Tesla Model 3 Performance Highland aftermarket stalks
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@@jonchrisvallente3460 it is important that is okay with him, company will grow back
@@anundo Really? I thought they were doing well...
The fact that owners even feel the need to install this, should be an embarrassment to Tesla.
i was raging when testdriving the highland almost a year ago.. wanted them back so bad. Now, after a few months, (got it in march) i dont want them back anymore at all. You really get used to any new situation, even roundabouts. And all my friends who switched to highland feel the same.
@@SaschaPlagge sure people get used to stupid things all the time. Just go to an old person's house and have a look at all the workarounds they got used to for things that are broken or stupid. Same vibe here:
Tesla broke a perfectly working concept for no reason at all and people are getting used to the broken thing without questioning why it's even broken in the first place.
I havent tried highland yet. But belive me - some Tesla owners feel a need to install ANY TESLA GADGET AVAILABLE in their car!
@@MichaelPanzer Who defines stupid though? There is probably more than one right solution. As I said, i for one don't wish the stalks back.
❤ Dear Tesla, please bring back the factory mounted stalks to Model 3 Highland ❤ At least as an option when ordering a new car.
Cars without factory installed stalks are a „no go“ for many customers.
correct.
they will be force to, at least in Europe
Literally the first mod i would get right away.
This plus a HUD. At least the speed.
Why even getting those cars when you have to mod them to make them useful?
@@marcel151 That is a good question.
Because of their overall quality and technology. And there is not one car that in some way wouldn't need mods, to be better suited for the owner.
For me, the highest dream is a Tesla, and those mods are stocks and HUD. 🤷♂
had my m3p since July. Took me about an hour to update my muscle memory. It hasn't been an issue since. My first electric car.
Previous cars VW, BMW, Porsche, Honda, Subaru, Toyota.
Was thinking about getting the stalks but decided to wait a bit and see how I would adapt. Turns out I don't need them, or want them.
@@aXimo their overall quality is still considered rather poor
As a German driver. I need the LICHTHUPE to talk to other drivers :)
Well, that's actually an easy to reach button.. Still, I don't really like the removal of the indicator stalks. I'm sort of used to it by now (2 months in) but still don't like it with roundabouts.
@@mousetreat but not when the steering wheel is upside down, which can happen when entering an intersection or curve if you want to flash your headlights
Für das obligatorische „AUS DEM WEG, GERINGVERDIENER!„ 😂
@@NicoSteinacker Natürlich für das Nett " Ich Verzichte auf meine vorfahrt und du kannst vor mir raus" ;)
At 12:07 you can see the right stock move when he used the left stock to activate the right turn signal.
Same at 08:36
The mechanical integration is not optimal.
Think someone forgot to torque a screw, or perhaps put some loctite on it 😀
Means it hasn’t been installed right. There is a video from a guy in the US who installed the same stalks and his didn’t move.
Saving on those things is SO stupid from Tesla.
I disagree. In 2-3 years Teslas will have steer by wire on newest cars - no need for stock there.
@@ashotgaziyan8876correct,short term pain for long term gain ,them stalks actually look too cluttered now in my opinion.
@@ashotgaziyan8876then remove it once they have steer by wire magic. What a wierd argument.
@@ashotgaziyan8876 Steer by wire has nothing to do whether to have stalks or not.There will still be a steering wheel.
@@ashotgaziyan8876 Steer by wire has nothing to do with this
The stalks initially disappeared when the yoke was introduced: With a yoke, in every turn the hands move away from the stalks. But with a round steering wheel, the stalks are still the most ergonomic and user friendly solution. Tesla should allow their customers to order cars with stalks - at least as an option.
Yoke is stupid and no stalks, stupider. Saves Tesla some money and ruins the experience.
@@savedfaves Yoke would work fine if the steering ratio was better tuned for it, like with the steer-by-wire in the Cybertruck, where you never have to lift your hands off of the sides of the wheel. But with the current steering ratio... yeah, no.
I'm a fan of a lot of things Tesla does. I really like the tech. But the lack of physical controls for aircon, and lack of blinker and drive selector stalks is a huge user experience failure. Tesla went way too far with the cost saving and simplification thing. I hope Tesla will give more power to their UX experts.
