The Daily Doug: All the Works of Nature Which Adorn the World (Nightwish) Reaction | (Ep 206)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2021
  • #Nightwish #NightwishReaction #AllTheWorksOfNature
    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to All the Works of Nature Which Adorn the World by Nightwish. Composer/Keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen has gifted us with this special orchestral tone poem. It was released in April 2020 as the second disc on their Human :II: Nature recording.
    As you watch, keep in mind that I was not seeing the visuals while recording. Thanks to Sensei Music Videos for their work in creating and publishing the stunning visuals.
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  • @stamasd8500
    @stamasd8500 2 года назад +253

    English can be such a false friend sometimes. Moors can refer to Muslims, but in this case it refers to the highlands of Scotland, with mist-covered hills and mountains which also go by the same name. (edit) the final vocalist is indeed Floor. She has been singing that part at the end of their recent live shows.

    • @utnaturalem4379
      @utnaturalem4379 2 года назад +10

      Yorkshire

    • @AnOldGreyDog
      @AnOldGreyDog 2 года назад +9

      @@utnaturalem4379 Devon

    • @uueyeam6398
      @uueyeam6398 2 года назад +7

      And Ireland

    • @richardwest6358
      @richardwest6358 2 года назад +8

      Exmoor, Dartmoor, Yorkshire Moors

    • @RichardFoster
      @RichardFoster 2 года назад +9

      My immediate thought on hearing the title was one of the purple heather and windswept wilds. I hadn't gone quite as far as Scotland, more the area of Yorkshire that is described so well in the works of the Bronte Sisters.

  • @Green-Lyon
    @Green-Lyon 2 года назад +88

    Since no one apparently as of my writing this has mentioned it (I scrolled almost to the bottom), It is worth mentioning that "Anthropocene" contains within it Tuomas's interpretation of the oldest known substantially complete work of notated music in the world known as, "Hurrian Hymn to Nikkal", preserved on clay tablets for 3400 years and found in the 1950's in the ruins of Ugarit in Syria (northern Canaan back in the day).

    • @oceansoul085
      @oceansoul085 2 года назад +2

      Thank you I was here looking to see if anyone had mentioned this.

    • @juharaty5449
      @juharaty5449 2 месяца назад +1

      Wau! That was SUPER interesting! 😯

    • @Green-Lyon
      @Green-Lyon 2 месяца назад

      @@juharaty5449 I know, right! 😃

  • @davidellinsworth22
    @davidellinsworth22 2 года назад +192

    I'd love to hear and see your reaction to "Shoemaker", from the same album..... let's make it happen, Doug? 😃

    • @veladarney
      @veladarney 2 года назад +7

      Seconded! (And bear in mind - they ARE playing that one live though they originally thought it would be too difficult to perform live.)

    • @davidellinsworth22
      @davidellinsworth22 2 года назад +2

      @@veladarney even of I could sing/play drums it would fry my brain trying to play that live 😂

    • @thedarcbird
      @thedarcbird 2 года назад

      @@davidellinsworth22 I bet Nandi Bushell could do it!

  • @erchl54
    @erchl54 2 года назад +80

    Yours is a refreshing example of how a reaction can add, a lot, to the listener experience. Thanks. Please keep on doing them.

  • @sateentuoksu
    @sateentuoksu 2 года назад +23

    The whispers you heard: "quiet as the snow" in multiple languages.
    The whole story:

  • @wivan27
    @wivan27 2 года назад +117

    At the end of Ad Astra, the vocal part resolves, the instrumental part does not. I think this could be interpreted as nature still being there when humankind has disappeared.
    Thanks for another great reaction. As mentioned before, would be great to see a Shoemaker reaction someday.

    • @mitchthepower
      @mitchthepower 2 года назад +5

      Yes or that we just don't know how everything will go on in the future. It's just an open end... exactly like the music here.

    • @Willifrex
      @Willifrex 2 года назад +2

      Like our story hasn't been told in full yet, because we are still in the process of writing it?

    • @wivan27
      @wivan27 2 года назад +3

      I guess I went with this interpretation because it ties in really well with 'Procession'

    • @petey7692
      @petey7692 2 года назад

      depends if we manage to damage the world enough i guess :/

    • @s.b200
      @s.b200 2 года назад +1

      @@petey7692 Geologically speaking we haven't even been here a flicker of a second :) Species exist for a time and go extinct...but mammals are especially prone to rapid extinction. So for certain, that will happen to us too, no matter how we humans damage the earth. We will likely have existed much shorter time than other primates and mammals. It brings perspective to life, and what we are, seen with an outside view. We will be a brightly burning-, brilliant- but short shimmer of light in earth's history.

  • @michaph71
    @michaph71 2 года назад +21

    It is Floor in Ad Astra.

  • @shuriken4852
    @shuriken4852 2 года назад +88

    Now I only need you to react to Tuomas' solo work Music Inspired by the Life and Times of Scrooge and my work here will be complete. HEHE! 😉 Also if you be willing to reach out to Tuomas, I would b really interested in you doing an interview discussing his compositions. Almost forgot, not sure if anyone mentioned this to you Doug, but Nightwish has released versions of certain of their albums with the orchestral part only. The moors is this case is referring to this definition 'a tract of open uncultivated upland; a heath'. The whispering is saying "Quiet as the snow" in multiple language including French my native language and I think Swedish, but cannot figure out the others. BTW it is Floor & Troy singing and playing on the album.

