My Advice For Newcomers To Goth || A Quick Ramble Answering Common Questions
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I tend to stare at gothic or alternatively dressed people, not because of judgement but because I like the style and I would look at them for 40 minutes just looking at every detail because I really appreciate it :D
Edit: obviously staring is still rude, but not everyone who stares at you is judging you or has ill intend. Some of them are just mesmerized by your amazing outfit!
I like to notice people.
I like to not be noticed.
Same !
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@@schonlingg.wunderbar2985 *WITNESS*
My advice to new goths is, prepare to be a 1st world problem magnet.
Very true! *giggles* :D xx
Ha ha lol, so true.
But I agree. Theres no need to be tribal. Thats a construct we as people make for ourselves
That's a very fitting way to describe our experience.
I am 24 years old and I am still exploring the gothic subculture before I feel comfortable identifying as a goth myself, so these videos are very encouraging and interesting to watch!:-)
We're all still exploring, which is why Goth is so transformative.
Yup! I’ve been told I’m alternative but I’m exploring all dark themed aesthetics before deciding which one describes me best. I know I called it aesthetic as I don’t really know what other word to use (if you don’t like me using the word then I apologise.)
It's very easy to identify as Goth. Simply enjoy Goth music. It is a music based subculture, afterall. :)
@@crazycasbahjive I'm on the same page, as you! (:
Same I’m 24 & I’m thinking about becoming goth but I just want to learn more about it
I'm actually starting to go Goth at 34. I'd always,wanted to, but I was very shy at school and didn't want to stand out, and then when I got older my career stopped me. Now I have a job where no one cares what I wear. I have been a pagan witch for 20 years but now I can wear my pentacle with pride and I figured that when it comes to going Goth, it's now or never! Wish me luck!
hey!!! hows it going lol
I don’t practice paganism but I am a witch and connect with the Goth aesthetic a lot for similar reasons :)
Wow!!! This is so inspiring! Keep it up! I also wanted to do thaat too lol. May we know what's your job?
Wowww, so inspiring, because I was just here thinking "Why the f* didn't I start earlier when I first felt like it". Been dreaming about "becoming" goth for years now. I've always been goth at heart and enjoyed the music a lot; now I think it's finally time to try to experiment with the looks too.
@@alienwinters8473 Go for it! You only live once and honestly it’s so freeing!!!
To me , a Goth is a person who feels this "romantic connection" to the death and macabre things , this sounds so wrong but you know what I mean. A Goth is a thinker , an artist and an enthusiast. Insulting a Goth is almost impossible , they're full with positive energy and great fantasy.
Maybe not so much a romantic connection, but I know what you mean. I see beauty in the things that society places stigma (like graveyards, classic architecture, classic literature, etc
ReeRee Phillips That's also a way to put it haha :)
I love how you’ve described it! People usually think goths are the most miserable and emotional people in the world but usually they’re quite excitable and full of happiness, we leave the emotional stuff to the Emos.
It's actually a music based subculture. If you are a fan of Goth music, you are a Goth. Everything else is secondary.
@@serenedisorder4786 it's roots lies in the music, yes.
being goth isnt about being sad and macabre that is reserved for emos lol
Björn Thor Gudmundsson that's stupid lol
KafKilljoy its a joke on stereotypes bruh
I laugh at this because although it seems like a joke it's true - I used to be involved with the emo.. 'Subculture?' and it was full of self harm, self pity and 'my only happiness is music'
MagicDuskieee well all stereotypes have to start somewhere
GothicAmadis Cruz Pacheco Vidimir the self harm/depression thing is the most notable thing about emo
not everyone sees the different shades of emo much like how every goth is grouped into satanic serial killers because thats how some of them tend to look and the rest look more satanic because of the resemblence
I get weird looks from people and I just wear totally black clothing, not really special clothing. I feel safe in these clothing, if I put vivid color to my clothing I feel really strange, except if it is purple. This has been for years, so my friends are used to it and I met new people who wear dark clothing as well. Never called myself goth, but I always have been interested in it. I am myself.
sameeee. everyone always seems to mistaken me as one or as emo which makes no sense but now im interested
I haven't noticed it much recently, but movies and TV shows make the bully out to look goth or punkish.
Oh yeah, especially back in the 90s and early 2000's. They're also portrayed as 'Druggos' too :/ xx
ReeRee Phillips it's very aggravating. I'm a nice person who loves animals and only drinks alcohol in moderation!
@@reereephillipsbeauty I've honestly seen more normies strung out on drugs but whatever lmao.
