I frankly didn't really expect that Kislev would have access to creatures that are essentially beastmen like this, though obvious it appears to be more relating to the hag witches. A bit of Whiplash honestly. Was kinda hoping we help fill out the Bear cult with kostaltyn and lay out the supposed civil war brewing between the Orthodoxy and the Kislivite government. However this is still intriguing and hopefully they show us more.
@@robosoldier11 The "Leshi"-style monster is a Greater Elemental of the Wind of Beasts, it doesn't really have anything to do with beastmen lorewise, although the visuals can trick you.
@@kudowazzupman1878 same amount of units spread over more factions isn't really a plus imo. We need 11 new units for Cathay, not 11 new units spread over 3 factions. WH3 factions rosters are mighty thin.
@@StoicGoat. No offense, but do kindly shut up. People like you are why I want to facepalm every time people complain when CA announces a new DLC. And that's mainly because you guys never look at the stuff beyond the surface, yet complain the loudest, as if there's nothing in the DLC. And I do mostly agree with your one good point, that it's because they units are spread out that it seems small, even though it isn't.
@@Nadz203 What is with so many people and being complete idiots? It's like no one is capable of thinking to ask any question and just hate on CA instead.
@@chubbyninja89what is with people and being complete kiss-asses? It is like no one is capable of critizing CA and just pucker up for anything they make
@@VLarraechea why would this exprbitant price be a good thing? Like, you are the one spending your money. If we just lay down and take it, like your mum, this will just keep getting more ridiculous
I really adore the atmosphere and music in this trailer. All three lords and their factions look really cool so i can't wait to see what else they have
@@yayomh Buhu im Poor :::::( Maybe dont Donate 100$ for a guy u watch playing a game, or waste them on Skins or other crap in a free to play Phone game and even u can afford it
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Wow... Troll alert. Maybe money doesnt have any value to you. because you use mommys credit card. Also this is not about being poor. This is about accepting less content for more money. Also apperently you know that person plays expensive phone games? how would you come across that info?
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Can't stress how pathetic you sound. Not only is your rhetoric based on soundless assumption that this guy is poor or does not know to use this money, but you are not even trying to justify why the price is correct in your opinion. I know logic is probably not your thing, but if you are a total war veteran you will at least know that this DLC, which adds very little content (No new race, 3 new factions/LL, a few units, a generic Lord for Cathay, a generic hero for Kislev), is on the smaller side of DLCs. You used to get a new race for 150% less money. If you are ok with this, good for you, but don't go patronizing people with your tiny mind.
For a price same as forge of the chaos dwarfs there should be equal amount of new units and a new lore of magic. I always love new content but there should be more content in the DLC or lower the price because now it looks ridiculous
I'll bet you the DLC will stay pricey as a not-so-subtle way of hedging their bets with Pharaoh Total War. Total Warhammer has been paying handsomely for some time, while Pharaoh is another gamble for them at this point. With Troy and Britannia not doing so well in the past, I'll bet they are nervous. And especially with Three Kingdoms failing to keep its feet under itself.
I thougt maybe 15€ but 25€ is too expensive for me. Nurgel maybe but this one nah (maybe sale) price increase is okay but 2(+)x the price of old lord packs for a few more units. MY OPINION but hopefully people still buy dlcs and have fun.
@@ggwp6075 i've been buying all the DLCs so far but if it's okay for you that big corporation sells less for more and I shouldn't criticise them and just cream it then it's sad
At this price point I'm going to have to wait for a complete edition to pick up the rest of the DLCs. They've just priced me out. Fortunately there is no shortage of other games right now that are actually worth the money. I can wait for a 75% off sale.
I tried to warn people when they paid this exorbitant price for Chaos dwarves, that if they supported it, it'd be here to stay. And here we are. If you want the DLC that equates to maybe 5% of the base game content, you have to pay nearly 50% of the base games price. Makes me sad, Total war was by far my most played franchise on PC. But its no longer sustainable.
Lords are included in the factions Cathay: Yuan Bo Celestial Lord Onyx crossbows Jet and Jade Lion Kislev: Mother Ostankya Hag witch hero Akshina Rangers The things in the woods Elemental incarnate beast Tzeentch: Changeling Blue scribes Aekold Helbrass Tzaangors Mutalex Vortex Beast Cockatrice Now lots of the units look like new skeletons and not reskins but it's not a full 12 units not including heroes or lords
When Cathay was first introduced (super civilised and dragony) I was deeply sceptical, it seemed to be treading too hard on elvish toes (my toes), but I think CA have done a fantastic job. I might still have some small misgivings about how Cathay sits in the lore, but I think that to a large extent they seem to fit remarkably well, it feels like Warhammer, I can believe it is Warhammer, and that's the important thing. This trailer shows things which seem to fit into that world (perhaps the best post-Tolkien fantasy world), certainly a darn sight more believable than 'The End Times'. What the authors of 'The End Times' seemed to forget, is that a fantasy world, although it may be fanciful, must still be coherent to be compelling, just like any artistic invention (unless it is entirely postmodern - in which case it might not be art at all) it must make internal sense, we must be able to believe in it. CA seem to believe in the world of Warhammer, and I thank them for that belief.
25$ for a race DLC was already insane. 25$ for a DLC that doesn't event contain a new race, but only some legendary lords for existing races and a few new units is absolutely nuts. The DLC policy is getting worse and worse.
Yep, but did you notice what they give immortal empires to everyone for free? what they did a huge sale when the people like you start to stink about how expensive the game? Dude relax, they need money too. They can't just destroy there own company for someone like you, because you can't just give them freaking 25$. it is nothing in this world and economy right now. So please respect what they do. DLC is very very cool
Additions look amazing, but if this is just a lord pack then there's few excuses for the 25$ price tag. That's as much as the last DLC which added a new faction, new mechanics, new intrigue, and the slew of new units and spells that follow suit.
@@jhjn1498 when you check the blog, it say the changeling is played to dominate the other factions, not destroying them, a bit like slaanesh does, so you act like a empire faction for example to destroy the empire as a empire faction, not a tzeentch one
... 25€?! I was fine with the price of champion of chaos but now idk. Everything looks great and Im sure a lot of people will buy it but for me nah. Maybe nurgel dlc ( ❤ )
It looks awesome! Loving the new unit designs, but why did you guys have to do that price hike? This DLC is like, 15-20 dollar range, 25 is a little bit outrageous
@@stephenjenkins7971 It IS 3x of what it used to be in TWW2. But tbh taking into account that WHOLE GAME, containing dozens of factions, lords, hundreds of units, full map, sound, scenarios and... you name it, is 60, this "pack" shouldn't be worth more than a dollar. A self-respecting team would put these out for free
I was really pleasantly suprised. I didnt think i would really like to buy this one because i really dont care about human factions, i only like Kislev because Im Slavic but i really dont like their playstyle currently. My favorite faction Is Chaos but funnily enough Tzeentch Is my least favorite. After this trailer i really dont know who to play first. It looks insanely good! CA knows how to do a trailer.
