When Hollywood Made Two Movies About Saving the White House
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2022
- In 2013 we got two pretty identical movies. The White House is in trouble and it's up to a lone wolf to stop the bad guys. Both of these movies were met with mixed reception and were forgotten about. But I want to talk about them for some reason.
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Never having seen either film I always remembered them as "The White House Has Fallen"
Of course, "Olympus Down" is the far superior film
"One man on a mission to save the country he was betrayed by" Special Agent Simmons
@@bryanmanuel4945 That man was a legend
@@Tgungen A true American hero. Even when he was betrayed by his country he chose to still fight for it
Who can blame ya
"Olympus down" sounds like a super hero with down syndrome
Imagine if in February 2013 the white house actually did get attacked like that and both studios had to awkwardly scramble to cancel the movies
If someone has a timemachine this would be a worthwhile use for it.
Wrong channel i think
@@lamecasuelas2 what do you mean?
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 Alternate History Hub
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 well, if i'm not mistake he has another channel dedicarles to alternate history
You know the worst thing is: I gaslighted myself thinking "White House Down" was the only movie, despite actually going to theaters to see "Olympus Has Fallen". Like, the first time I watched "White House Down" I was like, "Hey, where are the Koreans? Aren't they in this movie?" Oh my God.
Please tell me you didn't say that sentence out loud
I watched the movie with my dad at home and thought it was Whitehouse down, I saw Morgan freeman on an Olympus has fallen cover and thought it was a brand new movie becuase I didn't remember what his role was and forgot he was in the movie. I remember wanting to go and watch it and until today didn't know I had actually seen Olympus has fallen.
If i didn't watched this video i would've still believe "white house down" was "olympus has fallen", with that being said i have to watch the latter since now i realized i never did
It also happened years ago with a movie about a martial arts tournament, the movie i watched had a scene with the friend of the protagonist being cut in half "kung lao fatality style" with a sword and died, but months later i watched a movie really similar with same actors and all that thinking i was watching the same movie, but after the friend lost the fight the protagonist goes to visit him to a hospital and blew my mind(almost literally)
The dude was cut in half like a pork in a butcher shop, and he ends up in a hospital??? wtf is this? mortal kombat/adult swim parody?!
It felt like being in an altered timeline like back to the future
For a while I genuinely thought "London Has Fallen" was a weird sequel of "White House Down". I literally only remember a guy and the white house in it and watching the sequel I was like "Yep, that checks out"
@@GarkKahn lol I know what the second movie that you’re talking about is. It was “Bloodsport”. Was pretty good, but the acting was pretty corny. But that’s pretty much any 80s movie. Not sure what the first movie that you’re talking about is tho with the guy getting cut in half.
5:49 I like this, actually. A pretty realistic take where a rational adult doesn’t randomly blame tragedy on some guy, but instead just wants that guy to go away to not constantly remind him of what happened
I mean, it’d be a real dick move if he did :P. “My wife died, you’re to blame even though nothing could be done. Demoted :P.”
Yeah. It was honestly a more realistic trauma response than you usually see in a movie like that. Its Mike who blames himself. Ben knows he did everything he could but...he just cant have him there.
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Fun fact: prince of egypt was supposed to be DreamWorks first movie but then they heard Disney was making bug's life and so they made Antz out of spite.
Chad Behavior
I LOVE Antz!! Lol😅
@@danielnepveux97Ethose pesky thermite
Sylvester Stallone says the word “ass” in Antz🤫🙈☺️tee hee hee hee.
Considering Lord Farquaad is based off a Disney executive I'm not surprised.
I remember watching Olympus has fallen in highschool and trying to describe the movie to my friends and they were saying that I was talking about White house down. It was a really confusing moment.
Sounds comical lol
Up until this moment in time I was kinda confused and just shrugged it off as whatever. Same movie. Meh. But no, there was two!
😂God
MANDELA EFFECTS
The massive head scratching and name calling lmao😂
You gotta love how the koreans were used as a stand-in badguys for the chinese because they still also wanted to sell this movie in china
Also north korea tensions?
Then social media turds went racist against Asians just because of the movie...
Unfortunately we’ll never let go of them. They’ve ruined too many movies
Gotta love American propaganda
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I want to see someone edit these two movies together the best they can and try and show it to an audiance to see how long it would take for people to realize its two movies edited together.
Cinemasins once sinned them both at the same time as a joke once.
that would be a very fast realization because one president is locked in a bunker knowing nuclear codes
and the other guy who is not obama at all and doesn't want children bombarded is joyriding and firing rocket launchers
and last time anyone checked america has only one president at a time
Every now and then I think the footage was shown side by side and then flipped, and I couldn't tell which movie was which
In 2017, my mom was watching “Olympus Has Fallen” on tv and when I came into the room, she told me “The North Koreans took over the White House” with no context and a serious face. So since I was incredibly gullible, I thought this was actually happening and I just felt my heart drop. Then my mom explained it was just a movie, but I always remember this moment whenever I hear about the movie
Don't worry, Leonidas of Sparta saved us
LOL
War of the Worlds moment.
"Top Gun's sequel broke a billion, simply by being not Marvel"
He's out of line, but he's right.
