Trump's Absolute Immunity Claims are Going to SCOTUS with Harry Litman
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- On April 25, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear former President Donald Trump’s claims that he has absolute presidential immunity and cannot be prosecuted for actions he took while in office. Former federal prosecutor and host of the Talking Feds Podcast Harry Litman joins to discuss the merit of Trump’s claims, what you should look out for during oral argument and whether the justice system can handle Trump.
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I hope they do the right thing for America.Donald trump is not above the law and he sure no victim
Well, I think he should be put jail.I don't care what it triggers.He needs to be shown and the United States needs to be shown.No President can get away with crap.And crime so no one is above the law.They've got to show that so per person.May be the thing overnight and jail say thirty days would be good
Hey El stoop Ed he isn't asking g to be above the law El stoop ed he is saying g a y president should have immunity for official acts and there needs to be
A POTUS or former POTUS is also not beneath the law. Elias and his fellows have weaponized law. They have worked hand in hand with government officials who are violating constitutional rights under color of office. Elias is scum. He is doing all he can to destroy our constitutional democracy.
Presidents should NOT be allowed to break federal law in or out of office!
Only MAGA should be allowed to use all-caps for no reason at all.
If they're out of office, they're not the president.
Those laws of the 1800's haven't fit the times or circumstances. Its been said "One rule should not be applied to all situations or circumstances" Its different if i stole a loaf of bread because I am hungry, as oppose to stealing a loaf of bread because i have a habit of stealing and a history of stealing.
@@user-do2eh2il6mstealing is stealing. Unambiguous.
Nixon wasn't allowed to, that's a precedent. Mind you, he was a Republican, so he said "I am not a crook." even though he was eventually proved to be a crook.
It is absolutely disgusting that such an idiotic argument can make it to the courts.
It needs to review by the SC to determine if it applies or not and if so, what are the limits? For example, free speech….but you can’t yell fire in a theatre, if there is none.
It is idiotic. The very basis of an impeachment of a president, for high crimes and misdemeanors, proves that there is no immunity for a criminal act done exclusively for the personal or political interest of the incumbent. The Constitution also goes on to say that the incumbent is open to legal action on leaving the Office. The only presidential immunity that can exist would thus be in relation to an action taken for reasons of National Security, which would by definition involve authorized senior military and legal members of the administration... and the SCOTUS Justices know it.
Supreme Court in Trump’s pocket.
Problem is Trump has a lot of powerful people in the right places that support his Autocratic agenda. When he said "Drain the swamp" he knew who the swamp rats were, and they were on his side.
True 💯 % 💙♥️🤍🇺🇲🗽
Does the Supreme Court not understand that if a President is above the law that they are irrelavent?
Worse, they become targets.
Oh… they know, they’re just trying to keep the rubes from knowing it as the truth!
It applies to the Old story." You knew I was a snake before you took me in". Now the court system is tying itself in knots putting one criminal in jail.
Agree.
Great point.
And that's just one of the basic facts that this court is entirely missing.
Trump isn't arguing he's innocent. He's arguing he has the right to be a criminal.
Exactly!
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Exactly
That's his dream...to be able to crime with impunity. If he gets immunity and wins again, he will loot the Treasury directly.
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Make ACCOUNTABILITY GREAT Again
Donald Trump said the" Laws in the country were stupid". They are stupid to him because he uses fear, deception along with lies to thwart the justice system.
love it
Make Attorneys Get Attorneys!
Trump, single handedly driving the legal field's profit margins.
That's the real MAGA
Not the Trump cult
What a complete con he is
How about: Make Assholes Get Attorneys.
There is no way the Supreme Court should have taken this case.
The Supreme Moronic Court of Injustice is the real name it is all a Joke. Ancient Humans that have no ability to think, making decisions that affect all the Citizens its all stupidity
They are Trumps best buddies. Tainted. All women must vote blue.
They absolutely 💯 % should. We aren't talking about just a criminal case here. We are talking about a fundamental separation of powers issue here. When there are questions like this, the SCOTUS according to the Constitution is the final word. So what is your problem? Don't you support the Constitution?
