Fantastic video. There is no perfect dash cam and I would love to combine features from each to make the perfect one. Take the Viofo A229 Pro Image Quality, take the Thinkware U3000 Radar Parking Mode, Take Blackvues DR970X Plus form factor and more importantly their Cloud Features (with the U3000 4K upload to cloud quality) and I would have my near perfect system :) One suggestion. Since they all have different files sizes during the download test, I would divide the file size by the time to see which has the best download rate to make it all equal.
Yes i wish there was one that had all the features but still. What next heat issues? Or how big will it be? Best download rate is still Vueroid #1, viofo #2, thinkware #3, Blackvue #4 if you want to go by that. At end of the day our customers tend to care how long it takes to download a video to their phone. Thinkware will take same time whether video is 1 second long or 30 seconds or 1 minute. Which is weird but that is how their software works. I will verify if Viofo works same way
Excellent work Ben, You are killing it with the comparison videos. I appreciate the time you took making revisions to make the video as accurate as possible. -Chuck
Great job in comparing these dash cameras - it looks like the Vueroid D21 has the best recording for license plates and overall being able to read signs.
There is no better comparison video than this!!! Simply outstanding!!! Could you please do comparison on Rear mirror view dash cam concepts please???!!! Thanks a lot in advance!!!
@@WIZEMART we do not have any rear view mirror comparison. Oddly enough everytime we find someone who wants us to review a mirror dash camera. They are willing to send me one. Then all of sudden they want us to order products to send a sample. Hopefully in the future.
More A229 PROs: 1) One can add Interior Camera later if bought 2CH. 2) CPL filter exists for Front & Rear. 3) DashCam can be connected directly to Mobile using C type to C type Cable for faster data copying and firmware upgrade. 4) VIOFO app can be installed in almost all Car player/Android player so one can watch live preview in it instead of mobile.
Or do as I did if only a 2 channel front/interior is needed, order directly from Viofo and request the front camera with the interior camera being substituted for the rear camera.
Yes, one can install Viofo app on almost any Android system and use it to watch live preview instead of watching on mobile. Try it and include it on any of your future videos.
@@SafeDriveSolutions That is good news, I was not aware of that! Many people just want a front and interior setup, and could care less about the rear camera. I would prefer to buy from you as you are more local to me.
Great vid like always. I'm glad another new company join the dashcam world more compilation the better. 15:50 Manual recording for blackvue is one of many things i find inconsistent with them I would just smack the camera to save a clip lol. As much i like dashcams but they still have a long way to come
I have the viofo a119 mini 2 and a139 pro in my cars. They’re great, but beware the GPS wont work if you have tint that contains metal on your windshield. The A119 mini 2 froze twice in the one year I’ve owned it. Restarted the camera and everything was fine. It hasnt frozen since I updated the firmware. The 139 pro has been flawless. The apps is simple and user friendly, and file transfer is pretty quick when connected to the 5GHz wifi. Image quality is excellent, even the a119 mini. And it’s not too picky about SD card choices. I used to have Blackvue dashcams, and they’re very particular about what SD card we use. But there’s one thing that the Blackvue impressed me about. It’s very durable. My first blackvue, the DR590W, was on my car for 6 years, and the only issue I had was with the battery, which made the the date and time settings went awry, but that was fixable with a little soldering. And it didnt affect the dashcam’s performance. I gave that dashcam to a friend, and it’s still running flawlessly today.
Thanks for the very informative video! Question: The power consumption while in time-lapse mode of the Viofo was the highest, but so was its frame rate (10fps). Does the power consumption decrease with a lower frame rate, like 3fps or 2fps?
The problem with these cameras is that even at 4K recording quality still it is impossible to see license plate numbers. You need to be very close from 7 to 10 feet away from the car in order to read the license plate numbers. If the license plate numbers are not legible you have 0 chance to win the case in court. You need to document the license plate of the car, date, time, place, make and color of the car. All this info should be recorded by the camera.
are you watching this in 4K? just have to ask becasue in a lower eresolution it will probably look like that and YouTunbe does not always defaulyt to 4K
Best dashcam comparison review channel on YT! For the download speed test wouldnt the comparison be better if it wssnt based on 1 minute video but nearly same file size or download average mb/s?
