It's really good that WION cover this important topic.. please do update for same topic in jan24 or july24 so we could see how much change is there in this sector in india
Hmm that's why india is growing at 8.5 percent GDP from the beggining of the year 2023!🤣😂 the worl'd slowest growing country with 40 percent inflation!
What is your GDP? How many bridges do you have? What is your country's literacy rate? Does your country have any space program and send anything to space? What is your country's share in the market of cars and motorbikes? How diverse is your country? What is the population of your country? How many CEOs have your country given? How many unicorn companies are there in your country? what is your GDP growth rate? How many billionaires are there in your country?
lol. Hunger Index made by the West? What does the West even know about India? I bet the people who visited India in 1990 at last lol. Because we have a thing here known as a ration card. With this card, anyone can get free food. Do you really want me to believe a table where Pakistan has a better Hunger Index than India? The country that is going through a civil war rn? LOL. Please, stop being deluded.@@VanDuc-hm6sp
First of all, good research Wion, I hadn't come across many of the points you've covered during my research. I'm writing a business paper on the topic of the semiconductor industry's potential in India. I can't write the following in my paper so I'm writing it all here Yes, there is plenty of intent from the government end to make India a hub for semiconductor manufacturing. Problem is just providing subsidies, making compliance easier (of laws which are already non-sensical btw) and 'dreaming big' doesn't work when it comes to producing cutting edge tech which needs educated professionals and merit. India has tried to become the hub of many things under Namo govt which is great, but, the root problem for the failure of many such initiatives lies at the fact that education in India sucks absolute balls, until and unless the entire higher education system is rid of bogus degrees, unqualified professors and dummy colleges we won't get anywhere. Hedonistic bureaucrats and politicians eat up all the money, while the MNC struggles with compliance, finding workers with practical skills, fight costly and EXTREEEMLY long litigation or arbitration over n number of useless compliances. I've personally seems so many company recruiters saying it to the face that the first 6 months to a year, the employees are just trained about basic skills that unis never taught them. We are becoming a cesspool of excess and mediocracy, our growth is on the back of the exploitation of middle class while the upper classes leave the country or invest abroad and the lower class chills in life living in subsidies and personal favours.
I read your thoughts very carefully and everything you wrote is correct. I am from India. But I think India was facing all these difficulties and problems in space technology also. It took time for us to succeed but eventually India reached the moon. It may take 50 years for India to produce good quality semiconductor chips but one day it will definitely happen. 😊😊😊
@@KonderGamingIndian R&D and hard work in research is the only way forward... India will get there. Newer generations are much more promising than the past generations who just came out of poverty and penny pinch.
THE ONLY PROBLEM 100s or 1000s of company have moved away or reluctant to move to INDIA is bureaucracy and false promises. If INDIAN GOV make provisions with appropriate platform for startups INDIA can grow exponentially and win the WORLD RACE in next 10- 15 Yrs.
Indian R&D and hard long steady work in research is the only way forward... India will get there. Newer generations are much more promising than the past generations who just came out of poverty and penny pinch.
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More than 70 years after independence the only Real Growth in India is the size of its population --- the rest is just a lot of noise, bombastic claims and delusions.
India will work hard to develop its own technology the same as China is doing now in the face of western attacks since the west will never share anything. May take decades but will reach.
I can already smell the hate here. But anyway, better to ignore them. First, they say we can't build toilets yet everyone has toilets here today. Then they say India can never reach space, but we did it. Now we will make this possible as well.
Everyone in India has a toilet is highly unlikely. India took one tiny step into space and you seem to claim it is a Space Superpower. India simply buys foreign components and license foreign technology to put together a finished product. India has nothing of any significance designed and manufactured indigenously.
India has no conducive business environment to attract any major semiconductor related investment. Red tape, poor infrastructure and supply chain plus poor protection of foreign investment certainly means this will not happen anytime soon and will remain a dream , no matter what WION tries to spin.
They have great plans with words. But India's problem is their workforce consists of too many talks and lacks the finishing touch. Check out their military aviation accidents. Check out their fallen bridges and dams. They started a fighter plane project back in 1986??? Completed around 30 years later. They build an aircraft carrier with sailors pissing off the deck. Their recent moon landing success required help from NASA, USA. If they don't solve this big-mouth problem, no way they can accomplish significant projects. By the way, they are excellent backstabbers and are never responsible for mistakes.
