Her mom, by the looks of it, seems like a normal straight woman while her daughter's a lesbian and from her POV, her mom, a female, rating a man higher than a woman pisses her off
God forbid Caelus has 10 seconds of screentime (that doesn't even show his face) after a whole year of trailers with only Stelle representing the Trailblazer 😭💀
@@RexZShadowCmiiw, but from my observation and recent videos that Hoyoverse released in their official social media accounts, they mostly use Caelus when the content is about Firefly or when Firefly is in it. But for other videos that's not about Firefly or has no Firefly in it, they're using Stelle. It's kinda bugging me. While yes, they're using Caelus for White Night MV. But other than that?
@@RexZShadow true, but Stelle did get like 3 trailers in a row by the time ff's came out, and iirc mina even freaked out over BS trailer with stelle, which we all know never would've happened if it was caelus.
Oh on the point of Acheron, I think what she meant by "Firefly is extremely brave" is that they were in similar situations where they were considered weapons, but while Acheron fully embraced/gave in being almost nothing BUT a weapon, Firefly is trying to be more than that. And from her perspective, Acheron thinks she is braver than her for that.
yup, firefly is really strong for going through what she went through and still managing to find beauty in life and reasons to look for her own happiness afterwards acheron is right too, it's something that people with much less burdens than her struggle a lot with
@@zhoxnq6776 One of the best examples of this is her entire existence in Penacony. Because she can't dream, she needs to go through special machines and procedures just to go through the dreamscape. She can feel all the memoria crushing her when she goes through, but she doesn't care. Not just because it's her mission. When she arrives after all that pain, she starts crying. Was she relieved? Is she suffering or in pain? No. She's crying because for the first time in her entire life, she's dreaming.
I’ll never understand why straight ships are like illegal to the yuri side of the hoyoverse community Yes specifically the yuri side. It’s always been them from I’ve seen Look I support LGBT, I really do. But the yuri shippers in the hoyoverse community are just very annoying, like it’s so hard for them to just be respectful with people’s headcanon Like many others, I agree if it was Stelle… She would’ve been ALL over it No offense but people like her and yuri shippers who can’t be respectful don’t deserve firefly
I don't think it's a problem just for the Hoyoverse community, it's more like a problem for all Gacha game community. Well, actually, those lgbt problems affect more to our real world. When people get a microphone and have some power they are going to ask for more. They are the minority but when social media gathers them together they get an illusion that they have a chance to shape this world and make their value into the majority. It is human nature.
It's certainly more than just the Hoyoverse community. I've seen idol fandoms and other fandoms that are predominately female that definitely have an issue with anyone's headcanon that portrays the girls as other than yuri. Hell, in those ones, the very existence of males or at the very least friendly male acquaintances is seen as an abomination.
They have built this narative since hi3 (since that game is 99% yuri) and it bleeds into HSR, they fully believe that every Honkai tittle/sequel must make every character into yuri.
pretty easy to understand why people did not like her post. it's not about her opinion on Firefly as a character, but the fact that she is using said take to cover her real opinion. like just be honest !! say "i don't like straight ships" or "i hate men" or "i would rather i was Stelle in this scene" and pretty much no one would care because we been seeing those words and takes for ages now on twitter. you can't make your entire content about shipping and reducing female characters to just ship yuri slop but suddenly care about character writing now for some reason lmao.
So true lol. Its weird how she talks about Robin and Firefly kissing when they barely even know eachother, acting like they are play dolls, but when its a straight ship she goes crazy, hypocrisy to another level. And whats even worse is that she deleted a lot of hate comments on her vid, just making the situation worse 💀
@@Random_BS2889 apparently Numi hates Caelus but was open to hating him because she likes Stelle better and she had 0 hate from that. See where being honest could take you? In the end she revealed herself as a two-faced person.
@@redcoldedlava9937 ok maybe "hate" comments was an understatement, since some people where just caaling her a hypocrite and she didnt even respond, she straight up wanted to cover everything up
@@Random_BS2889 rarepairs exist (if you dont know, rarepairs are basically shipping 2 characters who havent interacted yet or dont know each other, but you think they would be really cute together if they met)
Mina isn’t a terrible person. Her *lowkey* heterophobia is noticeable imo. Let my boy Caelus get some spotlight, Stelle got way more attention from the community before Hoyo stepped in (version 2.0) Edit: Okay I do remember when Mina liked March 7th and Dan Heng ship in DHIL’s cinematic reaction video. Although it still doesn’t help her case with her Stelle x FF clip and Firefly x Robin tweet that’s been dropping around her replies lol
Idk man I’ve been thinking about it for a while and she might have a bit of Heterophobia mixed in there. Not liking straight ships for seemingly no reason isn’t a good look. A few days ago she was also tweeting about what she referred to as “Male Caelus mains” saying how the FF mains are getting to be “To much like them.” I don’t know her personally so as far as I’m away she’s not. Still it is a bit Sus that the ONE Semi straight ship in the game was enough to set her off.
@@changlislover heterophobia is very self explanatory, semi-straight as in this is literally just mc x firefly so its not even completely straight you can just insert your own mc into it if you like imagining pixels kissing so much like it's technically both because there's no canon mc hoyoverse just happened to put Caelus in there this time around which I guess is the cardinal sin that set her off like a bomb. God forbid someone tells her welt has a wife or something, she is going to go nuclear over Tesla x Einstein not being the absolute
I completely agree. I remember when the game first came out she said that choosing Caelus as your mc was a bad choice. I was a little disappointed she would do this, but I thought it was just her being biased towards the character she chose and subsequently told myself to suck it up. Well, I guess it wasn’t. Seeing her angry over them being straight reminds me of when I wouldn’t be allowed to watch something simply because it was gay. It makes me feel like that since she’s such a big voice in the community, we’ll get less of Caelus. I’m not shaking in my boots because of this, I just think it’d really suck to not see a character I see all the time barely ever. I feel like she doesn’t realize that not everyone chose Stelle. If all we saw in the trailers was Stelle, as a Caelus main, I would be so disappointed. It would make me upset that I chose the unpopular character again(I played Lumine in Genshin Impact). And it completely defeats the whole narrative. Stelle and Caelus are the exact, same, person. They do the exact same things, have the exact same dialogue, and go on the exact same paths. It’s not Genshin. They’re the same person, and it’s not just her who has a problem with this. I’ve seen it so much. And the fact she would use the term ‘waifu’ is just…so, so disappointing. Like, wow, are you scared of her being bisexual? Really? How- how bizarre! It’s almost as if they’re trying to say she would love the mc either way! Wow! How crazy! How unheard of! Absolutely nuts. And loving the mc is an important part of her character. As you said, IT’S LITERALLY HER BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP FOR ONCE IN HER LIFE AND NOT BE SAM- NOT BE THE INDESTRUCTIBLE WEAPON AND HEARTLESS MURDERER EVERYONE SEES HER AS. She’s a complex and amazing character, and seeing someone get so pissy over the fact she’s not with the character they see as a self insert(because I don’t think barely anybody pays attention to what the mc thinks. Or how they feel about the entire loss of memory thing, and how the mc is ALSO a complex character, but, whatever) makes me so annoyed. Like, wah wah wah!-Things didn’t go your way? Boohoo. Get over it. I’m so sick of this waifu mentality. Someone gets upset at the idea of sharing their ‘perfect girl’ and talks about it on the internet. I saw it in hi3, I saw it in gi, and now I’m seeing it in hsr. So, whatever. All I’ll think of when I see her videos from now on, is how she could potentially stop us from getting a fuckton of characters(I’m looking at the entire Chinese hi3 community on this dig). Also, I also like Firefly, in fact, she’s my favorite character. I’ve even jokingly(it’s not always a joke-I think she’s pretty too) called her wife. I like her as SAM, the indestructible weapon and murderer; but, I also like her as Firefly, the girl who lost everything and everyone and is trying to make up for it through the Trailblazer. The Trailblazer is new to this world, doesn’t have a lot of opinions, is naive to people’s real intentions, and is mostly immature. They dig through trashcans and have literally poisoned themself trying to make a drink. But one of thing about them is that they like Firefly, and it’s a first for them. For BOTH of Firefly and the Trailblazer. They’re both awkward, in different ways albeit, because they’ve never felt like this before. But they’re in love, and they’re trying to do everything they can to show it to each other. It’s like a schoolyard couple, of course, but it’s cute. And they both needed that stability during the quest. Looking back on this, I can’t help but think to myself how itchy I must sound about the whole Mina Aoyama thing.😭😭 I’m not, I swear. I just feel very strongly about them as separate characters, and as a slash relationship. I’m aro(somewhere on there)ace and they’re my comfort couple. I feel nice thinking about them being sweet and happy with each other. Getting excited and giddy at the first time they hold hands or something. The Trailblazer teaching Firefly how to play games and letting her win to see her get all excited. It’s cute to me. Rant over. I never want to yap that much again. 💀💀It’s 4:04 am and I have a headache because of my stupid little yapothon. Looks like I had a Yappuccino.