*Mickey will remember that...*
The mouse won't be happy about that
When’s Mahvel
#MaverickSweep
Same situation with Matt Reeve's The Batman 😂
I like how the villains plan was to blow up the entire middle east so that no American soldiers would die again, completely disregarding all the American troops he would blow up that were in the middle east at the time
Plus the fall-out from the exchange blanketing the world in a nuclear winter, and, possibly causing Russia and China to launch all their nukes at America and each other.
Military industrial complex moment
It's been a bit since I rewatched it (and I didn't exactly watch it for the plot), but wasn't the catalyst for the bad guy's plan that President Jaime Foxx was pulling American troops out of the region?
Yeah and i guess the hundreds of millions of people too
@@electricbayonet2 Think so
I’m actually a huge fan of the “Has Fallen” series. I think the movies actually get better as they go along. London feels a bit like a here we go again story, but Angel is really interesting imo.
Yall love saying "OMG HERE WE GO AGAAAAIN🙄" While me who doesn't have to criticize EVERYTHING saw London has fallen and said "Here we go again and I fkn loved it BRING MORE OF THIS"
@@BESTMOAD I said I’m a huge fan already bro, also see that “imo” that means you are free to have your own.🙃
@@BESTMOADWhat an overreaction.
@@chao5996 an opinion can't be an overreaction
@@SuperBubbles24 yes I am allowed to have an opinion and I gave it 🙂
I shall forever remember the Roger Ebert review of White House Down, one of his very last ones, where he lambasted the movie and thought all the characters are "stupid, ignorant or clinically insane".
I remember I went to see Olympus has Fallen in theaters with my dad and enjoyed it. Then not long after saw White House Down in theaters with my sister and remember thinking the entire time this is literally just action comedy version of Olympus. I kind of enjoyed both movies but I don’t think my dad and sister are even aware to this day of the other movie they didn’t see lol.
Olympus has fallen is a freaking masterpiece of filmmaking compared to White House down. Even not compared to it Olympus has fallen is still a very good action movie.
i recently saw white house down and it's so bad that you can't even enjoy it for what it is. Some movies are just popcorn and you turn your brain off and have a good time, well not with white house down. Terrible movie, waste of potential, waste of good actors (Jamie Foxx) and atrocious cgi. I fking hated it.
One had a white hero. The other had a black hero.
@@neglectfulsausage7689 you're kidding right
@@movieman175 What, you mad you're blind?
When I was a kid I assumed these movies were much better than they actually were because I thought they were the same movie and kept hearing about it on TV and stuff after hearing about the first one
These type of films always make my mind make a lost movie which is just an amalgamation of the two
@Kurtis NO
Like how everyone conflates Deep Impact and Armageddon because they are almost entirely the same movie?
@Kurtis Seriously, who keeps liking these bot comments?
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Other bots I believe.
Let's not forget that in June 2021, a Japanese fighting game, Guilty Gear Strive, had its main MC protecting the U.S. president after the entire Secret Service got killed by a wizard not wearing a shirt.
Sorry but Sol Bad Guy is a nice guy that protects Cin and his beloved Justice
I don't know which is more comedic about Olympus Has Fallen: the fact that a hijacked AC-130 got within a hundred miles of DC without getting vaporized by the entire US Air Force or the fact that hundreds of secret service agents threw themselves at a minigun that was firing nonstop at the front doors.
What about the indestructible podium. We need that material science.
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You do realize they warned them than got killed right 2nd of all we enough artilery you could kill thousands of armed indiviuduals
‘Entire airforce within 100 miles of DC’ what happened on 9/11 that nullified a trillion dollar defence system then?
The US has the best air defence in the world but why didn’t it work the only time it was needed?
@@davoROC 9/11 has been THE turning point. Before that flying secyrity was much, much more relaxed. In the 1980's you could even smoke aboard some planes, the pilot compartment was not separared from the rest of the plane (passengers could enter) and security checks in airports were borderline nonexistent. Nobody ever seriously thought about the possibility that a plane could be hijacked and used for a terror attack of that scale. The military was completely caught by surprise.
Nowdays, if a plane even shortly diverges from its path, fighter jets immediately fly to intercept it. It happened just 3 or 4 years ago here in europe. There's no chance whatsoever that a plane could even think about getting close to the white house without getting blown to smithereens.
I can say with confidence that London has fallen and Angel has fallen were both great movies tbh
And even funnier, they are both based off of the same book. It is called "Transfer of Power" and it is by Vince Flynn. It definitely follows Olympus's storyline more than white house down, and it is actually pretty good. I reccomend.
Who are the villains in the book?
@@SIGNOR-G it was written during the war on terror, so its a group of terrorists. It's a pretty good read! It's more realistic than the movies though, because the author met with former secret service agents and former SEALs so he could get the combat scenes right.
@@Krag-Jorgensen30-40 thats very interesting. Im gonna give it a read just to see how the author describes the hand to hand combat.
I'm not sure where you had gotten your information from, but there is nothing anywhere stating that either film is based upon Vince Flynn's book, although the movie American Assassin (2017) is an adaptation of his book of the same name. Here are parts of some articles that you might be being confused with -
1, "In a radio interview on the Hugh Hewitt show on February 6, 2009, Vince Flynn disclosed that he has signed a movie deal for this book to be the first of the Mitch Rapp books to make it to the big screen. The screenplay was written by Jonathan Lemkin but it has not yet been picked up by a studio. On January 1, 2010, Variety announced that Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, Shooter, Olympus Has Fallen) would direct a planned adaptation of Consent to Kill for CBS Films with Lorenzo DiBonaventura and Nick Wechsler producing."
