Natalia Grace #18 - (They just left) - Therapist Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to the documentary about Natalia Grace. Includes clips from The Curious Case of Natalia Grace.
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Dr. Kirk's "My God!" count is so high on this documentary.
Yeah, I'd much rather hear him say "My dogs are barking."❤
This whole thing blows my mind
Same thought.
Watching her struggle to pull that trash can up the walk-way just broke my heart. I know how this all ends having watched the series but she was very seriously wronged in so many ways.
I could tell she was 8. They left and 8 year old child with special needs in and APT and told everyone she was 22. That blows my mind yo.
They should both be imprisoned! They purposely manipulated the judicial system to re-age a child, then they completely abandoned her in an apartment and state by herself! There should only be prison sentences for them. At least 12 years for every year of childhood that they abandoned her for!
@@PurposelyObtuse absolutely. I can't believe they got away with all this.
Right?! And even if she were 22 she's still their daughter that needs assistance with everyday life. These people are monsters and only got away with it because legally she was an adult so they couldn't convict. That is a legal loophole I'd love to see closed but idk how! There should be a way to legally correct her age and then retry them but I have no faith in our legal system.
@@ThePaperbutterfly 100%
@@ThePaperbutterfly also I think it's illegal to treat special needs people that way. They were still responsible for her. They should have been able to get them on that. You can't take someone who depends on you like that no matter their age and just dump them like that.
I can't wait to see Natalia sue these people. I don't know if she ever will, because she seems a little bit people-pleasey. But one can only hope.
I would love to be taxed more to support children in difficult situations. Another thing we can all do is interact with our neighbors, and be aware of the kids in our communities. Our society is becoming more and more isolating, parents with kids need community
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just reminding everyone that in the US we use GAAP accounting which allows corporations to finesse their way out of taxes that would take the burden off of civilians like us
If you live in America, your tax dollars are just a drop in the bucket compared to what corporations dodge paying every year. While I agree that we are becoming more isolated, it's not going to change without large changes in legislation and higher taxes for the wealthy.
@@SavageMinnowso true.
One thing I found both natural yet telling/sad is how Natalia's voice and cadence is so similar to Cynthia Mans', especially when we consider their limited time together in the grand scheme of things. She's sought belonging her whole life and we can hear it.
Ya there was no excuse for putting her in an apartment. Even if she was actually an adult she was disabled and needed help!
Literally this
2:00 Saying 'One Joe Rogan' like it's a unit of measurement of crazy. 🤣🤣🤣
I think season 1 was telling the parents story, since that is what was revealed at first. Season 2 is what is revealed by Natalia as an adult and is now able to tell her story. That's why season 1 & 2 are so different.
I wouldn't even leave my 22 year old kid like this. Very strange and heartless.
Even if she was 18. You just drop her off? Even if she was able bodied. Still. I just cant! I m struggling. It hurts me so bad. I was one of those kids! But saved by my grandmother
Dr Kirk for president!!! Make America sane again!!!
The empathy thing... Not only was she only 8, but when you are so traumatised and struggling so hard to get your basic needs kind of met, I can imagine there's not a lot of headspace to worry about other people. Even thou now as an adult she seems so kind and understanding. Too kind I think
I agree. I dont understand why we dont have basic social programs. People talk abput family values and traditional families but where is the incentives for that? If you believe in that where are the faith based social programs? Parenting classes? Day cares? Social groups for relationships or marriages? Young people and parents need help. How about if you pro life have subsidies for people choosing that. We have an entire generations of lost lonely people. Absent parents. Failed marriages. Toxic relationships. Help people learn.
Why arent there programs in achools to teach real life skills? Cooking, cleaning, how to put a desk together 😂 basic economics?? Othet counteies have these things in schools. We dont. Its almost on purpose
8:24 I’m 35. I wasn’t taught ‘life skills’ like cooking or cleaning when I was a child due to neglect. I still struggle to take care of myself. It’s criminal to abandon and neglect a child like they’ve done to Natalia. Again, a child.