Agree!!!
The district court of appeals already discussed and ruled. There was nothing more the courts to decide. The only effect that SCOTUS will have is to delay the start of the January 6 trial
I wish I could feel optimistic about the verdict. I don’t trust SCOTUS.
Scotus has a 60% disapproval rating. I think that's 20 points too low.
No sane person could possibly trust this court. After all, how many of them outright lied in the Senate about Dobbs.
I don't either.
I don't trust the Supreme Court judges.
We could appoint 8 new judges or fire the ones who are bribed.
If trump has absolute immunity so does Biden
No way … there should be no immunity….
Yup! Trump is such a moron does he think president Biden would not use his authority if “total immunity “ is granted to let this criminal retake the white house ? I don’t think so!
MAGA Minds rely on Biden, not being as Nutzo as Bizarro-Trump.
What's good for goose is good for the gander.
I just can't see Biden calling Seal Team Six somehow. Unfortunately.
I have zero confidence in the SCOTUS. None.
Dumpster payed millions to plant them in there ,they are so corrupt 😞
The majority of the court, hopefully.
Oh, I have confidence. They'll do the wrong thing.
This guy is reaching for straws anywhere. He can because he knows that he's guilty of trying to overthrow this government. He has to be held accountable for the sake of this nation.
Yes, he is reaching for straws and is grabbing a lot of floatable ones. Sadly, he may floats his way to the presidency and may God have mercy on us all😢
@@44slackHe may, but that doesn't mean he will. With any luck, the American people will remember why they rejected this man in 2020 and will do so again in 2024, especially when he's a convicted felon.
He was not held accountable by the Congress. He was not held accountable by the Supreme Court who have stayed the DC trial and will give Trump what he wants.
@@thundermothstudio5446, yes! Great comment! I'm thinking that he has thrown so much weight (legal/political pressure) on his own back that he is going to exhaust himself and his resources to the point of failure. You can't take on that much weight without your back eventually breaking. He isn't in the same condition that he was in 2016. And another thing. Back then he was running, essentially, to boost his brand. It wasn't that big of a deal to him. He was relaxed and enjoying the added global fame. Today, he is running out of sheer desperation and there is so much pressure, attacks from all fronts, that he is getting sloppy, incoherent, dysfunctional, and a complete mess.
What it boils down to is this one man has control over the Courts and DOJ -- the Country.
Looks Hitleri-sh to me.
We elect a president, not a temporary monarch; his job is to "see to it that the law is followed." No, he cannot ever br supreme or above the law.
They do require limited immunity, not unlimited as the megalomaniac wants.
With the SCOTUS they only have their own best interest at stake I.E. all the money they get for favoring the persons with the most money to bribe them to get what they want for their own being. SCOTUS is just a criminal entity anyway.
What makes you think it would be temporary? And why wouldn't the Monarch's children become Monarchs in succession?
Trump is wanting to make himself an emperor, better yet a god emperor. Kingship is inherited, napoleon crowned himself emperor and that’s what trump wants. Being a dictator is so monochrome, see Kim - very boring. Emperors are like nouveau riche, everything is glittery and gold to the point you have to wear sunglasses, draperies are fringed tasselled and swagged, every square inch is crowded with stuff. No taste at all. Check out the photo of Melania with newborn Barron in her arms!!!!!!
There are no temporary monarchs that I recall anyway. They are monarchs for as long as they live, and then they make sure they have one or more sons to step in and continue the line.
It's over if Supreme Court favors Trump
Supreme Court will do right thing and not allow abuse of power.
@@mariasperdini2997I think so, but they will try and delay their decision as long as possible, in the hope the trials that are affected by the decision are delayed until after the election
They won't give him immunity but they are purposely delaying Trump's DC trial.
The Supreme Court is over if they favor Trump.
Supreme court knows what are lies and what are truths. Demoncrats are a shit load of liars!!!
Bring fair and moral justice back to America. Basically, Trump wants to be able
to commit crimes with no consequences. Will his buddies in SCOTUS allow that ?
He HAS committed multiple crimes, he just wants to continue getting away with them.
