The fact that there is only one generic hero really hurts. I kinda wished that they made a Croman be a hero. Like, a Celestial Crowman, flying melee hero. Would be real novel.
Maybe they add those when they add those thogever with monkey man. And after that they should add long awaited nippon and araby and kingdoms of Ind and the serpent kingdom.
I will concede one thing: The Jade & Jet Lion's idle animations look pretty cool. Not to mention lowkey spooky due to how stiff they are, which makes sense since they're statues.
Seems a bit weird that it's counted as a monster and not a construct though, it looks like it can even route by its unit card. CA always seems confused on where constructs should land leadership wise, rogue idol used to route but was made unbreakable to match the terracotta sentinel, now this guy isnt, chaos dwarf constructs are unbreakable till 25% then they're demons? Tomb kings crumble like undead... It's hard to keep track
@@cryptosporidium01 the point is, Cathay has an unbreakable construct and now two that route. It would make more sense if the guardian lion was unbreakable too. It only has 5k hp after all.
As a American born Chinese, I think it may be offensive to the symbolism. Since they are usually depicted as Guardians. Don’t quote me though. Probably just wrong tbh.
I thinks it’s weird that the Jade and Jet lion aren’t like tomb king constructs, imagine seeing your ‘guardian lion’ made of literal rock run away in fear.
Well both empire actually exist at the same time, Grand Cathay didn’t went extinct while the Tomb Kings empire went undead so not surprising those 2 units look like Tomb King units.
@@Alex-pj8nz it’s less about them looking alike, more that they shouldn’t run away and should crumble or be unbreakable due to the fact they’re made of stone.
@@Alex-pj8nz That's exactly GamblingGator's point. The magic should be more similar in game, the lions *should* have the construct tag like the Tomb Kings stuff, but they don't currently
Ostankya has Shadow and Beast passives and flock of doom while being basically a massive damage skirmish chariot? Wow she actually sounds really strong!
This. I personally don't care about everything not Cathay related, so paying almost 30 dollars for a Legendary lord and three units is simply not justifiable lmao
@@yorickvlt1021And even if you cared about the other content, the price is still ridiculous. This is clearly CA trying to squeeze as much profit out of this as they can. It doesn't matter if sales are lower, as long as profit is higher.
@@SunlessSage It's kinda nuts that a lord pack costs nearly half the game's price + as much as a faction pack, especially when said faction had less overall content compared to previous ones. (Granted that this is the largest lord pack released so far with 12 ish units + 5 legendary lords/heroes, not counting RoR reskins) It feels like every1 is just upping prices cuz every1 else is, though their newest Legendary Lord designs + campaign mechanics are always improving :S
@@zytoxiq I don't mind a small price increase. It's indeed obvious that this pack has more content than other similar packs, and life as a whole has become more expensive. However, this price increase is too far imo. I'd rather keep my money for when Baldur's Gate 3 releases on PS5 rather than spend part of it on an overpriced DLC.
@@zytoxiq I think if it were 16€ to maybe 20€ it wouldnt be quite as bad. The big problem is how they price it the same as the chaos dwarves, which was already more expensive than previous race-packs. Even if anything here looks cool and useful, previously they added cool new mechanics and units as well (more units and characters relative to each faction, actually), but now they put 10€ to 7€ on top of what could be the reasonble price.
Kislev definitely has my favorite units here with this DLC. I absolutely love the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts! It looks like a giant Wendigo and I'm all for it!
Hey Zerkovich, I think you do a great job when rating these abilities! Just want to mention that in a lot of the cases of the regiment of renown units, they don't actually have better stats than the other units, they are just always max EXP units. While it's nice to see how strong each of the units could be once they fully level up, I think it's important to make those distinctions in the video. A quick way to compare the two is to show the regular and RoR variants together when doing unit selection in multiplayer screen and manually leveling up the regular unit in that place. Thanks again for the content 👏!
The changeling looks like he could be fun , especially with the trolling scribes and the randomness but 25$ is just hell no. It's not a matter of money for me, i can afford it, but if we keep buying these low content overpriced dlcs we will end up with 90$ games with 5 dlcs that each will cost like 40-50$ and personally i don't want that.
@@rudolfrudi5452 Only idiots don't realize this. Obviously everyone has the money, but the principle of paying more and more for less and less is disgusting, especially considering how little CA has been upkeeping the base game.
@@TaRAAASHBAGSYes, exactly. When I say I will not buy this at this price and people say I am a cheapstake, I just respond : nah I just have principles.