Trigger warning! Reminded me. One of our family friends. Indian woman & White husband. Wife met with an accident that burnt her alive. Onlookers rescued her under 1 year old infant before SUV burst into flames. Week after wife's death, cheating conservative White husband started dating several women all over US. He insisted on Infant traveling with him everywhere. But would want relatives or friends in each state to babysit his infant for 2 weeks straight in each state with no contact from him during each 2 week dating sprint. Infant now calls everybody mommy and daddy. But sits like a statue, reluctant to engage in any activity while staring down at any adult in the most unlikely way possible for an infant that is by now nearing 2 years age. Heartbreaking and hard to watch that baby have no sense of a primary attachment figure.
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1:32 It is not like someone would normally accuse a child of pretending NOT to be an adult. And if I was an adoptive parent to anyone that wasn't an infant, from another country with missing paperwork, and was considered disabled; I would hope to be understanding that I would access based on cognitive ability and work from there. If she was younger or older it wouldn't fcking matter. I chose to be the guardian. And if she had the obvious trauma of abuse by displaying over sexual tendencies, I would be understanding that this child has been exposed and totally doesn't understand a healthy relationship. Because it is NOT normal for a child. And it is not healthy for them to continue that behavior. I am already despising the parents. They chose to adopt and in turn abused an already damaged child.
Yes!! ❤ your list of solutions! I really hope I get to see some major positive systemic changes in my lifetime … I’m ready to vote for them!!
Imagine if all that money that went to medical professional about her age actually went to the surgeries she needed 😢
I don't understand how some ppl get dealt such an awful hand like Natalia did. Life is unfair
I wish Dr Honda would watch Our Flag Means Death, a bunch of queer pirates on a boat, in the first ep the main character repeat to the others the motto he created for when they "may come back looking totally fine but in the inside be mentally devasted by what they witnessed (...) remember the rhyme? We talk it through as a...crew!" and it's a gem of pointing out destructive behaviours, trauma, and how by communicating and creating community/awarness the destructive cycle can be broken
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I love that show so much and I think it can be a sweet treat in terms of acknowledging pain and creating healthy relationships highly recommended ❤❤❤
She was from another country. No support network. I came to the UK a fully grown adult. It was challenging
Even if she was not a child that would mean the Barnett's left a disabled adult alone to fend for themselves. Thats still bad they're just to not look like poeole who abandoned a child. I work with elderly people and I would get in trouble of I just left them to fend for themselves.
People still think she is a con. But it’s nuts cause there are dental records and bone scans. But even if she was 18. Which is wasn’t but let’s say she was, she would have needed a group home. Not what she was given
People want to be entertained, not to worry about the bigger problem, not to do something. It ends with the show and that's about it.
Yeah the first season was an acid trip of a dream. I think it is ridiculous that they had to have a second season just to cover the other half of the story. It is enraging.
Watching this my heart breaks
Poor Natalia! 😢 tragic story
Broken Harts on Max, reminds me of Natalia and Ruby Franke
Did they not try to kill her? I honestly believe that is what they were hoping for when they put her in that second floor apartment in an unsafe neighborhood. They thought it was only a matter of time before they'd be off the hook.
LEft her there and went out of the country? is that right? OMG I wouldn't leave a pet outdoors alone!
I can understand that a person you assume is 22 would seem really weird if they were acting like sn 8 year old. (I an talking about the neighbours not the parents of course)
If he does not promote, someone else will. It is substandard therapy. Hopefully, he finds a better sponsor. Everyone is trying to well in this crazy hyper inflation world.
I got whip lash from how many directions they kept pulling me to with thinking who to believe. Wait till the final scene in the last episode!
I don’t think he’ll be surprised or have a big reaction to that final scene, tbh. I predict he’ll just be sad about it. Sad about this girl’s life and circumstances. And I think he’s reserved the possibility all along that she could have legitimate problematic behavioral patterns because of her life
I really wish he would stop promoting better help.I've heard really bad things from about that
Yes I wish he would look into that
Oh no! Is it bad?
I had a great experience and actually tried them out.
I did not have a great experience either
I tried it out too it wasn't bad
Sponsored by better help OMG. I unsubscribed. No integrity.
People want to be entertained, not to worry about the bigger problem, not to do something. It ends with the show and that's about it.