Sundance Transport 1980 Kenworth W900A CAT 3408 V8 Cold Start
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Chris Kikelhan gives a closer look at his 1980 Kenworth W900A / Caterpillar 3408 and does a cold start at the 2015 Mid America Trucking Show.
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That KW represents the end of the golden age of trucking
maybe, until the next golden age of trucking
And peterbilt
Once upon a time before the DEF.....
@@mewkatlolTHERE WILL NEVER BE A GOLDEN AGE AGAIN 😶
@@2FLY-gs1qt ppl are looking for these old trucks to run nowadays
One thing about the 3408s you get absolute reliability as long as you treat them right. I've owned one in a KW cabover here in Australia for over 20 years and the only time it let me down it grenaded a turbo once. It's hauling A trains @ 175,000 lb, sometimes up to 265,000 lb. It's still working hard to this day.
The more weight you put on, the more the fuel mileage is the same as a late model engine.
I think his engine could do with an in-frame though, it took a long time to start. Mine smokes at cold but nothing like that. When it's hot it doesn't blow much smoke at all.
They are something of a legend here in Oz, KW only made about 30 here. I think KW and Pete made a lot more in US.
Thanks for chiming in mate. Sounds llike you have a hell of a work horse!
man y'all boys are badass down there!!
I've been watching those videos!!!
y'all ain't about nothing but RAW BLOODY ASS POWER!!!
I LOVE IT!!!
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pity this bloke doesn't just drive this banger like you do Chris......
very strong cat big block.....17972ccm.....in us gcm just 36300kg.....australia is a heavy weight champion in the world!the Mad Hungarian tipper lorry drivers inside the mine .... my colleague last week 62500kg on gravelmine private weigh bridge....12 tyre,5 axles semi,one drive axles scania r420......
I came here just to watch this in remembrance of my grandpa. He passed last week. He LOVED this engine
A Kenworth W900 with a 3408 Cat? My grandpa would be drooling. Absolutely gorgeous truck.
my dad had one of them V8 cats with a 5×4 transmission. that's what I learned how to drive trucks. it was in a peterbilt. then a KT 600 Cummins with same drivetrain. way to go
Old school cat sounds are to die for
Old school cats are ‐about‐ the only ones we can hear nowadays
One thing that made the distinct sound in the 3408s was they had a different angle on the V that being said when you worked on one the rod journals on the crank looked like they were sheared which gave that engine a very distinct sound
I would like to take a moment to thank the EPA and all the hippies in Commiefornia for completely ruining fun things like this.
Billy Bob : When one of your those that you Dearly Love, comes down with IRREVERSIBLE LUNG DISEASE, after longterm exposure to the sickening fumes and smoke. ( C.O.P.D. ) and they wind up in a nursing home and are attached to an oxygen machine via an surgical openening in their throat where an oxygen delivering hose is inserted down into the lung, THEN you will PROFUSELY THANK those that serve in the environmental protection movement !! As much as I did not care for his policies "I NOW" offer my deepest RESPECTS, for the then ( Conservative Republican, in the 1970s ) President of the U.S.A. Richard Milhouse Nixon, ( May he and his Devoted Wife, Mrs. Reagan, Rest In Peace ) for his support of of the U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. I do not offer any disrespect to you sir, but as a nursing home patient ( attached to an oxygen machine, forever ) I urge all of you truck and car enthusiasts ( like myself ) to re-think your attitudes. Sign Me: Living in a nursing home FLAT on my back for the rest of my life attached to an oxygen concentrator !!! 😭😢😩 P.S. Beautiful antique trucks and autos appearing at special antique fairs, may BRIEFLY ( but no more )be given ( I am a B series Mack lover, since childhood ) a moment to show off those great sounding monster diesel engines. Like wise the great 427 Chevys and Hemi Chryslers, and Shelby 500 hundred Mustang Cobras.
WHO & What Trucker dies HEALTHY, dont know anyone dieing healthy, Trucking is way to much fun 2WORRY.
Maybe u shouldve left the cigarettes alone. EPA is a worthless government made up excuse of an organization.
