They're a great little gun aren't they John? Stupidly accurate.. I might have a play with the trigger on this one and see if we can offer them with sorted triggers.
Certainly take more skill and time to shoot consistently, but the rifle sure is good when you learn how to get accuracy out of it! Not sure if it’s the same trigger block as mine, but there is a tweak using an RC car bearing in the trigger mechanism, it takes all that creep out of it and safety still functions and passes the drop test 😊
Glad to see you're still alive and nice to see a new review Big Dan. Keep up the good work buddy, I enjoy your reviews, you do stuff others don't. Still waiting for that Vixen review though..... :D
Years ago I was looking at a Webley quantum. Ended up getting a HW95 which was lovely to shoot. I'm glad to see the famous English name on a gun that's quite impressive as he said for the money it's a no brainer! It seems.
Thanks Ken! I doubt I'll get time to sadly as things are a bit busy at the moment, as you can see that video should've been uploaded before Christmas! Whoops!
I have the polymer stock version, I paid £170 for mine, it came with scope, gun bag and pellets. Mine is unsilenced though. For all the hate Webley get, just remember that bsa are just Spanish guns made in Birmingham. Admittedly the trigger isn't great, but you get used to it. Mine runs at a constant 11.8 ft lbs and it would be better accuracy wise once you clean the crap out of the barrel from the factory 👍🏻 It's worthy to note, it's guns like this, that get newbies into the sport, if all guns were £1000 + youngsters would not get into it. ( they'd rather have a ps5) ............... in real terms it's cheaper than my meteor I got in 87, and that had no bag, pellets or scope..........
Brilliantly said, this is why I mainly review the budget gear too as there criminally undersupported in my opinion. Webley gets slagged because it's made in Turkey but these days that's far from a problem. Some cracking rifles come from Turkey and they have a long history of firearms development. Where a rifle is made from doesn't determine how good it'll be, Germany has made some right stinkers in the past as have we.
I had a webley vmx quantum a few years ago, bought it during one of the lockdowns, the trigger was definitely the biggest downside, muscle memory from shooting the gun a lot helped but on mine it was basically one long stageless pull. Still a decent gun for the money without a doubt
Hahaha you should have Ashley that would've made a really nice little gun! I might mention the .20's to my suppliers as that could have some potential.
Hello Dan , looks a cracking gun, pie & pint job, got my eye on this for summer. You never know it may be God's calibr 25 😮if it had a steel trigger & Guard it would be perfect
Hi Dan, nice review of a good looking gun, was the metal finished as good as the stock? What surprises me, is that Webley and many other manufacturers haven't designed a trigger unit similar to the Rekord and install it on all models. It takes just one good design to solve one of the problems with budget guns being unable to deliver the accuracy. Novice shooters would benefit the most and not lose interest when they can't hit anything. Greetings from Germany
I've got to say it's got a hell of a lot of similarities to my Hatsan Striker. Spent a lot of time on mine, polishing the internals and trigger parts. Lovely gun for the money
They are the same as 900X/Striker, Need a Full teardown, De burr polish and relube, And trigger sorting, Nice guns after doing that, I look at them as half price kit guns that you have to finish yourself.
You always do excellent reviews Dan. Thanks for braving the weather to give us this one. Just a thought…….wouldn’t it be a good idea to mod this Webley’s trigger prior to selling them in your gun shop if as you say it’s a relatively cheap thing to do?
Hi Nick! That's for the compliment it really means a lot. That's what I'm thinking Nick, it'd be peanuts to sort and it'd make the rifles so much better. I love the Remington Sabre etc but I think the Webley is genuinely a better gun.