They are doing their best. Slow walking the immunity case may give Trump immunity even if they rule against him.
Probably
Donnie the Commie wants to marry Putin or Kim he in is love with them and wants to be a little bitty dictator with his syphilis infected brain
Yes.
I agree with the jail already for this evil devil 👿
As a Brit I am currently fixated with the vital battle to keep Trump out of office. Please continue to do everything you possibly can to report the truth and save us from the monster that is Trump.
We are discussing presidential responsibility like we’ve never had a president before.
Never had a President who did so much outside the scope of Presidential duties while doing so little of the actual job, examining tRUMP's record is like looking at a totally different job.
You certainly never had one like trump!
You’d think citizens elevated to high government positions should be held to higher standards than everyone else, not no standards at all.
Why not? Since the highest court in the land has crooked people judging. It just trickles down. & y’all’s citizen ex 45 has been breaking laws ALL his life. & he doesn’t plan on stopping now.
Just saw a video where some lady was saying that ex45 hadn’t paid taxes during so many years. She asked how could he get away with that? His remark was: “Because I’m smart!” What a lowlife. Laws are for everyone else to follow but not for him. If his minions saw that video they would say, “You go prez!”
I am shocked this discussion isn't simply presuming the conservative members of SCOTUS aren't actively and obviously seeking to support Trump anyway they can. The courts and many reporters behave like lowly peasants around a king when dealing with Trump. The diffidence is shocking.
has been that way since Bush Vs Gore - which was such a travesty
You're so right. It's like these two are ignoring all their previous rulings. Or they're just incredibly naive. The Supreme Court justices are going to do exactly what their right wing billionaire owners INSTRUCT them to do. They're the only reason those clowns got on the bench in the first place. They weren't appointed to even think for themselves about anything. Because of the nature of their appointment they don't even care how obvious their corruption becomes to everyone!! Whose stupid idea was it for life time appointments? That just breeds corruption!!
You're absolutely right.
Any time he wants to, His Repugnancy can exercise his Constitutional Privilege to immediately stop each of the trials he's facing with five simple words...
'Your Honor, I plead guilty'
He is convinced he is innocent .he does. .not know the difference from truth or líes
He loves to líes.is much easier for him.
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Thank you Mark for supporting Democracy
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I was a CO at a DOC in California. To work there I had to go through extensive physical and psychological testing. It was important to know that I could not be corrupted and be able to make fast and appropriate decisions. We need a set of standards that a presidential candidate must meet before he or she can even be on the ballot.
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I'm predicting The Supreme Court have taken this delay to give them time to manipulate the wording and come up with a word salad in Trump's favor on his immunity case when they make their decision. Same as they did for the disqualification case.
Pretty reasonable assumption.
Yep, I agree 😮 court of grifters paid to favor trump
JACKPOT!!!! Two of my favorite democracy defending legal geniuses in one podcast - this is awesome!!
The reason we are facing this appeal is because Trump represents an awful character that nobody anticipated would ever rise to the high office of POTUS. However, SCOTUS has to consider this appalling individual's belief that he is above the law and rule on it. So even the pro-Trump jutices will have to hold their noses and not support the appeal.
@peacefulpleb
They did not have to do anything. They chose to do Trumps bidding based on what they're owners told them to do. And guess what,we are not the owners.
Puddyhead Putin and other foreign and domestic terrorists did! VOTE BLUE
Biden needs to comment on this, saying something like “We are about to find out whether or not I can get away with asking Seal Team 6 to take out any Supreme Court Justices I disagree with”.
Biden has too much respect to act like Trump. Trump has probably already threatened them if they don't rule in his favor.
Biden
"My attorney is here to ask SCOTUS if the seal team 6 scenario applies to presidents"..."asking for 6 very nervous Supreme Court Justices"😅😅😅
Great ones guys ....
It's a page full of hatred. Y'all can't see because of the sticks in your own eyes. Such hateful comments. Hate comes from ignorance.
@@marycull3607It’s a page full of upholding the law, Mary. He’s hated for his abuse of the law.. You might want to take your own comment and apply it to yourself: Who are you to say what someone should do.
