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10 8 Lab Ep30 Staccato C2 Throwdown
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2020
- Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance reviews the Staccato C2 2011.
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Now that's what I call a review.
Well presented, thought out and executed.
Appreciated.
“You look at it, you pet it, you talk to it, tell it you miss it. “ Brilliant!! lol
The absolute best channel for everything Stacatto!!!
Ordering tomorrow. Sold my Staccato C for what I paid. Really looking forward to putting the C2 on my belt.
First time viewer of 10-8. Excellent critique of the SC2. Thanks
I... MUST... HAVE...
Yeah that’s me, a 1911 guy that begrudgingly went to the G19’s... because capacity.
Very well done video. When you mentioned choice and use of the weapon my attention peaked at the mention of 1911 “affection “ . C2 now a must for me.
I think you should do a review of the guitar and amp that was used for your soundtrack.
I believe I saw a Kemper profiling amp in the background.
Terrific review, really sold me on this as my next carry pistol. Thanks.
Your knowledgeable opinion makes sense. I am a rerired LEO and former military. That C2 is the perfect mix of modern 1911 evolution. Has all the features I need as an old school 1911 shooter. Was a tanker and carried a 1911 with a bad case of battle rattle for years. But I digress. Has all the features but one that I am looking for. Not criticizing anyone's choices either. This is my choice. For me it would be perfect but it has to be 45ACP. Hope it is offered in that caliber. I own a Gen I STI Hextac 4.0 with a 4.15 barrel. And have carried it for years and it has been flawless. Despite the fact that I have read from experts that double stack 2011s in 45ACP are notorious for feeding problems. Maybe I am jinxing myself. But have never experienced that with my old Hextac 4.0. Great video. Really enjoy your channel. Thank you.
This popped up in my YT feed - great review and skills and first time seeing Hilton Yam ... I remember you from the old days on rec.knives with GZK, that was over 20 years ago!
Daniel Lee Whoa!! That was just a bit ago!
I found a gun store near me that has a Staccato C2 in stock. Actually it has several different models of Staccato pistols in stock, but I want to buy the Staccato C2. They open and 9:00 AM and I'm going to go down and buy it based on the videos you have produced. STI needs to be sponsoring your channel. I subscribed to your channel today. Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos. Outstanding work.
Good luck and enjoy! Thanks for watching!
108Performance , I bought the C2 this morning and took it to the range for a couple hundred rounds of fun. I’m very happy with this pistol.
Just got my c2 duo today can't wait to shoot it this weekend!!!!
Great review…. I enjoy my C2, P, and XL….Staccato’s are great🤠Thanks for your service, also former 1811 - be safe and really like your mag extenders👍on my C2
Thank you for a great review. Staccato just came to our range and I got a little time with them. Just debating this or the P.
Sick jam too bro!
You’re a badass reviewer. I enjoy your channel immensely
Thank you for watching!
What an outstanding video! Thank you very much for the work you put into this video review. I don't know that I'll every carry it, but I think I want one.
Been thinking about getting this model for sometime, good info, thanks for the video.
Just got mine. The natural progression
for 1911 guys that need to stay prepared for the new world we live in.
I have the P Duo and C2 Duo. The C2 is hands down the carry gun. You think the p isnt that big but once you have it it is. I can carry the C2 no issue all day. On top of my Glock 26 that is my EDC it is almost the same size with the glock plus 2 on the mag. I love the C2 it has 16 plus 1 rounds of capacity with a flush mag. It comes with 3 mags and if you get the Duo it has the optic cut. If you do not care about an optic you can save $500 and go C2 not the C2 Duo. Duo indicates optic ready for those that do not know. One thing to add is the C2 can use the larger capacity Mags, so you can get the 170MM as a extra mag and carry one mag rather than 2 and hav extra 27 rounds. Out of the box you have a 50 round box of ammo capacity. 3 16 round mags plus 1. I dont think there is anyone really competing with Staccato in this market. The overall quality the feel and the optic capability. Just all around fantastic. Cant forget the trigger. The trigger is just incredible.
I feel the same way about my c2 duo!!!