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 2 года назад +14

      Yes! “The Scrooge Album” doesn’t get enough love, but I feel it will be right up Doug’s alley! It’s basically an orchestral album.

    • @nocakewalk
      @nocakewalk 2 года назад +7

      @@T1hitsTheHighestNote Glasgow 1877 is one of the most beatiful pieces of music I know.

    • @leftyme4568
      @leftyme4568 2 года назад +3

      @@nocakewalk The last sled is my favorite, but the entire album is awesome!

    • @Cabernal
      @Cabernal 2 года назад +1

      I'll add my voice, YES PLEASE!

    • @theovanderstorm3171
      @theovanderstorm3171 11 месяцев назад

      I like the Scrooge Album also, it has an instrumental version and one with lyrics, they are both really good.

  • @GustafB
    @GustafB 2 года назад +17

    And let's not forget to send a big thank you to Sensei Music Videos for the awesome unofficial video visualisation. It adds so much to the experience of this composition.

  • @marcelofarah8657
    @marcelofarah8657 2 года назад +45

    Floor is singing in Ad Astra. In fact this is the outro in the live performances now.

    • @FlyingAce1016
      @FlyingAce1016 2 года назад +1

      tuomas's wife also sings in some of this if I remember right (shes the lead in his other band Auri)

    • @marcelofarah8657
      @marcelofarah8657 2 года назад +7

      @@FlyingAce1016 I know who Joana is. She's the one who does the spoken words in shoemaker but as far as I know in the second disk the spoken words were done by Geraldine James, the one in Ad Astra, and the melodic voices were Floor and the choir.

    • @FlyingAce1016
      @FlyingAce1016 2 года назад +1

      @@marcelofarah8657 gotcha thanks! been a while since I heard the album and this song until now again.

  • @dioxygene
    @dioxygene 2 года назад +36

    I must admit, as a long time fan of Prog, I deeply underestimated the work of Nightwish (even if I had heard and liked some of their songs).
    I am working on it, thanks to you Doug!

  • @Thorgrim247
    @Thorgrim247 2 года назад +72

    I think you nailed it Doug. We have been separated from Nature. Floor does some of the vocalizations in these pieces. This Moor's is referring to the lonely desolate moors of Scotland. Thus the Celtic sound. It is Floor doing the climactic vocalizations in Ad Astra. Great job Doug. I loved it so much.

    • @pietheindejonge321
      @pietheindejonge321 2 года назад

      We haven't separated at all: humans are animals and animals are humans.

    • @yibril17
      @yibril17 2 года назад +1

      @@pietheindejonge321 You're reading that at face value: what that separation from Nature meant is to convey the idea that humans live *as if* we weren't going to die. From Draconian's "The Last Hour Of Ancient Sunlight": _In rapture from nature we divorce._ Death is ingrained in Nature, and yet we live oblivious to it...
      _The bewildered sleep - the shadowy voyager is lurking;_
      _he’s in the flesh of landscapes vaporous._
      _The vacant, untiring Sovran of old_
      _He’s the machinery; igniting the paralyzed soil._

  • @MADNarrativeFlow
    @MADNarrativeFlow 2 года назад +24

    Nightwish: "Shoemaker". You NEED to hear this one! You will not regret it! Look for the official lyric video.

  • @HanemanHunters
    @HanemanHunters 2 года назад +29

    Doug is THE man when it comes to orchestral stuff. It was great to listen to the record again, alongside the Professor!

  • @wmlye1
    @wmlye1 2 года назад +29

    The best word I can use to describe this album is "brave". It's a divisive album in the NW fandom, with a lot of people saying "this is the end of Nightwish", and it's not just Disc 2 - Disc 1 is equally as divisive. Nonetheless, Tuomas proposed it to the band, they went along with it, and then Nuclear Blast released it. Brave on so many levels.

    • @TheAnibear
      @TheAnibear 2 года назад

      I completely agree with this. I'm a huge NW fan and it took some time for me to appreciate Human Nature. But brave it is, and I can appreciate it for that alone. And there are some real gems on it, that's for sure

    • @isaiahwelch8066
      @isaiahwelch8066 2 года назад +7

      People who want the same musical ideas, reiterated in different ways, are stagnant people, afraid of change.
      If Tuomas has shown me anything with his musical genius, it is that it is only right that change is good, otherwise we never grow and learn. To stop learning and growing is to begin dying -- and Tuomas has given us many, many variations and "stories" throughout the Nightwish journey, and beyond, showing us how he had changed and grown, as well as Floor, and others.
      This is not the end of Nightwish, merely a different chapter in the Nightwish story.

    • @khymaaren
      @khymaaren 2 года назад +1

      It's the end of Nightwish... as those fans would prefer them. I say it's their loss. Staying the same is anathema to progress. The idea applies to music in more ways than one.

    • @ThisICommand666
      @ThisICommand666 Год назад +2

      Human :II: Nature's not my favorite of theirs, but I'm glad they did something different. Since Once, the band has really adhered to that formula going all the way up to EFMB. But H:II:N does have some great songs on it, and Disc 2 is wonderful to use as writing music.

