I worked at Mesa/Boogie 1989-92. I was final check /quality control , head of packing . That little card comes with every Boogie ,that's signed off by someone doing quality control on down the line , I was the last guy to sign before we boxed them up . I was there for the Mark 1 reissue , the Mark 4, and the Rectifier , these were all in heavy production when I was there . It was fun times . I was in a band called Colorfinger at the time (it later turned into Everclear, I was the drummer) this is how cool Boogie was, when we went on tour while I was working there they gave all the guys in the band free amps of their choice to use while we toured .
O.K. we are going way back. 1980-1981. Something like that. My older brother had just got a Mesa Boogie S.O.B. 1x12 combo. And he compared it to his Marshall stack. It was just as loud or louder than the Marshall stack. I was in the local stationary store a few days later and was reading a guitar and amp magazine. On the cover. "Interview with Randall Smith of Mesa Boogie". One of the first questions the interviewer asked him was "Why are your amps so loud?". Randall Smith answers "Because I don't lie on my specs". "If I tell you that you are getting 60 watts - you are getting a full 60 watts!"
As a teenager, I bought several amps, and then returned them. In desperation, I saved up all my summer job money and sent it to Petaluma for a Mark 2B. It finally arrived, when I plugged in, my hair stood on end. I still have it. Recapped it during quarantine. It still sounds awesome.
That's awesome, I hope to still have my Dual Rectifier many years from now. Once I finally became an adult I was able to purchase one, it was my dream amp as a teenager.
I have a mark 4. The volume suddenly dropped off significantly. Its is now very much quieter than before. I can turn it all the way up with bedroom levels. All channels are reduced but the r1 and r2 are the worst. The tubes are all good. Have replaced them all. Does anyone know what the issue is? Transformer? Caps? I don't have the 600 mesa wants for a bench test and repairs. Please any input would be appreciated.
Hey Rick, John Hiatt is putting a bunch of gear up on Reverb in a week or two ---- dunno if he's got a Boogie but he's got a blonde Bandmaster and some Perfectly Good Guitars, and who knows what else (maybe one of his Telecasters?).....and when will you do a "what makes this song great?" episode about a John Hiatt song?
Excellent video Keith! My first real tube amp was a Mark IV, that I got when I was 13. It stayed with me well into my 30's - what a workhorse. A few years ago I got to tour the factory in Petaluma with some friends, and even got a peek into Randall's workshop. Twas a great experience.
mine too. can totally hear u playing a markIV, rj. i miss mine-had it for 30 years. finally traded it in to help pay for my kid’s drums. it was heavy as f tho. but the tone from those 3 channels was to die for.
I got a Boogie 50 Cal combo when I was sixteen and stopped lugging my Marshall stack all over L.A. It was such a relief! That thing was so loud. I gigged with it for years. It was a heavy amp, but with it's Celestion a lot lighter than the Mark III combo I almost bought which had an EV and castors. It was a simpler amp to operate, not that I didn't understand the Marks which I did. I just knew I'd be dialing and using this or that push-pull and the time so the fact that the 50 Cal was two rather than three channels was a good thing for me. That amp really cut through any mix, live or recording, and I loved gigging with it. The thing got me so many compliments on my sound and soundmen at clubs were relieved to see me and the combo because I wasn't gonna be some primadonna with a stack and 4X12 cabs trying to find the perfect sweet spot. It meant and could setup and breakdown a lot quicker, and as was my habit I always helped the drummer setup and breakdown their kit because I took no time at all once the mic was placed where the soundman wanted it.
@@jeremyversusjazz Me 3. I ordered a MKIV (you could only by factory direct at the time) and it was my first "real amp". It was literally instant gratification thanks to the settings quick guide they provided - and still provide, as seen with my new MK5:25, which is also a great lil amp, typical of Boogie...Am a Boogie fanboy for sure.
Back in the early 70’s I aquired a boogie schematic but being broke I decided to build my own and started collecting parts . I bent my own chassis and bought a couple punches for the tube holes. My big problem was getting the output, power, and choke transformers !!! So I wrote boogie and told them what I was doing and would they sell me the transformers. They said they would and gave me a very reasonable price which I jumped on . I received the transformers and in a couple weeks had my own home built boogie in a small footprint open back enclosure I built out of plywood. It worked and sounded great . I never forgot the favor they gave me and now own a bunch of boogies as payback !!!! A great amp and a great company !!!
My Mesa Boogie "ha-ha!" moment was James Hetfield's MONSTER tone on the "And Justice for All" tour. It just ripped my young head off and I became obsessed with chasing that tone. So nasty on its own when "Blackened" began, but absolutely amazing in the mix when the rest of the band kicked in. To this day the Dual Rec is still my all-time favorite amplifier. Ever.
Amazingly, James' tone came from his fingers, but was suulemented by two major factors. My friend Randy's amps, and EMG pickups, made by my good friend Rob Turner, who, ironically, as with Randy, is not a guitar player! Rob's a drummer, while Randy is a keyboard player these days, but he played alto sax & flute in his days in the Forest Knolls garage when we played together in amazing jams at the local watering hole in Lagunitas, CA.
That album (& the Black album) are both Mark IVs. I own both a Mark IV & a Rectifier. Both are absolutely fantastic "will keep until the day I die" amps.
My first guitar teacher had a Boogie in 1976, living in the bay area. I purchased a '68 Princeton Reverb/ JBL D-110 on his recommendation from the Prune Music shop in Mill Valley, where they had some amazing tech setting up the amps for a lot of local players.
Loved the video. You covered a lot of territory here. I have owned 3 Boogies. I had a Mark III Simul-Class combo, purchased in 1996 and sold in 2016. I have an Express 5:25+ and I just bought a Fillmore 50 combo a week ago. You got most of their amps in the video. Conspicuously absent were the Heartbreaker and the Express series.
The Mesa Mark V has been my only amp for the past 11 years. It does everything really well. As we evolve as musicians, our tastes may shift and change, and it is an amazing feeling to be able to discover new tones from a single amp that has been a companion for so long. Thank you again for all of your great well-researched content. You love what you do and it shows.
There are no videos as good as yours on vintage gear, nobody dives as deep into what you really need to know in only a half and hour. Well done as always.
No doubt! There's so much research in Keith's videos, you're bombarded with facts & history through from start to finish, and as you say well presented with a top-notch soundtrack.
