The History of Mesa Boogie

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @fivewattworld
    @fivewattworld 3 года назад +22

    Great job John. I can't think of anyone I know that is better suited to putting this together.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +8

      I can. Awaiting yours!!!

    • @JB_Eckl
      @JB_Eckl 3 года назад +3

      John bought you some time, but you know you have to do it soon right?

    • @ChadWork1
      @ChadWork1 3 года назад +1

      I'd love Keith to make a proper "Short History" of Mesa amps, or at least the Mark series. One that's all killer and no filler, and not very short!

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      @@ChadWork1 it's coming Chad, I won't let him not do it...

  • @JB_Eckl
    @JB_Eckl 3 года назад +9

    Once you start down the Boogie path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

  • @MarinerEarendil
    @MarinerEarendil 3 года назад +5

    I think the "boogie" came from a comment Santana made after playing one of the prototypes

  • @JJ-fb8sz
    @JJ-fb8sz 3 года назад +2

    You are such a tasteful player! Thanks for highlighting the clean side of Mesa. I avoided Mesas for years because if the high gain reputation. I traded into a Fillmore 50 and it is blackface heaven. I got rid of a Deluxe Reverb to get it, and I'm so happy with it (Fillmore). Thanks for a great video!

  • @wideband
    @wideband 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this, I just picked up a 1982 Mesa Boogie D-180 Bass Head and oh man it was exactly what I needed. Wanted to learn a little about the company and your video was the first to pop up.

    • @wideband
      @wideband 3 года назад +1

      For reference I picked it up for bass even though it does both. Paired it with a 1980 Music Man 412-B cab.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад

      Beautiful!!

  • @azzazelo
    @azzazelo 3 года назад +7

    Mesa "we wanna move away from metal", vht/fryette "we wanna move away from metal", Marshall "we wanna make headphones and Bluetooth".... EVH "HOLD MY BEER"

    • @masonkertson9774
      @masonkertson9774 8 месяцев назад

      What about peavey? (I know the original 5150’s were made by peavey)

    • @azzazelo
      @azzazelo 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@masonkertson9774 peavey, "we had fun with metal but now just want to make stuff that breaks within the week in China"

  • @vaibhavjoshi9141
    @vaibhavjoshi9141 3 года назад +4

    A Mesa Boogie addiction must be pricey over there in the UK, John!
    Hope you got great deals on the amps.. lovely playing as always.
    You're correct with the Dumble comparison, both use cascading gain and have a palette of great clean/dirty sounds.
    This is also one of the reasons that Mesa and Dumble style amps apparently work great for low volume/ bedroom playing.

  • @LeonTodd
    @LeonTodd 3 года назад +2

    Boogie's rack stuff is top tier too. Studio Pre, Quad, Triaxis et. al, along with the stereo power amps. The V-Twin pedal is nifty too.
    The Blue Angel and Electradyne sound so sweet in these clips! Boogie cleans are the bomb.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      I've got the V Twin here actually, need to do something with that!
      I've never tried any of the rack stuff but you make me jealous of it, obviously!!

    • @LeonTodd
      @LeonTodd 3 года назад +1

      @@johnnathancordy I had a mate who's entire live rig was a LP Custom - V-Twin pedal - VHT power amp - 2 4x12's. Absolutely massive. Awaiting your V-Twin vid now!

  • @jeremyhickersonsalem
    @jeremyhickersonsalem 3 года назад +1

    great video! And since Rhett already said he wasn't really a Mesa guy, you're the perfect one to do it!

  • @ksharpe10
    @ksharpe10 Год назад

    That electro dyne was Gorgeous sounding, most excellent in the hands of the accomplished John Cordy.

  • @freehey629
    @freehey629 3 года назад +5

    I like those old Mark ii/iiis. They look like old timey chairs.

    • @masonkertson9774
      @masonkertson9774 8 месяцев назад

      They’re so stylish, and sleek but vintage looking. Like an old corvette or ford. I like the modern design for boogies, don’t get me wrong… but dayumn the original design with the single row of hat knobs, and the eq are just perfect. I wish they still made the mark series in that design. Especially in the Jp-2c

  • @gregcameron5079
    @gregcameron5079 Год назад

    my first knowledge of the Boogies was Santana followed by Keith Richards, wanted one for years, bought a Mesa. Exoress 5;50 plus several years ago, which is a fantastic amp and just bought a Mark Five this year, it exceeds all my expectations. Amazing products from an amazing company.