Harry Litman is desperately needed with this Supreme Court. He's brilliant, thorough, unique. I see the immunity case differently from the way I thought of it before. Mark Elias0l
Elias is excellent, as always.
It's Marc Elias
@@susangreene6449 thank you.
It's so frustrating that it's gone to the wire. All of it should have taken place in 2021/2022.
You can thank the spineless Attorney General Merrick Garland for this timeline problem. This case should taken place in 2021 or early 2022.
But if the case had taken place as you say in 2021/22, that would have been a normal thing to have happen.
This situation isn’t normal. & there are players who are playing dirty. But the Ill gotten isn’t enjoyed for long.
Litman's enthusiasm and excitement at being on the program is evident, and contagious!
hes a diamond
He talks in circles and his logic is that of a repub-dem inner party member.
harry has a very informative podcast
I have the utmost respect for you Marc please don’t stop fighting for us, thank you!
I love when harry is all smiles. He has a nice smile especially when he has good info on trumps crimes. I watch all of harrys appearances. Hes intellectual and honest. Thanks mark and harry for all yas do for democracy and lawfulness
Two outstanding people having a informative discussion! Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for all you do to preserve this messy and still wonderful democracy.
🥳🥳🥳🥳 May Justice prevail 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
It hasn’t so far. 6 are Christian nationalists, so, they will protect by delaying.
@@courtneybrubaker9738 I know... It's gone be up to us. The nefarious justices we have is an absolute debacle.
But it did not when they let him go on the 14th sec 3.This man is not good enough to dig his own grave.
@@T.Z.M4N Agreed
@@T.Z.M4N Agreed
People need to deal with reality, UNLESS the Supreme Court actually deals with it, any and every future President could claim the exact same thing, it has to happen.
They have not so far dealt with reality and show no signs of being willing to. SCOTUS needs to be expanded by adding at least 4 Justices.
Go back to russia
SCOTUS needs to close to door on this completely so Trump can't keep trying to use it, but they could have done so MUCH faster. They are purposely trying to stall FOR Trump. SCOTUS is illegitimate and Christo-fascist.
The SC will delay after the hearing again, Then rule in Trump's favor with a word salad.
@@user-pw7bs8zg3wif they declare trumpsucker has it , guess what current President also has it. So Biden can use the SCOTUS decision to declare trumpsucker a terrorist 🤔, jail him for insurrection. 😅😅😅 This is going to be very interesting 😮
What a great interview between 2 brilliant legal minds. Thanks Marc!
Marc, you and your amazing team are exactly what the American people need. The astute guests you have and the insights and analysis both they and you provide are invaluable! Thank you so much!!!💙💙💙
Harry is awesome! Talking Feds is one of my favorite podcasts.
For so many years Donald Trump has wreaked havoc in the business world. All the Prosecutors did nothing or very little, Now the criminal has come to rob us of our rights.
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@@susangreene6449 , spelling corrected.
As you know, Marbury v. Madison made the Supreme Court the ultimate authority in the land. This case gives them the right to declare legislation from Congress and executive and administrative actions unconstitutional. We can't overturn Marbury because the Supreme Court will never overturn themselves, so it would have to be done by constitutional amendment.
One problem is that the Constitution is so short and often vague---and it doesn't address hundreds of modern issues---that they can just make shit up. Take gun control. The Constitution gives the "militia" (citizen army) the right to bear arms. Guess what---ever since we have had our government with a standing army there has been no militia. So the Supreme Court decided that any asshole with a gun is a "militia"? Our Founding Fathers only added this so we could carry muskets into battle against the British. Now they're deciding what constitutes an assault weapon. This is especially hypocritical for the "constitutionalists" who lean heavily on the intent of the Founding Fathers when they wrote the Constitution. What if it doesn't cover a topic at all? Then they make it up.
In Marbury, the Supreme Court ruled that the Supreme Court was the final arbiter. This is circular and is a conflict of interest. One could see this as the Court successfully conducting something akin to a coup d'état (they put themselves in charge). They took voting power away from citizens by appointing themselves Lord High Master. I don't know about you, but that sounds unconstitutional.