Very good video. I consider that starting from 2023 people should understand that there are two types of dashcams: with HDR and without HDR. In 2024 I would not buy a dashcam without HDR. I know from many years that the people are paying more money on a dashcam because of night footage. During day there are no major difference between a cheap dashcam (for example Viofo A119) and an expensive dashcam like Blackvue or Thinkware. The power of HDR is at night and for reading the registration plates and in this video you didn't covered this. I hope in the future video you will make a car license plates legibility comparison and the best for all people is to wait for the Viofo telephoto camera. Also you can compare a normal lens with a telephoto lens but the most important thing is to show the power of the HDR because without HDR even a telephoto lens will not capture license plates at night. In this video was no evidence about HDR superiority and people can think that HDR is just a marketing logo good for nothing but to ask for more money. No, HDR is one of the best achievements in dashcam history.
License plates are covered in this video. We did not cover license plates at night in this video. Mainly because we had reshot the video 3 times because the blackvue manual recording feature was acting up so it was not locking videos while driving for us to easily find and get when back in the office. License plates is also very time consuming when comes to video editing. We have future videos coming up where we will include. HDR is shown in many of our videos and explained in many of our videos. Stating no evidence of HDR superiority is not a proper statement. The tunnel test alone shows HDR superiority, driving at night their HDR examples. If you are looking for this type of video ruclips.net/video/mUCFKHQ_ims/видео.html where we go over video examples. We will be doing a little more of this in the future. But there are many dashcams with HDR that are low quality. HDR does not make a dash camera good. Integrating HDR correctly will give good video quality, at night, during the day in sunlight, driving through a tunnel and how quick it adapts going in and coming out. That is true HDR. most people think it is only driving for night and that is a common misunderstanding. By the way i subscribed I will be watching your video soon.
@@SafeDriveSolutions Excellent response, Ben. Well thought out and informative. I agree with you, it is definitely more how the manufacturer implements the HDR functionality on the camera than if the camera just has it or not that will depend on how good the video quality will be. I have an old Pruveeo C2 dash cam (circa 2017-2018) that supposedly has HDR (or, more accurately, I believe WDR...) and I have that feature on all the time. It shoots pretty decent footage during the day (at 1080p 60fps), but it can't record worth anything at night! I can barely make out the road directly in front of my car that the headlights illuminate and reflections from road signs, but that's about it. (And the road signs are so overdeveloped that you can't read what they say anyways, they just show up as bright blobs of light on the side of the road.)
Keep up the good work. I got the A139 pro because I was looking for the best image quality and license plate readability with only front recording and I hope hope they keep the firmware updates at the same standard as the A229 pro. I do hope they make firmware updating much easier for future dashcams though, because playing with sd cards for that is just 2010 and not 2024.
Very informative, glad to come across your channel. One feature I have yet to see on dash cams are live recordings of you car when parked. Do you know of any security car cams that have a feature where you can monitor your car live (on phone app) while parked. Thank you!
Love, love looooove your energy, knowledge, honesty and deducation you put into your content. I was looking for my first dash camera and surely assured you helped me make my decision. I have ordered the Viofo A229PRO 3CH and am excited as a child waiting for a Christmas present, hehe... studying my internal fuse box for an appropriate spot. Now, I am looking into a power pack to prolong that parking mode time, any recommendations? Thanks in advance 🙂
Ben, understand you cannot review ALL dashcams in a single vid, but the omission of the Vantrue N4 Pro is clearly an oversight. As you pointed out in a previous vid, the 5-6 sec. delay on impact in Parking Mode is a weakness, agreed. However this unit's night clarity if second to none, and with the proper hard wire kit the parking mode Voltage/Timer can be set to prevent battery drain. So many other options as well including a nice sharp viewing screen which one can turn off if you find it distracting. But nice to have as an option. Sorry but any review of the Best 4K dashcams should include the N4 Pro to be an honest review. Otherwise you are omitting a great dashcam for consideration by your viewers. Other than the parking mode recording delay, what other issues do you have with the N4 Pro? However you do a great job in your review detail. And, .. Go Leafs!
