The Railway to the Racecourse - Nottinghams Lost Railways Uncovered
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The Railway to the Racecourse - Nottinghams Lost Railways Uncovered
Join me as uncover another of Nottinghams Lost Railways. This time i visit the outskirts of the City Centre to follow a former Great Northern Railway Route towards one of Nottinghams most famous locations, The Nottingham Racecourse.
Starting our journey with some Drone footage of the former GNR Warehouse, opening in 1857 and closing in the 1960s.
We then head off along the former route past Sneinton and the start of the Nottingham Suburban Railway before eventually arriving at the former Nottingham Racecourse Station.
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I can see my house from up here (drone footage). We used to 'play' on the old railway bridges in the 1980s and even went inside the warehouse when it had a roof. There was a railway bridge where Marham close is nowdays and yes, that railway signal ladder in your video, we climbed up that...naturally! Great video, I think I walked past you once on what is now the greenway. It's sad to see all the old railways disappear, but these greenways are an improvment I think, this particular greenway helps me personally with mental health and well-being. I highly recommend it to my fellow Sneintonions. Needs a little TLC at the moment...discarded suitcase,bedding, tents and overgrown. This is a very long comment...you did say you wanted likes and comments, right? ❤&✌
(My profile pic is not what I actually look like, otherwise you would have definitely remembered walking past me 😁
I’m Nottingham born and bred. Another bit of long lost history that is worth knowing, thank you. Shame you couldn’t access the old tunnel across the road from the abandoned warehouse, I’m Also told that caves are visible on the adjacent corner.
As a tanker driver i used to load out of total at colwick
Spent alot of time driving around nottingham and derbyshire, obviously with my eyes shut to all this haha
Its great to see " over the fence" from the roads. And also a reminder what a massive industrial and mining area this once was...
Amazing filming. Before and after pictures good. Not only do you have an eye for filming Ant you have an ear for music. All the music you played complements your filming. The sunrise and colours are wow factor. Superb. Brilliant. Well Done. Thank you.
I sometimes think I spend too long choosing the music that sits well with what is happening but it really does make all the difference. Thanks very much Shirley
Amazing how much of the "old days" is still hidden in plain sight - only the grafitti artists know where. Gone back to your old train spotting days there for a minute Ant?!!!!! Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
That ballast train I couldn't have timed that any better 😀
Cheers Bob
The steel bridge in the photo at the beginning was a single track leading to / from two sidings south of Sneinton Hermitage.
The 'low level' crossing was immediately to the south of this and carried six tracks from London Road station. Despite the name it was carried on a steel bridge over Meadow Lane.
To the north were two more bridges. A twin track took the high level from Victoria Station which merged with the low level just before Trent Lane. This has now been developed for housing as Ivatt Drive. Immediately to the north of this a four track bridge took traffic from the L&NWR goods depot on Manvers Street. This depot has been redeveloped for housing as Newark Crescent.
Its lower part can still be seen witnessed by its blue bricks as can the remains of the bridge on Sneinton Hermitage.
Brilliant Ant. Thank you for another good history lesson. 🙂
Love these early morning vids,adds atmosphere to the walk,I think the pictures from the past of the same viewpoints really bring the situation to life and I like to see the comparisons of now and when they were used for their original intention.
It's such a lovely time of day if the sky is clear it just makes everything so much different. Plus less people around 😉
Thank you so much for watching
I really enjoyed this one it made for very relaxing viewing.
I go past those old warehouses as my train pulls into Nottingham station and it's always a nice reminder that I'm home! Shame they're standing derelict; would be lovely to see them turned into a museum or something of that nature.
Another great video with knowledgeable commentary, many thanks for posting
Glad you enjoyed it Roger
Thank you for the nice video and journey. A real roll back in time. Cheers Ant!
Music matches the scenery
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you so much 🙂🙂
My first time on this channel. Excellent. Exactly how a Lost Railway video (or perhaps any history video) should be. A map. A plan. Then straight on the ground. The music also fitted well. Responsible drone and vehicle recording rules noted. Absolutely superb.
