Matt's Scaly Kettle | Two Of These People Are Lying 2x04 | The Technical Difficulties
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- We finish out the series with Henricus, "Dangers of the Engagement Period", and a reminder to Matt to descale his kettle.
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Featuring: Matt Gray: mattg.co.uk - @MattGrayYes
Gary Brannan: @garybrannan
and Chris Joel, who doesn't do this social media nonsense
Edited by Elliot Gough
Audio mix by Graham Haerther haerther.net
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In all seriousness, apologies to the couple of folks who do track the scores. That's the end of this run, we should be back next year! -- Tom
awww
Looking forward to seeing more upon its return!
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Next Year???????
So... same time next month?
Can Chris get his own series where he just tells stories? I don't care if they're complete bollocks
I'd kickstarter that book/podcast/vlog series.
I'd sub! Hell i'd patreon
C K I agree! that whole turn he was telling the story, Gary, Matt and Tom didn’t say a word. Completely captivated
He and Gary need their own Park Bench like vlog where they just riff on random things or tell oddball stories.
That would be amazing. That could inspire so many good tv shows or book series.
Chris “Minor Vehicular Events” Joel
Gary “South Korean Lover’s Guide” Brannan
Matt “Glandular Leaves” Grey
Tom "Imma have to rule you out, Gary" Scott
Alternatively Colonel Tom "Cockypants" Scott
@@westcheap
Could as well be Tom „I‘ve been to Finland“ Scott
Matt “GCSE in Latin” Grey
Tom "well this is genuinely really difficult" Scott
Tom "Strikes out Gary" Scott
Chris’ story of Henricus the Drunk NEEDS to be made into a six episode miniseries.
By AMC, intro being a Monty Python rip-off.
For most Britons 6 episodes is an entire series, not a mini-series.
New Drunk History spinoff: Drunk Fake History (about drunks)
Ryan Coleman
Nah, a series needs at least eight episodes.
@@ryanjcole for most britons an episode is a good hour of t.v. not including commercials :) so 6 episodes to a series in britain = 12 episodes in the us :)
This game needs a mystery biscuits button just for that from Chris
It could definitely use some mystery biscuits. But it should be a total surprise. As in, Tom shouldn’t even tell the guys, he should just rig it so he’s got a secret button and then BAM!
True, 't was a magnificent story!
Although it does have one little give-away: in Caesar's age you couldn't have been inspired by Jesus, because Jesus was born around 50 years after Caesar died :s
Having said that, it was an age of Messiah-like men, there might well have been others before Jesus to be inspired by...
@@gertjannolten4849 Ah, but the thing is, he said "Caesar-*era*", which blurs the lines and widens the range quite a bit
Mystery bollocks
@@gertjannolten4849 Caesar Augustus
"and you shouldn't either" - there goes my spreadsheet then
Matt Parker fan, eh?
@@vaclav_fejt probably something of a parker spreadsheet.
@@vaclav_fejt There was a little mistake in my counting though, but hey, it's close enough
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@@alansmithee419 well, rather a parker spreadsheet than a parker square
Chris has the same energy as a museum curator that just loves whatever he's talking about and gives a speech in one corner of the museum for like 5 hours about the evolution of toasters.
Sure, but won't we carefully listen to every bit? 😅
Never happened.
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@@qwertyTRiGHenricus the drunk is very real
Having more chat about the lies after the round is very a good thing
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Or a bit without Tom where the other three strategize and/or something. Also, I’d love to see one where they all have really detailed lies just to mess with Tom
This series now has a tagline: "A show where two-thirds of everything were made up and the points don't matter."
Except from the last episode. "A show where half of everything is made up and the points don't matter as long as Tom doesn't get the most."
@@andymcl92 more like "a show when one third of everything is made up and the points don't matter as long as Tom doesn't get the most". Chris didn't make his story up, even if he didn't tell the whole truth.
