skier. 178cm, 79kg. First one like a daily driver, 60/40% off-piste/resort. If there is no possibilities to go off piste or trees, than these skis should be able to ski in moguls, firm snow. I like short/medium turns. Sometimes do carving. If there is park, I do jumps, but not often.
Another set for the pow days. I am going to Austria or Italy 2-3 times per year, so not too much pow days, but need to be prepared:) In the pow I like short / medium turns. Having fun by catching some kickers in the woods. Also would like to try ski touring. So probably these ski should be with shift bindings.
Can someone advise on 2 setups? Powder and trees dedicated: Atomic Bent 110 (180cm) with Marker Duke 16 (I've read bad comments about shift bindings...) or Faction Mana 3 (184cm) with normal alpine bindings. Than daily driver: Armada Declivity 102 ti (180cm), Nordica Unleashed 98 (180cm), Rossignol Black Ops 98 (182cm), Dynastar M-Free 99 (179cm), Salomon QST 98 (183), BC Camox (180cm). Thanks:)
If you like shorter turns, I think the Bent 110 is a great choice. The Mana can be a bit of a handful. Shift bindings get a bad reputation, but most of that comes from user and tech error rather than overall use. They're certainly lighter than the Duke, so if you are looking for efficiency, the Shift is more so. For the daily, I'd say the Declivity is a great option--fantastic carver that also has a lot of off-trail potential.
Hi Jeff and Bob, appreciate your delicate videos. I'm an advanced skier, bought Backcrows serpos according to your mid-90 video. I enjoy the serpos, which is powerful, stable but still bendable. I think the serpos are very versatile, can handle various snow types, steeps, moguls, carve on hard snow, but I feel hard on the powder. Therefore I'm looking for wider ones, still stable, versatile, edge grip, playful everyday drivers. After watching your mid-100 and 110 video, I found QST 106, dancer 3 and nordica unleashed 108, could you give me any advice? Thank you!
The Dancer 3 is a good option for a great carving ski while the QST is on the more floaty side of the spectrum. The Unleashed 108 is a nice mix of the two--a partial metal laminate for stability and smoothness with a floaty shape for deeper snow. I love the Unleashed for mixed terrain and conditions.
@@SkiEssentials thank you so much for the reply! Could you recommend the size for me? I'm 6'1 185lb, don't know if I should take 186 or 191. Thanks!
@@yinze425 I'd say the 186 is plenty. The 191, I think, is for very large and/or very aggressive skiers. I'm 6/2 225 and fit on the 186 just wonderfully.
@@SkiEssentials thank you so much Bob!
Narrowest of all the Locators?
Correction! Locators start at 88.
What’s slarvey?
One of these newfangled combined words using carve and slip/slide to describe a slower, pushed turn that manipulates the sidecut but still keeps the edges engaged.
I personally think that a 100 mm under foot ski is the ideal one quiver do it all ski width.
Skis like this can carve so well these days, it's tough to disagree!
QST vs Ripstick... that's the debate for me in this category
Owned the QST 106 last season for the first time. Insanely versatile for a wide ski. Pretty fun on the groomers (stable, not a lot of chatter, able to carve), lots of fun in bumps and trees (unless it was really firm conditions), and an absolute delight in anything soft. I'm 6'2" 205# PNW skier who loves chutes, trees, powder and bumps.
The Ripstick is quite a bit more energetic than the QST, which has a heftier and smoother feel overall. The pop of the Elan is off the charts, and it does carve better than the QST, especially through the tail.
What does "energetic" mean?@@SkiEssentials
Seems like the Volkl Mantra 102 is missing in this lineup. Would have liked to see it compared to the Blaze 106.
Been waiting for this particular group of skis. You guys do such a great job and I can’t help but be a big fan of SkiEssentials!
Hopefully I’ll see the place in person this season. If east cost conditions permit a Stowe visit.
Mantra 102 was on the 100mm ski review.