N4 pro - current draw -only available in 3 channel mode -low battery protection is not good enough for newer vehicles. Have seen lots of customers buy it and have their battery die due to how their parking mode works. Hence why we don’t carry Vantrue. -The unit is big and many people pointed out to me on last video we did with it they could not believe I did not point out how big it is. -rear camera overheats and gives blurry image with hdr -parking mode is irrelevant without a battery pack -6 second impact detection - when you use parking mode it says in high heat please use impact detection. Same thing red tiger says. But 6 seconds after makes it a dash camera that needs improvements - i do feel it is a great UBER dash cam. With great 4k video quality while driving. - lastly when Vantrue asked me to review a different product in October. They asked me to buy it off Amazon. When I give it a 5 star review on Amazon they will send me money in return. Huge mistake. We dont do fake reviews and my trust for the company went to almost zero
Very, Very nice review. As you say, ones choice is driven by lifestyle, and frankly...the Vueroid is tops out of these four offerings. I always use a front camera for the rear, and as I mentioned to you previously, I extend the wiring with 18-3 from the battery side of the HK3 / 4 module so as to have the highest battery voltage possible at the rear of the Outback, which is where the module is. On these reviews, I stop the play quite often to compare the cameras. The Vueroid and Viofo are neck in neck with the Vueroid giving the best over all accuracy for the tunnel and most night scenes. Crossing the bridge and the Vueroid does a better job of showing the bridge cables, curvature, etc. Viofo is second on those images. I generally care less about parking mode. Face it, leave your car at the airport for two weeks and parking mode is useless after the first day. Parking mode is great for city life, parking on streets and parking lots for short periods of time but, it ends there. So, I put less emphasis on parking mode. Same for rear camera, a Starvis 2 is better for a rear camera but only if the full potential of the Starvis 2 is met. Unfortunately, that is not the case with Viofo and others. The Vueroid D21 will very likely be my next purchase but I will wait to see if they do firmware updates to increase parking mode frame rate. Not that I use PM religiously but, 1 fps is just too low and essentially useless, in my view. Thank you for the effort you put into these comparisons, your honesty in these comparisons is welcomed.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would, and I think it would be a good selling point for the D21. It is these simply little features that drive the value up for users. I like the the looks and feature of this D21 and can see putting one next to my front screen A229 Pro and do a comparison. I am still using a very reliable iPhone 7+ with ios 13.4.1 so I would need to make sure the Vuroid app would work for my phone. When I stop and start your comparison vid I take notice of screen placement for the cameras and adjust my evaluation based on that location, light refraction, screen, etc. and frankly, I will place the front camera D21 on par with the A229 Pro. The back camera is on par with other cameras of that resolution but in my case, I would put the main D21 on the rear screen also.
This video is soo detailed like wow hatss off !! I have elantra 2023 i need for driving and parking looking for a combo functionality.. tell me which one should i get?? Please
depends on how long you need it to work while parked? Short periods of time like 1 hour to 3 hours most dash cameras are fine. It is longer periods of parking where the Vueroid and thinkware Dash cameras take over.
@@jeshihaha414 That is where the Vueroid 2ma and Thinkware 10ma of current draw come in as they will last a very long time with minimal impact on your car battery.
Regarding downloading videos from the cams, they are not the same size, it`s obvious the 250M one will finish before the 430M. We don`t know the video size of the Vueroid and the Blackvue. Invalid comparison imho.
All video file sizes are listed. Watch again. Also Thinkware software will take same time to download whether video is 1 second, 30 seconds or 1 minute long. That is how their software works.
Great comprehensive video. My only criticism is that you didn’t really make a recommendation at the end, you punted. At the very least, you could have indicated which of the four would have satisfied your needs and explained why and then punted as to whichever met our own needs.
I think you’re looking for an influencer that collects affiliate commissions. That will tell you to buy the one they make the most from. Our main goal is to educate customers on the difference between the units and allow them to make a decision thats best for them.
@@SafeDriveSolutions No, I’m not looking for someone who is financially benefiting from his recommendations. To the contrary, I am looking for someone who not only presents the information (as you did), but helps digest all the technical information (which you did with your pro and con summary), and provides a recommendation (which was lacking). In other words, after you have conducted all these tests, which one would you get for your family car and why or better yet, which camera system do you have for your family car and why (what are your needs and which system best satisfies those needs). I believe you can make such a recommendation and be objective about it (particularly if you don’t receive any commissions for any sales your recommendations may generate). Keep in mind that your viewers do not all share your technical appreciation/knowledge and the amount of information you presented can be overwhelming to the uninitiated, so a professional recommendation is sometimes helpful. Imagine a client of yours asking you point blank, “okay, which camera system do you recommend and tell me why.”
