Hi I want to install a new radiator upstairs in my hallway and there is no existing pipe work there. Can this be done and if so how do I go about doing it? Thanks
My new radiator has come without the bleed valve and stop end fitted, how to i instal them, is it just PTFE and screw in like a valve? Thanks great videos
That was so helpful! I just wanted to see what the job involved. Thank you. Unfortunately, I can't imagine my local authority contracted engineers will do such a thoughtful and professional job but one tries to live in hope.
Hi non of your rad videos shows solution for my prob. New house given to us with radiator on the concrete floor. Huge long one not in centre and ugly. Could I move it to the next wall to it this one replaced with a vertical one .instead. Thank You T. From Ireland.
How much does it cost to move a radiator from one location to another? Is it necessary to buy a new radiator or we can reuse the old one.. thanks for response in advance.
Great video! So informative. Something I thought I might need to get a chap in to do, I'm now sure I can do myself. Just need to brush up on how to bleed the system. Cheers.
Hi James Going to do more or less the same thing in the next week or so. On looking for supplies, I noticed that they give a W-rating on their Hep20 plastic pipes. Which W-rating would you recommend for this project?
Zubair Bhat as far as I'm aware you don't use inserts for copper. Copper pipes just slot in to push fit as they are. Plastic pipes need an insert to stop the ends being crushed in
Question for you James, how do you do that in a bathroom with a concrete floor, and swapping a radiator with a towel rail ? I think it's going to be a bitch to do 😉
so i got a plumber to do this 2 days ago using that flexi pipe under floorboards. he drained system. filled it back up... now that new rad will not get hot. just luke coldish warm.
He said at the start he has other videos that cover draining down the system and will not show it here. See PlumberParts tutorial videos on his main RUclips channel.
We need to do this in our living room as the installers put our radiator on the wall opposite the window. The problem we have though, is that the floor is solid. There are no floorboards to speak of.
Definitely not a joiner. “Look this has been up before. I’ll just split the full length of the timber.” “Really important to disregard any structural integrity of the joists and drill through anywhere you fancy.”
Don’t think you should be drilling so close to the bearing end of the joist, more work but better practice to bring the pipe work towards the old pipes parallel to a joist and then drill through joists towards the cent re of the span in the “safe area”. Maybe a video on how to lift floorboard gently to mitigate “mullering” them, and please don’t throw rubbish into the void.
It would be great if you could do some new builds. I don't have wooden floorboards so it trunking or concealing artistically for me.. Trunking is not allowed in my property, it's hideous.
mate you have taken off the floor first thing I would do is to remove that external (crucial here) power socket and move it else where then install that radiator with a normal length pipe copper not the ugly one as you have done there... come on mate.
you missed out how exactly to do the most important things though. how do you disconnec the radiator without getting water everywhere? how exactly do you refill the system? i'm probably going to be moving a radiator after taking away a pointless stud wall that was built the entire length of a wall just to hide a waste pipe at one end. so i only need to move it about 10 inches back, but i've no idea how to shut off the water, how to refill it...
Joists not "rafters" Double socket not "plug" Please don't chuck waste floorboard tongues under floorboards. I hate it when tradesmen do this in my house. Cheers
Most of your videos were good but this was not. 90% was superfluous talking and you time-lapsed the important bit - how to connect up the new pipes to old. That was really annoying.
This video is terrible. Starting from cutting floorboards. You could mention to cut them very carefully not going deeper with blade than thickness of the floorboards. There might be pipes running right underneath the floorboard where you cutting. Nobody want’s to flood the place. Drilling straight through the floorboard is another risk of hitting either pipes or electrical cables. You haven’t shown how to hang radiator and how to measure where brackets should be. I know it’s easy for you but whoever is watching this video is not having a clue how those things work and it might be the case that it’s holding drill for the first time anyway. Is socket underneath radiator ok with regs?