Been a while. Hope you’re all good. Busy I would imagine. 2024 and the airgun industry is virtually stagnant except for renaming existing guns by other manufacturers which is fine and all but just lazy imo. That said here in the states I can finally get my hands on some guns from Pyramid Air I couldn’t before because of the rebranding/renaming. The Umarex Notos is a full stop winner! The Zelos/M60T is gonna be another. Still nice to see some break barrels I haven’t had the privilege of seeing before thanks to you. Gotta love a good springer!👍 Stay blessed and hopefully see you again soon. BTW for the $ this is a great little rifle. I would of course; being a cousin/American, want a .22 cal FAC powered beasty!🤷♂️😂😉
After seeing your review on the Remington express compact and getting it and finding it a excellent budget springer. It looks like the Webley is next on the list. 👍 But that toy wouldn't be as funny if it said chicken 🤣 🐓
@bigdansairguns83 I had a go on a Cometa the other day. The Prophecy Of Dan was fulfilled He hath spoken and lo it was thus .And there was much rejoicing ,those that gathered were in awe of the smoothness of thine trigger and shot cycle. Hear ye the wise words of BigDan for he will lead ye to the Promised Pellet Land!
Totally, and considering you have to add on another £100 to tune the twang out of a Weihrauch its kind of the only logical choice. Cant think of another brand offering that shot cycle at that price. Viva Cometa !@@bigdansairguns83
Nice one dan sir hope you have good start to the year .ps we all had a good knees up at the german embassy new years bash got you a spare ticket for the next one
Have you had a look at this air rifle with the quatro trigger, i believe its called the Webley stingray quantum, I don't have one so i cant say for sure, but they look the same gun with a different trigger and slightly different stock
To its credit it was bedding it a bit as I was shooting it, the gritty feeling is practically gone now but it's still nowhere near as good as it deserves to be. I may tweak the triggers from new and see what people think of them.
@@bigdansairguns83 Yep, I remember the trigger on my Gamo break-barrel was a lot like that. Changing to the longer adjusting screw made a world of difference.
Just be prepared to strip, clean, polish, relube on any budget springer, Most of them leave the factory in a shocking state, I don't think I'd go any cheaper than a weihrauch HW99s if I was to buy another springer, But if your willing to fettle them then they can be great little shooters.
Hi Dan just wondering if you have tested the HW90k gas ram.. had one from new back in the 90s brand new for £325 but dont see them much now. been looking for one but no luck yet near me and the price of these guns has gone up a LOT. would be fun to see how it gets on against the newer gas ram guns that are cheaper
Hi Nobby. Tricky one as they're all nice rifles, for me it'd be the Cometa. It has a better trigger than both of the others and the Cometa barrel is pretty much second to none. Plus you should get a lifetime warranty with the Cometa if you know where to look *wink wink* 😉😂 The only thing I'd advise caution on with the Cometa is to make sure it has a metal spring guide, a few years back they had plastic guide which tended to snap making the rifle nasty to shoot. I always inspect mine and fit the guides if necessary.
@@bigdansairguns83 thanks for that I think I've settled on the Cometa. I've actually just bought a used Accumax etc - 550 ( £99) unplanned after seeing your vid on it 🤫 ( don't tell the wife). So I'll have to start putting some 💵💵💵 away and save up for the Cometa.
@@bigdansairguns83 Thanks Big Dan. I had no idea about them either. But a lovely surprise to see SMK coming out with new springers. I really wonder how they will compare to the old favourites the XS20, 208 and the Remington Sabre etc.
Fairly average for an out of the box rifle as you've said, that said it was one random hot shot that let the rifle down which I think was due to a lighter pellet (these were straight from the tin).
What's your thoughts on this or the Remington Sabre. Similar price point. Wanted for some mid range rabbiting. I can't find a stand out reason to choose one or the other. Advice welcome from anyone
I have no affiliation with Big Dan's Airguns and did not purchase my rifles from said... I have a collection of 4 VMX full length (my oldest one - 5yr - actually has the much vaunted 'Powerlock' spring... it's square section wire and recoil is best described as 'jaw numbing'), a QS in .22 / all in synthetic, ... and a Cub in .177 / beeche for teaching the younguns to shoot and with a butt extention makes a Cracking adult plinker. The triggers are Single Stage (Quattro Trigger is available iirc) and adjustment screw has no free thread to shorten the stage, solved removing the M3x10 and inserting an M3x15mm :) My rifles shine with Remington Tyrant domes and Punch flats, 5p size groups of 5 @ 40yrd in nice conditions... opens or scoped! Synthetic or Beeche, these are a Genuinely great budget rifle and worth every penny.