@NotABlindBeliever if there is one thing constant about time is it changes everything...... we have potential.... and the change will come... in my opinion, it already started 😃 ... it's just we have to do our part....
@@johnsmith-cw3woyou don't love your country?? Are you born to sea.. We are not investing enough and not planning enough... Say those things... I will agree..
It won't work. The Indian capitalists are too greedy. The rule sof the game in semicondutors is in the knowledge based economy. The ownership of patents and the lincensing is were the biggest profit margins lies. There are patents on designs ( the knowledge of how it works) and the knowledge of industrial processes (the knowledge how to build it). India is at the entry level of fabrication where they will have to manufacture with liicenses of both design and industrial processes. Their only way to make profits is by having lower production costs than their world's competitors. Which are mainly construction quality/price ratio, energy quality/price ratio, supply chain quality/price ratio and manpower quality/price ratio. The current situation is not favorable for high profit margins for Indian investors. Unless there are significant changes in Indian investors mentaliity my guess is there won't be any chances that those projects will succeded in the long term. The American owners of semiconductor patents will never tolerate that the Indian government engage in State funded R&D to build up, like China, a domestic portfolio of patents in design and industrial processes where the bigger profits lie.
Not sure it’s worth the big tax money here, we’ve more fundamental areas to be prioritized. India can still start slow in this game, good time to begin for all the infra improvements over the past decade.
Exactly ! China will not allow America to poke their noses in China's business; that is the reason China has surpassed the US even in semiconductor production. For India a dream is reality ! They believe that "if China can do it, India can do better; but sir why then is China's economy 5 times bigger than that of India's ?
@@Basic.handles would need a help from ''THE WEST'' with bans so local chip industry can grow. sound contra productive, but no one can build something good and cheap the first time. so even if India develop a chip, no one will buy it. (even customers from India) so no further development will be possible... now... with a little ban, local customers would buy the inferior chips if they are forced, and hope for a better development in the future.
@@johnsmith-cw3woWhats the problem for you?? Europe dosent makes any chips and we are in infancy stage. It is better to encourage startups rather than barking on others eventhough they dont have any semiconductor fab
All India people must contribute some part of Income to chip manufacturing companies in india For several years until it doesn't compete with TSMC company on global manufacturing level This type of contribute will improve semi conductor section in India also skill experience and support technology must be improved for this manufacturing
INDIA IF CHINS YOU ASK IN GOOD FAITH AND SIINCERITY ,YOUR FIRST ACQUIRE THIS KNOWLEDE OF ROBOTICS THE INCREASE TO MAKE MAKE MASS PRODUCTION STARTING TOMMOROW WITH THE IMNVESMENT OF CHIP MAKER FACTOTRIES OTHER TECHOLOGY
Nonsense. China has its own space station with no foreign technology & components and its own Operating System, the Harmony OS. China high speed train technology is like no other. The new and best Huawei chip is self designed and manufactured! China's nuclear plants are self designed and manufactured. Also, China's solar power, wind power, EV batteries, 5G, 6G, quantum communication, satellites, automated ports, hypersonic missiles and so much more that are all Chinese. What has India got to show?
Nonsense all hi tech gadgets China builds used foreign made chips all China can do is steal foreign intellectual properties and than copies it china does not want to invest in technologies like the west did in order to become what the west is now but took centuries in the contrary china pushes to be a superpower in just a few decades by -forces intellectual property transfer from foreign companies and then copies them since they are unable to invent anything and what they produce is of shoddy quality: all gadgets made in china do not last and need to be replaced after a few uses -debt traps entire nations -forces organ transplants -oppresses its own nice productive citizen We the western world need to reverse and accelerate the outsourcing of our economy to china and companies which refuse need to be boycotted -imagine shipping resources to china and than shipping back manufactured goods it is an environmental crime globalization only serves the shareholders and not the consumers since replacing the shoddy products once or twice.... is much more costly
Indian chips have made major breakthroughs thanks to the efforts of IIT Bombay - Indian Institute of Technology, and their energy efficiency is 33 times that of the traditional Western von Neumann architecture. This will allow India to lead the semiconductor industry and the United States will be far behind in fields such as autonomous driving and artificial intelligence.
lol…. You obviously know very little about semiconductors. There is a reason why only two companies in the world and they are in South Korea and Taiwan. United States is starting to build this capacity and is throwing hundreds of billions and yet it will take for ever. Now this does not mean no semiconductor can be made in India but how many nanometers? 14nm? Definitely not 3nm.
