I bought what you're calling a Mk 2 in 1980/81, with (as you say, bizarrely) rod brakes. I was told at the time, that the reintroduction of rod brakes was because of the factory closing down in Worksop and not wanting to take old stock with them, which does make more sense than manufacturing them all over again just to produce a nostalgia bike. - It was one of two in the showroom the other one being a ladies frame.
I have a Superbe which was manufactured in May 1985, It has Weinman cable side pull brakes and the chaincase is held on by the hidden bolt . It also has steel cranks and not alloy ones. It has ( had) the same lighting system fitted and came with a Brookes leather saddle. It was also fitted with the same rack as in the video.It also has the stainless steel Dutch rims
I own a 1979 Burgundy red 3 speed . The rear Sturmey archer has march 1979 stamped in it . It has all chroom brake rods and levers , ergo grips on the handlebar. Exactly the same chaincase and steel mudgards as yours . The rims are stainless steel Van Schothorst rims . Still a fantastic bike to ride with - of course - the Brooks sadle . Greetings from the Netherlands !
Thanks for the info. I've just got hold of what seems to be a 1950s superbe deluxe. It's probably been resting for at least 30 yrs either in an overgrown shed or discovered in undergrowth. It's a 4 speed sadly missing the original seat. In need of an overhaul keeping as original as possible. I normally restore mountain bikes so it may be sold for restoration. It even has stainless steel wheels! It was found left on a front garden so I enquired & was told I could take it away.....an amazing bike to find. I am a proud owner of a raliegh nitro 1994 that I've changed a bit from its original state but it's currently in storage as I need to replace the rear axel I have chrome rims & cantilever brakes miss riding it but situation has caused a delay in its repair. It was a great bike in the summertime. One day IL fix it. Love seeing the sun shine of its chrome rims!☀️
I rememberthese types of bikes back in the 1960's with the full chain guard. I was about 7 or 8 years old and a friend down the street, a bit older than me asked if I wanted to go with him to get a bike. He wanted one with the full chain guard. I didnt know at the time, he wanted to steal one, not buy one. He never did see one about.
For transport or for period accessory? Well since you mention a hatch, either it’s the very rare Radford conversion as owned by Alex Moulton, or it’s a BMW, in which case a classic bicycle would not suit it. They are easy to sell via the Raleigh Superbe Owners Club group on Facebook
I also have a passion for collecting vintage British bicycles,,, or sickness with over twenty of them! I have a 1952 Raleigh Sport that has a small light green stripe of paint on the top of the front mudguard, just behind the chrome bullet. What is it for?
Fascinating video. I was hoping to identify mine, but age-wise it falls in between the bikes in this video. I own a second hand NA4xx prefixed 1974 Raleigh roadster which rides very nicely. Colour is green, fork lock, high mounted square headlamp, DBU on seat tube, AG 3-speed hub, no rack, rod brakes, 26" chromed steel rims, peaked mudguards with robust stays, full chaincase. Saddle is a Brooks sprung model, but vinyl not leather. Would I be correct in saying it is a Dawn Tourist or would it be a stand-alone Superbe by 1974?. The only decals are a plain "Raleigh" on the down tube and a yellow hi-tensile steel sticker on the seat tube. The gearing is 46T/19T and I'm wondering if this was factory standard on these bikes?.
my father had a humber cycle it was an eye catcher those days. the superb precision was silent running and literally rust proof body. alasnowadays it is adream cycle.
My 1970 s Raleigh Superbe needs work on the 3 speed . we have tried to adjust it , but still I need to push down and hold it down to keep it in lowest gearing for hills . Can you tell me how to fix this ? and I have a mattress style seat that I would like to replace . How can I get either a replacement or a brooks ?
Currently looking at one of these, the rear light is an oblong unit fitted to the rear mudguard and low down, would that be a 80's model please? and yes a 3 speed in green rod brakes.
