Transformers 5 - How a Filmmaker Destroyed a Franchise | Anatomy Of A Failure
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Michael Bay's Transformers films may have never been the greatest, but the entry that began destroying the franchise for good is 2017's Transformers: The Last Knight starring Mark Wahlberg and Stanley Tucci and evil Optimus Prime. This is also the movie where Michael Bay's blockbuster career started to struggle box office wise as he followed up with 2020's 6 Underground for Netflix and no BO details. In a not-so weird way, the flaws that Michael Bay started strongly manifesting in Transformers Age of Extinction have now grown even stronger here, to the point of making The Last Knight a box office flop. And so in today's Anatomy of a Failure, let's look at Michael Bay's main faults as a director and how those faults destroyed The Last Knight. Here's how Michael Bay ruined Transformers, and what hope there is to salvage both him and Transformers 7.
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Transformers: The Last Knight (2017)
With Optimus Prime gone and a war brewing between mankind and the Transformers, Cade Yeager (Mark Wahlberg) teams up with a British astronomer (Anthony Hopkins), a university professor (Laura Haddock), and the Autobot known as Bumblebee to Transformers 2 - What Happens when a Movie Isn't Written | Anatomy Of A Failure Transformers 4 - How a Franchise Destroyed a Filmmaker | Anatomy Of A Failure watch transformers the last knight full movie online free transformers the last knight honest trailer everything wrong with transformers the last knight Optimus Prime (voice of Peter Cullen) gods of egypt a guide to making the ultimate trash studio movie transformers rant michael bay bad movies transformers 7 bumblebee watch transformers full movie online free 4k hd clip Bumblebee 2 what is the next transformers movie and the rest of the Autobots bayhem what is bayhem unicron the last knight ending fight quintessa nemesis prime optimus prime vs bumblebee the last knight cybertron the last knight dark of the moon revenge of the fallen transformers only Justice league snyder cut trailer black suit superman snyder cut full trailer reveal the snyder cutaction fight scene transformers battle scene ending fight optimus driller shockwave soundwave prime vs lockdown must join forces with a new,save the world from a terrifying new threat. Along the way, the group investigate the secret history of the Transformers' time on Earth. Josh Duhamel, Isabela Moner, Stanley Tucci, and John Turturro co-star in action sequel from director Michael Bay.
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Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014)
The Transformers film series continues with this fourth entry from director Michael Bay and executive producer Steven Spielberg. Optimus prime vs lockdown In the devastating aftermath of the fight for humanity, an enigmatic group strives to alter the course of history as an ancient force of evil plots the destruction of mankind. In order to defeat it, must join forces with a new, resilient band of humans who will fight an epic battle that will determine the fate of the entire human race.
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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)
Sam Witwicky leaves the Autobots behind for a normal life. But when his mind is filled with cryptic symbols, the Decepticons target him and he is dragged back into the Transformers' war.
Director: Michael Bay Writers: Ehren Kruger, Roberto Orci Stars: Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel. The battle for Earth continues in this action-packed blockbuster from director Michael Bay and executive producer Steven Spielberg. Everything wrong with transformers revenge of the fallen cinemasins honest trailers transformers revenge of the fallen transformers rant michael bay bad movies transformers 6 bumblebee watch transformers full movie online free 4k hd clip transformers gods of egypt movie gods of egypt the a guide to making the ultimate trash studio movie exposition transformers official trailer 1 movie trailer transformers the last knight official trailer When college-bound Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf) learns the truth about the ancient origins of the Transformers, he must accept his destiny and join Optimus Prime and Bumblebee in their epic battle against the Decepticons, who have returned stronger than ever with a plan to destroy our world.
Maybe the eventual vids on 1 and 3 will be a bit more positive...
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Spider-Man 3 for me is like pirates At world’s end for u
Bumblebee, the greatest Transformers movie🍿🎥ever made.
@LittleRedWolf How do you know about watching Bumblebee, the greatest Transformers movie🍿🎥ever made? Did you saw the greatest Mark Wahlberg movie called Instant Family?
mr filmento please do a episode on death note
For what? Did you saw Crank 2: High Voltage⚡?
Never made sense to me how Autobot’s were being killed, yet Deception’s were only being imprisoned.
The bumblebee movie had better logic: The Decepticons lied that they were the 'good guys' and framed the autobots as fugitives. Even then the humans trusted neither of them and mainly only wanted in on that sweet technology. Even John Cena pointed out that "They're called Decepticons", and this point was actually acknowledge, but made inconsequential to the potential benefits of Decepticon technology, which is at least more solid than "hrr we think autobots are bad, let's hire literal decepticons who have deceived us time and time again to help hunt them without any checks on their power."
Plot armour
@@sergiochavez9902 Made of the strongest metal of all, Plot-hole-tanium
Why not just bring up the obvious plot point from no.3... where Chicago happened as a "lesson" that Decepticons could not be trusted and by getting rid of Autobots who held them in check everyone got screwed... but its ok we all learnt our lesson by the end of 3...
..oh wait.. no we didn't coz 4 happened and now we are at the same problem... but hey at least we learned... oh wait...
Mindblown lol
British Megan fox substitute
Yes
@@theirishpotato6588 Star Lord's Mother.
Substitute for Carly who was already a substitute for Megan.
More like under legal age Megan Fox 🤮👎
as you are a PC substitute for Frank
The Last Knight literally felt like it was written by a bunch of stoned fratboys. One of the cringiest movies I've ever seen.
Is this you on your pfp?
ppl keep complaining about michael bay but keep watching his movies
@@afrotron As long as that keeps happening, he always wins.
Transformers 4 made ONE BILLION!
First where the sombering music is full shit.