Electric adjustment of air vents is no problem. It's actually better since you can adjust on the far right of the car from the screen. It's safer.
Tesla interface is great and most fuctions automated really well. Only miss step was removal of stalks
@@bjornnylandbut you cannot turn them off 😡
When practical equipment needed for safe driving becomes 3rd party mods/add-ons... You know that you are not acting for the good of your customers 😢
@stennan pretending this is a safety issue is just assinine. If your mind is so inflexible, you cannot adjust, then you aren't suitable to be driving anymore. It is a preference issue, nothing more.
@@thebarkingmouse it is a button that is used to indicate a change in traveling direction. Being able to properly signal in time is important for safety and signaling is a legal requirement when operating a motor vehicle.
Deciding to place said button on a surface that moves around as you turn makes it more difficult to reach. And it is placed next to the button that indicates a turn to the opposite direction.
I have yet to get any suggestion of the benefits to the driver by removing this part. It doesn't improve visibility? Ergonomics? Safety? Will it make the Tesla more attractive for a prospective buyer during a test drive if they come from a vehicle with stalks?
@@thebarkingmouse All you fanboys defending this stupid decision are the ones who will be causing tons of accidents, especially in roundabouts. It's not a preference issue, it's clearly worse and less safe. Stop defending bad designs.
@H3aby84 calling me a fanboy is just an ad hominem attack I'm no such thing. I've been a Tesla shareholder since briefly after the IPO because I could see the writing on the wall, but I was highly critical of the cars after an experience in Montana and extreme cold when a car went into limp mode despite having plenty of range.
I waited nearly 10 years to buy a Tesla myself because I was waiting for the cars the software and the charging Network to be ready.
Whatever your problem with the car is I frankly don't care. I'm very happy with the car and have had no trouble operating it. But of course I'm reasonably intelligent and tech savvy. Perhaps your limitations are such that it's not the right choice for you.
But feel free to bleat on.
Please also mount a ‘head up display’ on that bulky aftermarket thing. 👍😅
The only people who find the stalks useless are those who don’t use blinkers in roundabouts.
I really hope Elon reconsiders....because a fixed spot for a no look blinker is just safer....always!
The only reasonable situation where stalks would actually not be needed is the Cybertruck's steer by wire, they should have given people the option to have stalks if they want to.
Make Tesla blink again!
Maybe Tesla should just produce a 'skeleton' car with all the interfaces published and let the aftermarket guys make it good.
Tesla’s drive to delete as many parts as possible is flawed, I test drove a Model 3 Highland and it was impossible to signal to exit a roundabout. The wipers on my Tesla have always been useless because Tesla opted to use camera+software to detect rain instead of spending $5 on a rain sensor.
It is exactly the same in the UK regarding using indicators comi g up to and on a roundabout. Living in Sweden it is do annoying that a lot of people don’t indicate when approaching a roundabout because they don’t need to. I believe it is the same in Germany. So annoying and in UK if you don’t do it, then people get really annoyed. Makes so much sense.
Dude, I love your presentation of material and sense of humor 😁
if the Teslas had HUDs and normal stalks, then they would be a top pick
And 360 camera (so a front bumper camera)
And rockets 😅
Making stalks great again. It is one of the reasons I chose to buy the pre-refresh M3. I am not willing to give up the controls. Sure, I wish I had the upgraded seats, but the stalks would be far more irritating. Glad someone is making options for those who are buying the Highland. Just choose your battles wisely. LOL Looking forward to a S3XY solution.
It isn't bad for a first attempt, I expect they will bring out a revised version at some point. To be honest, I've borrowed both the Highland Performance and the LR and before driving them, I thought the lack of stalks would be irritating and awkward but i got used to it straight away. Having said that, if they can do a better version it would be handy to have both options. Especially as I think my 89 year old father would struggle with the lack of stalks. Something I would do before retro fitting stalks is either a heads up display or a small instrument binnacle in front of the driver. The information I get from having both screens in the Model S is something I would miss. Please Tesla, can we have an Audi Avant style sports estate/shooting brake Model 3.