Just sent a request to tour group on fb I just got own age of a raleigh superbee 1974 love to come out on rides with it but yea fab video mine looks so like your 2nd one
I have one without a speed shifter and looks a bit like the tourist style, black, but I think someone painted over the hub in the tire or I cannot find a frame number anywhere. A couple of the clamps say made in france. I see a bit of stenciling left but I also think someone painted the black in some spots. It is hard to know what kind it is because of what I just mentioned -
My grandfather had one of these, which was inherited by my dad. It was from the 1950s, with a 4 speed hub. I wish we'd kept it, but I still have the Lucas "King of the Road" bell and the fork lock key!
Great overview , just picked up a 1979 Superbe from the local bicycle recycling center . Will need a fair amount of work but at least complete . I will need some new rims & spokes if anyone has a lead on where to obtain these ? Thanks
It’s just a shame that Raleigh’s quality went down hill. Certainly by the time I was getting into proper bikes in the seventies, the company was viewed poorly by many people. Compared to my Grandfather’s black Roadster, which he owned all his life and my Mother’s drop barred lightweight sports tourer from the early 50’s the later bikes were poor and Raleigh’s reputation never really recovered. It’s nice to see some of the better ones. Thanks for posting.
So far I'm a Raleigh wanna be. Got my 3 speed sears bike from 70s i believe. Rides smooth and brings lots of joy. 3 speed bikes have a classy old fashioned look. In middle of refurbishing and looking to buy brooks saddle. there's no substitute.. Eventually I'll find myself a Raleigh. Beautiful bikes. Thank you for this channel. I enjoy it
Hello Steve, as for your Sears 3speed bike from the 70's ( 40 yrs+ That's Vintage) that Rides Smooth ,🚴 and Brings YOU JOY☺️. I believe you've found your (not someone else's) treasure! What more can you ask for 😊! You've found a trust friend 🚲! Enjoy the ride, Enjoy the journey 😊!!
Hermosas bicicletas!!. Son R28?. Cómo se puede adquirir una bicicleta así como en el video, para compra desde Perú, y si se puede, cuánto me puede costar importarlo a Perú? Gracias
Rarest I ever seen was a 1980s caliper brake superbe, that was black. Only superbe badged bike I ever saw in black in my life, and it had the crimpled seat stays, pump pegs on top tube, a rack as standard with a mudguard mounted light, and even cottered cranks. I have two superbes, a 1974 and 1980. The 1974 has a square headlight but is otherwise as they were in the 60s. The 1980 has basically the same frame but they simplified how the chain case goes together and replaced the crossbar where a caliber attaches to the seatstays with a welded on flat piece of metal instead, probably to accept one of those alloy racks. Dispite having the same geometry and design the 74 is much better made and nicer to ride.
I've just been given a Raleigh sport 1953. 3 speed Stermy archer. Going to be restoring it gradually. Unfortunately the brooks saddle has gone too far to be repaired
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im morer confused than anything now :) lol, i dont know if my 1956, 23" green frame, should be on rods or cables, i know it should be 26" rim. but 3 or 4 speed. im so confused
If it has holes drilled at top and bottom of the down tube, it had rods. Therefore a Superbe Dawn Tourist. If no holes, it had cables and is probably a Superbe Sports Tourist. I need to remake this video as my knowledge has expanded a lot since I made it.
All English bikes are noisy. Ride a Schwinn bike like my 1958 single speed Racer or my 1965 Collegiate 5 speed and it is amazing how solid and quiet the American bikes are. The Schwinn is so stable you can ride the thing no hands without worrying about the wheel turning and crashing the bike. You can't do that on a Raleigh. I own a 49 Rudge w rod brakes, a 53 and 61 Raleigh and love them, but they are noisy machines. Very beautiful with their soldered hand pump attachments and very sturdy rod brakes. The English bikes are very attractive machines at very very reasonable prices for what you get. The Schwinn, for what they go for, though heavy, is one of the most refined, well built bikes ever made. Another under rated bike is the Japanese Skyway bike of the mid 60's from Japan. Amazingly light and well built. They often come under the Royce Union brand also. Grab one if you can find one. A real sleeper very few people know about. An excellent bike, the equal of any tourist bike out there. Kabuki is the maker, if i remember correctly.