Much worse than that, it is literally the only movie my wife and I walked out of. It made less than zero sense, one minute they are sinking in the ocean, the next they are swinging Excalibur around, WTF...
The original Witwicky story was abandoned. In Transformers 1, the elder relative, explorer Archibald Witwicky, discovered Megatron and the AllSpark, buried in the Arctic ice. The map to its location, burned into his glasses by Megatron’s navigation system, was a large part of the original plot. The Witwicky’s were tied to the transformers by accident. Fast forward to The Last Knight, the Witwickies are referred to as guardians, who forged and maintained a secret alliance with the Transformers for over a thousand years. No. Just plain NO! Not even close to the storyline.
mr bay thinks his audience has his attention span and memory
As soon as i saw the "historical" transformers images i knew the movie was gonna be awful
These movies plots have always been trash I mean glasses lol
Absolutely
What I always say, Bay and his team should have had a sit in a coffee shop to discuss a storyline for the upcoming films after the success of the first one.
Transformers 5: The movie where Unicorn...I mean Unicron was teased...it will never pay off
It can't even have a payoff. They showed that Unicron is the Earth. How can you have characters ON THE EARTH fight A TRANSFORMED EARTH. One question that writers couldn't figure out in the entire script writing phase while audiences figured it out in literal seconds.
@@vise_atoxity8083 TF Prime did a good job with the whole "The Earth IS Unicron" plot
@@vise_atoxity8083 I was talking about the show Transformers Prime lol
@@vise_atoxity8083 Uhm, I believe you kind of misunderstood him. He mentioned Transformers PRIME, an animated series, handling the Unicron plot competently. Not the Last Knight.
TFP: Been there, done that.
“the best part of being at Rock bottom is that there’s no where to go except up”
Micheal Bay: *Pulls out jackhammer*
*Pulls out the C4
@@gachalostitall979 Not a Micheal Bay Without 5 tons of C4
XD
Pulls out nukes
Pulls it out of his Ass!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Somebody had to say it 🤷♂️ !!
“My movies give people jobs”
Obviously not jobs for writers
well they have to somehow string together his amazing ideas somehow, or try at least.
He hires writers, they're just not doing anything or they aren't worth a damn.
I can't believe there are people who defend these movies, and Michael Bay.
funnily enough, writers alot infact.
that is one of the problems. mb is famous for saying that he "took a bunch of the best writers an locked em up in a room for a week".
alot of people write these scripts. instead of having one person with a vision and a coherent story to tell. just a bunch of people who just toss ideas.
@@patrioticcat5768 you can have great writers but they will never write good transformers movie without being a fan or knowing nothing besides the movies.
The Bumblebee movie's cybertron scene shows us that you don't need to be funny to make a good scene.That scene is by far the best in all the movies,watching these two factions fight for their survival is honestly entertaining and badass.
The Bumblebee movie was awesome because Bay had nothing to do with it. Whatever he touches he ruins. Case in point, the new garbage "Rise of the Beasts" movie.
@@rawls101Hey, it may be many
things, but it wasn't garbage.
@@rawls101but he didn’t touch that either. It was a lot better than the last knight
@@rawls101you realize his name is in the credits right 💀
@@bengilhooly3616he was co producer in that also...and has been involved with every live action transformers to date wdym 💀
I love how Micheal Bay portrays Autobots so violent and chaotic among themselves that I feel that even if they destroy all Decepticons, they would start fighting among themselves about petty things.
i mean if you've been fighting a war for a pretty long time you would be pissed
Between this and Optimus ripping off the fallens face I’m not sure the Autobots are the good guys, I think they’re just slightly less evil decepticons
@@CountJoe1 correct me if im wrong but didn't the fallen kill quite a few us soldiers and instantly stole the matrix when sam plunged it into Optimus
@@snopom I said slightly less evil
@@CountJoe1 yeah you're right about that sorry if i sounded a little aggressive
Imagine if the cg team got hired for a movie with good writing and story.
Most of the budget went to explosions and vfx lol
@@ryandunklee634 and it's not even the best CG in the whole series
@@slickryder I agree
@@slickryder 🤨 your high
The movies have good writing and story
The decepticons in this movie are more friendly than autobot like wtf
Very true
Decepticons? Honestly, I forgot there were any in this movie.
@@tristanraine I forgot which deception is which they are all the same tbh
True, Nitro Zeus was an absolute homie. So was Mohawk being a bitch.
the shattered glass universe the decepticons are friendly because they are the good guys so i don't really care.
I feel like this movie is the perfect example of that one friend who won't stop cracking jokes about every little thing, to the point your whole friend group hates 'em.
I really feel like brainwashed Optimus should have been a much bigger threat than he was, and he should have been brainwashed for longer. Actually add some tension
Or a clone but Purple colour scheme
@@Inquisitor66330 shattered glass optimus
Bay wouldn't know how to build that tension or how to use it if he did.
I feel like the audience is brainwashed Optimus and we are being told to settle for these shitty transformers movies. Dont listen and dont pay they will make it better. Look at bumblebee
@@Merjedmedia THANK YOU someone with reason
Transformers 4 - How a Franchise Destroyed a Filmmaker
Transformers 5 - How a Filmmaker Destroyed a Franchise
the 1st statement would be TF4
the 2nd statement would be TF4
@@souvillaine5131 TF4-TF5: How a franchise and a filmmaker destroy each other
TF4 was good tbh
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This movie tells us that bumblebee was battling nazis in WW2. I think we all know the most confusing part about this.
I think Michael bay doesn't know that bumblebee wasn't exist during the WW2
@@lalkiran1950 continuity is shit. That's what bay thinks. He loves bayhem and boobs and butts. I am tired. This franchise needs writers from the cartoon shows.
