I just started with the Arccos trail. So far pretty good but I’m not totally sold on paying for the year yet as I wanted to know more about the CT10s as well. Thanks for the review! Btw James, I’m the dude that bought your Mizuno putter… lovin it! 😊and keep up the course vids!
I have used the CT10 sensors for 3+ years. They have worked flawlessly with no issues. I've only replaced batteries on 2 of them in 3 years. I bought a 3 pack and a year later bought another 3 pack. I use them on my putter, GW, PW, 9, 8, & 7. I highly recommend the CT10's.
I talked witb their support team chat and they were responsive. I ended up having to return them. Couldnt remove the black cap to exchange batteries. They never came on. 😢
Found your video looking for ct10 reviews and couldn't get that bag full of dead ct10s out of my head. I ended up starting with the 3 pack and also found some sensor covers for the ct10s on amazon. The covers are very sturdy and help the sensors from banging around. I haven't had any issues with my sensors yet. *knock on wood* Thought maybe these could help your ct10 sensors stay out of that bag of death!
Genuinely hope your experience is better than mine. I've tried different sets of batteries and ended up ultimately not missing the CT10s since I just click on the club on my watch after every shot now. If they die, the Garmin watch still provides a good way to track on its own. Good luck!
Yes, works great on the putter. Funny enough the sensor for my putter has lasted 2 years with zero issues. Don't even remember changing out the battery.
Hahaha that'd be fun! Unfortunately I mostly spend my time in Socal catching up with friends and family. Haven't brought my golf bag down there very much :(
Well if you want to know your distances you can spend $50 and go into a really good SIM and get dialed in numbers. I think the real value is in keeping track of courses you played, be able to get back and see where on the course you hit your balls, relive your golf rounds and also get quiet good caddie suggestions. On top of that you can compare your stats vs others in different handicap groups to see where you should work on your game. Those are the reasons why you want these, not to learn your distances. You can do that in 45 minutes in a SIM.
You can do all this with just a Garmin watch alone. I still track my rounds in the Garmin Golf app. After every swing the watch will prompt you to ask which club you just used. Since the watch already gives me an avenue to track my clubs, the CT10's job is to make it as convenient as possible for me to do so. Since I've encountered plenty of duds even after putting in multiple new batteries, the CT10 fails at the one job it's supposed to do--make swing tracking convenient.
Buy shotscope, I've been using for 2 years now, just cannot fault it, price very good to, I've got and still use garmin G30, that's good because you can move points to hazards or dog legs ect on course but stat tracking I think shotscope wins, also shotscope seems to have most unobtrusive sensors, their tiny, I think arcos and garmin are like having clubs counter balanced
I'm considering buying a set of these but that bag of dead sensors is crazy. Did you try changing the battery in the sensors that no longer seem to be working?
Haha I should have mentioned that I've tried changing batteries (multiple sources as well, from both Amazon and Target) and the sensors just seem to die. I don't shove my clubs aggressively back into my bag either. I still think they're useful when they're alive, but man, tough to stomach these dying so quick.
Just a guess: maybe the jostling of the bag when on the back of a cart, or semi-rough handling of the bag...when placing it in the car. Possibly even being jostled on a hand cart. After six months of rounds, the bag itself is going to get...what's the word? oh yeah, "jostled"... Thanks for the review...(I just put 14 of these on my clubs so I guess I am going to be a careful as I can. Maybe put a towel or cushion in the bottom of the bag.) @@golfwithjames
@@edwardebel1847 good luck! Hope you have better luck than me. I actually purchased 3 extras (on top of my original 14) and some of my extras died too.