I could be wrong, but I work in a bike shop and I’m a 3-speed freak, @22.56 The superbe looks like the cranks are at slightly odd angles, I would hazard a guess that both of the Cotter pins are pointing in the same direction rather than opposite.... by memory I think they are meant to be pedal arm down, nut forward, i’m guessing one of them is in back to front....?!!!
Acquired a late model with 3speed Dyna hub mchanicaly good but absolutely no paint left on it covered in surface rust , previous owner was going to scrap it , nice to ride in a old fashioned rusty way
In mainland europe they had superbes in all kinds of colours, red, blue, mint green whatever you want they'll do you, all with bottle dynamos, probably because the dynohubs weren't powerful enough to meet the regulations. As far as brakes there's a few variations, they did caliper brakes but instead of rod brake models they did drums. The drums I've seen in three types. Rod operated, cable operated, and a very strange hybrid where rod handlebars connect to a sort of adapter which pulls cables! Many of the rod operated drum bikes have a different handlebar design with their fragile bit covered over with a plate that says "Stainless".
@@unbalancedcrank Then I'm looking forward to that if you do a video. I live in Netherlands but don't have the space, and to be honest most of what I find is just the cable braked ones which I don't find so interesting. I always seem to come across the rod-drum ones when I'm not in a position to buy, like on holiday in amsterdam, or out somewhere and there's one parked on the street with the owner nowhere to be found. I brought my own 1980 model with me when I moved from England. Strangely the only time I managed to get hold of another bike was when a mate rang me up said they found one in a second hand shop about three miles from where I live now. Being in NL you'd think it'd be a dutch model but nope, UK model originally sold in York. Apparently someone else had immigrated to the same town and took one with them just like me. That one's in better nick so I have it in storage.
I bought what you're calling a Mk 2 in 1980/81, with (as you say, bizarrely) rod brakes. I was told at the time, that the reintroduction of rod brakes was because of the factory closing down in Worksop and not wanting to take old stock with them, which does make more sense than manufacturing them all over again just to produce a nostalgia bike. - It was one of two in the showroom the other one being a ladies frame.
Peter has a great collection and a superbe shed.
I have a Superbe which was manufactured in May 1985, It has Weinman cable side pull brakes and the chaincase is held on by the hidden bolt . It also has steel cranks and not alloy ones. It has ( had) the same lighting system fitted and came with a Brookes leather saddle. It was also fitted with the same rack as in the video.It also has the stainless steel Dutch rims
I own a 1979 Burgundy red 3 speed .
The rear Sturmey archer has march 1979 stamped in it .
It has all chroom brake rods and levers , ergo grips on the handlebar.
Exactly the same chaincase and steel mudgards as yours .
The rims are stainless steel Van Schothorst rims .
Still a fantastic bike to ride with - of course - the Brooks sadle .
Greetings from the Netherlands !
It sounds like a wonderful machine! I love the maroon ones.
Thanks for the info. I've just got hold of what seems to be a 1950s superbe deluxe. It's probably been resting for at least 30 yrs either in an overgrown shed or discovered in undergrowth. It's a 4 speed sadly missing the original seat. In need of an overhaul keeping as original as possible. I normally restore mountain bikes so it may be sold for restoration. It even has stainless steel wheels! It was found left on a front garden so I enquired & was told I could take it away.....an amazing bike to find. I am a proud owner of a raliegh nitro 1994 that I've changed a bit from its original state but it's currently in storage as I need to replace the rear axel I have chrome rims & cantilever brakes miss riding it but situation has caused a delay in its repair. It was a great bike in the summertime. One day IL fix it. Love seeing the sun shine of its chrome rims!☀️
I always called my Superbe "Super Bee ! " love them so much
I rememberthese types of bikes back in the 1960's with the full chain guard. I was about 7 or 8 years old and a friend down the street, a bit older than me asked if I wanted to go with him to get a bike. He wanted one with the full chain guard. I didnt know at the time, he wanted to steal one, not buy one. He never did see one about.
