He is a great comedian and actor, no doubt. But he hasn't been a practising professional engineer, even though he has important qualifications in that subject from many years ago. EVs may not be perfect today, I agree. But necessity is the mother of invention. And EVs are improving rapidly. We also need to be honest about how we use cars. EVs may not be great for very long journeys, but the greater majority of journeys are quite short and well within range. And EVs can be recharged at home every day. Perfection is often the enemy of the good. And my opinion is that EVs are good for a multitude of reasons. And they are getting better every day.
I fully agree with you, you expressed pretty much my opinion on this. However I wonder if someone else wrote the article and he just put his name on it.
Interesting video. I do find it a little bit of a distraction piece telling us all that EVs are not comparable to Hydrogen-powered vehicles, for example, when most people's focus is on EVs as compared to ICEs. That's where I am. I find that, regarding EVs, we as a demographic, are running down the electric vehicle path more as a "get away from fossil fuels" reaction than a "here are all the benefits of EVs". I want to know all the answers to my questions, and I have many, that make the EV choice the smart choice and not a "feel-good" choice. So far I have not seen anyone come up with an argument that makes me say "I get it now. I NEED an EV." All I'm sensing now is more Government control over my life. The first question I have is: "where does the electricity to charge come from?" I understand Power Generation and the only option I see is Nuclear but, every time someone says Nuclear, there's a wide-eyed reaction and a "Chernobyl???" remark. Wind power won't work everywhere (no wind today). Solar panels won't work everywhere (not sunny today). Remember you can't store electricity. Another one: Let's say that EVs are forced down the population's throats by Government, through a mandate of "EVs only by 2035" let's say. That surely means NEW vehicles can only be EVs. What will happen? People will simply hang on to their old ICEs and trade-up to newer ICE models. Surely the manufacturers and the Governments around the World need to let the free market control the progression to EVs. I don't see a trend to that adoption. I think we need more vids, such as yours, to allow all of us to examine the pros and cons of every option so we can make an educated decision on the way forward. Thanks for your thoughts.
@@LatutaEV Only 5% of the Earth's surface? Do you understand what that actually means? That doesn't mean 5% of the land, it means 5% of the surface: Land + Water. Since most of the water is too deep to utilize, that will mean, based on 5% of the surface area, every piece of land and shallow water area. You always have to watch these "studies" because they're incredibly good at bifurcating words. This is what I say vs. this is what I mean.
@@LatutaEV That would be a good solution if everyone is on the same page. Unfortunately, certain countries will continue to burn coal, if they have it, or wood, since some countries will refuse to mine their coal, and we will end-up potentially with the sky being covered with ash clouds and, even if the United States is the "good Country" and only has solar panels, we won't have any sunshine. I do trust Elon Musk. I think he's a good man in this regard. I simply don't trust Federal Governments who think "great idea" without knowing anything. Why can't we have an "all of the above" concept? Do people really believe that there's going to be a "Nirvana moment" in 2035 where every fossil fuel will be switched off? A day where everything will be wind farms/solar panels/wave machines? The fact that we have nutcases proclaiming the end of the Earth "soon" is just insanity. We live in a Country where we have such good EPA standards compared to India and China that our biggest concern is: "what the heck is coming from those two countries?" I'm in favor of electric power. What I'm not in favor of is precipitous lemming-like behavior where we're running off a cliff just to make a very small group of virtue-signalers happy. Show me the science. Convince me that it will work. Show me the Economics. Then let's talk.
@@stevegarside2471 are EVs in motion more or less dangerous than ICE? Consider occupant safety in a crash , environmental effects including health effects of tailpipe emissions, bushfires and scrub fires and effects of road closures associated with a vehicle malfunction or crash (ie consequential impact of the fire or breakdown)
Rowan used a set of ice parameters to judge the future value of an EV. History of used cars both ice and early EVs, indicates EVs with 300-400km range will be sought after for those seeking a safe and economical vehicle. Why did Rowan not consider the future of EVs from the perspective (needs and budgets) of the average family ie low running costs if charging at home, vehicle to load, lower CoG and structural battery makes it more crash worthy, lower incident rate of fire, nil gas or noise pollution into the street, ability to park and leave unattended with climate control active, smoother quieter ride.. none of these features are effected by a battery with 70% charge. Why didn’t Rowan see these features as being valuable to a household looking for a 10 year old vehicle?