@@jonathanjam1158 Meh, Chris wasn't lying and everything he said was true. It just wasn't his article!
mfaizsyahmi. Don’t forget: where title songs aren’t needed
So Citation Needed
Y'all should do a run where you switch off who are trying to decipher the lies. I think it'd spice it up and I also would love to see Tom, the man who cannot tell a lie, try to bluff his way through making up a Wikipedia article. Plus Gary could get his revenge on Tom.
They did something like this with their old reverse trivia podcast, where for one episode Matt read out the answers instead so that Tom could participate. It was funny and I support them doing it again in a different format.
If they ever do a citation needed encore, it needs at least one episode with Gary or Chris running the show.
Yes, they could make one series of 3-4 episodes with Matt in the lead, then another for Gary and one for Chris. That would be 9-12 more episodes, and they would have new fresh material too in case they were worried about that.
Everyone's like we need the Henricus book, but I want the South Korean lovers guide parody book.
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SPQR?
"It's gonna be really boring compared to that..."
To quote Chris during Citation needed, 'Most things are'
"We weren't keeping track of the scores, and you shouldn't either." I think you've found your outro.
yea, is low key catchy too
Agreed. It's also a trope of British comedy improv done in a game show style. As in Who's Line is it Anyways?.
Marc Arsenault isnt who’s line originally an American show though?. Nevermind i was thinking the british version was an adaptation and not the original.
Edit- self correction
"Where everything is made up and the points don't matter"
@@evdweide where ALMOST everything is made up 😉
Fun prank on Tom: all of these people are lying, he thinks one of them is telling the true but its just all lies
This is an underrated idea that i now want very badly!
Down a bit from tromsø
Or they are all telling the truth.
But yours is much funnier.
How Gary's been playing
About that...
Matt : really bad at lying
Gary : really bad at making things plausible
Chris : adds way too much information
Tom : useless without a computer
Everyone : makes me laugh so much I almost die
You can tell when Chris is lying, he seems to remember every little detail, but when he's telling the truth, he has to jog his memory several times to get the details out.
I totally believed Chris on the second one just because of how much he was stumbling over years and names and very clearly trying to figure out who was engaged to whom and all that!
It was obvious that Chris's Henricus story was a lie; it wasn't about geology.
His other story being true, that was the surprise.
spoiler alert :o
I feel like the more Chris gesticulates while explaining, the more likely he is to be lying.
Edit: Also, on a re-watch, that bit where he gets confused about whether or not to say *Ancient* Rome is a dead give-away. Wikipedia would've used a certain phrasing that he would've then picked up on.
Whenever Matt goes meta and starts talking about stubs or citations he’s more likely to be lying.
@@Azeria I noticed that, too. The moment Matt said he clicked random until he found something decent, I immediately dismissed his story.
@Azeria or if he says it's a band/music festival/audio thing...because come on.
Yeh, that and the fact that "around the time of Ceasar and Jesus" no one in Europe would have heard of the "holy land" and Christianity didn't spread widely until the 2nd and 3rd centuries. That was the main giveaway.
@@Azeria I'm afraid that cheat doesn't work. When Matt was talking about the Ageratina Occidentalis in the second episode, he quickly started talking about it possibly being a joke article and how some people deface Wikipedia.
*halfway through Chris's Epic of Henricus*
"Hold on, that's literally the story of Dionysus! Does he... does he even know? Just replace Rome with Thebes and change the ending a bit..."
Excellently told; good man, either way. Second best telling of that story I've ever heard, and the best involved Dionysus in a leotard making fun of the entire medium of theatre via the medium of metafictional historic stand-up Greek Comedy.
Behold, a man!
literally what I thought
Can we find the leotard version of Dionysus somewhere?
@@actua99 My other response appears to have been devoured but, if you look up Phoebe Angeni's channel on this very website and go to the Bacchae vid, you'll find some bits! Not much tho; it was a student production at the Fringe Festival.