Same for me. I would have preferred a generic melee hero for Tzeentch rather than the cockatrice that would have filled a big gap in their roster. Muthlith vortex beast looks cool though
@@Crucial_End We shouldnt have just one or the other. For that price, generic heroes for all as well as these units (maybe a few more) SHOULD all be included. Still it adds nothing close to the ammount that the chaos dwarfs added in units and characters, while charging the same price.
i think the crowmen are gonna be amazing for defending the ballons a lot easier. also if you turn into a dragon child can you still transform into dragon for as the changeling?
the bet thing about these DLC that this point is that for kislev and cathey, most of the units are their entirely new creations, never made into miniatures by games workshop
@@MrBlueSleeves his post was that they were 'entirely new creations' they are not. they existed before. and the Elemental of Beasts was a Beastman unit before Kislev. Both even had miniatures too.
@@MrBlueSleeves Words convey meaning. His meaning was wrong, simple as. Monsterous arcanum, the Forgeworld book which introduced the Elemental of Beasts indicated it was primarily summoned by Beastmen and very few others. If i recall, it also had some rules that the Beastmen had, but it's been a long time.
Hybrid lord with the abylity to fly that also gets the abylity to deal up to 20% damage to any lord or hero in the game is a great way to get a hybrid lord that can beat up deadicated melee lords
I agree they look cool but they don't look like units from an "order" faction. These look like they should be part of the Norscan faction not a human based Kislev faction.
So, now we have Baba Yaga? Hell yeah. If they add One-eyed Likho, Zmey Gorynich and Brick stove oven as a mount, I will cry with tears of mythological joy. For Mother Ostankya they should have given her flying mortar and pestle, for a better immersion. Or even a Hut on the chicken legs - as an epic mount, or as unique monster.
Didn't expect the Cockatrice to show up. If they don't have a blurb where Greasus declares that he'll never eat one of these ever again, I'm undoing my pre-order.
11:15 that dude definitely works out to maintain those abs. Imagine you're a hunter poaching game in the forests of Kislev. You turn a corner and see this guy using a tree as a pull-up bar.
This might change in the finals release but as of right now Tzangors and the Incarnate of Beasts can actually be used by Beastmen in multiplayer, presumably they will be recruitable in campaign as well.
I was expecting Tzaangors to the equivalent of Bestigor Herd, but with shields. Instead, they gor barrier and way more armour than Gor Herd (shields) but with lower MD and HP. Gotta test what is the better frontline for beastmen now.
The aesthetics of the new Kislev units are great, it's a faction I never really gelled with but these new monsters look sick especially the incarnate. Would be good fun to get them as an allied/vassal recruit as vampire counts I think for stacking mortis fun
I loved the part where Mother Ostankya said "It's Stankin' time" and raised the price of the DLC while simultaneously deleting content. Truly one of the lords of all time.
Sortof surprised the crowmen don't have stalk. They hyped up this unit as a sneaky spy unit only to give it the ability to detect other stalking units better. I think a hero version would have been better.
@@tau-5794 the ability to detect stalking units is way less valuable as unit ability than stalk. There's no reason why they couldn't do both. My point is the unit is just meh. Basically just chaos furies or harpies with a slightly different visual appearance and a very niche ability with not very much actual utility.
Kinda missed the fact that Cathay also has a bunch of Fire Rain Rocket unit options, which means that you could use the Jade Lion to pin enemy infantry for you to smash with the rockets
@@theironqueen2386 yes true a can I believe confirm that beastmen can recruit elemental but cannot recruit cocktrice milkandcookies said it in the mother's vs beastmen vid
Yuan Bo is going to be the next one man doomstack. Human/Dragon form with Net of Amontok & Comet of Cassandora which is possibly the most powerful bombardment spell outside of Ikits nuke. The kills that guy will get will be insane
I really like all units I see here, but for that price we really should have gotten hero and lord options for all factions involved. Even then, some more units would help justify that premium price.
The Cockatrice is an amazing anti Cav for ranged units. Cav running up at you but in range of troops? Poison slow +passive slow. 1 big model, so it will take less from friendly fire.
What i like about the recent dlcs is the fact there is no clear winner, all 3 have really cool stuff compared to some of the one sided dlcs of the past.
And all of them got a dick move from CA too ! Cathay with their swap color Jet/Jade lions, Kislev are still seeking for Hags as lord choice and Tzeentch who fucked up his Tzaangors making them low tier unit. Everyone wins and loose at the same time. (Chaos Dwarfs still want Magma Cannons and Deathshriek Rocket their Skullcracker/Demon Engine choo choo)
CA/GW: Now, we need to come up with a name for these bad boys, any suggestions? Random Intern: You mean those things in the woods? CA/GW: Wow, what an outstanding name, let’s use that yeahh!
The Tzaangors and Elemental of Beasts is also available for the Beastmen roster. Which made me very happy (although the beastmen are not lacking in single entity monsters, the Elemental beast is a powerhouse who is always welcome!)