@@lalkiran1950 yea he would bumble is prolly in his early 20s in Cybertronian years but in Human years he’s prolly a little over a million years old
@@lalkiran1950 typical Hollywood , if they left out that scene it would be a far better movie , I even laughed at the jokes of Cogmann
@@hawk5394 then how the fuck did he just arrive on Earth in his own spin-off? also we are meant to believe that he was fighting nazis then acting like an actual child in Bumblebee 2018
You cannot deny that this movie had an amazing score, and that this Megatron design is the coolest one yet.
Yup
What do you mean by score ?
@@Breakaway-ic5gj music
thats not robot but look more like a android monster cyborg
Armada Megatron is still the best for me
Hell, all of Unicron Trilogy design are great in general
Except Cliffjumper
As a family tradition, my father and I saw this film in theaters. We literally left with a headache and I genuinely couldn't remember the plot after having JUST seen it.
Me and my father likes watching movies as one of our bondings, we absolutely favored the transformer series and when these god awful "things" came, we just straight up never talked how terrible it id
Yeah, I like how the first 3 films were somehow watchable but the action gives me headaches because of the designs of the transformers, then they make cleaner looking transformers yet the plot is so fucking dumb that I wanna write these movies myself or just end it with dotm
@@dexktop_430 the design has nothing to do with it it’s the way the camera moves I could watch these movies from 1 to 5 without getting a headache
I think that was the point
Sadly, no disrespect to your father, but he, and you, don’t know anything about good writing. The movies are good.
Optimus Prime: “Bumblebee? Your Voice, I have not heard that since Cybertron fell.”
Also Optimus Prime: **Allows Bumblebee to speak in the first movie AFTER Cybertron Fell**
Me: Okay when exactly did Cybertron fall? Because you've been incredibly inconsistent on that.
@@perun6688
What do you mean? He talked in that movie near the end and the Allspark's exile was the fall of Cybertron. It makes perfect sense.
I think its described in the games Fall of Cybertron and War for Cybertron. There are gameplay videos which entirely describe the events. I think Bay should've stocked to that story. Its so deep and the characters are relatable.
@@shanujwilson1204
He shouldn’t be anywhere near those games, those were actually good
@@username-yc3bd yeah, those were. The game experience, even when I was just watching a 4 hour long gameplay was awesome. That script must be simply be put to action. It would make an awesome series or sth, if not crammed into a movie
I had heard that Michael Bay was basically bribed (because he was done after the third movie) into making the last two entries in the transformers series and him making the last two was his middle finger to paramount
That would explain so much
Im pretty sure it was, I heard that in an interview that he was done after 3 and he wanted to go on and focus on his other projects, but paramount wanted more money
Also, what filmento failed to adress here, is that he thinks everything with The Last Knight is Michael Bay’s fault. When he says all the multiple plot points for example is all just MB shoving everything into the movie. When in fact it was producer Lorenzo DiBonaventura (producer on all TF films and sort of a showrunner) who wanted to cram everything into this one movie. Michael Bay and the writers room wanted to make different movies covering the King Arthur mythos, Bumblebee in WW2 and evil Optimus vs the Quintessions. But Lorenzo rushed him to make everything into this movie. The same could be said for the runtime. It was supposed to be 3hr, and that would make it way more cohesive. But them Paramount freaked out when it got leaked and pushed Bay to make it shorter. So it is a bit like the Justice League version. I just hoped Filmento could have done a bit more research on this, when at least this time not EVERYTHING is Michael Bay’s fault like he says in this vid.
I heard Michael Bay is just shit. The 3rd was horrible too so unless he was preemptively sabotaging them I think the mystery is over lol
Yeah, that's giving Bay way too much credit. Guy's just a self indulgent idiot who can't think more than 2 steps ahead.
In my opinion, Cogman’s “You were by far the coolest.” Was somewhat wholesome for some reason, I liked it in my opinion.
He's just nitpicking tbh
It does ruin a somber moment, like instead of thinking he's great on our own we get told how "cool" he was.
@@mynamejacob8678 idk I’m a bit torn here cause all movie we see then bantering back and forth so hearing him pay his respects that way fit his character. Now if they were modeled after Batman and Alfred it wouldn’t make sense. But at the same time I don’t mind some good banter I wish they would have been taken more seriously at the same time.
@@mynamejacob8678ook man this would be fine for a movie that is trying to be serious if it's not then this is nothing
Infact it's the most tame
I think the point he was trying to make was that it's not a problem on it's own, it's when its constantly happening that it becomes an issue.
As a person with really bad ADHD, the term "ADHD given physical form" is unbelievably accurate for this.
Oof
And that's why I love transformers films, I'm aware their crap but their fun and I love them
I have it to, agreed and I deadass couldn’t concentrate in this
Your just being Jumpy and Hyper
Man. Dont put titles on yourself man
@@Gogeta2501 are you seriously telling someone who you have never met that they don’t have adhd? They’re probably diagnosed
His sponsor was just him flexing that he is a movie nerd and has a girlfriend
Nothing wrong with that
And that he has an account on Furry4life
the only thing i respect in michael bay films are the logistical issues of production.
@@PPPPPPPP8 stop spamming dude do something better with your time
@@ertedyrib5001 friend, I've done a lot of great things with my time, now I'm off.
*when you realize the first transformer movie was just a 2 hour ad for the new Camaro*
That movie was actually at least decent
It was at least an entertaining ad.
@@hopefulmayhem5744 agreed
And it’s still the best movie out of any of them except bumblebee
Very funny...
Hard to remember that the Dino bots who were badass and massive warriors and now their just yeah junk yard dogs
Michael Bay was all like: "You know something, I just don't give a damn." And proceeds to just throw everything at this movie that turned it into such a convoluted mess.
