Super Mario War - The Fan Game That Pushed The Medium Forward
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Whew! Sorry I disappeared for a bit there. In this episode of Jonii, we take a look at one of the most innovative, feature-filled, and customization community oriented fan games of all time, Super Mario War. Created by Florian Hufsky in the early 2000s, this game took the Mario Bros. arcade concept and pushed it into the modern day, boasting a ton of different modes and features.
In this video, I explore how the game came to be, its vast feature set, its community, and how everything ultimately slowed down and went quiet.
Download the game here: github.com/mmatyas/supermario...
The Manic Pineapple: / @themanicpineapple8772
PushDustIn: / pushdustin
EpicMartin7: / thatonemart1ni
0:00 - Intro
2:12 - Development/History
5:09 - Gameplay
6:55 - Game Modes
21:25 - The Community/Additional Content
26:56 - Mods/Ports
30:12 - RIP Florian Hufsky
33:00 - Super Mario War: Stomp Arena and Other Oddities
35:55 - Source Gaming
39:26 - Outro
40:24 - End Card/Items
Written, edited, and voiced by Jonii
Additional voiceover by The Manic Pineapple 
Игры
Hey, while I'm still watching the video, I'd like to say great work and thanks for shouting our name out - I'm an editor and writer over at Source Gaming! However, to be quite honest at least from my perspective, Super Mario War was more of like epicmartin7's passion project! If anything, I truly say most of the credit goes to him.
This game's been around for almost 2 decades? How come I've never heard of it!? I would've played this for hours as a kid.
I had it downloaded in my original Wii since 08 it’s so fun
my exact reaction! I would have LOVED this in middle school and so would all my friends, damn!
Me too. I really heard about it online.
@@jeremysalinas2463 I had it on my Wii but it would fucking crash
@@nullset2 my version would as well, every few games it exit out or something but still a cool game no doubt.
This man has the commentating and editing skills of a channel with at least 200k subscribers
This will look silly when he has 1 million :)
@@blehhg2961 Yeah :D
Holy crap wtf, I expected a few 100k.
I have subscribed. He deserves it, this is amazing. Editing is funny as hell too.
He's earned my sub for sure lmao
Nintendo should have made this official for 35 years of SMB.
I remember playing this game way back in the day, when I first began modding and using my Wii for Homebrew. I originally learned it to simply play Project M, but I realized how deep the rabbit hole went, as and experimented and downloaded all sorts of games from then on. Super Mario War was one of them, I had downloaded it just to see what it was about, and my brothers and I were hooked after that, having a ton of laughs and good memories from it all. The game has popped into my head from time to time in the years since, hearing nothing about it, or any single RUclipsr talk about it. And here you are once again, coming in clutch, lol. Great video, and I had no idea of the sad backstory and passing of the creator, as someone who has struggled with depression throughout my life, that was upsettingly shocking news. May he rest in peace, and I hope this game continues to gain more than cult status and bigger support in his absence. Long live Super Mario War.
RUclips algorithm threw me this video today.
One big question I want to know since I think it was never mention in this video...
how did this game got under the Radar of Nintendo's Cease And Decease arms? esp with so many "ports" made for it and the amt of "nintendo assets" fans made.
or nintendo don't touch fan games that are not base exactly on their games?
I've rarely seen Nintendo kill fangames that are build from scratch/not rom-hacks
the only examples I could give are Pokémon fangames because TPCi is yet another beast lol
@@abarette_
oh so that means those games that got CnD from nintendo are build off their rom architecture mostly eh?
@@abarette_ That and if said fangames are being profited off of/the site they're hosted on is profiting off of them (Which is why they likely tend to target Kaze)
I think I'll throw my thoughts in here too. Super Mario War was from a time when C&Ds from Nintendo weren't really happening. It could be that info about takedowns didn't travel very much back then, but I don't remember things like the Pokemon fangame takedown or AM2R happening in the 2000's and early 2010's.