Billy Bob you got that right
that's a real truck
My grand dad had a 3408 (650 hp) and my dad had a 1693 (600 hp) cat power pulled over weight loads for years.. both were 5 by 4 with 2 speed rears total unstoppable trucks indeed
Only thing they don't pass is a fuel pump
Never late with a 3408 😂
Never late V8... never fix straight 6... hard to miss either way
@@kevinrice4909 no it's straight six, you like dicks
I remember when that sound was as common as the boom-box music we hear now.
Jeeze the 3408 sounded good when she was pulling hard and rolling smoke.
Keep'em Rolling!
Idled like a washing machine full of bottles
one of the best sounds yull never forget hands down
I think the screamin detroit diesels sound better but they are fucking obnoxious lol
Had one in a 1978 Pete EXHD with a 6x5 over and it would get you in trouble if you let it real fast with the law. Fuel mileage was not the best out of one of those engines, 4-5 miles to the gallon, but it could get the job done.
Also had one in the same year truck that stayed in the Cathouse more than on the road and Cat dropped an experimental 3406 engine as a replacement by accident. That white cat engine would do 600kw on a dino.
That's a thing of beauty! A truck you can feel as you go down the road pure and simple power. Whata sound!!
This is the video you show your kid when they ask you what the word "pimpn" means 👀
that turbo whistle music to my ears :D
A guy here in New Zealand bought a new Mack Superliner with a 3408 opened up to 600hp in it. He used a Bolster and 3 axle Jinker set-up to cart 12m (40ft) Douglas Fir logs from Kaingaroa Forest to the Port of Napier. It went very well, thank you very much! A beautiful truck also.
Tu te Kohe ~ Was that Bob Stout (Uncle) from Taupo or someone else ???
Remember that being a Cat man it went VERY well for its time , Maroa Logging had Mini and Mo KW with 3408s as well nice set up with Allisons
I love the 3408, and 1693 Cat. The KTA600,525 and 475TT Cummins . I have run or owned all but the KTA 600. The good Ol days!
Steve Mo the KTA 600 was a beast and super reliable motor. I was lucky enough to drive one for a short while. Mechanical motors were great
I run a 1MM 600 Cat c15 block c16 head longer stroke high compression the 8ne Cat built to kick the KTE 600 and it will.
Tim Scott The 6 head monster. Love the Cats but later days a signature 600 would run over a 625 cat
I have too. The KTA 600 was a good engine, but others and I found out about the KTTA 600 and ran them as they were the king of the engines back in the late '70s and early '80s with 1200 hp. If you paid attention you could get 6 miles or a little more to the gallon out of them. You had to run either the 6x4 or 6x5 with them as the 15 speed lower gear bearings would not hold up to those engines.
@@randyrudder2451 Hay randy you are dreaminggggg..
Como a gente fala aqui no Brasil, Nave maravilhosa esse caminhão, o motor Caterpillar tem muita força, lindo de mais, realmente vocês sabem curtir o que é bom, amo os USA, um dia vou morar aí.
Fantastic I’m gonna make that cold start my new ring tone ... no jakes though ... sniff
That is one of the coolest trucks I have ever seen.
Sexier than any woman I've ever seen lol
Me too, and I've seen a few
Agreed
Anyone else have a huge smile on watching this!! Beautiful
No, its just a crap start…
I know I got wood.
lol
BigRig Videos : How many of these guys and gals develop CHRONIC OBSTRUCTIVE PULMONARY DISEASE ( C.O.P.D. for short, like wise for 🐕companion pets, if any ) after breathing in the smoke and fumes, of these big diesel powered rigs for a long extended period of time. There is NO cure. You live for the rest of your life in utter misery. You are CONSTANTLY short of breath, and in many cases like MYSELF, you wind up in a nursing home with staff bathing you, and putting diapers on you, as you are COMPLETELY INCAPACITATED ! You MUST TAKE MANY medications to assist your breathing, not to mention that in the more severe cases, you are attached to a breathing machine ..........oxygen concentrator, 24 hours a day 7 days a week, year round. Believe you me, this is no way to live your retirement years, after working so damn hard all of your life. BE forewarned ! 😩 P.S. Once you are diagnosed with C.O.P.D. it progressively gets WORSE! Not trying to scare you.....,I'm just "Shouting Out" a warning, of what has happened to ME !