India still has no idea what's happening in the semiconductor world. That's what's said in the first part of the video. The government woke up and understood there is huge potential in it for us. Like the gentleman said on the video, by 2035 India might be in the 1%
It's really good that WION cover this important topic.. please do update for same topic in jan24 or july24 so we could see how much change is there in this sector in india
India even failed to buikd decent toilets...Bridges Collapse twice in bihar, Mizoram😂😂😂😂
You're enjoying yourself quite a bit lol
Hmm that's why india is growing at 8.5 percent GDP from the beggining of the year 2023!🤣😂 the worl'd slowest growing country with 40 percent inflation!
What is your GDP?
How many bridges do you have?
What is your country's literacy rate?
Does your country have any space program and send anything to space?
What is your country's share in the market of cars and motorbikes?
How diverse is your country?
What is the population of your country?
How many CEOs have your country given?
How many unicorn companies are there in your country?
what is your GDP growth rate?
How many billionaires are there in your country?
@@plusultra7258 Far Far Better than Hungerindex107 Endia....😂😂😂
lol. Hunger Index made by the West? What does the West even know about India? I bet the people who visited India in 1990 at last lol. Because we have a thing here known as a ration card. With this card, anyone can get free food. Do you really want me to believe a table where Pakistan has a better Hunger Index than India? The country that is going through a civil war rn? LOL. Please, stop being deluded.@@VanDuc-hm6sp
First of all, good research Wion, I hadn't come across many of the points you've covered during my research.
I'm writing a business paper on the topic of the semiconductor industry's potential in India. I can't write the following in my paper so I'm writing it all here
Yes, there is plenty of intent from the government end to make India a hub for semiconductor manufacturing. Problem is just providing subsidies, making compliance easier (of laws which are already non-sensical btw) and 'dreaming big' doesn't work when it comes to producing cutting edge tech which needs educated professionals and merit.
India has tried to become the hub of many things under Namo govt which is great, but, the root problem for the failure of many such initiatives lies at the fact that education in India sucks absolute balls, until and unless the entire higher education system is rid of bogus degrees, unqualified professors and dummy colleges we won't get anywhere.
Hedonistic bureaucrats and politicians eat up all the money, while the MNC struggles with compliance, finding workers with practical skills, fight costly and EXTREEEMLY long litigation or arbitration over n number of useless compliances.
I've personally seems so many company recruiters saying it to the face that the first 6 months to a year, the employees are just trained about basic skills that unis never taught them.
We are becoming a cesspool of excess and mediocracy, our growth is on the back of the exploitation of middle class while the upper classes leave the country or invest abroad and the lower class chills in life living in subsidies and personal favours.
I read your thoughts very carefully and everything you wrote is correct. I am from India. But I think India was facing all these difficulties and problems in space technology also. It took time for us to succeed but eventually India reached the moon. It may take 50 years for India to produce good quality semiconductor chips but one day it will definitely happen. 😊😊😊
@@KonderGamingIndian R&D and hard work in research is the only way forward... India will get there.
Newer generations are much more promising than the past generations who just came out of poverty and penny pinch.
THE ONLY PROBLEM 100s or 1000s of company have moved away or reluctant to move to INDIA is bureaucracy and false promises. If INDIAN GOV make provisions with appropriate platform for startups INDIA can grow exponentially and win the WORLD RACE in next 10- 15 Yrs.
Japan has 102 semi conductor plants, Taiwan has 80, US 76, China 70, Germany 20, SK 15. India? 😂😂😂😂
Indian R&D and hard long steady work in research is the only way forward...
India will get there.
Newer generations are much more promising than the past generations who just came out of poverty and penny pinch.
Everytime I hear about lndian technology, scam call centers come to my mind
Yes its a industry
Everytime I hear about scam call centers, dumb US citizens come to my mind
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it will definitely take time...
More than 70 years after independence the only Real Growth in India is the size of its population --- the rest is just a lot of noise, bombastic claims and delusions.
