Cloud Discovers He Never Been SOLDIER - FINAL FANTASY
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- While trying save Aerith from Hojo in the lab, Hojo remember who is really cloud is and reveals to him that he never been a SOLDIER before. I have edited the scene from FF7 remake and included a flashback from FFCC when Hojo Meets Cloud for the First time and make his experiment on him. I also included the vision of CLOUD of Jenova. Enjoy!
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"Cloud, are you ok?!"
"Yeah I'm fine. For some reason I had a flashback that had bad graphics...."
Lmaoo
Cloud: I flashed back to previous console. Shits going deeper than I thought
@@richardendresz161 xD
😂😂😂
Reminds me of the flashbacks from MGS4
When you realise Hojo is the actuall villian of the game.
andy pete kinda obvious, but YES... I was waiting for this comment
And how the fuck Lucrecia bore his seed. 🤔🤔
@@EianDeVera In the original,he raped her(Though they never explicitly said that due to `90s censorship). In the flashback scenes in "Dirge of Cerberus" , she married him out of guilt because she felt unworthy of being with Vincent due to blaming herself for his father Grimoire`s death.
Sephiroth and Jenova may be the ones you have to stop, however, Hojo is the cause of most of the damage that happened to the Planet and everyone else
It seemed to me during Vincent flashback that Lucrecia was actually in love with Hojo and that he took advantage from being the father to inject Jenova cells into her being pregnant, not sure this was about rape here that would make less sense
When you lie on your resume and forgot you did
😂😂😂 i'm dead
🤣 Dang
Funniest comment here 🤣😂
LMAO 😂😂😭
LOL
Hojo basically started this all with his experimentations, if he had just told Sepiroth that he was genetically enhanced and that his real mother wasn’t some alien none of this would’ve happened
Hojo: But where's the science in that?
Yeah and tell him I’m your father as well ....... Sephiroth will go mental and still go round killing everyone.
Maybe if he had tell him when he was still a child but the adult Sephiroth would have gone insane anyway because all his life would have been a lie.
@@genevievelaplace7301 exactly
@@genevievelaplace7301 No he wouldn't have, that just means he is a solider like gongaga.
Wow, this cloud is having a stroke every 5 minutes
It’s the whispers and zacks fault. His mind was already messed up do to the hole Zack sephrath and Hojo thing. Add in the whispers who literally try to force destiny and mess with you based off your importers to history, it’s not surprising that a main protagonist with amnesia would be getting all flashe do to that
@@kevind3974 you do realize the whispers first showed up with aerith touching cloud right, hojo is only to be blamed for these events that happened(excluding the whispers).
Consider remake as parallel Timeline to original FF7, Aerith and sephiroth are the only one that know whats going to happen, unfortunatly shit hits the fan when cloud touches Aerith and begins to see whispers of destiny and add sephiroth who is trying to change destiny to save himself.
@@kevind3974 isnt the whole thing with cloud is that he thinks he's zack?
@@CaelumDino That's the time Cloud can see them. Aerith sees them before that (When she's startled in the opening sequence, you can make them out in the distance)
“I hate that man. I really do.” - Aerith G.
Amen, Aerith. Amen.
Well he's the reason *she never saw Zack in 4 years right? Really
*AMEN*
@@justashumaiko5818 yup
Yes
Sephiroth: Amen
@@justashumaiko5818you know Zack could have woken up Vincent
When you soldier on despite not being SOLDIER, now that's soldiering.
GoodwillWright 👌🏻🏅
Sharpe?
Cloud doesn’t soldier. He moseys.
Oorah to that, brother.
Cloud never made it into soldier, but Zack made him a soldier. He believe that Cloud was worthy enough to carry his Legacy. That’s why he thinks that way. But also somewhat his memories are fused with the ones of zacks. He may not remember Zack either. Lol
Weird right? Fusing the memories but the result is nothing is remembered
He doesn't have fuse memories. He jus remembers he's side of the story when he, and Zack were escaping. He's memories are just fuzzy since he was fucked up during crisis core.
@@eldirtyfaygo5395 Oh yeah my mistake sorry. But anyway I think Cloud is stronger than Zack back in time. He could lift and throw Sephiroh away with his bare strength. After that he got injected with Jenova cells, now his body adapt it and may utilize those cells
@@phucnguyen-ce8qx disagree. We don't know if cloud is stronger then zack because zack never got the chance to see his potential.
This is not the story of FF VII 1997. Only the story Square invent for Crisis Core, a commercial use of the brand FF VII. For the remake, it's the same. The relationship between Cloud and Zack in FF VII 1997 was not something deep because in this time, it was enough for the story, Zack devlopment was not needed. Crisis Core like Before Crisis, Dirge of Cerberus or Advent Children has a bad compatibility with the story of FF VII 1997. Many things doesn't go well with the original story of FF VII 1997. The exploitation of FF VII 1997 story after his release is pretty bad even if Zack was great in Crisis Core. The universe was not respected, Angeal and the monsters with his face, Genesis and his clones, the new searcher, etc... to many things which stain with FF VII 1997. Crisis Core have a good story but if you have played FF VII 1997, it's more or less a shamefull use of his story.