Spot on Bunny! (shhh here's your big bag of sponsorship money). They're a great little gun, I was explaining to our supplier's sales rep the other day that the VMX needs a longer adjustment screw and it makes the trigger so much more useable. If they could give it a slightly crisper pull you'd have a stonking little gun. As you've said they're so accurate.
Why buy a Webley that is just the name but definitely not made in Birmingham. Surely it would be better to buy a genuine classic second hand, there must be dozens out there
Hi David. I'd argue because it's a good little gun outright and of course new with warranty. The rifle is mainly aimed at newcomers or those wanting a working springer and some may not want to take a classic Webley out hunting nor potentially have one as a first rifle. The rifle may not be made in Birmingham however elements of the rifle are made similarly to the Birmingham Webleys, the safety is Webley's design as is the Powr-Lok system.
In your own quiet way you do some of the very best airgun reviews on RUclips. Good to see you out and about Dan.
bout bloody time 😉👌🏻.
thanks again for the hw80K , she's half way to looking glorious already 👍🏻
Hey Chris! Hahaha it was great meeting you buddy I'm looking forward to see what you can do with that!
I have a Webley VMX and the trigger unit is all that lets it down, but when the trigger is sorted omg what a brilliant little rifle!
They're a great little gun aren't they John? Stupidly accurate.. I might have a play with the trigger on this one and see if we can offer them with sorted triggers.
Certainly take more skill and time to shoot consistently, but the rifle sure is good when you learn how to get accuracy out of it! Not sure if it’s the same trigger block as mine, but there is a tweak using an RC car bearing in the trigger mechanism, it takes all that creep out of it and safety still functions and passes the drop test 😊
@@johnwhittle.22 I'm willing to bet it's a superb rifle now John.
@@bigdansairguns83 certainly more than just a back garden plinker 😃
.Must Be Easter Dan's Doing A Christmas Video 😂😂😂 Good to see 5:14 ya thanks for the Boardom killer👍🏻👍🏻 There's a Crow and your Testing a Air Rifle 🤔🤔
Hey Yeti! Haha I'm already filming the Easter video for Christmas!
Hey Dan. Always enjoy your reviews. Thanks for all the effort to bring them to the air gun community.
Glad to see you're still alive and nice to see a new review Big Dan.
Keep up the good work buddy, I enjoy your reviews, you do stuff others don't. Still waiting for that Vixen review though..... :D
Hey Jay! I'll get the Vixen done when I can get my greedy mitts on one rest assured.
Years ago I was looking at a Webley quantum. Ended up getting a HW95 which was lovely to shoot. I'm glad to see the famous English name on a gun that's quite impressive as he said for the money it's a no brainer! It seems.
They're a nice little rifle the Webley VMX it must be said. Pretty little gun too!
That said the 95 is certainly no slouch. 😉
Looks a cracking little rifle Dan for a silly little amount of money 👍🇬🇧
The trigger, trigger guard, safety and the anti creep scope mount look very similar to my Hatsan X900
Nice to see you back big man. Are you off to the shooting show by any chance?
Thanks Ken! I doubt I'll get time to sadly as things are a bit busy at the moment, as you can see that video should've been uploaded before Christmas! Whoops!
I have the polymer stock version, I paid £170 for mine, it came with scope, gun bag and pellets.
Mine is unsilenced though.
For all the hate Webley get, just remember that bsa are just Spanish guns made in Birmingham.
Admittedly the trigger isn't great, but you get used to it.