How do you Like That ? it's unprovable that you can get cancer from driving a truck that emits black smoke from its exhaust. cigarette users are far more likely to get lung cancer. what's more worrying to me as a driver is blood clots from so Mich sitting with your knees bent and prostrate cancer from again, sitting for long periods of time and holding back from using the restroom.
How do you Like That ? As a truck driver, you don't breathe the exhaust. It's directed up and away from you.Not likely to be a cause of COPD.
fluffykittynoodles I know what you're talking about
That's the kind of truck that made me want to be a truck driver when I was a boy back in the 70s
Greg P. I had the same experience growing up in the late 90s in Colombia
Greg P. that is a completely true statement for me as well. Pure cool in every aspect.
Yeah a real truck not a show pony ! Only thing I would change would be the bumper. Would much rather it have the classic Gull Wing on it but other than that she is a beauty.
What happened in the 80’s? Did you get sex change operation to be a girl? That’s weird
@@shortthrow50 I knew I wanted to drive a truck when I was a kid and when I became a adult I did. Im still a trucker 30 years later.
Used to drive one of those KW's back in the late 70's but with a 5 & 4 speed. Called it the road grader! No other truck could touch a 3408 esp. when pulling hills out west. We had 2 new COE Pete's fitted with V12-71's at the factory but I'd take the 3408 ANY day!
MTH DCS you never drive a turbo 12v then with the governor set at 2400..... would make a cat look like it's standing still
LOL, guess he never run up against a kta 600! No comparison!
A 3406 that has been run threw the doctors office will run with the “never late V8”.
That's a pc motor. The di starts easy and has more power.
Love them old v8 Cats. Had A 3208 in A Topkick beer delivery strait truck. The truck had A automatic in it, When it was empty I would mash down on the pedal And it would light them up And do long burn outs down the warehouse. Can't imagin how strong that 3408 it. Cat motors Are the best.
LOVE the old 3408's, we had one new in a logging truck in 1980.... nothing outpulled it, we pulled up to 175,000 lb on 5 axles on a restricted route permit, it burnt fuel but you were grinning the whole time, had a couple of 8V92's too... they burned just as much fuel and couldn't pull themselves off a stump, don't think I ever chained up running the 3408, just keep backing out of the throttle when it started to wipe it's feet, could almost count the pistons firing and it just kept on going
Yeah I'd take CAT over Derot any day.
A friend had one they hauled potatoes the 2 guys that ran with him 1 had a 425 Cat the other 400 Cummins Eric would gross 20 to 30,000 heavier and just walk away on hills liked it's fuel but had plenty of power to show for it
Man those 8v92s were some kick butt engines
8V92's were a decent Detroit, at least less oil leakage than the 71 series engines, though in my truck technician days (1978-1983), NOTHING out pulled the Cat 3406's or 08's with the same hp ratings, they always had more torque, especially against the 2stroke Detroits. Only time I ever saw a Detroit come close was an 8V92 who's owner had installed 10mm injectors.
I love the diesels that clatter like that. It's a sound I associate with my love of them.
That's a motor I'd PAY to listen to all day.
all day? pay?
jff id rather much drive instead of listening😅
Drove a Super Liner Freightliner back in the 90's with the 3408 dumping into a can then straight pipes. It would roar! Great sound at idle too, echoing in that can. How to spot a superliner: Cab widened, vertical stack on head lights for radiator clearance, narrow foot wells, ah never mind you'll never see one.
When I worked for Caterpillar in Portland Oregon, these original trucks were called Superliners, later changed to Power liners I think for legal reasons. The development work was done at the Cat dyno facility. Interestingly although they look like a regular freighliner none of the body panels are the same! So don't wreck one.
Holy geeze we got half the TTR crew here lol.
music to my ears. I could listen to that 3408 all day
gotta love the way and CAT A-motor starts up really nice
First Cat I drove was in the 80's a KW w/380 first start I thought this things is worn out junk, but when she warmed that thing would outpull any 400 cummins any day. Loved the way on a hill it would seem to fall on it's face, but hold on here came that breath and whisper that made it come alive and start pulling, back then passed a lot on that grade in Needles.