Absolutely fascinating
As always Ant very interesting and enjoyable. Many thanks for sharing.
Woah! Only a few seconds in and again, I've got to commend this channel on the continued production quality and music scores. You've managed to capture my two most-est (is that even a word?) passions - music and railway history. Thanks for this prelude, all your efforts, research, and videos, including the STUNNING photography captures throughout the year. Happy New Year to you and all your watchers; looking forward to more of the same in 2022! Now it's back to this presentation...
really loved this one ant as nearly 30 years ago used to deliver to a lot of coops in nottingham
My dad used to drive for co op. Based at Blenheim I think it was then Toton
@@TrekkingExploration i never went to blenheim.i used to get fresh meat from long eaton and deliver to coop butchers after doing my rounds of cooked meats and yoghurts from ossett
Excellent video 👍😍😎!!!!!!
Really enjoyed that lots to see thanks for sharing take care xx
Very wonderful video. This video reminds me of Nottingham in the earlier day .
Thank you for watching I'm pleased you enjoyed it
great vid chap love the music i do enjoy vids like this about old railways hope you had a great xmas and new year . keep them coming
That was bloody brilliant thanks Ant
Those last few minutes, those green equipment boxes behind you were a very close match for southern railway malachite green
Ah yes the electrical boxes. Thank you for watching
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Thanks very much Michael 😀
Fascinating history, thank you for taking us with you.
Thanks Tom, I'm pleased you enjoyed it 🙂
Brilliant stuff 🙂 So much history erased, however so many clues left behind for you to show us 👍🏻
Thanks so much for watching Richard. It's sad indeed
Thanks for walking this bit Ant, I vaguely remember the old suburban line & when the loop road was being built & often wondered where all the lines went - and now I know! Good stuff.
If you went a little further down the road towards gedling and colwick park there is a remains of a brick wall for the racecourse sidings on the right hand side as you walk down heading towards Colwick, and not to mention great video especially early dors of a wintery day, I live in colwick all my life, and still learnding new bits about the area i live in, keep up the awesome vids of yesteryear documenting what was once a fascinating time to be around, and such a shame the GWR Warehouse is derelict now and notingh can be done to it not even pulled down :'( or repaired due to its listing :)
You needed to walk along the Loop Road. A road bridge used to go over the old Railway until Colwick loop Road was built.
That'll be in the second part 🙂 Thanks for watching 🙂
Loved it,very interesting 🧐
Great explore amazing what you find when you go looking shame nothing left of the station at the end
Looks so beautiful oops watched twice
A very nice early morning explore, I bet you didn't think you were going to find all that infrastructure on the way and I love that they have kept some of the abutments which shows the history of the place too. I think you were ok in the park and ride with your camera, it didn't seem too busy!!!!!
Great video Ant I’ve been waiting for you to do this one as I’ve been past most of it. If you went on to the main colwick rd there is part of a platform or it looks like part of a platform on the racecourse side of the rd.Are you going to do the suburban one next to Sherwood and Arnold?. Keep up the good work 👏🤣
Another great film. Echoing what others have said about the production and morning light.
I love that you cover a short section of line in great detail.
More local-ish lines I don't know much about.
Thanks for showing the maps: very useful.
I didn't know about that GN warehouse, amazed it's still standing, it can't be listed?
The lines around Heanor and Ripley areas are quite complex: plenty to explain/explore around there.
Wow what a lovely video. I’ve commuted along Daleside road for the last 20 years and didn’t realise there was so much between there and Sneinton. I’ve even cycled along that path a couple of times, I must have had my eyes shut since there is so much left of the 3 lines. Mind you that was before they reinstated the bridge over the Newark line. Keep up the good work of these lovely videos, they are very well put together with so much thought.
I love your videos Ant, and feel very sad after watching them as well! I came along in the sixties, just too late to see all these lines in action. I have walked many of the routes you have. This area was very complex and confusing if you can't work out what went where!