Thanks! I just ordered some 3/4" 12"x 8" foam sheets. I'll cut one to size and try to get it positioned in the bottom of the bag (not an easy task with individual shaft compartments. ) I'll let you know if it worked...next year! :-). BTW, I talked to Garmin an hour ago and the rep told me there is a one year warranty...just sayin'
I'm an electronics repair guy. I don't do a lot of component level repairs. But some. I think a phone repair tech would be a better fit, but if you or anyone has a broken one you'd send to me I can take a look. Never seen inside one, but my first thought is a bad solder or single point of failure based on 1 component. I just got 14 coming tonight from Amazon. If not, I will let you know in 6 months when mine start to break.
I'm not sure if the sensors pair with the phone app, so I can't provide an opinion one way or the other. I will say that if you plan on just having your phone, Arccos might be a better fit for you.
Yes, you can switch it to another club. I am assuming you have a compatible watch? You would simply reset the sensor assignment on your watch whenever you decide to switch the sensor to a different club.
Unfortunately I have. These just aren't very durable or the quality control is just not great. The unit on my putter is somehow still going strong though!
What happens if you hit say a punch 7 iron 130 yards against the wind, but you really hit the 7 170; does it count part of the average distances? I’ve always been curious about that
Yes, it counts it as part of the average. It counts shots from your last 10 or 20 rounds only, so it's a rolling average. For players who struggle with striking the ball consistently, the average yardages might not be as helpful because the chunks/topped shots seem to be included in the average yardages. I believe if they happen occasionally then Garmin excludes those anomalies from the calcs.
I don’t have sensors, I select which club I hit on the watch while walking to my next shot. I have selected a club in the my bag section of the app which I don’t use (5 hybrid) and named it chip out / punch. That way it doesn’t affect my average distances for my clubs. Hope this helps
@@golfwithjamesthis is massively disappointing to hear. Thank God I saw your review. I was seriously tempted to buy these sensors but when I saw the price, decided to do more research.
Hi just wondering your opinion, do you see any value in using the 3 pack for your putter and wedges, using the watches sensor for the rest of the shots? Thanks
I don't see the value for putting sensors on wedges that you use for chipping. The sensor will register your 15 yd chips and add it to the average distance for that club. I'd recommend using the sensors for maybe your putter, pitching wedge, and driver. Alternatively instead of driver you can put it on your lowest lofted iron (5iron?) and then you'll be able to see what gapping might be between your irons. Hope that helps!
I think you 100% need to put it on chipping clubs. It almost never misses full swings but misses a ton inside 50 yards. And a drive is easy to add later anyways (you can see the tee boxes on the map)
The garmin s70 is a great watch. The app and the sensors are lagging behind every other golf app that tracks shots. It am very disappointed with the data you get
The app could definitely use some work. I'm not sure why Garmin isn't pouring more resources into their app. There are a lot of golfers out there who would pay $5/month for an app that provides more meaningful Strokes Gained data.
@@golfwithjames I agree 100% it would be such a great tool if the strokes gained data were more meaningful, right now i feel it is a watch that shows my club distances and gives me green yardages, battery life is amazing
@@soupy01833 Yes! That is actually why I would advocate people who are looking to purchase a watch for golf to either pick up a used Epix Gen 2 instead, or try out the S62, before purchasing the S70. The S70 is a little too specialized for the price tag IMO.
I’m working on an app that imports data from garmin golf and shows you more in depth strokes gained info. Hopefully posting here will make some accountability to keep working on it 😅 Totally agree the app is basically useless
@@golfwithjames Now you got me second guessing these things. Was thinking of getting a set to sync with my watch. Sounded like a good idea, but alas, nothing is too good to be true. If garmin is of no help, what's the sense of spending the money if something goes wrong with them.
I stopped relying on them due to reliability issues. You may still see them on my golf vlogs but only because I was too lazy to take nonfunctioning ones off my clubs. I just use my watch's club tracking prompt now, which is a setting you can enable on your Garmin watch.
@@golfwithjames ok thanks. I have the S62 and my s70 was sitting in a delivery box waiting to be opened. Since my first garmin (ive lost count how many generations Ive had), i felt it was a hassle to input my club, so i turned it off and there's no way i can remember clubs i hit after the round. I may give it another try on the s70.