Now as I'm used to it I actually think it's better without stalks
The biggest reason i don't want a Model 3 is the minimalist design. I absolutely hate it. So if it could get stalks but have the right one be for the wipers and then also an aftermarket dash so you always have the speedometer in front of you, then it would be interesting again. If you could also get buttons for certain things so that it starts to look like an actual car then i would seriously consider it.
This plus S3XY Knob and S3XY buttons (you can use these for any function you want, like wipers), and one of the many options for aftermarket heads-up displays for Tesla would probably do the job.
You'll be sorted with aftermarket stalks. You don't need a display Infront, you move your head and eyes all over the place when driving, e.g. looking at the mirrors. The speedo on the screen is fine. But I think the quality of these stalks isn't good enough yet. But I'm sure they will improve quickly.
@@EwanM11 No i DO need a display in front. Not only do i think it looks ugly as it is now but i have had cars where they had the display in the middle and i didn't like it.
7:28 As a norwegian that have had license for 18 years now, I confirm this is CORRECT! THANK YOU!
Great - thanks for doing this video. A fatal error corrected!
Just got a 2024 TM3, I don't mind not having the right hand side stalk, that's easy to adjust to since you don't use it much, however, it's going to take me a few days to adjust to pushing a button for the turn signals. If the aftermarket stalks were exceptional quality and had good feel, I might consider adding them at some point, but if they have a cheap feel to them, I would not spend the money.
Maybe they don't have roundabouts in California? 😆
Interesting that companies design things without giving any thoughts in consumer needs. What does the no stalks design improve for consumers? Only savings for the manufacturer.
Awesome product which shouldn't be necessary! Great video.
600€ for that is a lot....
wow. that is a bit much. if it was like half the price it would be worth it. I would never buy for 600.
@@Mike-MinionThere are a few other aftermarket options for 3-400€
@@swecreationsThe alternatives are the same kit. I think the 600€ is the installed price.
Imagine spending 600€ on "muh, but stalks" 😂
For me the Blinkers on the Steering wheel work and i got used to it within about 5 Weeks of driving. Roundabouts are pretty easy (even with the tight roundabouts in switzerland where i live), worst thing is having 2 turns close to each other or trying to indicate a 3point turn... no idea where the blinkers are then.
All the people saying blinkerbuttons are a good idea are idiots and should get a "lamas".
It's a shame Tesla don't sell original stalks and buttons and we have to turn to 3rd party to get it.
Unfortunately Tesla are to arrogant to admit that their design have several flaws, and all fanboys and girls are to ignorant to understand it.
They did eventually revert the yoke to a wheel, so I guess it's still possible they change their mind again.
Bjørn says "We are in Norway. We drive like we are supposed to drive in Norway." What about the BMW and Audi drivers in Norway? The left lane huggers? 😂
Regardless, it is good to have the stalks to make signaling like you are supposed to a reasonable option for drivers. I am glad there at least is an aftermarket stalk option for Teslas. Hopefully S3XY buttons will have another aftermarket option soon. I look forward for a Tesla Bjørn review of their stalks.
I have testdriven the ID3. There you turn the knob/«gearshifter» forward/from you to drive and against you to go in reversere. For me thats logical.
I drove VW and now an Renault Master. The original stalks on Tesla have a unpleasant feeling for me. The resistance is a little to heavy, and the missing click on turn signals (blink3 or blink full) is annoying. It feels to simple and cheap for me.
But ok, the M3 is still a great car.
Surely personal preference but I love that the stalks operate smooth and almost silent in the Tesla. The resistance in the turn signal stalk isn't a (useful) thing anymore since the turn signal "auto-off" update. I can't even remember how it feels.
Cars need stalks for signal lights (blinkers) and gear selector. And also wiper controls should be on the stalk.
That is a must
It's a Musk-have.
@@bjornnyland😂
For me turn signal are a must have.
They're there mate.. Just not on a stalk. 1 week and I was used to it.