@@reereephillipsbeauty yup
I filmed this video a couple months ago, but hesitated to upload. I hesitated because I don't want people to take my word as the absolute word and best advice...its just me merely weighing in on a common situation that all of us alternative folk find ourselves in.
Love you all, and lets get a conversation started!
ReeRee Phillips love you !
ReeRee Phillips I love you.
ReeRee Phillips how long is your Hair? I have always wondered...
ReeRee Phillips thank you for talking about the symbols, not many people talk about that and I'm always explaining it to people.
Very Long. I can sit on my hair :P xx
Iv always questioned why people think the upside down cross is evil haha. Glad you threw that in there, very interesting.
Kris Fantom OMG, right??!!? I always have to explain this to people.
Kris Fantom because of American movies xd
Basically it started with films, "the upside-down cross has become popular within anti-religion groups and has appeared in films" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Saint_Peter
In truth its actually the burying of Judas it represents from what Ive heard.
@@thalia1206 Nothing wrong with anti- religion, though, unless taken to the extreme
I have been slowly transitioning to goth for the past 3 years. I love this video because it helps me feel so comfortable. I always get told I'm not a "real goth" because I don't wear make-up. and when I do, its more of a natural look. But that's what makes me comfortable. And watching this has really helped a lot. Thank you for being such an open and wonderful person
Same! I love goth music, dark things, gothic architecture, fashion, etc but hate wearing makeup
You dont need makeup at all lol, do whats comfy
I've actually found lately in the media, goth, or should I say, goth "type things" have become "cool," in a sense. Like all those dumb girls on tumblr wearing black and maybe a pair of creepers and thinking they're just so dark. Or when a celebrity wears a black lipstick it's always "yass goth queen," when there have been people beaten up and bullied viciously for expressing themselves. Just a pet peeve of mine, I suppose. And I remember this one episode of Criminal Minds where these two girls went to a concert, (they were sort of goth, but in one of the sub genres, I think it was cyber) and one of the girls killed her friend and drained her blood, and kept killing other people. It was pretty crazy.
C.J. Davis I remember that episode! (Although I don't think them being Goth was anything to really do with it; she had a severe case of Renfield's Syndrome and was being manipulated by the singer's manager) But I totally agree with the edgy tumblr shit, or people fawning over celebrities wearing dark makeup. When they do it, it's cool, but when I do it I'm a freak and should die? Yeah, get fucked.
I REMEMBER THAT
In criminal minds it wasn't because she was goth, it was because she was schizophrenic and had a blood paraphilia
@@sky19804 what episode is it I watch that show too
@@sky19804 what episode?
Thank you for knowing that Goth as a subculture has nothing to do with the Goths as a people. I tried to explain this to someone once and they took a hissy fit. :)
All good :) I love History, so I had to include the historical references of Goth,
Back in the 90s I bumped into some "mall Goths" that were adamant the Goth subculture originated with Hot Topic lol.
I always jump around between many different styles but they're all dark. I'm always jumping between punk, goth, alternative ECT. It just depends on what I want to wear. I always get harassed by people saying " you're not goth, you're not punk" and a whole bunch of crap. It's pretty tiring being harrassed for wearing what I want.
Thank you so much for this video. I need to show this to my parents and the rest of my family, cause they think that Goth is a bad thing and they're going by the stereotypes of what people know Goth to be.
So thank you so much! ^_^
Ypu're very welcome, gorgeous
ReeRee Phillips ^_^ ohh, she called me gorgeous! omg! thank you again lol
My parents stopped caring about goths being a bad influence and stuff because I showed them a show called NCIS where their forensic scientist is a goth but she’s the most positive and happiest person I’ve ever seen!
My fav Goth tv persona is Abby from NCIS. They always have her in a positive light.
Ikr! I LOVE her, she’s not your stereotypical goth. She’s one of the most lively people I’ve ever seen even if she’s a goth.
#LivingRocks
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@@todorokisfavouriteobject9109 Most Goths ARE happy....
I've been calling myself goth for over a year now but I still like to watch these videos because I'm still learning.
I'm goth, scene and emo as well as dressing gremlin core so I'm constantly learning about my fashion and where it comes from
So happy to see this video, I've been interested in the gothic subculture since I was around 8 years old, but I'm only now having the freedom to really get into it. This video really helped me feel less nervous about it. ♡
I thought "newcomers" said "necromancers"... only me!
torntigre me too
You're not alone.