Wait. The Trailblazer and Firefly is in love? Did I miss any in-game information that directly say they're in love? Or did Hoyoverse give an official confirmation that they're in love and I just missed it somehow?
@@chaluveris it not normal relationship where both parties are not the same or the opposite genders? What? Is "normal" standard these days are something else?
Eh, it impacted my opinion of her. This situation proves that shes the typical yuri obsessed straight ship/man hater that has been poisoning the hoyo games community since before genshin was even a thing. If we had a take like this about Topaz + Jade or Acheron + Black Swan we'd be called "lesbianphobic/homophobic" and i'm personally tired of the hypocrisy/double standards because these same people would say that there are no straight ships allowed in hoyoverse games or that only one is allowed. Its obnoxious.
I’m gay myself, but it’s like who cares. I think Firefly and Caelus are cute as fuck together. Oh no it’s not a girl it’s not ruining Firefly’s character -_- what in Odins beard -_-
She also deletes every negative comment about her on her RUclips. Typical narcissist behavior-acting as if she can do no wrong. People have every right to dislike fake people like her. I already disliked her when she unfollowed Tectone and pandered to the outrage over the "Robin drama". Karma is just catching up with her. "Positive" CCs and self-exposing themself, there is no better duo than that.
To be fair, I also delete a few overly negative comments, especially on meta videos. Usually I reply first to give my perspective but that generally doesn’t go well. So if negotiations fail I just mute them.
How is deleting negative comments a sign of narcissism or being a fake person? Every person has the right to control what kind of things are said on THEIR accounts/channels. It’s their space and community, and she doesn’t want a dumb twitter drama to spoil the mood of her channel and content. It’s a perfectly normal and alright decision, no one has to put up with people talking shit about them in their own space, Mina doesn’t have to deal with it in hers either. People could say whatever they want on other platforms, but her channel is still her channel People like you love throwing terms such as “narcissism” at anyone who is mildly unlikable in your point of view, completely ignoring what narcissism truly means to validate your dislike of someone. This isn’t about about being fake, it’s just self preservation. People really be looking for any crumb of ammunition to use against a person’s image these days. Besides, what she said was dumb, but not nearly as ill intentioned or horrible as people are stating, she got enough backlash to learn from it and move on already.
@@sushishishu It's narcissistic because she takes no accountability for her actions and sweeps it under the rug as if nothing happened, even when she is clearly in the wrong. As I said, she acts as if she can do no wrong, silences people who criticize her, and retreats into her own bubble where nobody can say nothing against her. She also lied after being called out, claiming that she would have reacted the same way if Stelle had shown up at the end of the trailer, just to save face. "she got enough backlash to learn from it and move on already" She didn't learn anything. She just pretends as if nothing happened and deletes negative comments that call her out. If she knew she was in the wrong and had "learned from it"' she would take accountability, but she doesn't. Those are the qualities of a narcissist who can do no wrong. "This isn’t about about being fake, it’s just self preservation." She self-preserves by being a fake person. How is putting up a fake persona of positivity like nothing happened and deleting comments not fake? Why didn't she say in her original RUclips reaction that Caelus bothered her and instead went to her alt account on Twitter? Why did she lie when she said that even if it were a female character, it would still bother her? The answer to these questions is "because she's a fake person" and she will say anything for PR. That's also why she used her alt account to express her real opinion and then tried to save face after being called out. She would never post anything controversial on her main account because she needs to uphold her fake persona of positivity. You said that she has a right to delete comments, sure. And people have the right to write them and dislike her for not taking accountability and deleting them. If you are content creator taking criticism is very important.
Nah, it's literally just the loud as F@ck 5% that's THIS out of touch with reality with shipping drama and weirdly afraid of straight ships just existing
Damn it, you're right. Personally, I don’t see anything bad in the last 10 seconds of the trailer, because in my opinion, those same 10 seconds with the firefly showed that she is also a person and can also experience feelings and emotions. Thank you for the video.
I don't understand the strange phobia or feeling of disgust that anime fans have generated towards heterosexuality. When did it become "cool" to make fun of the default sexuality?
It’s a hoyo thing for some reason. Like I understand a lesbian seeing a woman in a video game as lesbian That’s fine, that’s ok, it’s what they think, their headcanon and I respect that. It’s just when they go out and harass people since they think their headcanon is canon is where I draw the line. Instead of just Yknow… Ignoring it
Me, someone who prefers lesbian ships because I'm not interested in fantasising about men: "Hey, it's Caelus. Aw, look at Firefly's smile :D" Mina, apparently: "How _dare_ Firefly smile at a man. The mere _existence_ of men in Firefly's life _ruins_ her strength as character and a woman >:("
i'm a lesbian myself and while i don't mind straight pairings/characters, i'm kind of baffled that nobody considers a bisexuality headcanon (or pan/omni/etc. whatever floats your boat) on both the straight and gay sides. like, it could easily be interpreted that firefly is bisexual and happens to be happy with caelus, and that's more than acceptable (especially since stelle is also the mc) if the problem is them being "straight" (which isn't an actual problem, to be clear), you don't have to interpret it that way? either way, i don't think headcanons should be definite and personally i just use them for fun and comfort (a way of relating to characters or representing myself). it's unfortunate when hypocritical situations like this happen EDIT 1 month later: figured out that i'm bisexual so i guess disregard the first part, lol
1. This game is from China, it means if there are LGBTQ+, it's gonna get a serious problem. 2. There are no ships in gacha games especially hoyoverse games, only the fans who did that. (Including straight or Yuri) 3. All of the kind like Yuri things it's just a Yuri bait it is the same with straight, all of it just bait for the audience.
So it not hypocritical at all when there aren't ship at all, even though the trailblazer fit with firefly still there are no romantic dialogue, it's literally just fans that connect them with fanart
@@andikaprayogi6541 i think you misunderstood my point. i was talking about headcanons and how the fandom interacts with them, not anything to do with canon specifically
@@sharkilly The thing is, most yuri shippers hate the idea of women being bisexual unless it's somehow convenient for them. Like with Himeko, Einstein, and Tesla. All girls who have only shown interest towards men. And what do yuri shippers do? Declare them bisexual for no apparent reason, but the other girls cannot be bisexual, no they HAVE to be lesbian or you are a bigot for thinking they are bi.
@@sandersGGIt is when the only thing you ship is homo and purposely disguise your opinions to throw shade on hetero ships. Never seen drama about lesbian ships, only that the same people get mad when you try to make a straight one.
@@lol-ot7ng don’t downplay it. The majority of people just ignore the gay or lesbian ships, but it’s always that group that has a problem with the straight ones.
1:20 for one they already did that in game before this trailer was even out and two caelus and firefly’s relationship is important and even as a non caefly shipper I can see this easy
I highly doubt Jade is in love with anyone, she probably only uses her looks for manipulation alone (and also she always struck me as more of a deadbeat mom than a lover for Topaz)
Jade is most likely her mentor, as she implied that Topaz was always dealing with business the same way she does until that whole "Jarilo-VI situation". And Topaz obviously admires her, as if Jade is some kind of hero in her eyes lol
agreed honestly, i love yuri but i dont like the jade x topaz ship, it gives me weird vibes .. maybe because i dont really like jade and because i feel like jade is much older/more mature than topaz idk
Jade calling her "little Yelena" implies that Jade is a lot older than topaz, or that she far outranks her in the IPC, or both. Either way the ship doesn't work, but more so in the former than the latter, and jade being a cold businesswoman doesn't allow for that. (But they're hot so it's inevitable that people will ship them regardless if it makes sense given their character and personality or not)
To play SLIGHT devil's advocate, Stelle is indeed one of Mina's favorite characters in Star Rail, while Mina just straight up hates Caelus. Like literally, bottom of all HSR for her. As to WHY she hates him, APPARENTLY it's because a lot of commenters kind of bugger her about him that she just doesn't care for him anymore. This was in a stream where she was making a tier list of characters from Star Rail with Acheron and Topaz' VAs Allegra Clark and Sam Slade, later joined by Molly Zhang. Should mention in this very stream that she kind of... does exactly what she said she doesn't like by saying she likes some characters for their pairing (IE Topaz and Jade). So she might still be a hypocrite. Just not... Heterophobic. Or misandrist. Yay?