"Though CBS Films has expressed interest in Gerard Butler, Colin Farrell and Matthew Fox as possible candidates for Mitch Rapp Teen Wolf alum Dylan O'Brien subsequently won the part by 2016 for the movie adaptation of American Assassin."
2, "CBS Films acquired the rights to Flynn's book series in 2008. The New York Times bestseller Consent to Kill was intended to be the first film in a proposed series. Consent to Kill was scheduled to be produced by Lorenzo di Bonaventura and Nick Wechsler; the screenplay was written by Jonathan Lemkin. The studio's last few films had performed poorly, causing them to delay the film's production. Antoine Fuqua was originally attached to direct, with names being rumored to play Mitch Rapp including Gerard Butler, Colin Farrell and Matthew Fox. However, being a prequel novel, American Assassin provided the opportunity to start at the very beginning of the character Rapp's career instead."
"Jeffrey Nachmanoff replaced Ed Zwick as director on February 12, 2012. At the time, Zwick was also writing the script with Marshall Herskovitz, but another draft was written by Mike Finch in October 2012. A further director and screenwriter change took place with Michael Cuesta and Stephen Schiff, respectively, on board as of March 2016."
"Production needed to start by April 30, 2016, or the rights to the film would have reverted to the Vince Flynn Estate."
@@JJWolford have you read transfer of power. The movie is 100% inspired by the book. The plot is essentially the same as Olympus had fallen
I like to think somewhere, some Hollywood Exec watched his kid playing the US missions from MW2 and just decided, "Shit I can make a movie out of this" and then lo and behold this happened
You know wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened.
I think white house down was a winning spec script from a black list contest, so it may have been a cheap way to get a story.
NGL, I’d say there’s a high probability of that with how lazy Hollywood execs can be. They just have to see that ending flare and go, “alright, that’s my next movie”.
I like to think it happened twice, exactly the same way
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Schaffrillias will gladly disagree tho
@@PunishedKrab his opinion is complete and utter garbage
@@PunishedKrab so no one with valid opinions.
@@PunishedKrab People can be wrong sometimes 😔
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5:40 got me
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13:55 what makes it even sillier is, nukes are SUPPOSED to be detonated in mid-air...if you detonate them on impact, the blast radius is much smaller, so for maximum damage you WANT to set them off well before they land
Not to mention mid-air detonation allows for fallout radiation to be carried further out. Which could be either a good or a bad thing, depending on the goal.
Angel has fallen actually had an interesting running theme that Butler’s character was physically and psychologically damaged from the events of the first two films.
They took the invincible action hero trope and were like “no, this man is broken and tired and it’s immoral to keep expecting him to perform”
Kinda like in the Die Hard movies. Especially die hard with a vengeance
Interesting twist
you know this trilogy was actually just Morgan Freeman's ASCENSION to SUPREME LORD of the USA right ??? man literally went from secretary of state (3rd in command) to VP (2nd in command) and to ACTUAL PREZ (first in command) throughout the course of the films ~ not sure if it was a subtle Obama promotion or whatever but I guess some people like it :O
@@Noizemaze4 I like Morgan Freeman, I don't like Obama. One is way more charismatic.
Like Max Payne?
White House Down at the very least has a pretty funny scene where the President is trying to shoot out the tires of a pursuing vehicle and is missing badly.
Be then puts on his glasses, tries again, and has perfect aim.
It's a genuinely well done comedic moment.
I literally remember nothing else.
Something with the presidents jordans was funny i think
the only scenes that i remembered from WHD is any scene involving the president going offensive. always the best part of the movie
One of the best parts when he turns on the tv in the limousine to see what’s going on outside the car and it’s playing a zombie movie and he screams turn it off because he thinks it’s real
When he lost the rocket launcher
One of the best parts is when I turned off the movie. Truly a good scene.
For the longest time I felt like I was the only one who noticed these two films being super similar.
Well, you aren't special; everyone noticed. Literally.
I can ignore the hijacked AC130 getting into DC but I also have a hard time believing that all those people shot by it's cannons just have getting a smallish bloody hole in them and fall down. People being shot with sometimes MULTIPLE 25mm round feels like it cause them to almost totally liquefy instead.
The biggest element of fantasy for me is that anybody would actually care about politicians dying. If I was at The White House when terrorists attack, the last thing I would do is protect a politician. I'd grab a sandwich and head out.
Olympus will always hold a spot in my heart. Took my college girlfriend to see it in theaters and I thought she would end up hating it because it was a dumb violent action movie. Credits start to roll and she turns to me and says “I thought it was fantastic”. Today is our seventh wedding anniversary.
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This has major Reddit energy. I was almost expecting the whole "we have 45 and half kids and a pet leopard". Congrats anyway lol.
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She sounds like a keeper for sure! Congrats bro!
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The White House down ending was so fucking absurd, when the girl goes out waving the American flag I laughed way to much. I don’t get how people or the actress were able to film that without cringing to death.
Yes to call off the airstrike!