What a beauty that truck is and the sound of that 3408 MERCY!
That truck sounds amazing with that motor in it.
I LOVE THE TRUCK.. but, you have a fuel timing problem. it was common on the old 988F wheel loaders ( they had the 3408 engine) it should NOT smoke that bad on a cold start. notice how it goes away after it warms up? thats the tell tale sign... nice rig... its worth fixing right! ever check you engine oil for fuel dilution? ( oil sample )
Defintly sucking air at start I ran lots of asphalt grinders and they started as soon as you hit the go button love em 👍
She should have lit off as soon as you touch the key. Definitely fuel timing problem.
He’s too worried about everybody looking at it and telling them they got wood to worry about the mechanics of the engine or smoking the starter to get it to hit or slobbering white smoke when it fires 😂
Yep, old mechanical 08s usally start at a sniff of a key, needs some fuel system love. And the white smoke is a good telltale things arent right
Beautiful truck! So clean and such a luxurious cab! I have a soft spot for big CAT engines. Sounds great and seems to accelerate pretty well!
I remember when those things were still on the road.... Cali would have a heart attack today.... whoever asked, he didnt say what HP it had. Its a 3408, prob turned up. 600 HP maybe somewhere around there. $ mpg, 18 speed... you need to be hauling entertainment equipment like he is, not low rate heavy freight or you'd go broke. Cool vid... Chris.. you need to get a quieter exhaust system.... ha ha! Put a Borla system on your carmaybe?? lol
some Ataks with no cats
LOL good catch Tommy. For some reason the SRT8 was louder in this video (more than a year ago) than the videos now.
no he needs a louder one!!!. .. and if DOT don't like it then they can kiss his ass!!!
#double stacks built America! !!
BigRig Videos I've noticed the SRT8's seem to "settle" a bit and the exhaust quiets down a bit
BigRig Videos It sounds like a Mopar... Direct-connection.... but I always thought you were running Magnaflows for some reason. I know your ride is in Hot Rod mode, no doubt... gotta be to keep up with these straps, right? ;p
I got that same truck and motor sitting in my machine it’s just a different color of course it’s not the same exact truck... be weird if it was. I love the motor and the truck, it’s great to drive, motor sounds like a dozer it’s a badass rig and I love driving mine every once a while.
Boy that one don't like the cold. I can smell the diesel form here, always loved the smell of diesel
cant beat the old shit take care of em and they run forever and they never owe you a thing and you turn the screws and they run like a son of a bitch!
Love the Clatterpuller sound ! thanks for the memories !
Where's the pre-heaters?
yeah it's funny you wouldn't think I'm a nice warm day like that but the funny part is I know a guy's got to 72 Pete with a 1693 V8...and it doesn't matter if it's a warm summer day at 85 degrees outside or a winter day at 5 below zero
that cranky Kitty is not happy unless you hit it with the preheater doesn't matter what the temperature but if you preheat it she will just light right off
I like how the gauges are setup on the dash. I prefer the Old School dials over digital readouts. I trained on an old 1969 Pete in driving school. We had a KW too but it was just for the oval track as it was a COE and we just ran conventional on the roads.
Man I miss the open road I enjoyed driving Petes and Kenworths and other rigs ...........
your not missing much now brother, the good ol'days are dead and gone.
This video never gets old. ☺️
Love the V8 sound....beautiful truck...
My idea of what a truck should look like and sound like!
Hi guys I drove a kW 144here in Aussie with a3408 20speed spicer 4 speed spicer jokey 68000 dual speed eat ons 450 at the wheels rated at 240 tons we often pulled 8 lines behind her with fully rigged d11ns fuel 2liters a Kay somewhere about a gallon per 2 mile thanks Ray
one word!!! FANTASTIC!!! Truck!! fuck mpg let's hammerdown!!
Great looking rig. Love the round twin headlights.
We'll this is one old timer that knows that old sound. O yes, remember those old light up rocker switches. With that truck, you get the best of both worlds D8 and a truck!