Yooo I love your sound design man
this game sounds like it would be an absolute hit on twitch with netplay. ive always wanted competitive mario experiences to get more attention, and this sounds perfect. certainly better than mario maker 2's online vs stuff 🤢
Yeah, I thought this is what SMM2 would be
I almost teared up, i've made like 500 maps and some crappy skins for this game back in my highschool days, and is ultimately what drove me to make games of my own. Unlocking the secret bosses in the april fools edition was still a pretty awesome addition
Have you shared any maps online? If you did do you remember what your nickname was?
@@TheDream64 Yeah, my name was Llel92 on 72dpiarmy. I had a megathread but all the links and images are dead. But I can upload my personal build that had all my content & some of others, but I'm not sure that i can posts links in these comments.
@Onjai yeah I have some of your maps. Looks like most of them were for a mod named "custom mario war." Also I have a world named "Super Mario Land IV"
@@TheDream64 not sure about the custom mario war, maybe like 30/40 maps needed different tilesets, and yep that's my world lol
The CD-i Ganon section had me rolling, I love when people get this creative
Also I have no source for this but who knows if Super Mario War ended up being an influence for Duck Game, considering some surface level similarities and equippable shoes that would let you stomp others just like in SMW
EDIT: The Bomberman Generation mention was pretty cool (I also grew up with that one) but the item minigame for the winner of a game was a staple from almost every Bomberman game (I think it was starting from the DS games and on that it was axed). Atomic Bomberman had one that was a literal roulette, and I bet that there are some other few ones that also had a roulette as well.
This video kept getting buried in my 2000+ items long "watch later" playlist
So glad I was able to watch it. Amazing production value; what an amazing contribution to the community
I wasn't very experienced when I made the skin editor, what kinds of problems were you having?
I don't know when it will happen but I plan to make a new editor and maybe even see if I could assist development with the game some time in the future
Thanks so much for giving it a watch, the compliments, and for your contributions to the community. I think it ended up being a compatibility thing, I managed to launch it eventually although I didn't spend much time learning how to work it.
I'd love to see a new editor and any future developments on the game. Making this video got me back into it a bit and I have a new appreciation for the dev team and community. Thanks again for the comment!
Dude, i'm from Brasil and remember to love playing this game like 13years ago with friends the game was spread worldwide for sure, amazing job on the video it deserves to be on Netflix or some thing men, amazing job on reporting the history of the game congrats, you made my whole week :,,)
Awe this comment gave me a big smile! Glad you enjoyed, thanks a ton for the nice comment.
Here from Brazil too, this game was fire :D
You just triggered some really good memories with this game in my modded Wii, I can't believe the ammount of investigation you put for this video
Thank you
Hi everyone! I'm Hexelectron, the creator of the Super Cat Wars mod. I saw this video and I thought I'd like to remind you that SCW's development is still going well :P
I mostly post updates on my Discord server for SCW, which you can find in my RUclips channel.
And yes I'm composing some new tracks for the game with DonnieTheGuy and Wowymolly on my side.
ps. I was once agenthexagon, just changed my name. I'll fix the credits once I finalize the game's assets to completion.
Mod block is inverted behavior from the Pow block (kills enemies in the air rather than grounded ones)
I am one of those "low profile reviewers" who talked about the game ages ago and when I made the review I never really focused it on its rich history, just the overall gameplay, how much content it got and how easy it was to make your own skins and levels. Watching this review was really interesting because of that. I never knew that it was a remake of a DOS game, about the many ports, the new forum, the revivals actually going anywhere and, most unfortunately, the fact that the project was abandoned after one of the main devs passed away.
Thank you so much for making this video, you made me want to play this old classic once again.
remembered super mario war from a wii homebrew but didn't know how much history it had. thank you for posting this video it was very well made!
Jesus, did not expect this story to take an incredibly sad turn. I hope Florian's friends and family are able to heal from that. :(
Seeing this vid made me realize just how many skins have been added to the game since I last played Super Mario War.