Excellent review! I’m even more eager to get ahold of a C2 now. Hopefully sometime this fall/ early winter.
Thanks for making this! Excited to test my c2
Selling my “C:”” and targeting the C2. Thank you for your professional approach.
You going c2 or c2 duo?
Duo seems the best choice
Just put a down payment on one. You hit all the points. I really think this is the best carry gun out there. Great music too.
What are your current opinions?
Thoughtful & intelligent review by & of a superb shooter, Ty.
Awesome review of the gun. 👍👍👍
Wow, no BS just straight usable info. Refreshing, Thanks
Great review, I think you just converted from a c2 to P.. New sub and fellow guntuber who’s just starting out
This.... this is the first gun I’m getting when I move to Nevada.
Ah, escaping to the Land of The Free, and Home of The Brave. Escaping socialism I hope?
Great vid. I was just going to yt to look for a vid on the C2. I think it would compliment the P very well.
Awesome Video! I love the compariosns and honest opinions! Keep rocking it Brother! I am considering a 2020 Stacato C2 for sure. I am seeing how much more they are accurate and impressive. Lokking forward to many more videos to come.
Outstanding
You're the best
What's the best way the carry the C2 for a slightly over weight average build (5' 9" - 185 lb)
LAS Concealment AIWB
Excellent review Hilton. I found it interesting that you were 2/10 of a second faster on the staccato P 4” Compared to the staccato P 2020 4.4” on the bill drill I figured the longer barrel and slide would’ve let you track faster and return to target quicker..
The 4.15 was 2.20 and the 4.45 was 2.23....only .03 or 3/100 faster, a statistically insignificant time difference. I was able to run the same times with both P models though the 4.45 was a little softer. Comparison of those two is in the works.
Do you use any special belt for the LAS holster or just whatever your wearing that day?
Excellent C2 Review🔥🔥🔥
Just got my c2 and all I can say is it is fun to shoot, the only question I have is, is it normal for the slide to have a play? But if I insert a full mag it is solid and tight.
I have two of the c2s and they will show some play in the slide to frame. First, the anodized aluminum will wear in a bit and the DLC will as well. As they both add some added material to the steel and aluminum.
I have 5k rounds through one, Kyle defoor had 25k through his, with no cleaning. He had no issues from it.
Tony Pignato the XO at Staccato has 50k though his.
@@ACGBLRappreciate the answer, thank you 👍
Just wondering if there is anything different between the 4.15 Staccato P versus the Stoccato c2 other than. Small difference in barrel? Thanks
@108Performance
nice Kemper amp. i just sold my old dust music gear i dont use anymore to get a C2 Duo...lol
*Dusty
Nice work! Yeah that Kemper is neat.
I’m carrying the C2 also.
Well getting ready to do armed security and a edc I am going with the c2 a lot of enforcement carry 17 or 19 and 320 . If it has the same Characteristics as a G 19 I think the C2 would be good for what I’m looking for thank you for the information
You're Good! Enjoyed it. keep up the good stuff.
Great video!
I bought my first STI a couple months ago; Staccato C and thought my next would be a P....hmmmmm. Now you have me thinking.
BTW, are you a guitarist? Amp in the background.
Pet it and miss it and stuff 😂 excellent review. I’m torn between this and Triarc TRI-11
David Richardson triarc doesn’t make a officer sized frame gun. For me it’s the grip that’s hardest to conceal. I also believe the triarc is going to be much much nicer from a quality standpoint. You should also look at the nighthawk TRS Commander I think probably the nicest out of those 3. As always YMMV.
Rick
R P B 7 I’ll check it out thanks for the info.
I would love to see a Staccato C2 vs Wilson Combat EDC X9 comparison review.
I've been wanting to pick up a staccato c2 or p. I like the idea of the duo's but would much prefer a slide milled specifically for the rmr instead of that big chunky plate
lilmanop It’s not physically possible to direct mount an RMR because the footprint is wider than the slide. That’s exactly why the plate is there. If you want a thinner plate, get the C&H plate with our front sight.
excellent....... nice review! thx
Could I put a C2 frame/grip on a P slide?
