BMW Off-Road Tires - Were They Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2021
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We are going back to the desert baby! BUT before we do we’re giving the e36 some new shoes wrapped in some fresh tires. We’ll be going over three types of tires in order to find out which tire is the best budget option for some weekend rally racing. Why are you still reading this?! Go watch the video and let us know what you think ;)
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i don’t remember an episode on a quick release wheel, sparco seats, and a full roll cage
I know!!!! It looks so sick
Faaaaaaacts
Exactly what I was going to say
Yeah what, they must've recorded more episodes before this one
Same man
“Looks like I just gotta massage the fender liner...” Next scene he has a freaking roll cage and spacro seats hahaha
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I'm based out of Utah now, so if you ever need some tire advice feel free to hmu. Great video. Enjoying the series.
Glad I viewed your channel after this comment
@@kylefaria8712 Thanks :D
What park of Utah I live in Saint Gezzy
@@zacharychristensen5236 slc :)
What made you decide to move from the UK to SLC of all places? (From another SLC-er haha). More varied conditions to test tires in & easier access to the American car/parts market?
So to summarize the tires:
Yokohamas - Hard Compound
Truck Tires - Medium Compound
Snow Tires - Soft Compound
Seeing the new steering wheel, seats and cage reminded me of the saying: "So I did a little mining off camera."
Mining bitcoin that is.
Next episode: does putting monster stickers on your car make you faster off road
I garentee for a fact yes
yes, instant 100HP gain
They dont make you go any faster brah...every one knows monster stickers increase your max grip!
No its *how dealerships are scamming you!*
Monster sport tuning or monster energy?
13:25 ahh yes, the infamous brake light that never works
15:20 This music even though more modern took me back for a moment to need for speed in the late 90s. I never played using any other music than electronics.
music is ripping. i hate it when im not the title or no way to get hands on it.
@@pinkpanther8427 Deep Into London - Bastien Slice
Raise your hand if you double checked all the Donut's recent uploads to see if you missed an episode for the steering wheel, sparco seats, and full roll cage HAHAHA. 😂
Definitely joined that escapade
Idk if eBay motors covers cages
@@pnwoffroader331 you could be right here however wouldn’t they at least mention it?
I bet they didnt include it because they want to include different things since this is a different build and they already did a wheel, roll bar/cage, seats and harnesses to the miata.
Y’all should do a hydraulic e brake. That would be sick for a rally car
and a sequential gearbox
@@LeoLynx- Did you miss the memo where this is a BUDGET build? a sequential is too expensive for this and not worth it unless you're doing some very competitive stuff
@@joealex65 i said it could be cool and not THEY SHOULD DO THIS AND THAT, dont get so hurted from this shit
@@LeoLynx- also they literally JUST changed the tranny
@@LeoLynx- That would be pretty cool.
the whole collective clips and editing to the course testing, music, sound effects and all, super bad ass
Can we take a second to appreciate how much production value has been elevated for this season? I mean drone footage, multicam in situ, etc - this show is very clearly a flagship of Donut
Money pit next wednesday: "Is installing a hydraulic e-brake worth it??"
Definitely! That's exactly what I was thinking for next episode
This needs to be pinned lol
I thought of when ChrisFix did that for his Drift-stang. Probably would help this rally car a lot.
Thats exactly what I came to to the comment section to say.
@@devonwyman9425 doubting they would. notice how they have a roll cage seats steering wheel without an episode
Donut: Hard to find a stock e36 that hasn’t been beat up nowadays
Also Donut: we found a stock e36 and we’re modifying it into a rally car
We are the cause of all our own problems
thats where the fun is at tho
They also bought an auto..... they’re easier to find
@@hollismedley3216 yea swapped it to manual though
@@hollismedley3216 and it was beat up
That desert scene was giving me NFS and Forza horizon vibes with that music.
What is that tracks name?