I hope they make a fresh start with the movies
@EnderGlitch They did. With the Bumblebee movie, it was confirmed a reboot in 2019. The next movie is supposed to be not connected to the first five live-action movies either.
@@dippy_1999 bumblebee wasn't better than Bays movies, just to say that he isn't as bad as everybody says
@@michiel1162 lol bee movie better than tf5
@@_somestuff this was gonna be 3 hours long?
This movie, and the previous one, are the very worst examples of Hollywood blockbuster movies.
Tied with the startrek reboots.
@@hopefulmayhem5744 no those are enjoyable
@@hopefulmayhem5744 More like 'The Fast and the Furious' franchise.
- Unnecessary sequel? Check.
- Soft rebooting a franchise with new characters? Check.
- Trying to lure old fans solely by brand recognition? Check.
- Tied to a line of products outside the movies? Check.
- Shameless China pandering? Check.
- Pretends to be edgy but plays it safe to not upset anyone? Check.
- Jingling the keys for your audience in the form of explosions, slo-mo shots, generic "epic" soundtrack and raunchy shots of the main characters? Check.
- Hasn't spawned any good memes? Check.
Yup. They're the worst.
@@DonVigaDeFierro I am borrowing this list.
As a big Transformers fan, I am saddened that nobody will ever like Transformers now that these movies have been made.
I thought about it, how sad, I used to love the series myself but now not really
@@littlemisseevee2309 I got back into the series in 2018 after Bumblebee came out, which gave me hope that Michael's damage can still be undone. However, many others, like yourself, have turned away, and the recent Netflix show is not enough to bring people back.
@@dkkanofkash8798 yeah but I didnt really fall out of it because of bay, sorry if I implied it, I just kinda lost interest, but when I saw this in my recommended all I could think is “there’s a fifth?”
Oh you know what worse? Hasbro is now literally milking G1 to death and make people go far away from Transformers
the animated series have been pretty fine.
It's a bit annoying that I'm probably gonna watch the next Transformers movies regardless of its quality just because I love this series so much... I'm part of the problem too
Well at least they reboot the franchise and are now moving away from Bayformers
@@zillauniverse7208 they said it will tie to the bayformers bit a little but
@@frogadier0072 their not part of the problem, you are.
@@zillauniverse7208 clown
@@mariodacostamosteiro7262 No you’re the one who’s part of the problem.
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I cant believe its almost 4 years after this monstrosity
Times flies very fast, that's why
I kinda just went for the big action when optimus like roundhouse kicked megatron my little 12 year old brain came out again.
Have you recovered yet?
@@Wig-po5nb for 12 y.o this movie awsome i cant argue with that
@@maxthebrave228 no, i still pissed why bay make trashformer
"No, we want ideas, those are special effects!"
Michael Bay: I don't understand the difference???
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Good thing James Cameron and Ridley Scott knew the difference
"Explosions happening for no reason" Micheal bay in a nutshell
Transformers : *touch anything
Everything : *Explodes
I guess Micheal Bay secretly has Killer Queen
I can’t stand this movies constant aspect ratio changing. One moment it’s an IMAX frame, then the next is 2:00:1 frame, and then is the usual 2:39:1. When movies do that for no reason, it angers me.
I think it was a case of pick up the nearest camera, not bother to look at what type of frames it shoots in and Bay simply yelling "ROLL CAMERA AND ACTION!!!"
@@superomegaprimemk2 I would understand if Bay wanted to have multiple angles for the same take, but it's not even a scene difference. It changes from shot to shot.
Im surprised the editors didnt yeet themselves out of the booth seeing that shit.
This is so sad. As a keen G1 transformer fan, it makes me so upset to see my favourite characters reduced to nothing and have personalities thinner then paper.
Same here. Optimus with lips and blinking eyes? Starscream, my favorite Deception, was a short, wide little sniveling loser. Devastator? Looked like a bulldog and was taken down by two stupid, joke cracking twins then never existed in G1. Absolutely garbage.
@@kingschwag4208 Starscream was always portrayed as sniveling idiot.
@@kingschwag4208 uh you do know devastator got killed from jets shotting a missile at him right? Mudflao only broke his eye but skid and mudflap ddint kill devastator
@@BanMan1263 Jets? It was a rail gun.
I think the perfect example of how Michael Bay stopped caring was during a behind the scenes featurette, when a producer said the only reason they brought Barricade back was because "kids liked him."
About half way through production they sent a poll out on TFW (transformers world forums). Basically like the biggest transformers fan site on the interenet, anyway they asked who they should bring back. Everyone agreed barricade because he hadn’t been killed off and his death in Dotm was ambiguous enough to believe he hadn’t died. Well in the film bonus content they literally said they did it for kids and had no mention of him not dying, they just said they brought him back for no reason. Just pure shitting on ACTUAL fans of not only the transformers franchise, but the bay films themselves. Just no effort whatsoever. That’s why everyone hates the last knight. Bayformers fans and regular folks.
That's nothing compared to what happened in 1986.
That scene where Megatron politely asks the goverment for his friends is fucking hilarious
Exactly because in tf1 he flicked a human
@@Tanknuggets217 Since then, he finds himself pretty much stranded on Earth like the Autobots. See, in TF1 he just thawed from the ice/holding cell below the Hoover Dam, so his view of the tiny little humans was all new, in RotF, he saw the fall of his mentor at the hands of Optimus while assisted by humans, in DotM a similar thing with Sentinel (while not his mentor, but still a thing), he kinda started to "respect" those tiny little creatures. He might still be hell bent on conquerring Earth or rebuilding Cybertron, or whatever his ultimate goal is, but he might as well find humans as a power to be reconned with. They managed to kill most of the Autobots and imprison his fellow Decepticons on their own towards the 5th movie, so might be a thing to consider, if you're helping "your god" to rebuild Cybertron and need your fellas to aid you, that you'll be asking politely.
