Battleship: The Blockbuster Attempt That Sunk Itself
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- In 2012 Hasbro got greedy and attempted to plague audiences world-wide with adaptations of their board games. The first try was Battleship. An idea that was already not great, with aliens slapped on for good measure.
Ten years later, I felt like talking about it.
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Let's be fare, the only reason this movie failed was because, not once, did anyone say, "You sunk my battleship!"
Could have work without the aliens. Just a 21st century crew relearning WWII tech to fight an earthbound terror group would had work.
they did say "You're not gonna sink this battleship"
and the only reason why i enjoy it is because of the action, they're cool but thats it
@@accent1666 I agree.
Fair*
"Hopper has gone from a literal dead weight to a weapons officer on a naval destroyer." Honestly, that's not an unrealistic career path.
Navy promotion be like
@@kekoa_ok if you can fix a bike, you can fix a 40mm AA cannon
@@metetural9140 Fort Polk? Small arms repairman? Did I get the reference?
@@zombieranger3410 hey that's where I just left from a week ago
@@augustjay6436 oof. Is as bad as they say?
Man, that interview with the director is easily one of the most uncomfortable things I've watched in recent memory.
It's like he went to it for the sole purpose of ranting about his political views, but occasionally remembered "oh, I'm supposed to be promoting my film" and just throws in a comment about Rhianna being a great actress.
it's like a Borat sketch but without any irony
I felt like I got smashed in the face with a brick. Absolutely hilarious that he’d be like that.
"What're you a draft dodger?"
Boy this uh… this aged like wine.
The funny thing was that for the longest time I didn't even know it was supposed to be an adaptation of the Boardgame, Battleship. I just thought it was an attempt at a witty title.
Same here, it wasn't until this video did I realise the whole thing with the buoys was replicating the game. I just thought it was plot device number 5
Smh
There is an Asylum knockoff of this film that's actually just plain about a battleship, because The Asylum knows that a battleship is a cooler thing to make a movie about than the board game Battleship. Their main character is also not a whiny little b'tch that still somehow has everything handed to him.
It still has naval aliens, even worse effect and a couple of other major issues, but I don't know, it might actually be the better movie of the two.
@@Echiewel if that movie you're talking about is called American warships, then yeah it sucked my main grip is how an entire SEAL team was on the Iowa for no logical reason only for them to get wiped out by the Aliens in like 5 seconds
Got to love how Peter Berg easily transitions from talking about Israeli-Iranian tensions to promoting Battleship.
It's weird how political he got, when he was there promoting a movie that went to great lengths to avoid being political.
@@troodon1096 Yeah because movies about militaries are never inherently political or anything. It's not well known to be used as recruitment propaganda or anything.
@@noahvannote363 still Military movies while some are used for Military Recruitment, its usually more subtle than talking about literal politics in the Near East in an interview promoting the movie, you don't usually watch an interview of the Directors of say Top Gun Mavrick suddenly talking about the South China Sea, China, Japan and Korea and then Iran.
P.S its the military version of some Activist Director like Spike Lee ranting for minutes about some recent political event
@@noahvannote363 most military try not to be political they try to make it look awesome whitout the burdensome of real life even more in the us if you take one of the two stance you just splinted your recruitment pull into two
@@aoki6332 Military is inherently political.
they could have made this instantly at least a cult classic by setting it in WW2 and have the Yamato and Iowa team up to defeat aliens
Kancolle but with actual battleships
I never saw it, but that reminds me of the premise of Cowboys VS Aliens. I've done a low-magic DnD campaign like that and it was a ton of fun for the players. They loved it.
No, not in the era of Battle of LA and transformers.
Omfg
That would've been so cool! I'd go for that haha.
As a navy veteran I can say blindly shooting my shot and hoping to hit was indeed our standard strategy.
In my experience, that's how you guys date, too.
Sounds more like Marine mantra than Navy. Not shitting on Marines at all, there definitely is a point to the doctrine of 'the enemy can't hurt us if he does not exist'
@@QuixoticCowboyso fun fact, guess who the Marines not only work with the most, but what exact institution they were apart of before being differentiated?
Chesty Puller didnt seem to have any issues when he jacked that ship the one time\
Accuracy by volume.
By far the biggest sin of this movie, is that not one person said the cheesiest line of, "They sunk my/our battleship"
They actually did right before they get the missouri up.
One veteran says “they ain’t gonna sink this battleship”
Well that’s also because they never sink a battleship lol. They lose destroyers, tiny ships
It's Battleshippin time
I love the idea that the aliens might have come to Earth just beat up a random nerd that annoyed them with his signal.
😂😂
I mean,if some kind of signal was fired at your satellite for tv, wouldn't you be pissed to/j
4:51
Lol imagine our first contact being the equivalent of an angry neighbor complaining about the noise next door
@@neroidius6915 HAHHA
I’ve been in the US navy for six years and I’ve met two or three people who actually joined the navy because of this movie. We’ll never know exactly how many people signed their life away because of battleship, but know they’re out there lol
Oh, so, just like Battle of LA?. But just a complete different branch?. Is there an equivalent for Air Force?, CIA/FBI?, spec ops?