Musk-have
Summary: Let’s wait for the sexy stalk…
Ghost gear shift 9:50
If the central steering wheel part with the buttons had been static (not rotating with the wheel), just like some Citroëns had, it might have been ok to have indicator buttons on the wheel. But I can't imagine how anyone (but Elon Musk) could suggest a solution so stupid as where Tesla put them. Great that there is kind of a bugfix for this now.
Have to say, I've had my M3 now 10 months and 20,000 klm, before I bought it I wondered if i would get on with the buttons or the gear swipe. I got used to the buttons and swipe pretty quick to the point i haven't thought about them since probable the first couple of hundred klm, yep even on roudabouts 😁 and we have a ton here in spain, france etc. I actually prefer the look, without them.
Björn, your Tesla Knowledge seems to be outdated, please Show me in a new Tesla where I can Switch it to creep…. The Option has been removed long time ago.
as the lord intended ....with stalks
The turn signal buttons are worse but still workable and do require marginally less physical effort. The lack of drive selector stalk is ridiculous and should be illegal.
Drive stalk?
Outside RUclips and Internet this is not such a big problem than one could think. Not that many Tesla owners who really find this a problem. Its most non-Tesla-owners that complain about this.
@@fredrikbarthlen5222I've owned Highland M3P for 3 months. It is certainly frustrating going back and forth between it and our Model Y with stalks.
@@fredrikbarthlen5222the issue is that Tesla wants to sell this car to non Tesla owners as well 😅
oh thank goodness! maybe I will get a highland after all
small correction MEB Cars pushing up is selecting drive and pushing down is setting reverse :)
”Aftermarket stalks” never thought I would hear that. Never buying a Tesla.
Only thing stopping me from considering new model 3. I guess if this becomes an option, it’s back on my list
I never had a problem with no stocks and I use them excessive. But whatever works for you😅 at least people have a option if they really think they need them. Maybe with the Juniper Tesla will give the option to add them from the factory.
But with the progress of FSD i doubt it
Yes! I would want those if I buy a Tesla (and an headup display, but thats a different story)
if elon was sane would make sense
Alien technology!
Not bad 👍 I stalks. But, I would survive none if I had too. The Cybertruck steer-by-wire system would be with only having to rotate the wheel less than 180 degrees.
Press stalk forward/up to go back, would drive me nuts 😀but get that it's the same for Teslas with original stalk so suppose Tesla owners are used to it
Forward and reverse handle works fine, but it should stay in the selected gear. Now it goes back to neutral
I have driven pre 2009 cars until I collected my 2024 Enyaq the other week and the thing I miss is the gear change, hate the stupid button a lever on the steering column would be so much better for slow maneuvers,
I don't like the lack of physical knobs and dial on modern cars its way more distracting when driving
Your Enyaq didn't come with all kinds of control buttons on the steering wheel?
Highland owner checking in here, I personally don't miss having stalks. It's really not an issue, and i live in an area with a lot of roundabouts.
same here
I won't buy another tesla until they fix this. So it is problem for some people but i believe you
Same here, not missing the stalks. I think this no stalk argument is used more like scaring thing. You'll get used to it faster than you think.
It will be more obsolete when FSD arrives..
@@BennoBosinski so, never.
:-) Funny to see Tesla owners having problems no other car driver in the world has... :-) ;-) But a big THANK YOU to let us know Tesla now has stalks again!
2024 M3 owner here.. Got used to it in no time.. So ja, not a problem.
Great addition(I know it should be standard), now there is hope for the juniper model Y if it gets improved charging curve and range.
At the end Tesla will ends up offering the stalks in the configuration page as they did with the steering wheel and the joke.
If that was the case, wouldn't they have already done that with the Model S and X that come with no stalks since more than 3 years?
@@Tschacki_Quacki How much time they took to offer the steering wheel as alternative for the joke? 2+ years?
lets make die Schweiz Winetou again 👌
What about other controls like TACC speed resume? Is it finally possible?