Sounds like it'd be called rallystep
*_it's called handbrake not e bare. freak_*
Fast and furious race wars vibes for me
@@cjserf2939 Deep Into London - Bastien Slice
Don't know if y'all check old comments anymore, but it would be nice to have this series in a playlist like you did the hi low cars, y'all put out so much great content, it can be tough to find older videos lol
Zach: i want to be budget
Also zach: i bought 3 sets of tires.
And 2 additional sets of rims....for budget reasons
Obviously you would buy one set. They tested it so we could pick out the best without testing other ones.
Your brain overheats easy
@@PremiumUserUltra yes
Did I miss the episode where he installed the rolling cage, racing seats, and steering wheel?
That’s the comment I was looking for.
yeah right... I was like... is it even the same car? what about the cage? if they swapped all that stuff... made the car lighter? which means quicker times? or was the tires and transmition really the answer?
I'd gamble it's mostly about safety, but eh
I know right. They aren’t boring episodes :(
Prob bc they did that on the miata already and dont want a similar video... or they prerecorded a few episodes
My favorite thing about donut has been watching them grow. They've finally got the means to do fun things like High-low and Money Pit. I'm stoked for Donut! They're living the dream! Thanks guys
At 16:42 when the subtitles say "Ooh, basic (indistinct) stop there" he's saying "basically came to a stop."
You are the person that holds society together and keeps world peace. 😂
Pls make a d-list ranking all initial d cars
@Creator Donut media lmao sod off
@@arteonyx
...and off they sodded.
@@arteonyx what did he said?
@@giancarlo418 Was a bot saying something like "thanks for the input" and then provided a whatsapp number
yes
I was certain this was coming: "I'm Zach. This is money pit. Let's get rollin'."
I was certain you were right
I'm so happy at this outcome. I've always noticed the snows pulling way better on dirt/ gravel than any all season.
"I've been prowling ebay buying stuff I like" pretty much sums up moneypit
the car went from stock interior to roll cage, racing seats and racing steering wheel
And prolly some other stuff, no way it runs a sub 4 second 0-60 stock
@@fever4174 that’s 60ft, not 60mph.
He spoiled racing seats, 6 point harnes, removable steering wheel, roll cage, and some other odds and ends. I'm so excited!
They did that on the Miata so maybe they won’t show it :((
@@jesuschrist4185 naaah! He did coilovers on the miata, and on the e36!
What I love about you guys is you never leave us with a cliffhanger. You talk about what you're gonna do then you go do it in the same video.
Seriously great show tho!!! This and up to speed are the best! Keep them coming!
What's great about Zach is that he's so knowledgeable, a great teacher and also totally not pretentious about it. I am not going to modify my 1:1 scale car, but this is such cool stuff to know.
I think for the truck tire, you should have gone for an A/T with a slightly aggressive sidewall. Loving these episodes!
BFG KO2's for that mall-terain traction😁
Lol Im sure its hard find truck tires for that wheel. At least without completely breaking the bank.
Yea those looked like the cargo tires and not necessarily truck tires.
I would agree. KO2, Duratracs, Wildpeak AT3w, would all work great
@@michaelkowalski8599 Toyo open country at2
Love this series!!! Good job guys!
Donut is killing it lately.
I had a 2016 Hyundai Sonata and live in Iowa on a gravel road. I put some BFG KO2’s on the stock 16 inch wheels. Threw off the speedometer by 3.7 mph but the performance on gravel and through the snow was fantastic. Left everything stock and cleared the inner wheel well like they were made for it. Since then I got an ND Miata and continue to love life. Thanks for the content and keep rockin!
We need a stocky of the money pit miata eventually!
Please
This man gets it
With actual pop up up and down headlights
No thanks
I feel like y’all missing a few episodes…. Roll cage, seats, steering wheel 😂😂
Was about to say this!🤣
Fax, I would have loved to see these episodes even if they were merged into 1 episode just to cover it. I know they did similar stuff with the Miata but still I think it would have given them a bit of extra content. Maybe they have plans that we aren't aware of, and that's ok.