Like usual your trailers are top notch The units look amazing and I'm honestly surprised to see the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts. Phenominal work Some changes I'm not the most a fan of but I understand. I look forward to hearing more. The characters are a great fit. Surprised Tzeentch gets 2 LH with this The mechanics look great so far But I must say. The price hike is noticeable, I know the community management team, developers and writers have little to no say on that but I was wondering if there was any explination to this? Could we get some kind of breakdown with how the price came around? Again, I adore the content but it's a noticeable bit of contention Thanks =)
I appreciate to see for once someone have some measure in it's behavior and thoughts, not just welling aggressively about prices. I also think explanations would be good. I'm not especialy against that price, but i hope it'll be justified by next videos.
@@Klierowski You never developped games, you have no idea how much it cost. Do you really think it's easy to make games ? I'm not saying that price is fair, we'll have to wait to see that, but you know nothing.
@Alvaro-4071 going silent is the worst. It feels like sticking your head in the sand. I'm not saying an explanation will solve things. But for those on the fence or like me who want communication it will help. It is horrible is the legitimate quality of the pack is over shadowed (that said if there's no generic Hag Lord this is an incredibly poor choice)
Im a little upset we didn’t see the chicken house, I hope that will still be a thing and hasn’t been retconned too, same goes for the lore of hags, with the two things making Kislevs side iconic, I’d be very remiss to hear that both are going to be a no show, especially since 1 of the new Kislev units aren’t exclusive to the faction but rather the lore of beasts wielders, that being said it feels as if Kislev’s side of this dlc kinda just got glossed over, with more emphasis put on the conflict between Cathay and Tzeetch with the later getting the bulk of the content what with the iconic units and not 1 but 2 additional free LC.
Warhammer lore takes inspiration from real-life history and myths, but never copies them completely. In a recent video, Andy Law, one of the writers for the Kislev lore, said that they purposely didn't copy the Baba Yaga tale with the chicken house, they only took some inspiration. This is how all Warhammer lore is done.
@@LordEsel88 I get that and that’s why the chicken house is the least of the problem, the fact they aren’t incorporating the lore of hags is just ridiculous, and imo only would’ve added to justification for the price of the dlc, it makes no sense to not incorporate it, as for the incarnate of beasts chosen over the wicker man is just personal preference, but you gotta admit it would’ve made a much better addition.
Man, here in my country the DLC is like 100 freaking bucks WTF CA !? I understand Chaos Dwarf in the other one for the price. New race and all. But DAAM this price for just three factions and some units really ?!
$25 is absolutely ridiculous for what is offered. Lord Packs in game 2 offered MORE for less money. The Twisted and the Twilight and the FLC that released alongside it offered the same amount of Legendary lords and Legendary heroes, more generic lords and heroes, and only 3 less units for $10. This price increase is absurd and unjustified. I will not be purchasing this on launch, despite my devotion to the franchise.
Exactly my thouhts . I am quite dissapointed that they've let their greed take over . At least there is baldurs gate 3 ... the only game probably to be COMPLETE with no bullshit that got released in the past few years.
Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away, there was this little rock where a war between a major oil producer and a major wheat producer made certain commodities very expensive. As for the resource requirements to feed all this new population and make all these fancy explosions and dragon breaths, I guess $25 is the right landing zone.
Out of all the outstanding things in this trailer, my favorite thing might be the way the fire flies from the Changeling's hand to the shrine at the beginning. It's just so quick, but smooth and graceful.
I like the trailer and i will like the dlc but i want to point out to CA that you promised last dls that the price was that because it was a full race that required lots of work and i accept that, now u just added units and lords and the price is the same ,thats 1 promise u didnt keep and it seems greedy epsecially for some countrys that they cant easily give the 23 euros!
Kislev needed more Ungol elements Edit: Honestly, imo Gospodar/Ungol conflict would have been better than Katarin/Kostaltyn conflict I wonder if Ostankya will get Hag Witch heroes instead of Ice Witch heroes, and if Hags will get their own magic or just get some of the Winds assigned
Some interesting units but the price tag is just goofy for what this DLC is offering. It's the same price as the Chaos Dwarf DLC which brought an entire new race and roster into the game. Probably the first DLC I will not be getting at least until next summer sale, not an issue of money for me but just the principle of charging more for less.
Ok this is a little off topic but when the rangers are telling mother ostankya about the ice witch burning the shrine she look sad for a moment and that one second of animation was really good at portraying emotion on a 3d character
Furthermore I feel like the wicker man single entity monster would’ve been a much more appropriate addition over the incarnate of beasts given it’s connection to hedge wizards in the empire that are essentially just male hags.
the changeling has the possibility of making diplomacy ultra important by playing on the fact that he takes on the appearance of the other legendary lords I hope it will be successful at this level otherwise there is not too much interest in have it added
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Its not about being poor you rich snob that probably uses mommys credit card. No its about accepting less content for more money. we as a community shouldnt accept that.
@@RealEvilLordExdeath This DLC is 66% more expensive compared with previous ones of similar content, all things accounted for. The problem is not the cost of this individual DLC, but that this could be a new trend of steep price-increases going forward.
Hey creative assembly, Get bent. This is not directed at any communications managers, or “individual team members” except your CEO, your executives, your pricing people, and Rob Bartholomew. That’s it.
Can you fix the major bugs in Thrones of Britannia first? Randomly changing estate bonuses for generals/governors + army defending a village spawning outside of the village and the attackers spawning in the village on the battle map.
The issue with having 3 lords in a pack locked behind 25 dollars is that I’m only interested in one of these factions. I want to play Tzeentch, but I don’t want to waste money on cathay and kislev, which I never play. 3 lords for 25 bucks is just too expensive.
Agreed, Im not remotely interested in getting more chaos stuff, I just want cathay and kislev, but Cathay barely gets anything because its crammed in there with 2 other factions. Also the price is stupidly high.
IS THIS AEKOLD HELBRASS?!! OMG. I've been waiting for him for so long. If it's him, it's mega cool. And also changeling and blue scribes of Tzeentch. And of course Yuan Bo and the new Kislev faction. Extremely cool trailer.