You nailed it, your comment is spot on. I think Rowan is biased, if you have Aston Martin and McLaren in your garage you are not particularly thinking about family looking for a 10 year old vehicle, right.
Think about it. If an electric car can last twice as long (gas tools constantly need repairing and replacing, but my electric tools have lasted me for decades with basically no maintenance) then we only need to make half the cars in the first place!
The only part that degrades in time is a battery but so far the degradation shown is very small if the battery was looked after. But those can be upgraded and as technology improves it will get better as well.
That is a good school of though however the current market place we all live in has almost every major manufacturer lobbying and legally representing that you dont actually own your vehicle,tractor,PC, etc.... There is also planned obsolences as it exists currently built into all gas vehicles now. My point being that even if the electric vehicle could out last a ICE vehicle do you really think manufacturers are going to sell you a vehicle that would outlast ICE at the expense of sales? The only reason the sell electric cars is because of the tax credits, grants and other handouts from government Tesla would not exist if not for those reasons. Leases will still exist and manufactures will still plan and work toward a product that gets replaced every three to five years as they do now.
I am not saying that EVs are the saviours but I can't believe all the lies and misdirection that seems to surround them. This reminds me how cigarette manufacturers were trying to persuade people that smoking is good for them 😂
Thank you for your support. I am glad that people can see the truth through the FUD. I suspect that type of article was sponsored by oil companies this reminds me of cigarette manufacturers trying to prove tha smoking is good for you.
I wrote a couple of comments say that this was clearly a PR piece that Rowan Atkinson was paid to slap his name on, all moderated by the guardian. I doubt Atkinson wrote a single word himself. All the talking points were nearly identical to the other hit pieces against electric cars. It pretty stunning that a organisation like the Guardian would fall for it.
60 thousands trucks sound like a lot but what percentage of European trucks is it .Volvo electric went up 4 foald . Giving the impression that it some thing like 50 percent of volvo sales. Hevy trucks cross Europe ideal for energy stored in battery's right🙄
Great De-bunker of the original video.Glad you took the trouble to point out all the glaring inacuracies.It's a shame the guardian still puts out this rubish but I'm guessing there is a financial imperitive.Readership and eyeballs trump truth most of the time unfortunately.
Thank you so much I just couldn't ignore it as it seems so many people repeat that especially when a famous name is associated with this misinformation
Real reason why he hates EV: A specific version of *Atkinson Cycle* is extremely efficient (not Toyota's famous Atkinson Cycle). Unfortunately it is even rarer than hydrogen EV, it only exists when Rowan Atkinson is riding his old bicycle. Basically zero emission as long as he doesn't fart. 😂😁😁
I am all for freedom of choice as long as you don't spread lies about EVs and pedal in oil companies agenda so the can keep making billions of dollars by selling oil to us I am fine with it 😁
EVs are a long way from prime time usage. So far, no country has the infrastructure in place. If you live in the USA, it is a total joke if you plan on driving from one state to another. So far, it is still more expensive and polluting to own an EV over a standard petrol car over its life time.
Sure. I sometimes think, internet and global comunication is not so good. Fool like him blocking London main roads in the name: "Stop oil." F this C!!! How did they get there? Probably in fossill fueled vehicle. 😂
I respectfully disagree, in some European countries the charging infrastructure is getting better. I live in the UK and drive an electric car myself. I can get charging in most areas with no problems. The best charging network is Tesla of course. While I have VW ID3 I managed just fine I would imagine someone with Tesla would have it even better
@@LatutaEV You just confirmed my statement, now you are telling me you disagree with yourself as well? You battery argument is just plain silly (rare earth). If I remove 5% of the batteries construction, teh battery stops working. You live in a world of coulda/shoulda.
Government policy is the only reason there is a market for electric. If electric was so great you wouldnt have to use others people's money or government force to get people to by them.