  • @majbrat
    @majbrat 2 года назад +33

    Love this so much.
    That is Floor singing operatically in the pieces along with the choirs. She did the Ad Astra live for their virtual concert and it was glorious! You still need to listen to more Nightwish.
    Their other member Troy plays the Uilleann Pipes on many songs, on stage, as well as Irish Low Whistles, flutes, the Irish Mandolin, acoustic guitar, and the Electric guitar with an e-bow. You did not finish your journey yet ;)
    Troy ans Tuomas have another project called Auri with Tuomas' wife, singer Johanba Kurkela. Lovely.

  • @jamesschwarz007
    @jamesschwarz007 2 года назад +28

    The whispering in "Quiet As The Snow" is the title of that piece in different languages.

  • @Niczter
    @Niczter 2 года назад +13

    It is Floor singing in Ad Astra. She sings the part at the end of the concerts now when they perform!

  • @marek3707
    @marek3707 2 года назад +58

    Nightwish likes to surprise, the entire last album was a bit of a surprise to many fans of the band. For me personally it was a very, very pleasant surprise. And this track which you have just listened to is a kind of completion of the first part of the album, showing by the music itself what the album is about and what its message is. It's a great album, and I think you should definitely listen to the songs from the first part as well - as a composer you would have a lot to say. (And us to listen to:-)).
    You used to listen to the band Epica. I think it is very worthwhile for you to go back to this band and listen to their latest album "Omega". Not only because it's also a great album, but also because every song has an orchestral version in addition to the main album version, and some have acoustic versions as well. I think I'm not the only one who would be very interested in your opinion and analysis.
    As always good to see you - see you soon!

    • @GustafB
      @GustafB 2 года назад +1

      I agree, Doug you really should look into Epica and their most recent album Omega.

    • @Filip-gz1lh
      @Filip-gz1lh 2 года назад +1

      Definitely, I would love to see him reacting to Kingdom of Heaven from Omega, masterpiece and great album overall. Still I believe the best composed are The Phantom Agony and Holographic Principle songs (album named), but the newest album is incredible.

  • @pietkeizer5216
    @pietkeizer5216 2 года назад +33

    Hey Doug…of course it’sFloor singing Ad Astra. You can watch it live now. Last month in Oulu. Amazing Floor. Greetings from The Netherlands

  • @edwardscott482
    @edwardscott482 2 года назад +25

    Found Nightwish around the same time you did and really have become to love their music. Toumas is a beautiful composer. Thank you for doing this!

  • @billattercliffe8655
    @billattercliffe8655 2 года назад +7

    Moors are undulating uplands with low growing plant life, heathers, grasses, shrubs, etc. Probably the best known are the ones in England, but they're common around the world. The changes in the music during the "Moors" reflects the changing weather that is typical of moors.
    The soloist was Floor. She is capable of so many voices, it's sometimes hard to recognize her at times, for example, the siren calls in her cover of "Into the Unknown" don't quite sound like her at first.
    And finally, "Ad Astra" played live recently as their show closer: ruclips.net/video/tDr7LwlvEYQ/видео.html. As you can hear, the soloist is most definitely Floor. That sustained note at the end is epic.

  • @joslauwers7960
    @joslauwers7960 2 года назад +22

    In "Moors" the piano is playing "The Great-est Show On Earth" in 6 notes.
    Tuomas does this often: In The Greatest Show On Earth he added other names of songs via instrumental notes.

    • @MichaelLoda
      @MichaelLoda 2 года назад

      What do you mean, can you explain exactly? I'm curious

    • @AndreSomers
      @AndreSomers 2 года назад

      @@MichaelLoda He likes to “quote” fragments from other pieces of music. They often seem to signify a thematic connection.

    • @MichaelLoda
      @MichaelLoda 2 года назад

      @@AndreSomers Oh yeah I know about TGSOE having songs like Bach's Minuet and others. I thought he meant something else

  • @mantailuaa
    @mantailuaa 2 года назад +9

    My favorite of these ”sections” is Quiet As The Snow, the wishpers are the title in different languages. Tuomas has painted with instruments all the different kind of snowy days and nights into this one piece of amazing music. I’m getting emotional every time I listen to it, this music just pulls my heartstrings the right way.

  • @igordemetriusalencar5861
    @igordemetriusalencar5861 2 года назад +24

    This album is a masterpiece!! Your reaction is a masterclass!! Thank you Doug!

  • @ricardogrimes2926
    @ricardogrimes2926 2 года назад +7

    That ending, Doug, is like life itself. There's so much going on, so many sounds and experiences then, all of a sudden, is all quiet again, just like before we were born.

  • @eddiewinehosen6665
    @eddiewinehosen6665 2 года назад +8

    Apart from the magnificent compositions credit to the fan who did this video to go with the music. Toumas has seen it and loved it so much that he included it in the official Nightwish exhibition at their museum in Kitee, Finland.

  • @amandadunkley1686
    @amandadunkley1686 2 года назад +11

    Did I see you starting to well up there during ad astra? I don't know what it is but that piece of music has me in tears everytime... Everytime without fail. Floor does the vocals during the piece so wonderfully.

  • @treintje1001
    @treintje1001 2 года назад +21

    You almost got it right. It is indeed the musical sign for repeat. Indeed it separates human from nature, but in a slightly different way than you mentioned. As you mentioned it is a double album and the first disc contains all songs which all in some way have humans as a subject. So the first disc is about humans. The instrumental part on disc 2 is Tuomas’s homage to Nature, so the second disc is Nature.

