Hi, I purchased a Thor Rize 18M in November 2021. It is the same as your Scope. I have had more than a dozen deficiencies (internal water line leaks, roof leaks, a mix of other issues). I had contacted Thor and the RV dealer. While waiting weeks for a service appointment, I decided to investigate the issues myself. The more that I scrutinized the Rize, the more issues I discovered. Fortunately, I was able to correct most of the issues easily. My perspective is that more attention to detail during manufacturing would have prevented all of them. As I write this message, I am in Arizona with my Rize (from my home base in Orlando FL), and I am pleased with the Rize.
Very good info, we want to get a pull behind camper next year. Good info to think about ahead of time, and making sure we get what we want and need. Thanks for the video!
I mean you can Facebook message me for my number anytime. We just bought a house a year ago, new used vehicle 2 weeks ago, I'm not ready for a van/rv payment 🤣😂 I do pretty well, but not that well lol.
The 18 M would be ideal for me, but after reading many reviews regarding the lack of quality, (confirmed by your feedback) there's no way I'll buy one. Thanks for being honest. I have to wonder if/when the manufacturers will get their acts together? Safe travels!
Great video and lots of tips. Our van is due perhaps within the month here in the UK but there are so many delays and I'm certain there will be issues but like you say - you've got to check everything. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to leave comments. Thanks for watching. Wish you the best with your new van! Let us know what you get and if we can ever help out!
All RVs have issues but as long as customer service is good you can take care of the problems. I've been looking to buy Class B but haven't decided yet.
Thank you for posting these videos! My husband and I have been shopping around and thought this van (the 18G) was the one for us. Hmmm. Now I'm a little hesitant. Would you still recommend the Thor product? We are brand new to the game--never owned a drivable RV before. Had an old Airstream briefly and discovered that a pull-behind is NOT for us. Need something small and nimble. We love the price point of the Scope... are you still happy with your purchase?
Yes. I think we got one with a few issues and it was terrible process to get it fixed at the particular dealer, however I was on the phone with a lady from Thor every day and she was great, overnighted parts was eager to help, it was the dEALER determined to make the experience miserable. So to answer YES, I still like Thor products.
Recently picked up a 2023 Winnebago Travato 59G. So far so good with two short trips and one big one this coming spring. If the repair was real minor, I'd probably do it myself instead of waiting so long.
my Thor Tellaro has been a nightmare to own. In the year I've owned it I've counted 17 major defects that came from the factory, including the entire electrical system not working ( no lights/heat/cooking/ AC or DC, no fridge or TV either). It's been in the shop for over six months. Last week a factory technician flew out from Indiana to Seattle to try and fix it- he failed. I've hired a lawyer and we are filing a lawsuit this week. DO NOT BUY A THOR!!!!
Ouch. So sorry to hear this. This is baddddddd for sure. Hope it gets handled. I thought about driving up to Indiana myself. It has taken a year to get our van stuff fixed, we had a list just as long as you. Crazy. They need to practice quality and not quantity. I would wait longer to get one if I knew I could rely on the craftsmanship. Good luck to you!
I'm sorry to hear what you've gone through. I was a cable man who installed wiring before I'm now an engineer. I can tell you that a rat's nest wiring is no way to troubleshoot other than pull them out and redo it. Unfortunately, Thor and less reputable RVs have similar chaotic wiring behind the walls.
Thanks for the tips. I also just bought a Thor 18m and noticed there was no spare tire. I heard you ordered one. However, where will you place it or mount it?
I am getting a great tire mount that hooks to left back door. But since we r leaving for a big trip I ordered a temp fix a Curt hitch where tire is mounted in the center of back bumper.
I couldn’t believe all the water coming down from the ceiling fan? Don’t companies even check for water leaks before they give 150 K van to the consumer??? 🙈🥶
That’s exactly what I asked the corporate offices when I called and reminded them it said they both have their own inspection locations. Dunno. Leak has stopped fan still needs work unfortunately. Thanks for watching the vid and taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate it.
When we buy cheap we get cheap. I realize even a Thor is major money, but looking at this video I can see the fit and finish is sub-par. It pays to do our homework before spending a lot of money on any major purchase. Feel sorry for these folks. Hope their problems with this rv are resolved soon.
I was looking at a class b RV for the exact same reasons. I want to just go! Stop where I want to stop for however long I want to be there. Plus I’d be able to go through cities and beaches and park in any regular spot. You can’t do that with a typical RV. Plus who wants to tow when you can have the convenience of having something like this? I won’t deny this had me concerned being that we’d be a first time RV owner. 😮 I wondered if you knew what the difference between the Scope and Rize. They seem exactly the same. I was actually looking at the 18G model.
@@TatesTravelYou have no regrets even after the downpour? I’m actually looking at the 18M now. Do you recommend? Curious, is there enough room for 2 people to sleep when the sofa converts to the bed? Do you know the dimensions?