I also think we need more than just case law---and only a single case at that---to establish who has the final word on everything. If Congress were to pass a law that does away with Marbury, would the Court, then, strike it down thereby keeping itself in power?? This is a runaway court!!
Well said!
That is great, however how long will that take?. Donald Trump likes those long winded, trials. He is a master at "the long View" Any way the supreme court are human beings,who mess up and make mistakes, a human being always have to watched and held accountable. This court cannot be punished for dismissing the will of the majority. WHAT!!!!!?????
yes of course - that whole 14th amendment disqualification - they ruled that they would not be the determiner of whether or not someone was ineligible for office. -they wanted it to go to the congress. Meanwhile the congress - wrote the 14th amendment. There is not a rational, cogent line of thinking when it comes to these justices and their decisions. Sort of like those justices that were asked about Roe - vs Wade and their opinion on that - and they all said - it was decided law - obviously nothing they say is really true.
Interesting points. It does make me wonder if a rogue SCOTUS, such as this one, is actually unstoppable by anyone. Frightening!
Great points Paul, and damned if I know the solution. What if we had an absolute blue tsunami this November, would that give the President and Congress and Senate, together, the right to overide SCOTUS and cancel "Marbury" ? It may be time to establish that once and for all. The PEOPLE elect all three of those bodies, they should have the SUPREME power. The Supreme court was always meant to be an "arbiter", not a "creator" of laws. What is in the best interests for America now, and damn whatever you guess the Founding Fathers meant, they are long gone.
Thank you, Marc, for this discussion with Harry Litman. I admire his expertise and objectivity. Thank you both for your thoughts & insights. This was excellent!
Gritting my teeth with every shopping trip to the SCOTUS store.
If Trump gets absolute immunity, then nothing stops another president having Trump ended?
If I were advising Biden I would tell him to send Seal team 6 after Trump until he leaves the country then revoke his passport
There wont BE another president.
Actually if he wins he will never leave office & no more traditional voting for we the people choice who we want as our president
Democracy will be over
@@AM-fs1je Democracy is not the default position of human societies.
Thankyou! The time spent listening to you and Harry was well worth it.
Thanks Mark. That was a fascinating conversation between two of my favorite legal experts.
"I'm Just Crazy About Harry"...
I love harry litman! Great energy, authentic smile, smart and sometimes funny. I enjoy listening to him. He is a great guest
Follow Harry Littman on his own channel Talking Feds diligently. Law without hype! 😊
From the Netherlands ; great information in this show ... thanks
What steams my clams about this is scotus can literally take as long as they'd like to rule on it.
Thx Marc and Harry 🌿
Fantastic show and guest! Thank you so much!
Watching from afar.The Supreme Court made an appalling decision on putting a stay on the issue of immunity which had thr effect of delaying the accountability and trials of the wannabe dictator.The appeals court heard oral arguments and presented their decision that no one is above the law.Anyone of sound mind and common sense knows it was a no brainer and the correct decision going forward.
I appreciate how Marc poses a question and let's the guest answer...with good follow up questions.
This was an absolutely brilliant discussion regarding this issue. Thank you Mark and Harry for your knowledgeable insight.
If the scotus wasn’t appalled & outraged in regards to J6, so that they would uphold convictions of those responsible, what hope is there that they would hold this criminal accountable for anything else. It will be on the conscience of anyone who lets him get away with his crimes. Whether a court or his base.
Get It Right SCOTUS!!
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Thank you Mark for all you do
I always enjoy what Harry has to say.
And Glenn Kirchner too.
he knows the ropes and does not fall for Republican antics.
Thank you Marc and Harry, 2 of my favorite guys I don't have much time to follow, alas. I'm impressed with your consistency in fighting for our rights and for justice. Always a pleasure. 👍 👍
Thanks, Mark! You and Harry are the best!