@@strikeforce1500
Air Force got _Top Gun_ absolutely. And maybe _Captain Marvel._
Pretty much any political thriller or spy film will get recuits for national police and intelligence agencies.
EDIT: typo
Oh nooooooo! 😢
Well, there is an active ship in the US Navy that is named New Jersey , just not a BB.
@@kjj26k Top gun is still a US Navy Navy film.
I remember that I was only one that showed up in the theatre. They played this movie for me alone, they even cut/skipped the commercials, when I shouted that I'm alone and it's pointless. Fun experience.
that's insane
I love the idea that even though the aliens are literally invading, they never attack unless attacked first.
*"We only want the nerd. Just let us beat him up, and we'll lea- For god's sake, stOP SHOOTING AT US!"*
- The Aliens
The nerd offended them by saying a mama joke
Strict engagement rules exist today, wouldn't be out of the question for moralistic aliens to have the same
Turns out, they're a peacekeeping force sent by Space-UN. Who finally gave up on waiting for us to get the whole "war among ourselves" out of our system and decided to intervene _before_ we go interplanetary...
"CAPTAIN!... THE ALIENS ARE SHOOTING!... Oh... They like hit a completely empty random space...."
"oh well, soldier, fire back, not to the coordinates we can clearly see then at, BUT AT D-6!... Because.. Uhm... Why not
I’d like to see more board game films
One man’s greed caused disaster. He rushed a delicate job for money alone. A wealthy architect caring more for speed then safety. Now it will all comes crashing down.
*Jenga, coming summer 2022*
One young but genius chess player attempts to become a grandmaster in a lifelong struggle for acceptance and recognition
Queen’s Gambit, coming 202- oh wait
They say that when you build a better mousetrap, the world beats a path to your door...
What do you do when the world builds better mice?
MOUSETRAP: The Movie
@@petertrudelljr See, I was thinking “Saw” but with Rube Goldberg style traps “you mean to tell me, this is just some kind of Mouse trap”? But that sounds WAY better.
A biting critique of the Bourgeois real estate moguls that control London, vying for total power.
*Monopoly - Summer 2023*
Dude that sounds kinda like the skycraper movie with the rock
Don't forget how the alien ships shot explosives shaped like the pegs you use in the actual board game.
Holy shit I’m 20 and just realized that how did i not figure it out
😮 never noticed lol
They forgot to put it in the video you should have reminded them
@@ar0568 you legit just said that because you want the whole world to know that you just turned 20 recently and that you are a proud “adult” because you lost the -teen in your age 😂 since that’s how you Americans assume age is like, “oh my god I am 2 years older than he is, that means he is stupid and young and I should insult him/her as a children and call him/her kiddo” but when you ACTUALLY grow up, you would realize that even 5 years age difference doesn’t mean fu∁κ all 😂😂😂😂
I do not remeber that 😂 no way lmaoo
Ah yes, Battleship. The reason that the other three Iowa sisters now exist in Missouri's shadow.
I swear this movie exists because someone got permission to film on board the Missouri but then remembered they had to actually make a movie.
I sometimes like to believe the screenwriter planned to make an epic historic WW II movie about the big three Iowa sisters but then someone accidentally lost 2/3s of the budget and he could only afford the Missouri, and so then he went, “… Welp, guess I might as well make an alien movie.”
Well it probably doesn't help the fact that Japan signed the terms of surrender on the Missouri
I just wanna know how Hopper got waived to OCS and made it to O-3 with a breaking and entering charge on his criminal record 💀
That is kinda like buffing a scratch out of a car that is on fire.
Becoming an O-3 in the Navy isn't *that* hard tbh
@@JawsFan27 with a record??? Are you crazy?
Because he has potential, dammit!!!
Because he fug the general daughter
I love the idea that the director made a Hollywood blockbuster, went on a press tour about it to Israel and tried to convince them to start a war with Iran
[EDIT: 😐]
pretty based
@@vantablack6288 Unfathomably based and nuclear winter-pilled
Berg is now legend status in my eyes.
He should have called the battleship the USS liberty
hope all the warmongers in the comments get put on the frontline
I never saw this movie, but I was stationed in Hawaii when they filmed it. I remember a friend got excited when Rihanna showed up to a club, but they kicked everyone else out of the club so she could dance by herself.
Lol that's all I knew about this movie. Rihanna kicked everyone else out of a club so she could dance by herself. That sentence never gets old to me.
That seems contrary to the point of clubs lol. Like you go there to dance WITH people. If you want to dance by yourself, you have a house for that.
@@pugsondrugs5480 I think if you’re that famous (in 2013), you have a legal obligation to party with only 8s and above.
That sounds like it probably sucked lol
LMAO I NEVER KNEW THAT
God, I fucking hate celebrities.
Battleship doesn't take place in any semblance of a normal reality. Battleship takes place in a reality where the best course of action is the one that looks the coolest; where Rule of Cool overpowers any sort of pragmatism or our idea of traditional wisdom. The cooler something is in the Battleshipverse, the more likely it is to succeed. If you go into the film with this understanding, it becomes far more watchable.
Isn't that every hollywood action movie from the early 2000s
8:10 They actually made a mobile game based on the movie which plays like the original board game, even with the aliens and stuff, and it was cool because you'd get little cutscenes that would play when it was your turn or when you sunk a battleship. Played the shit out of it when I was a kid.