  • @zachweatherhead5525
    @zachweatherhead5525 2 года назад +6

    A Tuomas and Hans Zimmer collaboration for the next David Attenborough documentary series is the dream I need to come to reality

  • @sianpodmore4988
    @sianpodmore4988 2 года назад +8

    Shivers up my spine, tears in my eyes, no words. Thank you Doug

    • @k.l.7788
      @k.l.7788 2 года назад +1

      Thank you Nightwish. ❤️

  • @glendawatson331
    @glendawatson331 2 года назад +10

    Doug the Moors have very unpredictable weather patterns the strings that you liked represented the wind blowing across the open moors it is remarkable how much they sound like the wind whistling through them
    The music really represents the changing weather pattern on the Moors

  • @Elviolli
    @Elviolli 2 года назад +36

    I’ve been avoiding watching reactions to this piece. Mainly because I don’t want to watch sapiens mindlessly nod along to it and pretend that they are knowing what’s going on…or pretending that they don’t hate it because it’s not heavy.
    This one I watched because I know Doug will both love and understand it. It was a pleasure. Thank you.

    • @themajor743
      @themajor743 2 года назад +5

      Yet to see any hate - you need to check out more reactions - it will raise your opinion of the human race in general and NW fans in particular. Tankthetech would be a good place to start.

    • @Elviolli
      @Elviolli 2 года назад

      @@themajor743 Tank did it? I didn’t think he did.

    • @themajor743
      @themajor743 2 года назад

      @@Elviolli ruclips.net/video/oNwb2wiiiHU/видео.html

    • @Elviolli
      @Elviolli 2 года назад +1

      @@themajor743 ahh ok yeah no I remember. I didn’t watch it because it was a live stream. They tend to be a bit chaotic. However! I will probably check it out at some point. Love Tank’s stuff.

  • @josmetaldesu5033
    @josmetaldesu5033 2 года назад +8

    Ad Astra always hits me in the feels..

  • @nolongerthere
    @nolongerthere 2 года назад +24

    Thanks, Doug! I'd never even heard of Nightwish and this is a wonderful intro to this remarkable band. For the most part, I cannot get into anything proggy since 1979; it all sounds derivative of the creative masterminds of the 70's, much as the musicianship is usually strong. But this is new and innovative, while melodic and unabashedly beautiful. Love it!

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 2 года назад

      I'd recommend checking out this modern prog piece:
      Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down - The Source (2017)
      ruclips.net/video/oFuMKdrzPqU/видео.html

    • @isaiahwelch8066
      @isaiahwelch8066 2 года назад

      You can add "Star One" to that as well, since Arjen is releasing another album next month -- and two musicians are already confirmed: Brittney Slayes of Unleash the Archers, as well as Michael Romeo:
      ruclips.net/video/vn7P3oVMnys/видео.html

  • @Hansse
    @Hansse 2 года назад +5

    That was absolutely another magnificent piece of music from the wizard Tuomas.

  • @martinhodgson2303
    @martinhodgson2303 2 года назад +7

    Must admit that I had not listened to this album right through Doug, just the singles and one or two other tracks. All good but this is quite an incredible piece of music, absolutely magical. Thanks for putting me onto it and for pointing me at the wonderful video Doug. It is beautiful, superb images, with the music so supremely evocative. Well done Nightwish and wonderful reaction as always Doug, I really can listen to your music analysis all day! Keep doing what you do!

  • @emjem99
    @emjem99 2 года назад +10

    Wonderful! Ad Astra leaves me in tears and wanting more (and that voice has to be Floor).

  • @lasse4416
    @lasse4416 Год назад +2

    I love it how the music representating nature is left unfinished but human singing, while beautiful, comes to an end.

  • @c.h.a.z
    @c.h.a.z Год назад +1

    Just watched this in whole. Doug you’re the best.

  • @DrumsAndGadgets
    @DrumsAndGadgets 2 года назад +10

    Thanks again for a great reaction. About the ending; maybe it ended that way because our story is not at the end and future is open? And not doomed or everything will suck or whatever. Tuomas has this "positive poet" inside of him although many of his compositions are lyrically sometimes in the darker side of life. To me his message is "for some most beautiful reasons, we are here and we can decide what or future will be.

  • @Smuffleri
    @Smuffleri 2 года назад +7

    From 29:25 -> onwards that string tremolo is a very Sibelius vibe, maybe a nod from Tuomas to our national composer? :) Loved your reaction

  • @onsesejoo2605
    @onsesejoo2605 2 года назад +4

    To my ears, the cello theme in "Blue" reminds of "Peltoniemen Hintriikan surumarssi", which is a Finnish folk song for violin. Lyrics were added 1964.

  • @cmaxxen
    @cmaxxen 2 года назад +7

    I think it was about the landscape type, also called moors.

  • @edenmaack
    @edenmaack 2 года назад +5

    Thank you! This is the piece I most wanted to get your reaction to.
    I love how intertwined All the Works of Nature is. The end theme of Moors is the same as Floor’s vocal in Ad Astra, Quiet as the Snow reprises the cello from Vista as well as using a very similar pattern of harps and strings from The Green, and the mechanical (Sorcerer’s Apprentice) passage from Anthropocene is the theme from The Blue. I think that’s why the tempo is the same throughout. In fact, I’m pretty sure the entire suite hovers right around 100 BPM and the entire thing is 4/4. This feels very intentional to me since Tuomas is usually not shy about changing up tempo and time signature. It makes the piece as a whole a little same-y, but also contributes to the continuity and the sense that the piece is meant to be listened to without breaking it up. I think it also makes a statement that nature has a constant presence and rhythm even when overlaid by the tension and tremolo of the anthropocene and when we look beyond to the stars.