the other reason why we try and stay impartial is because we do sell some of these products. But we do like to show how other products compare to the products we offer. Viofo A229 Pro we do find has better overall video quality. So if your focus is on driving that is what we recommend. If you want cloud/ lte dash camera Blackvue is best Best balance of parking mode and video quality is Vueroid D21 4K Because it has a 2ma impact only parking mode option so you can have it work for days in parking mode and not have to worry about battery For best parking mode options Thinkware U3000. Lacks video quality at night. However their radar parking mode beats out anyone who wants a motion detection dash camera while parked
I love your dedication for the dashcam reviews. Have been watching hours of your video because I just got my first car ever and want to have a decent dashcam. I have to do street parking frequently and my area is not really safe. The driveway where I will be parking most of the time has cameras so I will be using the energy saving mode, but when I take my car around and park, that's when I need the Parking mode the most. I'm thinking of the Vueroid D21 4k after this video because it has the best Energy Saving Mode. I was trying to find your review video for this one specifically to see how long it would be working without draining my car battery but I don't think you have one. Do you think I will need a Battery Packet for this dashcam since I will only be taking my car out about 2 to 3 times a week?
So in context you should not need a battery pack for using low power mode on the Vueroid. It only draws 2ma of current. Keep in mind everything depends on your battery still being in good condition. So in context I find most Viofo A229 pro will last 1 to 3 hours. so lets break this down 1 hour of a Viofo A229 Pro is approx 360ma of current in parking mode for 1 hour of recording. That means the Vueroid should last 180 times longer based on comparison. 360ma / 2ma = 180. 180 hours / 24 hours in a day 7.5 days. All based on your battery being in good condition. If you buy a used vehicle and the battery is 10 years old. It probably needs to be changed on the vehicle.
@@SafeDriveSolutions also, do you have a review video for vueroid d21 4k with Parking mode? I don't think you mention this in this video for motion/impact detection
@@SafeDriveSolutions Awesome. Do you have a time to have the video on air? Also I was trying to place an order on your website but it's saying "available on backorder" and "May 25 ETA". Do you know what does it mean?
Video is in production right now. We are waiting for Vueroid order to land. Should land close to that date. We did not expect to sell out so quickly. You can preorder and when we have stock again we will ship.
Re the Blackvue manual recording - are you sure you’re supposed to smack it like that? I have it and simply use one finger to touch it like a phone's screen. Works for me with no issues so far. If you have audio notifications enabled it will say manual recording on, so you know it got the message.
Well done mate, the new vueroid looks interesting! Viofo is the winner for me with high quality sensors, cpl filters and parking mode with hard wiring kit. No finevu this time?
I currently have an older Pruveeo C2 dash cam (circa 2017-2018) that I have been using in my car. It shoots pretty decent footage during the day (at 1080p 60fps), but it can't record worth anything at night! I can barely make out the road directly in front of my car that the headlights illuminate and reflections from road signs, but that's about it. (And the road signs are so overdeveloped that you can't read what they say anyways, they just show up as bright blobs of light on the side of the road.) The suction cup windshield mount finally completely broke on my Pruveeo dash cam, so now I'm in the market for a new dash cam. (And hopefully one that can be hardwired into the car, since I've had issues with the cigarette lighter plug on my old Pruveeo dash cam. If you hit a big bump or pothole in the road, sometimes it causes the cigarette lighter plug to momentarily lose power, which annoyingly immediately shuts off the dash camera and causes it to reboot! So, you would lose about 15-20 seconds of recording while the dash cam restarted and started recording again.) Anyways, I know dash cameras have come a LONG way in the past 6-7 years since I bought my Pruveeo dash cam, but I'm still looking for the BEST image quality I can find from a dash cam both during the day and at night. Honestly, the 4K video quality seems almost more like a gimmick than anything as even recording videos on my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra phone, I can barely see ANY difference in the video quality recording in 4K vs 1080p mode! I have watched 4K videos side by side with 1080p videos on both my 27" LG Ultragear 2K 144Hz IPS gaming monitors and on my LG 65" IPS 4K smart TV and there is a negligible difference in the video quality between them. (And to view the 1080p video on a 2K monitor or 4K TV, it is upsampling the video and it's still not really distorting or pixelating the image at all...) About the ONLY difference is the 4K video has a MUCH larger file size, obviously, so you can record much less video footage per GB on a memory card compared to 1080p. So, I usually record videos in 1080p at 60fps to get silky smooth videos with a relatively low file size compared with recording 4K videos at only 30fps. If anything, I think having a 4K (or even 8K) camera may just have a much higher Megapixel image sensor so it records MUCH higher quality video than the older 1080p cameras did, so if you