@@LatutaEV Government should do the same for all the toxic metals released into the environment from electric vehicles. Who do we tax every time one of the batteries burns dumping compounds far worse than fossil fuels into the environment. Dont forget Electric vehicles are powered by fossil fueled electricity.
Also taxing any industry or corporation is just a tax on everyone else. All costs in any business are passed downstream so thats always pointless to think that so how harms the business.
SOME tesla batteries now dont use cobalt. SOME! If you are trying to call out untruths, dont state untruths! Likelihood that batteries will last more than 10 years is irrelevant and we will not know if this is correct for 10 years.( none of my tool batteries have ever lasted 10 years and they are the same cells as 99% of ev batteries) people are VERY wary of buying 2nd hand ev's because of legitimate concerns about cost of replacement batteries.
More than 50% don't use Co and the other 50 reduced Co content to 2% or less so stop crying about Co mining and child labour for EV batteries and raise the awareness of I phone batteries using 100% Cobalt in their cathodes. EV batteries are not the same as you use in your tools but more importantly BMS in EV manage batteries charge and discharge differently
@Latuta EV So, the next step is to stop sharing your views because you are acting like 6yo, and some people are buying your BSh. Let me try from another side. How many doses of vaccination you had? That will tell me something.
He is a great comedian and actor, no doubt. But he hasn't been a practising professional engineer, even though he has important qualifications in that subject from many years ago. EVs may not be perfect today, I agree. But necessity is the mother of invention. And EVs are improving rapidly. We also need to be honest about how we use cars. EVs may not be great for very long journeys, but the greater majority of journeys are quite short and well within range. And EVs can be recharged at home every day. Perfection is often the enemy of the good. And my opinion is that EVs are good for a multitude of reasons. And they are getting better every day.
I fully agree with you, you expressed pretty much my opinion on this. However I wonder if someone else wrote the article and he just put his name on it.
"And EVs are improving rapidly....."
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Examples?
Interesting video. I do find it a little bit of a distraction piece telling us all that EVs are not comparable to Hydrogen-powered vehicles, for example, when most people's focus is on EVs as compared to ICEs. That's where I am. I find that, regarding EVs, we as a demographic, are running down the electric vehicle path more as a "get away from fossil fuels" reaction than a "here are all the benefits of EVs". I want to know all the answers to my questions, and I have many, that make the EV choice the smart choice and not a "feel-good" choice. So far I have not seen anyone come up with an argument that makes me say "I get it now. I NEED an EV." All I'm sensing now is more Government control over my life.
The first question I have is: "where does the electricity to charge come from?" I understand Power Generation and the only option I see is Nuclear but, every time someone says Nuclear, there's a wide-eyed reaction and a "Chernobyl???" remark. Wind power won't work everywhere (no wind today). Solar panels won't work everywhere (not sunny today). Remember you can't store electricity. Another one: Let's say that EVs are forced down the population's throats by Government, through a mandate of "EVs only by 2035" let's say. That surely means NEW vehicles can only be EVs. What will happen? People will simply hang on to their old ICEs and trade-up to newer ICE models. Surely the manufacturers and the Governments around the World need to let the free market control the progression to EVs. I don't see a trend to that adoption.
I think we need more vids, such as yours, to allow all of us to examine the pros and cons of every option so we can make an educated decision on the way forward. Thanks for your thoughts.
Thank you very much for your kind words. I fully agree with the hypothesis that we need to come up with an argument what actually makes EV better.
On a separate note I agree with Elon that solar+ battery is the solution. We have nuclear fusion reactor in the sky why do need Chernobyl 😂
According to the Tesla master plan 3 if we cover only 5 % of the earth's surface with solar we can cover (pun intended) all our energy needs
@@LatutaEV Only 5% of the Earth's surface? Do you understand what that actually means? That doesn't mean 5% of the land, it means 5% of the surface: Land + Water. Since most of the water is too deep to utilize, that will mean, based on 5% of the surface area, every piece of land and shallow water area. You always have to watch these "studies" because they're incredibly good at bifurcating words. This is what I say vs. this is what I mean.