Firefly's life has been through hell and now has a freind in the Trailblazer who views her as more than a weapon and Firefly is brave because she was born to be a weapon and is trying to live as a human
then its not a lesbian nor a straight ship no matter which mc u pick if there's no real canon gender. why do these people who spend their day arguing about this not get it
I'm glad for your specification that it isn't really drama. people are taking this WAY over proportion's and taking it to personally to assume she hates all men and stuff imo. but at the end of the day its a honkai star rail ship. she's wrong and the take is trash yea but she's wrong about something as small as a ship. I get why people get heated over it tho. its understandable to a degree
The hoyoverse community gets into a new pissing contest every other week. This is just another nothing situation to add to the pile I’m of the firm believe that It’s usually never all that deep. However, peaking into insanity is quite entertaining!
Yeah, but if she herself said she wouldn't e6 a man (boothill) along with the rants and tangents on only yuri relationships showing favoritism to them exclusively people are bound to get some ideas, so it is out of proportion but I can see why they would think that
Saying that it reduces Firefly's power as a character is just nuh uh. Understanding that she is consciously making the decision and effort to defy her fate against Entropy Loss Syndrome, seeking a cure for it and not afraid of wanting to be together with someone despite her illness shows how powerful and brave she is mentally and at heart. I would even argue that meeting Stelle/Caelus probably made her even stronger as now she has someone she cares for deeply and fuels her desire to live even more than before.
Well not sure if you watched her videos or just the clips that youtubers uploaded to get more views, but her oldest videos also said everyone can ship the characters they want to ships
Personally the problem i had with her posting that was it was plain and simple an opinion and she tried to frame it as criticism if she was just honest like "man i would have liked it to be Stelle instead" then it would have been fine i think.
The odd thing about the first tweet of her is that in game that's exactly what Firefly was, throughout the main story. Aside from SAM's first appearance, her story was either feeding the shipper or entropy lost disease. After the reveal, there's barely a change in the dynamic between her and the Trailblazer.
hey man? are you ok.. ive been going through your recent videos, i cant really say mch at all, i dont know whats happening, but im also going through alot right now and i hope your doing fine my man, im sure whatever your going through is alot but im also positive theres people who care for you, im hoping everything turns out fine for you my guy theres people who love ya out there stay safe and take care
Months late to the party but youtube just recommended this video today and made me have some flashbacks to when this happened. This was a good summary as to why I unsubbed to Mina's channel and tend to avoid her content. Her rabid himejoshi gimmick gets stale really quick for me. I don't know shit about her personal life so I won't say she's a bad person or anything like that but she's the textbook example of the type of people I avoid like the plague in every fandom I've been a part of.
Her statement is true tho. Firefly could've been a solely and independent good character. But due to that last 10 seconds of the trailer and how she's portrayed in the story, Firefly is basically commonly known as "Caelus' Girlfriend" instead of "badass Stellaron Mecha"
@@esmondgoh3112 Thank you for saying this🙏🏼 truly the only criticism that she should be getting is that she could've(and should've) worded it better. Her opinion itself is absolutely logical because having this wifey version of Firefly was only to ensure all the fans that can't handle independent women don't start crying... hyv should've instead just shown Firefly the way they did in the quest before: sweet(ofc) but not just wifey(we were way past that version at that point of the story)
Just wanna be a bit fair, not saying she didnt say something hypocritical, but about that clip, if you didn't know that was before Firefly was confirmed to be Sam. That reveal could've majorly changed her view on the character, and thus the people using it aren't presenting great evidence.
and it did since Mina hate mechas xd thats why she only got e2 firefly with her VA She said that if firefly was the one during the fights she would get more eidolons
fr its not that deep, people just take everything on twitter seriously. people arent perfect and slip ups happen. streaming to hundreds of people, its daunting.
Honestly? The only reason why this nothing-burger of a take got turned into a drama is because how degenerate the hardcore FF fans are. I'm NOT talking about the regular chill ppl who just really like FF, I'm talking about the absolute clowns who went out of their way to "boycott Boothill" (lmao) becase Hoyo had the "audacity" to release his banner before Firefly's.
Is it hipocritical? Yes Is it drama? No. So people shouldnt take it too seriously, she is otherwise a pretty nice person. And i doubt she hates men like some people claim her to be. She likes yuri, its just that on this particular instance, She made a bad take regarding firefly.
Exactly! She made a small mistake. It's not the end of the world. People need to quit attacking her with so many offensive comments over it. They're just proving they are just as bad, hell worse. The whole "hate man" comment is also dumb as hell seeing how one of her favorite characters is Kazuha who is definitely male.
She's mad cause Caelus was the one coming out to see Firefly at the end of the video and not Stelle. She just want it to be a gay thing which is never going to happen with a gender chose MC in a hoyoverse game.
Whenever there is a storyline i dont like or a cupol i dont like i just make up my own headcannon alternate univerce about it and leave it at that. Did it for mass effect. Seriously tho modded ending was fire, i was like yessssssssss this is what i wanted god damm it.
These videos are always good to watch while eating On another note: Yeah, I don't agree with the take and don't think the Twitter post was really necessary, but it isn’t that big of a deal at the end of the day. Nice coverage.
The attacment to twitter will in the end ruin Mina in the long run. Twitter is dumb, because you have to make the tweet in question dumb and provoking in order to get the likes and hopefully make the stuff trending. But twitter will ruin her in the end, especially when she goes down the road she is taking. Extreme mental directions, would lead to even more extreme directions and the moment Mina takes one step back, her entire fanbase she nuture would come back to haunt her. Never use your fetish escapsim as a means to get likes and play the twitter gamd while projecting it on others who want nothing to do with this , trust me, it will backfire on you. Not a question of if but a question of when 😢
So basically, she won't have tweeted that if it was Stelle in the end and not Caelus? Remember, in the previous videos where they show Firefly with the Trailblazer, it was always Caelus, the MALE TRAILBLAZER. Also, strong female characters who are beloved have been the ones who are able to ask for help when the situation calls for it and those who go to their companions when its necessary. This is coming from someone who likes to ship the male characters in Star Rail and yeah I couldn't care less if the characters get with someone else even if its the opposite gender. Shipping is supposed to be fun and they arent real anyways. Ps. I ended up ranbling about why i dont like the Topaz/Jade ship since it has no place here 🫠
4:43 Yeah I don't like Firefly, used to hate her but atp I don't even care to and just feel apathetic, but even I know about Firefly's story because I'm a story enjoyer, like you've gotta be blind to think that
ngl I usually don't agree with making characters more waifu like for their character's seriousness/stoic natures, like raiden ei i think is a good example, but i think the argument you're putting out here especially for firefly is very good since she does want to be more human.
Mina's brainrot for Yuri has been in critical condition and keeps worsening ever since Robin's release LMAO this so entertaining ASF, love how the Drama of HSR is always related to the CCs and the playerbase not the game itself
Heres my take. Just because a female character smiles at a male character doesn't mean she's just a wafiu. Yes, ppl will have war about Firefly x the mc. Firefly is bi, she's the same with both mcs, Did i need to type all this out? Hell, nahh i just had nothing better to do and will mostly forget about this.
not trying too defend anyone. I feel similar feelings when I see the marketing hoyo pushed about firefly to be waifu. it feels like when I really like someone, but then everyone knows about it and they tease then try to push the relationship on me when I just want to take things slow, or enjoy it. I really wish hoyo being a lot lot more subtle about the mc and ff romantic relationship.