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I used to run a boat with twin 3408's and he isng kidding you can hear one from a mile away and know what it is if its quiet out.They were also a bear to start up after winter storage but we used to use wd-40 to get em going right off the 2nd turn of the key.............I really miss that boat,it caught a lot of fish and smoked out a lot of mosquitoes lol
Such a nice clean rig🤠 awesome sound😎
what a beautifull oldschool machine. love the sound :)
Beautiful truck, I just couldn’t live with those new style front bumpers though!!
Ol 2stroker (Wayno) is selling his 3408 CAT Peterbuilt
3408 CAT...Mega amounts of TORQUE for sure...back in the day.
We had a family truck repair business back in 1986 my older brother rebuilt one of these for a local owner op driver it was also in an ol kenworth conventional these had quite a different sound than a 3406.
I love them ol cats
That"s some fine iron ,love that cat
Awesome!! Homesick for the good ol’ days!!
I am a retired Heavy Equipment hauler..We used to have grinders Cat 365 that grind the road surface with these 3408E Cats in them..😢They are a very RESPECTFUL engine if you look after them..But they don't like to start in the winter,,So what we did is have quick couples to hookup to a service truck with a Webaso Box on it for heat,,We have 3 of them Cats..All probably have 20,000 hours on them..each,,
I watched this one several times. This truck is bad ass.
Best truck I've ever seen. Nothing extra, everything is neat, elegant and beautiful. I can not see enough. It is perfect! Super!
That’s lovely 😊 engine sound and it’s so amazingly clean !! 👍🏻 👌🏻
I LOVED BACK IN THE DAY,YOU COULD TELL WHAT TRANSMISSION YOUR COMPETITION HAD WHILE PULLING A HILL,WATCHING HIS PUFF PUFF...IN YOUR MIRROR...
Yeah i popped a chubby my damn self! Diesel pump'n fuh sho. I love my 1996 3406e but those V8 Cats are awesome!
All that smoke 😆 makes me think of that chick that gets all bent out of shape...HOW DEAR YOU . 😆 😆
Lawd jesus if that isn't the prettiest looking KW I've seen in a while. I mean everything about that truck is a perfect fit as well as one of the best classics out there. And couldnt have topped it off any better with putting that 3408 under the hood of it. Just perfect!!!
Yessir! It's done just right, not too much nor too little and everything is exactly where it oughta be.
I keep coming back to this for a watch...
I started trucking in 1977 in a 352 Pete with a 1693TA Cat and a 13 over with 4.11 gears and 11.22 tires..
It topped out in the low 80s but it would pull a house with ease.
Similar clatterpillar sound.
I loved that engine... was never quite satisfied with any engine after that... very satisfying to run.
I used to run out of paper mills in New England. Leaving Jersey at 2am with light loads nirth and heavy loads back.
On rainy nights she used to spin the tires going up the Palisades Hill to the GW... 45 miles per... 1800 rpm... suddenly the revs are fluctuating up... 27,000 pounds in the trailer and this thing was spinning the tires...
Yea... that was trucking fir me in the 70s.
By the way... Im a Pete guy all the way...
But those W900 A model KWs are the nicest looking trucks ever made.
Oh my god love them cat's, the old all have that sound, and the smell, well i have said it before and i'll say again, if it ant a CAT send the fuck'er back !!! just say'en !!! ''keep on trucking'' !!!!!!
What a beauty!! Love Kenworths
what was the temperature??? looked like that old Cat didn't want to start. it too a lil bit to start them in cold weather
Nice Ride . Not sure about the dozers but The 3408 Cat was used in a 988B Cat Wheel Loader . Pit in Memphis Has a 988B Cat w/ the same engine . That loader is about as old as i am or few years younger. & Loads , Ag lime, Limestone rock & Rip Rap still to this day . It's also where i 1st found out about the 3408 Cat . Loved to hear that Ole Loader Work those Stock Piles loading trucks .
D9R ran the 3408.
Caterpillar is The Best Diesel Engine in the World. Great Truck, Great Sound, Great Engine!!
That Cat sounds really like it should. Love a Cat engine. 🥰They like to get up and roll. 😎
Damn! That thing sounds incredible!
you know who else would get a woody the state of California with all that smoke they would see dollar signs lol
its not bad once u run thru the gears.....lol
Juan Garcia ca would see and hear that coming hundreds of miles away and throw up the do not enter sign. Fuck California!