have a newer 4K camera and record it in 1080p format instead of 4K, I think the 1080p video will come out looking as good as the 4K video with just a much smaller file size! The ONLY real difference you might notice is if you try to zoom way in on a certain part of the video to see fine details, obviously the 4K video will look better and be less pixelated than the 1080p video will be, just because there is 4 times as much pixel information saved in each frame in the 4K video compared to the 1080p video. From watching your video as well as several other comparison videos on RUclips that I have found, I seem to be leaning more towards either the Viofo A229 Pro or the Thinkware U3000. Honestly though, sometimes the Blackvue video footage looks better during the day, but then it looks like it does a terrible job recording at night in low light. The same thing with the new Vueroid camera. I honestly thought that all around, the Vueroid seemed to have the best looking video during the day and even in the tunnel test, the white balance seemed the best and the video footage looked the most natural. The video from the other 3 cameras looked much more yellow during the tunnel test, especially when you first drove into the tunnel. By the time you were driving out of the tunnel, the Viofo, Thinkware, and Blackvue cameras finally kind of "caught up" to the Vueroid and the video footage looked less yellow and was a bit more natural looking. However, again, I think the Vueroid kind of fell on its face when shooting nighttime footage. Also, the rear camera is only 1080p and it is using an older Sony sensor, so the rear camera footage looks terrible! So, unless there are any newer models that have come out that are significantly better by any of these manufacturers (or any other manufacturers that you haven't reviewed yet...), I still think that I'm leaning more towards the Thinkware U3000, but the Viofo A229 Pro is still a VERY close second based on its overall video quality and some of its features. But I also really like the radar parking mode of the Thinkware U3000, even if it would probably be going off all the time and constantly recording videos for no reason if you park in a busy parking garage or on a busy street. I think the fastest impact detection and recording functionality would actually be the best for long-term parking security. Either way, it seems that except for quick trips to the store, you would need a pretty sizeable external battery backup for the dash cam if you wanted to use the dash cam as a parking security system for when you are parked somewhere all day long.
I think you have to take another look at the night time footage. Too many people are looking at bright contrast and associating that with great video quality. ruclips.net/video/w8QYkzrMIX4/видео.html look at the street signs at night, boards as you drive by.
Hello, Great canadian channel. I am waiting for a comparison between the Vantrue N5 (and N4 Pro) and the Viofo A229 Pro. I feel like these would/ should be the best based on hardware. It’s my understanding that the Viofo maintains the 4K resolution while in 3 channel mode, and that the Vantrue loses its resolution in more than 1 channel mode. I think the Viofo has HDR on the front and rear too, so I anticipate the Viofo may be better than the Vantrue series, despite the 4 channel set up with the N5. Can you please clarify on camera resolution vs sensor resolution? I highly value being able to snag license plates. Bonus capability is parking mode, capturing a hit and run, and not killing my battery.
I would go with Viofo A229 Pro over either of those 2 units. For many reasons. 1. Viofo has 2 K STARVIS 2 rear camera. Vantrue has 1080p rear. 2. Viofo has timer on parking mode and Vantrue does not. 3. There is more flexibility with locating the interior camera on Viofo A229 Pro as it is not attached to main unit. If you want parking mode on any of these units I would get a battery pack Vantrue N4 Pro does not lose resolution when going from 1,2, or 3 channel mode. The N5 I am not sure. Overall Vantrue is a good camera but still has a few improvements to make to catch up to Viofo.
Your video is very informative. Quick question as to dash cam. My Camry came with backup cam. If I purchase dash cam two channels will that affect my stock backup can?
Customer service in general is a challenge nowadays. We do offer full support to our clients on the products we offer at Safe Drive Solutions. We prefer customers deal directly with us as we install the product, sell the product, and use the product everyday. We also try and align ourselves with brands that give customer service. However where they lack we do try and make videos to help educate and allow customers to troubleshoot on their own as well.
@@SafeDriveSolutions Thanks, I did some more digging and found that the forward camera sensor a Sony Starvis IMX335. It seems this Sony sensor has a maximum resolution of 2560×1440, which is also known 2K (1440p). So I agree with you that the Redtiger F7N is not at true 4K camera. It also appears that the REDTIGER F7NP dashcam records in 4K Ultra HD (3840*2160P) resolution for the front camera and Full HD 1080P for the rear camera. Can you verify my findings?
This is so ggod it got me more confused, LOL. I saw some with separated videos with 3 way products for internal camera, perhaps a "post credits" video with this option? Also missing Vantrue, is it not good? Thank you.
Great comparison video, thanks. In the current draw table, the numbers for the U3000 and the A229 Pro don't match what you showed in a previous video - How motion detection Works, why, where did the numbers come from in this table?