Not much fire damage in Cathay army? Lore of Yang has 3 fire spell (2 attack spell and a buff) and alchemist can have a fire buff ability available. Then there is also the fire rocket, been single entity jade lion can actually hang out in the firing zone without getting completely destroyed, good luck to any infantry been tied down by a jade lion getting ground targeted, also work really well with yang caster, as can cast jade shield on the lion to limit friendly fire damage.
Does the changeling when he changes into other lords, get mounts or anything? For example if he became Count Noctilus, can he get Roth's Moondial and the Necrofex Colossus mount? Or Franz with Deathclaw?
lez be real. a dlc is supposed to make me want to play the included factions. I've not yet played any of these three factions and was considering doing Cathay or Kislev next. Now though, because I won't be buying this dlc (to vote with my wallet regarding the price) it makes me feel that if I did play these factions I am now missing out. So instead of encouraging me to play them, the effect it has had is to make me want to hold off playing them. Until a time when the DLC can be purchased for a reasonable price. Way to do it backwards CA. Feel sorry for the devs and artists that get all their hard work sidelined by greedy suits.
i get that in theory this is a lot of content, but kislev and cathay really are the ones who really needed variety in the frontlines not just more niece pics. i love the asthetic of the kislev units esp. but they just dont fit well with the theme of the rest of the army. if this dlc had added more to just those two factions i would be much happier than an average dlc for three
Lots of great info, thanks! Love the Kislev additions in particular, aside from the Hag Witch. Really fleshes out possible playstyles for them. Mutalith looks great ingame too, better than the trailer ironically.
Something to note, the Jet Lion is Yin rather than Yang, so if you want to send your Jade Longma into the enemy backline, just send a Jet Lion alongside them and they'll maintain the yin yang bonuses.
Brawling infantry wouldn't fit Cathay's strict and regimented formation fighting. Maybe if we ever get Yin Yin the Sea Dragon she could "borrow" some VCoast-flavored units for a change in playstyle, but it's certainly not something the Cathay roster needs when they have so many holes to fill yet.
In the tabletop game, Tzaangors are hardly just Tzeentch beastmen. They're actually bird people with unique equipment. CA got lazy, they simply slapped Tzaangor horns onto regular beastmen and called it a day.
Huh the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts is labelled as Tier 4 and the Mutalith Vortex Beast is labelled as Tier 5. Are they changing the way thjey're labelling units moving forward, or do these 2 have special unlock conditions?
tiers have always been a thing its based on what level the settlements needs to be to get that unit the aspect of war need a tier 4 building to be recruitee there just making it more obvious
@@darkomihajlovski3135 Tier labelling on unit cards was introduced in Warhammer 3 and only ever went up to tier 3 (you can check out the unit browser and see that Phoenix guard for example have tier 3 on their unit card even though they're recruited at settlement tier 5). Tier 4 and 5 labelling has never existed before, but these 2 units have those labels.
Question for tzeench roster : how many of the new units can WoC use from this DLC ? I mean as baseline, for example does chaos spawn can be upgraded to mutalith ? or can you recruit the cockatrice as WoC from their soul mechanic ?
Kinda disappointed with Aekold, his whole thing was that he uncontrollably heals EVERYTHING around him, friends and foes, but since he and the rest of woc are so good in melee they got most use of it unless you screwed up. I really wanted him to have the same in this so that he could both be an incredible healer but one you need to be carefull with to not heal the enemy too much
It's nice they added a new tier to the three unit tiers, making it four. Even as an experienced player there are some races I'm not familiar with, and it helps to gauge how threatening an unknown unit is at a glance.
spirit bear is so unbelievably goofy it kind of goes full-circle into being cool
huh?
I like the part where it just completely missed its target. Cool ability. Very useful.
I fucking love its goofy swim and I unironically think it’s badaass too ahahah
I cant say I share your enthusiasm for this DLC pack
Yeah, she's such a hilariously weird old witch lady, I love it
The fact that there is only one generic hero really hurts.
I kinda wished that they made a Croman be a hero. Like, a Celestial Crowman, flying melee hero. Would be real novel.
A lot about this DLC really hurts.
Mods 👌🏿
@@TaRAAASHBAGS Word, CA' s new strat it seems.
Maybe they add those when they add those thogever with monkey man. And after that they should add long awaited nippon and araby and kingdoms of Ind and the serpent kingdom.
They're splitting everything up as much as they can, and charging as much as they think they can get away with charging for each one.
All my misgivings aside, I love the Blue Scribes being a spell slot machine. That's gonna be absolutely hilarious.
The Blue Scribes are definitely the thing I'm looking forward to the most in this DLC!
GAMBA
The animation of the spirit wolf coming out of the incarnates back is so cool. I think that’s my favorite unit of the group
He's got that dog in him, literally.
