The Truth About Project+'s New Update...

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  • @arnox4554
    @arnox4554 16 дней назад +17

    > "Hey, bring back Fox's one frame of intangibility on shine like he had in Melee. :D"
    > *team nerfs Fox's d-air*
    ...

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 17 дней назад +12

    Making Link a below-average weight just doesn't feel right, especially when Toon Link already does that.

  • @themetapod
    @themetapod 16 дней назад +10

    YO AINT NO WAY LINK IS LIGHTER THAN MARIO NOW

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 14 дней назад

      mario got a weight nerf as well though. mario is 95 and link is 99

  • @dankl3ss194
    @dankl3ss194 17 дней назад +76

    Can't believe it's been 3 years and they won't add Lyn or Isaac

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack 17 дней назад +5

      That’s because PMEX did that.

    • @dankl3ss194
      @dankl3ss194 17 дней назад +21

      @@GlitchanBlack not at the quality of p+ just another 1 of those unpolish character out of the 50+

    • @normalperson7
      @normalperson7 17 дней назад +2

      takes a lot od time

    • @BboP_
      @BboP_ 17 дней назад +32

      Damn even fan mods aren’t safe from “WHEN ARE THEY GONNA ADD X CHARACTER!!”

    • @dankl3ss194
      @dankl3ss194 17 дней назад

      @@normalperson7 Yeah hopefully Knux isn't the last one

  • @orlanyanielrodriguezmejia616
    @orlanyanielrodriguezmejia616 17 дней назад +19

    13 years of project M and still no Waluigi

  • @Bobbles9498
    @Bobbles9498 17 дней назад +19

    This channel has so much work put into it, im very glad i can be here for the ride to becoming one of the biggest smash channels, Thank you so much for all the honest content, we all know theres lots of work put into it!

  • @Brob2nd
    @Brob2nd 17 дней назад +24

    Puff got a weight buff, now the stats going from 62 to 64, and more knockback for his back throw, going from 25 to 30, as a Puff main: yippie

    • @wigglytuffenjoyer
      @wigglytuffenjoyer 17 дней назад +1

      You mean I’m not the only puff main in P+? I thought we went extinct!

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 16 дней назад

      @@wigglytuffenjoyer A midwestern player who goes by the simple name of Michael is a Jigglypuff main. Used to play the character a lot years ago, don’t know if I ever called
      myself a Jigglypuff main. I didn’t enter tournaments, so IDK if I count. By the way, how do you think Wigglytuff would play if it was added?

  • @ashemabahumat4173
    @ashemabahumat4173 17 дней назад +6

    >they nerfed ganon
    ...the fuckin temerity...

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana 17 дней назад +3

    I like the fact that the P+ team gave K. Rool's back throw to Wolf in this update

  • @AllBladesCut
    @AllBladesCut 17 дней назад +6

    If ur main wasn’t touched then u won this patch which is weird to think about

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 14 дней назад +3

    Hey Zack, this was mentioned in the P+ discord, but you might want to somewhat remake this video or pin a comment or something. In the change to the ledge grab invincibility, you said that you lose invincibility when doing double jumps, but that's actually not the case, you're just timing the hits really late.
    The real nerf is that when you do the ledge jump and an aerial afterwards, that is where the invincibility carry-over got removed. As marth, you can still do drop-ledge mid air jump fair and still have invincibilty on it, but not if you do ledge jump fair.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  14 дней назад +2

      That's fair, tbh I wrote the script the day the update came out, so I might've understood the change wrong.

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 17 дней назад +12

    A lot of the nerfs were really good. Project m gets a lot of complaints for being too easy and part of that is the strong-ish recoveries and some of the easy kill confirms. The nerfs intended to cut back on some of those more obnoxious features while still making the characters good.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 15 дней назад

      Then they nerf Fox for no reason again.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 14 дней назад +1

      @@justice8718 1. He gets buffed from the stacked knockback no longer applying full hitstun when sliding to the ground like melee (which is a buff for him because he's a fast faller) 2.not for no reason, it's just to allign the hitboxes with the hurboxes more so he has less of a disjoint. For fox, it's the most minor of nerfs, and nothing to really worry about.

  • @comiclysmallspoon6652
    @comiclysmallspoon6652 17 дней назад +6

    as a ness main this is certaintly an update

  • @Mike-sp7zv
    @Mike-sp7zv 17 дней назад +8

    Glad they are updating in general. Hope they update it for 20+ years

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 16 дней назад

      would be nice but the people who play this professionally want less and less changes and for the meta to become as developed as Melee

    • @Mike-sp7zv
      @Mike-sp7zv 16 дней назад +1

      @@protocetid that's a narrow vision. This game could be one of the best smash games of all time. As more people are getting into PC gaming, the base will grow IF there is continuous support and content. Leaving it as is will be wasted potential to make something great.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 16 дней назад

      @@Mike-sp7zv From my point of view (and I'm sure the P+ pros would agree) it's already the best Smash. From what I have heard it is likely going to get rollback netcode in a few years, so that should convince more people that P+ is king. Don’t get me wrong, I have my own wishlist of fighters and maybe the developers like to dream about newcomers a little too.
      Competitive players have criticized the game for not having a developed meta game, and not just Melee players. In my efforts to break into the competitive side of the game, I've learned why this crowd has opinions that are unusual to us casuals. A developed meta is attractive to competitive players because then they know exactly how to handle their character and their opponent’s. Solving the meta is fun sure, but some players don’t like the uncertainty and vagueness that comes with a game that hasn’t been figured out.