I believe u can
Smooth!! Great video
Sir, I just subscribed to your channel. Great content overall. My question regarding the c2, is it left hand friendly? Can you move the mag release and so forth,? I'm very interested in this gun. Keep up the great work. Thankyou.
Great review and perfect timing for me finding your channel! Just back from Shot Show and interested in the C2. I'm currently pocket carrying a Walther PPK and do like it but the limited rounds "could" be an issue at some point (Hopefully never!). I didn't see you mention what barrel option you have in your C2 and why you selected it. I have plenty of other pistols for the range and also threaded barrels for my suppressors so don't really need that. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Bill
There weren't any bbl options when this was filmed. I use and suggest the standard barrel for actual work.
@@108Performance Thanks!
Hey man, love your videos. I just got Staccato C Duo...do you have any recommendations for holsters??? I like the holster it came with, but prefer a holster with 2 points of contact on my belt. Thank you!
Would be great to disassemble and show the internal features and machining that sets this pistol apart. Better to show than just tell.
Amazing content! I’m considering to get a C2. Is the grip of the c2 bigger than a Glock 19?
I noticed you have a flat trigger on. Which one?
Do you need to break your grip to eject the mag with the C2 (or P for that matter)?
Grip is broken to hit mag catch on most guns, for all but the largest hand sizes.
Do u like the p 4.4 ITV the c2 better ?
I’ve seen ppl say the magazine have problems
If you wanted, could you run a Gen 2 C2 grip with a full length frame + slide from a Staccato P or XC?
Yes. There are several other videos where he has a Staccato P set up that way, HOWEVER all factory production capacity for grips is going into new guns, so you will not be able to grab one for a while. You could pick up an older "VIP" grip as a stopgap, but even those command a premium.
The question is, if you are looking for a full size gun, is the staccato P or the 5" 2011 variants a better choice?
Awesome review. Quick question tho. Its the magwell a little flaired? Tiny bit?
Krit Sukawat Flared, no. Beveled, yes. It’s plenty fast.
My C2 duo is the best gun I've ever owned
Any idea do they intend to make a tool less guide rod in the future??
CZ 1always Please watch the video. I explain the guide rod situation.
108Performance so it looks like I’m buying a staccato P on top of my staccato C2 ... Believe it or not I do have the money for it. Been kind a looking at Atlas.
Regardless what has been stated about this staccato P is not a carry gun in anyway unless you are a law enforcement And can open carry 24 /7 open
And are willing .
Will emphasize this for newcomers a gun is no good if you do not have it with you. Sounds silly but it’s not ..
no matter what any body on RUclips or the Internet says
concealing a gun is not comfortable. Nor is it meant to be.
To quote“Clint from Thunder Ranch .
Carrying a gun concealed 24 seven it’s not supposed to be comfortable it’s supposed to be comforting there is a big difference.... many people do not have a gun with them. Because of the size ... Too many new gun owners out there...Just stating the facts
CZ 1always I don’t find that to be true at all about the Staccato P. I carry mine on a regular basis. It’s about what you’re willing to carry and dressing around it. A good holster with a 15-20 degree cant makes it easy enough to hide. Is it for everyone? No. Some people want the tiniest gun possible, and that’s OK. I am of the mindset of carrying the biggest gun I can conceal because of generally higher capacity and bigger guns tend to be much softer shooters than the tiny pocket pistols.
TheLegoJoker sounds great 👍 got to do what works for you . Glock 17 / Staccato P Do not CCW with me in a tee shirt and shorts. And I’d find that to be the case with anyone ... to each there own though
What are your thoughts on 2019 staccato P vs 2020 staccato P? Is it worth picking up a 2019 over the newer model?
Hyped for when mine get finished being made. Thanks for sharing. #Newsubscriber
Should I pick this up, the c2 duo or the edc X9.
Researched the x9 for a LONG time. Love the way it feels in my hand.. BUT still love the way my buddies VIP shot.
What would you do?
Lastman Offthefield Well I think we know what I did....
108Performance did you even consider the edc x9?
Lastman Offthefield Not even for a moment. It has a round Beretta 92 feel which doesn’t work for me at all.
Are all C2 frames aluminum?
Was wondering what you thought about the aluminum frame?