@modernaspider3076 he's a real person, his account was made 12 years ago
I will concede one thing: The Jade & Jet Lion's idle animations look pretty cool. Not to mention lowkey spooky due to how stiff they are, which makes sense since they're statues.
i genuinely believed it was an image since zerkovich count capture in video for some reason and then oh lord it moves xD
Seems a bit weird that it's counted as a monster and not a construct though, it looks like it can even route by its unit card.
CA always seems confused on where constructs should land leadership wise, rogue idol used to route but was made unbreakable to match the terracotta sentinel, now this guy isnt, chaos dwarf constructs are unbreakable till 25% then they're demons? Tomb kings crumble like undead...
It's hard to keep track
@@robertsimon-kroppmanns7287different factions make different constructs.
@@cryptosporidium01 the point is, Cathay has an unbreakable construct and now two that route. It would make more sense if the guardian lion was unbreakable too. It only has 5k hp after all.
Seems like a big miss that the general can’t ride a jade lion
Agreed. And that seems so obvious too.
would bloody hurt to ride a bouncing solid stone animal.
@@tarnyowl6068 yep, so imagine how badass it would be for the general to just stand on it unperturbed as the golem rushes forward.
As a American born Chinese, I think it may be offensive to the symbolism. Since they are usually depicted as Guardians.
Don’t quote me though. Probably just wrong tbh.
I don't think he can have a mount because where would the mount go when he transforms into à dragon ?
I thinks it’s weird that the Jade and Jet lion aren’t like tomb king constructs, imagine seeing your ‘guardian lion’ made of literal rock run away in fear.
It will amost certainly either crumble or be unbreakable.
Well both empire actually exist at the same time, Grand Cathay didn’t went extinct while the Tomb Kings empire went undead so not surprising those 2 units look like Tomb King units.
@@Alex-pj8nz it’s less about them looking alike, more that they shouldn’t run away and should crumble or be unbreakable due to the fact they’re made of stone.
@@GamblingGator Both are old empire so should not be a surprise that both have similar magic at some areas.
@@Alex-pj8nz That's exactly GamblingGator's point. The magic should be more similar in game, the lions *should* have the construct tag like the Tomb Kings stuff, but they don't currently
Ostankya has Shadow and Beast passives and flock of doom while being basically a massive damage skirmish chariot? Wow she actually sounds really strong!
The units look cool, but I would expect way more than what's on offer for the price they are charging
This. I personally don't care about everything not Cathay related, so paying almost 30 dollars for a Legendary lord and three units is simply not justifiable lmao
@@yorickvlt1021And even if you cared about the other content, the price is still ridiculous.
This is clearly CA trying to squeeze as much profit out of this as they can. It doesn't matter if sales are lower, as long as profit is higher.
@@SunlessSage It's kinda nuts that a lord pack costs nearly half the game's price + as much as a faction pack, especially when said faction had less overall content compared to previous ones. (Granted that this is the largest lord pack released so far with 12 ish units + 5 legendary lords/heroes, not counting RoR reskins)
It feels like every1 is just upping prices cuz every1 else is, though their newest Legendary Lord designs + campaign mechanics are always improving :S
@@zytoxiq I don't mind a small price increase. It's indeed obvious that this pack has more content than other similar packs, and life as a whole has become more expensive.
However, this price increase is too far imo. I'd rather keep my money for when Baldur's Gate 3 releases on PS5 rather than spend part of it on an overpriced DLC.
@@zytoxiq
I think if it were 16€ to maybe 20€ it wouldnt be quite as bad. The big problem is how they price it the same as the chaos dwarves, which was already more expensive than previous race-packs.
Even if anything here looks cool and useful, previously they added cool new mechanics and units as well (more units and characters relative to each faction, actually), but now they put 10€ to 7€ on top of what could be the reasonble price.
Kislev definitely has my favorite units here with this DLC. I absolutely love the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts! It looks like a giant Wendigo and I'm all for it!
More like a Leszy since Kislev is a Slavic Soup.
The skeletons in Mother Ostankya's basket give a thumbs up after tossing the skull, it's great. Animation work is good.
Beastmen can also recruit Incarnate of Elemental Beasts apparently
I now wish transformation of Kadon summoned an incarnate elemental instead of a manticore. Could reuse the cool cygor summmoning animation.
Such a shame you need to pay $25 for it
Hey Zerkovich, I think you do a great job when rating these abilities! Just want to mention that in a lot of the cases of the regiment of renown units, they don't actually have better stats than the other units, they are just always max EXP units. While it's nice to see how strong each of the units could be once they fully level up, I think it's important to make those distinctions in the video. A quick way to compare the two is to show the regular and RoR variants together when doing unit selection in multiplayer screen and manually leveling up the regular unit in that place. Thanks again for the content 👏!