Thinkware u3000 has 2 forms of motion detection. -motion detection - radar mode Also i only tested front cameras in that video that you are referring to
as for U3000 having the lower parking mode draw in the radar mode, that's great, but like you said, in a busy parking lot it's going to be constantly triggered, so the current draw is going to be a lot more than the 14mA spec. This almost gives the win for parking mode draw to the newcomer-the D21 I would think.
Do you think the location of each camera on the windshield impacts their ability to pick up LPs when driving past either the left or right? I know it's impossible to avoid that, but seeing where each was on the glass could be cool
Great video Ben. My Thinkware U3000 is outstanding for what I need it for. Do you recommend using the polarizing filter that comes with the unit? Thanks
Was hoping Vantrue N4 Pro would be part of this video to see a nice comparison with all of these. There was one random video comparison of Vantrue N4 Pro but no other details. Great video tho
The download speed test was in no way an equal test. Your file sizes for the D21 4K and U3000 were less than half the file sizes for the other two. Absolutely they would download faster. That's a no brainer. The question is why the files sizes are different. if it was the same drive recording for all four, then some manipulation was done to the video file by both the D21 and U3000 to reduce the file size. Was it compressed by the cam? Was the resolution cut down? What format was each cam video file? Was this only 1 dash cam say front only or a combination of multiple dash cams front, rear, internal views etc for the Viofo and Blackvue cams. It's kind of misleading to not specify your parameters or make absolute sure you have the same settings on all four cams brands you are testing. It means nothing to test download speed when the files sizes are not nearly identical.
The interior of my car gets as high as 160 Fahrenheit, I live in deep south Texas, any recommendations for a dash cam ? I'm looking for a 2 channel dash cam.
Hey my RUclips colleague, very very good Video and much Information with very fair Comment from you. Iam searching for a Cam wich have 4G /LTE Module. What about the Thinkware Dashcam T700 ? Or i think i have to wait for a Thinkware Dashcam with integrated 4G/LET Module. How much electicity (mA) need the Telekom Hotspot UBD Module ? The 710 may have it with the U04 Kit but the electicity with acitvated Motion detection wirh 450 mA the whole Time, is to high and the Battery was fast low. Greetings from Germany. Olli
@@SafeDriveSolutions I think the Thinkware U3000 was perfect for me, when it has: HDR and 4g/LTE Modul. Is this planned ; do you know about somethink ?
I heard the Thinkware rear cam radar isn’t ideal for SUVs with a vertical rear window because you can’t adjust where the radar is pointing. Apparently it works best for sedans with angled windows, is that true?
Great video. I’m going with the viofo a229. Do you have thoughts on the whether or not the CPL addition to the lens is necessary? Did you record the viofo 229 pro with or without the optional CPL lens? Thanks for your content
All your phones were on 5G cell signals during the download except the Blackview which was on WiFi. So this isn’t a fair and accurate example of download speed. 2:58
N4 pro - current draw -only available in 3 channel mode -low battery protection is not good enough for newer vehicles. Have seen lots of customers buy it and have their battery die due to how their parking mode works. Hence why we don’t carry Vantrue. -The unit is big and many people pointed out to me on last video we did with it they could not believe I did not point out how big it is. -rear camera overheats and gives blurry image with hdr -parking mode is irrelevant without a battery pack -6 second impact detection - when you use parking mode it says in high heat please use impact detection. Same thing red tiger says. But 6 seconds after makes it a dash camera that needs improvements - i do feel it is a great UBER dash cam. With great 4k video quality while driving. - lastly when Vantrue asked me to review a different product in October. They asked me to buy it off Amazon. When I give it a 5 star review on Amazon they will send me money in return. Huge mistake. We dont do fake reviews and my trust for the company went to almost zero
Thank you so much for this video! Did you see somewhere what is the bitrate of the Viofo A229 Pro? I am thinking about buying one, but the high endurance SD cards write speed of 40 mb/s seems not enough for me :( Are those SD cards capable of saving the 4k video properly?
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would buy that, but those are not available to sale in Hungary, in some of your videos you mentioned the Sandisk High/Max Endurances are really good and durable SD cards and I was thinking about buying one of those, but with 40 mb/s writing speed I am not sure. Without Viofo SD cards maybe a 4k dashcam is not worth it? (I saw that Sandisk Extreme does 130mb/s, but it was not made for dashcams, so I would not risk it)
@@wdjs2 you can order extension cables for Viofo A229 Pro. I have a 10 metre in stock. Not sure if you need longer but I think they have some longer options available.