She waved the flag of the US President, and it was to wave off the pilots before they were about to bomb the White House. I’m not sure where you saw the American flag there 💀
@@Justin_GFM man🙃 you truly think I was paying detailed attention at that point in that trash of a movie and me as a proud non unitedstatian know how the US presidential flag looks like? 👻
@@rojayreid908 you know it worked for modern warfare 2 because green smoke and flares are typically used in the military to mark friendly units and buildings I’m sorry but if I was a pilot and I saw just a little girl waving an American flag outside I’ll try not to hit the child but I’m still glassing my target unless given specific orders not to
@@Linki8uu you have to hit the child because if you fire the squad would see and fire their missiles too.
Iron Eagle and Iron Eagle 2 were my jam as a kid. When he threw that cassette tape in his Walkman you just knew that not only was shit about to get wild, it would also have the perfect generic 80’s rock soundtrack. My eyes still moisten just thinking of “Chappyyyyy!!!!!” scene. Those movies rule and I know I’m not alone. There are dozens of us.
Eyyyy!
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The "Buzz look an Alien" made me laugh for longer than it should have. It was implemented perfectly.
Part of me wishes the "Has Fallen" series keeps going with increasingly ludicrous stakes with each sequel culminating to "America has Fallen" which takes place during an alien invasion
“The world has fallen.”
"Milky way galaxy has fallen"
I mean the title “Night has fallen” does have ominous tones. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a Designated survivor situation
@@toxiccorgi2108 "The Virgo Supercluster has Fallen" because they don't want to do the universe quite yet.
There making more ….has fallen is getting sequel so , u never know
I just want to point out that the president in Olympus has Fallen never gave the code. Only the other executives gave up their codes in exchange for their lives. The villains cracked the president's code. The president was like "it's okay, they'll never take my code over my dead body" the villains be like "alright we cracked the code base on those other codes"
If you think about it, it should be pretty easy to brute force 3 codes because each code was just 7 characters from A-Z and 0-9. Heck I remembered even the Cerberus disable code is longer and actually has special characters in it
To be fair, they only gave up their codes because the President ordered them to.
They were willing to die and were tortured, but the president told them to give up their codes because he could take listening to them be tortured.
That’s 36 possible characters for 7 spaces. For simpler math we are going to allow repeating characters in the code, giving us 36^7 options for each individual code or 78,364,164,096 different codes for a single person.
Now if we can get a computer to run 1 million attempts per second it would take a maximum of 21.77 hours to crack a single code. To do it for all 3 codes, that’s a max time of 3.72 days. I think the system would just shut down at that point.
But to the movie, how someone would be able to get the 3rd code based off the first 2 in a much shorter amount of time is beyond me. It’s not like there would be a pattern between the 3 codes. That wouldn’t make sense from a security standpoint.
@@Tall_dark_and_handsome possibly the opposite? "we can eliminate certain combinations based on these codes" which while is significantly more combinations then "we can piece these codes together" should significantly cut out a ton of combinations, especially if the codes can have no repeating numbers/letters (ie if one code has "p5" somewhere in it, "p5" can not be used again. still unbelievable but less unbelievable
Was going to say the same thing. Thanks.
I still remember when I was 14 and my dad and I picked up both of these movies in some Walmart CD bargain bin. They were advertised as a package deal and my dad was laughing as we left the store and after watching the movies I understood why. Olympus was definitely the better movie by far.
I’m not ashamed to say Olympus has Fallen is genuinely my favorite movie of all time
@Antonio Gramsci 😂
Then you've barely seen any movies
A guilty pleasure for sure. Retribution is immensely satisfying
@@Antonio-GransciIt’s a good movie
Then you’re probably American
The one thing I remember vividly from "Olympus has fallen" for whatever reason is when the protag is trying to input the code to disable cerberus, and the guy telling him the code says "hashtag" as the last symbol and protag is confused as hell for a moment. Imagine the entire united states being nuked because some guy was out of touch with what a symbol is called.
The only thing I remember is Melissa Leo's "I pledge alliegance to the flag" while being dragged away and the movie acting like it was supposed to be taken seriously.
I mean, the protag probably lived during the time it was called a hash instead of hashtag.
It was called a pound sign before Twitter.
In my country the hashtag was referred to as "the ladder" up until a few years back
I swear, I'd be laughing if it turns out that those codes happen to be the exact ones used for the White House....
The first thing they nail is the name itself. the name "Olympus has fallen" definitely sounds more impactful and mythical than just white house down. When a building that houses the leader of a powerful nation is compared to the home of the Olympian gods has fallen to the terrorist's hand, you know shits are about to get down.
Well Olympus is the actual codeword used for the White House.
They heard 'Blackhawk Down' and just figured that's how all government and military would say stuff.
But 'White House' would likely have a Code Name, like the President does, like SOOOOOO many things do. So it makes the 'Olympus has fallen' more accurate than 'White House Down'... purely in terms of what might be sent out over a transmission by the Government.
I think they figured a lot of people liked Blackhawk Down and this would stick in people's mind. Which is understandable. But 'Military People' are a small set of the American Population... as are 'Government People'. This is a Summer Blockbuster, you want ALL the people in the seats. So they actually went 0-2 on this, since "Olympus has fallen" is likely more accurate to this situation, AND has the "Olympus" reference to pull in the casual type. It turns out the ONLY group they really targeted was the 'Not Government or Military, but likes that kind of stuff' crowd that wouldn't know how codes and terms are applied. The way they named the movie only really reached the smallest group possible.