Cybermancer here.
as a butch lesbian i've always felt a strong connection with goth girls because it's like we were both shunned in public school for being girls wrong and it wasn't a phase and now we're adults that look like this too so it's like, idk, i feel safe with goth women. it's hard to feel safe with anyone when you're butch so seeing someone heavily flag as an outsider like a goth just makes me feel like they're not homophobic probably and also quite understanding. also ngl goth girls are definitely my type lol
One of my best friends is a butch lesbianism and you just perfectly described our relationship. It's great.
ROFLMAO!!! Some 60yr olds ARE goth! I always loved dark fiction, Victorian times, black clothing, bats & ravens, skeletons & Halloween. We listened to weird, ethereal, experimental music in the early 70s . We listened to Alice Cooper and wanted a snake for a pet. We listened to David Bowie, Velvet Underground, Black Sabbath, Yes, & the Doors. In the late 70s, we listened to Bauhaus, Siouxsie & the Banshees, & Joy Division. Later, I listened to the Cure, as well. By the late 80s, we could finally find some decent clothing in actual, real stores, clothing that had elements of Victorian style. We could find dark purples & deep reds & we were pleased. Fast forward to today, some of us have gone through different phases as life keeps on; but still listen to the music, go out to smoke a couple of cloves & dance with others like ourselves. I'm lucky enough to have more than one good, Goth club in the area. So, please don't discount all of us 60yr olds. (Some of us still sacrifice an occasional goat; though afterwards we usually make them into a nice curry.)
Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath are not Goth, they are Metal.....
@@serenedisorder4786 I'm not sure that you understood what the previous poster wrote. Goth is a genre of music, but it's also sort of a mindset and a way of approaching the world. I'm not sure if this applies to everyone goth, and haven't run it past anyone else, but I'd say a level of introversion is included. And it takes from punk an acknowledgement that the world of mainstream culture is fundamentally broken, but whilst punk rages against it, goth instead seeks to avoid it and create a space where we can feel comfortable, be ourselves, and have our own sort of fun. And there's no reason whatsoever why someone couldn't have had that mindset before goth music even existed. Of course, the bands they listened to weren't Goth, because Goth hadn't been invented yet!
There's also no reason to limit yourself. I agree Black Sabbath isn't Goth. But so what? Paranoid is still a great song. The Velvet Underground isn't goth. But Venus in Furs could be played at any goth club without anyone batting an eyelid. The Doors aren't goth. But lots of goths love their music. Nico isn't supposed to be goth. But you could play her back to back with some Faith and The Muse tracks and struggle to explain why they are a different genre except for an accident of timing. There's other "before goth" stuff that a lot of goths like. For example Leonard Cohen, David Bowie or the band Suicide.
Don't let labels limit you. Explore.
Everything you said in this video is so real and literally good advice for the newbies
You're amazing and real good role model 🖤🖤🖤🖤
I randomly decided to do research on the goth culture because it was something that I was interested for a long time. Turns out that it’s more of a music subculture. I did explore the music side from what I could find. So far I like the symphonic goth music, but not enough where I would listen to it all the time maybe. I guess I’m more of a darkly-inclined person from what I’ve found.
I loved how you stressed that goth is what you make it ^^, I love how open-minded you are
It's still a music-based subculture though and she knows it.
@@thatbitchnoemieyes but too many goths nowadays conform to that. Being goth is also about individuality and not conforming.
Your outfit & makeup in this video really calls to my inner Slytherin!
Also, this video is great. It's nice to see someone who doesn't encourage newcomers to adopt the elitist mindsets, and instead to just be true to themselves!
I found this inspiring and insightful :) I hate those goth elitist types who look down on those who they deem " not goth enough ". pfffft there's no such thing.
"Goth is what you make it" - ReeReePhillips circa 2016 😊😊
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video :)
@@reereephillipsbeauty i love yo
Goth is what you make of it as long as you enjoy Goth music
Great video with a lot of great advice.
I love your outfit and makeup. The Green really POPS!
I really hate all those Goth stereotypes I see on TV. Saw one on Fraiser rerun on Christmas Eve and I had to correct my family members and tell them what the subculture is about. . This is why I do what I can to write novels with Goth Characters to refute all those negative stereotypes.
I have never seen 'Fraiser' (I don't think it was ever on Australian television), but pop-culture media are damaging to many subcultures and groups of people.
That is awesome that you write novels and dispel the plaguing stereotypes!