The thing is that is literally what her direct reason for disliking the ship is she stated in her FF animation video that she hates the MARKETING that hoyo is doing for the ship. I mean I won't deny she seems to dislike the ship but that's for both gender mcs. The clip people use to call her a hypocrite is from 4 months ago but if we use a clip from literally the same time period she in the white knight trailer says when CAELUS is on screen "Firefly is mc's gf" This is literally just a case of her changing her opinion in 4 months. Nothing hypocritical. The Robin x Firefly thing is just preference and that's it. There's a reason it's shipped. And the whole man hating thing is literally insane when her favorite genshin character is Kazuha she has a cardboard cutout of him. I'm not even a Mina fan perse this is literally from watching 3 videos I got this info. People took an out of context twt and ran with it. This whole situation is stupid
I have the same name as her and am also Japanese (half) but my name is pronounced differently. Anyway I always (most) like your takes and whenever people mention her in the title I always get jump scared 😭 Also did you ever do a video talking about Penacony’s ending? I’m keen to hear what you think
I think she just doesn't like that firefly is associated with being a waifu with a man, causse historically the term "waifu" in terms of straigh relationships is somewhat degrading in a sense the woman becomes like that of an object at the eyes of the man(which ofc isn't as common between women)
@@legacymse7095 no, I mean how there is a different connotation between husbando and waifu. For husbando, you want that husbando to take care of you. While for waifu, you would want that waifu to remain subservient to you by nature of patriarchal ideas that feminist generally don’t like. And
The yuri lunatics in Hoyo games are SO BAD that they made me side with Tectone when he called Robin his girlfriend just to piss them off and twitter was losing their mind. I won't lie, her R34 is pretty much 100% straight
As is Fireflys R34. Only times that there is gay shit in it is when they are coping HARD by giving Stelle a futa cock lmao. They hate us men but want to use our bits for their cringe ships.
I think the biggest thing she didn't like about the video is that it was Caelus, she has repeated that she really dislikes him. And also yeah we all know she would have lived to have seen Stelle in his place
I find this SO FUNNY because that r multiple yuri coded/lesbian characters but she decided to choose like… the canonly bi character who likes both fem and male trailblazer??😭😭😭
Bro I'm willing to get my account banned for saying this but Mina looks at a circle in any color or any proportions and says "I love it!" She can look at a square in the same size color or orientation and be like "THAT'S ENTIRELY WRONG! IT'S STRAIGHT! EW! GET THAT AWAY FROM ME!" which is why she is so seperated from the community and I hope she grows more distant for hating on us "square people" (I use that term)
"And the only reason why stupid people are ever allowed to air their opinions anywhere in general is because smart people came before them and put the technology in their hands" OMG that is a line hahahahahahahaha
I don't know, I used to believe it was because of Caelus until I noticed the clip where she talks about a date with Firefly released before Penacony did. I can easily see her changing the way she sees the character after all of the trailers but still not sure.
There is another clip where she talks about how she wants robin and ff to date (or something like that) this was in the 2.3 livestream reaction which is hilarious
Bro, please don't become another HSR Twitter drama RUclipsr. Your theories are cool and you're entertaining to watch. Just focus on that instead of this.
@yeet7135 click bait title for more views. I don't think this is drama in anyway shape or form, to me it feels more like a "haha, streamer says something dumb" moment
First of all, i love yuri, and normal ships, just dont like yaoi ships but... well at least i respect you idk Mina is too much of a simp, a little too entusiastic simp, trully, shes fun, thats clear. Just dont enter to C AI in my pc, its too much yuri for someone that is mentally sane
HSR fans when they realize every character has a mom and dad (it’s a canon straight ship)
Ironically, except Firefly…
And excepts MC cause they're literally are test-tube babies
@@Macvairass oh, so FF and Caelus are just making up for their lack of straight parents?
Unironically tb and ff are the only exception
@@marthaawah8948 they’re making up for the lack of straight parents by being the only straight characters in the game…
You have to remember that she got mad at her mom for giving Caelus 9 and Stelle 8 in her character review video.
Her mom, by the looks of it, seems like a normal straight woman while her daughter's a lesbian and from her POV, her mom, a female, rating a man higher than a woman pisses her off
@@Phantom-r9q💀
Women......🍵
@@kratusd4352 ?
If I had a penny for every time a Hoyo fan did/said something stupid I'd have enough pulls to garuntee 1 character
I would get E6 with the amount of stupid shit from hoyo content creators
@@nez2mes595 I just said 1 guaranteed as a means of mocking those absurd fucking prices
I would literally be able to e6r5 my Acheron if that was true
@@gl1tchbug Welcome to Gacha, where you need to sell your kidney to just have a 50/50 chance of getting your character
pretty sure you wud have plenty even after getting every e6s5 character till 100.x for you and your 50 other friends in your list
God forbid Caelus has 10 seconds of screentime (that doesn't even show his face) after a whole year of trailers with only Stelle representing the Trailblazer 😭💀
Poor my boy. He deserves more screentime 😭
I mean Caelus was in the white night trailer, I think they done pretty good job mixing use of both in their trailers.
@@RexZShadowCmiiw, but from my observation and recent videos that Hoyoverse released in their official social media accounts, they mostly use Caelus when the content is about Firefly or when Firefly is in it. But for other videos that's not about Firefly or has no Firefly in it, they're using Stelle. It's kinda bugging me.
While yes, they're using Caelus for White Night MV. But other than that?
@@RexZShadow true, but Stelle did get like 3 trailers in a row by the time ff's came out, and iirc mina even freaked out over BS trailer with stelle, which we all know never would've happened if it was caelus.
Yep, Mina “reduces” Firefly to a waifu constantly. She should just admit she wants Firefly to be gay. That’s all it is.
Literally most Firefly fans reduce her to a waifu. This is nothing new.
@@IrrelevantOafshe went to Twitter and complained about it when she has literally been doing that to many other characters
@@IrrelevantOaf And the majority are Yuri lovers, curious, right?
@@twalker5801 I think she reduce every female characters now
@@suzsh7037 nah, i mostly seen the male audience do that
Oh on the point of Acheron, I think what she meant by "Firefly is extremely brave" is that they were in similar situations where they were considered weapons, but while Acheron fully embraced/gave in being almost nothing BUT a weapon, Firefly is trying to be more than that. And from her perspective, Acheron thinks she is braver than her for that.
I honestly like this and it explains why Acheron called her brave in the story.
@@miiko7859they need to try that "sleeping in the grass fields" tactic. It's the meta now. I love using that tactic so much.
Its just unfortunate that her feats in the story were off screen ):
yup, firefly is really strong for going through what she went through and still managing to find beauty in life and reasons to look for her own happiness afterwards
acheron is right too, it's something that people with much less burdens than her struggle a lot with
@@zhoxnq6776
One of the best examples of this is her entire existence in Penacony.
Because she can't dream, she needs to go through special machines and procedures just to go through the dreamscape. She can feel all the memoria crushing her when she goes through, but she doesn't care. Not just because it's her mission.
When she arrives after all that pain, she starts crying. Was she relieved? Is she suffering or in pain?
No. She's crying because for the first time in her entire life, she's dreaming.
Mina when her mom kiss her dad (her mom has turned to a waifubait)
@@omega6826 copied comment
lmao
mina prob most likely doesn't have a father. If she did she wouldn't be acting like this...
@@1Gymfreak1Sad but true. Such is the case with almost any lgbt kids... absence of parents from their lives in some way, shape or form
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 Why generalize a giant group like a weirdo?
I’ll never understand why straight ships are like illegal to the yuri side of the hoyoverse community
Yes specifically the yuri side. It’s always been them from I’ve seen
Look I support LGBT, I really do. But the yuri shippers in the hoyoverse community are just very annoying, like it’s so hard for them to just be respectful with people’s headcanon
Like many others, I agree if it was Stelle… She would’ve been ALL over it
No offense but people like her and yuri shippers who can’t be respectful don’t deserve firefly
I don't think it's a problem just for the Hoyoverse community, it's more like a problem for all Gacha game community. Well, actually, those lgbt problems affect more to our real world. When people get a microphone and have some power they are going to ask for more. They are the minority but when social media gathers them together they get an illusion that they have a chance to shape this world and make their value into the majority. It is human nature.
It's certainly more than just the Hoyoverse community. I've seen idol fandoms and other fandoms that are predominately female that definitely have an issue with anyone's headcanon that portrays the girls as other than yuri. Hell, in those ones, the very existence of males or at the very least friendly male acquaintances is seen as an abomination.
Yeah I agree. I may be reading into it wrong but the way I see it it's becoming less about the actual relationship and more about blatant misandry
They have built this narative since hi3 (since that game is 99% yuri) and it bleeds into HSR, they fully believe that every Honkai tittle/sequel must make every character into yuri.