Grammar Correction: "shit is about to go down"
The way that you put it, it sounds more like an enlarged ego. As if the president could be compared to a Greek mythical god. Typical American way of thinking.
And you know how great the security is 😂
I cannot express enough how much I appreciate your use of Toy Story 2 PS1 music in the background at times. Nostalgic AF
There's a pretty obvious explanation for how different the two movies feel to be fair. One was written to be your typical summer blockbuster schlock that you can take the whole family to see and the other was a bloody profane affai
Stan Lee talked about the "Twin" issue in the comic world, first many of the workers switch between the different companies.
Also many of them are friends and go to the same hangout spots, where they swap stories and come up with ideas together.
So when they went back to the pitch tables many of those ideas would come up, and such are picked up and used in both places.
That’s funny u said that, for years I’ve known about this with comics, as I’ve explained to ppl when they say “marvel stole so and so and made a fake one or DC stole so and so..” and I told them most of the time back then these guys like jack kirby didn’t get paid much so they worked for both companies, alotta times just writing the same characters mirrored with different names to make a living never knowing just how popular they would become
@@teezwilliams22 I'll have to find it again, but if I recall right it was part of the extras on the Animated Fan 4 DVDs.
To be fair some were blatant copies of a concept one passed on, after the other company picked up. So your aren't entirely wrong.
Joe Simon and Jack Kirby created the same character 3 times. Captain America, Fighting American, and Guardian.
@@teezwilliams22It makes comics easier to read when you know that on each side, you have the same character waiting for you to pick up. Occasionally it depends on how popular they are
The separate creators of both Man-Thing and Swamp Thing were college roommates
I think Roland Emmerich is one of those directors who had some huge success early in his career and decided that he was awesome and just refused to learn and grow. So he never takes criticism or recognize his own mistakes and weaknesses, and just continues doing the same things over and over again.
Hey, you basically summed him up perfectly.
No better proof of that than Godzilla 98. Dude put cartoonish versions of Siskel and Ebert into the movie because they didn't like his movies and even then Siskel and Ebert were like "come on man, if you're going to go to that much trouble to mock us, you could've at least had Godzilla kill us"
He could never understand that his power would be fleeting as technology began to be better understood, and essentially has been trying to chase the success of Independence Day for 90% of his films, having worked a bit early on but quickly puttered out by the time 2012 came around. Now it's so bad that even lowest common denominator hopes couldn't say Moonfall from being one of the biggest box office bombs of all time. It's one thing to fail with something experimental or not known to draw big audiences, it's another thing to do so when your concept should be primed for even the most undemanding of viewers.
And people keep giving him money for some godforsaken reason.
The only movies by him that I'd consider being anywhere near good were "The 13th Floor" and "Stargate"...the rest was terrible (yes, I did not forget Independence Day...especially Independence Day)
5:29 😂😂😂💯💯💯 that fucking scary movie ref got me, im still laughing
Another funny fact about these films: if you combine both castings, you end up with the one of Nolan's TDK.
Although if Rachel was Harvey's secretary and did not betrayed him for Django, he would never have given the codes
I find the Hollywood hive mind effect, where 2 unrelated movies about the same thing come out at almost the same time, to be really weird. Like deep impact and Armageddon or everything Everywhere and multiverse of madness
Yeah that's true. Both can be good or one is better than the other
Definitely, happens with all sorts of genres.
Everything Everywhere All at Once and Snooze of Madness are horrifically different in both execution and concept. One is just Dr. Strange chasing mcguffins to deal with a "baby crazy witch" and his need for female validation. And the other is an exploration on how technology impacts the average person, a rejection of nihilism, a heartfelt message on how to best resolve conflict, and a movie more blatantly and positively feminist than even Birds of Prey was.
It feels downright disrespectful to compare the sexist PoS that was multiverse of madness to the genuine masterpiece that was Everything Everywhere All at Once.
they steal ideas.
script gets pitched to several studios. only one can pick it up, so another hires someone to bang out an imitation script. no copyrights, because the script is unpublished. just have to avoid plagerization.
Finally it's here. *YES*
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The ultimate power move of war isn't "make peace with your enemies," it's "make sure you have nothing else to physically exist as enemies"
*BASED*
What a comforting system of destruction to live under
kid named eren yeager:
10:21 the "Buzz, look an alien!" Clip dubbed over that edited scene was comedic gold. How Woody's laugh syncs perfectly with the gunshot, oh man lol... I literally laughed out loud.
9:12 ironic because the same guy played one of the neo nazis in breaking bad lmao
The thing that confused me too, around the same time COD released a game with this exact premise in one of their campaign.
I was confused as hell seeing the White House being destroyed 3 times on 3 different occasions and thinking: 'gee, the Americans sure love destroying their presidential palace'
MW2 came out 4 years prior but close enough
@@Fadaar i think he’s talking about black ops 2
@@Mrhandyhitman oh did that have a white house level? only black ops i played was the original.
@@Fadaar no, it didn't. You don't see it, but it's implied when you're moving the president to New places
@@Mrhandyhitman that's Air Force One in Black Ops 2 that gets attacked not the White House, and it's only one mission. Has nothing to do with the story as a whole. Black Ops 1 is the Pentagon and the character you're playing as is trying to assassinate the president not protect him because the character you play as is a Sleeper Cell who's been brainwashed.