I enjoyed this video and your opinions and observations of the subculture. I'm 46 years old, have raised my kids and sent them to college, and am now realizing that I want to be free.....free in all aspects of my life and I'm really beginning to embrace and appreciate the diversity of the subculture. Once again, thanks for dispelling the rumors that surround this community. Great video!
I am not goth myself, but I really appreciate and am interested in the subculture. Most of all, i think it's so important to be accepting of all kinds of people; it is no one's place to judge someone based on how they dress/look. I actually really admire people who are brave enough to wear goth attire that is considered unconventional to most people. It's inspiring to see people like you able to express yourself outwardly and creatively (especially because I myself struggle with body image and often times am afraid to wear the kinds of clothes I actually like, because I fear others' judgment). We all should strive to be open-minded and caring towards all people. I would love to eventually live in a society where no one is scared to express themselves through fashion, makeup, music, art, etc,. I love your channel and your open-mindedness! Your videos are some of my favorites :)
I love the video. She is nice person and not judgements
Thank you SO much for this!! 🖤
It was so good to hear you talk about the centuries ago history of Goth. So many people 'just' refer to the 70s and even though that is fine so many getting into Goth focus just on 'the look' and 'the music'. You are so right about media and the perceptions of Goth.
Again, thank you for sharing this video, so glad that you decided to release it :)
You're more than welcome
The reason that 'gothic architecture ' was named so was an insult. It was felt the style was uncivilised and uncultured like the wild Germanic visigoths from the earlier period. In the modern context, the first documented using of the term to describe the music sub-culture was Anthony H Wilson of Factory Records in Manchester and he was describing the band Joy Division. The history is fascinating I think :-)
I'm not goth myself but I appreciate this video. Thank you!
I think the worst representation of goths I've seen recently was that goth couple from Total Drama: The Ridonculous race. They were still my favourite characters of the whole cast but my goodness they were the epitome of every goth sterotype.
The worst part about the Goth stereotype in that show is that Total Drama already has a good representation of a Goth person: Gwen. The show does a lot of things with her that break the stereotypes of what people think a Goth is.
To be fair, most of the characters on the shows were stereotypes so I think it was intentional
My advice: Do your history research! You don't have to like all of the bands out there, all the fashion style, etc, but know who the beginners of the movement are, what goth means, and where it comes from! You don't have to like Siouxsie Sioux's music to be goth, but know who she is!
Growing up I always thought goths just wore black but now I see that that's not the case once in a while I see some in red or green or purple but with a dark twist I love it!!
My latest obsession has been emerald green. I have been wearing it almost every day lately! xx
Black is still my favorite, but I also love dark blue.
You are inspiring to me not to become a goth but to be more creative with myself everyday. You are like an artist who goes to work everyday but it shows in all facets of your life and that is wonderful and inspiring.
I'm not really bothered by people staring at me, my clothes or my boyfriend. I just try to find it funny :p says a generally shy girl dealing with social anxiety haha. Some people (especially kids) seriously go out of their way to stare at you, that sort of makes me giggle. And you're very right, goth is what you make it. That's what makes you as a goth even more unique, liking the non generic. If every goth would be the same and follow the rules we wouldn't really be what we're going for, different.
Ikr! A few days ago there was an old lady looking at me like i was some kind of demon lmfao
I have been caught staring at goths when I was younger but it wasn’t because I found it weird but because I found them so interesting and they always look so nice even if they’re usually dressed in black and dark colours. I am currently slowly going into the whole gothic thing and I make my own clothing because I don’t want to ruin my own clothing just to make it my style, I’m just giving my old clothes that don’t fit me to charity and slowly started buying darker clothing.
@@takerunee lol, my great grandmother (she’s 95 this year) complimented my burning rose shirt that I got from Vans and she said it looked fancy but I do get the weird looks for simply wearing just a burnt rose shirt. Ngl, I kinda like being noticed as I’m often ignored.
Green looks so good on you!
Again a very interesting video.
I'm not goth but I have always had a black area in my heart.
same here
I love wearing my eye liner dark
I laughed a bit too hard when you talked about crime shows, its so true goths get such a bad rep, and then I remember the sweetheart that was Abbey from NCIS, her look was a bit cliché but at least she was on the 'good side'. Great video lovely
I love Abbey. She's awesome. Of course, I haven't seen the show in quite a while, so, I don't know if she's developed for the better or the worse since I last watched.
They starting writing Abby as less of the 'goth girl' and focused a lot on who she is and what relationship she has with Gibb's team. At first they focused a bit on her look, played to the whole she has a coffin, and shit to grab attention I guess.