@@LatutaEV That would be a good solution if everyone is on the same page. Unfortunately, certain countries will continue to burn coal, if they have it, or wood, since some countries will refuse to mine their coal, and we will end-up potentially with the sky being covered with ash clouds and, even if the United States is the "good Country" and only has solar panels, we won't have any sunshine.
I do trust Elon Musk. I think he's a good man in this regard. I simply don't trust Federal Governments who think "great idea" without knowing anything.
Why can't we have an "all of the above" concept? Do people really believe that there's going to be a "Nirvana moment" in 2035 where every fossil fuel will be switched off? A day where everything will be wind farms/solar panels/wave machines?
The fact that we have nutcases proclaiming the end of the Earth "soon" is just insanity. We live in a Country where we have such good EPA standards compared to India and China that our biggest concern is: "what the heck is coming from those two countries?"
I'm in favor of electric power. What I'm not in favor of is precipitous lemming-like behavior where we're running off a cliff just to make a very small group of virtue-signalers happy.
Show me the science. Convince me that it will work. Show me the Economics. Then let's talk.
Geoff and Rowan got duped.
Yep pretty much 😂
Don't talk wet. EVs are dangerous.
@@stevegarside2471 are EVs in motion more or less dangerous than ICE? Consider occupant safety in a crash , environmental effects including health effects of tailpipe emissions, bushfires and scrub fires and effects of road closures associated with a vehicle malfunction or crash (ie consequential impact of the fire or breakdown)
Rowan used a set of ice parameters to judge the future value of an EV. History of used cars both ice and early EVs, indicates EVs with 300-400km range will be sought after for those seeking a safe and economical vehicle. Why did Rowan not consider the future of EVs from the perspective (needs and budgets) of the average family ie low running costs if charging at home, vehicle to load, lower CoG and structural battery makes it more crash worthy, lower incident rate of fire, nil gas or noise pollution into the street, ability to park and leave unattended with climate control active, smoother quieter ride.. none of these features are effected by a battery with 70% charge. Why didn’t Rowan see these features as being valuable to a household looking for a 10 year old vehicle?
You nailed it, your comment is spot on. I think Rowan is biased, if you have Aston Martin and McLaren in your garage you are not particularly thinking about family looking for a 10 year old vehicle, right.
Think about it. If an electric car can last twice as long (gas tools constantly need repairing and replacing, but my electric tools have lasted me for decades with basically no maintenance) then we only need to make half the cars in the first place!
The only part that degrades in time is a battery but so far the degradation shown is very small if the battery was looked after. But those can be upgraded and as technology improves it will get better as well.
That is a good school of though however the current market place we all live in has almost every major manufacturer lobbying and legally representing that you dont actually own your vehicle,tractor,PC, etc.... There is also planned obsolences as it exists currently built into all gas vehicles now. My point being that even if the electric vehicle could out last a ICE vehicle do you really think manufacturers are going to sell you a vehicle that would outlast ICE at the expense of sales? The only reason the sell electric cars is because of the tax credits, grants and other handouts from government Tesla would not exist if not for those reasons. Leases will still exist and manufactures will still plan and work toward a product that gets replaced every three to five years as they do now.
Hey love the channel and electric stuff inc bikes etc.....sorry mate evs are just not the saviour everyone thinks they are 👌 all the best
I am not saying that EVs are the saviours but I can't believe all the lies and misdirection that seems to surround them. This reminds me how cigarette manufacturers were trying to persuade people that smoking is good for them 😂
Volvo report was simply a guide for Volvo efforts to decrease its CO2 emissions. It was never meant to be use to attack electric cars
Perhaps but it clearly skewed the figures against electric cars in favour of ICE
Thank you for doing this video. It is necessary to call out the lies and half-truths when they appear, or they gain credibility.
Thank you for your support. I am glad that people can see the truth through the FUD. I suspect that type of article was sponsored by oil companies this reminds me of cigarette manufacturers trying to prove tha smoking is good for you.
I wrote a couple of comments say that this was clearly a PR piece that Rowan Atkinson was paid to slap his name on, all moderated by the guardian. I doubt Atkinson wrote a single word himself. All the talking points were nearly identical to the other hit pieces against electric cars. It pretty stunning that a organisation like the Guardian would fall for it.