Cody: “When would it be necessary to blow up all of your nukes?”
Me: “Worked well for the Belkans in Ace Combat.”
Yo buddy, you still alive?
@Bully peter Except your dad isn't here
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7 NUKES
14:42 I wasn't expecting this entire sequence, so I laughed for like 5 minutes before I almost lost my breath. Dude, I love you.
This video is actually driving me insane. These two movies are so similar that I legitimately can’t tell the scenes or the specific details apart
Perfect time to be checking on my favorite incomprehensible rambling of pop culture events of my childhood
@Kurtis fatherless behavior
Same
I’m imagining some secretary at the White House gets a call about filming a movie where the White House is under attack and starts whatever paperwork needs done for them to film, only for five minutes later to get another call asking for the exact same thing, and just getting really confused.
🤭😅
All in a day's work eh
Hahaha
"Didn't you call already?"
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that final edit was **chefs kiss**
Actually enjoyed both "White House down" and "Olympus has fallen". I think i watched them within a year of each other and yeah, i enjoyed them.
Olympus has Fallen ended up getting a trilogy and is still one of my favorite action movies, I completely forgot White House Down was a thing. There was actually a interesting redemption story going on in Olympus has Fallen, the tone is significantly better, the takeover/invasion scene is just way better, villains are better, etc. Olympus is a much better movie and seems to have developed a very committed cult following, as I think it deserves. As for the sequels I think they’re okay, nowhere near as good as the first one but still fun.
Soon to be more than a trilogy. Part 4 is called NIGHT HAS FALLEN and somehow 2 more were being planned to follow after that.
the takeover scene in White House Down was pretty good too, considerably less chaotic but seeing the mercs brisk walk through the White House taking out guards set a sort of interesting rhythm in a way
@@TalentCaldwell considering the US Capitol Building thing happened there are tons of more real world inspiration for these movies
When these movies came out white house down was considered the better movie, but it came out second so nobody saw it.
Having said that, I recently watched white house down and its die hard. The literal ploy of die hard with minor changes
The sequels are a lot worse than White House Down. I definitely wouldn’t say this film has a “cult following”
I love "The Fallen" trilogy. Fun movies, great action. Each one with a unique take. For me they're one of those...if im flipping through the channels at night, and one is playing, im done flipping. Im watching this.
I totally agree !! I loved the second one also
The third one was wild. Pretty sure the MLRS exploding drone swarm armada isn't a real thing but imagine
There is a trilogy? HOW HAVE I JUST LEARNED THAT!?
@@screaming_cat2007 same
@@LtZerge maybe not a full swarm, but there definitely are exploding drones. They're called loitering munitions
That end gag legit made me 'spit take' my coffee. Very nice. 11/10
Imagine that White House Down was actually from an alternate timeline that somehow slipped into ours. Actually, imagine that being the idea of every twin film
Mourning for the next alternate timeline down the shit ladder that ended up with triplet films.
The only thing I remembered is that the French distributors translated "Olympus Has Fallen" as "La Chute de la Maison-Blanche"… which is the literal translation of "White House Down", so when WHD came out they had to leave the title untranslated. XD
Loooooooooool
The whole "blow up all nuclear missiles in their silos" ideas makes even less sense when you consider that NONE OF THOSE NUKES ARE ARMED. I'm pretty sure almost none of them even have their warhead attached until the order is given.
I think the idea of Project Cerberus is actually good sense, because in all likelihood they would take the reasonable path and just, you know, detonate a remote bomb on the missile itself that essentially scuttles it before it delivers its payload and allows the warhead to be safely recovered later.
I think IRL they would just deactivate the detonator mid-flight so it does not explode.
Of course the problem with being able to remotely scuttle rogue nukes IRL is that on paper 'anybody' can do it if they have sufficient capability to hack the nukes in flight and therefore completely nullify (or at least severely restrict) America's nuclear arsenal.
i mean it wouldnt make nuclear explosion but it would still fuck those silo up and make them unusable until repair are made
kinda like in the opening of Red Alert 2 where the missiles are launch with the silo closed and all that happen is that the underground facility is really fucked up no nuclear explosion
yeah, plus i'm guessing that the majority of silos in the middle of nowhere, and heavily armoured so they yknow, aren't nuked themselves, which kinda means all you'd get is a bit of radiation in some farm in ohio. then again, that'd probably ruin all the crop yield and stuff but i'm not an expert.
It doesnt even mafter if the Nuke are armed or not, a explosion in a silo can create great damage, as what happen to a real life silo in Arkansas
Funniest thing about these [THING] has Fallen movies. The budget got smaller and smaller as the trilogy went on, while still making decent profits.
They actually film the attack on the white lawn in Olympus has fallen outside Barksdale airforce base in bossier city, LA. I remember seeing them detonating the set, it was pretty cool to see it live.
Neat
One thing I really noticed with White House Down was how they knocked out an Abrams with a single RPG to the front (the most heavily armored part) but used the tank-busting Javelin missles on helicopters
It's been a really long time since I've seen that movie, but IIRC That RPG came in from an angle where it could have hit the turret roof or upper front plate around the driver's hatch, either of which could absolutely be penetrated.
There also is a British MANPADS missile called the Javelin, but it has a distinctive appearance and IIRC the missile in the film didn't look like either kind of Javelin.