Her style up until the actress left started to be less of a cliche and more her own personal style.
@@sigmaK9 she’s sadly left the team now but she was still one of the most adorable goths I’ve ever seen!
a few weeks ago, my new boss asked me what nail colour I was wearing. I responded: "dark green". He said: "You aren't a goth, are you?" - this shows that people judge so easily and they really don't know what goth means. I am not a goth and I don't even dress dark or in any way that a person would think I am goth (although I really like it).
thank you for being a beautiful person. people get really caught up in stereotyping themselves and putting themselves in a box. i am newish to gothic culture, but have always admired the fashion so having the affirmation that another goth just wants others to be themselves and express how they want to be goth is amazing. ive seen many youtuber's being judged and nit picked and i definitely dont appreciate it because people love to say all this hateful remarks that a decent person would never say to anyones face.
As a guy, thank you for educating me on the subculture!,I'm a huge Metal head! Subbed!
I'm very disappointed to find that there is no Goth Rewards Program. 😥
I know right? I wanted to cash in my reward points for another coffin #disappointedhorse
I'm new in "goth world" so I don't have a definite style and furthemore I'm only 16 so I don't have a lot of money and I think My style is full f mistakes but I really love this style and I hope I will be better
alessia amadei u can always go to Ross or something to look for cheap black shirts, go home, get scissors, a sewing kit, and re make that shirt!!! it's fun!
10Faced Creeper sorry what's Ross?
alessia amadei it's a store for clothes that are cheap because nobody has bought it ir there is too much of tht iteam, maybe u have a store like that but good luck!
alessia amadei your English is just fine :) ♡ thanks for posting!
The whole 'Goth is what you make of it' is not strictly true, you do have to have an interest in Goth music to be a Goth, otherwise you are just darkly inclined.... Other than that there are no restrictions to who can be Goth, it does not discriminate on gender, sexuality, race or any other factor
You posted this on my birthday last year in 2017! That’s when I decided to stop letting what others think influence my stylistic choices. What a gift for me! Such a beautiful video. I’m a new subscribers and I’ve binge watched a lot of your videos. Thank you for your content and helping me be more confident with myself. Love from California, US. 🖤💜
im a goth subculture lover and always loved the aesthetic and how artistic was everything, how people used to express an how goths was always "the strangers" but never feel comfy to say im goth since goths was always very pale and im mixed and live in a tropical country, so thx so much for your video this helped me a lot to figure my indentity as goth, i wish more ppl think like you
Hi, I'm a 43 year old goth, also a mother. Love the Victorian styled blouses and shirts an longer skirts.
Great video, thank you. I find Gothic fascinating and am starting to get into Goth makeup but I am, I think, a kind and gentle person and I particularly adore animals. I am very proud of my natural Gothic almond nails so have to wear gloves when doing building jobs to try to protect them! You look fabulous and seem to be a lovely person and a strong role model. One of my greatest wishes for humanity is that we all gave each other more freedom to be who we really are and look how we want to
You're such a positive example for new (and old) goths :)
Thank you, gorgeous
You are so beautiful and such an inspiration to me! I've been slowly dressing more goth and becoming more comfortable with it, as I don't like public attention at all, but I'm slowly starting not to care what others think, and that's thanks to you :)
I must say you have become one of my favorites. A new inspiration in my life, and very beautiful. And as far as the video topic, i agree with you. Im familiar with alot of it, being a part of the subculture for a few years. Well said!
i think people are misunderstanding Gothic subculture,they think we are all about Satan,black,pentagram,murders and stuff but in reality we are normal people but we just love darkness and darker things in life a bit more than others!
Ikr, I may be a goth and may like murder related things but I don’t like it when our subculture is misunderstood.
Suddenly curious about ReeRee's heritage. Would have never wondered if I didn't learn that other people are curious. Why am I like this.
As someone who is just fully embracing Goth (after years of peripheral interest), I find videos like this really useful & encouraging. Thank you.
I absolutely adore you. I'm slowly transitioning to the goth culture and style and you are a big inspiration. Thank you for giving me some self confidence, I truly appreciate you!
I absolutely adore your videos and advice! You are such a beautiful person with an even more beautiful soul! The passion you have in all of your videos is so refreshing! My favorite RUclipsr by far!!
Most importantly just be yourself and enjoy what you love while also taking in the history of our subculture. I love what you said about "Be open to learning"
More hair tutorials! You have beautiful hair 💗
I really appreciate this video. I am new to the gothic community and subculture, but thanks to videos like yours, I'm so comfortable with myself and accepting who I am and what I like. Thank you so much for the warm welcome!