Cade Yeager wants to kill all the titans and free humanity from its giant walls.
Wait, fuck, wrong Yeager.
Aot is soooo much better than the abomination that is this.
@@nman551 Transformers tln is nothing compared to Aot why are you even comparing?
Aot is so miles ahead compared to majority of the Most of hollywood movies
I’m still waiting for the next episode to realease
@@nman551 to be fair AoT manga ending was pretty bad
Okay but let's be real here for a second;
Optimus Prime riding a mechanical three-headed dragon while wielding a giant sword into battle is one of those things that is ridiculously stupid but also incredibly awesome at the same time
Couldn't agree more. I don't treat this series like another movie. I go purely for the action and the transforming scenes
"If you suffer from anxiety"
>Halo Flood theme starts playing
Yeah, that song is basically Anxiety: The Musical.
I love it all the same xD
God I was wondering why the music he put there made me uncomfortable lol
Surprisingly accurate
3:50
You beat me to it!
343 Guilty Spark was terrifying to me as a kid.....
There was so much nonsense in this movie that my girlfriend asked me if I was watching different movie when she walked in once in a while.
my god dude ur horrifying. You can literally know what happens
then the movie is just not for you.
@@mcdonaldsisforfatamericans7185 I know right u can literally know and see it’s the same movie this person is stupid
@@izukumidoriya8224 For most of the movie, yes, but the beginning with the medieval ancestry I would've never guessed to be in a transformers movie tbh. So if i walked in and saw someone watching that, I wouldn't have assumed it was transformers either.
@@amazingamari4009 but u should at least stay to watch because those knight and medieval scenes show transformers and it’s been hinted that the transformers are more than just robots their knights or guardians or etc and it don’t mean it’s nonsense these people are liars
Are we not going to talk about how none of whatever even happened in the plot mattered in the end? Optimus just showed up out of nowhere and oneshot the bad guy because no one else could
I guess he had a boost from just being revived by Sam
Never understood how the Transformers movies were too heavily human involved. Its right there in the name Transformers. In the animated series there where whole arcs that didnt even involve humans. he should have just stuck to the drama and stories involving the Transformers.
I imagine it's a choice related to the action: it's better for a big blockbuster movie to have giant robots fight from the perspective of the humans, to make it seem grander. And also because, if you did that, you'd have to develop them a lot more for the audience to relate, and the producers didn't want to go through the effort of that and just slapped a bunch of generic human characters as the protagonists instead.
In contrast to say Godzilla. The transformers can actually talk. They can show emotion. They actually get all this talent but they just won't let the robots take the lead.
Watching clips for the films, the Transformers can clearly hold the audience attention. We don't need the hot chick or the screaming man boy.
Actually some of the humans Iike Lennox could totally stick around. They are useful and I'd be more intrigued in seeing that group and the transformers interact as equals.
I think it's more that Bay just wouldn't change it up. I think other directors would(and did) in Bumblebee.
A lot of it has to do with cost. All that CGI takes time and money, because it is a live action movie at its core, rather than fully animated. Probably part of the reason why the robots are made up of jagged parts is so that they can cut corners during the fight sequences and not have it be apparent. If I recall correctly, Bay himself stated that one of the reasons product placement is so prevalent is that it allows for more robots and more fight sequences. That product placement aspect applies to organizations as well. Showing Chinese things in a positive light makes the movie more appealing to Chinese investors and no doubt gets some access for locations. Meanwhile, the US military likes movies that show them in a positive light, seeing them as a recruitment tool. And even with that, the film makers still look to cut corners where they can, like in how they used a sequence from The Island and added CGI to it to use in the Transformer franchise.
If the humans weren’t there then it would have lost it’s fast pacing and that is the reason why like these movies
@@Axterix13 that would be a good point if whole movies weren’t made with CGI, and for lower budgets.
You know what drives me completely insane about these movies? I have been a transformers fan since childhood, and I love the franchise. However, to the mass public, these movies are apparently all the transformers franchise is, and I absolutely hate that. The more and more I think about it, the more and more these movies infuriate me so much. The more you watch the cartoons, read the comics, or play the video games, the more you realize that those would've made a better film series than what we got. And what really worries me is that is the feeling that these movies turn against the transformers franchise, which they shouldn't! Because, transformers is an amazing franchise, with so much lore and stories that'd be perfect for a live action film series. Just not this! Not this abysmal, wasted opportunity.
Bro wrote a entire paragraf
@@BanMan1263 *paragraph
this franchise also the reason why ironhide wasnt used in any of the other transformer films/ series anymore
The first three movies were decent additions to Transformers that added new lore and concepts. AOE and TLK were mistakes though.
Boomer lol
Me before seeing the movie: Can wait to see big robots fight with big explosions.
Me after: Did I just watch Megatron ripoff the suicide squad?
Not only that, but these "try hard to be badass" soldiers of Galvatron die like bitches. But hey, one of them robbed the bank, so cool (at least whoever wrote this try to convince us of this).
Michael Bay has forgotten Galvatron, why do you remember him
Optimus: *Will stab Bumblebee
Bumblebee: Save... Martha
Transformers 5 was destroyed alone by it's horrific use of Aspect Ratios.
yeah it got me headache
so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that - I genuinely thought I was watching an unfinished version somehow
I legitimately threw up from the nausea it caused.
Not joking... I was sick because of it.... If i wouldn't watched the film with my 12 years old cousin, i would walked out from the cinema after the first 35 minutes
It took me out of the moment I didn’t have in the first place
Gotta say I thought Age of Extinction was actually pretty cool, wasn't perfect by any means but it felt alright to me. Lockdown was one of the best parts imo.