Well they got blown up pretty easily in Yemen with Soviet rpg
@@skyper8934those were imported Abrams from the US for Saudi they took some of the highly classified armour and rounds and other stuff since if they don't trust u enough for their tech they would literally take that one thing that make ur product good and sell it to you like the case with the Saudi and looking back at it now they probably made a good decision 😂
Javelins have a direct fire mode that allows them to shoot down helicopters, so it’s not too inaccurate
@@skyper8934 Its not a big surprise that a downgraded tank with insufficient crew and support being used poorly was taken out. You see this multiple times with older Leopard tanks, as well as modern Russian tanks in Ukraine. Acting like a tank is "easily destroyed" because 1 or more models have been destroyed in their entire service life is idiotic. Any thing can be destroyed or defeated in the right circumstances.
Olympus Has Fallen is a massively underrated clusterfuck of a movie. Is it good? No. Does the sequel avoid being barely concealed propaganda? Also no. Did I love every second of the over-the-top insanity?
You're damn right I did.
@whaaa t Can you bots just fuck off already?
Which one's the sequel
@@Raven-yk7lg London Has Fallen, which features world leaders getting assassinated (in London if you can imagine), and then Angel Has Fallen, which tones everything down and does more of a Fugitive thing with its story.
@@KungFuWombat I was wondering which one of them is propaganda, I presume London has Fallen but you could also mean Angel has Fallen
I loved the part in Olympus where the woman with the code ignores the President's order to give hers up to avoid torture, and the terrorist drag her outside to execute her. But the whole time she's being dragged she's defiantly screaming the pledge of allegiance.
Absolutely bonkers, I love it.
10:04 knowing what we know now about him... Yeah this makes sense
Upon rewatching White House Down the whole part of taking over the house felt like a COD mission. Not once did any of the secret service agents or security guards fired a shot at them, they all stood around like NPC’s waiting to get shot. At least in Olympus they all tried to fight back until they decided to go braindead and run into the minigun while it was firing even the last dude that was in the hallway managed to put up a fight before being gunned down
Here's an interesting example of the "twin" phenomenon in the comic book industry.
Specifically talking about DC's Swamp-Thing and Marvel's Man-Thing.
The fact that they are both humans who were transformed into swamp monsters through mystic powers and share the same name structure isn't even the weirdest part about them.
Both of them debuted in 1971, 2 MONTHS APART FROM EACHOTHER.
I know comic book characters get flack for "ripping eachother off", but i've never seen a twin character to this dagree
How about Dennis the Menace (American) and Dennis the Menace (English) where you got two young kids being Menaces to people.
Weren't the creators for man-thing and swamp-thing room mates or something though?
@@yahhah3027 i have heard of that, i'm not 100% sure tho.
Would explain it alot tho
same thing with the Doom Patrol and the X-men
Oh my god, Man-Thing has been buried in my subconscious for 25 years and I’ve always wondered why the heck I have a memory of “Swamp Thing with an elephant face”! Thank you for this comment!
Someone, somewhere, has made an "editors" cut, mashing both of these films together. It's confusing at times, (who's the real president? do we have a succession crisis?), but otherwise, a cinematic masterpiece.
Olympus Down: Battle of the Presidents
Do this yourself and I will pay to watch it.
So basically Robotech
it's left wing political brainwashing crap...
@@KB-ke3fi No, this imaginary cut is actually about friendship.
15:08
How joyous!
8:30 Clark Kent syndrome those glasses change everything
So glad someone finally talked about this, I remember being 8 and thinking “Why do these 2 movies exist?” Before going back to smashing my lego pieces against eachother and making explosion sounds
14:42 I AM FUCKING DYING DUDE.
I don't know who your editor is.
I don't know how much he earns.
But he deserves a raise.
I think his editor is just him
@@elvastan He should give himself a raise
16:49
also editing in this moment 12:18 😂 too good
@@panfriedegg5048 that one damn near ruptured my sides
after watching this all the way through, I can safely say that I still can't tell these 2 movies apart. they just blend together in my mind
i hate to admit i remember this. But in olympus has fallen the president actually DID never tell, they were hacking the codes the whole time, it would've taken too long for them to hack all 3 codes so instead they hacked one and tortured the presidents aids into giving up the others. It was actually one of the few parts of the movie I thought was clever
I remember watching a 2020 korean zombie film called #alive. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, I was watching this recap of a zombie movie called “Alone” and thought to myself, “Wait a minute, haven’t I seen this premise before?” Then I did some digging and found out that those two movies came from the EXACT same scriptwriter but with #alive being slightly adapted. The fact that those two movies were also globally released within 1 month from the other is kinda funny.
Yea I remember. I think alive had a different ending where the military saves them.
Yooo what, I watched #alive and loved it. I might have to try Alone.
The Fallen series is pretty solid overall. Nothing spectacular, but enjoyable and I wouldn't say the sequels are worse than the original, they're all pretty equal in quality.
Revenge of the Fallen was my favorite tho
That outro skit had me cackling - thank you!
Megamind and Despicable me are a phenomenon, that can only happen once in a lifetime. One was better but under appreciated. And the other was still good but degraded the more movies it got. Then there’s BvS and CACW. One was made just to compete with the other and was hated for so many hiccups in the writing while the other impressed a lot of people and actually made some sad for costumed dorks
The twin movies I distinctly remember was when “Mirror Mirror” and “Snow White and The Huntsman” were released into theatres at the same time
From watching both films, I have to say that Olympus has Fallen just has a better script and feels more grounded compared to White House Down, which has as much CGI and explosions as a Marvel movie before Marvel movies were what they are today.