It's always a magical day when Keith releases a Short History video! This was no exception - entertaining and super informative. I've said it before, and it's true, that Keith has become our Ken Burns for gear nerds everywhere. Bravo!
I love these videos and I was so psyched to see Jonathan Cordy, one of my favorite RUclips players. Not a ton a subscribers but regardless is an absolutely amazing player and a master of legato. Glad he is getting noticed. Keith, way to expose a great player somewhat under the radar! I’ve been watching this channel from the first video and you’ve always been a super humble guy so I’m not surprised you’re willing to help others. Maybe a brief history of Soldano next…??? 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Keith, excellent video. I saw Santana at Madison Sq. Garden in 1978. The band actually took a break during the show. After the break, Carlos came out on the stage with his guitar, and a roadie followed him pushing a cart with two Mesa Boogie on it!!! I had only seen Mesa Boogie amps in Guitar Player magazine. The band jumped into "Biala Mi Hermana", Carlos scorched the house with that solo section, WOW!!!!! Carlos blew the house down that night.
Brad Gillis deserved mention here. His tone from I believe a Mark ii on Ozzys Speak of the Devil album took the Sabbath songs to a new level IMO. Still one of the best live sounds I've heard.
Great video! It’s easy (for me at least) to forget that Mesa has present at almost as many legendary moments in musical history as the more established brands of Fender/Marshall/Vox etc. And they’ve reinvented themselves many times to suit the changes in music and demands of musicians through the years while continually innovating. No small achievement.
I have owned many Mesa amps. Mark III, Blue Angel, Maverick, Lone Star Special. Loved them all. They never let me down and always delivered the goods. Great video, many thanks. It brought back many good memories.
All 5WW videos are amazing and informative.... but that went above and beyond. As always, thank you for all the research and hard work preparing these videos.
I’ve owned a lot of amps, but the most magical amp I’ve ever owned was a Mesa mkiib. I just couldn’t stop playing it. I’d tell myself that the was done playing and then I’d just play a couple more notes just to hear the amp. I’d then be stuck there for hours just intoxicated by the sound. I eventually traded that amp and have owned several mesas since then. Rectos, Mkiv and is still have a mark iii blue stripe. But none of those have the magic of that mkiib. It was literally magical to me.
Ever since early teen years in the late 80ies I lusted after Boogies. Picked up brochures from the local music store and day-dreamt about being able to own one of these amps. Later in adult life used a 20/20, DC-5 (for a long time), Studio 22, TA-15 (the only one I was not too happy with the build quality), 3-ch. Dual Rectifier (regret selling this one) and lately am very happy with an old caliber 50+ head next to my trusty Studio 22. I tried many other amps, but there is just something in the Mesa-Tone & flexibility in all its forms that I keep gravitating to. Thank you Mesa!
I've a Lonestar and love it. My dad has a Princeton and it sounds amazing with a BK Butler Tube Driver in front of it. As a kid playing in bands I always wanted a Boogie but couldn't afford one. Have a good selection of amps, but nothing beats the Lonestar for me. Thanks for the great videos.
I’ve been a professional drummer since I was 17 ( 43 years ago. ) I’m a guitar geek and own around 25 guitars. I was 17 when visiting my cousin, he put in an 8-track tape of Moon Flower. It was a transcending moment that I still remember as if it was yesterday ! I just got my Messa totally redone at their factory.., Boogie indeed !
I owned a Mesa S.O.B. In college. Playing that through a closed-back 4x12 cab in a basement with no plugs is the main reason I have hearing problems in my 30s.
Saw Walter Trout live in Aarhus, Denmark in 1989. I was just starting out on guitar and the sound of his Mesa Boogie on a small club stage was life changing.
great Mesa amp history video. worth mentioning is the short lived Maverick. amazing for having Class A GZ34/5AR4 tube rectifier power section. a snarling beast. ever wonder what a Mesa two channel hot-rodded AC30 would sound like?
I’ve been playing a subway rocket for several years now that I bought second hand. 2 channel 1x10 with tone stack toggle. EL84s and 12ax7. The subway series seems to sneak under the radar and are sleeper amps.
The intro, in addition to the quality of sound and information packed into this video is amazing. Thank you Keith for your love and promotion of learning/growing. Well done sir!
Keith - yet another stellar Short History. Amazing how much quality content you got into just over 27 minutes. I feel dumb at how little I knew about Mesa - thanks so much for filling in so many gaps in my knowledge.
My magic moment was hearing Mark Knopfler playing a Schecter Dream Machine through a Mesa Boogie MKIIB In 1983. It just soared. The only amp that maybe got close to the tone was his SLO100 but it was a different beast, and a different sound.
Thank you for creating this very informative short history on Mesa amps! I just want to make a honorary mention of one very famous user - namely John Sykes on Whitesnake‘s 1987 album. He used a Mesa Mk-2c Coliseum (six!! 6L6 in the Power section). Kudos for mentioning Scott Gorham of Thin Lizzy!
I'm late to the party but thought I'd share that I inherited a 1979 Mark II from my musical partner-in-crime who died from ALS last year. I just had it re-capped and it sounds FANTASTIC. It's a trip to pull the amp out of the cabinet and see the handwritten notes on the aluminum in magic marker along with the date it left production. The amp was built before Mesa used serial numbers. A groundbreaking amp that's up there will the great pioneering amps of the 60s and 70s.
Great video! I got my first Boogie in around 1982. I got to speak directly with Randall Smith when I ordered it and also his wife who I think worked in the office. I was blown away that you could talk directly with the people who made the amp. I ordered a MarkII B and when I received the amp they sent me a MarkII C. They included a letter explaining that they were transitioning to the newer model and sent me it instead. It was a tone machine. I gigged a lot with that amp but unfortunately sold it sometime in the 90's. I've used other Boogies over the years but still miss that one. Mesa Engineering was a great company and people to do business with.
Unfortunately I ordered mine when they were making the IIC+ which described drenching reverb..instead not saying anything they sent me one of the first Mark lll. Reverb was non existent and that extra channel nothing I would use ever being a one pickup 1957 Les Paul junior guy. I’m a real reverb person and liked the reverb on the demo that prompted me to sell my Marshall Plexi for the Boogie. Big flop..I eventually got a Mark IV which I like much more. But they should have delivered what was ordered.
Wow - i had a similar experience with "Moonflower". That endless sustain seemed a Santana hallmark, and I always wondered where it came from. Now I know.