@@Richard-ij8ge With the client specifically telling you they were going to have the floor boards as the flooring, you should have ideally lifted them properly, and re laid them properly so there would have been no trace any work had been carried out at all. (Other than the radiator being moved obviously) This is the mark of a true professional and craftsman. The use of cutting tools is not required and simply laziness, do the job right to get the end results right. Understandable this takes more time but if customer not happy with extra cost for said time to do it right you could have at least 1) taken more care cutting to not cut into boards that would not need to be removed, 2) not cut 2 boards in a line, think of a running joint in brick work, they should always be staggered. Cut more up or down the board to give it a staggered effect and not draw as much attention to a big cut 3) The tool you used to lift the boards, and your technique resulted in boards being split. That was destructive and invasive to save time / effort. You went in at the corners and split the corners also. Pry tools that don't evenly distribute the force will just split pine. It's a soft wood not a hard wood you cannot simply handle it like that and expect it to be fine. What you done leaves the dreaded council workman style access panel by radiators, and what makes it worse is their T&G was in quite good nick and will now require repairs (replaced floorboards) if they are having it finished by sanding / stain as this will be very noticeable. You cannot reliably fill a gap in flooring due to movement, so the only fix for what you have done is board replacement. Think if you wanted to have your wooden floors finished, then the plumber comes in to move your radiator and leaves a big gash in the floor, I bet you wouldn't be too happy deciding if you wanted a big cut in the floor, or to pay for a joiner to come out and replace those split boards before getting the floor done
Thank you for sharing, flexible pipe makes job alot easier and faster. No soldiering needed.
Smashing cool Job, very well presented, top guy , Radiator Master Guru
would be really good if you could put up a list of all the tools needed for this job and a link to where to buy the materials
Hi. When you're laying pipe along joists do you clip them?
Hi
I want to install a new radiator upstairs in my hallway and there is no existing pipe work there. Can this be done and if so how do I go about doing it? Thanks
My new radiator has come without the bleed valve and stop end fitted, how to i instal them, is it just PTFE and screw in like a valve? Thanks great videos
This video was Awesome!!💪🔥🔥🔥🔥
How much does it cost usually to do this sort of move of the radiator?
Better to turn the floorboards with nails in ,nail side down just in case you n
Kneel or stand on them. Just advice. I like what you do. Thanks.
That was so helpful! I just wanted to see what the job involved. Thank you. Unfortunately, I can't imagine my local authority contracted engineers will do such a thoughtful and professional job but one tries to live in hope.
Hi non of your rad videos shows solution for my prob. New house given to us with radiator on the concrete floor. Huge long one not in centre and ugly. Could I move it to the next wall to it this one replaced with a vertical one .instead. Thank You T. From Ireland.
What's the flexi doing on the old rad pipe/TRV?
How much does it cost to move a radiator from one location to another? Is it necessary to buy a new radiator or we can reuse the old one.. thanks for response in advance.
Great video! So informative. Something I thought I might need to get a chap in to do, I'm now sure I can do myself. Just need to brush up on how to bleed the system. Cheers.
Can you show to do that with an old cast iron radiator that uses steam? How about one that uses hot water? Thank you!
Hi how would you move pipes that comes out of the wall. I hate new builds!
How much dose it cost in the U.K. to move a heater to another area of a living room? Thanks
Hi James
Going to do more or less the same thing in the next week or so. On looking for supplies, I noticed that they give a W-rating on their Hep20 plastic pipes. Which W-rating would you recommend for this project?
Enjoyed that (enthusiastic 👌).
I'll tackle my bathroom towel Rad' on the strength of it.
🍻 cheers.
Great video . But how do you go about a cement floor ?
Run the pipes around the wall just above the skirting boards and use copper piping
Do you have a similar video where the floor is concrete? Thanks
Not moving that socket?
what's with the flexi pipe?
Whats the typical cost of doing something like this?