This is a possibility but it is amazing that someone is pushing the hydrogen agenda while getting facts so glearingly wrong.
60 thousands trucks sound like a lot but what percentage of European trucks is it .Volvo electric went up 4 foald . Giving the impression that it some thing like 50 percent of volvo sales. Hevy trucks cross Europe ideal for energy stored in battery's right🙄
Yes pretty much
Great De-bunker of the original video.Glad you took the trouble to point out all the glaring inacuracies.It's a shame the guardian still puts out this rubish but I'm guessing there is a financial imperitive.Readership and eyeballs trump truth most of the time unfortunately.
Thank you so much I just couldn't ignore it as it seems so many people repeat that especially when a famous name is associated with this misinformation
@@LatutaEV Quite!
Amazing video ...
Oh no Carlos can't be 😁
Real reason why he hates EV:
A specific version of *Atkinson Cycle* is extremely efficient (not Toyota's famous Atkinson Cycle).
Unfortunately it is even rarer than hydrogen EV,
it only exists when Rowan Atkinson is riding his old bicycle. Basically zero emission as long as he doesn't fart.
😂😁😁
Brilliant, love this comment ❤️
I'm never going to use an electric cars there rubbish.
Depending on how old you are you may not have to 😉
I am all for freedom of choice as long as you don't spread lies about EVs and pedal in oil companies agenda so the can keep making billions of dollars by selling oil to us I am fine with it 😁
EVs are a long way from prime time usage. So far, no country has the infrastructure in place. If you live in the USA, it is a total joke if you plan on driving from one state to another. So far, it is still more expensive and polluting to own an EV over a standard petrol car over its life time.
Sure. I sometimes think, internet and global comunication is not so good.
Fool like him blocking London main roads in the name: "Stop oil."
F this C!!! How did they get there? Probably in fossill fueled vehicle. 😂
Read my commet above, Pal.
@EVbolt What is incorrect?
I respectfully disagree, in some European countries the charging infrastructure is getting better. I live in the UK and drive an electric car myself. I can get charging in most areas with no problems. The best charging network is Tesla of course. While I have VW ID3 I managed just fine I would imagine someone with Tesla would have it even better
@@LatutaEV You just confirmed my statement, now you are telling me you disagree with yourself as well? You battery argument is just plain silly (rare earth). If I remove 5% of the batteries construction, teh battery stops working. You live in a world of coulda/shoulda.
The futures electric! There's already better/cheaper batteries in the pipeline. Its Government policy that's the problem!
Yes I fully agree EV could be cheaper if EV credits continued
Government policy is the only reason there is a market for electric. If electric was so great you wouldnt have to use others people's money or government force to get people to by them.
@@brucegillingham2793 Government should tax oil companies to pay for the environment damage they caused
@@LatutaEV Government should do the same for all the toxic metals released into the environment from electric vehicles. Who do we tax every time one of the batteries burns dumping compounds far worse than fossil fuels into the environment. Dont forget Electric vehicles are powered by fossil fueled electricity.
Also taxing any industry or corporation is just a tax on everyone else. All costs in any business are passed downstream so thats always pointless to think that so how harms the business.
SOME tesla batteries now dont use cobalt. SOME! If you are trying to call out untruths, dont state untruths! Likelihood that batteries will last more than 10 years is irrelevant and we will not know if this is correct for 10 years.( none of my tool batteries have ever lasted 10 years and they are the same cells as 99% of ev batteries) people are VERY wary of buying 2nd hand ev's because of legitimate concerns about cost of replacement batteries.
More than 50% don't use Co and the other 50 reduced Co content to 2% or less so stop crying about Co mining and child labour for EV batteries and raise the awareness of I phone batteries using 100% Cobalt in their cathodes. EV batteries are not the same as you use in your tools but more importantly BMS in EV manage batteries charge and discharge differently
I don't need a coffe. Thank you.
I don't think I offered any 😂
@Latuta EV So, the next step is to stop sharing your views because you are acting like 6yo, and some people are buying your BSh.
Let me try from another side.
How many doses of vaccination you had? That will tell me something.
He is a talented actor but not a good transport analyst.
Yes that is for sure 😁