The 3408 never seem as popular as the V8 Mack!I don't know why!I always thought they were both pretty good engines!Then the EPA step in!You know the rest!I'm out!
Vi muchas veces este video solo para escuchar el sonido de motor ese sonido me trae recuerdos. Cuando los buses blue bird le ponían esos motores yo maneje un 3208 turbo en el Salvador
I rescued my 3408 from an 044 madill grapple yarder, put into my 1977 kw law 924, protruding rad , butterfly hood , pacar bush cab , 15od 46000 lbs rockwells big six suspension and 30 ton Columbia logging rig out , an example of an old kwhopper , still active logging with it …MR CAT …oh ya and he’s a Canadian kw
What a beauty! Cheers from Australia. (Always a Kenworth man first a mack man second and a peter 3rd.)
2;; turbo Caterpillar.
This or a Detroit is how a truck is supposed to sound.
Wow a V8 CAT without 10 exhaust leaks & the exhaust manifolds not falling off with there little 3/8 studs all broke off & every exhaust joint not leaking , I replacing
Off topic, the reason I deleted my truck, longevity, performance, engine health, and good ol’ smell of Diesel engine.
call me crazy but was never really a fan of w9's, but that is a beautiful truck. Alawys been obsessed with the t800. Now I drive a t880, which is a big piece of junk!!
There’s so many things I adore about this rig, but the Kat v8 is just stunning!! Beautiful truck!
18 liters of pure freedom!
gave me chills hear that ol Claterpillar fire up classic iron for sure n the ol sayin Never late 3408! Clean ol KW!
I bet it smells like America!!! That rig makes me feel proud to be a red blooded American. MAGA KAG 2020
black smoke equal raw fuel turn the pump down a bit and the air up...
Actually moat diesel rig dump black smoke.. Apparently you never heard the term rolling coal lmao and I'm pretty sure that truck doesn't have a dpf setup so yeah...
Some think "rollin coal" is cool...frankly the "coal" just is a sign of an out of adjustment system. Some visible exhaust is expected when gunning the engine repeatedly but leaving long trails of smoke is an engine begging for a tune up. It's an 18L engine so properly tuned it ought to toss the rig around. He kept saying it's a clanky clattering engine but the one I ran was smoooooth like a sewing machine.(or my bald head)
It shouldn't sound like a box of marbles. And bully dog and other smoker chips are programmed to dump a ton of fuel into the engine to "roll coal" but unless you adjust the oxygen intake you're really wasting it without creating more ponys...let's turn some diesel into NOISE!!!
Jesse Crain We’ve got an expert here, guys!
pretty truck but I don't care what anyone says it would sound better with a buzzing dozen
may sound better but a 3408 will outpull a V12 Detroit 2-stroke every day and twice on Sundays
Not one turned up, turned up E9 destroy both though
I love it, nice chat with the owner too!
drove truck # 357 at tom inman coe kw with a 3408 and a 12509 ... could top needes ca mtn w/80k gvw at 60 mph ... 1.5 to 5 mpg ... top spd 80mph + ... only issue(s) trans/rears would go to 180 to 220 to 250 + within 3 minutes ...
gotta love the way and CAT A-motor starts up really nice
Sounded like it lost prime, would be cool if they made it in a straight eight, with an extended hood, back when trucks where built and not engineered, cool stuff
I miss the 3408,1693 retired now,those were the best of time of the 70'S
Never late with a V8!!
😮That sounds like the opening scene from Smokie N the Bandit. 😊
beautiful truck. the ride along footage was great!
No way to operate that outfit with out smiling.... calendar girl large car....WOW Load and go
Hmmm so I guess no one caught that!?? Swap the plates??
I did and started to laugh thinking about a buddy of mine from back in the day running a pickup Florida tag on his Pete and a boat trailer tag on his trailer. He got pulled in the pits out on I 10 in Ca and had his wife talk to the lady doing the checking and you know the rest they checked out fine. God, those were the days and the things we did back then would get you thrown under a jailhouse now.
Yeah I did 😂🤣👍
i'm gonna pause it @4:49 , take a screenshot and save it as my desktop background
love that smoke on start up and when he got on. very niCe sound