Because, the yuri brainrot started since ggz lmao
Look, I love Mina, she’s great, but that Tweet was genuinely the dumbest thing you could say as someone who loves talking about waifu’s
pretty easy to understand why people did not like her post. it's not about her opinion on Firefly as a character, but the fact that she is using said take to cover her real opinion. like just be honest !! say "i don't like straight ships" or "i hate men" or "i would rather i was Stelle in this scene" and pretty much no one would care because we been seeing those words and takes for ages now on twitter. you can't make your entire content about shipping and reducing female characters to just ship yuri slop but suddenly care about character writing now for some reason lmao.
So true lol. Its weird how she talks about Robin and Firefly kissing when they barely even know eachother, acting like they are play dolls, but when its a straight ship she goes crazy, hypocrisy to another level. And whats even worse is that she deleted a lot of hate comments on her vid, just making the situation worse 💀
@@Random_BS2889 apparently Numi hates Caelus but was open to hating him because she likes Stelle better and she had 0 hate from that. See where being honest could take you? In the end she revealed herself as a two-faced person.
@@redcoldedlava9937 ok maybe "hate" comments was an understatement, since some people where just caaling her a hypocrite and she didnt even respond, she straight up wanted to cover everything up
@@Random_BS2889 rarepairs exist (if you dont know, rarepairs are basically shipping 2 characters who havent interacted yet or dont know each other, but you think they would be really cute together if they met)
That's pretty much any gacha comunity, they care about writing when is not a ship they like
Mina isn’t a terrible person. Her *lowkey* heterophobia is noticeable imo. Let my boy Caelus get some spotlight, Stelle got way more attention from the community before Hoyo stepped in (version 2.0)
Edit: Okay I do remember when Mina liked March 7th and Dan Heng ship in DHIL’s cinematic reaction video. Although it still doesn’t help her case with her Stelle x FF clip and Firefly x Robin tweet that’s been dropping around her replies lol
i wouldnt call it heterophobia tho.
she may just dont like straight ships in general, but maybe she should express it in different way.
Idk man
I’ve been thinking about it for a while and she might have a bit of Heterophobia mixed in there. Not liking straight ships for seemingly no reason isn’t a good look.
A few days ago she was also tweeting about what she referred to as “Male Caelus mains” saying how the FF mains are getting to be “To much like them.”
I don’t know her personally so as far as I’m away she’s not. Still it is a bit Sus that the ONE Semi straight ship in the game was enough to set her off.
@@XgoSolo "heterophobia?" "semi straight" dude what are these words lmao
@@XgoSolo@fr0ck360 imagine thinking "heterophobia" is an actual issue 😐
@@changlislover heterophobia is very self explanatory, semi-straight as in this is literally just mc x firefly so its not even completely straight you can just insert your own mc into it if you like imagining pixels kissing so much like it's technically both because there's no canon mc hoyoverse just happened to put Caelus in there this time around which I guess is the cardinal sin that set her off like a bomb. God forbid someone tells her welt has a wife or something, she is going to go nuclear over Tesla x Einstein not being the absolute
I completely agree.
I remember when the game first came out she said that choosing Caelus as your mc was a bad choice. I was a little disappointed she would do this, but I thought it was just her being biased towards the character she chose and subsequently told myself to suck it up. Well, I guess it wasn’t.
Seeing her angry over them being straight reminds me of when I wouldn’t be allowed to watch something simply because it was gay. It makes me feel like that since she’s such a big voice in the community, we’ll get less of Caelus. I’m not shaking in my boots because of this, I just think it’d really suck to not see a character I see all the time barely ever. I feel like she doesn’t realize that not everyone chose Stelle. If all we saw in the trailers was Stelle, as a Caelus main, I would be so disappointed. It would make me upset that I chose the unpopular character again(I played Lumine in Genshin Impact).
And it completely defeats the whole narrative. Stelle and Caelus are the exact, same, person. They do the exact same things, have the exact same dialogue, and go on the exact same paths. It’s not Genshin. They’re the same person, and it’s not just her who has a problem with this. I’ve seen it so much.
And the fact she would use the term ‘waifu’ is just…so, so disappointing. Like, wow, are you scared of her being bisexual? Really? How- how bizarre! It’s almost as if they’re trying to say she would love the mc either way! Wow! How crazy! How unheard of! Absolutely nuts. And loving the mc is an important part of her character. As you said, IT’S LITERALLY HER BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP FOR ONCE IN HER LIFE AND NOT BE SAM- NOT BE THE INDESTRUCTIBLE WEAPON AND HEARTLESS MURDERER EVERYONE SEES HER AS.
She’s a complex and amazing character, and seeing someone get so pissy over the fact she’s not with the character they see as a self insert(because I don’t think barely anybody pays attention to what the mc thinks. Or how they feel about the entire loss of memory thing, and how the mc is ALSO a complex character, but, whatever) makes me so annoyed. Like, wah wah wah!-Things didn’t go your way? Boohoo. Get over it.
I’m so sick of this waifu mentality. Someone gets upset at the idea of sharing their ‘perfect girl’ and talks about it on the internet. I saw it in hi3, I saw it in gi, and now I’m seeing it in hsr. So, whatever. All I’ll think of when I see her videos from now on, is how she could potentially stop us from getting a fuckton of characters(I’m looking at the entire Chinese hi3 community on this dig).
Also, I also like Firefly, in fact, she’s my favorite character. I’ve even jokingly(it’s not always a joke-I think she’s pretty too) called her wife.
I like her as SAM, the indestructible weapon and murderer; but, I also like her as Firefly, the girl who lost everything and everyone and is trying to make up for it through the Trailblazer.
The Trailblazer is new to this world, doesn’t have a lot of opinions, is naive to people’s real intentions, and is mostly immature. They dig through trashcans and have literally poisoned themself trying to make a drink.
But one of thing about them is that they like Firefly, and it’s a first for them. For BOTH of Firefly and the Trailblazer. They’re both awkward, in different ways albeit, because they’ve never felt like this before. But they’re in love, and they’re trying to do everything they can to show it to each other. It’s like a schoolyard couple, of course, but it’s cute. And they both needed that stability during the quest.
Looking back on this, I can’t help but think to myself how itchy I must sound about the whole Mina Aoyama thing.😭😭 I’m not, I swear. I just feel very strongly about them as separate characters, and as a slash relationship. I’m aro(somewhere on there)ace and they’re my comfort couple. I feel nice thinking about them being sweet and happy with each other. Getting excited and giddy at the first time they hold hands or something. The Trailblazer teaching Firefly how to play games and letting her win to see her get all excited. It’s cute to me.
Rant over. I never want to yap that much again. 💀💀It’s 4:04 am and I have a headache because of my stupid little yapothon. Looks like I had a Yappuccino.
LOUDER FOR THE PPL IN THE BACKKK🔥🔥🔥❗❗❗
What 4AM without nothing to do does to a mf, but out of the absurdly long comment, most people would agree on your opinion lol
@@Fennonn THANK YOU‼️‼️
@@NattsXD thank you😭😭I am very opinionated about the things I like.
Wait. The Trailblazer and Firefly is in love? Did I miss any in-game information that directly say they're in love? Or did Hoyoverse give an official confirmation that they're in love and I just missed it somehow?
Shes that one person you see on twitter that forces their own canon ship 💀
@akira7380 pretty much .
I hope she never finds out a society needed man + woman to have a proper family .
Otherwise she will loose her mind lol
*Character trying to have normal relationship*
Some idiot that think everything should be yuri and yaoi "you weren't supposed to do that"
So true bro, so true
literally and when you say its not canon you get attacked by like 10 other people even though its not canon and is pure assumption
..... "normal"?
@@chaluveris it not normal relationship where both parties are not the same or the opposite genders? What? Is "normal" standard these days are something else?
@@chaluver or are u just confused between "normal friendship" and "normal relationship"?
Eh, it impacted my opinion of her.
This situation proves that shes the typical yuri obsessed straight ship/man hater that has been poisoning the hoyo games community since before genshin was even a thing.
If we had a take like this about Topaz + Jade or Acheron + Black Swan we'd be called "lesbianphobic/homophobic" and i'm personally tired of the hypocrisy/double standards because these same people would say that there are no straight ships allowed in hoyoverse games or that only one is allowed.
Its obnoxious.
this is why hoyoverse needs to stop with the gay stuff, we dont want these ppl in our community
I’m gay myself, but it’s like who cares. I think Firefly and Caelus are cute as fuck together.
Oh no it’s not a girl it’s not ruining Firefly’s character -_- what in Odins beard -_-
What in the fucking Odins beard.