I’m not buying this DLC at $25, but I wanted to say I really appreciate this kind of content.
The changeling looks like he could be fun , especially with the trolling scribes and the randomness but 25$ is just hell no.
It's not a matter of money for me, i can afford it, but if we keep buying these low content overpriced dlcs we will end up with 90$ games with 5 dlcs that each will cost like 40-50$ and personally i don't want that.
@@rudolfrudi5452 Only idiots don't realize this. Obviously everyone has the money, but the principle of paying more and more for less and less is disgusting, especially considering how little CA has been upkeeping the base game.
@@rudolfrudi5452yeah, me too. I have disposable income but I am not brain dead.
@@rudolfrudi5452I am more than content to start up my 15th skaven or empire playthrough.
@@TaRAAASHBAGSYes, exactly. When I say I will not buy this at this price and people say I am a cheapstake, I just respond : nah I just have principles.
At 6:54
The thumbs up by the skeletal hand behind the mother Ostankia cracked me up🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shouldn't the Lion statues be considered constructs like the Terracotta Sentinels?
@@bluemilkalienmonster522 i mean if i smash that statue hard enough it finna break so i guess it makes sense
Just because you pay 25€ / 20£ for a DLC it doesn't mean that you get quality and no sloppy oversights.
Maybe they will fix it in half a year.
@@anyname4306only fools pay, we chads use cream api.
They probably got copied from the tomb kings back before they went undead.
@@Alex-pj8nz TK constructs were always constructs tho
The lack of generic Lords/Heros is kinda big for me
The lack of a generic Hag lord is almost a dealbreaker for me.
If they aren't FLC then I'm just going to be skipping this DLC.
@@semi-useful5178I feel like a lot of ppl will be too
Same for me. I would have preferred a generic melee hero for Tzeentch rather than the cockatrice that would have filled a big gap in their roster. Muthlith vortex beast looks cool though
@@Crucial_End
We shouldnt have just one or the other. For that price, generic heroes for all as well as these units (maybe a few more) SHOULD all be included.
Still it adds nothing close to the ammount that the chaos dwarfs added in units and characters, while charging the same price.
I want to see a cook off between Ostankya and Grom the Paunch
And Kugath
@@chaotix7275 Not Kugath, he would demolish this two
Throt and Skrag can be the judges.
When I first heard of Onyx Crowmen, I never expected actual crows.
You should show the unit ability's tooltips on the screen when talking about them.
Couldn't agree more.. I'm interested in Cooldowns, etc. :)
i think the crowmen are gonna be amazing for defending the ballons a lot easier.
also if you turn into a dragon child can you still transform into dragon for as the changeling?
As I understand it when you transform into a lord you have the exact same abilities as the original so yeah I imagine you can go dragon mode.
the bet thing about these DLC that this point is that for kislev and cathey, most of the units are their entirely new creations, never made into miniatures by games workshop
The thing in the woods is from mordheim and the incarnate elemental from monstrous arcanum
@@PoorManatee6197 And both were never associated with Kislev in any way as per his point
@@MrBlueSleeves his post was that they were 'entirely new creations' they are not. they existed before. and the Elemental of Beasts was a Beastman unit before Kislev. Both even had miniatures too.
@@skeith1543 When was it a beastman unit?
"entirely new creations" I guess the terminology here upset you. I don't take it as literally as you
@@MrBlueSleeves Words convey meaning. His meaning was wrong, simple as.
Monsterous arcanum, the Forgeworld book which introduced the Elemental of Beasts indicated it was primarily summoned by Beastmen and very few others. If i recall, it also had some rules that the Beastmen had, but it's been a long time.
Kislev got the best units for it in this DLC. They not only look good but also patch some decent holes in kislevite roster.
Makes me want to commit to a Kislev campaign finally because I love my horrifying beasts.
no hag witch lord though
6:54 The skeleton arm giving Ostankya a thumbs up is hilarious xD
*Cue T2 End Theme.*
“It’s limited in uses so it’s not too bad” so are lords and heroes!!
Hybrid lord with the abylity to fly that also gets the abylity to deal up to 20% damage to any lord or hero in the game is a great way to get a hybrid lord that can beat up deadicated melee lords
New Kislev units are SICK! Love the vendigo vibes. Beast incarnate is the SEM Kislev needed since bear was a bit too chunky and slow.
Agree! Although not sure Kislev needed another missile unit.
More wechuge looking I think but yea they look insanely cool.
I agree they look cool but they don't look like units from an "order" faction. These look like they should be part of the Norscan faction not a human based Kislev faction.
So, now we have Baba Yaga? Hell yeah.