Imagine letting your friend stumble all the way down the hall, barely conscious and just standing there to watch
@Liz K they didnt know what was going on. Could have been a brain freeze for all they knew
Or they just looking at barret about to be shot dead in the head without doing jack shit, nevermind they can weild powerful magic and could take the gun out of presidents hand....
Hahaha yeah that shit kinda bugged me
Then he suddenly passes out and makes a cat cary him
@@LakersCP3 lol
The Whispers be like- "No Spoilers!!!"
They're like "Too soon bruh we still got another 3 chapters"
It felt more like the ghosts were going “shit fuck not shut up shit oh god why”
😂😂😂
Lmao
*Avalanche:*
A.ngry
V.ery
A.nnoyed
L.iberals
A.gainst
N.asty
C.orporations
H.urting
E.arth
Rofl
Nice one man
Ha haa
@@456skye credit goes to RABtoons
Barret: "Wha... I ah.....eh... I don't even.....eh........WHAT?!"
Hojo : "My boy, you was never a SOLDIER..."
Whisperers : "Hey shut up, he ain't need to hear that!"
Also Cloud: Shut up!
Don't talk like you know me
More like:
Whispers: Wrong time bud. You're supposed to say it in part 3 not part 1
Well, he is Zack's living Legacy.
Yea almost everything except his physical strength
Yea but the game decided to do a dumb turn where they are like "lets change destiny and see the future. Like bruh, way to (maybe) ruin the game Square.
If including Dirge of Cerberus...You will hate him..really hate him.
He can lift sephiroth tho
@@supersaiyannerd Enlighten me, but what do you mean by except his physical strength?
In case someone is wondering, the whispers take Hojo out because he is about to reveal to Cloud important things about his past that he doesn't remember, and he can't remember them right now otherwise future events will not happen as they should in the OG
I can't stand this plot contrivance. To me it just looks like the writers flexing needlessly -- deus ex machina. The whole point of writing is to smudge these things into the plot so it doesn't look like there's a conspicuous hand keeping people chained to the plot. Might as well have Tetsuya Nomura sitting in a director's chair in the same room as all of them yelling 'Ok now remove Hojo!'
@@paxton_wulgus it makes sense conceptually. Just accept the fact you’re not getting a shot for shot copy and paste story, okay? The compilation is getting fixed with added elements to expand on shit
@@alejandromomota6934 I don't really care if they change plot points throughout the story just to spice things up a bit, but the whole "defy destiny" and "fate" narrative on top of the grounded story makes everything fall over. And it's not just contradicting the original story, it also contradicts 95% of the story they told in this game alone. I loved the added moral dilemma of several Avalanche members, Barret's scene with the President, it felt like they added more to a already great story, and then this whole fate thing comes around that feels way too much like Nomura writing and ruins the consistency of the game.
@@hansyolo9649 Not to mention, technically speaking, theres no reason for Hojo to suddenly remember this about Cloud, in the original game he meets Cloud twice and not once does he remember this information, it makes no sense why he remembered in the remake, other than to put this completely pointless cutscene into the game.
@@hansyolo9649 I'm so tired of everyone going "Nomura is ruining everything" and all that BS. Nomura was the *one* higher up dev that worked on both the original and remake that wanted to keep the story the exact same. Everyone else wanted to do a new story. So enough with blaming Nomura on everything. I know it's easy to blame some guy as a boogeyman for everything but it's seriously getting rediculous at this point
Lol, is Cloud so FORGETTABLE that some people who knew him don't recognize him?
The only exception seems that other infantry who was also friend with Zack.
It's more like Hojo is so evil that he didn't really think of Cloud enough as a person to remember him as one.
Well... Hojo sees his subjects as basically meat toys.
I mean, he gave Zack a second SOLDIER treatment without even noticing that he was already a SOLDIER (which kinda defeated the purpose of experimenting with the treatment on people without the mental requirements to receive it), that tells you how much he gives a shit about people.
For everyone else... He was a random Shinra trooper, I doubt anyone who didn't work close to him (like the infantry who recognized him from military training, which tends to be a bonding experience hardly forgettable) would remember him, considering the amount of people that work for the company at the lowest levels (also the fact that he pretty much vanished for years)
Cloud *was* a legitimate failure to Hojo.
Hell, he was a failure of a soldier in general. He was only kept as a grunt due to surviving the Mako treatment the first time (hence his eyes as a grunt), but the second Mako wash poisoning him.
However, it's a miracle he can even function at all to be honest. That's why Hojo begins to take more curious interest in him as the game progressed.
Cloud was a failure in pretty much everything. He was the equivalent of a stormtrooper
1- Zack and Cloud were recovered in the incident with Sephiroth.
2- Despite Cloud being an infantry nobody, Zack and Cloud were part of the SAME EXPERIMENT. Zack being a public known true rank 1 SOLDIER who rose in ranks successfully defeating Genesis and Angeal, two POPULAR and beloved SOLDIER rank 1, and working with Sephiroth.