Wait?! What?! You don't have murderous tendencies, and you're trying to make the world a better place?! How dare you?! ;)
So glad you are trying to change the minds of the masses on this and a positive experience. I was a pretty hardcore goth and goth dresser especially in my teenage years and now I like to change my styles all the time and done just stick to one, but I also think there is something so special about Goths, because they are often the most hurt people in life that I have known, but some just live the aesthetics and styles! ❤🖤💖🖤
I love, embrace and respect the Dark Side. I love to dress in dark clothing and wear dark eye makeup. There’s a dark side of myself that I didn’t know I had and want to explore. There’s a beauty in darkness.
Reeree I have to be honest with you, cause you did really brought a new meaning for Gothic with your flawless yet creative green make up+outfit, you look awsome.
I used to be Goth but my style was always on the line of Goth and Punk and I'm finally coming back , thanks for the reminder
Unpopular opinion: the use of occultic symbolism in goth clothing might be problematic. As someone who's Christian and goth I've found that the use of certain symbols isn't helping the stereotype that all goths are occultists. When I went goth and my mother did research online she became dead sure that I was joining some kind of cult. I get that many goths don't believe in what the original symbols stand for but it can't be helped that onlookers make the mistake that you do. It's like wearing the Swastika for for the aesthetic then being surprised when someone assumes you're a Neo-nazi.
I see your argument. However, my counter argument is that Gothic Architecture and Renaissance/Edwardian/Baroque/Victorian fashion plays a huge part with style and aesthetic within a lot of people and the way they dress. All of those elements and periods of history are greatly influenced by Christianity, hence the inclusion of crosses.
The reason why the swastika isn't acceptable is because of its modern application. It used to be a hindu symbol, but was adopted and now symbolically represents genocide.
Most of the symbols used in this 'occultism' and 'satanist' branches of religion/belief have simply taken symbols from Paganism, ancient greek, ancient roman and even Christianity (e.g. the inverted cross).
I grew up Mormon, and my family is still practicing Mormon/Christians so I understand the importance of the cross.
ReeRee Phillips Well that is true. Honestly it's a difficult situation since a lot of people are making judgments based off of misinformation. You know what the truth is but they don't. I guess I should just follow your advice and ignore them.
And your point is very well put too. Misinformation is very damaging. I think assessment situations is the best way to move forward (i.e. I wouldn't wear certain clothing/accessories around Mormon family members out of respect)
ReeRee Phillips It's always painful for me when I see a really cute shirt or accessory but the design has an inverted cross or something along those lines. My mother would drown me in holy water.
Either way thanks for responding to my comment. I often find that when I ask this kind of question I can't get any sort of meaningful response outside of people bashing my religion. It makes it even better that one of my favourite youtubers engaged me in a conversation. Keep being awesome! :)
I think my main problem with the symbols is that it's more about being edgy and offending people then telling them they're weak for being offended than being yourself. Goth in general society has evolved to be so disrespectful and obsessed with being "in your face". I can definitely see why everyone thinks I'm a Satanist despite me not wearing any symbols...
the sad thing is that lots of goths say lots of bullshit, like you should dress in a certain way, wear specific colors, make up... be sad?? LOL this is not the point of beeing goth right? even between goths people judges how you are dressed or your behaving... you are the only one who uses the brain!! honestly i can consider myself 50% goth because i like to wear anything i like, listen all genre of music, and read everything so i don't "fit" completely Goth, but why other people shoud hide their tastes and personality only for "fit" 100% the style they choose? that's silly right?
fun fact from pagan: the pentacle/pentagram is actually a symbol usually used to call on the five classical elements for assistance or protection
Thanks im a newcomer into the goth culture your view of goth culture is giving me many ideas of dressing up thank you
I never dress up as a goth, but I always like to read a lot of gothic novel books and I like to dream about a lot of gothic literatures. Thanks for the advice, I very much appreciate it. Stay happy and beautiful.