Mine runs at a constant 11.8 ft lbs and it would be better accuracy wise once you clean the crap out of the barrel from the factory 👍🏻
It's worthy to note, it's guns like this, that get newbies into the sport, if all guns were £1000 + youngsters would not get into it. ( they'd rather have a ps5) ...............
in real terms it's cheaper than my meteor I got in 87, and that had no bag, pellets or scope..........
Brilliantly said, this is why I mainly review the budget gear too as there criminally undersupported in my opinion. Webley gets slagged because it's made in Turkey but these days that's far from a problem. Some cracking rifles come from Turkey and they have a long history of firearms development.
Where a rifle is made from doesn't determine how good it'll be, Germany has made some right stinkers in the past as have we.
Suffering for your art Dan.Great little rifle,cheer's
It's what you buggers tune in for I'm sure. 😂 Thanks Jumpit!
Nice rifle and some great shooting... Brilliant review as always and as good as you said it was going to be 😊
Thanks Andy!
I had a webley vmx quantum a few years ago, bought it during one of the lockdowns, the trigger was definitely the biggest downside, muscle memory from shooting the gun a lot helped but on mine it was basically one long stageless pull. Still a decent gun for the money without a doubt
Airgungearshow meets Ryan's world love it nice rifle nearly bought one in .20 but didn't wish I had.
Hahaha you should have Ashley that would've made a really nice little gun! I might mention the .20's to my suppliers as that could have some potential.
Hello Dan , looks a cracking gun, pie & pint job, got my eye on this for summer. You never know it may be God's calibr 25 😮if it had a steel trigger & Guard it would be perfect
Hi Dan, nice review of a good looking gun, was the metal finished as good as the stock?
What surprises me, is that Webley and many other manufacturers haven't designed a trigger unit similar to the Rekord and install it on all models. It takes just one good design to solve one of the problems with budget guns being unable to deliver the accuracy. Novice shooters would benefit the most and not lose interest when they can't hit anything.
Greetings from Germany
That is a really nice looking rifle for not a lot of money 👍 Nice review too.
Thanks bud!
I've got to say it's got a hell of a lot of similarities to my Hatsan Striker. Spent a lot of time on mine, polishing the internals and trigger parts. Lovely gun for the money
Thought so as I used 900x this morning and I thought the safety system was familiar
They are the same as 900X/Striker, Need a Full teardown, De burr polish and relube, And trigger sorting, Nice guns after doing that, I look at them as half price kit guns that you have to finish yourself.
Good looking gun
Fantastic review. I'm looking for a springer and this might just be it. Thank you
You're welcome Ken's crack of doom!
You always do excellent reviews Dan. Thanks for braving the weather to give us this one. Just a thought…….wouldn’t it be a good idea to mod this Webley’s trigger prior to selling them in your gun shop if as you say it’s a relatively cheap thing to do?
Hi Nick! That's for the compliment it really means a lot. That's what I'm thinking Nick, it'd be peanuts to sort and it'd make the rifles so much better. I love the Remington Sabre etc but I think the Webley is genuinely a better gun.
Nice one Dan mate ,she's not all Fur Coat and no knickers then 😅🇬🇧🙏😎 have a good one mate 👍
Love a webley, its a change from the norm,, iv got a few 😊❤👌🇬🇧thanks dan
Nice to see you back & with an outstanding rifle... for the price.
Merry Christmas, btw.
Been a while. Hope you’re all good. Busy I would imagine. 2024 and the airgun industry is virtually stagnant except for renaming existing guns by other manufacturers which is fine and all but just lazy imo. That said here in the states I can finally get my hands on some guns from Pyramid Air I couldn’t before because of the rebranding/renaming. The Umarex Notos is a full stop winner! The Zelos/M60T is gonna be another. Still nice to see some break barrels I haven’t had the privilege of seeing before thanks to you. Gotta love a good springer!👍 Stay blessed and hopefully see you again soon. BTW for the $ this is a great little rifle. I would of course; being a cousin/American, want a .22 cal FAC powered beasty!🤷♂️😂😉
After seeing your review on the Remington express compact and getting it and finding it a excellent budget springer. It looks like the Webley is next on the list. 👍 But that toy wouldn't be as funny if it said chicken 🤣 🐓
Hahaha you'll be impressed with the Webley Erik. Cheers!