Terrific Episode Keith!!! We've had a MKIII and a Lonestar in the family for almost 3 decades combined. Love your videos and channel, keep makin' em' we'll watch more!!
Fascinating stuff Keith. Thank-you. They’ve always had a bit too many knobs and switches for my liking but I appreciate that better players than me can get the most out of them.
I have the honor & privilege of being friends with Randy Smith since the Prune Music and "Garage" days, when, oddly enough, he was playing Alto Sax back then (he's now playing mainly keyboard). He and many other good friends played together in a big jam session at our local watering hole every Friday & Saturday, and whoever was not playing gigs showed up. Those were amazing times! A few luminaries were also involved, such as Elvin Bishop, members of the Turk Murphy Band, and loads of great players from all over the country that happened to be in town for concerts & shows. Randy, of course, was a regular, and when the bar had to close at 2am, we would frequently go up to Randy's place to continue after hours. He had an original Gibson ES 150 "Charlie Christian" that I usually claimed, and us guitarists had a choice of Boogies to use. I don't see Randy so often any more, but when we do get together, we have a wonderful time talking about those days when Boogie amps were built in his old garage. He's a great guy (as are all his long time employees, including Mike Bendenelli, Doug West, et al)
No mention of the 5:50 Express? The only amplifier that I have ever bought, immediately after playing through it at a guitar store. I absolutely love it.
I am a proud owner of an F50 Combo with the Black Shadow Celestion. This amp kills! Unbelievable tone and power when needed. And please don’t forget Andy Timmons uses Mesa’s exclusively!
Santana was one of those players that grabbed me by the ear as a young kid. I’m beginning to have a strong distaste for the sound of humbucker guitars, really finding it grating on me unless it’s Santana or zappa. Love this one, I learn so much from your channel.
I've owned a slew of amps starting with a Fender M80 Chorus. I've owned Fenders, Marshalls, Vox, Friedmans, Boss, Yamaha, and on and on. Just ordered a California Tweed 6V6. Never owned a Mesa Boogie before so I can't wait to see what kind of tones can be coaxed out of it.
@@stratolestele7611 I absolutely love it. So much so that my other amps are getting jealous. Right now I have a Fender Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb, a Vox AC15C1, and a Friedman Runt 20 Combo along with the Mesa California Tweed. Being strictly a home player, the thing I find most useful is being able to turn it down to 5W so I don't wake the neighbors. The Tonemaster DR does the same but is solid state. Another nice feature with these is the control knobs are on the front of the amps rather than the top. That's one thing I can't stand with the Friedman and Vox. The knobs are on top and you have to stand BEHIND the amp to read them. Makes no sense why they do that. IMO, the California Tweed is the perfect amp...for me.
Keith: I am not a guitar nerd, but I have a son who is. He can go on for hours talking about the fine differences that either a guitar, an amp, or a pedal can make on the sounds that are produced. You help me to relate, enjoy, and be a part of his world. Thank you.
Moonflower was a pivotal album for me growing up and I had no idea about the Boogie connection. Now I sit here mourning the fact that the Son of Boogie I now have was not mentioned and that I repaired to working order with limited knowledge. I plan to increase my knowledge off amp repair and mod this thing into a monster amp. Thanks for this video!
Well done as always Keith, and thank you. Surprised that as thoroughly as you researched this topic , that no mention was made of the .22 Caliber combo, dual EL-84 amp
While i realize you’re a guitar guy, doing videos covering bass equipment like Mesa’s bass amps would be fantastic. I have a Mesa 400+ all tube bass amp and it is a punchy, articulate, LOUD, kick-ass machine!
@@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung I have a Mesa Bass 400 that I bought brand new in 91 with a 1-15 cabinet. I used it for years and it always sounded great. I rarely use it any more now have a subway 800 and walkabout. But it is one great sounding amp. I used a 400+ once on a big stage and I thought it was too loud but it sounded fantastic...
It's funny to hear people talking about 400 watt bass anything. I have a 100 watt fender bass amp, and it will knock shit off my neighbor's wall. I play it at 25% when I want to redo my own wall art.
@@stevehazlewood2960 Well, I'm in my mid 30s and very late to playing music. My current band is in the "garage" phase but it still just cracks me up to think about playing at 200 watts. I fully understand where it's needed...I started as a guitar player and still laugh at how my fender twin can get the cops called at like a 3-5. Or how my 100 watt rumble gets complaints at half way. Hell I was at a show this week where if they would've turned only the vocals up on the PA and let the "small" Amps go, it would've sounded better. I dunno. It's just wild to me. You can be loud as fuck with minimal effort or gear.
I saw a couple of boogies for the first time when I saw Larry Carlton play at the Bacchanal in San Diego. He played by himself (effortlessly) and those amps were incredible, the full sound that came out of those 2 little amps was impressive.
Awesome video! You didn't even touch on the bass amps, of course that'd be a whole separate video 😉 (I'm a Mesa bass amp fan; I have been since I plugged into my first one in the late 90s)
thanks for this video, Keith! amazing content done with proper passion and admiration =) I love mesas and they've been the core of my sound for the best part of my life. and I still want to get more of them =) LOL
I owned an early MK I with the press on labels and used it as my main amp on many recording sessions in the 70s and 80s and had it on the road with Maynard Ferguson for a while. I wish I had that amp back!!! Also used a Randall Smith modified Princeton (with a 12" speaker) on a record which was amazing. I've always requested Mark series Boogies when on the road.
Next: "A *Long* History Of Mesa Boogie" ---- the collected stories of all the Mesa Boogie amps that landed on a service technicians' bench ---- and stayed there. Or ended up in storage next to it, or under it....
When i was a kid my dad had a mesa mark iic combo and i thought it was such a piece of shit could only get clean tones from that thing and distortion pedals just didnt sound good. Then one day im playing and hes messing with the knobs and he pulls them to engage the lead channel, i didnt know they did that. I love this thing now.