Good Call
@@Lofi.z34 yeah, I feel like they didn’t want to put out a video since they already did it with the Miata. They probably assumed most ppl wouldn’t watch it and didn’t want to put the time, money, and effort into producing a video bc of that.
I watched them in order haha, there was even a video to suspension lift
this reminds me back when we had the miata wheel episode... good times, love this
Cinamatically stepping up the game!!! Great episode as aways 👏
"Any old tire" and "Just a" are not words I have ever associated with Yokohama rubber.
Really? Try buying some Eagle F1s and then come back to me...
@@LiamNI Kooooooooool
Fr. I've never spent more than £60 per tyre lol
Most expensive tires I’ve bought are Nittos for my Mustang GT. They’re great in the summer, terrible in the winter.
"E brake is much harder to reach" sooooo we already know the next money pit episode???
Next one is probably gonna be seats, steering and/or the full cage that wasn’t in the last video , but is in this one.
After those upgrades a slam stick is probably next but won't get it's own video. It's just a rewire to a new spot, probably in the same video where they do all the brakes
@@callsigngecko4723 I don't think so cuz there is already episodes about that with the Miata, they have no need to show it again
@@SixShooter7 they may show the full cage since the miata didn't have one
@@postalknight69 Maybe 🤷♂️
I've been noticing that Donut doesn't put a progress bar when it comes to their own ads... that's some genius marketing right there
Cracking production, hosting content and music on this show. Really enjoying it!
"I am swapping to studs like on a normal car "
Now, that is an insult, mister American xD
I've NEVER heard anyone say that! Studs are SHIT! He knows a lot, but the only thing studs are good for is holding the wheel when you install it - that's it! Bolts are superior in everything else!
@@LazyRASHO then why does everyone switch to studs for everything else?
@@LazyRASHO now I'm wondering why are the studs better
I have an e30 and been thinking for a while in switching from bolts to studs since it's way easier to switch wheels
@@seanmccarty1176 Because MURICA! They'll switch anything for something else! :D
@@brianfarinha1720 If you switch wheels and tires super frequently it will make it a bit easier (if it goes without issues), but for seasonal change - not worth it! I've had so many people having problems with broken studs on multiple occasions and on multiple wheels at the SAME TIME and then having to go to the workshop to get them out and replaced or even having to replace the whole wheel hub and bearing, because the thread was too beat up! NEVER seen one having a similar problem with BOLTS!
Roll bar through the dash looks sick. Can’t wait to se that install vid.
Fav Ep in a while. Love the POV
“I’m Zach and this is money pit, let’s get rollin’!”
Was a missed opportunity.
Maybe im retarded but i dont understand lol
@@winkiiiie wheels.
Just awesome production quality! !!!
This was a perfectly crafted video with such a great grading scale
The “like and subscribe” tune that’s played after the ad read gives me so much serotonin
It's the little touches that make this channel feel so great like the tone equals "you know what we need, now back to the show" super quickly and cleanly
I love this series so much!!! But when is hi low coming out
Agreed
Just sayin, yall made a new Money Pit for a style of car that i want to build for a living. Yall are really helpin a man see his potential but also yallbare feeding my dream. Thank you guy one love
Please never stop this MoneyPit series! Love it
I like how donut is starting to feel a bit more top Gear, the whole handing over a sheet of data thing really made me wonder just how entertaining it would be to watch these guys get given small budgets and have to take their cars across country just like the top Gear guys used to do until the good ones went and made their own show and now top Gear sucks cuz they can never recreate that magic they had with those 3 dudes and I think donut has the potential to do something new and possibly just as good? I've literally never driven a car in my life I just like the presenters on this channel
PSA. I passed out reciting this run on sentence in one breath. 0/10 would not try again
@@jonathanlunger2775 made me friggin lightheaded
The Donut boys would be too nice to each other, I'd say Jason Cammisa and the ISSIMI camera crew feel more like Top Gear, although they're massive car nerds.