And then for some reason Hasbro took it off the Play Store (or the apple store I can't remember).
Game name?
@@shadow_legend9839 just "Battleship" from Hasbro
I don't think you'll be able to find the game anymore though
@@shadow_legend9839For real?
there was a boots on ground console game where you command a fleet though a tablet because you have access to a com relay and can give the ships targets. I remember playing it on my Xbox 360. Also called battleship.
@@willhornsby206 the game was meh at best, but for the destruction loving teenager just having seen the movie it was fuckin awesome. i'm very doubtful i'd buy a game based off a movie these days haha
I'll never forget watching this movie in the theater with friends, At the time I wanted to be a Fighter pilot. So when the fighter jet (I think F/A18s) enter the movie someone nudged me and said "you wanna do that right" I nodded. The next 5 seconds the fighter jet flies into the forcefield and is blown up.
😂😂😂
You made my day thank you
Believe it or not... This movie has an absurd following in Japan. Like it did too well here.
And somehow made burritos popular. I shit you not, on group viewings, or when it's going to be shown on TV (Yes they still have those for this movie), it's tradition to have a chicken burrito. I'm seriously not making any of this up.
I was thinking about doing a video on this bizarre subculture of this movie, because it's one of those rabbit holes. The director has even acknowledged the fanbase here. It's very confusing to me.
This doesn’t surprise me to be honest… except for the burrito part that just confuses me
You should make that video
The movie is just product placement and marketability, literally nothing else.
So, this loony ass movie did burritos huge sale numbers, like what Avengers did for shawarmas.
@@borisaustria4301 shawarma are delicious, when i was little i would eat a lot of it, only learned the name after the movie lol
There's nothing sexier than an Iowa class battleship firing a full broadside. Based on the existence of that scene it seems the creators knew that on some level. If they had just had the foresight to make the whole movie that, this might be regarded as one of the greatest movies of all time
Dude, the vet with his prosthetic leg boxing the alien was pretty awesome! I liked when they were out of ships and turned to the old vets to help, too. That was amazing! While there are plenty of things to not like about this movie, I ultimately found myself liking it. I still like it, hahahaha
There are so many good things about this movie simply due to the rule of cool
Old school vets rejoining the crew to help the young guns
Harpoons and tomahawks beating the shit out of aliens
Goalkeeper ciws stopping a couple of alien rounds.
Missouri tanking a couple of alien rounds
Mainly I feel like the movie just gives hope that maybe an alien invasion is survivable just using the equipment we already have.
Let's be honest, the USS Missouri stole the show.
It was fun power fantasy really
Still like the Guided Missile scene. That was badass
They could have spent the $200 million budget on just the Missouri scene and it would have been just as worth it
It really feels like the one scene against Outer Haven command ship from MGS4 which involves Missouri (as all naval arsenal in US military are all digital-focused which all of them being controlled by Patriot's AI)
Who would've thought that the highlight of a movie named 'Battleship' would be the only actual battleship in the film.
I can't get over how the shells the aliens used were literally Battleship pieces. They're literally the things you stick in the ships.
Holy shit, I just realised that!
That’s the point lol I noticed that right way
Why the f**k did I not notice that before this comment
OMFG. how come I've watched this movie soo many times and never realized that!!!
Ffs I can't believe it.
Holy shit, you just blew my mind lmao
This is a huge guilty pleasure for me. It’s corny, bombastic, has cool action, silly side characters and dialogue, and heroic.
and the cgi is better than in some of the movies that have come out recently.
Former sailor. Me and few guys in the shop loved how utterly retarded this film is. It gets so much wrong it's hilarious. There's at least a dozen things wrong at any time it's great. Best unintentional comedy film.
@@goldman77700 could you mention some?
@@correctionguy7632 Way too many to list. Pretty much anything any scene with the anchor was just sooo wrong. When they're drifting using the anchor...sooo bad. Anchors are super boring, loud but boring. Rhianna basically had a different job in every scene. In the navy everyone gets a rate which is a specialization like cook or engineer. She did every job in the navy almost haha. Like being a dentist in one scene than a plumber in the next. Those are just my favorites.
I remember not knowing Battleship the board game when first watching this movie. The Battleship part of Battleship got me amazed how smart and innovative their idea was.
It’s amazing how every video on this channel is about some totally forgotten thing I was obsessed with as a kid
Same. Love it. Especially the autistic screeching during the Deadliest Warrior episode since it reminded me of when I watched it with my brothers and we got really into it.
Feels good, man.
and the only reason why i enjoy it is because of the action, they're cool but thats it
I enjoyed Battleship but never got around to watching Battle LA till now. Last video was right, it was really a product of its time.
This was one of my favorite guilty pleasure movies and then I forgot about it
Deadliest Warrior, Battle L.A., yep.
I think we’re forgetting the fact that at the time the movie came out, the Missouri had been a museum ship for 14 years, and the main characters completely restore her to working condition in less than a day.
And after finding the old crew seemingly just living on the ship like some kind of lost tribe.