My first proper tube amp was a Mesa Rectoverb 25 combo. It cuts through the mix like a switchblade , and triggers jealousy and occasionally rage from other guitarists when I sit in. I've never had to turn up the master past 10 (o'clock!). You MUST turn it up to get THAT famous Mesa tone and sustain. The thing is waaaay too loud for anything but practicing in soundproof studios or live performance in front of a couple of hundred people. Using it at bar small gigs is an anti-social act. Don't expect to be invited back. Even on it's 10 watt setting. I used to wait until everyone left my office in a self storage facilit to play that puppy in anger. The rats fled the building in terror, leaving me with an audience of cockroaches. I still have that amp, and it still sounds epic. It's the sort of thing that tells other musicians you are serious about your tone - and being heard. If you are thinking of buying one, remember: Mesas are boutique thoroughbreds - Not the sort of thing you wanna gig with unless you have a security detail watching it like a hawk, and don't care how much beer and vomit get spilled on it, or how many times the speaker grill gets kicked in. For gigging I use a solid state Boss Katana , which gets me 97% of the Mesa's tone and 85% of it's playing feel - at whatever volume I like, at 1/10th the replacement cost of my primo amp.
Keith, I've been a subscriber now for over two years and this video was one of your best. Especially, since I just got hired at Mesa/Boogie! Great research. Now I'm armed with deep knowledge when I meet Randy for the first time. Thanks!!
I think one of the best all time recorded tones is Rivers Cuomo on Weezer's Blue Album - he used a Mark I Boogie head for the entire session and a Les Paul Special double-cut to achieve some of the thickest and most harmonic crunch tones ever. He used this combination again on Pinkerton and on the Green album and even busted the Mesa out for their Van Weezer album. Tim Mahoney of 311 and Mike Einziger of Incubus were huge Mesa guys in the 90s, Mike especially relied on the Rectifiers and Tremoverbs. Pretty sure Nick Hexum of 311 is now a Mesa user, even though Tim no longer plays them exclusively.
Had played an early Mesa Boogie and my ears told me all I needed to know, although I couldn't afford at the time, so much tone in such a small Amp with Eq settings and that unique Presence knob in it. Thanks for the backstory on this innovative company and Fantastic amps.
Very awesome video! I have a boogie that belongs to my father that was one of Keith Richards amps. It was given to him by Clive Davis when my father was signed to Arista Records! One of the best sounding amos I've ever played!
Great video. I have an '85 Mk II in the cream tolex and graphic EQ on the front. I'm in SF and need to run it up to Petaluma to get the reverb fixed while they're still around. I've tried everything from tubes to a new tank altogether with success. It's been sitting in my garage for years with it's original cover and looks almost new. I should have them go over it completely and get it up to speed. It's a sweet little monster.
I got a Mark III c series in the late 80's in NY and then moved to San Francisco. I needed it cleaned up so I drove to Petaluma to Mesa/Boogie and Randall Smith himself "modded" it while I waited. It sounded awesome and I still have it to this day. I have vintage Fender, VOX, Ampeg amps - but still find that my Boogie is a go to to certain tones - especially clean funk and focused crunch.
I worked at Mesa/Boogie 1989-92. I was final check /quality control , head of packing . That little card comes with every Boogie ,that's signed off by someone doing quality control on down the line , I was the last guy to sign before we boxed them up . I was there for the Mark 1 reissue , the Mark 4, and the Rectifier , these were all in heavy production when I was there . It was fun times . I was in a band called Colorfinger at the time (it later turned into Everclear, I was the drummer) this is how cool Boogie was, when we went on tour while I was working there they gave all the guys in the band free amps of their choice to use while we toured .
Cool! Say 'Ela' to Artie! \m/
Music used to be so much cooler.
Hell yeah. I’m starting there today.
Well thats cool. I'll have to check my Mark I reissue tag!
Cool story mate. I've got an F-50 which I got in 2005 and it's still going strong.
O.K. we are going way back. 1980-1981. Something like that. My older brother had just got a Mesa Boogie S.O.B. 1x12 combo. And he compared it to his Marshall stack. It was just as loud or louder than the Marshall stack. I was in the local stationary store a few days later and was reading a guitar and amp magazine. On the cover. "Interview with Randall Smith of Mesa Boogie". One of the first questions the interviewer asked him was "Why are your amps so loud?". Randall Smith answers "Because I don't lie on my specs". "If I tell you that you are getting 60 watts - you are getting a full 60 watts!"
They told me my addiction to Mesa Boogies was frivolous, unwise and also taking up too much space in the house, but now who is laughing?
Your cramped living space.
@@18JR78 spaces can't laugh
@@18JR78 actually Kevin Spacey can. I was wrong
They're laughing, John.
@@johnnathancordy , sure, spaces can laugh, or scream, but in a vacuum, nobody can hear it.....
As a teenager, I bought several amps, and then returned them. In desperation, I saved up all my summer job money and sent it to Petaluma for a Mark 2B. It finally arrived, when I plugged in, my hair stood on end. I still have it. Recapped it during quarantine. It still sounds awesome.
Sounds like a grounding issue
@@JavaoftheLava 😂😂
That's awesome, I hope to still have my Dual Rectifier many years from now. Once I finally became an adult I was able to purchase one, it was my dream amp as a teenager.
Hope you sent it back to its father Mike Bendinelli. He just redid two Mark iii blue stripes for me and OMGOSH - Epic tone!
I have a mark 4. The volume suddenly dropped off significantly. Its is now very much quieter than before. I can turn it all the way up with bedroom levels. All channels are reduced but the r1 and r2 are the worst. The tubes are all good. Have replaced them all. Does anyone know what the issue is? Transformer? Caps? I don't have the 600 mesa wants for a bench test and repairs. Please any input would be appreciated.
Excellent Hypes! There still one Mesa I need it get. I’m looking for it right now :)
Hi rick!
Greetings Mr B . . Which one might that be?
I’m sure you’ll find it. Finding rare gear is definitely one of your fortes.
Hey Rick, John Hiatt is putting a bunch of gear up on Reverb in a week or two ---- dunno if he's got a Boogie but he's got a blonde Bandmaster and some Perfectly Good Guitars, and who knows what else (maybe one of his Telecasters?).....and when will you do a "what makes this song great?" episode about a John Hiatt song?
He will tell you when he finds it!
Excellent video Keith! My first real tube amp was a Mark IV, that I got when I was 13. It stayed with me well into my 30's - what a workhorse. A few years ago I got to tour the factory in Petaluma with some friends, and even got a peek into Randall's workshop. Twas a great experience.
mine too. can totally hear u playing a markIV, rj. i miss mine-had it for 30 years. finally traded it in to help pay for my kid’s drums. it was heavy as f tho. but the tone from those 3 channels was to die for.
Hey R.J. love your playing and general attitude! All the Best man you deserve it.