@@actua99 I mean, Euripides's Bacchae is a tragedy, a wonderful one at that, and I recommend it wholeheartedly (also, the myth is being told much more "accurately"). But if you want to have a hearty laugh, go for anything by Aristophanes (that may or may not have Dyonisus in it). It's hands-down my favourite comedian from the Greek-roman theatrical scene.
Tom, I don't know who specifically does your subtitles but, thank you. I struggle with sound sometimes and go through times when I can't bear to listen to videos (often in the morning), and it's so nice to know that I can still watch your stuff. Citation Needed and this series especially have given me a lot of silent laughs. Just wanted to let you know that the subtitles are appreciated (along with the videos themselves!)
They also have different accents. I'm usually okay with that but the subtitles do make it easier.
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Between the speed of the banter and the accents, i always have the subtitles on when watching tech diff, too.
Two suggestions for next series:
- Give someone a point who has the true story, but convinces Tom to pick someone else - this makes it easier for the people who are lying.
- Mystery biscuits for good stories, whether they are true or not. This encourages the liars to give an entertaining answer, and it gives an incentive to pick good articles.
Mystery biscuits for good stories are a good idea.
If they get points for Tom not picking their article they will be incentivised to lie, which isn't good.
I think Tom has a hard enough time as it is even when the truth-tellers have every reason to be as convincing as possible.
"bolt action love"
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART...
"Got a licence to kill, and believe I'm aiming straight for your heart (licence to kill)
Got a licence to kill everyone that tries to tear us apart (licence to kill)...
AND YOU'RE TO BLAME...
You give love, a bad name
No more Hellsing Ultimate Abridged for you.
I play my part and you play your game,
Darlin’ you give love a bad name!
I called bullshit on Chris' Henricus story when he said "Caesar-era" and "around the birth of Christ". Because those two things are about fifty years apart.
Depends on how long it took for him to get to Rome 🤔
@@Sarexicus Leaves after Julius sacked his village as a kid, finally gets his mob to Rome as an old man, hears about this newfangled Christ guy and decides to start a cult instead.
...Never mind that Christianity wouldn't start to catch on until a couple centuries after Caesar. There were plenty of other Messianic cults kicking around the Jewish community, Christianity is just the only one which caught on among the Gentiles.
Unfortunately, that would be 50s BC to 30s AD, at the very least.
there where way more Caesars then just one, for example during 14CE to 37CE the roman emperor was Tibirius Caesar.
@@BluePhoenix10 When people say Caesar, they mean Julius Caesar. Caesar became a surname and later title but on its own, means Julius Caesar.
Chris' tale of Henricus was ridden by so many little anachronisms and inaccuracies that I was a bit surprised that Tom considered the answer lmao
Primarily the name! "Henric" is a Germanic name that wouldn't take on that general form until about a thousand years after the time Chris set his Henricus in. It didn't even exist as a name at the time of Ancient Rome. It surprised me that Tom, with his background in linguistics (although perhaps little or no historical linguistics), didn't pick up on that. I would've ruled Chris out as soon as he'd said "Ancient Roman".
I got that it was wrong when Chris said it was in Caesar-era Rome and then said Henricus was born in early ADs - Caesar literally died in 44 BC.
@@soumajitsen1395 to be fair, when pressed to name an emperor "right around birth of Christ" I would probably default to Caesar as well, even though I know he was in power closer to 50BC (which is when the Asterix comics are set 😬). What are a couple decades at these time scales? And if you restrict "caesar-era" to his actual years of rule, that's only two years... Not really an era. Whereas he has had such an influence that you can easily count a couple decades after his death as part of his era.
I'm just making stuff up at this point 😂
@@sourcererseven3858Also, the Judeo-Claudian Dynasty all used the name Caesar (including Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus, emperor during the crucifixion) and their successors adopting Caesar as a title.
I love that Chris' beard has a slightly worse reaction time than he does.