  • @gerrydaly5409
    @gerrydaly5409 3 года назад +1

    Great video - I also own a MKIII, bought it as I’m a big Nick McCabe and John Squire fan. The clean channel with a Fender Stratocaster and pull deep enabled gets me the most amazing clean tone...

  • @dan_perry
    @dan_perry 3 года назад +2

    I've owned my fully loaded MKIII since '89. In that time, I've never felt I needed anything else...it can do it all for me.

  • @pedalhead2641
    @pedalhead2641 3 года назад

    Great video. My TA-15 is my first Mesa Boogie and has me totally hooked. Someday I will get a Cali Tweed.

  • @cliverkay
    @cliverkay 3 года назад +4

    The story I heard was the company was formed in Costa Mesa in Orange County south of LA hence the Mesa name and that when Carlos heard the amp he said the words " Boy that amp Boogies " and that's how it got that part of it's name . I have had a few in my time ending with a Mk 4 . Got rid of it not for the sound, but the weight !! Couldn't get it around to gigs as it weighted a ton . Other problems with the amps are that if it goes wrong it is a nightmare to service due to the complexity ! Nice though !!

    • @tomasjones3755
      @tomasjones3755 3 года назад +2

      I grew up in Los Angeles and that was the story; back then. As to favs, Mark 1 or Mark III; please.

    • @vncstudio
      @vncstudio 3 года назад +1

      The first Princeton Boogies were created when Randall Smith worked at Prune Music in Mill Valley. The Mesa name comes from his engineering business of rebuilding Mercedes engines. www.mesaboogie.com/about/randalls-story.html

    • @Deep_Jimpact
      @Deep_Jimpact 3 года назад

      @@vncstudio no you’re thinking of star wars

    • @Deep_Jimpact
      @Deep_Jimpact 3 года назад

      @@tomasjones3755 no you’re thinking of star wars

    • @BellaPlaysMC101
      @BellaPlaysMC101 Год назад

      That is correct. Here is the creator of Mesa/Boogie himself...Randall Smith.
      ruclips.net/video/vwmyIuY21TI/видео.html

  • @robertbossart
    @robertbossart 3 года назад +1

    Great Amp, have exactly this model, the MK3 in hardwood, SimulClass, Graphic EQ and an EV12 speaker. It's exactly what you explained, much more than the heavy sound. More in the style of a Dumble.It's a much underrated amp. Maybe the prices will go up now …

  • @Spidouz
    @Spidouz 3 года назад +1

    2:47 As much as I love Mesa Boogie, they’re not considered as “boutique” anymore. Boutique generally means built by a company with limited number of employees (like less than 10), doing products direct to the end customer; it can also imply to do on-demand product, either by tailoring to the end user requests or by only producing products once they’re order, making them one at the time. So as soon as the company grows and involves more employees, more process, production made outside of company, less customer inputs in the product design, making similar products based on a specific design model, and going through retailers, it can’t be considered as “boutique”. For instance, all companies such Friedman, Wampler, 65Amps, and such are NOT boutique anymore since they’re built in a sub-contractor facility (ironically called Boutique Amps). Amps such Dr.Z, Mesa are still made in a small company, but they’re not taking special orders on demand, they’re developing THEIR product, they’re design it in THEIR way, so they’re not really boutique anymore... But be assured that it doesn’t mean products are bad if they’re mass produced on a specific unchangeable model. We use computers, smartphones and plenty of other products that are not boutique and yet, still VERY good, including to make music. My 2¢

  • @Burst006
    @Burst006 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Totally agree. When I think « Mesa Boogie Sound », I think early Eric Johnson, Carlton, Robben, Santana, which all used Mesas before using Dumbles, and of course Andy Timmons. Fendery cleans avec thick lead channel. It’s ashame that their are mostly know for the Hi-gain stuff. I also hear a lot that they are too complex, they have too much knobs and switches. Maybe some do like the mark V, but, to me, 2 channels amps are not necessarily complex, just versatiles! Ok, I’m partial, I love boogies!

  • @williamsanderson9279
    @williamsanderson9279 3 года назад +1

    Nice recall of the Mesa amps with some tasty playing to boot!

  • @CamiloVelandia
    @CamiloVelandia 3 года назад +2

    Great playing!!

  • @justinTime077
    @justinTime077 2 года назад +1

    I’m a Mesa Boogie fan as well. We definitely don’t say ‘boog-ee’ here in the states ;D
    I pronounce it ‘Mésa buhgee’ but that’s varied. Glad you like these amps as much as I do. They’re so powerful, versatile, oooh I love my Triple Rectifier!!!