'Though Tzeentch loves to take credit for the Changeling's schemes, only a handful of the Daemon's adventures are carried out at his divine patron's directions. The Great Schemer is content to let the Changeling roam wild through eternity, causing havoc where he may.' Seems like my kind of Daemon.
CORPORATE GREED!!! Nearly half the price for the full game. 3 legendary lords and some game mechanics. Will wait in a year when steam sales are between 50-70% off.
Hmmm... Love how this DLC is releasing at a higher price than many full games on Steam. Same price for a few new units and lords as an entire race pack was with the Forge of the Chaos Dwarves...
I love all the looks of the units but holy hell 25 smackeroos? Must be absolutely amazing and unique lord mechanics for every one for it to be worth it.
I love the trailer and the dlc, but $25 is too much money for a lord pack. Edit: Seeing the lack of generic lord and hero characters on top of the lore of hags not being added. I cannot say that this dlc is a worthy addition, even at $15
25€ for a few Units and 3 LL? Are you for real CA? That is the same price as the Chaos Dwarves DLC and that one was already overpriced. Those reviews are gonna be spicy on steam if the Chaos Dwarves are already mixed.
I will say i love that tentacle looking tzeentch thing and those kislev bears, not to mention the tze beastmen. I just wish all those other characters were lords.
@greenunbidden9867 around the time youn bo shape shifts into his dragon form you'll see them get blasted by his breath attack also when the huge tentacle monster appears i think theirs some in front of it. Also check the blog post the talk about the tzaangors in it
Love that when I search trailers, the first 2 that appear exactly 5 hours ago are this trailer and the trailer ''The Changeling'' on Apple TV. Seems the Lord of change has something to do with that one.
Dev team doing great. Price hike was definitely too much. I would expect 15$ at most, not 25$. Unless theres a LOT we havent been told about. DLC used to be smaller Lord dlc 10$ with 20$ for new factions. They upped the faction another 5$. Why the heck did the Lord dlc jump 150% from 10$ to 25$
You do realize the entire WORLD has experienced a price hike in the past three years? Minimum wage in my home town went from $10 an hour to $15. Houses doubled in value, the dollar is literally worth less than ever. This in my opinion is less of a price hike and more of a keeping-up-with-inflation situation.
@@Impossible-Kid While I do agree that raising minimum wage is usually a problem solver that causes more problems than it solves..... CA did this for money. That's it. It's the same reason Pharaoh is a Troy reskin, it's the same reason they keep adding old content and pretending it's new, it's the same reason they've abandoned their old playerbase and style of game in favor of arcade gameplay and DLCs galore. Now you may like the game, you may not. Personally I enjoy it. But make no mistake... this is NOT the CA of the past. They do what they do for money.
@@spiffygonzales5160 I don’t know anything about CA, TW3 has been my first experience with any of their games. But that tends to be the way with old gaming studios, they get bigger and more corporate, suddenly shareholder opinions matter more than the games themselves. BUT- It is still a fact that producing games has never been more expensive than it is today. Same goes for movies, shows and every other form of media out there. That’s why quality across the board has taken a nose dive, while prices are higher than ever. So while this could be a direct result of corporate greed, it is not NEARLY as crass as some of the bullshit other developers are peddling. Diablo 4 is selling cosmetic TRANSMOGS for as much as this DLC pack. That is obviously nothing but greed. This on the other hand, at least I can buy that the devs had to put time and effort into.
While DLC seems interesting (especially new Kislev faction), I think price seems to be way too high. Should not be same as Chaos Dwarfs DLC, but same as Champions of Chaos DLC... I think I'll wait till price is more reasonable. Champions of Chaos have four new factions, this only three new factions to play as. And this is much more expensive...
I wonder? Are those Marauders of Tzeench or a new type of unit? I think it'd be really cool if Marauders from Cathay where more Cathayan and Marauders from Norsca where more Norscan But a new unit is also cool.
What you're hoping for is the Kurgan and Hung to be introduced. Technically their factions already exist, but the game categorizes them all into one group of "Norsca" and really it should just be "Northmen". The Kurgans are the Kul, Dolgan, Khazags, and obviously many others including the rogue army that spawns. The Hung are the guys that stretch from the Great Eastern Steppes across the Ironfrost Glacier and all the way through Naggaroth's northern border. Technically the dark elves should see the "asian" marauders as well since the Mung, Aghol, etc. tribes are Hung and not Norscans/Kurgans. Then there's the Tong which are the guys west of Archaon. They're technically a fourth northman faction mostly comprised of the humans that live closest to the northern polar gates. Tong are often mutated and they're so frightening that they even scare Norscans and Kurgans and make them look like Empire men in comparison.
Whoever is in charge of the current CA business model needs to be fired unless as a company they're cool with not maintaining a long term customer base.
Very nice. While Khorne is my go-to favorite (Hoping for Arbaal, make it happen CA) I do love any content that drops. Surprised that the Changeling was the Tzeentch Lord tbh, but it all looks fantastic.
@@marcusc9931I more hope Aekold will be lord, and changeling and blue scribers will be legendary heroes. Because Aekold more powerful as a Lord, and changeling will be good also in Kairos armies.
@@sauronplugawy3866 bro chill out. When I created this comment, I haven't even finished watching the video. In the end I already saw. And someone likes to spoil the mood from the video even more than the price of dlc.
With BG3 release I would love for Larian to tackle Warhammer Fantasy, or maybe Owlcat after their Rogue Trader. Im up for Warhammer RPG coming into CRPG world.
CDprojectRED would make an amazing warhammer rpg. By the way, there's already a warhammer roleplaying game on the way called "Warhammer Rogue Trader", by Owlcat Studios. Check it out.
Oh man, I knew we were going to get Mother Ostankya, but I wasnt expecting it to happen so soon! Her roster and units look amazing! And The Changeling, too! He looks awesome! I cannot wait for this! Thank you CA!
The dlc looks great but the price tag is WAAAYYY too high compared to what you get. Shadows of Change full price is the same price as Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs but for waaaaayyyy less content. I could justify it for a race pack where you get so many brand new units and LL's plus faction and racial abilities. But for a lord pack where you only get 3 new lords + a legendary hero and only 2-3 new units for each race... not nearly the same amount of content, especially since it's a 150% price increase from previous lord packs which brought a ton of new units with them and usually a new hero/generic lord for each faction. So sadly this is the first dlc i'll be waiting for a steam sale for since Call of the Beastmen. I'll probably just pick up Baldur's Gate 3 instead and get more value for my money in the meantime haha.