That was my dad’s bicycle in 1966.
Difficult to find a chain guard for the superbe.
There are aftermarket components available. One just has to dig a little. Bikeforums is a great place for that kind of info.
I have one of those green ones with all original parts as far as i can see. Should i sell it or put it on the hatch rack of my Mini Cooper?
For transport or for period accessory?
Well since you mention a hatch, either it’s the very rare Radford conversion as owned by Alex Moulton, or it’s a BMW, in which case a classic bicycle would not suit it. They are easy to sell via the Raleigh Superbe Owners Club group on Facebook
I also have a passion for collecting vintage British bicycles,,, or sickness with over twenty of them!
I have a 1952 Raleigh Sport that has a small light green stripe of paint on the top of the front mudguard, just behind the chrome bullet.
What is it for?
Fascinating video. I was hoping to identify mine, but age-wise it falls in between the bikes in this video. I own a second hand NA4xx prefixed 1974 Raleigh roadster which rides very nicely. Colour is green, fork lock, high mounted square headlamp, DBU on seat tube, AG 3-speed hub, no rack, rod brakes, 26" chromed steel rims, peaked mudguards with robust stays, full chaincase. Saddle is a Brooks sprung model, but vinyl not leather. Would I be correct in saying it is a Dawn Tourist or would it be a stand-alone Superbe by 1974?. The only decals are a plain "Raleigh" on the down tube and a yellow hi-tensile steel sticker on the seat tube. The gearing is 46T/19T and I'm wondering if this was factory standard on these bikes?.
You might have a police model. I will look up properly later
Trying to find this Tourist year..Is the serial # We need, at the top of the seat tubes backside?
It looks like N 00671-8.
That’s the number yes
@@unbalancedcrank '71 ?
No. I don’t know the date of that number. If you are on Facebook, join the Raleigh Superbe owners club group and they will tell you
Question: Does the frame serial numbers tell anything about a Raleigh's year of manufacture? Mine is--DC21752. It's on the seat tube. 🚲
They came fully equipped back then! Even a pump. I wish someone made fully equipped practical bicycles still today.
Cowtownbaldie Dutch and some German manufacturers still do.
Love your videos
Fabulous !
my father had a humber cycle it was an eye catcher those days. the superb precision was silent running and literally rust proof body. alasnowadays it is adream cycle.
Hi there have got the link to Facebook Raleigh club. Thanks
Imthinking of converting a Raleigh Pioneer to an ebike. Does anyone know the fork dropouts width and wheel spindle diameter? Many thanks!
Well said ..outstanding
My 1970 s Raleigh Superbe needs work on the 3 speed . we have tried to adjust it , but still I need to push down and hold it down to keep it in lowest gearing for hills . Can you tell me how to fix this ? and I have a mattress style seat that I would like to replace . How can I get either a replacement or a brooks ?
I suspect the shifter.
Currently looking at one of these, the rear light is an oblong unit fitted to the rear mudguard and low down, would that be a 80's model please? and yes a 3 speed in green rod brakes.
And the one I am looking at has cottered cranks too on it.
Cotters with mudguard light ( flat top mudguards not ridged) will probably have pump under top tube meaning june 83 onwards until April 84
@@unbalancedcrank I thank you!
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Wow
Do you know what the difference between a Raleigh and a dunelt bycicles
Their name. They merged eventually, but that’s just like comparing Hercules or Rudge-Whitworth to Raleigh, in the 40s/50s they became one in the same.
Nice
I like the rsw.
KERNOW. EXP id have left it in the skip, but each to their own.
Where can I get it? Is it possible?
Again great video - I’ve just bought myself a 1953 model based on that advice.