@@wendydreams1045 lmao 🤣
She also deletes every negative comment about her on her RUclips. Typical narcissist behavior-acting as if she can do no wrong. People have every right to dislike fake people like her. I already disliked her when she unfollowed Tectone and pandered to the outrage over the "Robin drama". Karma is just catching up with her.
"Positive" CCs and self-exposing themself, there is no better duo than that.
To be fair, I also delete a few overly negative comments, especially on meta videos.
Usually I reply first to give my perspective but that generally doesn’t go well. So if negotiations fail I just mute them.
How is deleting negative comments a sign of narcissism or being a fake person? Every person has the right to control what kind of things are said on THEIR accounts/channels. It’s their space and community, and she doesn’t want a dumb twitter drama to spoil the mood of her channel and content. It’s a perfectly normal and alright decision, no one has to put up with people talking shit about them in their own space, Mina doesn’t have to deal with it in hers either. People could say whatever they want on other platforms, but her channel is still her channel
People like you love throwing terms such as “narcissism” at anyone who is mildly unlikable in your point of view, completely ignoring what narcissism truly means to validate your dislike of someone. This isn’t about about being fake, it’s just self preservation. People really be looking for any crumb of ammunition to use against a person’s image these days.
Besides, what she said was dumb, but not nearly as ill intentioned or horrible as people are stating, she got enough backlash to learn from it and move on already.
@@sushishishu It's narcissistic because she takes no accountability for her actions and sweeps it under the rug as if nothing happened, even when she is clearly in the wrong. As I said, she acts as if she can do no wrong, silences people who criticize her, and retreats into her own bubble where nobody can say nothing against her. She also lied after being called out, claiming that she would have reacted the same way if Stelle had shown up at the end of the trailer, just to save face.
"she got enough backlash to learn from it and move on already"
She didn't learn anything. She just pretends as if nothing happened and deletes negative comments that call her out. If she knew she was in the wrong and had "learned from it"' she would take accountability, but she doesn't. Those are the qualities of a narcissist who can do no wrong.
"This isn’t about about being fake, it’s just self preservation."
She self-preserves by being a fake person. How is putting up a fake persona of positivity like nothing happened and deleting comments not fake? Why didn't she say in her original RUclips reaction that Caelus bothered her and instead went to her alt account on Twitter? Why did she lie when she said that even if it were a female character, it would still bother her? The answer to these questions is "because she's a fake person" and she will say anything for PR. That's also why she used her alt account to express her real opinion and then tried to save face after being called out. She would never post anything controversial on her main account because she needs to uphold her fake persona of positivity.
You said that she has a right to delete comments, sure. And people have the right to write them and dislike her for not taking accountability and deleting them. If you are content creator taking criticism is very important.
@@sushishishu Meet Dalas Review :/
"Tectone" yeah he is grifter better unfollow him or just don't even mention him at all
bro 3 characther on a moc is crazy
And I WON!
@@XgoSolo I ALSO WONNN MOC 12 AFTER 69 ATTEMPTS AFTER I GIVE RUAN MEI TO ARGENTI TEAM AND BRONYA TO FIREFLY TEAM AHHH I FINISHED ON LAST CYCLE
@@XgoSolo and that's why after getting Jiaoqiu I NEED them to finally drop some skippable characters so I can get Huohuo xD
This is going to be a hot take: 95% of hoyo fans are like this.
Thats what I always said. But fan of the genshin or honkai always pointed each other even though both of them are the same
Nah, it's literally just the loud as F@ck 5% that's THIS out of touch with reality with shipping drama and weirdly afraid of straight ships just existing
Where is the hot take?
95% of the people on twitter. They people who just Lowkey play the game and enjoy it aren’t like this
It's that one loud minority that make most huge community so hated (swifties, kpop, hoyo, undertale, FNAF, MHA)
Damn it, you're right. Personally, I don’t see anything bad in the last 10 seconds of the trailer, because in my opinion, those same 10 seconds with the firefly showed that she is also a person and can also experience feelings and emotions. Thank you for the video.
I don't understand the strange phobia or feeling of disgust that anime fans have generated towards heterosexuality.
When did it become "cool" to make fun of the default sexuality?
It’s just pathetic people being pathetic, nothing we can do and just laugh at them.
@@nyeffer9414 And then they call you homophobic, its a losing battle 😂
@@Random_BS2889 Truly, better to just not join in to begin with.
It’s a hoyo thing for some reason. Like I understand a lesbian seeing a woman in a video game as lesbian
That’s fine, that’s ok, it’s what they think, their headcanon and I respect that.
It’s just when they go out and harass people since they think their headcanon is canon is where I draw the line. Instead of just Yknow… Ignoring it
Envious and insecure people with inferiority complex.
Finally someone saying the truth.
I do somewhat like Mina but you voiced my exact criticism of her.
Me, someone who prefers lesbian ships because I'm not interested in fantasising about men: "Hey, it's Caelus. Aw, look at Firefly's smile :D"
Mina, apparently: "How _dare_ Firefly smile at a man. The mere _existence_ of men in Firefly's life _ruins_ her strength as character and a woman >:("
:/
This drama confuses me because aren't Caelus and Stelle basically the same person?
She just doesn't like straight relationships
i'm a lesbian myself and while i don't mind straight pairings/characters, i'm kind of baffled that nobody considers a bisexuality headcanon (or pan/omni/etc. whatever floats your boat) on both the straight and gay sides. like, it could easily be interpreted that firefly is bisexual and happens to be happy with caelus, and that's more than acceptable (especially since stelle is also the mc)
if the problem is them being "straight" (which isn't an actual problem, to be clear), you don't have to interpret it that way?
either way, i don't think headcanons should be definite and personally i just use them for fun and comfort (a way of relating to characters or representing myself). it's unfortunate when hypocritical situations like this happen
EDIT 1 month later: figured out that i'm bisexual so i guess disregard the first part, lol
1. This game is from China, it means if there are LGBTQ+, it's gonna get a serious problem.
2. There are no ships in gacha games especially hoyoverse games, only the fans who did that. (Including straight or Yuri)
3. All of the kind like Yuri things it's just a Yuri bait it is the same with straight, all of it just bait for the audience.
So it not hypocritical at all when there aren't ship at all, even though the trailblazer fit with firefly still there are no romantic dialogue, it's literally just fans that connect them with fanart
@@andikaprayogi6541 i think you misunderstood my point. i was talking about headcanons and how the fandom interacts with them, not anything to do with canon specifically
@@sharkilly The thing is, most yuri shippers hate the idea of women being bisexual unless it's somehow convenient for them. Like with Himeko, Einstein, and Tesla. All girls who have only shown interest towards men. And what do yuri shippers do? Declare them bisexual for no apparent reason, but the other girls cannot be bisexual, no they HAVE to be lesbian or you are a bigot for thinking they are bi.
I love how on brand Mina is with her 24/7 yuri frothing, but yes, it's pure hypocrisy when "straight waifu = bad" but "homo waifu = good."
We've gone full cirle now
its Heterophobia time
Ma am that is not heterophobia to biased for certain ships
@@sandersGGIt is when the only thing you ship is homo and purposely disguise your opinions to throw shade on hetero ships.
Never seen drama about lesbian ships, only that the same people get mad when you try to make a straight one.
@@sandersGG Unfortunately those "certain" ships are hetero
imagine thinking heterophobia is a real issue
@@lol-ot7ng don’t downplay it. The majority of people just ignore the gay or lesbian ships, but it’s always that group that has a problem with the straight ones.
Monthly lesbian drama let’s go
More like weekly
more like daily
More like hourly
Ok maybe not that much but you get my point
Because of twitter i hate the word lesbian, thanks twitter
More like minutely
1:44 It’s like I always say, bad opinions exist to make the good opinions that much better
1:20 for one they already did that in game before this trailer was even out and two caelus and firefly’s relationship is important and even as a non caefly shipper I can see this easy
I highly doubt Jade is in love with anyone, she probably only uses her looks for manipulation alone (and also she always struck me as more of a deadbeat mom than a lover for Topaz)
Jade is most likely her mentor, as she implied that Topaz was always dealing with business the same way she does until that whole "Jarilo-VI situation". And Topaz obviously admires her, as if Jade is some kind of hero in her eyes lol
agreed honestly, i love yuri but i dont like the jade x topaz ship, it gives me weird vibes .. maybe because i dont really like jade and because i feel like jade is much older/more mature than topaz idk
Have u seen her LC ,Jade is literally a mother to Topaz .