If they add One-eyed Likho, Zmey Gorynich and Brick stove oven as a mount, I will cry with tears of mythological joy.
For Mother Ostankya they should have given her flying mortar and pestle, for a better immersion. Or even a Hut on the chicken legs - as an epic mount, or as unique monster.
The chicken hut is her campaign mechanic.
Cool, I didn't know that. That makes a lot of sense.@@Cyiel568
The bet you'll get is I heard her chariot can grow spider legs
7:19 ok who bring the night goblin mushroom to the kislev desing team?
I do NOT like how the Jet Lion looked directly at me through the screen. Some Shara Ishvalda shit.
You'd kinda expect the vortex beast to be unbreakable. or at least have more leadership. that thing looks like a chaos spawn on sterioids.
Thats basically what they are in the lore. They are several chaos spawn shoved together and further mutated into a giant gellish being.
I want the Chaos Sawn to upgrade into the Vortex Beast in WoC warbands.
@@AnMComm that'd be pretty cool
@@AnMComm I want chaos spawns to not just be recolours of each other
Didn't expect the Cockatrice to show up.
If they don't have a blurb where Greasus declares that he'll never eat one of these ever again, I'm undoing my pre-order.
11:15 that dude definitely works out to maintain those abs.
Imagine you're a hunter poaching game in the forests of Kislev. You turn a corner and see this guy using a tree as a pull-up bar.
Been looking forward to this video ever since the dlc was announced. Always do a great job Zerk!!
Wow, hearing about Yuan Bo, the combo Net of Amyntok+Comet of Cassandora is so beautiful!
Plus Shem's Burning Gaze... kinda iffy on Blossom Wind but he also got Talons of Night from the Yin spellbook so can't complain too much I suppose.
This might change in the finals release but as of right now Tzangors and the Incarnate of Beasts can actually be used by Beastmen in multiplayer, presumably they will be recruitable in campaign as well.
I was expecting Tzaangors to the equivalent of Bestigor Herd, but with shields.
Instead, they gor barrier and way more armour than Gor Herd (shields) but with lower MD and HP.
Gotta test what is the better frontline for beastmen now.
The aesthetics of the new Kislev units are great, it's a faction I never really gelled with but these new monsters look sick especially the incarnate. Would be good fun to get them as an allied/vassal recruit as vampire counts I think for stacking mortis fun
Imagine being a construct made out of stone and having less armor than some crossbowmen that literally have their necks wide open lol.
Ngl those Mordheim Balewolves look so damn nice! The colours look fantastic! Im so excited for this DLC
The thumbs up from Ostankya's backpack is golden
The crowmen are a bit more chunky then I thought they would be.
i really thought they were gonna make the mutalith into an artillery piece, similar to the bastiladon with the solar engine
Kinda weird that akshina ambushers have that modern scope in their crossbows.
huh... yeah that is weird. good catch
I guess it could be fitting for Skaven or Dwarfs but wild Kislev people?? XD
@@Nikolas5842Well, it isn't hard to put spyflass on a crossbow. Don't need to be dwarf to do that
The skeleton making the 👍🏻 to Mother Ostankya was actually a cool detail.
Akashina ambushers either killed near cubs for their coats, or they extremely small bears where they come from
Even with the drama around this DLC, I'm glad we get a new Zerk unit list as a result.
What drama
@@mosesborras3221Price increase
@@mosesborras3221 New DLC cost 25 bucks.
@@mosesborras3221High price, relatively little content for the price. The ratio is disappointing.
Wood thing pulled by cows with a chinese man standing totally exposed in the front has more armour than a monster made out of stone.
most of these units look really cool to play, especially the tzeentch lords and heroes who look really fun
looks cool, but no way im paying 25 for it
The units seem great. Would have liked the war drum to be beating when you activate their abilities but otherwise everything looks great.
doesn't it? Zerk didn't active them in the video.
6:45 that animation is hilarious, like a kid who doesn't wanna take a bath and Mother Ostankya was like "you get in there this instant, young man!"
I loved the part where Mother Ostankya said "It's Stankin' time" and raised the price of the DLC while simultaneously deleting content.
Truly one of the lords of all time.
Sortof surprised the crowmen don't have stalk. They hyped up this unit as a sneaky spy unit only to give it the ability to detect other stalking units better. I think a hero version would have been better.
They're informants and information gatherers, not strictly infiltrators. So having detection abilities is arguably more thematic.
@@tau-5794 the ability to detect stalking units is way less valuable as unit ability than stalk. There's no reason why they couldn't do both. My point is the unit is just meh. Basically just chaos furies or harpies with a slightly different visual appearance and a very niche ability with not very much actual utility.
making heroes require work unlike making harpy 2.0
They fly. Kinda hard for a flying unit to have stalk, what are they gonna do, hide behind clouds? 😅
@@raindrain1 You do realize that there are already flying units in the game that can get stalk?