I think the complexity of this area is the reason I kept putting this one off 😂
Thank you so much for watching I'm pleased you are enjoying them
Fantastic video as always mate, it's a shame that there isn't more people across the country doing the same level as you to remember our forgotten railways, if there was the world would be a much better place, but I'm glad your doing it so well as always 😊
Great explore Ant, the goods shed is magnificent under drone footage, last time I visited was 1989, and deterioration has been stark. Superb
Another interesting video,Ant, lovely Autumn colour still on the trees,lovely morning for your explore,xx
Best time of the day on a clear morning
Ant, does the BBC ever get jealous of your work??? So many bricks, think of all the labor to make them all-----a lot of clay and a lot of heat. Thanks for your time and effort you put into your videos......
Ha ha thanks Mike. Very kind comment. Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for your support this past year 🙂
I was thinking the same...The BBC wouldn't know where to start these days...I don't pay the licence fee either. They can rot...🤔😳🙄🇬🇧
Great to have a video to watch as it rains heavily outside!
I thought at first that you had a neck brace on but it is probably the top of your jacket!
Best wishes for 2022 and many more great videos 👍
I'll have to have a look at what I was wearing 😂
Cheers for all of your support this past year Phil 🙂
Hello Ant, I love your videos, find them so informative and interesting and end up doing the walks myself. Will certainly be doing this one myself soon. Keep up the good work mate.
I love these explores of yours, great photography of the autumn colours as well. Still wondering when you're going to get back to Derby and Friargate station.
You know what you are right I need to go back there. I'll try to go in the early part of next year
Had a wander around the Gn warehouse around 2008 there was a monumental amount of scaffolding holding the insides up. Also needles everywhere so watch your footing!
At 03:52 we often considered that that old warehouse looking building was railway connected. We could see the building through several of the windows in our messroom at the old Jarvis tamper depot situated between the EMR depot and the Council incinerator.
It's not something I fancy stepping inside of even if given the opportunity
The sign for the racecourse station is still there very close to the railway crossing that exists today
Driving along the Colwick Loop Road from colwick to Nottingham just before the racecourse island setback from the road are some blue bricks maybe this is the platform from the racecourse station. They are in between the road and the Colwick Park and ride.
My previous comment contained an error. The low level crossing from London Road was to the north of this bridge, not the south. It seems this single track linked London Road with the suburban railway which crossed over both the GNR and MR lines east of Trent Lane to head north towards Sherwood.
British Rail did a lot of dumb things in the 1960s, one of them was closing this line instead of the parallel Midland line with its 3 level crossings, one of which remains at Colwick. The station at London Road was used as a parcels concentration depot until the 1980s and putting the junction at Netherfield in the opposite direction would have been all that was needed. Such was their dislike of anything associated with the LNER in Nottingham! Incidentally the junction with the Nottingham Suburban Line was severed in an air raid in 1941.
Andrea BR did do some strange things but they were always short of cash. I suppose that they kept to the Midland route because of it's different level to the Gt Northern and if you look where they crossed, the lines did so at an acute angle so it would have been a very expensive job to adjust the levels and re-align the track. BR rarely had money to invest to save money in the long term. Good point about the expensive crossings that remained initially. I well remember the traffic delays when the gates closed before the Colwick relief road was opened.
@@kenstevens5065 true and I do remember in the 1970s there was a proposal to close both the Lincoln and Grantham lines, the name "Serpel" rings a bell.
Another great explore mate, very interesting 👍
Thanks very much 😀😀
You should have gone along Daleside Road towards Colwick, not the P&R. You would have been on the trackbed then and seen the remains of the platform.
Up until 20 years ago, I worked near Trent Lane and this was my daily walk to work from Nottingham Station. Trent Lane had a pedestrian crossing at that point, the footbridge you used wasn't there.
Is there much of a footpath replacing the line that crossed lady bay bridge? Amazing how much of that area of Nottingham was covered with rail lines.