I agree with everyone else: hella dope trailer, awesome cinematics/music, cool characters, horrible price. I usually pre-order CA and Paradox Interactive stuff, but I'll probably wait until Christmas for this. Lower it $5 (plus the 10%/$2 off) and I'm game.
I love that the entire premise of this DLC’s story is just that the Changeling likes to do a bit of trolling.
Just a little bit of cheeky deception
Just a tad bit of tomfoolery.
Just a pinch of kerfuffling
Just a tiny bit of fiddle playing.
It's just a prank, bro.
Love the trailer, really a stellar job. Not buying the dlc until a deep deep sale though.
20$ is the best sale we are gonna get I guess lol
Theyre retroactively adding a lot of stuff back in
I didn't know how badly i needed a wendigo army until this moment
Actually it’s Leshi, skinwalker is Navajo and Wendigo is Iroquois (I don’t know how to spell their proper name)
I frankly didn't really expect that Kislev would have access to creatures that are essentially beastmen like this, though obvious it appears to be more relating to the hag witches. A bit of Whiplash honestly. Was kinda hoping we help fill out the Bear cult with kostaltyn and lay out the supposed civil war brewing between the Orthodoxy and the Kislivite government. However this is still intriguing and hopefully they show us more.
@@matthewkelly1263 you are right!
@@robosoldier11 The "Leshi"-style monster is a Greater Elemental of the Wind of Beasts, it doesn't really have anything to do with beastmen lorewise, although the visuals can trick you.
Not a wendigo, its a incarnate elemental.
Awesome trailer!!
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The first one is spooky, dark slavic mythology i love it
Agreed, as a Slav myself i really wanted our mythology represented in WH since game 1!
it's the witcher in warhammer lol
@@deathstroke_97 its baba yaga
@@deathstroke_97 *Let the wild hunt begin*
@@chaotix7275 💪
The pricetag is crazy for the scope of this dlc, 25 bucka for sprinkles without a cupcake
you do get 3 factions instead of 2 tbf
@@kudowazzupman1878 same amount of units spread over more factions isn't really a plus imo. We need 11 new units for Cathay, not 11 new units spread over 3 factions. WH3 factions rosters are mighty thin.
@@StoicGoat.
No offense, but do kindly shut up.
People like you are why I want to facepalm every time people complain when CA announces a new DLC. And that's mainly because you guys never look at the stuff beyond the surface, yet complain the loudest, as if there's nothing in the DLC.
And I do mostly agree with your one good point, that it's because they units are spread out that it seems small, even though it isn't.
@@Nadz203
What is with so many people and being complete idiots?
It's like no one is capable of thinking to ask any question and just hate on CA instead.
@@chubbyninja89what is with people and being complete kiss-asses? It is like no one is capable of critizing CA and just pucker up for anything they make
The new units look insane love it !!! This darker mood for kislev is gonna be so cool, and jade beasts and tzeentch monsters are gorgeous as well !
25$ for 12 units with at least one of them being a variant👍
@@Haarsgard cheap price, nice
@@tuff9486 definitely
@@Haarsgard$25 for you, $15 for me. Could’ve been $30.
Keep crying.
@@VLarraechea why would this exprbitant price be a good thing? Like, you are the one spending your money. If we just lay down and take it, like your mum, this will just keep getting more ridiculous
I really adore the atmosphere and music in this trailer. All three lords and their factions look really cool so i can't wait to see what else they have
music got a squid game vibe to me
Yuuma 🔥
Just make the DLC price 15 dollars and we all will be happy
or even 18 dollars is fine , 20 is expensive but acceptable (infation) but 25 is fair too much.
@@yayomh Buhu im Poor :::::(
Maybe dont Donate 100$ for a guy u watch playing a game, or waste them on Skins or other crap in a free to play Phone game and even u can afford it
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Wow... Troll alert. Maybe money doesnt have any value to you. because you use mommys credit card. Also this is not about being poor. This is about accepting less content for more money. Also apperently you know that person plays expensive phone games? how would you come across that info?
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Can't stress how pathetic you sound. Not only is your rhetoric based on soundless assumption that this guy is poor or does not know to use this money, but you are not even trying to justify why the price is correct in your opinion. I know logic is probably not your thing, but if you are a total war veteran you will at least know that this DLC, which adds very little content (No new race, 3 new factions/LL, a few units, a generic Lord for Cathay, a generic hero for Kislev), is on the smaller side of DLCs. You used to get a new race for 150% less money. If you are ok with this, good for you, but don't go patronizing people with your tiny mind.
all according to plan
For a price same as forge of the chaos dwarfs there should be equal amount of new units and a new lore of magic. I always love new content but there should be more content in the DLC or lower the price because now it looks ridiculous
I'll bet you the DLC will stay pricey as a not-so-subtle way of hedging their bets with Pharaoh Total War. Total Warhammer has been paying handsomely for some time, while Pharaoh is another gamble for them at this point. With Troy and Britannia not doing so well in the past, I'll bet they are nervous. And especially with Three Kingdoms failing to keep its feet under itself.
I thougt maybe 15€ but 25€ is too expensive for me. Nurgel maybe but this one nah (maybe sale) price increase is okay but 2(+)x the price of old lord packs for a few more units. MY OPINION but hopefully people still buy dlcs and have fun.
They cant throw new lores of magic, the setting can provide just so much and once they introduce all, there will be no more.
@StanShane just cream it and if you like it you buy it if not you don't
@@ggwp6075 i've been buying all the DLCs so far but if it's okay for you that big corporation sells less for more and I shouldn't criticise them and just cream it then it's sad
At this price point I'm going to have to wait for a complete edition to pick up the rest of the DLCs. They've just priced me out. Fortunately there is no shortage of other games right now that are actually worth the money. I can wait for a 75% off sale.
Sad reality for many of us 😢
The price is just bonkers.
Chaos Dwarves were already overpriced, but this?
Thank you, no.
I tried to warn people when they paid this exorbitant price for Chaos dwarves, that if they supported it, it'd be here to stay.
And here we are. If you want the DLC that equates to maybe 5% of the base game content, you have to pay nearly 50% of the base games price.
Makes me sad, Total war was by far my most played franchise on PC. But its no longer sustainable.
I don’t know what you guys are complaining about. $15’s pretty cheap for all that this brings.
@@VLarraecheaWait it's 15 bucks? People are complaining about 5 dollars per faction overhaul?
$25.00 for 11 units, CA stop being greedy you're gonna kill your game
25$? Are you kidding me? For three legendary lords and 11 new units?