I got a Boogie 50 Cal combo when I was sixteen and stopped lugging my Marshall stack all over L.A. It was such a relief! That thing was so loud. I gigged with it for years. It was a heavy amp, but with it's Celestion a lot lighter than the Mark III combo I almost bought which had an EV and castors. It was a simpler amp to operate, not that I didn't understand the Marks which I did. I just knew I'd be dialing and using this or that push-pull and the time so the fact that the 50 Cal was two rather than three channels was a good thing for me. That amp really cut through any mix, live or recording, and I loved gigging with it. The thing got me so many compliments on my sound and soundmen at clubs were relieved to see me and the combo because I wasn't gonna be some primadonna with a stack and 4X12 cabs trying to find the perfect sweet spot. It meant and could setup and breakdown a lot quicker, and as was my habit I always helped the drummer setup and breakdown their kit because I took no time at all once the mic was placed where the soundman wanted it.
@@jeremyversusjazz Me 3. I ordered a MKIV (you could only by factory direct at the time) and it was my first "real amp". It was literally instant gratification thanks to the settings quick guide they provided - and still provide, as seen with my new MK5:25, which is also a great lil amp, typical of Boogie...Am a Boogie fanboy for sure.
@@jeremyversusjazz That is why they build furniture dollies. We aren’t spry young bucks any longer.
Back in the early 70’s I aquired a boogie schematic but being broke I decided to build my own and started collecting parts . I bent my own chassis and bought a couple punches for the tube holes. My big problem was getting the output, power, and choke transformers !!! So I wrote boogie and told them what I was doing and would they sell me the transformers. They said they would and gave me a very reasonable price which I jumped on . I received the transformers and in a couple weeks had my own home built boogie in a small footprint open back enclosure I built out of plywood. It worked and sounded great . I never forgot the favor they gave me and now own a bunch of boogies as payback !!!! A great amp and a great company !!!
Never stop what you're doing Keith. I've learned so much from this channel. You're the best.
Agreed.
My Mesa Boogie "ha-ha!" moment was James Hetfield's MONSTER tone on the "And Justice for All" tour. It just ripped my young head off and I became obsessed with chasing that tone. So nasty on its own when "Blackened" began, but absolutely amazing in the mix when the rest of the band kicked in.
To this day the Dual Rec is still my all-time favorite amplifier. Ever.
The rest of the band (minus bass) kicked in.
Amazingly, James' tone came from his fingers, but was suulemented by two major factors. My friend Randy's amps, and EMG pickups, made by my good friend Rob Turner, who, ironically, as with Randy, is not a guitar player! Rob's a drummer, while Randy is a keyboard player these days, but he played alto sax & flute in his days in the Forest Knolls garage when we played together in amazing jams at the local watering hole in Lagunitas, CA.
That album (& the Black album) are both Mark IVs. I own both a Mark IV & a Rectifier. Both are absolutely fantastic "will keep until the day I die" amps.
Any of the Mesa gear I’ve tried or owned could be summed up in a single word: stellar.
As a bass player, the Mesa Boogie Subway line is absolutely outstanding.
My son is a budding producer who is also a bass player. He has lots of excellent bass gear among which is a 300Watt Messa bass head. He loves it.
I got a Mark V in 2010 and I’m still finding “sweet spots” in all the modes, amazing amp👌
I Picked up a Rectoverb 50 on a whim for $500. Glad I did. Has been my main amp for two years. So versatile. Power scaling is great! Very under rated!
WOW….. you stole it!!
@@slowwwwBurnnnn813 I did. Have not played one but I hear the 25 is better. Rock on . Hope nothing but good things come your way !
I have the 25w Dual Rec combo! Best versatile amp I’ve played from Heavy, Blues, to clean tones! What my ears prefer anyways. Cheers
Today, I’m going to be productive…
*RUclips notification of the Mesa Boogie Short History*
Annnndddd productivity is gone
plan B: learn more than you ever imagined about Boogie and space out...
What I love about Mesa is the sheer versatility of tones you get from one amp.
My first guitar teacher had a Boogie in 1976, living in the bay area. I purchased a '68 Princeton Reverb/ JBL D-110 on his recommendation from the Prune Music shop in Mill Valley, where they had some amazing tech setting up the amps for a lot of local players.
Loved the video. You covered a lot of territory here. I have owned 3 Boogies. I had a Mark III Simul-Class combo, purchased in 1996 and sold in 2016. I have an Express 5:25+ and I just bought a Fillmore 50 combo a week ago. You got most of their amps in the video. Conspicuously absent were the Heartbreaker and the Express series.
Many RUclipsrs garner the viewer’s attention whereas you sir, have garnered the viewer’s respect. Please keep up the fantastic work!
The Mesa Mark V has been my only amp for the past 11 years. It does everything really well. As we evolve as musicians, our tastes may shift and change, and it is an amazing feeling to be able to discover new tones from a single amp that has been a companion for so long. Thank you again for all of your great well-researched content. You love what you do and it shows.
The Mark V does it all
There are no videos as good as yours on vintage gear, nobody dives as deep into what you really need to know in only a half and hour. Well done as always.
This video is a 'repeat viewing' top-tier production. Massive respect for the research, preparation and presentation.
No doubt! There's so much research in Keith's videos, you're bombarded with facts & history through from start to finish, and as you say well presented with a top-notch soundtrack.
One of the Best Five watt World....you should make a Marshall Edition like this one...
Did I dream the existence of the Triple Crown? Definitely deserves at least a brief mention.
It's always a magical day when Keith releases a Short History video! This was no exception - entertaining and super informative. I've said it before, and it's true, that Keith has become our Ken Burns for gear nerds everywhere. Bravo!
I love these videos and I was so psyched to see Jonathan Cordy, one of my favorite RUclips players. Not a ton a subscribers but regardless is an absolutely amazing player and a master of legato. Glad he is getting noticed. Keith, way to expose a great player somewhat under the radar! I’ve been watching this channel from the first video and you’ve always been a super humble guy so I’m not surprised you’re willing to help others. Maybe a brief history of Soldano next…??? 🤷🏻♂️
Not next but he’s on the list. Johns become a real inspiration to me. Huge fan of his playing and video “style.”