Ahhahahahaha!!
Gary's opener is as out of the left field as always
But for once, it's (hopefully) true.
As soon as Gary finished his explanation of the Korean War wives, I would have picked him on the spot. What an interesting and particular idea that he pulled out of the article title.
You can tell when Gary is lying, his eyes flutter
He also goes for quite notable historical facts instead of going for something that might be a little more niche. I knew he was lying as soon as he talked about the Korean War and when he instantly linked horse racing with the grand national
Quick get someone who's good at poker and clean him out.
@@danielvaldez9946 Maybe he was thinking about the episode with Sgt Reckless
@@Trek001 For the horse idea or the Korean War one?
@@timothymclean Korean War - although Sgt Reckless was a racehorse that became a US Marine
I just noticed, that's a very interesting use of a 360 camera. Very nice.
This has been frankly a phenomenal replacement to Citation Needed and I really hope this show continues ever onward.
You need to descale your kettle is the most British thing I've ever heard.
I'm still not sure what's more fun, knowing the answer or guessing along with Tom.
That's the sign of a well constructed game!
Watch it twice through, have your cake and eat it too
I’m a tiny bit disappointed that Gary’s “muffled noise” didn’t actually get subtitled.
A subtitle of what he (at least sounded like) said, would’ve made for a neat little bit of hidden detail.
From the Park Bench episode on subtitles that kinda goes against their philosophy towards subtitling.
@@JohnSmith-dt1tw I mean, censored, of course. But now I have to go and locate that episode. Back in a moment.
Edit: Ah.
@@JohnSmith-dt1tw soob tee tlay?
@@MarceldeJong SOOBTITLAY!
sod off isn't such a bad swear, is it?
Starring Chris Joel, Matt Gray, Gary Brannan, Tom Scott and that god awful cushion...
Henricus tale needs to be a miniseries, The drunk Messiah or something like that
- I believe you. Am I right?
- Yes.
- Oh.
- Wow!
- Hmm.
“That’ll be out of date by the time it goes out” released on the day the election was proposed
And after all that, still topical today
Keep those fingers crossed Chris, it hasn't happened yet.
That aged well....
That last one was brilliant, they all sounded so plausible
Hopefuly time for another video where Tom strikes off the correct answer within two seconds
5 seconds into Chris' story, I already don't believe his story to be true, but damn I want more of it.
Gary: "A horse"
Tom: "Ok"
Chris: "A film"
Tom: "Ok"
Gary: "You twat"
I think the giveaway for Chris on the last one was him being more vague (saying Netherlands rather than specifying Scheveningen, leaving out details like the Lotte Eisner review) and acting uncertain (second guessing the Baron's rank, who had the American friend, and the full title of The Blue Angel). As exemplified by the previous round, Chris is ultra-detailed when he's bullshitting, so the sudden reversal was suspicious!
Love this format though, and hope you guys make a longer series for the next run! (I'm also thinking of suggesting this game to my friends as part of our next tabletop and video game get-together).
All the time chris talked, I couldn't really listen, I just watched his beard wiggle
His eyes are further up, thank you very much
I don't know what they were all so surprised for, Chris was clearly *telling a story*. It was believable but sounded nothing like an article.
What surprised me was Matt! He said 'Henrico' instead of 'Henricus' and I thought rather than being a third version of 'Henricopolis' he'd just messed it up.
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“Henrico” is modern Spanish/Italian rather than ancient Latin
@@ragnkja That makes perfect sense! Thanks!
Henricus coming up threw me for a loop, being a stone's throw from the county and having been to the park
"Boris will feed me to the lions"
Nope, still relevant.
When I actually randomly have heard about that film...
Just FYI, it's pronounced "Hen-r-EYE-co" County in modern pronunciation. It's also the county for the capital of Virginia, Richmond.
The Powhatan Native Americans (Pocohantas' father was Chief Powhatan) were located slightly to the West of there.