@@CruelestChris To be fair if done like 12 years before the actual release of this movie, that would be valid as alot of those who worked aboard the ship for its museum purposes or on the surrounding museum attractions were ex-crew members as she was their home for years at sea. And Missouri no but if done in like 2007 with Iowa or Wisconsin it would be alittle more believable since due to 109-364, the National Defense Authorization Act 2007. Though even people working to keep them in that state said it would still take abit to get them fully up and running. However I do not believe the 109-364 NDA act is still maintained to this day sadly. And even if it was, it was only for iowa and wisconsin.
@@grimalkin6676 Iirc that was ended in 2014 and those ships are fully removed from the US reserve fleet. And also as awesome as battleships can be, they'd just be dead weight in a modern naval engagement so better for them to be retired.
@@Lv-sl3rm Thats why I said if the movie was done years ago. Also tell that to the marines who still think modern destroyers guns are too small and missiles too ineffective to support a proper beach landing with suppressing fire.
@@grimalkin6676 I would tell them to open a book up and give it a good long ponder as to why battleships were displaced in the first place. Doesn't matter how big your gun is in the age of guided munitions and supersonic missiles.
You know what's this movie's worst crime??? Not ONCE did a character say, "You have sunk my Battleship!!"
This guy's channel makes me want more Transformer movies... Just so he can make a video on them.
0:46 imagine having a friend so done with life that he uses a game of battleship as a good enough excuse to drown himself.
Imagine?
Imagine.
Imagine!
Imagine…
Imagine~
battleship was one of those movies that would be on tv like once a month, and for some reason my dad decided to watch it almost every time, hes probably seen it more than 25 times
Yeah like several films from that director it's the kinda film that would be on TNT at like 2 in the afternoon and the next time you see your granddad who fought in WWII would say "I saw this really good movie last month..." And who would then proceed to forget the film's name, who was in it and what actually happened in it.
Mine too lol
ACDC Thunderstruck and USS Missouri, what more can a guy ask for? What more does a guy need?
Holy shit yes
Not surprised. This movie appeals to boomers like my dad since it’s something he can have on in the background while doing something else at home. This movie is like the perfect one for FX/TNT. No egregious violence you have to edit out, the runtime is more or less 4-5 hours with ads, and it’s got no plot you really have to pay that much attention to. It’s basically HGTV for boomer men, lmao.
My brother was on the USS Chaffee (DDG 90) while this movie was being filmed. He actually got to be an extra background sailor in the beginning of the movie.
Battleship has a special place in my heart. It passes the vibe check.
Honestly if they did go for the *these aliens aren't invaders, their a diplomatic group who was attacked by misunderstanding* then this movie would actually have a clever idea
So, steal the twist ending from Ender's Game?
@@louisduarte8763 Better to steal from something that's actually well writen than whatever these bland wannabes are
I mean the book does say they were just a bunch of scientist
If they were some diplomatic group or lost miners/refugees trying to avoid killing civilians, they really should've showed that better. Like Cody says, the aliens are rather inconsistent when they resort to pacifism, like when they were just fine with killing side characters or collapsing a bridge full of civilians on it.
Some interpret it as destroying the bridge to prevent reinforcements or something, but in that case, they could've shown the aliens trying to scare people off the bridge or something before demolishing it. I'll have to agree with Cody that the aliens just weren't written well.
Someone actually made a plausible theory about these aliens in which in this video didn't quite theorized:
They're scouts or more likely, miners, and just sent out to Earth as they were the nearest ones...well.. to Earth. They have a relatively slow FTL because the timeline moved too fast in which the movie just did not put a "5 years later or something". It's because Hopper became a Weapons Officer from being a bloke very fast in the movie. The timeline jumped a few years.
The weaponry, the "hooking" thingamajig bomb, is perfect for mining or at least meant for mining. As why they were so desperate destroying highways (to prevent getting anyone to the transmitter) while prioritizing destroying hostile humans and local US assets (getting to them), is because they don't have that much resources while working with the transmission dishes on Hawaii, which was eventually destroyed by that battleship. So much for being advanced not detecting a satellite and do course corrections, now they're struggling to get comms back as their comms ship/module flattened a part of Hong Kong.
In short, yes, they are weak, but for a reason, and the movie did not clarify it.
The shells the aliens lob are even shaped like the little game pegs. That's neat. Gotta admire their dedication.
Yeah, that's a nice touch.
No, ya really dont
@@lego1999100lmao
The Army and Airforce (to some extent) got the Transformers series.
The Marine Corps got Battlefield Los Angeles.
And finally, the Navy got Battleship.
Up next is the Coast Guard.
Raiding Alien Submarines to capture illegal Space Drugs.
There was a theory going around that these aliens were actually just mining ships or scout ships and that's why their weaponry was so unique lol
They were playing Battleship in the cafeteria at MEPS. The staff made sure to inform us that no, we would not be fighting aliens if we joined the Navy.
Yeah, that's the Air Force. Well, Space Force now.
Then what's the point?
@@cernunnos8917 fighting godzilla and giant squids
What of aliens invade then? Who would fight them?
@@cernunnos8917 Make sure Captain Nemo doesn't get his revenge
So this movie is essentially: Aliens try to replicate Pearl Harbor. They are somehow even less succesful than the Japanese in 1942.