Hey Keith, excellent video. I saw Santana at Madison Sq. Garden in 1978. The band actually took a break during the show. After the break, Carlos came out on the stage with his guitar, and a roadie followed him pushing a cart with two Mesa Boogie on it!!! I had only seen Mesa Boogie amps in Guitar Player magazine. The band jumped into "Biala Mi Hermana", Carlos scorched the house with that solo section, WOW!!!!! Carlos blew the house down that night.
Just wow! I knew nothing of these amps. Now I want 7 of them. Thanks Keith!
This was absolutely great Keith. Very informative and well put together. Thank you.
Brad Gillis deserved mention here. His tone from I believe a Mark ii on Ozzys Speak of the Devil album took the Sabbath songs to a new level IMO. Still one of the best live sounds I've heard.
I heard him say, iirc, that it was two mark II c amps, separated by a 10 millisecond delay on Speak of the Devil
I´ve had and played many amps in more than 30 years...Nothing beats a Boogie...
Great video! It’s easy (for me at least) to forget that Mesa has present at almost as many legendary moments in musical history as the more established brands of Fender/Marshall/Vox etc. And they’ve reinvented themselves many times to suit the changes in music and demands of musicians through the years while continually innovating. No small achievement.
The Moon Flower album is what inspired me to get a Boogie (Mark IIC+ that I still own to this day) It has always given me the sound I hear in my head.
I have owned many Mesa amps. Mark III, Blue Angel, Maverick, Lone Star Special. Loved them all. They never let me down and always delivered the goods. Great video, many thanks. It brought back many good memories.
All 5WW videos are amazing and informative.... but that went above and beyond. As always, thank you for all the research and hard work preparing these videos.
I’ve owned a lot of amps, but the most magical amp I’ve ever owned was a Mesa mkiib. I just couldn’t stop playing it. I’d tell myself that the was done playing and then I’d just play a couple more notes just to hear the amp. I’d then be stuck there for hours just intoxicated by the sound. I eventually traded that amp and have owned several mesas since then. Rectos, Mkiv and is still have a mark iii blue stripe. But none of those have the magic of that mkiib. It was literally magical to me.
Ever since early teen years in the late 80ies I lusted after Boogies. Picked up brochures from the local music store and day-dreamt about being able to own one of these amps. Later in adult life used a 20/20, DC-5 (for a long time), Studio 22, TA-15 (the only one I was not too happy with the build quality), 3-ch. Dual Rectifier (regret selling this one) and lately am very happy with an old caliber 50+ head next to my trusty Studio 22. I tried many other amps, but there is just something in the Mesa-Tone & flexibility in all its forms that I keep gravitating to. Thank you Mesa!
I've a Lonestar and love it. My dad has a Princeton and it sounds amazing with a BK Butler Tube Driver in front of it. As a kid playing in bands I always wanted a Boogie but couldn't afford one. Have a good selection of amps, but nothing beats the Lonestar for me. Thanks for the great videos.
I'm still using a Studio 22 I bought in 1990.
Had a few repairs but still my favourite amp.
I’ve been a professional drummer since I was 17 ( 43 years ago. ) I’m a guitar geek and own around 25 guitars. I was 17 when visiting my cousin, he put in an 8-track tape of Moon Flower. It was a transcending moment that I still remember as if it was yesterday ! I just got my Messa totally redone at their factory.., Boogie indeed !
I owned a Mesa S.O.B. In college. Playing that through a closed-back 4x12 cab in a basement with no plugs is the main reason I have hearing problems in my 30s.
Saw Walter Trout live in Aarhus, Denmark in 1989. I was just starting out on guitar and the sound of his Mesa Boogie on a small club stage was life changing.
great Mesa amp history video. worth mentioning is the short lived Maverick. amazing for having Class A GZ34/5AR4 tube rectifier power section. a snarling beast. ever wonder what a Mesa two channel hot-rodded AC30 would sound like?
I’ve been playing a subway rocket for several years now that I bought second hand. 2 channel 1x10 with tone stack toggle. EL84s and 12ax7. The subway series seems to sneak under the radar and are sleeper amps.
The intro, in addition to the quality of sound and information packed into this video is amazing. Thank you Keith for your love and promotion of learning/growing. Well done sir!
Your awesome! Thank you for taking the time to do these history of videos. I can learn so much in a short amount of time.
Keith - yet another stellar Short History. Amazing how much quality content you got into just over 27 minutes. I feel dumb at how little I knew about Mesa - thanks so much for filling in so many gaps in my knowledge.
My magic moment was hearing Mark Knopfler playing a Schecter Dream Machine through a Mesa Boogie MKIIB In 1983. It just soared. The only amp that maybe got close to the tone was his SLO100 but it was a different beast, and a different sound.
I think the SLO is just a better rectifier. Or the rectifier is a worst SLO hahahaha. The SLO is. Rectifier that doesn't need a TS in front of it.
@@douglhorvath 😃 the recto is actually partly stolen from the SLO circuit…..both great
Once again, thank you Keith. We love what you do! Thanks to all the contributors!
Thank you for creating this very informative short history on Mesa amps! I just want to make a honorary mention of one very famous user - namely John Sykes on Whitesnake‘s 1987 album. He used a Mesa Mk-2c Coliseum (six!! 6L6 in the Power section). Kudos for mentioning Scott Gorham of Thin Lizzy!
I'm late to the party but thought I'd share that I inherited a 1979 Mark II from my musical partner-in-crime who died from ALS last year. I just had it re-capped and it sounds FANTASTIC. It's a trip to pull the amp out of the cabinet and see the handwritten notes on the aluminum in magic marker along with the date it left production. The amp was built before Mesa used serial numbers. A groundbreaking amp that's up there will the great pioneering amps of the 60s and 70s.
Gary Moore recorded Parisian walkways with a 59 LP into a Boogie mkI enough said.
Is that the guitar called Greenie? Kirk Hammett owns it now. Was owned by Peter Green from Fleetwood Mac initially. Some lineage.
@@DevRSVR That’s the one!
Great video! I got my first Boogie in around 1982. I got to speak directly with Randall Smith when I ordered it and also his wife who I think worked in the office. I was blown away that you could talk directly with the people who made the amp. I ordered a MarkII B and when I received the amp they sent me a MarkII C. They included a letter explaining that they were transitioning to the newer model and sent me it instead. It was a tone machine. I gigged a lot with that amp but unfortunately sold it sometime in the 90's. I've used other Boogies over the years but still miss that one. Mesa Engineering was a great company and people to do business with.