Do you have it in IPA?
@@Liggliluff Wikipedia gives me /hɛnˈraɪkoʊ/.
It's been over a YEAR since the last Park Bench - I know you're very busy and probably to busy to read this, but I'd love to just see one new park bench. It's been an age and I think we'd all love it ( even if it's just one)
"I haven't been keeping track of the scores and you shouldn't either. Byee!"
There's your outro!
No, just saying "We still don't have an outro" and cutting it is perfect
Weirdly, even after rewatching several times, I forget which one is correct for most of them, unless l knew some facts before watching. They are all so convincing.
Lying to Tom Scott looks like the most fun thing I can think of.
Having watched a few of these in a row recently, whenever Chris starts telling a flamboyant, narrative-style story, it's an almost dead giveaway that he's lying.
“Congratulations to ... you win a chicken shop owned by John Doe’s grandma. It’s Nan Doe’s Nando’s”
Chris should create a cult of personality around him and his story of Henricus.
I love how they've got better at telling their stories. Tom spends most of the time confused, even with Gary's line! I can't wait to watch the next run!
I know that in this format they are no prices, but a future price could involve: baklava, balaclava, black lava and balalaika.
Now I kinda want Chris to have his own videos where it's two truths and a lie (or vice versa), but about relatively unknown historical figures
There are two types of people, those that google the article during the episode and those that don't
And now to go into hibernation until the next series.
chrises Henricus story was the greatest improv story ive ever heard
3:03 Is that Asterix et Obelix a la Life of Brian?
Asterix et Obelix by Monty Python? Who's playing who?
Joaquin Phoenix. Everybody.
Henricus got delirium tremens, you see...
I mean, Brian was the polar opposite of Henricus, so not really.
I love this show. It has my favorite Gary Brannan in it!
Someone needs animate the Tale of Henricus the Drunkard
"Yes"
"Oh"
"Wow"
"Hmmm"
Just the way they said it just made me laugh
It is now 3:00am and I am midway through bingeing the entire series - absolutely loving it so far
Nice to know that I’m not alone!
0:45 I thought Chris was just going to go "No"
Endcard: "Two of these people are lying will return next year"
Me knowing it probably won't in 2020: 😔
3rd series is out, but we need 4th now
With the Grand National lore in this episode, I will point you to Moiffa. Moiffa was the winner of the 1904 Grand National, and was a huge, grumpy brute of a horse. And it had survived a shipwreck on the way to the UK (the horse was South African). I'm not joking nor jesting, the horse survived a shipwreck.
i can't wait for next year when this comes back and they've forgotten almost everything about lying. this was hilarious to follow, and def getting recommended to friends!
"I'm fully toilet trained..." Lying right out of the gate.
Sorry Chris, the Henricus one was just so historically unbelievable that I ruled you out from the start. But it's so funny to imagine that I'd give you a point for it!
It’s been years of various references to Derby, Sheffield, Mansfield, etc.
FINALLY tech diff mention the mighty Chesterfield, home of the bendy church and that dead bloke what did trains and that
Ross Lowton
Bendy church? What?
@@ragnkja the crooked spire an architectural blunder that thay never repaired and we are now famous for somehow how its neve fallen off i don't know look it up must have a wikipedia article
Alan Hassall some amazing folk stories about what is effectively a building mixup, my favourite being that the spire turned in amazement when a virgin was married in the church
The only thing that made me weary of the Henricus story is when he said “uneventful childhood” cause there is no way historians would actually know that much about someone that long ago
"Took to the bottle a little bit" Historians wouldn't downplay it like that. They'd tell the juiciest anecdotes about how drunk he was. Because he is long dead he can't sue them for liabel.
The best part of these is there are so many great stories that even rewatching them, half the time I don't remember which one was real.
Also, TIL the Prelinger Archive is a thing. Neat.