3- BOTH SUBJECTS ran away from lab and Shinra was so desperate to they sent a huge army after Zack.
*So even if Cloud was a nobody, all those HUGE EVENTS are big enough to make Cloud unforgettable, somehow.*
When u realize ur not the soldier but U re the main character
So you have the best gear, plot armor
I mean... yeah.
*Protagonist
METAL GEAR
@Help Me You right, it's Nagato Yuki the Alien
When you've been flexing to your crush (Tifa) that you're ex-SOLDIER, but you're really just a Mako overdose lab rat with a fucked memory and PTSD. Feelsbadman...
What's even more sad is Tifa knew all along Cloud was not a SOLDIER
That's basically what a SOLDIER is anyway
@@GreatGrandmasterWang she did*? Idk all the lore
@Regulios oh man. My bad. I don't wanna spoil the story for you guys. Its better if you wait for the 2nd part or play the original
@Regulios Play the Original. She already knew after escaping midgard to the small town where cloud tells his story.
Give Cloud some credit, he survives to Hojo's experiments.
The issue was that, really, the experiments at first seemed to do nothing to either Zack or Cloud except give Cloud severe mako poisoning. It was so bad that Hojo deemed him a failure compared to the other clones, which as we know are barely able to function as it is.
@@rosesweetcharlotte what do you mean they appear to do nothing?
Where hojo experiments really that bad?
@@myoldchannel0 Did you even look at the other Sephiroth clones, what Sephiroth can do, or consider how fucked up in the head cloud is because of them?
@@myoldchannel0 If you read the notes scattered around the lab in Crisis Core or the OG game, it says that the injection of Jenovah cells doesn't initially do anything for Cloud and the mako injections just make him catatonic.
And while we have very little idea of what the experiments were really like, the look of the labs and Hojo's general disregard for human life don't pick a pretty picture.
Cloud's PTSD in this game is amazing..
I still hate Hojo. So much. Literally so much.
Same. He catpured Genesis to use him for his experiments, he's the one responsible of Zack's death, and he's directly linked to the experiments made on Angeal and Sephiroth. Enough to make me hate him. I was hoping to see him die in this remake, it would have been kind of a vengeance
Yep the 2nd rate scientist who fucks everything up
hojo died killed by vincent valentine right?
Don't forget that even death doesn't stop hojo. Remember he comes back in dirge of Cerberus.
Dartagnan James I feel you
Oh god poor Cloud, my boy can't live without remembering the past.
@Kosename The most tragic of all ff protagonist actually
@@whatthe9256 and the "funny" thing is that he didn't even realize it for so much time.
We all know that tho. He claimed the title after Zack Died . Honorary Soldier
I mean with sep and Zack presumed dead cloud is not lying being solider 1st class
He is the only known solider.
@@slutwagon4270 hes never been a soldier, he was a regular infantrymen. Reason why he thinks he is a soldier is because his memory is all messed up and he pretty much thinks he is zack.
@@colinrader6307 but its not lying he has the abilities of solider and the only solider alive
Sep is dead when he fell into the mako stream the opponent you are seen fighting the crew is jenova he is only alive when cloud has a final stand where you can do any type of damage and kill him since he wasint that strong from the start cloud grew into a fine solider worthy of 1st class
@@colinrader6307 and he was acknowledged by ruffus of being a first class solider in advent children
@@slutwagon4270 but this isn't advent children and I never said he couldn't be one. He definitely has the ability but he just never made it as soldier. Thats why hojo said he was never a soldier. Also a reason why when he went back to nibelheim with sephy and Zack but he kept his helmet on because he was too embarrassed to be seen as anything but a soldier. Cloud even admits it later on in the story when his memory shattered and Tifa had to help him piece it together. But you are right, he does have the ability to be one. Even Zack says it in crisis core I believe. He said he would have made it if he wasn't so timid
we aint gonna talk about how those robots have lightsabers on their hands 6:45
Duel of the Fates intensifies
Jedi gundams
Dude when I played this I literally screamed that hojo is a star wars fan
they are clearly oversized deathsticks
Thats what i was saying when i saw it when playing this.
Whispers: "NO SPOILERS!!!"
hmmm wish they remade those crisis core scenes
They're not in the game they've been edited by this RUclipsr
this is to show you what they were referencing, its not in the game, its just someone doing the hard work so that we don't have to piece it together ourselves.
Hopefully they leave crisis core out of this kingdom hearts bs.