I used to go hard on customizing the game; adding maps, making skins, and adding a bunch of different music themes from my collection.
Theres about 5k maps and an even greater number of skins
This video has so much passion and care put into it, amazing work!
With this much passion, it feels like this video could restart the community once more!!
Omg I have good memories of this game. A friend had this on a hacked Wii and it brought a bunch of friends together I knew in university for some hilarious chaotic gaming.
This is my new favourite RUclips channel, what the hell. RUclips Recommendations finally treating me well.
Going off from what people are saying about SMBX, there's not only been a ton of community made content like custom graphics and entire games made within SMBX, but there's been two new significant versions made in the past few years, SMBX2 which is the original SMBX but with lua support and tons of new features and SMBX38A which is a new version made from the ground up. I'd love to see you talk about these, especially with the lua and teascript support that lets you make entirely new enemies and custom scripts. Great video!
You forgot boss battles ! btw i'm glad to see this video about a game i played 10 years ago and no one of my friend know the existance of it, so underrated game
Absolutely lovely video. Sorta wished I knew about this game earlier lol.
I don't know how I hadn't found this earlier, but it's an amazing video! Lots of stuff I didn't know about the game, especially on the history of it, great job.
What a great fucking video, well researched, well narrated, informative and sheds light on a subject not a lot of people know. This deserves way more views. Subscribed
Thanks so much for the pick-me-up, happy you enjoyed!
This is some real good content, underrated as shit
My Childhood Is Complete THANK YOU!!!! (I Played This game Over 3 Years Ago And It Was Lost On My Old Windows 7 I forgot The Name Till 3 Years later I Saw This Video) THANK YOU!!!!!
And now, out of nowhere, there's a RetroArch core (Super Bros War). Amazing video, I like your sense of humor.
I think no gfx or anything is included since the guy who did it was afraid of copyright issues.
@@TheDream64 Makes sense.
I'm pretty sure that's just the normal Yoshi's Island egg sprite, although, maybe it's had a bit of a palette change.
also, not a cucco, it's a chicken from Harvest Moon.
I can't believe this game slipped my mind. Equal parts heartwarming and heartbreaking, RIP Florian
Hope you know you've left something people will enjoy forevermore, also brilliant move to make it
open source from the start. Should honestly go back and play it, also feel like in a way it's a predecessor
to Sonic Robo Blast 2 and SRB2 Kart in terms of y'know. Open source, highly moddable fan game.
Truly a testament to the team's dedication, also a million thanks to you for making this
and everyone who helped, sidenote: While it doesn't seem to have the same pedigree
I also tracked down Mushroom Kingdom Fusion, as I got flashes of memories while watching
some of the SMW footage. That's another revisit, or first time for those who missed it back then
You went super in depth with this, and it's great
seeing everybody edits broke my heart
I never heard of this and now I really wanna play it. Thanks for recommending a game I’m gonna get hours out of.
Watching this video nowadays apparently *the link that you can download the game seems to be dead now* not sure if they moved on or or they still have the game per serving some other website but it feels that Marks an end of an era
Just found your channel through the almighty algorithm, and I must say I like your stuff
You've got that cybershell internet lore mind meets OLD SCHOOL egoraptor energy. Love your topics, voice, editing skills, and happy to sub and see what you keep doing! Good going, man!
Gosh, it's been so long that I don't play this with my brother. I feel so nostalgic now.
really admire the level of detail that you put into this video. i've watched a few of your other videos and can now say i'm officially a big fan and have subscribed, looking forward to more content!
2:06 I don't know if you've noticed, but you managed to match up "kill two birds with one stone" with the exact rhythm of the cover of 1-1 being played
Memories flooded back when you showed Everybody Edits footage
Such a good game. I used to play it on the daily
The info of Florian having died nowhere was such a shock to me especially cause hes Austrian, he didnt deserve such end...
Hat sich leider das Leben genommen, er war damals in der Piratenpartei aktiv, als die noch stabil drauf waren.