Just sent a request to tour group on fb I just got own age of a raleigh superbee 1974 love to come out on rides with it but yea fab video mine looks so like your 2nd one
I have one without a speed shifter and looks a bit like the tourist style, black, but I think someone painted over the hub in the tire or I cannot find a frame number anywhere. A couple of the clamps say made in france. I see a bit of stenciling left but I also think someone painted the black in some spots. It is hard to know what kind it is because of what I just mentioned -
My grandfather had one of these, which was inherited by my dad. It was from the 1950s, with a 4 speed hub. I wish we'd kept it, but I still have the Lucas "King of the Road" bell and the fork lock key!
Yes, should have kept it
My grandfather had 2.
So he was great 👍
He could ride it and operate his mobile phone at the same time.
Keep coming back to this video it’s addictive.
Great overview , just picked up a 1979 Superbe from the local bicycle recycling center . Will need a fair amount of work but at least complete . I will need some new rims & spokes if anyone has a lead on where to obtain these ? Thanks
It’s just a shame that Raleigh’s quality went down hill. Certainly by the time I was getting into proper bikes in the seventies, the company was viewed poorly by many people.
Compared to my Grandfather’s black Roadster, which he owned all his life and my Mother’s drop barred lightweight sports tourer from the early 50’s the later bikes were poor and Raleigh’s reputation never really recovered. It’s nice to see some of the better ones.
Thanks for posting.
Wrong.
Manufacturers have different perspectives to the general public.
So far I'm a Raleigh wanna be. Got my 3 speed sears bike from 70s i believe. Rides smooth and brings lots of joy. 3 speed bikes have a classy old fashioned look. In middle of refurbishing and looking to buy brooks saddle. there's no substitute.. Eventually I'll find myself a Raleigh. Beautiful bikes. Thank you for this channel. I enjoy it
I have the Raleigh Jupiter quakeland.
Mine's in the purple colour changer sparkling colour.
I ordered it with double 3 speed gearing.
@@Gma7788what's double 3 speed...?
Hello Steve, as for your Sears 3speed bike from the 70's ( 40 yrs+ That's Vintage) that Rides Smooth ,🚴 and Brings YOU JOY☺️. I believe you've found your (not someone else's) treasure! What more can you ask for 😊!
You've found a trust friend 🚲! Enjoy the ride, Enjoy the journey 😊!!
Muito linda parabens .
A mais linda das inglesas.
Hermosas bicicletas!!. Son R28?. Cómo se puede adquirir una bicicleta así como en el video, para compra desde Perú, y si se puede, cuánto me puede costar importarlo a Perú? Gracias
Rarest I ever seen was a 1980s caliper brake superbe, that was black. Only superbe badged bike I ever saw in black in my life, and it had the crimpled seat stays, pump pegs on top tube, a rack as standard with a mudguard mounted light, and even cottered cranks.
I have two superbes, a 1974 and 1980. The 1974 has a square headlight but is otherwise as they were in the 60s. The 1980 has basically the same frame but they simplified how the chain case goes together and replaced the crossbar where a caliber attaches to the seatstays with a welded on flat piece of metal instead, probably to accept one of those alloy racks. Dispite having the same geometry and design the 74 is much better made and nicer to ride.
I've just been given a Raleigh sport 1953. 3 speed Stermy archer. Going to be restoring it gradually. Unfortunately the brooks saddle has gone too far to be repaired
Aqui no brasil tem poucas raleigh nos ano 60,70 e 80 o mercado foi dominado pela monark e caloi.
I've just aquired a 1963 4 speed with rod brakes. I'm picking it up this weekend. Your videos are such a big help. Thankyou!
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I want to buy it
I bought one at a boot sale ,it is a beauty.
I want to buy a Raleigh Sports bicycle,how can I get it from India?
remember the steering lock on these, cylinder key, union ngn series. ngn1 to 50. some used to stamp the key number on the front of keyway.
im morer confused than anything now :) lol, i dont know if my 1956, 23" green frame, should be on rods or cables, i know it should be 26" rim. but 3 or 4 speed. im so confused
If it has holes drilled at top and bottom of the down tube, it had rods. Therefore a Superbe Dawn Tourist. If no holes, it had cables and is probably a Superbe Sports Tourist.