InstiGator doubt they will. Since they are the creators, they can do what they want with the story
Kevin Nguyen I’m sure it’ll be in the 2nd chapter
One thing I have never understood, how can they fly with one wing?
just like superman he dont have any and he is doing a fine job at it
Sephiroth flies without a wing as well so the wing is probably mostly for show
@@BlueFang714 gotta have that edgy
It's a fantasy, you don't have to think logically
Robert Gittings in a world where Materia can be used for superpower moves and summoning huge ass mystical creatures like bahemut, Shiva, and Ifirit, and a planet where a corporation harvest a spiritual energy from the planet to power the city, and your only concern is how a superhuman born from spicing 1000 year old DNA of an ancient alien race into his DNA, can fly with one wing... 🤔 I think there are bigger questions to be asked here
The fact that Cloud and not Zack killed Sephiroth pre being exposed to Jenova's cells and overly exposed to Mako (He was exposed a bit during his first skirmish with Sephiroth) but also before killing him out strengthen Sephiroth WITH the latter's Masamune straight through his gut. This GIVES an HONORARY and over rank of SOLDIER 1st Class to Cloud. He may had not been in SOLDIER officially, and obviously not 1st class, but he definitely earned it, and also the fact he once again Killed Sephiroth at the End of FFVII also solidifies his status, and even in ADVENT CHILDREN lol. Cloud IS and WAS Soldier 1st class :)
It is implied he has passed physical examination to become a SOLDIER but failed some mental and psychological tests. Before Cloud had his more severe mental problems, he was plagued by inferiority and guilt-ridden complex that I think hindered his performance hence why SOLDIER refused to allow him to join.
Thats not how it works man.
You can give a child a knife and let him stab sephiroth, but in the end he is still a child not a soldier.
Just because someone killed a boss by chance does not gives him the qualification to become strong
@@hamizanyunos1502 You're right. Most people don't realize that this is what makes Cloud the character he is. He is a functional character with some mental disorders.
@@ionmeth2031 is just bullshit qualification that all it means is your a puppet that does what shinra says there is nothing to be proud about being a soldier lmao reality cloud didnt pass whatever test probably he didn’t qualify to be easily controlled and become a puppet of shinra as the others so they disregarded him
@@ionmeth2031 Did you see how he picked him up and threw him even though he was being stabbed?
Nah he still thinks he’s a soldier
Yeah, he didn't hear the whole thing
Yea until few adventures later
He do a soldier but not first class
@@gustianantonn he was an Infantryman back then. he couldn't make it into SOLDIER
he is basically a grunt
I like how Hojo at first instead asking what the hell are those said "fascinating phenomenon".xD
=w= I thought it was a legit cutscene until I realized those are from CC
this is in the remake you know... legit...
it has some scenes from CC, IDK does the remake have those CC scenes? Why didn't they remaster giving a hint to the next remaster DLC for FF7.
Hold up- deadass?
Imagine discovering you never been SOLIDER.
So what did he do all that time?
he is a SOLDIER just not 1st class soldier
@@billytringuyen1 nope
@@billytringuyen1 He was never any class of SOLDIER, just part of the regular Shinra infantry.
@@billytringuyen1 cloud is a infantryman
Cloud was bullied as a kid for being weak. He left his village to become a SOLDIER to prove himself, but ended up a nobody foot soldier. He was ashamed and never returned (until the Nibelheim incident in which he hid his identity from everyone). He never told anyone in the village about his actual job including his mother and Tifa. I suspect he even lied to his mother that he's actually a SOLDIER. He fantasized a lot about being SOLDIER... more specifically, about being Zack; his close friend who is an actual SOLDIER. Zack talk to Cloud a lot about his experience as a SOLDIER (i guess because Cloud was very into it), feeding Cloud's fantasy to the point of obsession. The Hojo's experiment screw up Cloud's mind pushing him over the cliff and completely adopted his fantasies as reality. That's how Cloud's memory some times replaced with Zack's. He remember his childhood fine, but everything after he left the village and SOLDIER related, he took Zack's place.
Kinda right, but slightly off. Cloud didn't have a fantasy obsession, he was rather depressed about not being SOLDIER but was trying to accept it. When Zack and Sephiroth arrived at Nibelheim, Cloud had actually decided to come clean about it, even invited Zack to come meet his mother with him so he'd have some support for it. However he got badly injured trying to protect Tifa from a mako corrupted monster ambush and was unconscious up until the night of the Incident.
After the experiment, Cloud's mental barriers were messed up, especially with him in a barely there coma. JENOVA has a trait that allowed it to invade the minds of people who saw it, read their memories and appear in the form of something that would be the same species, friendly and relatable to the target as a self defence mechanism. This property was messing with Cloud's psyche as he was fused with the cells.
During their attempt to reach Midgard, Zack made the mistake of telling the barely aware Cloud all of the stories of his past to pass the time on the long hitchhiking rides. Zack was then fatally injured and left for dead outside Midgard (the soldiers left Cloud since he was still in a coma and would die from starvation if left alone). He luckily managed to wake up, only to find Zack's dying body. Zack made another mistake, telling Cloud to take up his sword and calling him "My Living Legacy". Cloud then saw his best friend die in front of him. In his barely still aware state, Cloud's JENOVA muddled subconscious took the concept and rewrote his memories, so that he would become the legacy that he was left. As long as Cloud lived, the memories of Zack would live on as he would effectively become Zack.