Anyway, I would buy these right away if it doesn't require taking to parts half of the car and loosing warranty 😥
If it's good enough for Ferrari why not Tesla. What is the thing with stalks. I've driven cars with windscreen washer controlled by the left foot, foot controlled high beams, indicators on the dash panel and even manual geared cars that require you to take you hand completely off the wheel to change gears... how bizarre!. Try moving from left and drive to right hand drive or the other way round, it's confusing at first. All of these things are different and cause initial problems but a competent driver should be able to get used to them. If the implementation is bad then I'm sure that is worth discussion. I can't see it being a problem for many drivers (in the UK at least) as most people don't use them or use them just after turning the wheel.
All these people saying "well I would buy the S/X/3 Highland if it didn't have the stupid buttons for stalks and/or yoke".. shows the same people there are plenty of aftermarket options and now round steering wheel from Tesla - and not one of these people buy. It's just the pretenders that complain about buttons/yoke. Buttons and yoke are second nature for me, including roundabouts. It's not a problem.
they buy another brands. Tesla is so stupid so people change brands
I'm currently a Tesla owner and I'm debating if my next car will be something else, because of the lack of stocks. If good after markert solutions exist, then it changes things slightly.
But most aftermarket stuff is usually quite poorly built, made of cheap materials and lack the fit and finish I expect.
@@foobar6846 They do.. Enhance, makers of S3XY buttons (I bought these because I thought the buttons on the yoke of my Plaid would be a PITA out of roundabouts). I never used them (because it took me a couple of days of driving to be able to signal out of roundabouts) and I have now programmed them to do other things than turn signals. Enhance (makers of S3XY buttons) are coming out with stalks (that can be installed in minutes). They make quality parts.
I shouldn't need to spend more money after buying an expensive car to fix an issue they created in the first place. My Model 3 will likely be my last Tesla unless stalks become standard again, better than the old ones as well.
@@SunsetHaze The aftermarket cost is less than a simple option (like backup camera) for any other car. Like I said, 100% of these people moaning about this won't buy the car if it came with stalks or a steering wheel. It's just an excuse.
Tesla tried to reinvent the wheel, as it were. They failed.
Mickey Mouse on dash :)
Why is changing the direction up side down?
Stock down for driving forward feels a bit dumb to me.
It's been this way for most automatic transmissions in most cars, afaik. It's an arbitrary decision that was made, none of them is more "correct" than the other as there is no correlation between up/down and back/forwards, but just like with the decision to have stalks at all, it's best to just do what everyone else is doing so transitioning from one car to the other is easier.
I would never shitify the car like that. STALKLESS FOREVER!!!!
My Model Y is the last Tesla I'll buy. The company focus has changed. Removing stalks is yet another sign of pigheaded leadership.
I wonder if Tesla will remove the brake pedal as well? 😂
There will be only one pedal which is accelerator pedal. To brake, you hold down a button on the steering wheel and push in the accelerator pedal. It will then work as brake pedal.
@@bjornnyland love it! Best idea!
@@bjornnyland I'm willing to try driving with a joystick.
It would take some time to get used to, but how great would it be to remove the steering wheel and pedals altogether? 😊
@@bjornnyland Wasteful, just put the button on the screen.
Click "Breaking", then choose "Normal braking" or "Emergency braking", click "Confirm"
They will integrate the pedal functions into two stalks that are behind the steering wheel.
Unpopular opinion, but I really like the buttons as turns signals and no gearbox stalk/stick.
I've now owned Highland for 6 months and this is my first Tesla but second EV (Leaf was first for 3 years). I've gotten so used to the buttons for turn signals that it's weird to drive other "regular" cars now. Even the fact that "get in and drive" is so rare in other EV's as well. Personal opinion - at most this is more of a "getting used to" thing more of a "I will never get used to it no matter what" thing.
Furthermore, the lack of HUD is also something that is second nature to me now. The visibility is so good in front without it (compared to other cars that have massive HUD's, Toyotas for example). The eye movement time from the road to the edge of the screen to see the big number for speed takes at very least the same time as for the regular HUD speed checking.
All the same goes for the no buttons at all argument - everything in Tesla UI is basically set once and touch again rarely. So driving regularly will not involve pressing any buttons except for the navigation entries (it automatically already navigates to work in mornings and home after the work). And changing the temperature can be done via voice or simple swipe on the temperature indicator on the screen.
Saying how you should blink in Norway is hilarious. Norwegians don't know what the blinker is used for, or that it even exists.