Go watch Car Trek on youtube
Check out the Gears and Gasoline roadtrips
Jesus I can't imagine how much of a installing/uninstalling was there, so much damn work in this episode
just like any other one
changing tyres is max 3 min of work, if youve got a good jack and with lug nuts instead of bolts. on my 106gti racecar i still have bolts, and I can do it in around 3-4 min, including torquing
@@gerritsikkema5776 yeah i get that but still
They will have done all the tests one one set....then all the tests on the next set....then all the tests in the last set.....then edited it to look like they were doing one test at a time. If they didn’t they are morons 😂
We used to do all our tire repairs in 15 minutes or under at Discount Tire. In the Arizona heat too.
@@seshelbow336 The results were likely to be more consistent if they did one test at a time, so it makes more sense. The goal here was to get useful data, not to do as little work as possible.
dang... that rally driving sequence was awesome. very nice drone work. Good pacing and edits.
I love your show!!!! please don't ever stop it I swear it makes my day
Those 3 tyres are basically f1 compounds, soft medium and hard
WRC...
though that snow tire looks like it'd last a few laps longer than a pirelli hard tyre
I was thinking the same thing.
Truck tyre : hardest
Yokahoma : Medium
Snow : Soft.
When did they put a rollcage, racing seats, and a quick release steering wheel?
They gonna release those eps soon
You should have mentioned the air pressures in the tires, which can make a huge difference!
Good episode i liked the music!
Great video as always and seeing the difference in each tire will be greatly beneficial to the direction of the rest of the series.
Totally unrelated questions though about things that happened to catch my attention in the video.
1.) Are you just going to install a roll cage and not give us an entire episode on that???
2.) The red Tacoma that delivered the tires, could that be a contender for hi low season 2? If so, I'm so ready for it!
Seeing 3 sets of tires in that truck made me feel some sorta way
Considering the problem I'm hearing, seems we'll be getting a hydro e-brake episode next
considering that you missed the whole sparco seat,upgraded steering wheel and a full on roll cage
@@fricxensilang5902 why would they do an episode on that when they already did it on the miata
@@ChrisPBolsak A little Rollbar is a TINY bit different than a full on cage.
@@ChrisPBolsak Nooo look at the top comment, Donut Media said that will be the next ep read it
@@Qutut Yeah, Indeed
I love the roll cage through the dash! Looks sick
9:26 felt some crisfix vibes
Tires are the most underrated mod 👍🏼
Is there going to be a video about weight reduction/Stripping the interior?
Chris fix already did that
@@LandenDenham no one cares about him, it’s about the car they’re building
Yeeeee
@@Donut hi donut
ZJ & Donut, thank you so much for doing this.
I have the yoko’s on my 10th gen civic and I love them. They even work on icy Missouri roads.
I'm waiting for this uhggg!! hope to have more video of this every week
Those viking contact 7 tires kick ass on the ice and snow. I went last winter with those in my awd golf. In finland.
When HR says you need a cage for 'Safety'
He: He wants to be budgety
Himself : buys all truck tyres, old tyres and snow tyres 😂🤣
*tire
@@ansoncook2547 I'm from india bro.... British English (tyre) nvm
cringe
@@ansoncook2547 why cringe? I'm from New Zealand, it's tyre here too.. British English, aka English English, aka PROPER English.
@@ansoncook2547 you definitely took the short bus to school
17:44 That is a nice shot. nice work from the drone pilot
Do e brake and exhaust/headers next. We need that beamer sounding like a rally car.
I'm so thankful you guys go through with testing three types of tyres for this kind of off road setup...
Saves a lot of people a lot of money and time researching.
Anyone in a Subaru, Rally car or even sporty crossover (like my Hyundai Kona) AWD or RWD, it looks like the truck tyres fare best (as I anticipated).