Seyha Leonhartz no he didnt lie he just choose not to contact them,rather than to lie let then assume he is still in training to be a soldier despite didnt make the cut. He is not the type of telling lies as he suffered memory loss as we all knew and reliving as the memory of zack thats why aerith said i know u love me but it isnt real, what she meant the feeling isnt his but from zack’s memories
@@renosephiroth316 that make sense
he kinda took over zack's persona due to the trauma of his death as well. Not just because he is really mentally ill that he wants to be someone else
I agree with all of you who comments
Thats rare that in a comment section in FF7 we are all agreeing
Cloud is a depressive teen emo
Cloud took Zacks legacy and dream
And cloud is still traumatised from it
I suppose that
Tifa will try to snap him in that zackish
Phase
And i think that zack will get a new solo game
Then he will come to The next of FF7:REMAKE 2
He is worthy of the angeal sword. Of course he is a soldier.
He was never a soldier. Zack was the 1st class soldier.
@@eldirtyfaygo5395 yes but he is skilled with the buster sword made him worthy of 1st class soldier.
@@Frozeyaourt Yes because Zack was already infused with Mako since he is a SOLDIER. Cloud never made soldier so he never had Mako infusion. He wasn't enhanced whatsoever. It was pure rage that allowed him to pick up Sephiroth and kill him. But if u look back to Before Crisis, Cloud already had great sword skills.
I don't like cloud
But sephiroth said that cloud has
A SOLDIER capabilities
But his feelings make him
Weak and they unqualified him for that
I think when zack died
And cloud impersonating zack
He make a shield in his mind
Like to psychologically protect him
(Because yes after 5 yrs of coma and experiments he became half crazy)
Cloud thinks he is a 1st class soldier
Basically
He copy past zack of everything he knows about him
He got so brainwashed that he thinks he is Zack aside of like he doesn't know him
He is a depressive teen emo
Which is the opposite of zack
Who is a man
More mature
More open
And who really know
Who he is
A man who got a bit of power
And who promised
His love(aerith) that he will soon return from war
He knows the value of the buster sword
Its history
What it really signifies
@@eldirtyfaygo5395 In Zack's case doesn't matter if he was SOLDIER or not, "It's what's in here (Heart) counts".
Some people believe that he has zacks memory or he only remembers one side of the story. It isn’t as simple as that. Cloud had jenova cells in him and according to the ultimania translation clouds jenova cells copied all of zacks traits and memories near perfectly. Basically cloud became a mental doppleganger of zack with his skills with the buster sword.
Yikes
@@caelestisnox7045 what?
You figured ppl would realize that by now lol he just saw memories from Zack eyes
When you told everyone you met that you are ex-soldier then you realize you never been soldier
@@ThePresentation010 also strongest of all soldier aside from sepiroth at that
@@whatthe9256 big nopee
@@whatthe9256 no brother he was always weak in 1x1 loses to the villain
@@whatthe9256 zack is way stronger because of dmw
@@lafranhudo what? He 1v1 Sephiroth at the end of OG FF7, also 1v1 Sephiroth at the end of Advent Children, killed him both times.
What the fuck are you talking about? He's the strongest "SOLDIER", just below sephiroth 🤷
Not just the root cause of everything that happens in Final Fantasy 7 and a most despicable man, but also a very incompetent scientist with a very inflated sense of his abilities...ever since he murdered Gast (who was the real "brain" of this operation) all he does is screw his employer over and over with repetitive failed experiments, until they got the president killed and the company ruined!
He's legitimately charismatic when he needs to be. The babes at Costa del Sol, Lucrecia and concepting Sephiroth, even how he discusses his methods at the meeting.
The truly horrifying thing about Hojo is how manipulative he really is, and not even the players catch that off the bat.
I mean, even at the meeting, after the others talk about torturing Aerith to get her to do what they want, everyone shuts up and looks really uncomfortable when they hear just what Hojo has planned for her.
I figured it out in that first shinra meeting when playing the orignal ff7 the others all just pawns so he can do his experiments and as soon as he doesnt need them things are goingnto get ugly and boy did the end of disk 2 prove me right!
I agree, this dudes taken every opportunity given and ran with it.
I mean he probably engineered some kind of pheromone to make women like him. Dude is ugly AF
I assure you, many people who played the original FFVII in the late 90s knew that Hojo was a snake from the get-go. Instant mad scientist vibes...
I love how whenever Cloud’s mind shuts itself out, it immediately flashbacks to Crisis Core.
Seeing his past through the eyes of another, of one Zack Fair.
Hojo: what is this?
Barret: a dozen bullets in your head
Also Barret: aims at shoulder
Considering how much recoil that thing should have after the first few bullets the rest would end up in his head unless the raw power of the gating gun ripped his head off
Jenova probably gets so many Mother's day cards, considering how children she has, but we all know Sephiroth is her favorite.
nobody talkin about how he missed the chest at 0:03
Can't wait to see this dude in Costa Del Sol with all them chicks around him.
Knowing SE, they probably won't even include that bit :/
Actually they made Hojo attractive enough XD the scene is gonna be curious.