*1941
No, really not. They were a diplomatic mission to warn humans of some third party that wants to attack them.
But at after their diplomatic/communication ship crashed, they tried to communicate with their home planet for further instructions while following their strict rule of engagement.
@@muthpeterpatrik how do you know?
@@Gloomdrake lore
@@jorgenajar9407 but it wasn't in the movie, so where was it?
The aliens feel like that one annoying kid at school that always feels the need to get you back for whatever you mistakenly did to them, so they do annoying shit like block you in the hallways
Is it just me who thinks the way PH says "Okay. What are you talking about?" is super funny in a hysterical way? 😂
The one thing I admire most about this film is that the veteran who lost his legs I'd actually played by a veteran who lost his legs.
I also thought the involvement of the WW2 vets was kinda cool, even if the very concept makes me laugh out loud. Also why were they keeping live ammunition on a decommissioned battleship?
The only thing that I thought was really interesting was that the aliens were not portrayed as necessarily malevolent. Cody attributes this to poor writing which I can understand. But at the same time I thought there were hints that the aliens at least didn't go out of their way to cause unnecessary casualties. It would have been easy to write generic, Independence Day, kill all humans aliens but they didn't write them that way for some reason. Even in moments when they could kill off human servicemen they back off. It may be done inconsistently but I at least thought it was interesting since so many other stories involving aliens don't usually ad any nuance to their goals or philosophy
The issue is they don't have a philosophy to add nuance to.
You're ignoring how they just destroyed a whole bridge for no reason
@@sakuradabp6400 Always thought that bridge was a highway leading to marine military base that just got attacked. So they destroyed it to prevent air units from being repaired and use in a counter attack.
Guess it was just my mind filling in the blanks in the movie
@@natoartiljerija1441 Yeah lol, all those normal cars with innocent people just falling makes it clear
I thought there were hints that the aliens at least didn't go out of their way to cause unnecessary casualties. 10:47
The aliens looking like Brutes and the USS Missouri are probably the only memorable parts from this movie. Though I do vaguely remember being annoyed how Liam Neeson was just a side character.
Also lmao wtf was that director interview.
Id damn well hope that the Battleship, in a movie called Battleship, was the most memorable part.
Their look is why I got the 3DS game
XD
@@Ramsey276one that 3DS game was hype tho ngl
Didn’t you hear him he’s a Jew
@@ZVDhunter861 man, I played so much of that game. It was so much fun.
That interview... good lord.
I only have a softspot for this movie because my dad served on the Missouri during the Gulf War and it was the first time I'd seen (kinda) a battleship in action. I fondly remember turning around to him and being like "Your ship is BADASS.". He's even got a piece of a plank from the deck. The Mighty MO is a staple in our family, and that's why I love this movie. It's just The MO fucking *destroying* aliens, and whenever I see the movie I think "Hell yeah, that's my dad right there"
The alien bomb thingies look like the game pegs. Astounding
The ships also require 3 pegs to kill, the same as in the game. The directors brain must have been working at 110% capacity.
Unholy CARP
XD
Honestly, for all the s*** the movie has in plot it makes up for in design and action scenes (usually).
In my opinion, Battleship is actually one of my top favorite movies only because the action scenes carried the day (and also my obsession for heavy artillery).
“And they face the full force of a trillion dollar military budget.”
Dang that line is good
8:00 I always assumed that that was a gravity altering pulse grenade
I remember seeing the movie in theater with my sister. We decided to go see it because just the ads was making it look so bad and dumb. We got completly stunned when we saw it and understood it was even worse than we could expect
Those scenes with the interview where the most insane parts of this movie.
Yes
So Iranians are actually just undercover aliens?
Absolutely
I always thought the aliens were some class of industrial personnel rather than military, they probably crashlanded and made sure to disable any threat nearby while awaiting rescue
The way their artillery guns work also lines up with that idea perfectly. The peg bombs make more sense as mining charges than actual anti-ship weapons.
Stop trying to explain this movie
1:Forking HAY, guys...
2:How did this happen?!
3: IF we get rescued, we are doomed to FARM DUTY FOR LIFE... what’s coming this way?
1: I got a crazy idea
2: I’m down for whatever!
XD
@@tapset They the movie is badly written. It is just a game to think about why something happens which good authors already thought of and prepared.
@@BERKAYWOOD
Some people just like to use their imagination 😉
this movie is so fun to watch. not every movie needs to be taxi driver or fight club. Battleship, Pacific Rim, Fast and Furious, just fun, no-brain-powered-required watches
I've seen it, and it...was a movie. I do admire them using ACDC in the soundtrack and allowing a real disabled veteran to be the hero.
As a massive naval history nerd, I absolutely love this movie. It's such a beautiful disaster to poke at, and I watch it at least once per year.
Doesn’t help that a lot of navy people I know just watched it and wanted to chew glass just watching it
@@jalejablonsky2396it's because military brain washed grunts don't know how to suspend disbelief and just enjoy themselves. They take it extreamly personal if you talk bad about whatever branch their in. Like you just spat in their mothers face or something.
As a Navy guy and a Navy history nerd, I wanted to throttle Hopper for his empty-headed comments about battleships early on. No salt worth their salt would say that.