  • @miningboy
    @miningboy 16 дней назад +2

    My dream modpack for Brawl modding in the future is every character, stage, and music from the official smash games in the project m engine, kinda like HDR for Ultimate

  • @lordcownostril331
    @lordcownostril331 17 дней назад +2

    INSANE editing! Great video! How did you get all the character green screens?? 😵‍💫

  • @thetouffe316
    @thetouffe316 15 дней назад +1

    They finally made Samus playable (for melee players), this update is a blessing

  • @buckledben
    @buckledben 17 дней назад +16

    I think its good the devs aren’t afraid to nerf characters to prevent power-creep

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 16 дней назад +1

      Yeah but some of these are just weird. For example why does Link's d-air have one point less of damage? What's the point of that? Did Link REALLY need any kind of nerf at all? How about bringing back Fox's one frame of intangibility on shine like he had in Melee? It would almost completely bring full consistency between his Melee and P+ incarnations, but instead his d-air hitbox got nerfed...
      I don't want to just complain though because there's a ton of great changes here with the foremost perhaps being the removal of that dumb one-frame physics delay. Thank goodness for that. It'll do a lot for responsiveness.

    • @razorn6247
      @razorn6247 16 дней назад +1

      Honestly pretty irritating that they haven't made the melee characters at least the same as they are in Melee and keep nerfing Wolf...

    • @mkz6258
      @mkz6258 16 дней назад +1

      @@arnox4554 still begging for PM fox to get buffed in 2024 is insane ngl

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 15 дней назад

      @@mkz6258 I gotta lie, this is a great take.

  • @wrongpaw1160
    @wrongpaw1160 16 дней назад +1

    I'm a Lucario main, and you have no idea the amount of rage I had built up after seeing the d-air and Up-special nerfs D:

  • @trashstarlazy
    @trashstarlazy 16 дней назад

    the pit change is actually the distance at which arrow pops up. its still active till it goes off stage or collides with something it, u just have to be closer if u want arrow to pop up for arrow up smash confirms.

  • @robotboi1247
    @robotboi1247 17 дней назад

    I was not expecting to hear you use splatoon music, a pleasant surprise!

  • @sikeyouthought2484
    @sikeyouthought2484 13 дней назад

    Sonic had so many nerfs that only a few got touched upon. Dash attack got nerfed and by proxy his Gatling Dacus combo got gutted past mid percent.

  • @Mangocheese19
    @Mangocheese19 5 дней назад +1

    Why would they Massacre dedede for this?

  • @Freeraining-og7uh
    @Freeraining-og7uh 17 дней назад +5

    Will there be a new P+ tier list?

  • @ekubo954
    @ekubo954 17 дней назад +8

    13:40 Thicc ahh hurtboxes 💀💀

    • @MrDrLuigi_
      @MrDrLuigi_ 16 дней назад

      Why does she have an ASS hurtbox? 😂

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed 17 дней назад +1

    Not a big fan of the changes but I can still enjoy it. I'm on the fence with changing my main to Ganondorf for this.

  • @Monke_ssbm1477
    @Monke_ssbm1477 17 дней назад

    Youre a ness main?!!! Surely you know the goat Ryzuul, great video btw

  • @lorenzodellisola8199
    @lorenzodellisola8199 17 дней назад

    the lucas magnet "buff" you stated that stalls his vertical momentum practically patched out multimag😿

  • @R4NK4Z
    @R4NK4Z 16 дней назад +1

    removing the spike hitbox from ikes downair? what is that supposed to balance??
    its supposed to knock opponents downwards so make it a meteor at least like with all the other spike to meteor nerfs

    • @humandsoundboard
      @humandsoundboard 14 дней назад

      its a meteor now

    • @R4NK4Z
      @R4NK4Z 14 дней назад

      @@humandsoundboard oh ok
      guess it was a little inaccurately formulated in this video

  • @Mr.D0rAdE517
    @Mr.D0rAdE517 17 дней назад +7

    Reste In Peace Donkey Kong You Were Strong You Were Strong 💪.

  • @lewisbirkett4428
    @lewisbirkett4428 16 дней назад +1

    dayum zss's butt hitboxes

  • @adrianrenard1262
    @adrianrenard1262 17 дней назад

    Im happy because I main Samus but at the same I pretty much use all the rosters besides olimar, wario and meta knight soooo more sadness than happiness

  • @WTH1music
    @WTH1music 17 дней назад

    I look forward to the new tier list vid so I can have an opinion on this discourse

  • @mileswoodley8751
    @mileswoodley8751 17 дней назад +3

    how do you get the greenscreen’s of the characters?