@@sneg__ Die Piraten haben nur existiert damit gute Parteien wie die KPÖ irrelevanter gemacht was man als eines der größten Verbrechens des 21sten Jahrhunderts ansehen sollte...
this video was so entertaining, you've got a knack for this stuff dude!
Fell asleep while watching and dreamed with this game.
Broooo, duuude, I played this like everyday as a child, I even bought this cheap usb controllers just to play this game with friends. I wanted to know more about this game and I'm really surprised on how uncovered this topic is on RUclips, Congratulations on your great work and I really hope you grow really really big, you really deserve it❤️
Thank you so much! A lot of the reason I made this video is the stuff you described. I loved this game as a kid and I was shocked no one took on the task, so I was happy to do the job myself. Very very happy you enjoyed the video and thank you again for the kind words.
Yooo I remember this game, I got it from a flea market for my Xbox and absolutely loved it
34:50 I just noticed that you have two songs playing at the same time in the background.
What a fantastic video man, you're by far the most underrated youtuber right now. Keep it up bro, you'll hit it big!
I used to play a variant of this on a homebrewed wii.
Good shit.
I’m glad I found this video. Very informative and entertaining!
I remember hearing about this game! Such a fun video on it, and a little piece of internet/gaming history! Thank you so much for making this! ^_^
oh fuck yeah, I thought no one else remembered Giacomo and Oreste
i remember randomly finding this game when i first hacked my Wii and i liked it. i had no idea it was this extensive of a background.
holy shit i remember getting super Mario war when homebrewwing my wii for the first time. I didn't know like any of the history!
I played this so much as a kid in 2006. It was before they had that fancy menu I'm pretty sure. Spent lots of time in the level editor and playing multiplayer huddled around the keyboard. Good memories.
Edit: Yep I was playing on 1.1. All these different game modes are new to me!
Wow... I discovered it back then around 2008 (I think) and as my young self, I never realized it had a whole community nor how it's practically the 2nd to doom in terms of portability.
It's a shame that it's become a lost gem, but I'm glad it's still known and still kicking.
Know what? Think I'll go and play a few rounds again, for old time's sake. :')
Nice to see this game is still alive! I literally started playing the first version of the Mario War that Poletto made when i was at school, so i was super happy to see the huge upgrade that the super version brought. Hope that Nintendo don't do anything legal to destroy this game like the precedent mario battle royal
I missed this game when i was younger. I remember seeing it online but never playing it. What a video. Sick Job.
Wow, I have never been this invested in the backstop of a fangame before, not even any of the countless Pokémon ones I like. Lol.
This is certainly intriguing to me. :)
Why did my phone autocorrect "backstory" to "backstop"?
I hate autocorrect. Lol.
Holy shit I remember this game, I played it when I was a kid and only recently, I started remembering a Mario game where you were fighting 3 other people trying to jump on them...
Super Mario War is a fun game. I wish I had more friends to play it with.
bro i wish i had ANY friends to play it with
@@molnarbeton6596 I know your pain, bro.
i love it im playing it on the psvita
Oh my god, this was such a good video. I had a lot of fun watching! I can't wait for the next video.... ;)
I'm glad you enjoyed it, my man! I can't wait to see the next video myself. ;)
HOW Do YOU ONLY HAVE 590 SUBS. THIS QUALITY IS OUTSTANDING
I played this as a kid, I forgot this existed. Thanks!
I did not know this was so involved. I might try to play this soon
I can't wait to see this channel blow up the way it deserves
I love this style of content, I’ll drop a comment and sub
7:47 You can play as the butterfly from the MSN logo?!
Jon where's the Goldfish hentai you promised me
When is the Year Of Luigi video coming out?