I like the fact that one of the celestial general's idle animations is him wiping his harmer as if he didn't just beat a deamon on to death
Gotta clean that blood off. It gets in the way.
Anyone notice the tier icon color is swapped between 2 and 3?
I am sad to see that we didn't get more Snow cat units
Jet Lion actually looks really good for triggering harmony.
1200 is cheap for a decent monster too.
1:10
He's like "Who's a good hammer? Yes you are!"
Kinda missed the fact that Cathay also has a bunch of Fire Rain Rocket unit options, which means that you could use the Jade Lion to pin enemy infantry for you to smash with the rockets
you are the best new units reviewer of the lot :p
How is a drum unbreakable but a lion made of jet and jade isn't i also hope beastmen get the cocktrice too but i doubt it sadly
and the elemental incarnate for them and wood elves would make sense
@@theironqueen2386 yes true a can I believe confirm that beastmen can recruit elemental but cannot recruit cocktrice milkandcookies said it in the mother's vs beastmen vid
Yuan Bo is going to be the next one man doomstack.
Human/Dragon form with Net of Amontok & Comet of Cassandora which is possibly the most powerful bombardment spell outside of Ikits nuke.
The kills that guy will get will be insane
Does the War Drum change its song in game when you switch abilities? Would be a cool touch imo.
I really like all units I see here, but for that price we really should have gotten hero and lord options for all factions involved.
Even then, some more units would help justify that premium price.
The Cockatrice is an amazing anti Cav for ranged units. Cav running up at you but in range of troops? Poison slow +passive slow. 1 big model, so it will take less from friendly fire.
Cool units! Playing Tzeentch and Cathay again is gonna be good
yay a cathey leader that uses a weapon
Really liking the new tier icons for units
Yeah I was caught off guard that tier IV's and tier V's now exist. I wonder if that's going to have any effect on battles.
What i like about the recent dlcs is the fact there is no clear winner, all 3 have really cool stuff compared to some of the one sided dlcs of the past.
And all of them got a dick move from CA too ! Cathay with their swap color Jet/Jade lions, Kislev are still seeking for Hags as lord choice and Tzeentch who fucked up his Tzaangors making them low tier unit. Everyone wins and loose at the same time. (Chaos Dwarfs still want Magma Cannons and Deathshriek Rocket their Skullcracker/Demon Engine choo choo)
@@Cyiel568 the games always had color swap units? do you actually not know what ROR are?
They are all losers
@@Cyiel568bro never played total warhammer
Damn. 700 for the Kislev Wendigoes. We’re gonna be seeing a lot of those guys
I think the wolves will be used as a undead counter
CA/GW: Now, we need to come up with a name for these bad boys, any suggestions?
Random Intern: You mean those things in the woods?
CA/GW: Wow, what an outstanding name, let’s use that yeahh!
They were models from Mordheim and that’s actually their names.
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 you know what a joke is right?
The Tzaangors and Elemental of Beasts is also available for the Beastmen roster.
Which made me very happy (although the beastmen are not lacking in single entity monsters, the Elemental beast is a powerhouse who is always welcome!)
Maybe when they update all monochaos factions they'll let beastmen upgrade into the different types of gor
Oh shit really? Now that's a rare Beastman W right there.
Spirit bear looks like a good spell to use if you want to do damage to an empty piece of land.
Lmao there is always some nasty piece of lands who needs to pay against their crimes for being... there
Assert dominance upon the earth.
@@eduardoribeiroucv9630For not defying reality and swallowing my enemies as I have willed it. This is my command!
Not much fire damage in Cathay army? Lore of Yang has 3 fire spell (2 attack spell and a buff) and alchemist can have a fire buff ability available. Then there is also the fire rocket, been single entity jade lion can actually hang out in the firing zone without getting completely destroyed, good luck to any infantry been tied down by a jade lion getting ground targeted, also work really well with yang caster, as can cast jade shield on the lion to limit friendly fire damage.
Yes, not much. Quite accurate description given that utilising this feature requires you to build around it
I am watching this in the middle of the night and I am quite sure I must have dreamed a huge flying black starry bear rocket.
Does the changeling when he changes into other lords, get mounts or anything? For example if he became Count Noctilus, can he get Roth's Moondial and the Necrofex Colossus mount? Or Franz with Deathclaw?
Rofl the spirit bear, CA is taking the piss at this point.
I recall some promo blurbs about another Ostankaya’s cauldron sprouting spider legs and crawling around. Did that not make it in?