But then you get this and.... oof, what were they thinking.
🤡
@@plushimusprime2926 what?
Michael Bay: Yeah, let's kill that guy Ratchet. Who cares if he helped save the Earth from the Decepticons in the past movies I directed
Also Michael Bay: All Decepticons must be incarcerated and not killed because LOL
because money
Mutha fuckin money
No shit
Bay while making TLK:
Bay: "Ok, I don't want to waste my time on thinking of this plotpoint and that, so just write whatever."
The writers: "But there should be a logical rea-"
Bay: "Dew it."
I was really sad because i liked Ratchet in Transformors Prime
Just so so so appropriate
Syndrome: When everything is funny, nothing is.
How bout pacific rim 2
"Hey Optimus, say hi to your mother for me."
"Some people want to destroy you but I just want to talk"
Oh you're a truck. What's that like?
'Now I'm gonna go and talk with this Megatron over here.'
Mile 21
“Martha”
keeping in mind, the way they introduce those decepticons, feels like we are supposed to know them from before. In suicide squad, we know each of those villains, so it makes sense for them to each have their special intro.
Bumblebee: is a young bot
Also him: has the voice of a British 70 year old
he sounds like a old man and I am like, "He is young for an Autobot why just why." Half the time I think Michal Bay forgot bumblebee was young
They fixed that problem in the Last Knight and Bumblebee
@@NCTStudio 🤦🏾♂️ he never had his own voice back in the last 4 films
@@MountainBearOfTheDew 🤦🏾♂️he had his voice in the bumblebee movie
@@paintbarrel yeah, so?
The writing room must have been filled with "Dude, what if-" moments.
So glad I stopped watching this franchise after the third Transformers film.
Same bro. 2 and the half hours of CGI and Explosions make me puke from headache
Same. I was the run time on the 4th one and was really put off.
@@benvonerdvana2296 the CGI isnt the problem
Damm your lucky
You're wise doing that
It amazes me how Michael Bay thought this was OK. Optimus is shown in a picture fighting a war in his transformers 3 form (check his stomach). Even though he only arrived on earth in 2007. And he had a different form in that movie.
Watching this video, I repeatedly had moments of: "I swear I saw this movie", followed by: "I remember nothing about this scene", then "oh yeah, I def saw that". It just shows how remarkably unmemorable this film was. The entire movie is a giant "shrug" but then again, I felt the franchise nose dove after the first one and even the first one was kinda garbage but it was different and fresh at the time so it was fun.
The bigger problem is that I felt the same but I didn't watch that movie...
Better than ur music taste
First three movies were good.
@@ltb1345 I respectfully disagree.The first one was a spectacle for sure and a new flavour of one at that but beyond that I haven't felt a single one has been very good.
The problem with the first movie:
*S E X U A L C O N T E N T*
While we all know how bad these films can get at times, I think we can all agree on one thing:
The musical score is awesome
Also the cgi and Optimus’s lines are great
If there’s one thing that I can say that I liked about The Last Knight besides the visual effects and explosive action, it’s gotta be the toyline.
Lol
Well, that means the movie accomplished its main purpose then.
Same.
And Steve Jablonsky's fifth amazing Transformers score in a row.
one of my biggest gripes of the movie is how michael bay tried to “modernize” the transformers design. the original cartoons had bright colors and striking designs made to clearly distinguish between characters and clear cut fight scenes. these movies just make them all grey CG abominations where you can’t even tell which is which in a fight
Thank you
"If ADHD had manifested a physical form."
Isn't that just Michael Bay?
Its also JJ Abrams.
@@NexusKin How?
@@Gadget-Walkmen Most of his movies feel like the pace is very fast with not enough time for the characters to have some breathing room.
@@NexusKin that’s just fast paced movies and there’s nothing inherently wrong about that unless if it’s done badly. It could be done in a great way.
@@Gadget-Walkmen The plots for his movies also seem very dumbed-down and convenient, so the characters never actually seem to figure anything out for themselves. Instead, everything is just easy and laid out for them each time.
LMAO! That "Martha" caught me completely off-guard!🤣🤣
Martha is now an iconic scene
13:08 which is especially wild to me because MB made a whole big deal about how he has a writers room with like 14 writers specifically to keep track of the continuity and lore for the movies.
well he does but doesn't mean he focuses on it. He is aware of how shit it is going to be but either doesn't care or cuts it out for other stuff.
Guys you wouldn't know filmento's girlfriend, she just goes to another school
That’s just cold man.
Yeah, preschool 😎😎😎🤪
Technoblade and homeless Dream reference?
@@b3nl555 *Oh.... Oh no....*
@@synergyxkenjilee479 Not everything is a reference to your cheating minecraft god. Sorry buddy.
"We have 14 great writers"
Press x to doubt
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i don't know why i pressed x so many times,because i have no doubt.
i'm pretty sure this is a lie.
(Un)Funfact: The US is practically a police state in the film, while Cuba is the land of the free.
And the Autobots hide at the Pine Ridge Sioux Reservation. A Native American Reservation located in South Dakota and is the poorest Reservations.
In a series about alien car robots that’s the least realistic thing
The US is practically a police state in real life too
@@Moakmeister You don’t even know what a police state is
But isn't that true lol? Like look at UN, Nato and who is in charge of em all?
4:40 when I went to go see this with my father we thought we were in the wrong theater and nearly left just before the transformers showed up on screen.
IMFAOOOOO
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 we were checking the movies playing. We realized it had to be because literally nothing else was playing at that specific time.
Basically, Michael Bay is that old dude trying to be "hip with the kids" too hard.