It's fun watching the mighty Mo kicking ass, but it just makes my head hurt seeing a museum ship with no fuel or ammo on board, somehow in service in what? maybe a couple hours? It would take a day just to build up steam... if you had fuel, didn't care about damaging everything using sea water, and all the sea chests weren't plated over.
@johngaltline9933 dont forget those senior citizens transiting the ship with 2,000 pound shells on their shoulders over actual knee knockers.
7:49
Ex-squid and armchair historian here. Silly as it looks at first glance, this shot has an extremely loose basis in reality. Shockwaves propagate very easily down the long and narrow passageways of a ship, and have been known to ricochet around as they do so. The shot makes it seem like this could create some kind of...weird...reversing...suction effect? Which is obviously nonsense, but shockwaves can behave in extremely unpredictable ways, and can change direction unexpectedly. Survivors accounts from HMS Hood, USS Arizona, IJN Taiho, and similar wartime disasters consistently describe that those who lived through those enormous explosions did so because of luck, including wayward shockwaves blowing them overboard when the person next to them was thrown a completely different direction. See the firsthand account of Midshipman William John Dundas for details; he was one of only three survivors from HMS Hood, a ship which embarked more than 1400 souls.
Of course, the shot in the movie would never happen in the real world because in reality the ship would be set to material condition Zebra, which would mean every available hatch would be closed and dogged, preventing shockwaves from shooting down passageways and causing massive damage, injury, and death. It's like the real navy thought about these things or something...
Huh, I had no idea about that cool, and as a fellow lover of history, (although I'm more of a bed historian, armchair historians have to do too much work) I appreciate you going to multiple primary sources from both sides of a conflict for a RUclips comment.
One day my armchair historian info will be as useful as this... but until that day I will just sit on this knowledge of colors and pigments... Best i've ever had was correcting someone about Cream being a color. it's like peach but lower chroma and lame.
Self proclaimed idiot here. You can also look up slow mo videos of explosions in tubes that show the "back and forth" effect very clearly. Specifically "holding an explosion" from smarter everyday
I thought the brief reversing shot was just a cinematic effect? Like "replay that shot".
I figured the that weird scene was the effect of a weird 2 stage explosion. First stage explodes throwing the people using all air in the area like a thermobaric then the people were sucked back in for a second then the secondary charge went off throwing them away again.
8:50 this interview 💀
4:35 A common cliche, a needless redundancy so to speak as it were.
I loved the scene where the Missouri drifted _in water_ and full-auto'd an alien ship. Pretty badass. Wish I could do that in World of Warships.
With the way the game is going, you'll be able to do that eventually
That was a missed sponsor opportunity...
With enough practice you can actually do that in Sea of Thieves
@@BlaadyAtRUclipsbut you got to dodge the cliffs, or their ship, or the meg, or the skeleton ship, or the island, or do it right (it wont)
I had an idea for this movie to be the story of two Admirals with history pitted against each other during a mostly naval conflict, and each tries to outsmart the other with knowledge of their pasts, as well as maybe throwing some personal shade during the revenge moves - or *plays* - they come up with. Thought it could've been interesting, like an intense match of Command and Conquer, or Starcraft.
Instead we got Transformers with boats.
That's a good concept. Red October meet ford vs ferrari
You are obviously too smart for Hollywood
That could be so much better
You wrote a better treatment than any Hollywood hack could've done.
Yet, somehow, folks like you *aren't* the ones being paid well for their ideas... Ah, Hollywood
The navy has literal smoke curtains and yet here we are
You are Officially the first channel whose videos I have all watched. Congratulations!!!
I deadass didn't know this was an adaptation of a board game till i watched this video, and i just cannot believe it
With that aside, i remember really liking this movie when i watched it way way back, but i was like 10 and then never saw it again so...
I always thought that the aliens were like a lost mining detachment or something. It would explain why all of their equipment seems like it’d be used for some kind of excavating work. Plus if you rewatch the movie with that thought in your head it makes it so much more interesting
If this is to be believed, the aliens are there to harvest resources, that's their primary objective and follows the "Fire only of Fired upon" rules of engagement, destroying humans is the last thing they want to do unless a clear and present danger is shown. and the weapons also start to make some sense, for example the peg shells are probably mining explosives that happens to have enough power to destroy Missouri's turret 3 and kill the Sampson and Myoko, they were not dedicated Weapons, which is why the CWIS on the JPJ and Sampson killed a chunk of them. And those Shredder ball things were more precision mining equipment like our drills.
1:Forking HAY, guys...
2:How did this happen?!
3: IF we get rescued, we are doomed to FARM DUTY FOR LIFE... what’s coming this way?
1: I got a crazy idea
2: I’m down for whatever!
XD
They only shoot when shot at. Target only military targets. And use kinetic weapons when firing on land targets, to minimize collateral damage.
It was their communications ship that got destroyed.
The classic "we come in peace" but communication fail.
It seemed like a movie that "was trying" to be smarter, but somehow got lost along the way, in a trashy action flick.
The aliens were just trying to repair their lost com satellite that dropped in Hong Kong, and that caused the Americans to panic as all they can think is War, hence the reference to the movie director promoting Israel to have war against Iran over something that they have no clue about like the nuclear power, which was a reference for non existent WMD of Iraq that put them being invaded by US for decades.