Lords are included in the factions
Cathay:
Yuan Bo
Celestial Lord
Onyx crossbows
Jet and Jade Lion
Kislev:
Mother Ostankya
Hag witch hero
Akshina Rangers
The things in the woods
Elemental incarnate beast
Tzeentch:
Changeling
Blue scribes
Aekold Helbrass
Tzaangors
Mutalex Vortex Beast
Cockatrice
Now lots of the units look like new skeletons and not reskins but it's not a full 12 units not including heroes or lords
Wah
Bet you still gon buy it
9 new units...
ok
Great trailer! Great content! But the price is way too high for a Lord Pack. Do not rely on the inflation as an excuse, CA.
When Cathay was first introduced (super civilised and dragony) I was deeply sceptical, it seemed to be treading too hard on elvish toes (my toes), but I think CA have done a fantastic job. I might still have some small misgivings about how Cathay sits in the lore, but I think that to a large extent they seem to fit remarkably well, it feels like Warhammer, I can believe it is Warhammer, and that's the important thing. This trailer shows things which seem to fit into that world (perhaps the best post-Tolkien fantasy world), certainly a darn sight more believable than 'The End Times'.
What the authors of 'The End Times' seemed to forget, is that a fantasy world, although it may be fanciful, must still be coherent to be compelling, just like any artistic invention (unless it is entirely postmodern - in which case it might not be art at all) it must make internal sense, we must be able to believe in it. CA seem to believe in the world of Warhammer, and I thank them for that belief.
I love em because they bring a lot of Wuxia elements into an otherwise western fantasy setting.
25$ for a race DLC was already insane. 25$ for a DLC that doesn't event contain a new race, but only some legendary lords for existing races and a few new units is absolutely nuts. The DLC policy is getting worse and worse.
Cream API and be happy
Yep, but did you notice what they give immortal empires to everyone for free? what they did a huge sale when the people like you start to stink about how expensive the game? Dude relax, they need money too. They can't just destroy there own company for someone like you, because you can't just give them freaking 25$. it is nothing in this world and economy right now. So please respect what they do. DLC is very very cool
@@TheTheater-w5eunless there's four new lords it's bullshit, CA has record profits so your pauper appeal doesn't hold up
Is it safe? Sounds risky@@godycs
@@TheTheater-w5e Do you honestly think pricing this DLC fairly would "Destroy their company"? The top brass of the company is making bank
This actually looks really cool, but I'm not sure about the price tag...
Additions look amazing, but if this is just a lord pack then there's few excuses for the 25$ price tag. That's as much as the last DLC which added a new faction, new mechanics, new intrigue, and the slew of new units and spells that follow suit.
go check the blog, there is number of information about how is played The Changeling
Mother Ostenkya and Yuan Bo will be explained the next week
New units, new factions, new gameplay mechanics, story for each.
$15 is a nice price tag for all this brings.
@@Genkiballits lord pack,what the point of your comment
@@jhjn1498 when you check the blog, it say the changeling is played to dominate the other factions, not destroying them, a bit like slaanesh does, so you act like a empire faction for example to destroy the empire as a empire faction, not a tzeentch one
... 25€?! I was fine with the price of champion of chaos but now idk. Everything looks great and Im sure a lot of people will buy it but for me nah. Maybe nurgel dlc ( ❤ )
It looks awesome! Loving the new unit designs, but why did you guys have to do that price hike? This DLC is like, 15-20 dollar range, 25 is a little bit outrageous
Looks cool idk if it's worth 25 bucks though
They gonna fix any bugs tho?
@@apk4381
More likely they will introduce new ones
It's not....
I can't believe the greed of CA lately. Completely disrespecting one of the most loyal fanbases in gaming.
@@apk4381CA fix bugs challenge (impossible)
It's not.
almost makes you forget its price is 3x what it should be
1.5x what it should be. Still horrendous.
Most will still buy it at full price just so they can write a negative review about the price.👍🏻
@@stephenjenkins7971 It IS 3x of what it used to be in TWW2. But tbh taking into account that WHOLE GAME, containing dozens of factions, lords, hundreds of units, full map, sound, scenarios and... you name it, is 60, this "pack" shouldn't be worth more than a dollar. A self-respecting team would put these out for free
@@dueldog Most brainlet idea thus far.
@@dueldog no freebies the cost should be 15
To whomever makes these trailers 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
They’re amazing!
yeah and fire the guy who did the pharaoh trailer
@@yourgod666😂
@@yourgod666was it that bad? Think it was pretty cool. Didnt knew people hate it.
Shame the game is still broken nearly 2 years later and they still got their hands out for more money
I could do nothing but just smile trough the entire trailer.
It looks incredible CA!
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This should be interesting!
Same im so happy to get this stuff its gonna be so cool to dive into another tzeech character for me personally. Love the raven god of trolling lol
I was really pleasantly suprised. I didnt think i would really like to buy this one because i really dont care about human factions, i only like Kislev because Im Slavic but i really dont like their playstyle currently. My favorite faction Is Chaos but funnily enough Tzeentch Is my least favorite. After this trailer i really dont know who to play first. It looks insanely good! CA knows how to do a trailer.
Their trailers are always top tier I’ll give them that
Besides the fact that DLC was bad, this trailer has the best synergy between music and animations *ever* done by CA. That's just majestic: 1:03
Like usual your trailers are top notch
The units look amazing and I'm honestly surprised to see the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts. Phenominal work
Some changes I'm not the most a fan of but I understand. I look forward to hearing more. The characters are a great fit. Surprised Tzeentch gets 2 LH with this
The mechanics look great so far
But I must say. The price hike is noticeable, I know the community management team, developers and writers have little to no say on that but I was wondering if there was any explination to this? Could we get some kind of breakdown with how the price came around?
Again, I adore the content but it's a noticeable bit of contention
Thanks =)
They are just testing how much we can pay for products they almost didn't put any effort or money intro it.
I appreciate to see for once someone have some measure in it's behavior and thoughts, not just welling aggressively about prices. I also think explanations would be good. I'm not especialy against that price, but i hope it'll be justified by next videos.
@@Klierowski You never developped games, you have no idea how much it cost. Do you really think it's easy to make games ? I'm not saying that price is fair, we'll have to wait to see that, but you know nothing.
@Alvaro-4071 going silent is the worst. It feels like sticking your head in the sand. I'm not saying an explanation will solve things. But for those on the fence or like me who want communication it will help. It is horrible is the legitimate quality of the pack is over shadowed (that said if there's no generic Hag Lord this is an incredibly poor choice)
@@Alvaro-4071 It seems it's easier than fixing the damn game that's for sure
we did it boys.
We finally made a $25 lord pack!