And to think Michael Bay roped in Sir Anthony Hopkins into this. GOD DAMN!
His role as Odin in the Thor films had more dignity than this.
Stop it. Hopkins praised Bay and said he loved working with him. If you watched the movie, you saw also how fun he had playing this role. He is an award winning actor played so many tough roles in his life span, why can’t he have fun late in his career? Is there an contract which states that well known actors can’t be in fun blockbuster movies?! The Transformers franchise has brought in nearly 5 billion at the global box office, Bay is also one of the most profitable filmmakers ever. Even if you don’t like it, doesn’t mean most others does as well, as proven by the large fanbase and extreme amount of money these movies have gotten.
@@believer4002 stop it. Hopkins stopped caring long ago. He didn't know he'd be having fun before he signed on, just what kind of pay he'd get. And popularity isn't always a sign of quality
@@believer4002 The Last Knight became the lowest grossing film in the Michael Bay Transformers franchise. There's a reason why Paramount wanted to do something else with the franchise when they worked on Bumblebee.
@@michaelstrong5383 still made over 600$ mill globally. But ofc I get that people stopped coming for this one. Who could expect a fifth movie about transforming robots directed by one of the most controversial directors causing fatigue? Young audience gets tired quick and want something else. People got tired of Transformers, what’s the problem? Two of the movies in the franchise brought over 1 billion dollars and are on top30 most grossed movies of all time. You can call every single person who spent money on this franchise a dumb person, but I’m sure you also spent some bucks on this. It is so popular to hop on the «hate-bandwagon» and be part of the «flow» when you hate big movies. I especially hate people criticizing without having seen it, or seeing it on a crappy illegal site. This should be experienced on the biggest theatre possible.
The transformers films should have just ended after dark of the moon
It did 😐
@@Antwannnn it didnt
I'm glad people still remember the Xbox 360 avatar images
You what it should have been better? If Michael Bay didn't direct the first Transformers movie in the first place, it could've been better.
Could be
13:45 I find it funny that he talks about the audience getting pulled out of the experience while at the same time he pulls us out of the video by announcing a sponsorship, he probably did it on purpose though.
3:53 was that the fucking Library from Halo? Jesus, don't give me a panic attack
Seriously I had a fucking heart attack
Had ODST music at the very beginning as well
Rip Jazz, we must never forget.
Why? everyone else did.
Yes!
HIS LIFE MATTERED
JLM
Who tf jazz
@@jjizzle6923 You're not into Transformers are you?
SIR Anthony Hopkins says “yes, but you wanna know don’t ya, duuuude.” in this movie. It’s fucking bizarre and I’m surprised they convinced him to say all the shit his character does.
I remember seeing it in a trailer and just being super fucking weirded out by it it's just... why? Throughout the movie he doesn't seem like the kinda guy who would call people dude at all it's so out of place. That being said he had the best performance in this movie. He always seemed like he was having a lot of fun with it which is always nice :)
GIANT BAGS OF MONEY! It is the only way this makes any sense that he is in this abortion of a movie. So glad I missed this one and the others after the first.
9:40
"you've gotta be kidding me!"
"yeah. i am. you're not getting a home."
On one side, yes!
On the other hand, I like how everyone honestly interacts like we would in real life in these situations as opposed to "hyper formulaic, everyone has a particular purpose and caricature to play to feed into the plot & protag".
In the end, Bay didn't want to work on more Transformers, and clearly Paramount wasn't gonna take no nor change leads for whatever reason. If anything, Bay helped show what's wrong with Hollywood.
True
They should've let him stop at the third movie, like he wanted to.
@@g.d.graham2446 Wrong. He's still responsible. He's an A list director and producent, even if a movie studio (Paramount) or a toy company (Hasbro) force him to make a film he doesn't want, he's still obliged to comply and make it the best way he can. Doing shit on purpose just shows, how he as a person doesn't care anymore and what a joke as a director and producer he became. Imagine you're working in a big company and your boss comes with a new product, that you don't like. Would you purposely sabotage it? No, it wouldn't be ethical. You'de still end up doing your best to make a product the best way you can, even if you personally don't like it.
"You speak now!?"
"Yes, but actually no."
"You speak now?"
"He speaks now!"
"...He speaks now..."
It’s a shame bay is devolving his films first transformers was pretty damn good film 2nd film glaring issues DSoTM was decent and 4th 5th were just why
I mean, even Bay himself didn't want to do more after the 1st one. Yet Paramount and Hasbro begged him to come back to get those big bucks in again
@@chadderbug7587 And that was a mistake because the movies got worse and worse as they went on, ROTF should of been delayed to get pass the writers strike but its obvious the people writting the scripts simply do not care about the property one bit and are only in it for the money, there are far better fan stop motion films out there but the offical stuff, I think has gone downhill after the Prime series, its pretty much Hasbro saying "Here is a bunch of new figures based on Transformers, give us your money and shut up!"
I think that it should stop at one movie
It’s just DotM. DSotM is a Pink Floyd album.
@@jacksondavies3595 yeah i keep forgetting lol
I don’t think you can blame MB entirely for these flaws. I’m fairly certain that the Transformer Franchise Writers Room consists of 4-6 eight year old boys playing with some actual Transformer toys, with two adults in the room. One to run interference when the inevitable fights break out when one boy decides his Autobot just killed a Decepticon and the other protests No He Didn’t (Yes He Did, No He Didn’t, bwah, bwah , BWAHHH etc) and the other to transcribe everything, verbatim.
Then they just slap a title on it, call it a Shooting Script and ship it to MB.
we all know that this is an elongated commercial, right?
Also the new love interest is basically just British Megan Fox
Wait really
But elongated commercials can be good, you see.