  • @samseguin3690
    @samseguin3690 3 года назад +1

    Nice! Now I’m inspired to mess with the Mark IV on my Helix. Gonna go and creat a preset to see what comes out!

  • @Mojojojoe
    @Mojojojoe 3 года назад +2

    When I saw the thumbnail and the title I thought my RUclips app was playing up, showing the uploader as Johnnathancordy, not five watt world lol

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад

      This is just a primer. Keith will do the proper job very soon!

  • @Angus.Maclean
    @Angus.Maclean 3 года назад +2

    Haha, I was thinking as I clicked you were stepping on Keith's toes and there's the shirt!

  • @jakollee
    @jakollee 3 года назад +3

    First time I saw a Mesa Boogie (early 1980s), I walked into a NYC club and heard a really huge guitar sound. I walked up near the stage to see what the guitarist was playing through, and saw this little 1-12 combo - I couldn't believe that all that sound was coming from such a small amp! I enjoyed this history lesson, and your playing/sound.

    • @Jam_Gordon
      @Jam_Gordon 3 года назад +1

      Had a similar experience at a local gig last year. Guys tone was massive and I wasn't surprised when I saw that he was going through a 5:25

  • @Art-zs6sl
    @Art-zs6sl 3 года назад

    IME the Mark five is very focused, each of the 9 tones has a certain space it sits. It's good if you know what you want. Put that in contrast to the Mark IV I own and the difference is clear. It has a warmer, vintage vibe in the sense it's so smooth. It also seems to have much more musical range per tone, but less focused. Would really like a IIC or a III. Thanks for the awesome history and playing. And nice humor about the Mesa name!

  • @shane17thsun
    @shane17thsun 3 года назад +2

    I sold my 20th Anniversary Bogner Shiva after getting the Electra Dyne. The Mesa did what the Shiva did but much better IMO,

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад

      Oh for real? That's cool to hear - i think the electra dyne is a bit of a secret of the Mesa world

  • @paulcaton7093
    @paulcaton7093 3 года назад +1

    I love my Mark 5:25 head for the clean tones.

  • @johnnathancordy
    @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

    Did I miss your favourite amp? Probably.

    • @mastermachetier5594
      @mastermachetier5594 3 года назад +1

      I had a triple rectifier as a teen when I played in my emo scremo band phase and since have gone more clean in my later years I haven completely forgotten about mesa and thought they were mostly metal amps.

  • @TLMuse
    @TLMuse 3 года назад +1

    Ooo, really loved that Electra Dyne tone-nearly pure clean, but thick with a hint of breakup. And the Mark 3 lead tone at the end. It's funny, I just don't think "metal" when I hear "Mesa Boogie." The only Boogie I've ever played was my cousin's Mark II (maybe IIA?), in the late 1970s, when I was around 17 and a big admirer of Santana on the one hand, but even more so of fusion players like Di Meola, Carlton, Ritenour, and Metheny on the other. I suppose today Larry Carlton is mainly identified with Dumble, but for his classic first solo albums, I believe he was relying on a Boogie. My older cousin got one; he also was a guitar collector and had a dot-inlay 335 and a Strat and LP from the late 50s. He invited me over to his apartment one day for a guitar lesson, letting me play all 3 of those guitars through his Boogie (I did most of the lesson on the 335). Well, soon I was off to college and apartment life where an amp was not an option; I'm mainly an in-the-box player. But I think I'm still chasing the tone of that early Boogie with those incredible guitars. I'm an audio electronics DIYer, and my cousin let me copy the Boogie schematic in the service manual. I built the preamp circuit, and a headphone amp for it, but of course it didn't sound anything like the actual amp. With Boogies (and I suppose any good amp), it's really the whole package that makes it-preamp, power stage, speakers, and cabinet. Anyway, thanks for this look at MB history. I'll always associate the name with early Carlton, Di Meola, and Santana, no matter what metal fans tell me! -Tom

  • @fightingtwozeroone
    @fightingtwozeroone 3 года назад +1

    I have a Stilleto combo but wish at the time I had chosen the Lone Star. The clean tones that are generated by the Lone Star are hard to beat...

  • @andywoodmusic
    @andywoodmusic 3 года назад +1

    great stuff man!