6:25 "very interested in murder" ahahahaha that phrasing though. 😂
I'm so happy you made a legitimate advice video. I have seen waaaay too many "if you don't do x, you aren't goth" posts on the Internet and it's about damn time that someone with their head on straight comes out and spreads the truth. 👻💕
You're very welcome
ReeRee Phillips I totally agree! I get how some people want to stay true to the roots of goth and that's fine. What many people fail to understand, though, is that subcultures have to evolve and adapt overtime, lest they be left in the past xx
Great points. Love your advice. Those of us in the various Goth genres are very diverse and I've only so far experienced other Gothly inclined to be encouraging toward diversity. That's why its so beautiful to see everyone rocking their own style and flair. So if anyone says or thinks Goths are against a persons individuality. It doesn't ring true to me. Otherwise we'd all look like clones. Thankyou for your video. You have such a beautiful heart.
off topic but your make up?? ATE!!
the eyeshadow color and the dots you put next to your eyes are soo cool to look at, you're fab!
I love your style, including furniture and music. I guess I lean toward Romantic, Victorian-type, as well as wear a lot of black, with jewel-tones, and you reflect that very well, with modern touches. Thank you for posting this. Not everyone understands the history (or, should I say, histories) and evolution of the goth subculture, and I appreciate you putting in the time and effort to speak on it.
Thank you for doing this, it really helped me with my confidence. You're doing good work here, many thanks for everyone I know who deals with these issues.
Great advice! You bring up very good points. My advice would be to not let it completely define you or take it too seriously. Just do you. 😊🖤
I really love how your hair look in this video!
Two shows I loved was N.C.I.S for the character Abby, she is one of the good guys and I love her!
The other was the short lived Canadian show Blood Ties, the character Coreen. I love her unconditionally!
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I'm actually starting to go further into the Gothic culture now at the age of 26, mainly because I didn't grow up in a healthy environment where my adoptive Mom especially didn't really like me being into things she considered "abnormal" and would sometimes point out these oddities and eccentricities as a reason that I have mental issues, Goth and me being into Wicca being 2 of them and I distanced myself from the Gothic culture due to being bullied by my Mom and being made to believe that there's something mentally wrong with me dressing like that. And for a while, she liked to dress me in what I can only describe as Normie Old Lady Clothes, very conservative, very plain, very boring and I never had an opinion on what I wore, anything even remotely Gothic was shot down. Leading to me not liking the way I looked and how I presented myself on top of my other issues with my body and my general appearance due to insults on my weight being thrown my way by my Mom. I finally decided to go for it now because I'd developed a bit of a thicker skin since then and I moved out when I was 20. I finally worked up the courage during quarantine to say "Screw it! I'm wearing to appease myself first, everyone else is in second place." It was scary since I have anxiety and still get anxious over people judging me. But I pitched the old lady clothes and bought my new Goth Clothes online, still waiting for the shipments but I'm already feeling better about myself being able to dress the way I want rather than what my Mom wants.
As someone who has tried at leadt 5 different style options throughout my 20 years of life goth is deffinetly whats for me. i tried pastel goth, kistch and none of it worked for me. thank you for making this video. im gonna send it to anyone who questions me now 😂
I love how u often add little dots to your eyes... so beautiful!
I just watched one of your food videos before this one, and I really liked it. So as far as what else I'd like to see on your channel, I'd love to see more vegan recipes! 😊 I'm getting into a more plant-based diet and seeing recipe and meal plan videos helps me a lot! ✨
This is a great informative video for those who want to know more about goth subculture and I love that you included it's history and even the meaning behind many of the symbols. It amuses me that people will think of goths as a cult or Satanists when so much of our culture run parallell or even were part of Christianity in some way. There are many goths who are Christian. I agree that the media's portrayal does not help fight the stereyotpes either.
I love the classical music in the background. Lovely to know, that all goth music doesn't have to be hard rock or whatever. I love classical music and del cabaret/circus music and Victorian classics etc
goth music isn’t hard rock. it’s postpunk and darkwave
I really love that you don't judge and are so open-minded :) And for what is worth, I think you are succeeding in making it a positive experience for everyone( concerning yt :) )
Have a nice day! ^^
Thank you :) I really try to make this a positive space. Life is full of negativity that is beyond our control, so why not try to create positivity? I hope you have a great day too
this was a really awesome video! whe I was in highschool I played around with the udea of going goth. The 'scene' trend was really big and I was into that but I kind of grew out of it when I found Gothic Lolita, I am pretty much in love with all things Victorian, as well as anything kawaii so lolita was just the greatest thing I have ever seen(I really loved the modesty of it as well being a Christ follower) but it is really hard to get your hands on, and after I became a mother it was seriously impractical, and I kinda fell into the trap of mainstream whatever I could find on the racks styles that were NOT me at all! And then I found your channel and I have really fallen in love with your channel, and your style and I have become inspired to start down my own path into the 'Goth world'. Thank you! You totally rock!!!