  • @paulmdevenney
    @paulmdevenney 2 года назад +7

    I've really been looking forward to you digging into this masterpiece. I love that its not been compressed to hell and back There is a genuine dynamic range to the piece from quiet as the snow to the ending.
    After listening to this piece the Cello was cemented as my favourite orchestral instrument (tied maybe with the french horn ). You're right that its a brave decision to include it in the album. It has divided people slightly (I love it and would happily buy more of Tuomas classical stuff), but to my its Tuomas ultimate reminder that Nightwish is just *good music*.
    Yes its the uillean pipes (actually pronounced "ill-ee-an" apparently)
    A MOOR is a flat plain at the top of hills (also a GLEN). Not sure how far that work has travelled, but its common in the british isles.
    Yes, the final vocalist is Floor. She does this bit live now.
    As usual Tuomas will add tension or anger with the arrival of humanity in his works (anthropacene). If it was a metal track, it would be time to get super heavy. Here I love the use of the tremolo to bring that tension.
    Interesting comments on lack of a fast moment. I think that's fair. I love the 30 mins as is, because its chilled and beautiful. Maybe next time he'll add something faster.
    The conclusion of the piece is typicially Tuomas (its the same as the main part of Greatest Show on Earth), an explosion / timpani hit. Either its "Blast off" or a monumental explosion. I Dare say that Tuomas is challenging us to affect which one of these it turns out to be. The future is yet unwritten...

  • @LisuLoysa
    @LisuLoysa Год назад +1

    i just love your knowledge of music

  • @oldhedders
    @oldhedders 2 года назад +1

    That is indeed the Uillean pipes on Moors. The piper is Troy Donockley, a member of Nightwish and also of Tuomas' other band, Auri. It's an extraordinarily difficult instrument to play, with seven reeds to manage and (as I understand it) anything outside the key of D requiring the player to bend the notes artificially. Troy is one of a very small number of people worldwide who can play the Uillean pipes to a high standard. In Nightwish he also plays the whistles and the bazouki, as well as providing backing vocals and some lovely Dave Gilmour-esque guitar. You might remember the intro to The Greatest Show on Earth with the guitar line played using an e-bow? That's Troy.

  • @SuzJCD
    @SuzJCD 9 месяцев назад

    The end section of Quiet As The Snow seems eerily reminiscent of Neptune in Holst's Planet Suite. Love this so much, thanks Doug!

  • @nightwishlover8913
    @nightwishlover8913 Год назад +2

    Dammit, Holopainen, you made me cry! Again.

  • @one42chrisp
    @one42chrisp 2 года назад +7

    Hi Doug, it seems we have the same birthday, although I have had quite a few more than you ;) In this piece I believe “Moor” refers to a kind of habitat found in upland areas, the British Isles are covered in moors, as in Exmoor and Dartmoor, the Yorkshire moors and the moors of Scotland. They are covered in low-growing vegetation as in grasses, shrubs and notably in Scotland, heather. Wikipedia has a great article on it.
    This music is very similar in style to Tuomas’ “soundtrack” to the graphic novel, “The Life and Times of Scrooge”, one album, ten tracks, something Tuomas wrote a few years back when Nightwish took a year off. Well worth listening to.
    Really loved your reaction, thank you.

    • @SuperMoofie
      @SuperMoofie 2 года назад +2

      The movie in 1959 starring Peter Cushing as Sherlock Holmes (The Hound of the Baskervilles), was shot on the Moors. It's an unrelenting, unworldly place, yet strangely captivating and beautiful all at the same time. It's such a sublime pleasure to delve further into the world of Tuomas' genius and be swept along this wonderful journey of sound and powetry in his music. It's life-giving :) Thanks Doug for an interesting as always view, into the technical aspects of his music :) It adds so much more to the listening experience.

  • @jonno55
    @jonno55 2 года назад +3

    Very much liked our reaction.
    As you mentioned, and yes, nicely put "Magnum opus", it's courageous, even extremely courageous (IMHO) to have this piece on a metal album.
    Part one is exceptional, this part is exquisite.
    Don't think there are many NW fans who doesn't like this.
    For me, this is mandatory once a week

    • @yibril17
      @yibril17 2 года назад

      Ambitious, instead of courageous, is a more suitable term. Such things (this kind of pieces in metal albums) have existed before to an extent: it's just half an album (from a double one). I can think of (Tilo Wolff's) LACRIMOSA, regarding ambitiousness orchestral-wise...
      However, the one that pushed its ambitiousness the furthest that I can think of (even further than NIGHTWISH) is VIRGIN BLACK: they composed and recorded a full work ("Requiem - Mezzo Forte", "Requiem - Fortissimo" and "Requiem - Pianissimo"), intended to be released as a triple album. Issues with their record label ended up in 3 separate albums, the last one ("Pianissimo") being an orchestral one.
      I guess very few here already know LACRIMOSA or VIRGIN BLACK... and it's such a shame :(

  • @profjohnfrinks
    @profjohnfrinks 2 года назад +11

    Perhaps the album ending without resolve is a reference to the idea that this spec of dust suspended in a sun beam can go out in any moment, resolve or not.