The snack that simps back
I REMEMBER PLAYING THIS BACK IN LIKE 2007 AND FOR 2 YEARS I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND IT AGAIN! the closest I got to was super smash flash but I KNEW that it was not the game I played back then. I remember playing this at my parents office when I was young it was one of the only games the shitty old fat windows xp laptop could run besides the game where you beat up a big round guy and got money for it where you could then buy new weapons to torture him with (pretty dark but it was very cartoony). I can't wait to play this again. thank you so much! Very sad to hear the creator took his own life :( to many great people in this world go that way. He gave thousands of people fun and joy. What a legend. Rip Florian you goddamn legend. If heaven is real I'll thank him as soon as I see him when I pass
The game that started a war against copyright
Nice video! I had heard Vinesauce mention Super Mario War while watching his content, and figured I’d look it up. Definitely going to download and try it out.
missed this game me and my brother used to play it everyday i will never forget the laughs
and i found this on forums thx for the video
Very impressive video! I even saw some of my content in there 👀
It is definitely a remarkable game that still deserves recognition even decades later.
I _was_ considering doing a totally not ambitious rewrite of the game myself, but since I already have other projects that'll remain as just an idea for a while...
i remember playing this as a kid but didnt remember its name
thanks to this video now i am going to play it again and revive some good old memories 👍
Lol, your script / (and off script) comments had me cracking up.
Great video, I've never heard of this until today and now I actually want to go try it, I think I will. Thanks man! You got a new fan. Nice vids. I'll be watchin' more.
Yo I remember this game I used to watch tons of videos on the custom games on here when I was young and played flash versions so much nostalgia I got reminded from a qzec video this was part of my childhood
I remember getting this on a hacked homebrew Wii
War.
It brings so many together.
How have never heard of this??? This would be AMAZING for parties
i remember watching people play this game all the time it was amazing
Super Mario War was the one fangame I was sad about back when my modded Wii died.
back then i used to play this game nonstop i sometimes edited the gfx as well and just overall good times
found the wii port browsing for homebrew a few years ago, and had a blast with a friend
I remember my dad got this on our wii back in the day, it kept crashing but I always had a blast :)
R.I.P Florian Hufsky.
Imagine it being around 2006-2007. RUclips was just coming up and Flash was the hot new thing everyone and their mother was trying to build upon. I myself have been finding fangame after fangame all with new stuff I was eager to figure out on my own. A new mario game that had worlds I'd never seen before. New powers, new mechanics. All through these shady websites that honestly looking back, I'm ashamed of downloading from. But I had the time of my life finding a new mario game where I could start with freaky new powerups, a wall jumping mechanic that was honestly lackluster (that is, if it worked). But it was new, that was the point. New. But what I found afterwards was something special. You mentioned super mario war. That is how I started. Super mario war 1.6. The announcer was a part of the game as intended. But so many things were missing. A lot of powerups, no level editor (yet), no worlds no tourneys, just smw.
So I started digging my claws into it and looked a little closer. I found the official release. 1.7. That's where I had most of my fun. It had a level editor that I made several levels on (including one with a name I'd rather not repeat, we'll get to that one). Not only did I find 1.7, I found the forum. Sprites that could be added, new secrets (which was then part of the 1.7 afe (april fools edition) of the game) and a shit ton of discussions. And then on youtube I found a video of another version of the game. The title of the video, trigger warning for those who are abused, was "Stomp mode rape". The name aside the level was pretty cool. With a lower, middle and upper section divided by color switch blocks. Every enemy in stomp mode collected in the small upper left corner of the map that could be released by pressing the button. Doing so would unleash hell. It was honestly, my favorite map. The version of smw it was played on wasn't even smw, it was ghw, ghost house war. A halloween version of the game.With all halloween mario themed sprites. Basically half the game, but the music, it just hit different now hearing it back. I have made so many memories with this game. All because some kid thought he would show his gratitude to a franchise I had long since fallen in love with.
Now all that's left is bits and pieces from an honestly (I'll stop saying honestly I swear) truly great period in my life. I was immature then, but I can still appreciate my youth as I was still only a kid. So my message to you florian, you can rest easy knowing you've made my childhood an epic story of wonder and adventure small as it may have been. I wouldn't have had it any other way. Thanks for gifting the world such an amazing game. Rest in piece, you deserve more. Thanks for reading if you did. I do appreciate you taking time out of your day for what is basically a love letter to the dearly departed. Enjoy the rest of your day ^^
God I missed out on so many cool communities and games throughout the early 2000's
I was playing Toon Town..