How is the viofo mounted? I have tinted windows, tint strip on front windowshield and back window has heated lines across it. Don't like the idea of adhesive on the tint especially with how hot it gets in the sunmer. I've seen some dash cams with static stickers and the adhesive on the cam mounts on the sticker instead.
do you have an individual review of the Vueroid D21 4K? Do you know if it handles high temps well? I was leaning towards the U3000 for the parking mode options but this one looks great too and at a cheaper price.
We will try and put out an individual review soon. Have not tested heat yet. Most Korean brands Thinkware, IROAD, and etc have been great in high heat.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would love to see a manual for the D21 4K, Vueroid does not have one listed on their site yet, do you have any info for resolutions, frame rates, etc? Hopefully Vueroid gets a manual published quickly, I would like to read it before I purchase. :)
You failed to mention the file sizes for the download speed that were different for each camera! The last 2 cameras had file sizes 3 times that of the first. So that must mean that the Vueroid D21 didn't record that much video info. Sounds potato to me!
Does the Veuroid provide impact push notifications? Or any models for that matter except the Thinkware, even if it’s just an LED or something on the device?
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Look at the front view of the BlackVue around 4:15-14:20 On other 3 dashcams there is an airplane flying from the right to the left above the bridge but that airplane is not visible in anyway on the Blackvue images. !!!! What the heck is their filtering/image processing mode?
Well, when I turn my car on the camera keeps repeating: blackvue for safety driving, hot spots not available. It doesn’t stop, and I can’t lower the volume using the app. I just want another camera that’s reliable. I called Blackvue and there’s nobody there to answer the phone. After a long waiting I gave up on them. It’s not the first time I try to reach a live person and no success
@@fernandolucas7780 i have to ask. have you tried a new SD card? That seems to be the culprit for a lot of dash cameras. Have you tried the cigarette lighter cable t o see if there is a power issue? Have you tried formatting the memory card?
I was told once to format the SD card and still doesn’t fix the issue. I just bought another Blackvue dash cam yesterday but I’m returning it today because I know I won’t be able to reach costumer service if I need. I tried twice today and couldn’t get a hold on anyone there
At 16:35 did you decide that the thinkware was no longer a good product so you picked up a Vantrue N4 Pro? This really stands out. Also, your download comparison wasn't a good/accurate representation of capability. The Vueroid had the highest throughput at 13.64 MB/s, the Viofo second at 9.78 MB/s, Thinkware in third with 8.56 MB/s and Blackvue in last with 5.8 MB/s.
No I knew people were going to ask where was Vantrue N4 Pro. So I included it in video comparison footage. I have had a lot of videos on Thinkware night capability over the last 9 months. I even have video of U3000 vs these units as well just not in this video. I feel the download comparison was great which I already mentioned in comments. Thinkware will take same amount of time whether the file is 1 second long or 30 seconds or a minute. That is how their software works. What most customers care about is time it takes to download a video file. I will be testing if there is any improvements when changing video on Viofo from maximum to normal.
What post processing do you use before rendering your video for youtube? I have the Viofo a229 pro, and my videos look nothing like yours. They are grainy (yes, resolutuon is set to 4k, 30fps) and far too sharp, like it needs anti aliasing.
Get the latest firmware and that will fix a lot of issues. However, the biggest thing is to have a video viewer that is optioned to handle 4k. The incorrect, or mis-optioned video player, or graphic card plays a big hand in image quality as well.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I wish I could afford a Mac Studio 😀 . I moved from Windows to Linux Debian about two years ago, however, I did have a nice tax return this year so maybe I should put a Mac Studio on my desk.
It sounds like some of the dashcams were using Bluetooth instead of WiFi. It would be interesting to turn off Bluetooth on your phone and see if things speed up.
@@SafeDriveSolutions Sorry. That question came to mind while watching your file transfer test, and some dashcams took far longer than others. In IT networks, when we see wildly different performances between devices connected in the same manner, it can turn out that the device is taking an unexpected route.
I’m looking for a max security camera. What would you recommend? Would love to have at least a 3-channel or ways to record multiple angles and not just the front and back
@@SafeDriveSolutions not that much but eventually would like to use the vehicle for ride share and deliveries. While parked, I may just need it to activate when impact detected or close motion detection
Sorry mate I am confused. I am from Australia and which one you recommend it for me? I want 4k and park mode it’s important for me with great plate resolution and be sure 24 hours recording.