@@nutzhazel Americans project their warmongering mentality into everything
The best part is definitely when they decided to move a shell by hand across the ship completely ignoring the track designed to do that exact job...
Pretty sure they said in the movie that said track was destroyed. I don't know, I didn't watch this movie for a long time.
Battleship might be one of the best dumb-action movies ever to be made. You can rewatch it countless times and there are parts that get you pumped every time.
The scene with the old vets on Missouri is pretty cool. That’s all I remember about this.
This film was just one big recruitment ad for the US Navy.
I'm glad it's set in Hawaii. But really, Battleship should have been a WWII movie
Should've been
MIDWAY is a better BATTLESHIP movie than this one.
Would be cool to see Yamato fare against Mighty Mo
@@haysnairte4 yupp no air support no cruiser escorts....broadside for broadside
They even stole the dome from the Simpsons movie
I stand by
“Let’s drop some lead on this mother
FIRE”
Being a fantastic line!!
I've always been half-convinced this movie was intended to be a satire. And, just, nobody told Berg.
Let's all be honest: Battleship is an ironic masterpiece.
True its a really badass movie
Nah, it's pretty forgettable mediocre dumpster fire. You'll grow out of it eventually.
@@SHVRWK still a pretty cool movie imo
The people who hate this movie will probably also tell you all about how awful _True Lies_ was. Both movies require the viewer to just "go with it," which *I'm* normally the one who can't.
@@SHVRWKit's a dumb movie. Turn your brain off and it's a bit of fun for a couple hours.
Honestly Naval focused combat against Aliens sounds like an interesting premise. Just a shame it was wasted on this movie.
Should had been Iowa and Yamato vs Aliens
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@@princesscrystal6410 There's actually a mockbuster from Asylum called "American Warships" that features the Iowa battleship fighting aliens. If you wanna know what it's like, it's directed by Thunder Levin, the same guy behind the Sharknado movies.
I watched this once back when it came out, and I legitimately forgot it even existed prior to this video, and I continue to forget it exists until every time I come across the video again.
Now let's get an epic action-movie adaptation of "Mancala"
I love this movie because of how irredeemable it is. They really did take every popular trope, directing style, and one liner of the time and mash it all together with a healthy dose of the US Navy behind and in front of the camera. It's the most 2010s action movie to ever lens flare. I think there's charm to that, in the same way there's charm to a baby even though it constantly shits and vomits itself. And also the broadside was cool.
This movie achieves greatness like a massive multi-car pileup. You remember it specifically because it was so bad. You see ideas come from every direction, never slowing down and just slamming headlong into other bad ideas. It never stops until the credits roll.... and I appreciate that.
There is a certain blind, stupid courage it exhibits. "Sir, we're heading right for a cliff!" "GO FASTER!!!"
Absolutely love this movie, have watched it at least 13 times, the most recent viewing last month. Great to just turn your brain off for a bit and relax to.
The biggest WTF of the movie is the scene shown at 4:04 where someone is waving the Japanese Imperial Flag. If you don't understand why this is a POG moment then you need to hit the history books, buck-o.
Its the flag of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force
The reason the aliens took at that highway is almost definitely to hinder infrastructure in the region to disrupt reinforcement attemptd ny any organized resistance. It's pretty standard for invasions, it was done at D-Day
@ProteusXF Comrade Stalin orders spelling mistake, we can't be viewed as grammar invaders
That's not convincing lol there are helicopters, missiles, fighter jets etc.
@@SHVRWK They already destroyed those and they blocked off entrance of all new reinforcements. The only infrastructure remaining is the highway
@@SHVRWK Helicopters are cool and capable, but a road supply connection remains king
I worked preproduction for this project, and you are spot on
10:49 the aliens obviously had high speed rail on their home planet.
Based
@@concept5631 Spaced
I got fucked up doing some high speed rails
@@AC-hj9tv what
I served on the class of ship this was filmed on. I spent 10 hours a day at the console where Rhianna sat for months on end, and I was a radar technician. I know exactly how the main sensor system works. The thing they describe needing to be able to find the aliens is EXACTLY how the radar works. It was very hard for me to suspend my disbelief for the trope that allowed them to fire on a grid.
This is one of my top guilty pleasures. I absolutely love the nighttime 'battleship' sequence so much for whatever reason. its just so silly. the movie does whatever it can to reference the game regardless of what that means for the story.
Man, the early 2010s blockbusters were a weird trip. If these guys weren't fighting zombies, they would have fought aliens.
I love how apparently in a matter of MILISECONDS, one of the alien Beyblades decided to wreck a portion of Interstate H1 (yes that is the interstate) because of the Interstate system's military purpose. All from a civilization that might not even have the concept of major arterial roadways. All within a *milisecond.*
I know that this is tangential but it's really funny that they still call the highway there an interstate. It's the least interstate highway in the country, it's not even inter-island.
There's also H2 and H3.
I was just about to mention this, Interstates were originally designed for military Logistics, which is why they destroyed the H1
When they announced this dumpster fire 🔥 I had NO intention of seeing it
The "Why are the aliens attacking or not attacking us?" Idea really needed a better movie to explore. Imagine that they have advanced technology and military hardware and all that stuff, but not only showed restraint and all that but also had motivations that were layered and the fighting started because of miscommunication and all that. That's legit sci-fi right there, but no. They decided we need a battleship board game so we gonna sink dem battleships.