Oh wow, I just checked the German version of the "Engagement Period" article, and it's a really long description of this story about a womanizer who falls in love with the fiance of his best friend (who had saved him from being killed by angry husbands twice in the past) and when said best friend wrongly assumes that the womanizer is getting it on with his fiance - they had fallen in love on the train-ride to the location and were now discussing whether and how to break it to the husband-to-be that she had actually been forced to agree to marry him, when he entered the room and they suspiciously tried to hide her - the husband-to-be accidentally shoots his womanizing friend, who takes the gun and stages a suicide to save his friend from prosecution.
In contrast, Chris quoted the entirety of the english article, it really is that short. Should have learned German Chris, then you would've had a story worthy of Henrikus!
And I'm genuinely impressed how much story they managed to get into a silent comedy film! I barely scratched the surface here.
If you ever make TOTPAL shirts, "Tom, that's the game" would have to be the slogan.
Henrico County is pronounced with a long I, for the record
I'm from there and found their pronunciation attempt funny.
To be fair, Virginia place pronunciations are weird and I live there.
A long I made me think high pitched...
Literally drove me crazy that whole video
Henriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiico county
I live in Henrico county in Virginia and have never heard about that settlement. Weird place to learn about something so close to home. (It's prounced hen-rye-ko btw)
The second matt starting recounting accurate details of america was the moment we should have all realised he was telling the truth.
I have found the whole of the Technical Difficulties most entertaining. I love the way you guys all work together and the splendid made-up rubbish that makes it worth watching. That and the way you make each other laugh and that make us laugh too. A worthy companion to Citation Needed.
It’s so funny hearing them talk about Henrico and chesterfield being a native of chesterfield.
I’m fully toilet trained 😃
What?! You too? It's spreading!
As someone who lives there, it’s pronounced Hen-RYE-co
I still think the liar should get a point if they convince him, because that’s a much better performance than the non-liar.
And the non-liar should lose a point when they fail to convince Tom to add more dramatic score changes.
The liar does get a point. That's how the game works. If Tom picks a fake article, the liar gets a point. If Tom picks the real article, both Tom and the other person get a point.
*Everyone about Chris' tale but I'm still on about Gary's impressive South Korean lovers manual*
a year and a half after this aired and "boris is gonna feed me to the lions" is still very much topical 😔
I present: Yorkshire Concentrate
A brilliant camp for northern students who suffer from ADD
"I haven't been keeping track of the scores and you shouldn't've either." Tom, what else am I supposed to do during shelter in place while procrastinating on my handknit socks?
"it's not in the rules"
"There is nothing in the rules that says a dog can't play basketball!"
One thing that would be a good add to the show: Rather than have the person Tom guesses to be telling the truth simply say "yes" or "no", have two buttons on the table (a la mystery biscuits button) that the person smashes upon Tom making his guess (one button for right one for wrong) and have each play a different appropriate sound.
What do you think the budget for this show is?
@@magnuspeacock5857 What do you think the cost would be? They already have the button they used for mystery biscuits. At most the only cost would be to get a second button. It doesn't even have to function, they can add the sound in post. It can just be a prop.
"Boris is going to feed me to the lions" "that'll be out of date by the time that goes out" yeah... about that...
Any day there's a new TechDiff upload is a good day, especially with an episode this good.
Its been 2 years nad im JUST now seeing the pillow on the couch behind chris.
Chris seems so legitimately excited ti talk about Henricus the drunkard
I'd be too, honestly!
I only just noticed that the camera setup is a single 360-degree camera. You're doing lovely work with it.
Another great episode. But what I want to know...... is who's face is on the pillow sitting on the sofa across the room behind Chris and Tom? Just happened to notice it. No idea if it's always been there but now that I've seen it I simply can't UNsee it.
Obviously Chris'
Can we please appreciate that Gary went full northern at 18:50
They should put this on Spotify as a podcast. Don't change the format but so people can listen with there phone off