That might’ve been too difficult to animate
i haven't heard about that before but it could be a campaign ability that isn't available in custom
Considering the silver shueld that us that big the tzaangors should have much more melee defense
lez be real. a dlc is supposed to make me want to play the included factions. I've not yet played any of these three factions and was considering doing Cathay or Kislev next.
Now though, because I won't be buying this dlc (to vote with my wallet regarding the price) it makes me feel that if I did play these factions I am now missing out.
So instead of encouraging me to play them, the effect it has had is to make me want to hold off playing them. Until a time when the DLC can be purchased for a reasonable price.
Way to do it backwards CA. Feel sorry for the devs and artists that get all their hard work sidelined by greedy suits.
i get that in theory this is a lot of content, but kislev and cathay really are the ones who really needed variety in the frontlines not just more niece pics. i love the asthetic of the kislev units esp. but they just dont fit well with the theme of the rest of the army. if this dlc had added more to just those two factions i would be much happier than an average dlc for three
Lots of great info, thanks! Love the Kislev additions in particular, aside from the Hag Witch. Really fleshes out possible playstyles for them. Mutalith looks great ingame too, better than the trailer ironically.
Zerk, it's worth noting that looks like they added tier 4 units. Previously we had only 3 tiers.
Something to note, the Jet Lion is Yin rather than Yang, so if you want to send your Jade Longma into the enemy backline, just send a Jet Lion alongside them and they'll maintain the yin yang bonuses.
Should make the Crowmen Yin too if Yin melee units are going to be a thing. They're literally made from Yin magic.
I really wanted Tzaangor to be a magical Bestigor
Alot of SEMs this DLC. I hope to see Cathay get some brawler infantry in the future but the general is a nice step forward.
Seems legit....Just gotta target units that are locked down in melee.
What is SEM?
single entity monster @@Mishomish0
@@Mishomish0 Single Entity Monster.
Brawling infantry wouldn't fit Cathay's strict and regimented formation fighting. Maybe if we ever get Yin Yin the Sea Dragon she could "borrow" some VCoast-flavored units for a change in playstyle, but it's certainly not something the Cathay roster needs when they have so many holes to fill yet.
These are great for catching up on the dlc while doing the dishes
Does anyone else notice the Celestial General's giant hammer starts to jiggle when he touches it in his idle animation @ 1:10 🤨
Wish we could get some of these units as models!!!!
wait the unit type description for the things in the woods is things in the wood? how very informative
Zhangu means war drum in chinese so the name is like war drum war drum.
In the tabletop game, Tzaangors are hardly just Tzeentch beastmen. They're actually bird people with unique equipment. CA got lazy, they simply slapped Tzaangor horns onto regular beastmen and called it a day.
Scopes on the crossbows. I like it.
Huh the Incarnate Elemental of Beasts is labelled as Tier 4 and the Mutalith Vortex Beast is labelled as Tier 5. Are they changing the way thjey're labelling units moving forward, or do these 2 have special unlock conditions?
tiers have always been a thing its based on what level the settlements needs to be to get that unit the aspect of war need a tier 4 building to be recruitee there just making it more obvious
@@darkomihajlovski3135 Tier labelling on unit cards was introduced in Warhammer 3 and only ever went up to tier 3 (you can check out the unit browser and see that Phoenix guard for example have tier 3 on their unit card even though they're recruited at settlement tier 5). Tier 4 and 5 labelling has never existed before, but these 2 units have those labels.
Kislev's new units:
Babayaga her pets and furrys with crossbows
Question for tzeench roster : how many of the new units can WoC use from this DLC ? I mean as baseline, for example does chaos spawn can be upgraded to mutalith ? or can you recruit the cockatrice as WoC from their soul mechanic ?
I don't know about that but I do know that beastmen are getting tzaangors and the incarnate elemental of beasts
*rooster
Also what other factions/lords can get the Blue Scribes? I feel like Daniel, Be'lakor and maybe Vilitch should be able to use them.
Dude those Balewolves look so sick!
Seeing a cosmic bear fly towards you might just be how some Chaos cults get started......just as planned.
Thanks for the video!
Drama aside, all of these units look so fucking good.
Props to the people that made the models.
The things in the woods look so fucking good, unbelievable.
Kinda disappointed with Aekold, his whole thing was that he uncontrollably heals EVERYTHING around him, friends and foes, but since he and the rest of woc are so good in melee they got most use of it unless you screwed up. I really wanted him to have the same in this so that he could both be an incredible healer but one you need to be carefull with to not heal the enemy too much
Seeing as he's a melee unit that would make it literally impossible for him to duel anything if it healed indiscriminantly.
It's nice they added a new tier to the three unit tiers, making it four. Even as an experienced player there are some races I'm not familiar with, and it helps to gauge how threatening an unknown unit is at a glance.
Pretty good additions overall