Holy shit I had no idea this was an actual thing! I had the old ass version way back in the day on a modded Xbox and haven’t thought about it in years, such good times. Time to check out the latest version!
Here's your algorithm incentivized flame war:
Your clothes are unfashionable.
Playing this master piece since 2010
It was honestly too late before I found out it was fan-made 😂
Man, I wish I knew about this when it was popular. I’m sure I would’ve loved this back then when fan made Mario Flash games were all over Newgrounds and stuff and when it seemed like Nintendo didn’t give any less of a shit about fan made games (At least, as far as I know of). This would’ve seemed like a gold mine for little 7 or 8yo me.
And damn, it sucks to hear that Hufsky took his life thus ending any further development. The potential for this game is just phenomenal! However, history is history and all I can say about that is may he rest in peace. 😔
I hope this game gets more recognition and more traffic sometime later in the future.
Thanks, Jonii for not only being one of TWO people where I saw this game being mentioned from (the other being TweeterMan287 mentioning it briefly in a review of the GP Wiz one time), but also showing me even more about what this interesting little labor of love is all about.
I may have sounded a little soft, but I sincerely wish the community for this game has more life into it. This game seems too good to be left as a small footnote lost to the tides of time. I even tried to see if there was even a Discord server dedicated to it, but I haven’t seen anything of the sort yet and I don’t think there is sadly.
Either way, this seems interesting enough that I tracked down a download link on the Internet Archive. I have yet to play it right now (as of the time I posted this), but I would want to see what I missed out on all these years.
Played this a lot with my brother back in the day
I play this game everyday and I just wanted to know if someone made an video about it and I'm happy i searched it. also I was playing on version 1.7 and I realised it wasn't the latest version.
thank you jonii for making this video.
So, I stumbled upon this video while browsing RUclips, and wow, I did not expect to actually be mentioned anywhere on RUclips, but there it was. Stomp Arena goes back to my college days. I spent many an hour in my dorm room working on it. You mention netplay being in a primitive state - that was one of the areas that I worked on. At the time, I only knew the basics of network programming, so it wasn't robust at all. It was based on UDP, so just one dropped packet could mean some serous desync in the gameplay, and I never figured out how to cleanly re-sync things. I learned a lot about programming while working on that project. Eventually, though, I just burned out on it. I'd be willing to answer any questions about the project if people want to. Also, I know I just created this channel today, so I might not seem legit, but if you'd like proof of who I am, I can try my best to prove it. I don't have access to my original e-mail, though, and I can't remember my exact password on the old forum, but I still have the old project around (although it has moved computers since it was created).
Do you really have stomp arena saved after all these years? I was trying to make an archive with all the smw files I could find and there was nothing related to stomp arena that didnt have dead links (as usual nowadays).
Also just thank you for being a legend on the forums. Im way too young to be there at the time it was still alive, but looking at it now its obvious you were pretty great.
Im gonna try asking again if you have stomp arena, since i still dont have it in the archive.
How long until New Super Mario War?
Wow. This seems like a really cool game! (and a really cool video)
Man, what a blast this game was when I was a teen, and I always feel a bit bad whenever I end up forgetting about it, even if the memories usually do end up coming back relatively easily since, of all things, listening to music from DDR: Mario Mix tends to make me remember about it, since the trailer for v1.8 used music from it
One thing that kinda hit me hard was hearing about Florian's death
I mean, I'd known for a long time that the dude was Gone, I just never knew it was by his own hand
At the very least, I hope his soul has been, and continues to be, in a good place, and I'll always be thankful to him and the rest of the team for putting together a game that made my high school years that little bit less awful
I don't think I ever heard of this game until I saw the switch port.