What is the metal insert you used before join the copper push fit to the old copper pipes
Zubair Bhat as far as I'm aware you don't use inserts for copper. Copper pipes just slot in to push fit as they are. Plastic pipes need an insert to stop the ends being crushed in
You ripped the floorboards off, how did you put them back on with no issues
Can anyone help me? How do you stop the flow of water coming from the valve pipes when you cut them
Thanks bud
You saved my fortune 👍
Good video. What is the tool that you use to cut the floorboards please?
+Sandy Sandaver - Multi tool - You can pick them up from most places - very handy tool.
Putting this radiator in the middle of the window was the most logical solution! since two beds are on either side
where did you get the pipe and push fit connectors from?
From poundland
Screwfix (plumbfix)
how much did this job cost in total?
My knees hurt just watching this.
All electricians have bad knees
how did you stop water coming out the trimmed copper pipes? surely they would have water in them? I'm looking to do the same hence the question
Drain down 1st he mentions he drains system in other videos and will not cover it here. PlumberParts has loads of plumbing tutorials he does.
Very informative. Thank you! 👍🏿
Question for you James, how do you do that in a bathroom with a concrete floor, and swapping a radiator with a towel rail ? I think it's going to be a bitch to do 😉
This job looks hard! ...i guess have to take carpet/laminate flooring & also floorboards out 🙁
so i got a plumber to do this 2 days ago using that flexi pipe under floorboards.
he drained system. filled it back up... now that new rad will not get hot. just luke coldish warm.
Tried bleeding the rad?
This was really really helpful. Thanks
You absolutely wrecked that floorboard, then say these people still want to see this stuff!!
Whats the name of the tool he uses to saw through floorboards?
It's a multi tool
www.toolstation.com/search?searchstr=subdept_id%3A3222&sdname=Multi+Tools&depid=40&depname=Power+Tools&subid=3222&lgvis=y
Thanks for the tips - but this is how floorboards end up so knackered!
What's the name of this flexible tubing?
Do you have to drain the system cos you never mentioned it????
He said at the start he has other videos that cover draining down the system and will not show it here. See PlumberParts tutorial videos on his main RUclips channel.
great job keep it up
So I've probably got no chance of moving a radiator to a different room then?
what are those plastic pipes called?
should have got a leccy in to remove the socket, if they wanted the radiator there so badly. Looks stupid and a hazard if the radiator leaks.
Hard pass on the plastic push fit stuff. Rented a place with it and it was leak after leak. Soldering copper pipes together really isn’t that hard.
We need to do this in our living room as the installers put our radiator on the wall opposite the window. The problem we have though, is that the floor is solid. There are no floorboards to speak of.
better to have the radiator away from window as that's the part of the room where the heat escapes from more than anywhere else
Great job thanks a lot 👍🏻
Definitely not a joiner. “Look this has been up before. I’ll just split the full length of the timber.” “Really important to disregard any structural integrity of the joists and drill through anywhere you fancy.”
Damien Byrne he drilled pretty much halfway down the hoist, i.e the neutral axis, i.e. no stresses. Structural integrity is fine
Great job! Thanks for the video.
lol dump all the rubbish under the floor boards haha typical
Don’t think you should be drilling so close to the bearing end of the joist, more work but better practice to bring the pipe work towards the old pipes parallel to a joist and then drill through joists towards the cent re of the span in the “safe area”. Maybe a video on how to lift floorboard gently to mitigate “mullering” them, and please don’t throw rubbish into the void.
imagine what ur knees are gonna be like in 20 years time
Show the work involved in moving a rad on a one pipe system.
Top man 👍🏼
It would be great if you could do some new builds. I don't have wooden floorboards so it trunking or concealing artistically for me.. Trunking is not allowed in my property, it's hideous.
mate you have taken off the floor first thing I would do is to remove that external (crucial here) power socket and move it else where then install that radiator with a normal length pipe copper not the ugly one as you have done there... come on mate.
Customer wanted it leaving.