Unfortunately I ordered mine when they were making the IIC+ which described drenching reverb..instead not saying anything they sent me one of the first Mark lll. Reverb was non existent and that extra channel nothing I would use ever being a one pickup 1957 Les Paul junior guy. I’m a real reverb person and liked the reverb on the demo that prompted me to sell my Marshall Plexi for the Boogie.
Big flop..I eventually got a Mark IV which I like much more.
But they should have delivered what was ordered.
You've knocked it out of the park again man, great work. Carlos had the same lasting impression on me too.
Wow - i had a similar experience with "Moonflower". That endless sustain seemed a Santana hallmark, and I always wondered where it came from. Now I know.
Terrific Episode Keith!!! We've had a MKIII and a Lonestar in the family for almost 3 decades combined. Love your videos and channel, keep makin' em' we'll watch more!!
Great video! I didn’t know much about Mesa, particularly the Fender tie-in. I’m going take a closer look at them in the future.
I've never owned a Boogie, but the guitarist in my last band (I played bass there) had one and it sounded massive. Great tone.
Outstanding! You always have such dense textured content. I learned a huge amount and have a new interest in Mesa Boogie.
Fascinating stuff Keith. Thank-you. They’ve always had a bit too many knobs and switches for my liking but I appreciate that better players than me can get the most out of them.
There aren't too many channels that get so many wows out of me as yours. I love the dance background detail you give to every subject you come at.
John Sykes made me fall in love with Mesa, that tone is unique
I have the honor & privilege of being friends with Randy Smith since the Prune Music and "Garage" days, when, oddly enough, he was playing Alto Sax back then (he's now playing mainly keyboard).
He and many other good friends played together in a big jam session at our local watering hole every Friday & Saturday, and whoever was not playing gigs showed up. Those were amazing times!
A few luminaries were also involved, such as Elvin Bishop, members of the Turk Murphy Band, and loads of great players from all over the country that happened to be in town for concerts & shows.
Randy, of course, was a regular, and when the bar had to close at 2am, we would frequently go up to Randy's place to continue after hours.
He had an original Gibson ES 150 "Charlie Christian" that I usually claimed, and us guitarists had a choice of Boogies to use.
I don't see Randy so often any more, but when we do get together, we have a wonderful time talking about those days when Boogie amps were built in his old garage.
He's a great guy (as are all his long time employees, including Mike Bendenelli, Doug West, et al)
No mention of the 5:50 Express? The only amplifier that I have ever bought, immediately after playing through it at a guitar store. I absolutely love it.
I have the express 5:50+ with the graphic. Very amazing amp, versatile ,loud or soft, love it , but I would like a mark V
Hey, my model didn't get a mention either... lighten up lol😉
I have a 5:25 Express that I love.
I have a 5:50 Express 2x12 as well. Shame they didn't mention the series
Great amps as well.
I learn so much from your videos Keith! Thanks for taking the time to make them!
I am a proud owner of an F50 Combo with the Black Shadow Celestion. This amp kills! Unbelievable tone and power when needed. And please don’t forget Andy Timmons uses Mesa’s exclusively!
Cowboy Junkies?
Man this should have gone twice as long, there are so many things that were left out. Great video!
Santana was one of those players that grabbed me by the ear as a young kid. I’m beginning to have a strong distaste for the sound of humbucker guitars, really finding it grating on me unless it’s Santana or zappa. Love this one, I learn so much from your channel.
I've owned a slew of amps starting with a Fender M80 Chorus. I've owned Fenders, Marshalls, Vox, Friedmans, Boss, Yamaha, and on and on. Just ordered a California Tweed 6V6. Never owned a Mesa Boogie before so I can't wait to see what kind of tones can be coaxed out of it.
Any updates?
@@stratolestele7611 I absolutely love it. So much so that my other amps are getting jealous. Right now I have a Fender Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb, a Vox AC15C1, and a Friedman Runt 20 Combo along with the Mesa California Tweed. Being strictly a home player, the thing I find most useful is being able to turn it down to 5W so I don't wake the neighbors. The Tonemaster DR does the same but is solid state. Another nice feature with these is the control knobs are on the front of the amps rather than the top. That's one thing I can't stand with the Friedman and Vox. The knobs are on top and you have to stand BEHIND the amp to read them. Makes no sense why they do that. IMO, the California Tweed is the perfect amp...for me.
I especially love that Steve Kimock got a mention. Not only an incredible Boogie player but he worked for Randy and Boogie.
Keith: I am not a guitar nerd, but I have a son who is. He can go on for hours talking about the fine differences that either a guitar, an amp, or a pedal can make on the sounds that are produced. You help me to relate, enjoy, and be a part of his world. Thank you.
The creamy tone John Cordy is getting from his MKIII sounds very much like the Dumble tones guitarists seem to be chasing.
Moonflower was a pivotal album for me growing up and I had no idea about the Boogie connection. Now I sit here mourning the fact that the Son of Boogie I now have was not mentioned and that I repaired to working order with limited knowledge. I plan to increase my knowledge off amp repair and mod this thing into a monster amp. Thanks for this video!
Well done as always Keith, and thank you. Surprised that as thoroughly as you researched this topic , that no mention was made of the .22 Caliber combo, dual EL-84 amp
Or the 50 calibre. I gig with mine regularly and love it. Super reliable and decent tone.
And no mention of F-Series, especially The wonderfull F-30 when a little bit tweaked with 12AT7 on V1 slot...
I had two Mark III in the 80/90s, loved them. There's still a Quad Preamp here.
The Dual Rectifier has a secret number 39… thank you Soldano
Been watching for a year now or so. Each video gets more and more thoughtful and more well done. Please keep going, I learn so much from these vids!
While i realize you’re a guitar guy, doing videos covering bass equipment like Mesa’s bass amps would be fantastic. I have a Mesa 400+ all tube bass amp and it is a punchy, articulate, LOUD, kick-ass machine!
Same, greatest bass amp ever made, although even playing arenas it has never been above 2 , ITS SOOOOO LOUD
@@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung I have a Mesa Bass 400 that I bought brand new in 91 with a 1-15 cabinet. I used it for years and it always sounded great. I rarely use it any more now have a subway 800 and walkabout. But it is one great sounding amp. I used a 400+ once on a big stage and I thought it was too loud but it sounded fantastic...
It's funny to hear people talking about 400 watt bass anything. I have a 100 watt fender bass amp, and it will knock shit off my neighbor's wall. I play it at 25% when I want to redo my own wall art.