@@TatesTravel and you’re still loving it? Thor has a negative reputation so I’m concerned about going with Thor but the fact is that many manufacturers fall under the Thor umbrella. I really wanted something this size and there aren’t many options with this floor plan.
Inexcusable major issues time after time. I’m surely NOT going to buy this model or even test drive one. I hope you’re enjoying some satisfaction after all the misery it has caused your family 🙏🏻❤️✝️
Thanks for sharing this. The length of this van is great, very easy to park almost anywhere. How do you like the bed, is it fit good for 2 person (6ft and 5.5ft) ? I watched this video (ruclips.net/video/n8nh9TmRVtw/видео.html) and it seems like it's very hassle to set it up.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. We have been on our journey out west the last month and a half and are loving the van! She has held up nice and we have put her through hail, tornados, dirt roads, rocky roads and mountains galore! 6 foot no problem. I’m only 5-08 but I think it’s fine. Lots of room!
We have been on the road from Florida to Texas up to Montana and just left South Dakota. A month and a half so far and the Thor is holding up and we are enjoying it! With any van I’m sure there are problems, we just keep going and having fun!
Hi, I purchased a Thor Rize 18M in November 2021. It is the same as your Scope. I have had more than a dozen deficiencies (internal water line leaks, roof leaks, a mix of other issues). I had contacted Thor and the RV dealer. While waiting weeks for a service appointment, I decided to investigate the issues myself. The more that I scrutinized the Rize, the more issues I discovered. Fortunately, I was able to correct most of the issues easily. My perspective is that more attention to detail during manufacturing would have prevented all of them. As I write this message, I am in Arizona with my Rize (from my home base in Orlando FL), and I am pleased with the Rize.
Totally agree with you 100%. Quality over Quantity!
No regrets?
No regrets?
No
Very good info, we want to get a pull behind camper next year. Good info to think about ahead of time, and making sure we get what we want and need. Thanks for the video!
Thank you! Let me know the best way to communicate with ya! We follow your FB and love that baby!
And u should totally get a van and you can pull a trailer with ur mowers behind lol
I mean you can Facebook message me for my number anytime. We just bought a house a year ago, new used vehicle 2 weeks ago, I'm not ready for a van/rv payment 🤣😂 I do pretty well, but not that well lol.
Lol
The 18 M would be ideal for me, but after reading many reviews regarding the lack of quality, (confirmed by your feedback) there's no way I'll buy one. Thanks for being honest. I have to wonder if/when the manufacturers will get their acts together? Safe travels!
We still do love it despite all the issues. We seemed to have tackled most of them, not the bed yet but working on it, lol!
Great video and lots of tips. Our van is due perhaps within the month here in the UK but there are so many delays and I'm certain there will be issues but like you say - you've got to check everything. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to leave comments. Thanks for watching. Wish you the best with your new van! Let us know what you get and if we can ever help out!
We ❤ you guys! Cant wait to see the new videos on the next LONG trip.
Thank you so much!
All RVs have issues but as long as customer service is good you can take care of the problems. I've been looking to buy Class B but haven't decided yet.
Absolutely right! If they communicate well without promising, just lay it out there It would have been a much better experience!
Storyteller Overlander brand is best quality for a manufactured camper van
Thank you for posting these videos! My husband and I have been shopping around and thought this van (the 18G) was the one for us. Hmmm. Now I'm a little hesitant. Would you still recommend the Thor product? We are brand new to the game--never owned a drivable RV before. Had an old Airstream briefly and discovered that a pull-behind is NOT for us. Need something small and nimble. We love the price point of the Scope... are you still happy with your purchase?
Yes. I think we got one with a few issues and it was terrible process to get it fixed at the particular dealer, however I was on the phone with a lady from Thor every day and she was great, overnighted parts was eager to help, it was the dEALER determined to make the experience miserable. So to answer YES, I still like Thor products.
Would you buy the scope again? I like the layout and I'm single.
Yes we would! Definitely
Recently picked up a 2023 Winnebago Travato 59G. So far so good with two short trips and one big one this coming spring. If the repair was real minor, I'd probably do it myself instead of waiting so long.
Winnebago by far is better than thour
I’m learning to do just that lol
my Thor Tellaro has been a nightmare to own. In the year I've owned it I've counted 17 major defects that came from the factory, including the entire electrical system not working ( no lights/heat/cooking/ AC or DC, no fridge or TV either). It's been in the shop for over six months. Last week a factory technician flew out from Indiana to Seattle to try and fix it- he failed. I've hired a lawyer and we are filing a lawsuit this week.
DO NOT BUY A THOR!!!!
Ouch. So sorry to hear this. This is baddddddd for sure. Hope it gets handled. I thought about driving up to Indiana myself. It has taken a year to get our van stuff fixed, we had a list just as long as you. Crazy. They need to practice quality and not quantity. I would wait longer to get one if I knew I could rely on the craftsmanship. Good luck to you!