They ought to extend the tram route to the racecourse along that route, it was a bloody long walk every day!
daleside road by the race corse is the track bed and if ya had gone down daleside road the platform face is still there on the right heading out of town
Hi Ant, thanks for another great video. I've been on the Skegness train many many times passing those bridge abutments, wondering about their significance, so I appreciate you providing the layout of the tracks. You may already be aware of this, but the footbridge across the railways was built on other bridge abutments. I believe they were for a parallel track. The abutments are too solid to be built for just the footbridge. Would be interested in what you think. One of them is free standing.
great video
Thanks very much 🙂
This may be common knowledge but, just in case...
The computer game, Train Simulator, has a DLC which covers much of the Nottingham network as it was in the 1950s/60s. At the following URL is a RUclips video from Matt Peddlesden (employee st Train Simulator company, Dovetail) driving the route out of Nottingham to the Racecourse. Much of Ant's walk in this video can be seen in the train sim video. As I'm not from Nott'm I have no idea how accurate it is but you can certainly see bridges etc that Ant filmed. Tain Sim video: ruclips.net/video/DlNi_h4Zwyk/видео.html
Cool vid yet again. I like prickly lol
Ha ha ha you'll have to give it a try
One of the platforms is still there and can be seen from colwickj loop road. Head towards colwick on the loop road and to the left is the old road which rises and used to go over the loop road ( railway lines ) at a right angle. On right hand side about 150ft you will see the platform in the undergrowth.
I shall have to return on an early morning when the road is quiet. Thank you for watching 🙂
I believe the old platform you refer to is where the racehorses were unloaded and not the passenger station which was where the park and ride is now situated.
Another fascinating video ,. Sadly does not show the amazing structures and track layout to the full as was quite impressive . Great that you get out there and show what is still remaining . Scary how time has obliterated something that at the time looked like it would be there for ever .
I'd have loved to have seen all of this if only for a few years before closure. How useful they would have been today
Think when i started on the railway 2005 you could just make out the platform edge travelling in the Nottingham direction, it's probably still there burried in the undergrowth .
Ant the whole racecourse station platform still exists , it’s crazy visible from the ring road if you had looked on the mound at the end you would have stood on it I’ll get a photo and tweet it to you next time I go past
Thanks very much. I'll return in the new year and take a look 🙂
@@TrekkingExploration it’s bonkers it’s still there , they build the bee road litrally right up to it but must have made the decision to keep it , I think you were maybe 100 meters short of it
At 06:38 you can see the incinerator chimney roughly in the middle-top of the view, the old warehouse will be behind and to the right of the camera. The old Jarvis depot is between the EMR depot & sidings and the chimney. You can see a Colas Rail Cl.56 & Cl.37 in the yard.
That's great that you spotted what is in the yard I'll have to have a better look. Thank you for watching
Do not know when this was filmed. but the loco parked next to the yellow post could be a class 70. As according to TOPS history loco number 70804 has been stabled at Eastcroft since the 19 December. ( The info only goes back to that date.)
@@darrylrichardson7940 I've checked it was 23rd of November
@@darrylrichardson7940 I had seen a Cl.70 (in someone else's photo) but I have no detail and, with respect to the owner, it's not for me to discuss.
Hiya @ 3:59 - strange how there are tree growing inside the old building!!! There seems to be a lot of dis-used Railway Lines in Nottingham!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
It's like a mini forest inside there. Sadly Nottingham has a lot 😔
@@TrekkingExploration Yep - True 🙁🚂🚂🚂
Blame Dr Beeching! Victoria Station should never have been closed, but British Rail was hell-bent on closing the Great Central Main Line. Nottingham probably has the worst rail communications in the country for a city of its size. Ironically, in the late nineteenth century, the City Council were concerned that Nottingham lacked a centrally sited railway station, and the opening of Victoria in 1900 was hailed as a great occasion. That killed off the Nottingham Suburban Railway.
Hi Ant, another fascinating video and great autumn colours! Were you near the place where the Suburban line was severed by a German bomb during WW2? The line was never repaired and closed in about 1951.