@@GilgaMax305 they actually did lmao
“Cloud realizes he was a nerd all along”
That explains why in the original ff7, Tifa pretended to not know Zack. In Crisis Core she was also wondering why Zack and Sephiroth were the only ones that made it to first class. She was trying to stop Cloud from knowing the truth in the original about this, so she wouldn't crush his dreams.
Reminder that in japanese, hojo is voiced by Kefka and yoshikage kira's dad
No supirse there
Fuck kefka
That's even better when you realize that Cloud is Rohan and Sephiroth is Kira Yoshikage
@@generic749 Sephiroth's gonna _Bite The Dust_ Cloud then...
Don't care
Interesting that hojo looks more disgruntled in the remake and the choose to tint his glasses was interesting
So basically after Zach died cloud made a persona of where he lived zachs life
Jenova manipulated his memory
The experiment and traumatic events gave him selective amnesia. He forgot about zack, and him being grunt soldier, yet he remembers the soldier stories zack told him plus he was there during the nibelheim incident, and when he came to his senses he has the soldier first class uniform, the buster sword, mako eyes and some soldier experience stories. His brain assumed he was that soldier with a buster sword.
doesnt matter cloud soldier or not, cloud is cloud, u dont have to be soldier to fight, u just do cloud
So that's why cloud is unconscious. while Zack is dragging him and protecting cloud while he's still unconscious.
And you start the game at lvl 7
@@anacc9261 don't you start at 7
@@LowIntSpecimen yes, thanks
Well if not from the "Interruption" from Sephiroth, nothing says that he doesn't eventually become one.
Sephiroth didnt interrupt hojo it was the whispers stopping hojo from revealing the truth before it was meant to be
I think he's talking about Cloud becoming a SOLDIER
@@darkfire_0579 Spoilers
Cloud never becomes a SOLDIER
Idk i thought he was talking about if the nibleheim incedent didnt occur then he would have possibly made it to SOLDIER rank
@@darkfire_0579 Yes that's what I'm saying
Actually he didnt found out due the interuption in his mind but his friends knows that now cloud didnt hear what hojo was saying
Tifa and probably Aerith already knew that he wasn't in SOLDIER.
Carly Crays tifa always knew
Neither Tifa not Aerith knew, they only had a suspicion that he was putting on some sort of facade and wasn't being true to himself. Tifa didn't find out til her and Cloud were in the lifestream together
Tifa did know something was wrong though. Since Cloud appeared at Midgar, disheveled, with a new demeanor and personality, later telling her about about a memory about Nibelheim being destroyed in great detail. Which confused Tifa, because she was there when that happened and she didn't see him at all. She thought he had some type of mental trauma or PTSD, probably from, what she imagined was the Mako treatments SOLDIERS receive, and she was afraid to ask him about it out of fear of causing him a mental breakdown.
@@Zerohopexe this guy know the lore
The real tragedy of Cloud is that he literally men’t nothing. He was such a nothing that he lived off of someone else’s memory, Zack.
But wasn't the point of his relationship with Zack that even if Cloud thought he was nothing, Zack thought he was worth sacrificing himself for?
Well he did pick sephiroth up with' the blade of massamune and "kill" him after he was impaled on it. So I wouldn't say he was nothing but after hojo's experiments he was pretty much brain dead
Cloud never had Zack's memories. Their demeanor isn't even similar, he just took some cues from Zack and acted how he thought SOLDIERs should act. He remembers his childhood and everything.
Carly Crays As long as you have at least one person who thinks this, you aren’t nothing. I think that’s what they were going for
Oliver Davis Cloud become a someone when he teamed up with Avalanche. I think he made his own way after a certain point
Not sure how I feel about the Jenova redesign. Felt that the pale decomposed corpse looked creepier than the old molded and decomposed design in this remake. Everything else looks good though.
Ohh. My God. Zacks death Really hit me hard!! I cried until I couldn't cry any more.
Cloud is not officialy a soldier, he becomes soldier to embrace Zack's honor and dreams
*That's my boy😗*
It doesn't matter ...he does more than a soldier can do..and his true goal is to be strong like Sephiroth ...he just thought if he become soldier he could be strong as Sephiroth...
I want to straighten up your points here, but it's a major spoiler. So i won't tell anything
@@supersaiyannerd haha .I know his main goal and also the reason why he wants to be strong as sephirot...he wants to.......so u don't really need to straight it up ..I don't want to spoil too much too...
3:24 i wonder what brand of lotion hojo uses coz his hands are quite smooth and silky 😉😉😉.
Cloud might never have been able to become a SOLDIER, but he is already a SOLDIER at heart 💕
When this happened I felt very angry and betrayed. Well so much for that plot twist.
"Thanks for saving Marlene! I owe you one-"
"save it for later :/"
A test subject of Project J.
A new birth of Project Jenova.
A perfect monster like Sephiroth who called him "Brother".
Hes an offspring of Jenova.
This is so significant that he learns this earlier.