Nice looking gun.Its yet to fully bed in as well If they combined those looks with the Cometa's internals = Weihrauch would be worried
Hi Barry! Wouldn't that be something? A Cometebley. I'd have one!
@bigdansairguns83 I had a go on a Cometa the other day. The Prophecy Of Dan was fulfilled He hath spoken and lo it was thus .And there was much rejoicing ,those that gathered were in awe of the smoothness of thine trigger and shot cycle. Hear ye the wise words of BigDan for he will lead ye to the Promised Pellet Land!
@@barrydonegan1 I don't know about that hahahaha thanks Barry! They're a bit pukka aren't they? Massively underrated rifles.
Totally, and considering you have to add on another £100 to tune the twang out of a Weihrauch its kind of the only logical choice. Cant think of another brand offering that shot cycle at that price. Viva Cometa !@@bigdansairguns83
@@barrydonegan1 Viva indeed Barry. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Nice one dan sir hope you have good start to the year .ps we all had a good knees up at the german embassy new years bash got you a spare ticket for the next one
Fantastic rifle for the money we'll impressed.Dan.
Great video , Dan!
Thanks bud!
Nice review Dan
Thanks Jeff!
Have you had a look at this air rifle with the quatro trigger, i believe its called the Webley stingray quantum, I don't have one so i cant say for sure, but they look the same gun with a different trigger and slightly different stock
Dan why are you wearing Fagins gloves?
Because it's Fagin cold!
...Sorry.
@@bigdansairguns83😂
Lovely looking rifle. Real shame about that trigger.
To its credit it was bedding it a bit as I was shooting it, the gritty feeling is practically gone now but it's still nowhere near as good as it deserves to be. I may tweak the triggers from new and see what people think of them.
@@bigdansairguns83 Yep, I remember the trigger on my Gamo break-barrel was a lot like that. Changing to the longer adjusting screw made a world of difference.
Great review thanks! Looking for a sub £200 budget springer for my son and weighing this up with the remington sabre
Just be prepared to strip, clean, polish, relube on any budget springer, Most of them leave the factory in a shocking state, I don't think I'd go any cheaper than a weihrauch HW99s if I was to buy another springer, But if your willing to fettle them then they can be great little shooters.
@coaldust01 That is really good advice, thank you!
Has this gun now replaced the Stingray two.
What a shame abt the plastic trigger guard. I'd have to try fashion a metal one.
Love it a lot!!!!
Hi Dan just wondering if you have tested the HW90k gas ram.. had one from new back in the 90s brand new for £325 but dont see them much now. been looking for one but no luck yet near me and the price of these guns has gone up a LOT. would be fun to see how it gets on against the newer gas ram guns that are cheaper
The gun is no good if its Kak down range 😂. See you've been hanging out with the saffars. Thanks for another good video
Haha you're welcome Andre!
Dan,
Bsa lighting
Vmx quantum
Cometa fenix USC
Which would be your recommendation?
.177
Mostly,
Target at 25-30m
Maybe some vermin in the future.
Ta!
Hi Nobby.
Tricky one as they're all nice rifles, for me it'd be the Cometa. It has a better trigger than both of the others and the Cometa barrel is pretty much second to none. Plus you should get a lifetime warranty with the Cometa if you know where to look *wink wink* 😉😂
The only thing I'd advise caution on with the Cometa is to make sure it has a metal spring guide, a few years back they had plastic guide which tended to snap making the rifle nasty to shoot. I always inspect mine and fit the guides if necessary.