Thank you for the work u do to save our democracy. Always insightful 😊
❤Thanks for having Harry on Marc. Always enjoy him. Happy Day Guys. )
A President should only be protected from prosecution if the relevant "criminal" action/s was/were PREVIOUSLY endorsed as "special NATIONAL SECURITY circumstances" by both the HOR and the Senate. Any criminal action not so endorsed must be subject to the full force of the law!
I would argue that Trump being in court for a criminal trial like Georgia would be a necessary part of an election since during the campaign voters need to acquire all information about a candidate's capability to serve and the case would be doing that. Not having the case would take away a fundamental right of voters.
Brilliant discussion, thank you gentlemen.
You guys speak plain and offer the truth.
The way I know law is that no one is above the law. The allowance is in pardon by another President or else the crime committed is prosecuted after one term in office comes to an rnd.
The US AG will have the authority to dismiss all federal charges. It is not clear whether Trump would have the authority to pardon himself, as this has never been tried in American history.
You know what makes me sick?
Trump's pardon list. Murderers and arsonists, fraudsters, racketeers, people who lied for Trump. WTF?
www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021
Thanks gentlemen
Great interview with Harry! I always enjoy learning from your podcasts.
Completely ridiculous
This is an amazing project and i think more folks should be signed on to this
Cant believe this rediculous question is even being addressed by scotus. 😮
This is making a mockery of the SC
They aren’t going to rule that he is above the law, they’re just going to delay the processes some more: by (like) sending the whole process back to the lower courts while reducing the scope of the argument.
Love Harry Littman!
So cool to see two of my favs in the same video. Thank you.
Are we going to rely on SCOTUS respect for precedent? What grounds do we have that this would be the case.?
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Harry... ❤️❤️❤️ Love mark on Brian Tyler Cohen videos as well.
Thank you Marc for your devotion, dedication and being an all round good man. 🇦🇺
Thank you Mark and Harry. That was insightful and valuable in understanding just how perilous the SC stuff is. I hope they aren’t as corrupt as they seem
The Corrupt Court will delay or gut the case by limiting what can be prosecuted.
That’s IF the scotus IS corrupt
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Fantastic episode.
Thank you both very much
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Great discussion. Thank you.
That was great ~ thank you Marc and Harry for your sage commentary 💙💙💙
Nothing has changed in my opinion, for what it’s’ worth, no one is above the law. Not even the President of the United States. Great program today.
Everyone should be financially supporting Mark Elias!
Thank you, guys. You do a fantastic job 👍😊
Don't change the Constitution!!!
Just like a the abortion law of 1800,s applied to woman. Those laws are applied to rich white men or rich white woman.Those old laws have not been changed to fit the times and circumstances.
Mark, your work gives me hope. The Supreme Court is no longer the end of the argument. Whatever they say, they are complicit tn the holding up of Trump's trial. A true American disgrace.
Thankyou both for such clear- headed insightful analysis! We Americans are fortunate to have you up front and center in the media!
Campaigning for an office is a choice. The courts should not care about that choice. Being held accountable for crimes is not a choice. If running for an office means you can't be tried for crimes, every criminal in the country will decide to mount a campaign for everything from president to dog catcher.
Thanks Marc and Harry for all you do for saving our democracy. Your clarification of the law to how it should be done helps open up my eyes.
Thanks Guest Harry Litman and Marc Elias for Defending Democracy and The Constitution of The United States of America 🗽 🇺🇲 🌠 💙 ⭐ ✨
Love ya, Mark!!
Supreme court playing to Trump tune. delay delay delay
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Well, I am very grateful for each of you Marc and Harry Litman.Each of you have been very helpful and informative.
Each providing detailed presentations and discussions that help me understand the depth and breadth of the truth..., from a perspective that is foundational and instructive of and to a Democratic Society.
I am grateful and appreciate your work. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You
There should be an urgency to wrap up before the election, not grant Trump a window for campaigning... because of the possibility of a self pardon or termination of the efforts of the justice department if he wins the election.
Very informative discussion , thank you very much 👌👌💙💙🌟🌟💙💙
democracy yes 👍👍⬜️
A great legal feast Mark Elias and Harry Litman. I thoroughly enjoyed your detailed presentation.