Piedmont Airlines Training Video - Powering back the 727 and 737

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2019
  • This 1984 video, shot at Piedmont Triad International Airport in Greensboro, NC, demonstrates the power back procedures for Piedmont's 727s and 737s. Produced by the Piedmont Airlines Audio Visual Services Department. (Courtesy of the Piedmont Aviation Historical Society)

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  • @AdrianInflorida
    @AdrianInflorida Месяц назад +1

    I worked for Eastern back in the day. We did power backs on DC-9, 727 and 757s, the 75 was wild

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo Год назад +13

    I flew with Piedmont Airlines in the mid 80's while visiting the US. The Captains on the flights always sounded like Elvis Presley. Very good airline, polite staff who had that warm Southern US way about them. And sure its the only time I was in a jet that did a powerback. Never seen it done anywhere else.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 6 месяцев назад +2

      When I was a kid my Father worked for the 60 - 70s Frontier Airlines 727 / 737 and they always did power backs due to the locations they flew, rural western states and towns, e.g. Scottsbluff, NE was my first experience with a power back

  • @craigjackson2428
    @craigjackson2428 3 года назад +14

    So miss Piedmont Airlines and the 727s, 737-200s!!! Loved sitting in the rear window seats watching the flaps and thrust reversers with landing. Thanks for giving an kid avgeek great memories!!!

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 2 года назад +4

    So much more fun that a pushback

  • @the-realRayCapece
    @the-realRayCapece Месяц назад

    My first commercial flight ever was December 1987 on a Piedmont 737-200 from TF Green in Warwick (PVD) to Raleigh, NC.

  • @RobertDixon-sw3dz
    @RobertDixon-sw3dz 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was so proud of Piedmont from the 70s and 80s. I wanted to work with them in the mid 80s and I was close to seriously pursuing a job.

  • @williamscott3444
    @williamscott3444 2 месяца назад

    Good to see the Piedmont name again. I worked ramp for Continental for many years & pushed many MD80s. Good to see the old 737-200s again. Those engines were ear splitters if your hearing protection got dislodged. Thanks for posting video.

  • @JM-75003
    @JM-75003 Год назад +5

    Saw this fairly often, but only recall being onboard a power back once...a Northwest DC-9, circa 1990.

  • @AdrianInflorida
    @AdrianInflorida Месяц назад

    Yep DEFINITELY do not apply brakes while reversing.

  • @davekozeruba9821
    @davekozeruba9821 6 месяцев назад

    Shahane and Roy! Now, there’s a crew!

  • @ezHiker35
    @ezHiker35 2 года назад +5

    The only times I remember being powered back was on a Northwest DC-9 or MD-80.

  • @charlestompkins8341
    @charlestompkins8341 4 года назад +9

    Loud, it was. But I'm wondering: do they do these powerbacks anymore? I recall seeing them done all the time at Minneapolis-St. Paul in the early 80s, but I've never seen it since at other airports. Maybe they discovered problems with doing this?

    • @airpiedmont
      @airpiedmont  4 года назад +4

      I don't think so. If they do it, it is in extreme cases.

    • @Elios0000
      @Elios0000 4 года назад +1

      i had seen them used by Delta as late as the late 90's at BWI

    • @CrazyForCooCooPuffs
      @CrazyForCooCooPuffs 4 года назад +2

      Fuel costs too much and there are always risk of engine damage so there's not point in doing it ever again also considering that majority of aircraft do not have clam shell reversers that allow it.

    • @MrTchou
      @MrTchou 4 года назад +2

      No powerback anymore, because of fuel costs, noise regulations, risk of FOD ingestion, also new planes are not approved anymore and i guess gates also.

    • @caillouthemesong137
      @caillouthemesong137 4 года назад +1

      They still do. Well, atleast in the military.

  • @danielkennedy1524
    @danielkennedy1524 4 года назад +7

    If only Air Florida had not used pwr back to help the tug pushing!

    • @jaydendavian4410
      @jaydendavian4410 2 года назад

      You prolly dont care but if you're bored like me atm then you can stream all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my gf for the last weeks :)

    • @kairaul2695
      @kairaul2695 2 года назад

      @Jayden Davian Definitely, I have been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself :D

  • @mubd1234
    @mubd1234 4 года назад +4

    Why weren't pilots allowed to use brakes while reversing? Was there a fear the aircraft could pivot on its head and flip backwards to strike the tail?

    • @airpiedmont
      @airpiedmont  4 года назад +7

      According to the experts, and I am not one, "Applying the brakes when backing up has the potential to stand the plane on its tail."

    • @killman369547
      @killman369547 4 года назад +11

      yes, that is the main concern. If you stop suddenly while reversing the aircraft will have a real tendency to tip onto its tail and while that may look funny to the passengers in the terminal it's not so funny for the engineers who have to fix the plane.

  • @stitch-xx2oo
    @stitch-xx2oo 4 года назад +4

    Did Piedmont do ths? Ithoght by powerbacking it would damage the engines.? Grat video.

    • @airpiedmont
      @airpiedmont  4 года назад +3

      Yes but only at airports where it was allowed.

    • @stitch-xx2oo
      @stitch-xx2oo 4 года назад

      @@airpiedmont does backing the airline damage the engines?

    • @airpiedmont
      @airpiedmont  4 года назад +4

      @@stitch-xx2oo It uses more fuel and puts more wear on the engines, but I wouldn't say it damages them.

    • @smilnjac
      @smilnjac 4 года назад +9

      I was a ck airman on the 737 and we did occasionally do powerbacks it was the exception rather than the norm. There was some concern that it could cause ingestion of ramp debris and dirt in the engines. Trained ramp personel were allowed to do push backs so it really wasn ‘t that great of a savings to do power backs. Less worry on FOD on the 72 as the engines were mounted higher.

    • @charlestompkins8341
      @charlestompkins8341 4 года назад +4

      @@smilnjac Interesting. I didn't think about the lower engines on the 37...

  • @ndg9367
    @ndg9367 3 года назад +2

    Power push back was one the worst thing that you could do to kill or damage to the engines!

    • @182QKFTW
      @182QKFTW 2 года назад +1

      Check out this B-737-200 with the gravel kit. She has shielding behind the nose gear and vortex vortex dissipators on the inlets of the Pratt & Whitney JT8D's! Nolinor B737-200 GRAVEL Landing Meadowbank Mine ruclips.net/video/Oinyq7Hnz4s/видео.html

    • @chris22capt
      @chris22capt 8 месяцев назад

      This doesn't apply to low bypass turbofan..

  • @piedmontrailfan81
    @piedmontrailfan81 Год назад +1

    Kind of ironic considering the 737 that overran the runway in 1986 because the pilot forgot to reverse thrust 💀

  • @therago-xm7lg
    @therago-xm7lg 3 года назад +7

    Back when nobody cared about global warming and gas

  • @soccerguy2433
    @soccerguy2433 3 месяца назад

    What a waste of fuel