Plus the Sequels felt great too, and what makes them great is the use of practical effects to create tension and suspense, compared to CGI that easily looks fake and degrades the grounded feeling you should get from a film such as this.
The only reason those movies were made was to bash the Republican party and brainwash America withleft wing inuendo.
They had sequels??
Nevermind
There's sequels to the Olympus trash??
White house down was a redditcentric circle jerk crinjefest
I remember vividly loving Skyline and then rewatching it years later and being like why did I like this? It’s probably time for a rewatch again
Twin movies or themes have been so prevalent lately. We had like 3 Pinocchio movies in a one year span
Wasn't that due to the copyright being up?
Most of that is due to copyright expirations on some big book IPs like Winnie the Pooh. Twin movies usually come from a studio denying a screenwriter's pitch for a movie and then stealing the idea and hiring someone cheaper to write it, like Armageddon & Deep Impact
Disney: Poop
The one with Paulie Shore: Good poop
Del Toro: Holy poop
I kind of liked London has Fallen. If you enjoyed the spectacle of Olympus, then you’ll love the first half. If you didn’t like the sneaking around of Olympus, you’ll hate the second half
I enjoyed both of them a lot, a lot of dumb moments that actually surprised me in both, especially the violence
The whole UK police vs the bad guys "one take" fight scene was actually really cool.
@@knightedsensei it was the sas
Took a couple of years for me to realize these were two separate films. I thought White House Down was just the international title of Olympus Has Fallen. Wasn't until the Olympus Has Fallen sequel came out that I noticed XD
I swear i saw a poster in theaters that just combined the two
I was young but even I was like “aren’t these the same movie?” When I saw them. Same vibe, same tempo
11:44 Perfect "We tortured some folks" moment
As a non American, both movied are what my family calls a "U-S-A. U-S-A. U-S-A" type of movies, those movies that are so whacko, we just watch it to vent in TV, and I mean the two of them. Heck, I also include "London has fallen", which is just another "escort misssion: the movie"
lol same
I like how you described this
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@@VeganSemihCyprus33 wtf lmao
USA USA USA
The weird thing is that it's usually just copycats following on the coattails of a big budget movie and releasing a straight to video movie. This was like two big budget movies each with their own well known actors being shown in theaters at the same time.
No every successful movie will have knock offs. Twin movies is specifically when both come out at the same time and are both big studio movies. It's not weird it's a pretty well known phenomenon. This video points out several examples in the beginning.
Nah this is by far not the first instance of two quite similar big budget movies released months apart.
It happened a lot in the 90s:
Volcano and Dantes Peak,
Air Force One and Executive Decision,
Armageddon and Deep Impact
And maybe just all the Die Hard - like movies, there are a lot of them in the 90s.
I… love this channel. Cured my depression for a couple of minutes
Jokes on Jamie Fox for hiring Hades as security detail.
Man the "white house being attacked" cinematic universe started off weird.
I unironically like Olympus Has Fallen. It is a fun action movie that you can watch to kill time once in a while.
White House Down on the other hand... I despise.
Personally I'm of the opposite mindset and keep on getting surprised the Fallen series is still a thing
@@bigbearkat2010 Oh I was also surprised it got sequels tbh lol
I agree with Derek and gotta say the only reason why I prefer White House Down is because it doesn't take itself too seriously (the fact it's an action comedy), so I'm willing to accept some of the dumb things that happen.
I.E. The way the bad guys took over the White House, and the fact there wasn't a whole lot of character motivation.
However with Olympus Has Fallen, since it's so determinted to be taken seriously, the things that are done wrong and don't make sense, just stick out completely and ruin it for me.
I.E. the AC-130 scene (many parts about it really rubs me the wrong way), the fact for some reason the good guys didn't use the Hydra-6 when said AC-130 was destroying everything, and the climax with the whole "detonate all nukes" button.
I'm also with Derek. I mean, I don't like either movies but WHD is a comedy so it's dumbness is more tolerated.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom ^TLDR of my comment
9:40 bruh i legit thought he had a mark of khorne tattooed on his arm
That Top Gear clip towards the end caught me completely off guard LMAO!
Best part is that one of these movies have two sequels. That film being Olympus has fallen.
He keeps falling
@@hungryhedgehog4201I warned you about stairs bro! I told you dog!
@@hungryhedgehog4201 And he can't get revenge
@@hungryhedgehog4201 nah man, the US bombs a wedding and the bad guy is mad his daughter died. movie plays it completely straight and never once acts apologetic about dropping a fucking predator missile on some families.
@@sydssolanumsamsys I mean that would be out of character otherwise
16:54 caught me off guard, rib-crushingly hilarious.
i love your editing so much
Ha!
I stood here listening to the video saying, "he is not about to drop the iron eagle reference."
Thank you for bringing me back to that place. I watched the crap out of those movies.
I remember watching Olympus in theaters with my grandparents when I went to visit them, then seeing an ad for White House Down when we got back to their house afterwards and I spent the night thinking I had gone insane and was mis-remembering the whole thing