The best resources I've found about learning about the Goth (aside from watching youtubers), has been books. For me the goth bookworm bit when I started reading Goth Chic: A Connoisseur's Guide to Dark Culture by Gavin Baddeley. This book is super comprehensive and in depth. It was also a really great read (especially from a more historic point of view) and addresses not only music, but also film, art and fashion.
A few other good reads are:
What is Goth? by Aurelio Voltaire (This is a super short book and very tongue and cheek. Had me laughing out loud most of the time. Would highly recommend for people who aren't really into reading that much)
Some Wear Leather, Some Wear Lace by Andi Harriman (looks more specifically at the post-punk music scene of the 80s and is very picture heavy)
I've also heard really good things about Natasha Scharf's books, but haven't gotten a chance to read them yet. They are:
Worldwide Gothic: A Chronicle of a Tribe
The Art of Gothic: Music + Fashion + Alt Culture by Natasha Scharf
If there are some other books that people know of I'd love it if you replied to this with the title and authors. I love reading about the subculture!
Aurelio Voltaire is amazing. A very humble and intelligent man. I haven't read any of the others, but I will get my hands on them :) xx
I can't thank you enough for your words. I'm new to goth. In my life I was not allowed to be myself. Well now I'm almost 50 and have MS and have decided life's too short and I shall be myself. Your words are so kind and inspirational. Thanks.
Well explained ReeRee, you have a lot of knowledge of Gothic, from it's history to the post punk genre subculture. Victorian Gothic is a wonderful chioce you made. Eventually you can appreciate Corporate to Classy Goth. I encourage you to delve deeper into Gothic as there is plenty of choices and topics that you can love it for life. Enjoy you lifestyle choices.
This is a very interesting video and so helpful.
Especially for me, since I am still in a transforming phase from mass culture/ "normal" clothing etc. to the more gothy subculture. I wouldn't identify myself as a 100% goth because I am still very new and insecure about it and I mix a ton of rockabilly elements (mostly skirts) into my outfits.
But I have to thank you for your videos because even if I was interested in the subculture for many years and had a very similar mindset, I was to scared to dress like it. You as well as black friday, tocic tears and the goblin queen encouraged me to dress how I like and not how everyone around me wants it.
PS: I love history, so this video was like sweet candy for me.
That green on you is just absolutely ravishing! Love your hair in this too! I definitely agree with you here💜 Hope you stay safe :)
I love how you did your makeup and I love that green you're wearing. That color really sets off how you did your makeup.
Just because someone stares at you doesn't necessarily mean they are having negative thoughts about you.
depends of the stare.sometimes the way people look at you is so full of hartred and you phisically felt how much they hate you
the amount of debates i have with people that accuse me of being a satanist or accuse me of being a bad mother because i dress goth/alternative is ridiculous.
Excellent advice there for newbies to the subculture, thanks for sharing.
What’s interesting is that if everyone looked at themselves with true awareness they would realize that there is no “normal”.
“Theatrics” and “costume” are part of every segment of culture.
“Normies” have as much a complex costume and set of theatrics as Goth, or punk, hip hop, or neo-grunge, or “intellectual”, or whatever.
Love and respect is the key. Like someone for who they are. Boom! 💥
I've just stumbled across this awesome video again & I'm glad I did. It's amazing how we focus on different things as we progress, though, n'est-ce pas? This time, I'm loving the bed styling & that exquisite headboard (jealous!). Second, what is that colour green that you're wearing? It is to die for, literally! Third, Brandenburg concert (no.4, I think), awesome! Again, thank you for the amazing video.
Thank you so much for this video!
I've always loved darker colors and spooky things and am now looking into the music aspect of the culture. But I'm Asian and not slim like many of the goths I see on social media (thank you again for addressing that issue) so I have been really hesitant on actually "being?" goth. I'm also kind of shy to wear a full-on "goth" outfit and a full face of makeup in public because as you know, Japan is not really accepting towards "outlandish" styles or anything different really, unless you go to Harajuku or Shibuya and other fashion hot spots so my parents have told me to dial it down a little bit out of concern.
As for medias portrayal of goths, I agree 100% that what they're doing is offensive and not at all true because many of the actual goth people I look up to are amazing role models. Abby from NCIS is I think the only character that does goth justice in terms of portrayal, she is actually the reason why I decided to delve into the goth culture.
Anyways sorry for my rant, maybe I'll send you a picture of me when I've got everything or most things sorted out!