I need to remake this video as my knowledge has expanded a lot since I made it.
a friends dad has a roadster 1 speed rod brakes I think they are better than cable brakes just persnickity to change out a tire
Not sure after64years but I think bike had a hub dynamo
Hi there. Does the Pioneer have a 21" frame? How do you find it, too small? Thinking of getting one! Thank you.
They are good machines. They are comfy to ride, and will do anything you would reasonably expect a of a bike.
The bike in the video is not mine
The link to the Raleigh Facebook
I had a 1959 model with 4 speed anddrum brakes and lockable front forks
Sounds like an All Weather or Road Safety model. I have learned much more since I made this old video. I need to make an updated version
All English bikes are noisy. Ride a Schwinn bike like my 1958 single speed Racer or my 1965 Collegiate 5 speed and it is amazing how solid and quiet the American bikes are. The Schwinn is so stable you can ride the thing no hands without worrying about the wheel turning and crashing the bike. You can't do that on a Raleigh. I own a 49 Rudge w rod brakes, a 53 and 61 Raleigh and love them, but they are noisy machines. Very beautiful with their soldered hand pump attachments and very sturdy rod brakes. The English bikes are very attractive machines at very very reasonable prices for what you get. The Schwinn, for what they go for, though heavy, is one of the most refined, well built bikes ever made. Another under rated bike is the Japanese Skyway bike of the mid 60's from Japan. Amazingly light and well built. They often come under the Royce Union brand also. Grab one if you can find one. A real sleeper very few people know about. An excellent bike, the equal of any tourist bike out there. Kabuki is the maker, if i remember correctly.
I could be wrong, but I work in a bike shop and I’m a 3-speed freak, @22.56 The superbe looks like the cranks are at slightly odd angles, I would hazard a guess that both of the Cotter pins are pointing in the same direction rather than opposite.... by memory I think they are meant to be pedal arm down, nut forward, i’m guessing one of them is in back to front....?!!!
Beautiful cycles How I wish i could purchase even a vintage modelHas off Nottingham/Raleigh cycle industry,finallay UK made, madce for ever****
Love!!!
Rudge made a maroon whitworth that was identical to my Raleigh
Yes there is a maroon Rudge and a blue Humber
Acquired a late model with 3speed Dyna hub mchanicaly good but absolutely no paint left on it covered in surface rust , previous owner was going to scrap it , nice to ride in a old fashioned rusty way
Linseed oil!
How to buy ?
Raleigh is story bicycle whith Zimmerman and sturmey archer 2 hub...age 1898...legend!!!very beautiful
In mainland europe they had superbes in all kinds of colours, red, blue, mint green whatever you want they'll do you, all with bottle dynamos, probably because the dynohubs weren't powerful enough to meet the regulations. As far as brakes there's a few variations, they did caliper brakes but instead of rod brake models they did drums. The drums I've seen in three types. Rod operated, cable operated, and a very strange hybrid where rod handlebars connect to a sort of adapter which pulls cables! Many of the rod operated drum bikes have a different handlebar design with their fragile bit covered over with a plate that says "Stainless".
Yes, and a model called the Routier, which is a Superbe in bronze or Carmine Red. Im going to NL soon, to collect a vanload of them.
@@unbalancedcrank Then I'm looking forward to that if you do a video. I live in Netherlands but don't have the space, and to be honest most of what I find is just the cable braked ones which I don't find so interesting. I always seem to come across the rod-drum ones when I'm not in a position to buy, like on holiday in amsterdam, or out somewhere and there's one parked on the street with the owner nowhere to be found.
I brought my own 1980 model with me when I moved from England. Strangely the only time I managed to get hold of another bike was when a mate rang me up said they found one in a second hand shop about three miles from where I live now. Being in NL you'd think it'd be a dutch model but nope, UK model originally sold in York. Apparently someone else had immigrated to the same town and took one with them just like me. That one's in better nick so I have it in storage.
Can you still get the fork keys for the superbe
Join the owners club on Facebook
Well done. A most professional and knowledgeable appraisal. The video production is excellent too.