Are these class B subject to state lemon laws? That may be a cheaper route if you can get your State Attorney General involved.
I'm sorry to hear what you've gone through. I was a cable man who installed wiring before I'm now an engineer. I can tell you that a rat's nest wiring is no way to troubleshoot other than pull them out and redo it. Unfortunately, Thor and less reputable RVs have similar chaotic wiring behind the walls.
So sad. I was considering purchssing a Grech class B but heard lately they have roof leaks too.
It’s fixed now no leaks but have to check everything no matter what you buy these days!
I have seen a mattress than you can get that goes across the front seats that your grandson may fit on. This is the van model that I like the best.
Nice can u send a link if you still have it?
Thanks for the tips. I also just bought a Thor 18m and noticed there was no spare tire. I heard you ordered one. However, where will you place it or mount it?
I am getting a great tire mount that hooks to left back door. But since we r leaving for a big trip I ordered a temp fix a Curt hitch where tire is mounted in the center of back bumper.
@@TatesTravel thanks for the tip, hopefully I will get a chance to see it in your future videos.
I had the same issue with removing that sticker. I just covered it up with decorative stickers.
Ha! We had a little sign up over it for a bit but it really bothered me! So bad!!! Lol
I couldn’t believe all the water coming down from the ceiling fan? Don’t companies even check for water leaks before they give 150 K van to the consumer??? 🙈🥶
That’s exactly what I asked the corporate offices when I called and reminded them it said they both have their own inspection locations. Dunno. Leak has stopped fan still needs work unfortunately. Thanks for watching the vid and taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate it.
Thor may have customer service but that does not make up for the shoddy work!
saw a new $130k priced Thor Camper Van at RV show. quickly knew it was junk.
Which one?
When we buy cheap we get cheap. I realize even a Thor is major money, but looking at this video I can see the fit and finish is sub-par. It pays to do our homework before spending a lot of money on any major purchase. Feel sorry for these folks. Hope their problems with this rv are resolved soon.
Me too. LOL. But it did great out west for two months!
I was looking at a class b RV for the exact same reasons. I want to just go! Stop where I want to stop for however long I want to be there. Plus I’d be able to go through cities and beaches and park in any regular spot. You can’t do that with a typical RV. Plus who wants to tow when you can have the convenience of having something like this? I won’t deny this had me concerned being that we’d be a first time RV owner. 😮 I wondered if you knew what the difference between the Scope and Rize. They seem exactly the same. I was actually looking at the 18G model.
Going on three years and still we love traveling in the Scope. The Rize is very similar diff colors and schemes is all.
@@TatesTravelYou have no regrets even after the downpour? I’m actually looking at the 18M now. Do you recommend? Curious, is there enough room for 2 people to sleep when the sofa converts to the bed? Do you know the dimensions?
@@monicae67 My wife and I find we have plenty of room. Size is 44" x 70" I think.
@@TatesTravel and you’re still loving it? Thor has a negative reputation so I’m concerned about going with Thor but the fact is that many manufacturers fall under the Thor umbrella. I really wanted something this size and there aren’t many options with this floor plan.
This is good data, thanks. Also good info from the comments below. It sounds like the problem is Thor.
Thanks.
I just paid 101000 for a rize class b now seeing listed for 85000 😅
Ugh
Is it new or used ?
We bought it new
Inexcusable major issues time after time. I’m surely NOT going to buy this model or even test drive one. I hope you’re enjoying some satisfaction after all the misery it has caused your family 🙏🏻❤️✝️
Thanks for sharing this. The length of this van is great, very easy to park almost anywhere. How do you like the bed, is it fit good for 2 person (6ft and 5.5ft) ? I watched this video (ruclips.net/video/n8nh9TmRVtw/видео.html) and it seems like it's very hassle to set it up.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. We have been on our journey out west the last month and a half and are loving the van! She has held up nice and we have put her through hail, tornados, dirt roads, rocky roads and mountains galore! 6 foot no problem. I’m only 5-08 but I think it’s fine. Lots of room!
I'd have put a tarp over the top of the van
I would've brought it right back to them immediately
We did, and then we did, and then we did until all better!
@@TatesTravel ;
:)
So in other words.. Stay away from Thor!
We have been on the road from Florida to Texas up to Montana and just left South Dakota. A month and a half so far and the Thor is holding up and we are enjoying it! With any van I’m sure there are problems, we just keep going and having fun!
Van nightmare!!!
LOL
Talk about the inside RAINFOREST-YIKES.what caused that?
When the dealership fixed the broke motor on the ceiling fan! They had to reset it and apply sealant better. No leak now (knock on wood)
Sad to spend so much n y get that many problems 😢
Doing better now but took a while!