@@beeegeeedeeeyes I know, but it would be nice to see the Mantra next to the Blaze for comparison sake.
In the 2023 lineup of mid-100 skis I believe they included some 102 widths.
@@keith2076but you need to also note the grouping the guys picked: 100mm all-mountain vs. mid-100 freeride.
@@lassivaatamoinen5468 in last year’s mid-100s the sizes started at 102. Although they still did not have the Mantra
The Mantra 102 and the Blaze 106 are very different skis in terms of character and application. The Mantra is a high-powered carving ski that still has enough width to handle softer snow while the Blaze is a lot lighter and more manageable in deeper and softer conditions.
ONE SKI QUIVER
AHHHHHH WICH ONE SHOULD I PICK???????
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like to have a stable ski
Love stability at high speed on the groomers.
Love deep snow and floating easy
Love making carving turns small and big.
Not a park lover
Like some response
- [ ] Black Crows Mirus Cor
- [ ] Blizzard Rustler 9 ski
- [ ] Revolt 114 vökl
- [ ] Faction prodigy 2
- [ ] Rosignol black ops 98
- [ ] Revolt 104 Vökl
- [ ] Faction dancer 3
- [ ] Black Crows Atris!
- [ ] Vökl mantra m6
- [ ] Rosignol sender ti
- [ ] Armada ARV 100
I think if you're mixing higher speeds on groomers with softer snow performance, you have to narrow focus to the Rustler 9, Sender Ti, and maybe Dancer. Sender is great--strong and smooth while still being a good floater. I'd start there and then go Rustler follwed by Dancer, then Blackops.
No 'Top 5 Fridays' means no sneak peak at the next comparison 😢
Sorry! Likely headed to the women's side this week and hoping to broach frontside and twin tips next.
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So I bought the Elan Ripstick Black Edition 106’s and dropped them after just a few days cause the Head KORE’s are way better all around, much easier to initiate a turn and lighter underfoot. I have 99’s to carve and 111’s are a dream to ski mounted at +2 for western powder days… Just saying even after paying full retail the RipSticks are being given away to a buddy in need - for me it’s give me HEAD or give me death 💀 forever…
Note: expert : 275 lbs
I do think that at your weight, the shovel of the Ripstick is on the flexible side, so I'm not surprised to hear this in the least. At 225 pounds, I love my Kore 93 almost any day.
RUclips has been censoring me lately so I might have take some time to watch this..
The picture quality is incredibly clear..
The whole QST line looks really good..
Maybe you needed the scale to include snappy... slarvy-snappy-carvy..
Faction.. I don't know if I have ever seen a ski with 2 sheets of metal have that much camber..
Kaizen.. You guys said a lot in a short period of time.. My Foundation is very turny.. Maybe the word precise would fit.. You also mention Head Kore 99 as a comparison and I would say reactionary.. When I talk to people on the Kore 106 it sounds like it is more damp..
You have two videos of skis that are supposed to be 2024 100's and zero coverage of the Bent 100. Total fail on your part.
ruclips.net/video/vKRsPpvq-fk/видео.html
Enforcer 104 free is the goat
it all makes sense now why that rossi sender felt so good
Why am I not surprised to hear this from you?
Confirmed these guys are NOT paid by Blizzard
Correct!
I think you guys need to say at least one bad thing about each ski, who's with me?
Negativity is easy. The challenge is finding the proper benefits and application for each ski--that's what we're focused on.
Hey guys!
There are no reviews i am finding for Moment skiis. Heard a lot of good things about the Wildcat 108's in this category.
Great domestic ski company deserves a day in court by the two best ski reviewers on this continent!
Thanks for all your "hard work" skiing and talking about boards so the consumer can make good choices!👍🤣🌨️🏔️⛷️🍻
Even within the brands we sell, we have a LONG list of skis to get to. I hear nothing but wonderful things about Moment and I do like the domestic and homegrown aspect of their company.
Oh boy is this great. ❄️⛷have fun at the Boston expo