What do you think about it holding up over higher round counts?
Not concerned. Few shooters are going to log enough rounds to wear out any gun.
108Performance was asking because I was looking at this gun to be a carry gun plus a gun to take classes with like you were talking about .
I understand what you are saying but I am USPSA shooter who competes and practices regularly. While I wasn’t looking to compete with this gun I will be taking it to my practice sessions.
So that’s just why I was asking.
By the way really enjoy your videos.
What Holosun would be best for c2DUO Hilton?
507k is pretty handy and you can use low sights
Any benefit to the 10-8 base pads other than nicer fit and finish?
All the other features....check the link in description
Hilton; I would be eager to see a video of your go-to firearms. With your background you have obviously been exposed to a ton of different weapons. So what's your SHTF setup?
Derek McClure We talking zombie apocalypse? The various handguns from the videos are the standard go to items. I have some AR platforms if I want something bigger. Let me know your specific thoughts in case there’s a video topic in there!
@@108Performance yeah i guess more long gun choices.
I haven’t held or shot any of them but I’m not sure if I want to order a C or C2 for conceal carry. Is the C really much more compact?
Bbl and grip length on C/C2 are similar to Glock 19...so choose between a gun that size with 10 or 17 rds. C2 is the winner.
@@108Performance thanks! I wasn’t sure if the profile of both were a big difference. But the C2 is winning the vote so far!
@ Hilton what is the best ammo to use in the c2 124 or 147?
Mario Duncan I like softer 115 or 124 loads with round nose for smoother feeding.
How about the C2 Duo? Are you planning to do a review?
Matt Williams Well the C2 DUO will shoot exactly the same as the C2, so there won’t be that much to talk about after this video.
What holster are you using at the range for the c2?
How do you like that holster? I just picked up a C2, have been looking at holsters.
Check out QVO Tactical. I went with them for holsters for my Staccato Pduo and XC. Great quality.
LAS is my go to AIWB.
@@108Performance I have been an STI fan for 15 years or so but never owned one. Saw this review last weekend and it sold me on the C2. Found a C2 DUO yesterday and immediately purchased it. It will be my new EDC. Going to try the LAS holster you have. Never tried appendix carry. Current carry is a leather Milt Sparks VM2 at 5 o'clock position. What type of clips do you prefer on the SHOGUN? They have a few options to choose from. Lastly, can you actually wear AIWB while driving or sitting in a chair? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Didn’t you end up putting the larger frame on yours ?!
The frame is the metal chassis, so no. I also did not change grips on it either.
Any problems running +P in this?
No but gun will be snappy due to slide velocity and overall weight.
@@108Performance thanks
Can you RMR cut these?
Just get the DUO model
Yawn
That's some very helpful feedback. I'm sorry that this channel's free content isn't sufficiently stimulating for you.
Staccato… overpriced, over rated waste of money. I’ll put money down that a staccato wouldn’t last half as long as a Glock 17 in a “gauntlet” type torture test, like the ones Military Arms Channel runs. For killing paper in competition, sure. But for combat in real life and battle proven, a Glock just literally smokes away the STI/Staccatos.
Man, this comment didn’t age well lmao. You have spec ops that run Staccatos, in addition to USMS, and local, state, and other federal agencies. I suppose you also haven’t seen the plethora of videos where people pack mud/dirt/sand/etc. and it works just fine. It’s okay to say you just can’t afford one.
@@killerinst1ncz308 “spec ops”? Go back to call of duty Junior. That’s a term no longer used except in movies. Affording a Staccato and blowing money on a Gucci-gun are two different things. Did you know that their magazines cost $100? Each? Would you use an 18karat gold sledge hammer to break up concrete?
@@colt10mmsecurity68mags cost $69 and like the comment above, numerous law enforcement and military guys are carrying these and testing has been done on them. I agree that a Glock 17 will take more of a beating and not need as much lubrication over time, that wouldn’t be enough to not carry. The benefit being the user being able to put rounds on target faster and more accurately which is what matters most when every shot counts. When you function under stress your fine motor skills diminish to a degree so having something that you naturally shoot more accurately is a major benefit.