The ripples this will have throughout the story are insane
Cloud clearly didn't heard what Hojo said about him not being a SOLDIER because his mind denied it like we can see. Also Tifa and Barett who heard it probably think that Hojo only lied and said bulshit, this is why they didn't question Cloud after that. Also if we don't put subtitles it is hard to understand what Hojo said so it is only a revelation for players who don't know the story and have good earing. Also later in the game we meet the son of Shinra and he have a chat with Cloud and we can cleary see that Cloud see himself as a SOLDIER.
Tifa likely doesn't fully believe that Cloud was in SOLDIER and Aerith probably doesn't either. But that isn't because of what Hojo said.
@@rosesweetcharlotte well. Aerith only met one soldier in her life. She never been that sure
@@kaedehara_kazuh4 Aerith is implied to know the future. And she seems very aware that Cloud isn't right in the head.
@@rosesweetcharlotte So they don't confront Cloud about that fact because they sense something is wrong ? Why Barett doesn't confront Cloud then about what Hojo said. This is what I can't fully explained to myself. I agree that Aerith and Tifa know that Cloud is probably very fragile so maybe this is why they say nothing.
tifa knows that cloud is not right in the head but is afraid of what might happen to him if she confronts him about it
still amazes me how tifa was already fine af and the remake made her even better wtf
Actually Cloud didn't realised that in the events of FF7 Remake, not until the middle of the game in the original version.
some of the things here were edited dont worry. He still thinks he was in soldier.
I’ve only played FF7 remake so this scene kinda confused me. The first time I played this part, I was wondering where Cloud got his abilities from.
Midgar is basically the appetizer of FFVII. Would have been disappointing if new players guessed everything instantly even if, there’s already too many spoilers in this first part.
@Brick and Alejandro Nation cloud gain his soldier abilities from the experiments they did on him right??? So even if he wasn’t in the soldier program he basically is a soldier
Cloud was never a SOLDIER but he did went through the procedure of becoming one.
*President Shinra:* "Why do you have the headless body of an alien woman in your lab!?!"
*Hojo:* "Because (cue creepy giggles)... THIS. IS. MY. FETISH!!!"
Kinda hoping they'll officially make Vincent Valentine the biological father of Sephiroth with this remake ..
I mean come on Square Enix who are you kidding...
Expect us to believe Hojo's genes can produce someone like Sephiroth ?
What's the math in that?
50% Lucrecia Crecent
49%Jenova
1%Hojo ??
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit..
Hojo in this game is so repulsive that I simply can't imagine a woman willingly sleeping with him.
@@rosesweetcharlotte Exactly..
@@rosesweetcharlotte no worries he already sleeping with his experiments all the time. I mean, those fucked up monsters he made.
Well thinking hojos gene are one inside sephiroth makes me wanna puke. Haha sounds hilarious too
Won't happen, Hojo is still Sephiroth's father lol
Not happening and Lucrecia don't escape blame from this
Im sure if Zack was still alive, he wouldve made cloud soldier but since he died. Hes gotta live thru all this bs. But I wonder what weapon cloud would have if zack was still around
Probably dual stance like his fusion sword
Given Cloud beat Sepiroth he's pretty much THE SOLDIER as far as I'm concerned.
The throwbacks in this game is incredible. Not only does it appeal a lot to die hard fans but it filled me in on some of the story just in a couple of shots.
PixelBrosProduction1 you do know its edited right? The uploader edits his vids this way. Its such a good touch by the way.
@@jonel995 That explains the change in graphics quality. I thought it was to emphasize the fact that it was from the past.
LMAO
@@spencersonnefeld Why are you watching spoilers when you haven't played the game? That will only cause you to misunderstand the entire story.
@@howardlam6181 because I'm not quite invested enough to care about spoilers.
Someone told me that in Japanese Hojo doesn't get to tell Cloud he wasn't a soldier, the whispers take him before he gets a chance to say it.
Does someone know if this is true or not?
I'm pretty sure in my English version that scene didn't happen.
actually he hints at that in the remake, but Cloud probably didn't understand completely what was going on.
This is not the part in which he understands he is not a SOLDIER, but is the part in which he start sowing dubts...
Cloud was in SOLDIER. he wasn’t a first class SOLDIER like Zack or Sephiroth. While they raid Shinra HQ Cloud can bump into a guy he went bootcamp with. He was a SOLDIER.
SPOILERS FOR THE FF7
Hojo injected him with Jenova cells and he’s a failed Sephiroth clone. So Hojo abandoned him.
SOLDIER is special unit of supersoldiers. Only best of the best are chosen and they receive Mako radiation and tissue transplant from Jenova. As result they are superhuman. Part about tissue transplants is kept secret. Cloud never qualified beyond basic Shinra soldier. His physical traits common to SOLDIERs are result of Hojo running some of his own experiments on him. Those left him physical traits indistinguishable from SOLDIERs.
I personally think guy in Shinra building is one who was part of four man unit lead by Sephiroth to kill monsters in Nibel Mountains.