    • @suntiger745
      @suntiger745 2 года назад +2

      Yes, but also that neither our (humanity’s) story, not the planet’s, is finished. We don’t know how it ends, yet. :)

  • @alnitak208
    @alnitak208 2 года назад +6

    Yes, the instrument in the beginning of "Moors" is Uillean pipes.

    • @alnitak208
      @alnitak208 2 года назад +2

      You can also hear uillean pipes in "Easter" by Marillion, highly recommended song (though I prefer Fish-era Marillion). ruclips.net/video/5pQ2Cr-UEF4/видео.html

    • @keithbond9423
      @keithbond9423 2 года назад

      Yes, I would love to hear a reaction to Marillion. I love both Fish and Hogarth era.
      Easter is a great song.
      Other great songs to consider for a reaction:
      Great Escape (live)
      Invisible Man (live from Out of Season)
      Neverland (live)
      Many many more, but those are a great introduction.

    • @alnitak208
      @alnitak208 2 года назад

      @@keithbond9423 I'd rather hear a reaction to "Script for a jester's tear", "She cameleon", "Incubus", "Bitter suite", or "White Russian" first.

  • @nornog
    @nornog 2 года назад +3

    I would love to see this performed live, by them with a symphony.

  • @lucreziatrevellyan5499
    @lucreziatrevellyan5499 2 года назад +3

    This has me itching to see you break down the first half of the album. In order. There’s definitely enough musically in each song to talk about!

  • @Drinckx2
    @Drinckx2 2 года назад +5

    Floor is the female soloist on ‘Nature’ .

  • @dissonantpulse
    @dissonantpulse 2 года назад +17

    Cello? Metal? Apocalyptica.

    • @Qwarzz
      @Qwarzz 2 года назад +1

      First thing that came in mind from his mention of melodic cello.

  • @Piia2023
    @Piia2023 2 года назад +4

    Thank you, really enjoyed this and all the musical information you gave. I was really surprised how much negative feedback this second cd got from the public, like this is not Nightwish aso. I am too very glad Tuomas decided go ahead to put this out with Nightwish. He is one of the greatest composer's there is, and I love this cd listen to it almost everyday. If you haven't do Shoemaker by Nightwish, another great piece by Tuomas and Floors singing.

  • @ryanf4497
    @ryanf4497 2 года назад +1

    That is Floor singing that melody during Ad Astra and I love that melody. Beautiful!

    • @pietheindejonge321
      @pietheindejonge321 2 года назад

      Are you sure? It sounds quite different when she sings it live during the outro of the show!

  • @LuisRdzG10
    @LuisRdzG10 2 года назад +4

    Yeah Doug, it was Floor all the time

  • @lordoverflow
    @lordoverflow 2 года назад +3

    "The Earth is in B flat" made me laugh because I was imaging Tuomas trying to tell the World that the Earth is flat and I was like "Nooo! Not from all the people..."

  • @tinker4261
    @tinker4261 2 года назад +14

    nice one, thanks a lot! I really do love this piece, although I do sometimes feel conflicted in calling it a Nightwish track, since it only features Tuomas, Troy and Floor. But then again it works pretty well a contrasting piece to the first CD of the album.
    And yes Floor was in it^^ singing both in the first part (Vista) where you didn't think it sounded quite like her, and in the last part (Ad Astra) where you said it sounded like her but didn't think it was her^^.
    At the time of the album recording (2019) she wasn't on a break due to giving birth. The break was in 2017, which the guys in the band actually wanted to take after 20 year of work, so she and her husband decided, might as well be a good time to get a child, lol.

  • @oolillemyoo4099
    @oolillemyoo4099 2 года назад +4

    You’d be surprised (as a non-metal head) at the relatively large amount of people who enjoy metal AND classical music.
    Also, a pretty large percentage of hardcore metal fans have played “classical” instruments themselves.
    I mean, there’s a reason Symphonic Metal got so popular in the first place; love metal + love classical music = Symphonic Metal :)

    • @oolillemyoo4099
      @oolillemyoo4099 2 года назад +1

      Sorry, can’t edit my original comment - my point is that for me, knowing Nightwish’s hardcore fans, the addition of this second classical disc is perfect and natural :)

  • @RenThraysk
    @RenThraysk 2 года назад +23

    Tuomas seems to write music for whatever feels deserves it. He did release "Music inspired by the Life and Times of Scrooge" album under his own name because didn't fit with the band.

  • @npinjest7779
    @npinjest7779 2 года назад +8

    In this case moors refer to moorlands, the habitat/landscape you find in, among other places, northern Europe. I always associate it with Great Britain, but Finland got those too, if I am not mistaken.

    • @DiaboLusitano
      @DiaboLusitano 2 года назад

      In Portugal as well... Check "Serra da Gardunha" ; "Serra da Estrela" or "Serra do Gerês".

  • @madelineshockley5906
    @madelineshockley5906 2 года назад +1

    Such a spiritual experience, moved so many times. As you spoke the visual was amazing. I feel so blessed to have experienced this on Sunday morning. Many many Thanks.

  • @taurusguy9305
    @taurusguy9305 2 года назад +8

    Wow finally you've done the longest Nightwish song reaction.

  • @Em-ih5du
    @Em-ih5du 2 года назад +1

    As for the whispering, I couldn't get it all but in the right ear they say "still as the snow" and in the left they say "comme la neige" (french for 'like the snow')

  • @tomwilcox3670
    @tomwilcox3670 2 года назад +2

    Excellent review. Now its time for you to review something that you have written in your career! Take us through one of your musical journeys.