@@golfwithjames that is very annoying! you should be able to get them replaced. I contacted support too and they told me about the batteries. Ive had them 10ish months so far? Im actually pretty happy with how they work outside putter (i had to grind one down and tape it onto a super stroke putter grip and it misses like half the putts). Probably 40 rounds and 1000s of hits in a net/range so the new batteries are doign pretty well
Did you replace the batteries in them? It fixed all my problems.
This is a common question I receive, and yes, I tried multiple brands of batteries before throwing several of them in the discard pile.
@@golfwithjames amazon sensors are not genuine garmin inside. They are chinese knock offs. Emailed Garmin to find this out.
I just started with the Arccos trail. So far pretty good but I’m not totally sold on paying for the year yet as I wanted to know more about the CT10s as well. Thanks for the review!
Btw James, I’m the dude that bought your Mizuno putter… lovin it! 😊and keep up the course vids!
Lloyd! Dude glad to hear the putter is treating you well. Those Mizuno putters feel so good at contact
I have used the CT10 sensors for 3+ years. They have worked flawlessly with no issues. I've only replaced batteries on 2 of them in 3 years. I bought a 3 pack and a year later bought another 3 pack. I use them on my putter, GW, PW, 9, 8, & 7. I highly recommend the CT10's.
Funny enough the sensor on my putter has stayed strong for 2 years. I'm more disappointed in not getting a response from Garmin after I reached out.
I talked witb their support team chat and they were responsive. I ended up having to return them. Couldnt remove the black cap to exchange batteries. They never came on. 😢
Found your video looking for ct10 reviews and couldn't get that bag full of dead ct10s out of my head. I ended up starting with the 3 pack and also found some sensor covers for the ct10s on amazon. The covers are very sturdy and help the sensors from banging around. I haven't had any issues with my sensors yet. *knock on wood* Thought maybe these could help your ct10 sensors stay out of that bag of death!
Genuinely hope your experience is better than mine. I've tried different sets of batteries and ended up ultimately not missing the CT10s since I just click on the club on my watch after every shot now. If they die, the Garmin watch still provides a good way to track on its own. Good luck!
I really just want one CT10 for my putter. Does it work on the putter accurately??
Yes, works great on the putter. Funny enough the sensor for my putter has lasted 2 years with zero issues. Don't even remember changing out the battery.
if your ever in socal we should get a collab round in, you thrashing me on 18 holes would be fun to watch lol
Hahaha that'd be fun! Unfortunately I mostly spend my time in Socal catching up with friends and family. Haven't brought my golf bag down there very much :(
@@golfwithjames no worries I get that I don't travel with my bag often either but my local course has Callaway paradym rentals lol
Well if you want to know your distances you can spend $50 and go into a really good SIM and get dialed in numbers. I think the real value is in keeping track of courses you played, be able to get back and see where on the course you hit your balls, relive your golf rounds and also get quiet good caddie suggestions. On top of that you can compare your stats vs others in different handicap groups to see where you should work on your game. Those are the reasons why you want these, not to learn your distances. You can do that in 45 minutes in a SIM.
You can do all this with just a Garmin watch alone. I still track my rounds in the Garmin Golf app. After every swing the watch will prompt you to ask which club you just used. Since the watch already gives me an avenue to track my clubs, the CT10's job is to make it as convenient as possible for me to do so. Since I've encountered plenty of duds even after putting in multiple new batteries, the CT10 fails at the one job it's supposed to do--make swing tracking convenient.
Did you change the batteries...
As mentioned in the video, yes. I tried several brands as well to make sure it wasn't a battery issue.
Was about to buy this… but I agree with you.. 6 months is not worth it at all.
Thanks for the review. 6 months life span is a big no to me. I think I will stick with my new S70 watch instead.
The watch on its own is still great for tracking your shots, so not a bad route to go!