    • @YauDerAllerEchte
      @YauDerAllerEchte 17 дней назад

      Im also curious tell us honest content

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 16 дней назад

      maybe a custom stage that’s all green

  • @linguine4500
    @linguine4500 10 дней назад

    They removed Wolf from the game

  • @Fedivdicher
    @Fedivdicher 17 дней назад +1

    They made Samus thicker

  • @DinkyKnag
    @DinkyKnag 17 дней назад

    I have read and reread what Bowser's change was in the patch, since he's my main, but I still don't get it. A well, it was only one thing, and Bowser is still great as ever.

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 17 дней назад +1

    They absolutely neutered Wolf. I won't be playing this patch ever!

  • @HNcomics
    @HNcomics 17 дней назад +1

    I play bowser. I love this update :)

  • @silverbladeO2
    @silverbladeO2 17 дней назад

    11:39 Wait... Sheik was Peach this whole time????!!!!

  • @DidYouSeeGrant
    @DidYouSeeGrant 17 дней назад +1

    goat smash channel

  • @Magikarp-4ever
    @Magikarp-4ever 17 дней назад +1

    Oh YAY!!!!!! ITS BRAWL!!!!!!!

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 17 дней назад

    Buff zero suit LETS GOOO

  • @lyrabelacqua4120
    @lyrabelacqua4120 17 дней назад

    I envy your work ethic

  • @tastyfalcon1788
    @tastyfalcon1788 16 дней назад

    As a Mario player, his nerfs were very fair

  • @nathan-lf7yc
    @nathan-lf7yc 17 дней назад

    They made zeldas fireball a little faster whoopdi doo

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp 17 дней назад

    I love this Super Smash Brothers game!

  • @FabsterCola
    @FabsterCola 17 дней назад +4

    This is the first version of P+ I am playing so can't compare it to the previous version. I will say I am having lots of fun with it. Still figuring out which character I will main, but I narrowed it down to Dedede, Marth or Sheik will need to play more with those three to see which one I like the most and want to hone my skills with. The aerial attack removing ledge invincibility is something I didn't know about so that's something I can take with me while learning this game.

  • @shadowxtulhybridtheoryep2780
    @shadowxtulhybridtheoryep2780 16 дней назад

    Poor luigi

  • @humandsoundboard
    @humandsoundboard 16 дней назад

    you only lose invincibility if you perform an attack from tourney winner not from what you said, you can still perform aerials with invencibility by just letting go ledge and jumping like falcon knee for example and the timing didn’t change so stop the copium, and for people that are crying about nerfs they were very much needed lol, nerf lucario again btw

  • @PizzaTimeTheater690
    @PizzaTimeTheater690 17 дней назад

    3 years of P+ and no Dishonest Content

  • @Rob-qe3cg
    @Rob-qe3cg 17 дней назад +1

    They took the first hit off of ganondorf's uptilt. Supposedly he had some sort of shield break with it? But I defy you to find me one clip from any important match where it mattered. It feels like a nerf because someone lost a game they didn't like and went on a crusade to take tools from a C tier because it hurt their feelings personally. I don't understand how people look at most high tiers tools and justify it all by saying "learn to play around it" then look at some middle of the road heavy hitter and say "yeah, can't let this guy have anything, it's too hard to play around this niche shield break scenario."

  • @CakeKid57
    @CakeKid57 14 дней назад

    i ❤️ my waddle dees

  • @jeremiahhunley2459
    @jeremiahhunley2459 17 дней назад

    11:40 Sheik???

  • @allenvazquez4591
    @allenvazquez4591 17 дней назад

    Yes but NO WANT TO NEW COLOR MARIO BECUSE I WANT IT TO MR. M

  • @ojgimpson
    @ojgimpson 16 дней назад

    Rip wolf back throw shit is useless now

  • @darkshiftergg
    @darkshiftergg 17 дней назад

    Mmmm, tastey. Imo lucas new top 1

  • @QuimbyFletcher1996
    @QuimbyFletcher1996 17 дней назад +1

    They actually thicc-ined Zero Suit Samus 😏😏😏

  • @Mrclip-br3vz
    @Mrclip-br3vz 17 дней назад

    One for the algorythm

  • @Magikarp-4ever
    @Magikarp-4ever 17 дней назад

    Idk wtf this is

  • @PizzaTimeTheater690
    @PizzaTimeTheater690 17 дней назад +1

    Jokes aside P+ needs to stop over nerfing some chracters which makes the game more boring.

  • @rondoudoushiney3868
    @rondoudoushiney3868 17 дней назад +5

    This update is really bad in my opinion. Like who the fuck thought that nerfing everyone was a good idea ? Buffing everyone would a way better options.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 17 дней назад +3

      And give everyone a dthrow kill confirm just like Mario? No thanks, that sounds boring.

  • @BasedStory
    @BasedStory 17 дней назад +8

    This will get hate but this update, character buffing/nerfing wise, was atrocious. Didnt buff characters that need it and nerfed characters too much.

    • @mattwsd
      @mattwsd 13 дней назад

      Fr like they nerfed move that weren't that useful like dk's down b on ground, or knux's vertical recovery. I hope on project plus 3.03 they buff some character that really need it