  • @Bushprowler
    @Bushprowler 3 года назад +1

    That's actually a great video. I have a love/hate relationship with Mesa Boogie. One of the first amps I've bought was the DC-5 combo, then I "upgraded" to a Mark IIC+ top, later tried the IV, went back to my IIC+, got a 3 Channel Dual Rec, traded it for a early 90's 2 Channel Dual Rec, had several Mesa Boogie racks (Quad, Triaxis with and without Rectifier board and so on) a Roadking.. and the Roadking was... special. It kinda redefined option paralysis for me but after hours and hours of testing the tonal results weren't all that versatile, tbh. In the end they didn't do that much with these "old" tone stacks and the Pearce G2r Combo I still have is tonally more versatile than some of these Mesa flagship amps could ever be because it's designed that way (active EQ, parametric mids placed before the distortion, several switchable low/high pass filters and boost/gain stages etc.) without being too complicated. I can't stand any of the Rectifiers, the only Rectifier I did like was the old 2 Channel Dual which easily killed the Roadking tone-wise and this amp on the other hand was easily replaced with a Framus Cobra/Dragon which are everything the Rectifiers seemingly wanted to be while offering superior build quality, materials and construction (at least the V1 do), imo.. I really lost interest in them after this and haven't thought about trying a new Mesa Boogie in about 10-15 years but that old 2 Channel was a great amp indeed. I completely forgot that the non-high gain Rectifier like that Blue Angel even existed, it sounds really nice. Since Gibson has a history of effectively sabotaging and killing brands they acquire (like Steinberger) I don't think this will be a good pairing.

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh 3 года назад

      Wait, you owned one of the road kings that didn’t break?

  • @benperry490
    @benperry490 3 года назад

    John great job on that outro song the production on the backing track your soloing too was great around 19:10 when you kick in the drive channel and that woosh sound with the airy pad in the background very nice I'd be interested in how you achieved that

  • @BenBreard
    @BenBreard 3 года назад +1

    Remember the Maverick? That was the Blue angle era clean amp aimed at country. ....or at least that's what my memory tells me. That may not be 100% right.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      Yeh they brought out those two "Dual Rectifiers" at that time that are obviously nothing like the actual Rectifiers that Boogie are known for!

  • @vncstudio
    @vncstudio 3 года назад

    Great video and playing!

  • @lawboss
    @lawboss 3 года назад +1

    I have a Tremoverb (96') that has served me well.

  • @steve14437
    @steve14437 2 года назад

    Thanks for showcasing some great amps with great playing. Your note selection is fresh and unique. Well done. Just one question…I’m wondering about the start of the video where you mentioned Randall being inspired by Star Wars episode one, which came years after his company started doing business. Am I missing something here?

  • @JohanJoosLaur
    @JohanJoosLaur 3 года назад

    Amazing job, was really really interesting and well put together ! I'm definitely one of those who associate Mesa to high-gain rock/metal territory (shame on me), that's all I could see around in my teen years as well...they were everywhere aha !

  • @marcoshahahaha
    @marcoshahahaha 3 года назад

    Hi John, ive just asked on the IG if its a mkiii on the back, now i found this video! thanks so much! Did you recorded this with the OX? I found a markiii green stripe on sale in my contry and just ordered, so excited to get this amp!

  • @tonystartup3817
    @tonystartup3817 3 года назад +1

    Ah there's that mkiii. I still wouldn't mind trying that one out.

  • @tomasmarques1851
    @tomasmarques1851 3 года назад +1

    Nice video John! You didn't mention your Mark 5:25, you no longer have it ? I think the idea of the 5:25 was to kind of capture the history of the Mark series. Myself I own a Lonestar, which I bought less than 2 years ago. At the time I was looking into the Mark 5:25 (as a more versatile option, also with the Cab Clone and the headphone out), and also tired the Triple Crown, but was charmed by the Lonestar's cleans. Have you ever tried the Triple Crown ?

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      I have something planned 5:25 wise that remains a secret...but hopefully soon!
      Oh and nope I've never tried the triple crown which is one of the ones I've missed here. Not sure why but it never appealed to me?

  • @jamescassidy4045
    @jamescassidy4045 2 года назад

    Do you think that the Blue Angel could run on the 6V6 setting with the EL84's pulled out? I know its kinda a dumb question, but Ive always been curious! Also I wonder how many Blue Angels were made, or what years they were made!?!?

  • @TCMx3
    @TCMx3 3 года назад

    that Electradyne sounds killer, actually it reminds me a LOT of the Suhr Bella.

  • @AlecBourneMidiMadScientist
    @AlecBourneMidiMadScientist 3 года назад +1

    Well done, learned a good bit there man.