@@joshingtonbarthsworth631 I don't know how old you are but 30-40 years ago that was the norm. PA's were not as good as now.
@@stevehazlewood2960 Well, I'm in my mid 30s and very late to playing music. My current band is in the "garage" phase but it still just cracks me up to think about playing at 200 watts. I fully understand where it's needed...I started as a guitar player and still laugh at how my fender twin can get the cops called at like a 3-5. Or how my 100 watt rumble gets complaints at half way.
Hell I was at a show this week where if they would've turned only the vocals up on the PA and let the "small" Amps go, it would've sounded better. I dunno. It's just wild to me. You can be loud as fuck with minimal effort or gear.
I saw a couple of boogies for the first time when I saw Larry Carlton play at the Bacchanal in San Diego. He played by himself (effortlessly) and those amps were incredible, the full sound that came out of those 2 little amps was impressive.
Awesome video! You didn't even touch on the bass amps, of course that'd be a whole separate video 😉 (I'm a Mesa bass amp fan; I have been since I plugged into my first one in the late 90s)
It would be.
I've been playing a Mesa/Boogie F100 for a little bit and that tone is just sublime, I've been obsessed and took a dive in the rabbit hole since
Have an F50 combo, great amp and louder than .. pretty much any 50 watt amp.
Keith: you don't need much to play guitar
Also Keith: let me tell you about all this God gear
thanks for this video, Keith! amazing content done with proper passion and admiration =) I love mesas and they've been the core of my sound for the best part of my life. and I still want to get more of them =) LOL
I owned an early MK I with the press on labels and used it as my main amp on many recording sessions in the 70s and 80s and had it on the road with Maynard Ferguson for a while. I wish I had that amp back!!! Also used a Randall Smith modified Princeton (with a 12" speaker) on a record which was amazing. I've always requested Mark series Boogies when on the road.
Great video Keith! I didn’t know anything about Mesa Boogie until now. I just might have to get myself one now!
Next: "A *Long* History Of Mesa Boogie" ---- the collected stories of all the Mesa Boogie amps that landed on a service technicians' bench ---- and stayed there. Or ended up in storage next to it, or under it....
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I've been away for awhile. I have been looking forward to a video like this for some time. As always thanks for great story line.
When i was a kid my dad had a mesa mark iic combo and i thought it was such a piece of shit could only get clean tones from that thing and distortion pedals just didnt sound good. Then one day im playing and hes messing with the knobs and he pulls them to engage the lead channel, i didnt know they did that. I love this thing now.
Outstanding telling of the story! from someone who was there for a good bit of it....
There you are "BUZZ"!
My first proper tube amp was a Mesa Rectoverb 25 combo. It cuts through the mix like a switchblade , and triggers jealousy and occasionally rage from other guitarists when I sit in. I've never had to turn up the master past 10 (o'clock!). You MUST turn it up to get THAT famous Mesa tone and sustain. The thing is waaaay too loud for anything but practicing in soundproof studios or live performance in front of a couple of hundred people. Using it at bar small gigs is an anti-social act. Don't expect to be invited back. Even on it's 10 watt setting. I used to wait until everyone left my office in a self storage facilit to play that puppy in anger. The rats fled the building in terror, leaving me with an audience of cockroaches. I still have that amp, and it still sounds epic. It's the sort of thing that tells other musicians you are serious about your tone - and being heard. If you are thinking of buying one, remember: Mesas are boutique thoroughbreds - Not the sort of thing you wanna gig with unless you have a security detail watching it like a hawk, and don't care how much beer and vomit get spilled on it, or how many times the speaker grill gets kicked in. For gigging I use a solid state Boss Katana , which gets me 97% of the Mesa's tone and 85% of it's playing feel - at whatever volume I like, at 1/10th the replacement cost of my primo amp.
How do you get rectifier tone on a boss katana?
@@juggy2112 You F* with the knobs on top of it.
Keith, I've been a subscriber now for over two years and this video was one of your best. Especially, since I just got hired at Mesa/Boogie! Great research. Now I'm armed with deep knowledge when I meet Randy for the first time. Thanks!!
I talked to Doug yesterday. Sweet guy.
“Beefy Keith” and the 5watts ..... now, that’s the name 🤘👍🤷♂️
Keith Beith the Behemoth
Another good one. One of the best sites on YT - thanks for sharing bud.
I think one of the best all time recorded tones is Rivers Cuomo on Weezer's Blue Album - he used a Mark I Boogie head for the entire session and a Les Paul Special double-cut to achieve some of the thickest and most harmonic crunch tones ever. He used this combination again on Pinkerton and on the Green album and even busted the Mesa out for their Van Weezer album. Tim Mahoney of 311 and Mike Einziger of Incubus were huge Mesa guys in the 90s, Mike especially relied on the Rectifiers and Tremoverbs. Pretty sure Nick Hexum of 311 is now a Mesa user, even though Tim no longer plays them exclusively.
Had played an early Mesa Boogie and my ears told me all I needed to know, although I couldn't afford at the time, so much tone in such a small Amp with Eq settings and that unique Presence knob in it. Thanks for the backstory on this innovative company and Fantastic amps.
Another gem! Truly a fantastic and inspiring story.
Very awesome video! I have a boogie that belongs to my father that was one of Keith Richards amps. It was given to him by Clive Davis when my father was signed to Arista Records! One of the best sounding amos I've ever played!
Never considered a boogie before. Definitely need to try em out
Great video. I have an '85 Mk II in the cream tolex and graphic EQ on the front. I'm in SF and need to run it up to Petaluma to get the reverb fixed while they're still around. I've tried everything from tubes to a new tank altogether with success. It's been sitting in my garage for years with it's original cover and looks almost new. I should have them go over it completely and get it up to speed. It's a sweet little monster.
Another great short history the guitar player who put me on to Mesa amps is Woody Weatherman of corrosion of conformity
What about Pepper's 50 Caliber, the best amp ever.
@@thaburntone good point
I got a Mark III c series in the late 80's in NY and then moved to San Francisco. I needed it cleaned up so I drove to Petaluma to Mesa/Boogie and Randall Smith himself "modded" it while I waited. It sounded awesome and I still have it to this day. I have vintage Fender, VOX, Ampeg amps - but still find that my Boogie is a go to to certain tones - especially clean funk and focused crunch.
Moonflower featured the best Carlos tone ever imho :)