  • @homegnome2429
    @homegnome2429 2 года назад +11

    I think you were absolutely right to do the reaction without the fan-made video and add it on after. Although the video is a visual masterpiece, it's also pretty distracting from the music on a first listen. Other reactors I've seen are often commenting more on the visuals than the music itself, and of course the visuals are approved by Nightwish but weren't created by them and so don't necessarily represent exactly what Tuomas envisioned. Mind you they probably didn''t have the knowledge to comment that much on the composition by comparison anyway!...
    Really enjoyed it and I'll put another vote down for Shoemaker from the Human disc although compositionally Pan might be the one that would grab you the most.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  2 года назад +8

      Shoemaker is next on the list from Nightwish...when I get back around to them.

    • @homegnome2429
      @homegnome2429 2 года назад

      @@Doug.Helvering That's great, I'll be looking forward to that one - I doubt whether Pan will ever get up there in requests so maybe just have a look for yourself?!

  • @DjKorppi
    @DjKorppi Год назад +1

    I keep coming back to this. In my opinion this is the best song-reactor combo in youtube.

  • @JanneTarhanen
    @JanneTarhanen 2 года назад +3

    I have this human:||:nature album, but I hadn't listened this album yet, not before this day. I've been sort of waiting that special moment to enjoy this orchestral piece. And immediately when I saw this Doug's video, I thought this might be the occasion where I should listen to this and the decision I made, I didn't regret that. Thank you Doug for this enjoyable journey of Nature album.

  • @hectorvaladez533
    @hectorvaladez533 2 года назад +5

    Here is a suggestion for metal Monday, Consign to Oblivion by Epica.

  • @deniscanton6395
    @deniscanton6395 2 года назад +3

    Thanks a lot, Doug, for this "revelation" to me !

  • @johngoverts4166
    @johngoverts4166 2 года назад +3

    Wow! Just... wow...

  • @thomaskaldstrom5194
    @thomaskaldstrom5194 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant reaction! As a Nightwish fan for 20 yrs this make real sence with Nature part to be the second part of human || nature...and in these times with fires and heat records all over the globe Tuomas grab it all within the album. Humans have to start respecting the nature..we have to live with it not use it

  • @no_onein2024
    @no_onein2024 2 года назад +1

    Yes, That is Floor in the main female vocal parts with a backing choir

  • @werc85music
    @werc85music 2 года назад +5

    We would love to see your reaction to "Shoemaker" 🙏

  • @hyl14nn1gh7
    @hyl14nn1gh7 2 года назад +2

    This was an awesome experience! You should check out Dream Theater's "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" live version from their "Score" concert for more symphonic goodness!

  • @anssia3123
    @anssia3123 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for an informative and interesting reaction, enjoyed this a lot. I recommend that you also check out the official music video for Ad Astra, it's beautiful and important. Also for future reactions I recommend to you "film music" by Tuomas, "Music Inspired by the Life and Times of Scrooge", which is an album based on the Scrooge McDuck comic books. Tuomas is a big fan, so am I, and the music is beautiful and cinematic. Tuomas is a storyteller, which is why I enjoy his music.

  • @firefox7530
    @firefox7530 2 года назад +4

    You have to listen to the other tracks to fully understand everything. Also do them as Tuomas intended them to be listen from beginning to the end. You will find a new Nightwish, 3 people singing beautiful harmonies and Troy and Marco even have their own dedicated songs. Use their Music Videos and also watch and understand their visuals. It has lots of very important references to even understand more about this whole album....

  • @rickphil9999
    @rickphil9999 Год назад +1

    So lovely and such a great reaction. I approached the second album reluctantly because of how much I love Floor performing with Nightwish. But this instrumental album has become one of my favorites for meditation or just as background listening. Tuomas is wonderful in his creativity. Another one of his orchestral pieces that invokes similar feelings for me is "A Lifetime of Adventure", from his album "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck". Loved this.

  • @PlugInKali
    @PlugInKali 2 года назад +2

    When you think of it from a thematic point of view, it makes perfect sense that the piece doesn't resolve, because human history (which was basically the theme of the album, nature and how humans fit in it), still isn't over. Once you have explored Earth, you set off to the stars and where we go from there is yet to be written. That's why I really hope Nightwish's next album has something to do with space, sci-fi or just the future of humanity in general. It would be an incredible ending to the story they started in Endless Forms Most Beautiful :)

  • @leftyme4568
    @leftyme4568 Год назад +1

    Whenever you think you know where you are going ....Tuomas will take you somewhere else!!

  • @zachweatherhead5525
    @zachweatherhead5525 2 года назад +4

    Interesting for Aurorae you said more American Western- to me it had a feeling of Irish Dance songs as I imagine the lights dancing through the sky. Maybe similar inspiration to Moors with the Celtic element?

  • @kezca
    @kezca 2 года назад +2

    Oh thankyou for doing this one imho its a masterpiece.

  • @meravl7615
    @meravl7615 2 года назад +1

    You look so happy. This makes it even more fun.

  • @geromino2007
    @geromino2007 2 года назад +8

    One some point it would be interesting if YOU can react to NIghtwish "Turn Loose the Mermaids" studio version. It's a nice folk song, but very cool midle part that pays homage to Ennio Morricone western music in my opinion - creating very interesting blend.