Easy when you have floorboards. My house is concrete floors upstairs!
Hi good job ,if you screw the floor boards down next guy can unscrew easy peasy,G.
Plumberparts lad
That floorboard was screaming lol
Why did you throw the bits of old wood under the floor and it's not good practice to work around a floorboard with nails sticking up out of them.
you missed out how exactly to do the most important things though. how do you disconnec the radiator without getting water everywhere? how exactly do you refill the system?
i'm probably going to be moving a radiator after taking away a pointless stud wall that was built the entire length of a wall just to hide a waste pipe at one end. so i only need to move it about 10 inches back, but i've no idea how to shut off the water, how to refill it...
Hold tight!
Blind me you need one whole length of copper pipe just for the tails!
Called joist Rafters lol
No draining required, no spills, bleeding, hmm, that was easy.
Hold Tight!
Sometimes if you're on your own you'll need help doing this bit! Did he really say that? ;o)
Rafters? very high bedroom then lol
Joists not "rafters"
Double socket not "plug"
Please don't chuck waste floorboard tongues under floorboards. I hate it when tradesmen do this in my house. Cheers
Cant believe you dumped the rubbish under the board's, fire hazard!
Why didn't he used the white pipe at the radiator, the copper bits don't look nice.
I take it you turn off the water at the start
Scared the hell out of me on my headphone
no idea why they want to keep these boards visible. they're very cheap, low quality floorboards.
Most of your videos were good but this was not. 90% was superfluous talking and you time-lapsed the important bit - how to connect up the new pipes to old. That was really annoying.
This video is terrible. Starting from cutting floorboards. You could mention to cut them very carefully not going deeper with blade than thickness of the floorboards. There might be pipes running right underneath the floorboard where you cutting. Nobody want’s to flood the place. Drilling straight through the floorboard is another risk of hitting either pipes or electrical cables. You haven’t shown how to hang radiator and how to measure where brackets should be. I know it’s easy for you but whoever is watching this video is not having a clue how those things work and it might be the case that it’s holding drill for the first time anyway. Is socket underneath radiator ok with regs?
You butchered those floorboards mate I would have kicked you out my house if I seen that going on
How would you have done it?
@@Richard-ij8ge With the client specifically telling you they were going to have the floor boards as the flooring, you should have ideally lifted them properly, and re laid them properly so there would have been no trace any work had been carried out at all. (Other than the radiator being moved obviously) This is the mark of a true professional and craftsman. The use of cutting tools is not required and simply laziness, do the job right to get the end results right. Understandable this takes more time but if customer not happy with extra cost for said time to do it right you could have at least 1) taken more care cutting to not cut into boards that would not need to be removed, 2) not cut 2 boards in a line, think of a running joint in brick work, they should always be staggered. Cut more up or down the board to give it a staggered effect and not draw as much attention to a big cut 3) The tool you used to lift the boards, and your technique resulted in boards being split. That was destructive and invasive to save time / effort. You went in at the corners and split the corners also. Pry tools that don't evenly distribute the force will just split pine. It's a soft wood not a hard wood you cannot simply handle it like that and expect it to be fine. What you done leaves the dreaded council workman style access panel by radiators, and what makes it worse is their T&G was in quite good nick and will now require repairs (replaced floorboards) if they are having it finished by sanding / stain as this will be very noticeable. You cannot reliably fill a gap in flooring due to movement, so the only fix for what you have done is board replacement.
Think if you wanted to have your wooden floors finished, then the plumber comes in to move your radiator and leaves a big gash in the floor, I bet you wouldn't be too happy deciding if you wanted a big cut in the floor, or to pay for a joiner to come out and replace those split boards before getting the floor done
@@karlmanderson8680 you make some great points, this is obviously an old video but maybe he had an agreement to do it this way with the customer.
All the rubbish straight back under the floor . Just like a real pro .
Far too quick and NOT ENOUGH wording of what it IS you are Actually DOING !