@@bigdansairguns83 thanks for that I think I've settled on the Cometa. I've actually just bought a used Accumax etc - 550 ( £99) unplanned after seeing your vid on it 🤫 ( don't tell the wife). So I'll have to start putting some 💵💵💵 away and save up for the Cometa.
Any chance of getting the New SMK supergrade rifles, the XS22, XS23 and XS24 on review Big Dan?.
Hey Ron! I didn't know they existed! I'll get one filmed if I get my mitts on them for sure.
@@bigdansairguns83 Thanks Big Dan. I had no idea about them either. But a lovely surprise to see SMK coming out with new springers.
I really wonder how they will compare to the old favourites the XS20, 208 and the Remington Sabre etc.
24 feet was the differense in 20 shot. No good no bad.
Fairly average for an out of the box rifle as you've said, that said it was one random hot shot that let the rifle down which I think was due to a lighter pellet (these were straight from the tin).
What's your thoughts on this or the Remington Sabre. Similar price point. Wanted for some mid range rabbiting. I can't find a stand out reason to choose one or the other. Advice welcome from anyone
Please, what's the best break barell for hunting, at around 200 euros in the European market please? I'd really appreciate any suggestions
Dan, can you do a review of a Kalbrgun please
I have no affiliation with Big Dan's Airguns and did not purchase my rifles from said...
I have a collection of 4 VMX full length (my oldest one - 5yr - actually has the much vaunted 'Powerlock' spring... it's square section wire and recoil is best described as 'jaw numbing'), a QS in .22 / all in synthetic, ... and a Cub in .177 / beeche for teaching the younguns to shoot and with a butt extention makes a Cracking adult plinker.
The triggers are Single Stage (Quattro Trigger is available iirc) and adjustment screw has no free thread to shorten the stage, solved removing the M3x10 and inserting an M3x15mm :)
My rifles shine with Remington Tyrant domes and Punch flats, 5p size groups of 5 @ 40yrd in nice conditions... opens or scoped!
Synthetic or Beeche, these are a Genuinely great budget rifle and worth every penny.
Spot on Bunny! (shhh here's your big bag of sponsorship money).
They're a great little gun, I was explaining to our supplier's sales rep the other day that the VMX needs a longer adjustment screw and it makes the trigger so much more useable.
If they could give it a slightly crisper pull you'd have a stonking little gun. As you've said they're so accurate.
@@bigdansairguns83 Oddly, I do need to send you an email...
About Cometa and pellets.
You should make accuracy test always properly supported like for benchrest shooting to get the best results.
Norica dream rider to check please 🙏
Had a go of one of those, not too bad but the trigger curls up as you pull it and pinches your finger, terrible.
Made by Hatsan in Turkey
Nothing wrong with that. Hatsan make some excellent springers!
@@bigdansairguns83 Yep, i have one, nice Turkish walnut stock.
You can feel it, touch it, you name it, lick it if you want 😂
Why buy a Webley that is just the name but definitely not made in Birmingham. Surely it would be better to buy a genuine classic second hand, there must be dozens out there
Hi David. I'd argue because it's a good little gun outright and of course new with warranty. The rifle is mainly aimed at newcomers or those wanting a working springer and some may not want to take a classic Webley out hunting nor potentially have one as a first rifle.
The rifle may not be made in Birmingham however elements of the rifle are made similarly to the Birmingham Webleys, the safety is Webley's design as is the Powr-Lok system.
Why do you keep calling these standard air rifles as 'little'?
Looks like a Hatsan Striker.
😊😊 nice share
How much for the toy?
Good gun but the trigger 😮
Stingray has a far better trigger!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Hoooooow many takes for that?
Worth.
Every.
Reset.
😂😂😂
Hahaha you're welcome. I was tempted to pan the camera onto me afterwards.
@@bigdansairguns83 It's those little attention to detail things that make your reviews stand out marra 🤘😂
Is this a good rifle for pest control? I’ve got rats that run across my garden
Nice stock 😂