Buy shotscope, I've been using for 2 years now, just cannot fault it, price very good to, I've got and still use garmin G30, that's good because you can move points to hazards or dog legs ect on course but stat tracking I think shotscope wins, also shotscope seems to have most unobtrusive sensors, their tiny, I think arcos and garmin are like having clubs counter balanced
Did you purchase these from amazon?
I just got the S70 its on the way so I was just wondering if i really need them with the S70 or not??
Try it without it first! Just add your clubs in the app first, then select club prompt on the settings of your watch.
I'm considering buying a set of these but that bag of dead sensors is crazy. Did you try changing the battery in the sensors that no longer seem to be working?
Haha I should have mentioned that I've tried changing batteries (multiple sources as well, from both Amazon and Target) and the sensors just seem to die. I don't shove my clubs aggressively back into my bag either. I still think they're useful when they're alive, but man, tough to stomach these dying so quick.
Just a guess: maybe the jostling of the bag when on the back of a cart, or semi-rough handling of the bag...when placing it in the car. Possibly even being jostled on a hand cart. After six months of rounds, the bag itself is going to get...what's the word? oh yeah, "jostled"... Thanks for the review...(I just put 14 of these on my clubs so I guess I am going to be a careful as I can. Maybe put a towel or cushion in the bottom of the bag.) @@golfwithjames
@@edwardebel1847 good luck! Hope you have better luck than me. I actually purchased 3 extras (on top of my original 14) and some of my extras died too.
Thanks! I just ordered some 3/4" 12"x 8" foam sheets. I'll cut one to size and try to get it positioned in the bottom of the bag (not an easy task with individual shaft compartments. ) I'll let you know if it worked...next year! :-). BTW, I talked to Garmin an hour ago and the rep told me there is a one year warranty...just sayin'
I'm an electronics repair guy. I don't do a lot of component level repairs. But some. I think a phone repair tech would be a better fit, but if you or anyone has a broken one you'd send to me I can take a look. Never seen inside one, but my first thought is a bad solder or single point of failure based on 1 component. I just got 14 coming tonight from Amazon. If not, I will let you know in 6 months when mine start to break.
Would you recommend them if you don't have a Garmin watch, just want to use the Garmin golf app on your phone?
I'm not sure if the sensors pair with the phone app, so I can't provide an opinion one way or the other. I will say that if you plan on just having your phone, Arccos might be a better fit for you.
I would like to buy the starter kit (3 sensors). May I switch the sensor to another club? May I use the same sensor for different clubs? Thanks
Yes, you can switch it to another club. I am assuming you have a compatible watch? You would simply reset the sensor assignment on your watch whenever you decide to switch the sensor to a different club.
@@golfwithjames Thanks
have you changed the batteries
Unfortunately I have. These just aren't very durable or the quality control is just not great. The unit on my putter is somehow still going strong though!
Thanks for this review. The durability aspect is huge for me. So these are worthless .
Absolutely. If you have the Garmin watch it's pretty seamless to track your clubs via the club prompt function within the watch. Rarely misses a shot
What happens if you hit say a punch 7 iron 130 yards against the wind, but you really hit the 7 170; does it count part of the average distances? I’ve always been curious about that
Yes, it counts it as part of the average. It counts shots from your last 10 or 20 rounds only, so it's a rolling average. For players who struggle with striking the ball consistently, the average yardages might not be as helpful because the chunks/topped shots seem to be included in the average yardages. I believe if they happen occasionally then Garmin excludes those anomalies from the calcs.
I don’t have sensors, I select which club I hit on the watch while walking to my next shot. I have selected a club in the my bag section of the app which I don’t use (5 hybrid) and named it chip out / punch. That way it doesn’t affect my average distances for my clubs. Hope this helps
@@stuartyboy8301 that's a great idea actually. I'm going to do this as well
What's the warranty on these things? Surely if they break in the first 12 months they should replace with new?
I wish man. I contacted their support and never heard back. Incredibly disappointing.