One could argue that the whole MCU was just a series of elongated commercials to Infinity War... And to all merchandise with the Marvel brand slapped on it...
@@DonVigaDeFierro yes, but as nerdstalgic put it, this isnt how you make a movie. this is how you make a commercial. Some marvel movies put being a movie before being a commercial, while others just set up infinity war first, and then build a (normally weak) plot after that
But so was the Lego movie
10 minutes into this video, I actually realized that I HAVE seen this movie. Though I hadn’t. Didn’t remember it. And it took 10 minutes of this video for me to remember I have seen it...
ME TOOOOOO
I wonder how i managed to watch this movie being sober:) . But there is so much shit going there, you cannot fix holes in the story with anything though.
this
Thats some nice choice of words.. yes i too can remember the first three movies vividly ..they had memorable scenes.. well these new ones cant say which one i am watching... The china dinosaur ones or the horns poking out ones or bumblebee vs optimus ones
I can barely remember what happened in it-something about Unicron being the earth? And horrible aspect ratios?
“MARTHA!”
“Bumblebee...”
18:17 guy at the studio: So how many cameras do you want for one scene Michael Bay: yes
Am I the only one who didn’t notice Merlin is played by Stanley Tucci
Me too
thought i recognized him....
The Transformers franchise ended for me when i fall asleep during the 3rd movie big fight scene.
I distinctly remember almost falling asleep a few times when watching this movie in theaters.
I've NEVER felt drowsy when watching a movie in theaters before or after.
12:13 this kinda begs the question. Why would a Decepticon rob a bank that stores HUMAN money? I honestly expected an oil rig, a power plant, a water dam, or a missile silo to be a Decepticon's target, because energy and fuel to convert into Energon, which is the lifeblood of ALL Cybertronians, and Decepticons are greedy? A missile silo is practically free real estate since they can stockpile on weapons and payloads. But a goddamn bank...?
Because stupid. 😑
Might be just for fun? Honestly just look at Mohawk, he looks, like he's got a few loose screws in his head, he'd definitely do anything to piss off human authorities, just for the fun of it. Not everything has to have a valid reason.
As a kid i loved the franchise, and seeing it become the clusterfck it has become is.... quite the ride
Couldn’t agree more. ILM’s work is the only reason I watch them occasionally. The rest is just awful.
I was wondering when this video would come out! 🤣
“Look at that arm, that arm is like... bigger than rocks!” -Michael Bay, billionaire filmmaker
Bigger than *The Rock's*
So he can’t be a normal everyday man saying funny things when he is a billionare filmmaker? Tell me then, «Miles». How is an billionare filmmaker supposed to act at his own house while filming funny stuff for his own Instagram?
@@believer4002 lmao, chill, I didn’t realize he meant dwayne the rock’s arms. I thought he said that the arm is bigger than rocks.. like earth rocks. I was pointing out that it would be hilarious if this super-successful dude described an arm as “bigger than rocks” cuz that makes no god damn sense
@@mileskenney3520 well you should’ve thought for more than 2 sec, then. Everybody made that connection that it was The rock. They worked together on «Pain and Gain» together as well. I just thought you made an insulting comment towards Bay just to get likes, I’m tired of ppl like that.
@@believer4002 are you really this upset?? Please calm down, I didn’t mean to upset you and your fav director Michael bay. I literally just commented what I thought was funny, I wasn’t being serious at all. Oh, and sorry I didn’t remember the LEGENDARY movie Pain and Gain, how utterly foolish of me 😂😂🥱
Oh my, the Sound Effects on this video made me laugh, specially the ones where South Park's Michael Bay face shows up, it's almost like the mixture of "oof" and "bruh"!
For me this is very sad... I first fell in love with the first Transformers movie. A realistic, crude and well executed action movie. Since then... downhill with no brakes.
The first Transformers movie is a masterpiece compared to the rest
To be honest
That first one may have some pretty bad acting, but atleast it did a great job to make the transformers into live action
Indeed
The TF Movie from 1986 was the B E S T.
All are masterpieces
Tho my fav is dark of the moon , i agree
"Anatomy of a failure" on transformers is better franchise than transformers itself
My favorite part was when Optimus Prime says “It’s prime’in time” before he primed all over Megatron. Truly one of the movies of all time.
Gotta love that prime
That "I was making the moment more... epic" scene would have been funny if the entire movie wasn't filled with unnecessary jokes
6:47 I think the fact that she could run across THOSE cobblestones in THOSE heels is really more impressive than driving. Good points all mate!
The organ joke with the butler bot was the only "joke" I laughed at in the movie
The butler is my only highlight
He just wanted to make it more... epic.
Cogman is the only character in this movie with a personality.
Robo-Butler~
@@shawerful5209 Shame that they completely ignored him being a Headmaster. He was supposed to decapitate Nitro Zeus at some point and take over his body, but they dropped that concept somewhere during development (late enough for the old design and gimmick to make it into the toy).
With a name such as Michael bay, it’s kinda obvious where the movie will end up. Down and buried below the bay
Oh yah
Songbird
He was just a producer still
Here's a idea, Michael Bay should make movie with real-life Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner. It would be only visual action with goofy jokes as Mike does and narration of David Attenborough.
It would be most action packed nature documentary of all time.
down by the bay where the watermelons grow
HE DIDN'T WRITE THE MOVIE.
8:00 I may be only 18 but I think that made the moment even better because it showed that Cogman and... the British guy had a deep emotional relationship even if it was covered with sarcasm, formality and harsh words. Yes, it's kinda funny and detracts from the somberness of the moment but instead makes it bittersweet. This Transformer that served the old man's family for generations respects most the humblest of the lineage, the one that lived for but a singular moment. And Cogman, dropping all formalities, expresses his respect to the corpse of the man. I liked that.