Reno laughs when you tell him your soilder because be knows soilder
Lol, and I quote: "Ha! More like a first class asshole"
“Mother….I have come for you……mother together we will reclaim our world…..mother they have come again” Hearing Sephiroth say that line again gave me chills can’t wait to see it in part 2
Too bad he has a bad VA
Hojo is a monster
He's more than that.
Thats called " Mad scientist "
Cloud: but will they get here in time to save you from ME?
Me: 'pops every single finger, takes a chug from her soda and grabs the controller' let's do this.
Why doesn't Barrett be a bit suspicious about Cloud after this scene?
Who here actually played it for ps1 ?
I played it round a friend's house for the first time. I think he had one of those really good PS1s with the high-quality audio. I dimly recall having to muck about with discs on my PS2, so I think he might have lent his copy to me at one point. And then I later downloaded it on PS3 and beat it again. And somewhere in between all that, I got a beat-up second hand PSP that my friend "Don Corneo" hacked for me so I could play a pirated memorycard version of Crisis Core (that he just happened to have and was totally a backup ROM of a real copy he had bought.)
A FF7 experience for every playstation barring the Vita. That's what I'll have, once I contrive a way to play FF7 Remake.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 lol
Does the switch port count, I mean, it’s the same graphics and gameplay
jean cedeno played it in 2000 with a hand me down ps1 with a broken lid that I had to rubberband to play games, and Jesus Christ this game was so fucking great, still is
I played the game and pretty sure i alrd uncover all the things and side stories that spread in all walkthrough, also 100% inventory slot
Cloud was never actually in soldier but he was in the army. Cloud had the same jenova cells in him as the other soldiers.
Colin also mako infused
Cloud is not a Soldier.
He's a One Man Army.
SOLDIER is just a title after all... He is a trained warrior thats what matters
It is also a set of nifty Mako and Jenova powers, such as the ability to swing a 50 kg sword... which Cloud has anyway
Not really considering all SOLDIER are mako enhanced literally making them all superhuman
Well either way, Cloud can summon all kind of shet
@@Rookie_06 everybody on gaia can cast all those too its a materia, a tool everybody can use
@@Rookie_06 Every SOLDIER 1st Class are Elite One-Man Army. Only Few would Reach 1st class. Master both Magic & Weapon, with Superhuman feats and durability (can even take hit direct to the face "Angael"). can beat Summons like Ifrit, Bahamoth, Bahamoth-Fury Single handedly.
Compared to Cloud, he is not a One-Man Army.
Zack just died due to the Plot and Cloud's character development. Hojo is the main villain in FFVii root of problem Vii's plot.
Guess that kinda explains why Sephiroth had such interests in Cloud.
Where is everyone getting cloud was injected with jenova it doesn’t say that in this game
You forget that this release is just the first part of the entire game.
Sweet summer child, if you don't want to be spoiled, leave now.
No. Not in this game. I also question the same as you. But after I watch more about crisis core and advent children, my questions has been answered. Maybe I suggest you also need to watch crisis core and advent children too to satisfy your curiosity
Go play the original game, you would know the truth
Final Fantasy crisis core a psp game. It prequel to ff7
Where is Kunsel in this video?
Cloud bamboozled his identity, right after Zack died. You know, the real Soldier.
Me: **types "Cloud gets ignored" in the search bar (trying to find the scene in FF7R where the Avalanche crew are drinking without him in the bar)**
RUclips:
I loved the remake but it’s a shame they knocked out so much suspense out the game by revealing really key details so early.
At the same time I love the direction they are taking the game!
apparently this was a translation error and he didn't get to reveal this in the japanese version and was cut off early. that information really restores some faith into part 2 for me
Well I mean these are things that are well known in pop culture so it's best to get them out of the way
Tifa looks sooooooo good outside the polygon world of PSone, wow this game maybe worth it just to see her.
I didn’t remember Cloud not actually being Soldier. He was more of a Special Project than mere Soldier.
Clouds history and such honestly confuses me
The boy Who was never soldier became the most powerful warrior , the only one Who can beat sephirot, angeal tried, zack tried and failed
No one talking about how those robots straight up pull out lighsabers?!?
Hey Cloud, at least it's not like in the former United States where the other soldiers bitch at everyone about you not being a soldier until you get arrested for stolen valor.
Cloud is already a Planetologist terrorist. If he's arrested, stolen valor would be the least of his problems.
Man why do I feel like Jeff Goldblum can play a mean Hojo?
Forget everything else in this video, this is the only important take away
Cloud is soldier, he was considered a soldier by the Top members of soldier first class Also he defeated sepherioth. By system hes not soldier but by honor he’s definitely soldier angel would say cloud is soldier
5:05 if voldemort had hair
Whispers: *HEY, DON'T CHANGE THE FUCKING SCRIPT!*
Even though Cloud wasn't a soldier at first but considering the fact that now he has the power of the soldier to me he is a soldier just in a different way.
lol Cloud saying “Mother” like Dante in DMC1 and then passing out on the floor.