  • @NumberOneChin
    @NumberOneChin 2 года назад +6

    Speaking of 'movie music', you might enjoy listening through any of Thomas Bergersen's albums. I believe he released one recently with Humanity as its theme.

    • @Engenification
      @Engenification 2 года назад

      I second this 👍🏻

    • @WardDorrity
      @WardDorrity 2 года назад

      I put Bergersen in the same class as Tuomas. It is interesting that their ideas and compositions of late are concerned with and inspired by humanity and human nature. BTW, Bergersen's Humanity is a seven volume work, of which three have been released so far. Tuomas seems to me to have a wider range of expression, and the work reviewed here is one of genuine genius.

  • @neilsontc
    @neilsontc 2 года назад +1

    The official video put out for Ad Astra is very moving, worth taking a look

  • @petersundqvist5465
    @petersundqvist5465 2 года назад

    can´t find words .. it´s so good , so freking .......

  • @garanceadrosehn9691
    @garanceadrosehn9691 2 года назад +11

    If you were a huge fan of Sherlock Holmes, the word "moors" would bring to mind:
    Moor -- a noun, mainly British --
    - a tract of open uncultivated upland; a heath (e.g.: a little town in the moors).
    - a tract of open land preserved for shooting (e.g.: a grouse moor).
    Comes from the old-English "mōr" , of Germanic origin.

    • @hannadegerlund3227
      @hannadegerlund3227 2 года назад +2

      Morse fan :)

    • @RenThraysk
      @RenThraysk 2 года назад +2

      Yes, Hound of the Baskervilles is what immediately comes to mind with the word moors.

    • @gwooledge
      @gwooledge 2 года назад +1

      Jane Eyre is the first one that comes to mind for me.

  • @marcelofarah8657
    @marcelofarah8657 2 года назад +23

    For me moors has to do with moorland not "the moors" (the person). This disc is the "nature" part of the album, the first disc is the "human" part.

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 2 года назад +2

      ”The Anthropocene is a proposed geological epoch dating from the commencement of significant human impact on Earth's geology and ecosystems, including, but not limited to, anthropogenic climate change.” (Wikipedia)
      This is humans eventually starting to affect Nature, our Pale Blue Dot. 🌍
      We have the cuneiform writing and the Sumerians (cradle of human civilisation) all over this album. Agriculture was the beginning of Man taking control over Nature. In this movement we hear an interpretation of the earliest documented music that has survived to the modern world: “Hurrian Hymn to Nikkal”.
      The Hurrian songs are a collection of music inscribed in cuneiform on clay tablets excavated from the ancient Amorite-Canaanite city of Ugarit, which date to approximately 1400 BCE.
      It’s fitting that this movement is followed by Ad Astra (To the Stars).
      So the Nature disc is not only about it being separated from humans, but the interplay with its dominant species.

    • @marcelofarah8657
      @marcelofarah8657 2 года назад

      @@T1hitsTheHighestNote I'm talking about the "Moors" part. He said, in that part, it was about the Moors( Muslim inhabitants of the Maghreb, the Iberian Peninsula, Sicily and Malta during the Middle Ages) when that word means "a tract of open uncultivated upland; a heath" (Oxford Dictionary). Antropocene is another section of the song.

  • @donaldcampbell9483
    @donaldcampbell9483 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyed the reaction. This is just an incredible album.

  • @RonniePeterson
    @RonniePeterson 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic reaction and for me your minds eye was certainly picking up the visuals. But that is Floor!

  • @bwiedor
    @bwiedor Год назад

    I enjoy this entire suite more and more, every time I listen to it. It's become one of my go-to pieces to just sit back, and lose myself in it from start to finish. So very glad that they made this, and that you did this video to appreciate it.

  • @youtubesucksforforcingthis
    @youtubesucksforforcingthis 2 года назад +2

    Now you'll have to check out Tuomas' album The Life and Times of Scrooge! I think it will be right up your alley

  • @MattSamma
    @MattSamma 2 года назад +15

    What a wonderful. Tuomas is a brilliant composer.
    Definitely you need to hear some of the long-duration pieces from Rhapsody of Fire. You'll surely like that stuff.

    • @eduturk9
      @eduturk9 2 года назад +3

      i have suggested Rhapsody before, "the dark tower of abyss", "the wizard's last rhymes", "gargoyles... " etc

    • @MattSamma
      @MattSamma 2 года назад

      @@eduturk9 Yeah, me too. But there are many great bands out there for him.
      I think he'll love Rhapsody for the orchestatred parts, but I'm not sure if he would like the double-drum thing that they have on many of their songs XD

    • @timothyfunk1883
      @timothyfunk1883 2 года назад

      I think he would love select Rhapsody songs. I think Lamento Eroico from their live in Montreal show would be fabulous.
      I also think he would really enjoy Warriors Pride by Luca Turilli! I'm pretty sure he would hate the constant double bass in most of their other songs hah.

    • @MattSamma
      @MattSamma 2 года назад

      @@timothyfunk1883 I agree on Lamento Eroico. But he said that he likes the long songs and, for the orchestra part, Symphony of Enchanted Lands, Gargoyles or Erian's Mystical Rhymes would be great choices-

    • @gringle8578
      @gringle8578 2 года назад

      @@MattSamma yup that's the problem with Rhapsody of fire, double-kicks everywhere. XD

  • @GustafB
    @GustafB 2 года назад +1

    So glad that you reacted to this! Thanks!