Tbh this GAE shipping is dumb af everything is GAE lmao
Jade calling her "little Yelena" implies that Jade is a lot older than topaz, or that she far outranks her in the IPC, or both. Either way the ship doesn't work, but more so in the former than the latter, and jade being a cold businesswoman doesn't allow for that. (But they're hot so it's inevitable that people will ship them regardless if it makes sense given their character and personality or not)
6:32 i know this isn't related to the topic the video is talking about but dang do i feel that when a support has a higher attack than the main dps
To play SLIGHT devil's advocate, Stelle is indeed one of Mina's favorite characters in Star Rail, while Mina just straight up hates Caelus. Like literally, bottom of all HSR for her.
As to WHY she hates him, APPARENTLY it's because a lot of commenters kind of bugger her about him that she just doesn't care for him anymore.
This was in a stream where she was making a tier list of characters from Star Rail with Acheron and Topaz' VAs Allegra Clark and Sam Slade, later joined by Molly Zhang. Should mention in this very stream that she kind of... does exactly what she said she doesn't like by saying she likes some characters for their pairing (IE Topaz and Jade).
So she might still be a hypocrite. Just not... Heterophobic. Or misandrist. Yay?
she's a silly billy she can't help it
Like the Friday night Funkin mod!
@@XgoSoloOh my GOD! BEEP BOOP BOP? He said the thing! HE SAID THE THING!
Truly my ex FnF fan 😍
A WHAT?!
I'LL MAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEE YOUUUU SAAAAAAAAYYYY
Firefly's life has been through hell and now has a freind in the Trailblazer who views her as more than a weapon and Firefly is brave because she was born to be a weapon and is trying to live as a human
I dont undertand when people fight over wich Mc, Steele or Caelous ,should be with Firefly, arent they the same person?
They are the same, but sexuality and gender always have to be brought up in cases like this, at least in their eyes
@@jadbayram496if a character dates mc they are not straight gay or lesbian, there’s no canon gender for the mc it’s just trailblazer
then its not a lesbian nor a straight ship no matter which mc u pick if there's no real canon gender. why do these people who spend their day arguing about this not get it
I'm glad for your specification that it isn't really drama. people are taking this WAY over proportion's and taking it to personally to assume she hates all men and stuff imo. but at the end of the day its a honkai star rail ship. she's wrong and the take is trash yea but she's wrong about something as small as a ship. I get why people get heated over it tho. its understandable to a degree
The hoyoverse community gets into a new pissing contest every other week. This is just another nothing situation to add to the pile
I’m of the firm believe that It’s usually never all that deep. However, peaking into insanity is quite entertaining!
Nah Mina and hoyoverse took away straight rights and discriminated against them for having ship baises
Yeah, but if she herself said she wouldn't e6 a man (boothill) along with the rants and tangents on only yuri relationships showing favoritism to them exclusively people are bound to get some ideas, so it is out of proportion but I can see why they would think that
Yeah because it's a lesbian women in question we can't make it to be a drama of course.
@@Phantom-r9q you do realise that Soli is gay, right?
It's why i unsubscribed to her, she was funny for the first few bits, but then, it got stale.
This is truly our yuri drama of all tome
As a Robin Drama Enjoyer, I have to disagree
Saying that it reduces Firefly's power as a character is just nuh uh. Understanding that she is consciously making the decision and effort to defy her fate against Entropy Loss Syndrome, seeking a cure for it and not afraid of wanting to be together with someone despite her illness shows how powerful and brave she is mentally and at heart.
I would even argue that meeting Stelle/Caelus probably made her even stronger as now she has someone she cares for deeply and fuels her desire to live even more than before.
If she just be honest and said she dont like straight ships, she wouldnt be in this mess
What difference does it make anyway, this type of drama isn't enough to take her down
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 take her down? I just see it as twitter Tuesday drama
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 you'll be surprised. just look at what tectone did to astu and envi
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Well not sure if you watched her videos or just the clips that youtubers uploaded to get more views, but her oldest videos also said everyone can ship the characters they want to ships
Personally the problem i had with her posting that was it was plain and simple an opinion and she tried to frame it as criticism if she was just honest like "man i would have liked it to be Stelle instead" then it would have been fine i think.
3:12 God dammit I just realized Firefly is Violet Evergarden fuck
Time for the MMD animators to cook
The irony. The seiyuu for Violet Evergarden is actually the seiyuu for Female MC (and Yangyang in Wuthering Waves and Clorinde in Genshin).
@@araarashinigami damn i got the clarification 😂
Caught in 4k 📸📸📸 5:32
Damn Caught 4K twice 📸📸📸 5:45
The thumbnail lol 😂
If you can't handle the backlash, you're going to be handling this *BLACK FLASH*
The odd thing about the first tweet of her is that in game that's exactly what Firefly was, throughout the main story.
Aside from SAM's first appearance, her story was either feeding the shipper or entropy lost disease.
After the reveal, there's barely a change in the dynamic between her and the Trailblazer.
Solo is one step away from becoming a drama youtuber after the performance of this vid LOL
NOOOO i was invested in that moc gameplay, criminal how you didn't finish it. 😢
It’s for another video lmao
hey man? are you ok.. ive been going through your recent videos, i cant really say mch at all, i dont know whats happening, but im also going through alot right now and i hope your doing fine my man, im sure whatever your going through is alot but im also positive theres people who care for you, im hoping everything turns out fine for you my guy theres people who love ya out there stay safe and take care
Months late to the party but youtube just recommended this video today and made me have some flashbacks to when this happened. This was a good summary as to why I unsubbed to Mina's channel and tend to avoid her content. Her rabid himejoshi gimmick gets stale really quick for me. I don't know shit about her personal life so I won't say she's a bad person or anything like that but she's the textbook example of the type of people I avoid like the plague in every fandom I've been a part of.
Her statement is true tho. Firefly could've been a solely and independent good character.
But due to that last 10 seconds of the trailer and how she's portrayed in the story, Firefly is basically commonly known as "Caelus' Girlfriend" instead of "badass Stellaron Mecha"
@@esmondgoh3112 Thank you for saying this🙏🏼 truly the only criticism that she should be getting is that she could've(and should've) worded it better. Her opinion itself is absolutely logical because having this wifey version of Firefly was only to ensure all the fans that can't handle independent women don't start crying...
hyv should've instead just shown Firefly the way they did in the quest before: sweet(ofc) but not just wifey(we were way past that version at that point of the story)
Even if FF x TB is canon, I don’t really care for it. But it’s true that a lot of male fans dumb her down to waifu.
Just wanna be a bit fair, not saying she didnt say something hypocritical, but about that clip, if you didn't know that was before Firefly was confirmed to be Sam. That reveal could've majorly changed her view on the character, and thus the people using it aren't presenting great evidence.
and it did since Mina hate mechas xd thats why she only got e2 firefly with her VA
She said that if firefly was the one during the fights she would get more eidolons
fr its not that deep, people just take everything on twitter seriously. people arent perfect and slip ups happen. streaming to hundreds of people, its daunting.
I don't even play the game but constantly tweeting and obsessing over non-canon forced lesbian shipping is just crazy.
Honestly? The only reason why this nothing-burger of a take got turned into a drama is because how degenerate the hardcore FF fans are.
I'm NOT talking about the regular chill ppl who just really like FF, I'm talking about the absolute clowns who went out of their way to "boycott Boothill" (lmao) becase Hoyo had the "audacity" to release his banner before Firefly's.
Is it hipocritical? Yes
Is it drama? No.
So people shouldnt take it too seriously, she is otherwise a pretty nice person.
And i doubt she hates men like some people claim her to be. She likes yuri, its just that on this particular instance, She made a bad take regarding firefly.
Exactly! She made a small mistake. It's not the end of the world. People need to quit attacking her with so many offensive comments over it. They're just proving they are just as bad, hell worse.
The whole "hate man" comment is also dumb as hell seeing how one of her favorite characters is Kazuha who is definitely male.
She's mad cause Caelus was the one coming out to see Firefly at the end of the video and not Stelle. She just want it to be a gay thing which is never going to happen with a gender chose MC in a hoyoverse game.
Whenever there is a storyline i dont like or a cupol i dont like i just make up my own headcannon alternate univerce about it and leave it at that. Did it for mass effect. Seriously tho modded ending was fire, i was like yessssssssss this is what i wanted god damm it.