Im a little upset we didn’t see the chicken house, I hope that will still be a thing and hasn’t been retconned too, same goes for the lore of hags, with the two things making Kislevs side iconic, I’d be very remiss to hear that both are going to be a no show, especially since 1 of the new Kislev units aren’t exclusive to the faction but rather the lore of beasts wielders, that being said it feels as if Kislev’s side of this dlc kinda just got glossed over, with more emphasis put on the conflict between Cathay and Tzeetch with the later getting the bulk of the content what with the iconic units and not 1 but 2 additional free LC.
Warhammer lore takes inspiration from real-life history and myths, but never copies them completely. In a recent video, Andy Law, one of the writers for the Kislev lore, said that they purposely didn't copy the Baba Yaga tale with the chicken house, they only took some inspiration. This is how all Warhammer lore is done.
@@LordEsel88 I get that and that’s why the chicken house is the least of the problem, the fact they aren’t incorporating the lore of hags is just ridiculous, and imo only would’ve added to justification for the price of the dlc, it makes no sense to not incorporate it, as for the incarnate of beasts chosen over the wicker man is just personal preference, but you gotta admit it would’ve made a much better addition.
@@niftykillswitch99 That I agree with.
$25 for a lord pack is absolutely bonkers
Well from what you can see in the trailer they all come with new units for their factions.
@@Ashaira lord packs always come with units m8
@@DoomNeb fanboys don't ship with brains, usually.
@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf Get a real job, its $25 lol.
@@ZephrymWOWIt changes across countries it is 545 TL here which is bonkers.
Finallyyyyyy!
Thank you for this, CA! Can’t wait to see what you’ve come up for us next.
Man, here in my country the DLC is like 100 freaking bucks WTF CA !? I understand Chaos Dwarf in the other one for the price. New race and all. But DAAM this price for just three factions and some units really ?!
$25 is absolutely ridiculous for what is offered. Lord Packs in game 2 offered MORE for less money. The Twisted and the Twilight and the FLC that released alongside it offered the same amount of Legendary lords and Legendary heroes, more generic lords and heroes, and only 3 less units for $10. This price increase is absurd and unjustified. I will not be purchasing this on launch, despite my devotion to the franchise.
Exactly my thouhts . I am quite dissapointed that they've let their greed take over . At least there is baldurs gate 3 ... the only game probably to be COMPLETE with no bullshit that got released in the past few years.
Not even after launch, even with discount this is a bad joke, cant let them get away with it
@@preachthepeach4140Elden Ring?
Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away, there was this little rock where a war between a major oil producer and a major wheat producer made certain commodities very expensive. As for the resource requirements to feed all this new population and make all these fancy explosions and dragon breaths, I guess $25 is the right landing zone.
You're talking about a world before the pandemic where everything was cheaper. The world has changed, the prices too
Trailer with a higher budget than the bug fix department :D
At about 1:21 the chaos spawn on the left side of the screen stops moving just before the cut to the cockatrice
Out of all the outstanding things in this trailer, my favorite thing might be the way the fire flies from the Changeling's hand to the shrine at the beginning. It's just so quick, but smooth and graceful.
And yet again, the soundtrack team does an OUTSTANDING job.
Yeah why they didn't mention the artist in description... they published the TOD one but not this one such a bummer
I like the trailer and i will like the dlc but i want to point out to CA that you promised last dls that the price was that because it was a full race that required lots of work and i accept that, now u just added units and lords and the price is the same ,thats 1 promise u didnt keep and it seems greedy epsecially for some countrys that they cant easily give the 23 euros!
The world is facing a price hike. Get over it
@@paulshaw3907not one of 66% i doubt the devs get a 66% raise 🤷♂️
Kislev needed more Ungol elements
Edit: Honestly, imo Gospodar/Ungol conflict would have been better than Katarin/Kostaltyn conflict
I wonder if Ostankya will get Hag Witch heroes instead of Ice Witch heroes, and if Hags will get their own magic or just get some of the Winds assigned
The lack of horse made me think that the "savages" in this trailer were Roppsmen rather than Ungol
@@solwen well, Roppsmen are relatively few and Hag Witches is generally Ungol thing anyway, though maybe CA will add Roppsmen
the Ungol Gospodar conflcit is more or less being retconned
DLC trailer: 👍🏻
DlC price: 💀
yes wait until denuvo is cracked and we get the game for free
@@redviking2086 Or buy the base game and unlock everything with creamapi lol
@@redviking2086better to wait for at least 50% discount than buy a little dlc for half of a price of baldurs gate 3
They never miss with their trailers but MAN ain’t no way we are accepting the
current price 💀
@@fraxtorgamingspeak for yourself
Очень радует что разработчики переведут это длс на русский, и обещали перевести длс про дворфов хаоса тоже!
I NEED THE SOUNDTRACK OF THIS TRAILER
If anyone knows the artist would be even better because i think this one is purchased via a label
This is a certified Tzeentch classic
Damn spawn, where’d ya find this?
JUST AS PLANNED
Some interesting units but the price tag is just goofy for what this DLC is offering. It's the same price as the Chaos Dwarf DLC which brought an entire new race and roster into the game. Probably the first DLC I will not be getting at least until next summer sale, not an issue of money for me but just the principle of charging more for less.
$25 add-on, don't, I have the cream api unlocker.
0:43 the rumbling comes to kislev
As cool as it is, that price increase ain't cool bro, like dear LORD.
200% increase for 33% more content.
Ok this is a little off topic but when the rangers are telling mother ostankya about the ice witch burning the shrine she look sad for a moment and that one second of animation was really good at portraying emotion on a 3d character
Mutalith and Firewyrm!
And Kislev has freaking Leshens now?!
Edit: It was a Cockcatrice, not Firewyrm 😅
Furthermore I feel like the wicker man single entity monster would’ve been a much more appropriate addition over the incarnate of beasts given it’s connection to hedge wizards in the empire that are essentially just male hags.
CA really needs to use the team behind these trailers and make animated movies using in-engine assets
1:07 oh my God ! That crow has a hand ._.
25$ is insane I won't vs getting it till its minimum 50% off
Seriously SC2 only charged $5 for new coop factions
the changeling has the possibility of making diplomacy ultra important by playing on the fact that he takes on the appearance of the other legendary lords I hope it will be successful at this level otherwise there is not too much interest in have it added
the Changeling forms will just give him the lord's stats, I don't think the shape will change the way diplomacy works
25€ for DLC is insane
not if its worth it.
Just dont buy it if ur poor
@@RealEvilLordExdeath With this money I can buy your mom twice dude. It's definitely overprice for DLC
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Its not about being poor you rich snob that probably uses mommys credit card. No its about accepting less content for more money. we as a community shouldnt accept that.