India will work hard to develop its own technology the same as China is doing now in the face of western attacks since the west will never share anything.
May take decades but will reach.
14 nm tech is few "decades" old ? are you talking from future ?
I can already smell the hate here. But anyway, better to ignore them. First, they say we can't build toilets yet everyone has toilets here today. Then they say India can never reach space, but we did it. Now we will make this possible as well.
I'm skeptical but then again. You guys gave us Srinivasa Ramanujan. So who knows if you'll achieve it.
Live good with your neighbor and you will learn a lot 😢
Everyone in India has a toilet is highly unlikely. India took one tiny step into space and you seem to claim it is a Space Superpower. India simply buys foreign components and license foreign technology to put together a finished product. India has nothing of any significance designed and manufactured indigenously.
everyone has toilet in India?
I saw your comments, I know why India can't solve toilet problem.
India's semiconductor dream will face what Chinese dream is facing now when India will decide to Develop indiginous
@user-ii2lm6kg2gJealous 😂😂😂 Do britain have any plan to go further in this sector???😂😂😂
@user-ii2lm6kg2gcry and cope
India is making progress.
India has no conducive business environment to attract any major semiconductor related investment. Red tape, poor infrastructure and supply chain plus poor protection of foreign investment certainly means this will not happen anytime soon and will remain a dream , no matter what WION tries to spin.
They have great plans with words. But India's problem is their workforce consists of too many talks and lacks the finishing touch.
Check out their military aviation accidents.
Check out their fallen bridges and dams.
They started a fighter plane project back in 1986??? Completed around 30 years later.
They build an aircraft carrier with sailors pissing off the deck.
Their recent moon landing success required help from NASA, USA.
If they don't solve this big-mouth problem, no way they can accomplish significant projects.
By the way, they are excellent backstabbers and are never responsible for mistakes.
you will be proved wrong like all others.
@NotABlindBeliever if there is one thing constant about time is it changes everything...... we have potential.... and the change will come... in my opinion, it already started 😃 ... it's just we have to do our part....
What you say in peace a Chip again pice coil wire going around 360 times
Hi, Does it mean, Micron will keep manufacturing CPU Chips from US and OSAT kind of stuff will be done in India.. right ?
You can deal with the mother of mirco chips what is china
India has a proud tradition of religion that is world famous. Religion check instead of reality check.
and Nationalism !
@@johnsmith-cw3woyou don't love your country?? Are you born to sea.. We are not investing enough and not planning enough... Say those things... I will agree..
@@vikasreddy3603 There is nationalism and there is nationalism... some people love their country too much... like people in NAZI Germany.
@@johnsmith-cw3wo not all country people are not included... How is it nationalism
@@johnsmith-cw3wo you know, everyone can see what's happening in your country..
PAKISTAN, best chips in the World ! 💪💪
Potato chips or banana chips
They are not talking about Potato chips. Lol!! Btw, Pakistan doesn't even have the best Potato chips too.
The India railroad can make it
It won't work. The Indian capitalists are too greedy. The rule sof the game in semicondutors is in the knowledge based economy. The ownership of patents and the lincensing is were the biggest profit margins lies. There are patents on designs ( the knowledge of how it works) and the knowledge of industrial processes (the knowledge how to build it). India is at the entry level of fabrication where they will have to manufacture with liicenses of both design and industrial processes. Their only way to make profits is by having lower production costs than their world's competitors. Which are mainly construction quality/price ratio, energy quality/price ratio, supply chain quality/price ratio and manpower quality/price ratio. The current situation is not favorable for high profit margins for Indian investors. Unless there are significant changes in Indian investors mentaliity my guess is there won't be any chances that those projects will succeded in the long term. The American owners of semiconductor patents will never tolerate that the Indian government engage in State funded R&D to build up, like China, a domestic portfolio of patents in design and industrial processes where the bigger profits lie.
Not sure it’s worth the big tax money here, we’ve more fundamental areas to be prioritized. India can still start slow in this game, good time to begin for all the infra improvements over the past decade.
*further big tax money
Exactly ! China will not allow America to poke their noses in China's business; that is the reason China has surpassed the US even in semiconductor production. For India a dream is reality ! They believe that "if China can do it, India can do better; but sir why then is China's economy 5 times bigger than that of India's ?