*Sigh*
I had the Battleship movie version of the board game and legit never even knew this movie adaptation existed until 5 years later.
Got the 3DS game on Clearance
XD
An adaptation boardgame based on the movie based on the battleship board game.
For that scene where the little death ball thing shreds the interstate/overpass, it was probably to hinder the deployment of military forces/limit the movement of humans in general.
As an aside, I did find the potential of relatively speaking "merciful" invaders as an interesting idea that would have been fun to flesh out. Aliens are almost always either the cuddly friendly ET type or mercilessly savage and cruel xenomorph, war of the worlds type that just wants to kill us to the last. Seeing some that clearly aren't sunshine and rainbows but actively avoid unnecessary casualties would have been pretty cool. But the movie sucked, so... eh.
I believe it was supposed to be conveyed that the aliens were a "military force," not just foreign entities, and therefore have rules of engagement to follow. That and their plans on how to deal with the humans could likely change multiple times throughout the movie. Action-reaction. But most people don't understand that war follows rules and believe anything goes, so sutle subplots get overlooked.
@@anonpatriot5649 good point now that you mention it yeah they do resemble irl militaries with rules and conventions to prevent cruelty. No reason for us to be the only species to develop something like that
@@anonpatriot5649 The novel was much more interesting in terms of background, the aliens were a rogue detachment from an insterstellar empire who want to conquer earth despite the warning from high council. Thus they came unprepared and outnumbered. And yes, they have RoE.
The first Expeditionary Force is a lot like that, can't remember exactly but a scout ship crash lands on earth somehow and when their people come to extract them the opposing aliens use that as an excuse to roll up and start a battle over the previously off limits planet. They make a deal with the earth military and everything snowballs from there. The "war politics in space" are a great part of the series in general.
So you want predators? They're not exactly friendly, but from what I remember they preferred fighting armed combatants mainly.
I'm a simple man.
When I see an Iowa-class Battleship being used, I like it.
I love how you put in footage of Spore during the "talking to aliens" intro
This movie stands out for me, not because of the movie but how I watched it. My dad wanted to go see it, so we went and the only other people in the theater happened to be two of my buddies from school. Then somewhere near the climax of the movie, a character said something like "We're gonna cancel doomsday" or something like that. Immediately after that line, the power went out.
...i think you were watching _Pacific Rim._
"We are cancelling the apocalypse!" was a line from that movie, not _Battleship_
@@ReddwarfIV When the movie is so unremarkable, they remembered something else entirely, a better movie too
:0
And then what happened?
To be honest, I actually love this movie for the exact reasons. This was an attempt at a modern day blockbuster that went down swinging with a Big Miss. That alone doesn't make it great, but the opening scene of getting a burrito let's the audience know this is a joke, then the aliens, Rihanna getting Chris Brown'ed by an alien, the U.S.S Missouri literally drifting with an anchor. Come'on.. This movie is a modern day classic of giving money away and I love it. It may stink, but I'm lovin'it with a side of America and McDonald's.
When did Rihanna get Brown'd?
Google, then watch the movie.
Honestly, this could have worked if it was advertised as an intentional comedy/parody of action movies, with all of the stereotypes and jokes and great action.
IMO even the island subplot is goofy bad enough to be entertaining. Also the geriatric af old men showing up to pretend their bones wouldnt turn to dust working that ship again and hitting on Rihanna. You're totally right, the movie totally knows its in its own goofy af lane and if you're down with it you'll have fun.
"its just this scene" precedes to play the 1 scene that i thought was good
God it’s crazy to think I was 10 when this came out. I’m 21 now. I remember watching this with my family. Time really does fly
I kind of like the idea that the aliens motives is left up in the air and not made stupid like in Battle: LA where the aliens are here for water. The most common chemicals in the universe.
There is surprisingly a LOT of lore on the aliens from battle LA if I remember correctly they are called land sharks and just lost a war(it is unclear if they fought themselves or another race), they were kicked off their planet and are desperate for a place to call home enough so that they sent everything they have, either they get earth or they all die. They aren't just taking the water it's the start of the terraforming process(I will say that I read about this a year and a half ago and my memory might be off).
@@frankpurvis9189 plus they’re cyberneticslly enhanced in sheer desperation; irrevocably shifting their culture and biology
Fun fact: the painting showed in the minute 11:16 is the representation of the foundation of Chile's capitol: Santiago. The leading guy was Pedro de Valdivia, the first man to direct an successful expedition to Chile and also his first governor.
Another fun fact: he died by getting his heart ripped off his body by Lautaro, who was once one of his servants and most trusted person Lautaro, who later became the main guy behind the indigenous rebellion against the Spanish Empire. Some versions of the story say that Lautaro eat it in a tribal ritual.
I know all of this because I'm chilean myself and I find curious that Cody decided to use this image in particular.
Maybe that was a subtle way to tell to Ir*n to "eat their heart out" .
dropping the achor and drifting is just top notch cinema, idk
I needed that break time, thanks.