@@Rated_a the wax u cry about the price, its the whole money u get in a year
@@RealEvilLordExdeath This DLC is 66% more expensive compared with previous ones of similar content, all things accounted for. The problem is not the cost of this individual DLC, but that this could be a new trend of steep price-increases going forward.
Hey creative assembly,
Get bent.
This is not directed at any communications managers, or “individual team members” except your CEO, your executives, your pricing people, and Rob Bartholomew.
That’s it.
Someone at the top needs to be fired.
25 EUR for the this DLC is bad. The last DLC was a new race (kinda) but this are just legendary lords.... These spikes in prices are not OK!
Can you fix the major bugs in Thrones of Britannia first? Randomly changing estate bonuses for generals/governors + army defending a village spawning outside of the village and the attackers spawning in the village on the battle map.
Looks incredibly awesome. I want to be hyped for this, unfortunately its a really high price for the bare minimum.
All the people excited till they see the price tag 💀
dumb and dumber buy all
It could be priced same as the Chaos Dwarfs and I'll gladly buy it. And if it turns out it's more expensive, oh well. Still gonna buy it.
What, you can’t pay $15 for such a cool DLC?
You poor or something?
@@VLarraechea25 dollars not 15.
@@Foodisgoodhe's been real quiet 💀
The issue with having 3 lords in a pack locked behind 25 dollars is that I’m only interested in one of these factions. I want to play Tzeentch, but I don’t want to waste money on cathay and kislev, which I never play. 3 lords for 25 bucks is just too expensive.
100 % agree . And i own all of the dlcs . I wont this one i guess just because they got too greedy .
Agreed, Im not remotely interested in getting more chaos stuff, I just want cathay and kislev, but Cathay barely gets anything because its crammed in there with 2 other factions. Also the price is stupidly high.
IS THIS AEKOLD HELBRASS?!! OMG. I've been waiting for him for so long. If it's him, it's mega cool. And also changeling and blue scribes of Tzeentch. And of course Yuan Bo and the new Kislev faction. Extremely cool trailer.
I swear it looks a lot like him😁
Yeah it's him for sure or at least looks exactly as him!
There is no mistaking him, what other chaos worshiper wears a spiky elf helmet, uses a two handed broadsword, and has a armored skirt.
He might be the flc lord or hero coming with the dlc
It is him yes. FLC.
'Though Tzeentch loves to take credit for the Changeling's schemes, only a handful of the Daemon's adventures are carried out at his divine patron's directions. The Great Schemer is content to let the Changeling roam wild through eternity, causing havoc where he may.'
Seems like my kind of Daemon.
CORPORATE GREED!!!
Nearly half the price for the full game. 3 legendary lords and some game mechanics.
Will wait in a year when steam sales are between 50-70% off.
the amount of crows in this trailer is perfect
1:37 *BLOWS UP TERRACOTTA SENTINEL WITH MIND*
been waiting for the vortex beast for a while now, glad to see it finally in the game!
Hmmm... Love how this DLC is releasing at a higher price than many full games on Steam. Same price for a few new units and lords as an entire race pack was with the Forge of the Chaos Dwarves...
I love all the looks of the units but holy hell 25 smackeroos? Must be absolutely amazing and unique lord mechanics for every one for it to be worth it.
25$ + you get a lot more bugs for free !
Not listed but still shown in the trailer: Aekold Helbrass
He was announced weeks ago as the free patch legendary hero. The paid dlc legendary hero is the Blue Scribes.
I love the trailer and the dlc, but $25 is too much money for a lord pack.
Edit: Seeing the lack of generic lord and hero characters on top of the lore of hags not being added. I cannot say that this dlc is a worthy addition, even at $15
Yes, it has a value of $15.
I'd like to see a Tzangor have a beak. So they would at least stand out for 25 bucks
25€ for a few Units and 3 LL? Are you for real CA? That is the same price as the Chaos Dwarves DLC and that one was already overpriced. Those reviews are gonna be spicy on steam if the Chaos Dwarves are already mixed.
gotta love the hippie peace sign on the paper on his right side at 2:01 where the staff intersects with his body
I will say i love that tentacle looking tzeentch thing and those kislev bears, not to mention the tze beastmen.
I just wish all those other characters were lords.
That's a Mutalith Vortex Beast, Khorne has something similar but way more muscle and horned.
Not sure if you'd care but tzaangors are present also meaning we may be getting mono god based beastmen this year
Price is also considerably higher but yeah
@devinespinoza9124 what part of the trailer?
@greenunbidden9867 around the time youn bo shape shifts into his dragon form you'll see them get blasted by his breath attack also when the huge tentacle monster appears i think theirs some in front of it. Also check the blog post the talk about the tzaangors in it
Love that when I search trailers, the first 2 that appear exactly 5 hours ago are this trailer and the trailer ''The Changeling'' on Apple TV.
Seems the Lord of change has something to do with that one.
TZEENTCH:
LL: THE CHANGELING
LH: THE BLUE SCRIBES (that carpet flying unit with scrolls)
UNITS: TZAANGORS, COCKATRICE(flying bird unit), MUTALITH VORTEX BEAST (tentacle monster)
KISLEV:
LL: MOTHER OSTANKYA (w/ BALEWOLF CHARIOT)
LH: HAG WITCH
UNITS: ELK SLED, AKSHINA (those sneaky kislevites atop the trees), BALEWOLVES, INCARNATE ELEMENTAL OF BEASTS (wendigo like creature)
CATHAY:
LL: YUAN BO THE JADE DRAGON
LH: DRAGON BLOODED SHUGENGAN LORD GENERAL
UNITS: JADE LION, JET LION, ONYX CROWMEN, ZHANGU WARDRUM
I also believe Aekold Helbrass features in the video
Dev team doing great. Price hike was definitely too much. I would expect 15$ at most, not 25$. Unless theres a LOT we havent been told about. DLC used to be smaller Lord dlc 10$ with 20$ for new factions. They upped the faction another 5$. Why the heck did the Lord dlc jump 150% from 10$ to 25$
You do realize the entire WORLD has experienced a price hike in the past three years? Minimum wage in my home town went from $10 an hour to $15. Houses doubled in value, the dollar is literally worth less than ever. This in my opinion is less of a price hike and more of a keeping-up-with-inflation situation.
@@Impossible-Kid
While I do agree that raising minimum wage is usually a problem solver that causes more problems than it solves.....
CA did this for money. That's it. It's the same reason Pharaoh is a Troy reskin, it's the same reason they keep adding old content and pretending it's new, it's the same reason they've abandoned their old playerbase and style of game in favor of arcade gameplay and DLCs galore.