  • @Starch1b2c3d4a
    @Starch1b2c3d4a 3 года назад

    Nice collection

  • @kelldammit
    @kelldammit 3 года назад

    i have lusted after a mark IV after first seeing an ad for one in a guitar mag (mid/late 80's i think?)

  • @jakollee
    @jakollee 3 года назад +1

    Love the way you affectionately pat the amp at the end! What delay were you using?

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      native instruments replika!

    • @jakollee
      @jakollee 3 года назад

      @@johnnathancordy Sounds great!

  • @strongarm65
    @strongarm65 Год назад

    I have an early 2000s Mesa Boogie Subway Rocket 20W 10 inch combo. It's not a bad amp. I never see the Subway series in any of these Boogie history docs. I also have the Mark 5:25 which is obviously more versatile.

  • @phishphan5732
    @phishphan5732 3 года назад

    Beautiful ! That Mark 3 sounds killer ! What speaker is in it ?

  • @Joseandresyanes
    @Joseandresyanes 3 года назад

    Even the express heads right now are going for crazy money ): they are great

  • @adamulc
    @adamulc 3 года назад

    Great video, nice playling, but why are you sitting on the edge of the frame?

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 3 года назад

    I always had a soft spot for the Studio 22 combo, but found the gain structure inconvenient setting up clean and gain differently, also being too low powered.

  • @jamesjblack
    @jamesjblack 3 года назад

    i have a Mark IIB combo,,,and yes this is the most versatile amp.. i play blues/jazz fusion... not a metal guy.....and there is a fender sweet spot on the mark IIB.... almost a dumble tone though i don't know about the feel.. as i never played through one

  • @TLMuse
    @TLMuse 3 года назад +1

    What was your signal chain here? I don't see a mic on the amp. Were you using a direct out into an IR? -Tom

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад +1

      Hey Tom!
      Im using a Mesa Boogie Widebody Cabinet just behind me with an Origin Spirit in front of it!

  • @imannonymous7707
    @imannonymous7707 3 года назад

    I was an avid fan of Mesa and I still dig the tone of them...but I watched a few repair vids of them getting repaired.....disappointing how they were engineered. And manufactured ....they are very hard to repair.

  • @Deep_Jimpact
    @Deep_Jimpact 3 года назад +3

    I’d like to point out I made that joke on one of your videos

  • @puntman94
    @puntman94 3 года назад +2

    Pat Martino is a Boogie player.

  • @mylesmackey2430
    @mylesmackey2430 3 года назад +1

    Ive heard of people selling their souls to the devil to be guitar Gods and, John, I was wondering if you can tell me where I can find the line up?

  • @Lensman864
    @Lensman864 3 года назад

    You don't even know that Santana was responsible for the Boogie name?!
    "That thing really boogies!" Carlos Santana upon viewing a Mesa combo.
    Not impressive; I'll get back to my Mark V now ...

  • @shane011471
    @shane011471 2 года назад

    They are great until they are not and when that time comes (And It Will) sometimes you wish you purchased a different amp. Not one amp tech I have ever brought my Mesa to has ever said that they enjoy working on them. Yes I am sure people will say they have owned one for 600 years and have never had a problem ever.

  • @Topnotchguitars1
    @Topnotchguitars1 3 года назад

    Bought you a coffee with a question attached, no response, good bye

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  3 года назад

      Hey Bernie? Sorry I've not seen this? Let me check?
      Edit: I've just checked I can't find your email on the buy me a coffee link sorry Bernie!!
      Edit again: I've found it and emailed you - I need to do a video on the Mark 3 so apologies I hadn't responded to that!

  • @zavotic6184
    @zavotic6184 3 года назад +1

    e

  • @BellaPlaysMC101
    @BellaPlaysMC101 Год назад

    Wrong!!!! Which tabloid magazine did you read that from? Here is Randall Smith the creator himself said it came from him working on Mercedes-Benz and Carlos Santana saying,"That amp really boogies."
    ruclips.net/video/vwmyIuY21TI/видео.html

  • @shanehill4278
    @shanehill4278 7 месяцев назад

    bro thats not where the name came from are you serious?

  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall9973 3 года назад +1

    Two overrated products under one roof now... Pity about Kramer. Favourite amp, strangely and probably the original Peavey Bandit (transistor amp).

  • @jamiemorgan4146
    @jamiemorgan4146 Год назад

    M “A” sa!!!! Not Mezza
    It’s also Not Boooogie.
    It’s pronounced Boogie