@@Basic.handles would need a help from ''THE WEST'' with bans so local chip industry can grow. sound contra productive, but no one can build something good and cheap the first time. so even if India develop a chip, no one will buy it. (even customers from India) so no further development will be possible... now... with a little ban, local customers would buy the inferior chips if they are forced, and hope for a better development in the future.
@@johnsmith-cw3woWhats the problem for you?? Europe dosent makes any chips and we are in infancy stage. It is better to encourage startups rather than barking on others eventhough they
dont have any semiconductor
fab
You need to talkbwith tsmc and send army to taiwan.
what India need is to start with potato chips.
OMG. India can do it's? Hallucination may be?
Havva bnane me Modiji famous hai, kaam kich nahi😂
Fool radio system know more about that chips then construction contractor
India you never get two silicon wire
Noone can't stopped India to get what India wants, and you're nothing front of those ants who tried to stop india to gain anything.
India..semi conductor..? 🤭🤭🤭
😂😂😂😂
All India people must contribute some part of Income to chip manufacturing companies in india
For several years until it doesn't compete with TSMC company on global manufacturing level
This type of contribute will improve semi conductor section in India also skill experience and support technology must be improved for this manufacturing
AMD
INDIA IF CHINS YOU ASK IN GOOD FAITH AND SIINCERITY ,YOUR FIRST ACQUIRE THIS KNOWLEDE OF ROBOTICS THE INCREASE TO MAKE MAKE MASS PRODUCTION STARTING TOMMOROW WITH THE IMNVESMENT OF CHIP MAKER FACTOTRIES OTHER TECHOLOGY
He hope by 99yrs nobe of guys can't find any of these chips
Because it India railroad network could have signed also
Potato chips or memory chips?🤣
Masala chips.
Potato Memory Chip
Even in potato chip making India is lagging behind most countries.
@@hasanmahmood8078Please we are not talking about Pakistan that can barely make a potato chip 😅
A very tragic loss of three Ukraine pilots. Training accidents are among the very worst things that happen.
In Chip production India is in baby stage😂😂😂
It is like China using foreign tevhnologies
Nonsense. China has its own space station with no foreign technology & components and its own Operating System, the Harmony OS. China high speed train technology is like no other. The new and best Huawei chip is self designed and manufactured! China's nuclear plants are self designed and manufactured. Also, China's solar power, wind power, EV batteries, 5G, 6G, quantum communication, satellites, automated ports, hypersonic missiles and so much more that are all Chinese. What has India got to show?
Nonsense all hi tech gadgets China builds used foreign made chips all China can do is steal foreign intellectual properties and than copies it
china does not want to invest in technologies like the west did in order to become what the west is now but took centuries
in the contrary china pushes to be a superpower in just a few decades by
-forces intellectual property transfer from foreign companies and then copies them since they are unable to invent anything and what they produce is of shoddy quality: all gadgets made in china do not last and need to be replaced after a few uses
-debt traps entire nations
-forces organ transplants
-oppresses its own nice productive citizen
We the western world need to reverse and accelerate the outsourcing of our economy to china and companies which refuse need to be boycotted
-imagine shipping resources to china and than shipping back manufactured goods it is an environmental crime
globalization only serves the shareholders and not the consumers since replacing the shoddy products once or twice.... is much more costly
the difference is Indian only talking, but Chinese are humble and working.
@@KayyHong😂😂😂😂😂
Indian chips have made major breakthroughs thanks to the efforts of IIT Bombay - Indian Institute of Technology, and their energy efficiency is 33 times that of the traditional Western von Neumann architecture. This will allow India to lead the semiconductor industry and the United States will be far behind in fields such as autonomous driving and artificial intelligence.
Its a dream 🤣 just woke up bro
lol…. You obviously know very little about semiconductors. There is a reason why only two companies in the world and they are in South Korea and Taiwan. United States is starting to build this capacity and is throwing hundreds of billions and yet it will take for ever. Now this does not mean no semiconductor can be made in India but how many nanometers? 14nm? Definitely not 3nm.
India still has no idea what's happening in the semiconductor world. That's what's said in the first part of the video. The government woke up and understood there is huge potential in it for us. Like the gentleman said on the video, by 2035 India might be in the 1%
Troll account.