Now you may like the game, you may not. Personally I enjoy it. But make no mistake... this is NOT the CA of the past. They do what they do for money.
@@spiffygonzales5160 I don’t know anything about CA, TW3 has been my first experience with any of their games. But that tends to be the way with old gaming studios, they get bigger and more corporate, suddenly shareholder opinions matter more than the games themselves.
BUT- It is still a fact that producing games has never been more expensive than it is today. Same goes for movies, shows and every other form of media out there. That’s why quality across the board has taken a nose dive, while prices are higher than ever. So while this could be a direct result of corporate greed, it is not NEARLY as crass as some of the bullshit other developers are peddling.
Diablo 4 is selling cosmetic TRANSMOGS for as much as this DLC pack. That is obviously nothing but greed. This on the other hand, at least I can buy that the devs had to put time and effort into.
@@Impossible-Kid Even with inflation. 150% price hike? I'm not buying it. (Badum ts)
I am ok with $20
Music department killing it as always
While DLC seems interesting (especially new Kislev faction), I think price seems to be way too high. Should not be same as Chaos Dwarfs DLC, but same as Champions of Chaos DLC... I think I'll wait till price is more reasonable. Champions of Chaos have four new factions, this only three new factions to play as. And this is much more expensive...
I wonder?
Are those Marauders of Tzeench or a new type of unit?
I think it'd be really cool if Marauders from Cathay where more Cathayan
and Marauders from Norsca where more Norscan
But a new unit is also cool.
Maybe theyre Tzaangors
you didnt see the feathers on their head?
What you're hoping for is the Kurgan and Hung to be introduced. Technically their factions already exist, but the game categorizes them all into one group of "Norsca" and really it should just be "Northmen". The Kurgans are the Kul, Dolgan, Khazags, and obviously many others including the rogue army that spawns. The Hung are the guys that stretch from the Great Eastern Steppes across the Ironfrost Glacier and all the way through Naggaroth's northern border. Technically the dark elves should see the "asian" marauders as well since the Mung, Aghol, etc. tribes are Hung and not Norscans/Kurgans. Then there's the Tong which are the guys west of Archaon. They're technically a fourth northman faction mostly comprised of the humans that live closest to the northern polar gates. Tong are often mutated and they're so frightening that they even scare Norscans and Kurgans and make them look like Empire men in comparison.
@@RuzzDelestino they're tzaangors
@@CrimsonUltrafox would love to see a mongol inspired chaos faction with tons of horse archers
1:16 rare asian Karl Franz
The tricksater is so dangerous that he materialized in our world as CA manager and raised DLC price.
Whoever is in charge of the current CA business model needs to be fired unless as a company they're cool with not maintaining a long term customer base.
Very nice. While Khorne is my go-to favorite (Hoping for Arbaal, make it happen CA) I do love any content that drops. Surprised that the Changeling was the Tzeentch Lord tbh, but it all looks fantastic.
looks like they get two heroes already, Aekold and Blue Scribes
@@marcusc9931I more hope Aekold will be lord, and changeling and blue scribers will be legendary heroes. Because Aekold more powerful as a Lord, and changeling will be good also in Kairos armies.
@@leman7648 This video litteraly has Changeling as a LL and Aekold and Blue Scribes as LH tho? Someone didn't pay attention.
@@sauronplugawy3866 bro chill out. When I created this comment, I haven't even finished watching the video. In the end I already saw. And someone likes to spoil the mood from the video even more than the price of dlc.
Well seems like you're about to get your wish! GET READY FOR ARBAAL!!
You guys need to make an RPG in this universe like the witcher/skyrim/eldenring etc. It would sell like hotcakes.
Y'know, they did that, once. It was pen and paper but it also had a drinking stat so it looked pretty good.
With BG3 release I would love for Larian to tackle Warhammer Fantasy, or maybe Owlcat after their Rogue Trader. Im up for Warhammer RPG coming into CRPG world.
CDprojectRED would make an amazing warhammer rpg. By the way, there's already a warhammer roleplaying game on the way called "Warhammer Rogue Trader", by Owlcat Studios. Check it out.
If Larian handled it, maybe we could get a love scene between a Kislevite and his bear mount.
@@buckweevil We could get a really awesome RPG, but not without warhammer wacky stuff, which it has a lot.
Oh man, I knew we were going to get Mother Ostankya, but I wasnt expecting it to happen so soon! Her roster and units look amazing!
And The Changeling, too! He looks awesome! I cannot wait for this! Thank you CA!
cool cinematic, still not paying $25 for 12 units (some of which are variants anyway)
wow its actually 11 units, what a rip off
Guys, did you notice at 1:47 how Juan Bo leaves green trails on the ground in the shape of the Skaven triangle symbol? COINCIDENCE, i think NOT!?!
3 commands and 12 units for 25 euros are quite expensive. Not even a new faction......
so is it like changeling going eastward? kislev -> ungol , then cathay
Thanks CA, can't wait for another 25$ DLC with even less content! Truly amazing!
Looks cool, but I'm not paying half of Baldur's Gate 3's price for a lord pack
The dlc looks great but the price tag is WAAAYYY too high compared to what you get. Shadows of Change full price is the same price as Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs but for waaaaayyyy less content.
I could justify it for a race pack where you get so many brand new units and LL's plus faction and racial abilities. But for a lord pack where you only get 3 new lords + a legendary hero and only 2-3 new units for each race... not nearly the same amount of content, especially since it's a 150% price increase from previous lord packs which brought a ton of new units with them and usually a new hero/generic lord for each faction.
So sadly this is the first dlc i'll be waiting for a steam sale for since Call of the Beastmen. I'll probably just pick up Baldur's Gate 3 instead and get more value for my money in the meantime haha.
1:58 CA be like we do little bit of trolling xD
Honeslty say what you wont about the dlc, but this trailor is just straight epic
The Trailers become better and better with each DLC that comes out..
This one is the Best so far in my Opinion.
I have a feeling that from now on any DLC release by CA will be 25$ or higher now. Company now just slowly turning into EA
This looks great, always love more Grand Cathay content!
Same here! Love me some Cathay 🥰
$25.00 for this is wild
I agree with everyone else: hella dope trailer, awesome cinematics/music, cool characters, horrible price. I usually pre-order CA and Paradox Interactive stuff, but I'll probably wait until Christmas for this. Lower it $5 (plus the 10%/$2 off) and I'm game.
awesome, but you need to calm down with the new prices for the DLCs. it's starting to cost like a full game.
The way the little Onyx Crowmen dawdle and hop around is so cute~