@@golfwithjamesthis is massively disappointing to hear. Thank God I saw your review. I was seriously tempted to buy these sensors but when I saw the price, decided to do more research.
@@Labgorilla Just bought my CT10 sensors through Walmart for $230. I've tried them for two rounds this week and are working as expected.
Hi just wondering your opinion, do you see any value in using the 3 pack for your putter and wedges, using the watches sensor for the rest of the shots? Thanks
I don't see the value for putting sensors on wedges that you use for chipping. The sensor will register your 15 yd chips and add it to the average distance for that club. I'd recommend using the sensors for maybe your putter, pitching wedge, and driver. Alternatively instead of driver you can put it on your lowest lofted iron (5iron?) and then you'll be able to see what gapping might be between your irons. Hope that helps!
I think you 100% need to put it on chipping clubs. It almost never misses full swings but misses a ton inside 50 yards. And a drive is easy to add later anyways (you can see the tee boxes on the map)
The garmin s70 is a great watch. The app and the sensors are lagging behind every other golf app that tracks shots. It am very disappointed with the data you get
The app could definitely use some work. I'm not sure why Garmin isn't pouring more resources into their app. There are a lot of golfers out there who would pay $5/month for an app that provides more meaningful Strokes Gained data.
@@golfwithjames I agree 100% it would be such a great tool if the strokes gained data were more meaningful, right now i feel it is a watch that shows my club distances and gives me green yardages, battery life is amazing
@@soupy01833 Yes! That is actually why I would advocate people who are looking to purchase a watch for golf to either pick up a used Epix Gen 2 instead, or try out the S62, before purchasing the S70. The S70 is a little too specialized for the price tag IMO.
I’m working on an app that imports data from garmin golf and shows you more in depth strokes gained info. Hopefully posting here will make some accountability to keep working on it 😅
Totally agree the app is basically useless
@@PJo336 i would use it. I love the watch, the app i dont
Did you bother change the batteries in the sensors??
Yes, that is the first thing I checked. I also checked different brands of batteries to make sure it wasn't a battery issue.
@@golfwithjames Now you got me second guessing these things. Was thinking of getting a set to sync with my watch. Sounded like a good idea, but alas, nothing is too good to be true. If garmin is of no help, what's the sense of spending the money if something goes wrong with them.
i wounder how the arcoss sensors stack up to these, i know TaylorMade will through them in on new set, and cobra used them too
I've heard the data Arccos gives you in terms of Strokes Gained is pretty helpful. The Garmin app isn't very useful for SG data
its been 9 months since you posted this vid. Have the sensors continued to malfunction or require more to be replaced? Thanks
I stopped relying on them due to reliability issues. You may still see them on my golf vlogs but only because I was too lazy to take nonfunctioning ones off my clubs. I just use my watch's club tracking prompt now, which is a setting you can enable on your Garmin watch.
@@golfwithjames ok thanks. I have the S62 and my s70 was sitting in a delivery box waiting to be opened. Since my first garmin (ive lost count how many generations Ive had), i felt it was a hassle to input my club, so i turned it off and there's no way i can remember clubs i hit after the round. I may give it another try on the s70.
@@golfwithjamescan you go over how to add the prompt on a watch? I’m using Felix 7s hopefully it’s available on that
Are you sure the sensors are dead? You can replace the batteries. Mine came in almost all dead but have all worked perfectly replacing the batteries
To me that’s actually the biggest value add over arccos. I can keep replacing batteries forever rather than needing new sensors when they die
Yes! I've switched batteries a few times. How long have you had yours?
@@golfwithjames that is very annoying! you should be able to get them replaced. I contacted support too and they told me about the batteries.
Ive had them 10ish months so far? Im actually pretty happy with how they work outside putter (i had to grind one down and tape it onto a super stroke putter grip and it misses like half the putts). Probably 40 rounds and 1000s of hits in a net/range so the new batteries are doign pretty well
lost like 10 of thiese things over the last year