I shall have to look into that. It's a line I need to try to follow. Looks very complicated though
@@TrekkingExploration Have a look for David Birch's three volume history of the NSR, excellent coverage from inception to closure. He's also bringing out a Volume 4 in Word format.
The Suburban Railway closed in 1931, but remained open for freight for a further twenty years. The opening of Victoria Station virtually killed the railway, as trains went to London Road Low Level Station, which was inconveniently sited. Nottingham has suffered more from rail closures than any other city in this country.
If you would’ve carried on down the main road at the racecourse, you’ve would’ve seen a piece of the railway next to the road and also be able to pin point quite clearly where the old road bridge would’ve gone over the railway (which is now the main road) some part of the road is still there on the racecourse side, on the maps it looks like a path leading away from the racecourse down to awards the marina but if you actually walk it you’ll realise it’s the original road and road markings and cat eyes still exist there, just buried under moss and mud !
I shall have to return and take a look. Thank you for watching 🙂
I thought there was a platform wall running along the side of the new road which was built on the old track bed by the racetrack.
[f you go on the loop road, on the racecourse side you can still see the edge of the platform
Thanks for this, very informative, are you aware that along the route a bit further up on the right is a platform, I was under the impression that this was a platform for the goods trains, I have seen this and walked passed this, you can see the outer brickwork of the platform from Colwick Loop Road
Thanks Simon. I shall have to return and take a look in the new year 🙂
lm sure that the station platform can be seen at the side of Colwick Road
Thanks for the tour a pleasure to watch. Any chance of lingering the camera on some of the graffiti. I have seen some very good examples in your other episodes
I may return in the new year to do the Suburban Route so I'll start where the old bridge abutments are with the graffiti
The edge of the racecourse station could be seen from the A612 road until. they widen the road for the bus lane
Thanks Clive. Thank you for watching
Hi there could you come visit the Nottingham Model Railway Society on Tuesday 28th Feb from 19:00 onwards yours Mr Owen Rhodes , we are in the old scout hut at the top end of the Wells Road, Mapperley,
Good morning that sounds interesting I can check the diary and try
@@TrekkingExploration thanks for getting back to me yours owen rhodes
@@owenrhodes3936 is it an event of some kind?
@@TrekkingExploration ,On the Tues 28 I will be at the club as for the the next 2 Tues i'm NOT there , and we are building a large layout based from the" race course to the city ," Also we will be having a small Exibition along with the Gedling Borough Council 'The Loco Remebered' Looking back at Colwick yard and Loco Sheds , @ The Crossing Social Club Carlton on Sat 4 March 10:30 till 3:30 .Sorry Iv'e missed your name with thanks Owen Rhodes. I want to suprise the club on this night ,
If you want on the road you wood off seen more
it makes me very sad that the labour party closed all these lines and people still vote for them
The Beeching report was under a Conservative government. The Minister of transport, was Earnest Marples, who owned a road haulage company. That report killed off those lines.
@@pintofkimberley oh dear. it was set up by the torys. when the report was complete labour were in power. they shut the lines and miles more not in the report. They then gave beeching an award. please learn facts b4 you come back, i have other thing s to do.
@@bobtudbury8505 it was already underway and in progress by the time Wilson became primeminister.
The damage had already been done. But then you know that, just deflecting blame.
I suggest you look up cause and effect and costs required for re-implimentation. Not hard to do.
@@pintofkimberley don't talk rubbish, this is all labour, just to let you know labour also closed hundreds of pits in the 60's too. Their track record is terrible yet they keep getting funds!!
@@bobtudbury8505 OK, you cut the railhead and sell off the land whilst the trains are still on them, but only in parts (GCR being one). You set the system to fail.
It makes it irreversible but you're not quite bright enough to see when snow is being sold to Eskimos.
As for the pits, at least new pits were being sunk in the 60's. They weren't in the mass closure in the 90's.
I'll leave you to gaslight others and not be able to use any cognitive, critical examination. Enjoy your ignorance.