Blinker is practical, gear stalk is useless
I have model3 highland without stalks and I am super satisfied with it
It really is genious placing the controls for forward and reverse driving as well as blinkers and wipers easily accesible with one touch close to the steering wheel. Cant believe no one has ever thought about it before. Well done Tesla!
obvious troll is obvious
@@SNORKYMEDIA I have heard it used to be called "sarcasm" in the good old days. Trolling is something a little bit different.
Tesla is the only company whose customers seem happily willing to spend hundreds/thousands afterward to modify their vehicles. Like the stalks, or the yoke, or wrapping their 100k CT, etc.. Should require Tesla to apply a retroactive reimbursement to compensate for it!
had my m3p since July. Took me about an hour to update my muscle memory. It hasn't been an issue since. My first electric car.
Previous cars VW, BMW, Porsche, Honda, Subaru, Toyota.
Are you serious? Check out any 20 years old’s car.
Yeah... only Tesla owners modify their vehicles. Very reasonable comment bro
@@EPicurux **laughs in every pickup ever.**
Does this Model 3 also has the AVAS speaker disconnected or is this not mandatory in Norway? My Model 3 is so loud in reverse in comparison. :(
Isn't it time to dump Tesla, Bjorn?
You mean sell? I already sold my Tesla 5 years ago...
Thats why Tesla will loose many costumers over time.
Sorry guys I've had my M3p for a few months now would never go back to stalks there ratshit! I love my buttons!
Wunderbar!
Make Tesla great again 🇺🇸
Looks like removing the stalks only makes sense with FSD.....It's the same with removing the parking sensors before having a replacement....
What about the warranty? Will removing the airbag and steering wheel void the Tesla warranty?!
With Tesla you need to explain that innovations of 100 years ago, really were a good idea. What a deranged company. Just as deranged as its owner.
These solutions are such a good idea. It means that my present 2021 model 3 may not be my last Tesla after all. Thanks for testing this one out and I’m sure there are others. What an idiotic move it was to remove stalks, especially here in the UK where roundabouts abound. I think we can all guess whose genius idea it was 🤔
Tesla Bjorn is antisocial now 😄😄😄😄😁😁😁
How about a cordless HUD solar powered? Does it exist?
How can anyone consider buying this car, knowing they cheaped out on STALKS! No buttons, no door handles. This car should cost 25k max.
Nice progress but I will only buy one if I can get parking sensors and Panasonic batteries
I can't understand so much hate against the lack of stalks, I got fully used after driving my highland the first 5000 km and I really prefer the buttons now.
MTGA MTGA MTGA!
No stanks, we need AUTO blinkers...based in navigation.... Else, stalks are the best
What if we don't navigate or if navigation is wrong?
@@bjornnyland it's a start, dont you think? Off course it can be wrong, sometimes autopilot has the wrong speed to. It seems to me the ONLY way to make stalks useless
yeah, i've got a few km to the grocery store with a few roundabouts and turns, i'll be sure to put that destination into the route planning. Doesn't everyone do this? Oh right they don't. Makes total sense to remove the stalks for that!
It's insane no indicator stalks or gear select, no way I'd get one, my next car being an EV for sure and I'm a / was a Tesla/EV fanboy. They put a screen in the back and not one in front of the driver, duh?
Let Elon fall forever.
Engineering genius Elon Musk.
did you forget an /s?
i dont care, how much is it? I don't even own a model 3/y, but I want it.
You know Elon lost it not only from his X posts, but to what he did about stalks, charging team, etc
If it was only L/R stalk..
I will be hacking a stalk using two s3xy buttons.
One button on the left side of the steering wheel to indicate left turns and one button on the right side. No stalks needed. But not both buttons on one side.
⬅️ 🚘 ➡️
Still terrible because they still change position when turning the wheel. Buttons are a stupid solution to something that has worked for ages.
@H3aby84 blah blah blah from a person who can't afford the car and it's just blindly bleating on because he's angry.
Ah yes the blinker stalk one of the reasons to avoid the tesla m3. Another thing is for me the braking pedal without max. regeneration before applying the real brakes.