Difference in lap times are negligable, its wear and tear that is most important, and seeing that the truck tyres help up the best in wear and came pretty close to being quickest, it seems like a no brainer. Glad my intuition togo with something like the Pirelli Scorpions was a good op (well, when I can afford them :P).
Just bought some studs for the conversion, thanks for the demo lol
Combine two or three dirt bike tires that's definitely a good idea.
1:50 that Tacoma was beautiful, it was in dang mint condition
ideed
Wow. So clean, looks straight from the factory
they hinted they were going to use Tacomas for the next HiLow... that might be one of them
Interesting result. I expected a near tie from the all season and the truck tire (the truck tire is a highway tread truck tire, basically the same as all-season). An AT truck tire (if you could find one in that size) would probably be best. I didn’t expect the snow tire to do well since snow and dirt traction requirements are way different. Not surprised to see it got shredded though, since snow tires are designed for use on low friction surfaces, not sand paper lol.
the camera shots on the desert were just perf 👌👌
A tread depth measurement would have been nice to compare the amount of tread lost between the tires. The snow tires seem softer which would look more beat up even if it lost the same amount of tread as a harder tire. Also throwing in a 200 tw tire (typical autox tire) would have been interesting to see if it survived and how it compared time wise.
I love how you can see the dust fly out from where the shifter is 🤣
I love money pit. Such a great series.
Good as usual. But all the camera work and drone footage is done very well! Cool!!!
The music towards the end with the railway announcements really freaked me out because I live in Brighton and know all those places. I thought there was a problem with my sound.
Thought the exact same
Lol 😂
Hey you're down the road from me lol
Y'all should host a rallycross event at your "track"
Honestly, i think money pit is the best video series on RUclips! I love it
"studs, like a normal car" Europe begs to differ
Changing tires on studs and bolts is exactly the same complexity....
@@balazsfarkas-jenser2230 studs with lug nuts is easier cause you can hang the wheel on the studs and then bolt it on
@@xavierp3619 put 1 bolt in wheel before placing on hub --> put on hub --> tighten bolt --> install other bolts --> done.
@@balazsfarkas-jenser2230 There's also a tool that makes it easier.
Don't know what its called but it just screws to the hub, you put the wheel on, unscrew the tool, screw in the bolts.
@@balazsfarkas-jenser2230 I get your point but it's still harder cuz you still have to get 1 bolt in. Over here (in TX) we were comparing wheels and you can just slip one on to see how it looks / fits and see the offset. It's just easier. I guess we can both agree though centerlocks are the best.
I think that the truck tire in the case of a daily driver/weekend rally owner is going to ultimately offer the best experience. It's unlikely to be the fastest tire due to weight of the construction but you are less likely to end your weekend early because you blew a tire and need to try and get a replacement in time to go to work on Monday.
I foresee a hydraulic e brake coming, I also wonder if starting in second gear instead of first would help, especially with the rear end being low geared
I love the Acsend gt. They are awesome tires for normal usage (or slightly aggressive). They have awesome grip on wet roads.
The drone shots are nicely done!
Video idea: what type of shifter for automatic is best, you could do ratchet, column, floor shifter, and many others that hook up to automatic
Wednesday’s are officially the best. First money pit, THEN LOKI!🕺🏼
Hell Yeah Brother!
Always the best tire is the one that has the most contact with the ground. Go wide then take some air out to go wider with a good alignment. 👍all season ftw
Clutch kick is what you'll need in addition to the E-brake for getting good in the slides.
"Tires don't really matter"
Formula 1: "let me introduce myself"
Everybody begging me to pull them out last December are offended
*any offroad racing series enters the chat*
You definetely need to install a hydro e-brake in this car.
I loved the rally step music there lol. Heard "left 4" and was like "I know what that is."
GREAT JOB ON THE CAMERA WORK
Best part of this entire episode was the Zach golf ball transition.
I love how you guys changed tires for every test instead of doing all the tests on each tire then reviewing the numbers so you would only have to swap them all once.
Did they?