These videos are always good to watch while eating
On another note: Yeah, I don't agree with the take and don't think the Twitter post was really necessary, but it isn’t that big of a deal at the end of the day. Nice coverage.
The attacment to twitter will in the end ruin Mina in the long run.
Twitter is dumb, because you have to make the tweet in question dumb and provoking in order to get the likes and hopefully make the stuff trending.
But twitter will ruin her in the end, especially when she goes down the road she is taking.
Extreme mental directions, would lead to even more extreme directions and the moment Mina takes one step back, her entire fanbase she nuture would come back to haunt her.
Never use your fetish escapsim as a means to get likes and play the twitter gamd while projecting it on others who want nothing to do with this , trust me, it will backfire on you.
Not a question of if but a question of when 😢
So basically, she won't have tweeted that if it was Stelle in the end and not Caelus?
Remember, in the previous videos where they show Firefly with the Trailblazer, it was always Caelus, the MALE TRAILBLAZER.
Also, strong female characters who are beloved have been the ones who are able to ask for help when the situation calls for it and those who go to their companions when its necessary.
This is coming from someone who likes to ship the male characters in Star Rail and yeah I couldn't care less if the characters get with someone else even if its the opposite gender. Shipping is supposed to be fun and they arent real anyways. Ps. I ended up ranbling about why i dont like the Topaz/Jade ship since it has no place here 🫠
4:43 Yeah I don't like Firefly, used to hate her but atp I don't even care to and just feel apathetic, but even I know about Firefly's story because I'm a story enjoyer, like you've gotta be blind to think that
ngl I usually don't agree with making characters more waifu like for their character's seriousness/stoic natures, like raiden ei i think is a good example, but i think the argument you're putting out here especially for firefly is very good since she does want to be more human.
Mina's brainrot for Yuri has been in critical condition and keeps worsening ever since Robin's release LMAO this so entertaining ASF, love how the Drama of HSR is always related to the CCs and the playerbase not the game itself
Lets not forget lately, the EN VAs too.
bro your the goat of all content creators.
and i hope you have a good day.
Heres my take. Just because a female character smiles at a male character doesn't mean she's just a wafiu. Yes, ppl will have war about Firefly x the mc. Firefly is bi, she's the same with both mcs, Did i need to type all this out? Hell, nahh i just had nothing better to do and will mostly forget about this.
Props for keeping this relevant long after its expiration date. Mina being dumb is her most entertaining quality
not trying too defend anyone. I feel similar feelings when I see the marketing hoyo pushed about firefly to be waifu. it feels like when I really like someone, but then everyone knows about it and they tease then try to push the relationship on me when I just want to take things slow, or enjoy it. I really wish hoyo being a lot lot more subtle about the mc and ff romantic relationship.
The thing is that is literally what her direct reason for disliking the ship is she stated in her FF animation video that she hates the MARKETING that hoyo is doing for the ship. I mean I won't deny she seems to dislike the ship but that's for both gender mcs. The clip people use to call her a hypocrite is from 4 months ago but if we use a clip from literally the same time period she in the white knight trailer says when CAELUS is on screen "Firefly is mc's gf" This is literally just a case of her changing her opinion in 4 months. Nothing hypocritical. The Robin x Firefly thing is just preference and that's it. There's a reason it's shipped. And the whole man hating thing is literally insane when her favorite genshin character is Kazuha she has a cardboard cutout of him. I'm not even a Mina fan perse this is literally from watching 3 videos I got this info. People took an out of context twt and ran with it. This whole situation is stupid
i liked this vid actually, pleasantly surprised.
1:33 she aint taking an black flash lil bro 😭
This whole drama is funny bc of how unneccessary it is
I have the same name as her and am also Japanese (half) but my name is pronounced differently. Anyway I always (most) like your takes and whenever people mention her in the title I always get jump scared 😭 Also did you ever do a video talking about Penacony’s ending? I’m keen to hear what you think
Topaz and what. That aside, straight ships are uncommon in all of honkai in itself... mina.. is an example you all shouldnt follow.
I think she just doesn't like that firefly is associated with being a waifu with a man, causse historically the term "waifu" in terms of straigh relationships is somewhat degrading in a sense the woman becomes like that of an object at the eyes of the man(which ofc isn't as common between women)
Well yes, characters in gacha games are object for you to collect. Waifus or husbandos, they are objects for your pleasure.
Any question?
@@legacymse7095 no, I mean how there is a different connotation between husbando and waifu. For husbando, you want that husbando to take care of you. While for waifu, you would want that waifu to remain subservient to you by nature of patriarchal ideas that feminist generally don’t like. And
@@legacymse7095 do you get it?
The yuri lunatics in Hoyo games are SO BAD that they made me side with Tectone when he called Robin his girlfriend just to piss them off and twitter was losing their mind. I won't lie, her R34 is pretty much 100% straight
As is Fireflys R34. Only times that there is gay shit in it is when they are coping HARD by giving Stelle a futa cock lmao. They hate us men but want to use our bits for their cringe ships.
She's just a waifu for a woman if it was stelle, if it was no one she'd still be a waifu bc that's what the fandom makes of her.
WW just can't help ruining every fandom they touch.
7:10 you saying that made me laugh
Don't worry, it will pass like every other drama.
"gay and lesbian ppl when they realize straight ppl is real" aah situation
I think the biggest thing she didn't like about the video is that it was Caelus, she has repeated that she really dislikes him. And also yeah we all know she would have lived to have seen Stelle in his place
Why do these type of things have to matter or become an issue? What is the incessant need nowadays to downplay heterosexual allutions?
I find this SO FUNNY because that r multiple yuri coded/lesbian characters but she decided to choose like… the canonly bi character who likes both fem and male trailblazer??😭😭😭
Bro I'm willing to get my account banned for saying this but
Mina looks at a circle in any color or any proportions and says "I love it!"
She can look at a square in the same size color or orientation and be like
"THAT'S ENTIRELY WRONG! IT'S STRAIGHT! EW! GET THAT AWAY FROM ME!" which is why she is so seperated from the community and I hope she grows more distant for hating on us "square people" (I use that term)
for me just dont post anything on you mind just let it be on you mind
Don't forget she screamed her head off when jade rubbed topaz' face for like 2 seconds in the farewell penacony trailer
One of the recommended videos on this video is Mina doing a fuck, marry, kill for HSR characters...
hsr fans when they are told that two characters arent lesbian they burst out with fury!!!!
When I’m in a bad take competition and my opponent is Mina Aoyama:
This is the same person that claims Acheron and Black Swan are canon couple when they have like zero romantic implications within the story
Mfs be shipping them even tho Acheron traumatized black swan 💀
zero romantic implications yeah sure
@@brownlesbo well depends on how you look at it.If trauma counts as such sure
"And the only reason why stupid people are ever allowed to air their opinions anywhere in general is because smart people came before them and put the technology in their hands"
OMG that is a line hahahahahahahaha
When the drama is finally stupid and not about a 60 page document 🙏
I don't know, I used to believe it was because of Caelus until I noticed the clip where she talks about a date with Firefly released before Penacony did. I can easily see her changing the way she sees the character after all of the trailers but still not sure.
There is another clip where she talks about how she wants robin and ff to date (or something like that) this was in the 2.3 livestream reaction which is hilarious
@@snowyfate Did any of the trailers release before that? I thought it happened way later.
@@sct77 the ff demo in which she commented on is the last trailer before her banner released and 2.3 starts
Bro, please don't become another HSR Twitter drama RUclipsr. Your theories are cool and you're entertaining to watch. Just focus on that instead of this.
shut up snowflake
This isn't drama
@@yibuu2 It is though. Hell, the video title even says so
@yeet7135 click bait title for more views. I don't think this is drama in anyway shape or form, to me it feels more like a "haha, streamer says something dumb" moment
@@yibuu2 What I'm afraid of is xgosolo spamming more vids like this. I'm here for HSR lore, nothing more.
The lesbian's head canon went wrong. 😂
Unrelated to the video but man the gameplay in this video was painful to watch lol
It wasnt about her being a "waifu" its always about it being the male mc was the one with the girl.
First of all, i love yuri, and normal ships, just dont like yaoi ships but... well at least i respect you idk
Mina is too much of a simp, a little too entusiastic simp, trully, shes fun, thats clear.
Just dont enter to C AI in my pc, its too much yuri for someone that is mentally sane
@@ZEUSTHEGOD___ why don't you like yaoi? Do you hate men?