If you get a battery pack it opens up all thge dash cameras to the potential of 24 hours recording. If you dont want a battery pack then the U3000 and Vueroid D21 4K are only good options due to their low current draw options.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I'm planning to purchase a battery pack. Today, I contacted the person who does installations, and he informed me that since my car is a 2023 Ford Puma and its battery is too small, I'll need to buy additional hardware. He quoted me $400 just for the battery. Could you please help me find the exact item and model for a battery pack in Australia? Plus what exact model for dashtcam is your recommendation based on on your experience. Please that’s a big help
It all depends on what challenge you are trying to solve. Do you want it to work while driving? while parked? mix of both? do you want Cloud? no cloud? lots of variables.
WTF! Every one of them have different file sizes, so yes, a150 MB file will download a lot faster than a 257MB, 450 MB and 464 MB file? So, what is your deal here?
Read the comments. We made another video addressing this with 8-4k dash cameras. How Quick Can You Download Dash Cam Videos to your phone? ruclips.net/video/ghlnCJRJ0cQ/видео.html
You really spent an incredible amount of time on this and did a fantastic job. Bravo!
Thanks.
Fantastic video. There is no perfect dash cam and I would love to combine features from each to make the perfect one. Take the Viofo A229 Pro Image Quality, take the Thinkware U3000 Radar Parking Mode, Take Blackvues DR970X Plus form factor and more importantly their Cloud Features (with the U3000 4K upload to cloud quality) and I would have my near perfect system :)
One suggestion. Since they all have different files sizes during the download test, I would divide the file size by the time to see which has the best download rate to make it all equal.
Yes i wish there was one that had all the features but still. What next heat issues? Or how big will it be?
Best download rate is still Vueroid #1, viofo #2, thinkware #3, Blackvue #4 if you want to go by that.
At end of the day our customers tend to care how long it takes to download a video to their phone. Thinkware will take same time whether video is 1 second long or 30 seconds or 1 minute. Which is weird but that is how their software works.
I will verify if Viofo works same way
Excellent work Ben,
You are killing it with the comparison videos.
I appreciate the time you took making revisions to make the video as accurate as possible.
-Chuck
Thanks Chuck. I appreciate your feedback
Great job in comparing these dash cameras - it looks like the Vueroid D21 has the best recording for license plates and overall being able to read signs.
There is no better comparison video than this!!! Simply outstanding!!! Could you please do comparison on Rear mirror view dash cam concepts please???!!! Thanks a lot in advance!!!
Until the next one comes out.....
@@SafeDriveSolutions Do you have such videos on your channel already? I cannot find any
@@WIZEMART we do not have any rear view mirror comparison. Oddly enough everytime we find someone who wants us to review a mirror dash camera. They are willing to send me one. Then all of sudden they want us to order products to send a sample. Hopefully in the future.
Really appreciate the effort you put in these comparison videos. It really helps the buyer decide which one to go for.
Our goal is to educate.
Excellent comparison, the best I have seen. Keep it up.
Glad you liked it!
Very well done review!
More A229 PROs:
1) One can add Interior Camera later if bought 2CH.
2) CPL filter exists for Front & Rear.
3) DashCam can be connected directly to Mobile using C type to C type Cable for faster data copying and firmware upgrade.
4) VIOFO app can be installed in almost all Car player/Android player so one can watch live preview in it instead of mobile.
4) never heard of this. Oh you mean android afternarket radio??
Or do as I did if only a 2 channel front/interior is needed, order directly from Viofo and request the front camera with the interior camera being substituted for the rear camera.
Yes, one can install Viofo app on almost any Android system and use it to watch live preview instead of watching on mobile. Try it and include it on any of your future videos.
@@crutchclargowe actually offer it this way just not on our website.
@@SafeDriveSolutions That is good news, I was not aware of that! Many people just want a front and interior setup, and could care less about the rear camera. I would prefer to buy from you as you are more local to me.
This is the video I'm looking for. Awesome work!
Thanks
Love the video! See you Thursday for the install :)
Can't wait!
Wow! this truly the ultimate 4K dashcam comparison! Thanks for making this very useful video!
your welcome
Thanks for your review, viofo is developing the V1.3 version for A229 pro, will bring more features, and still keep optimizing the image quality.
Thanks for the info!
where did you get that Info?
@@xXxtremeboy2 he works for Viofo
Hardware or firmware version?
I'll keep my eye out for it.
The A229 looks like a winner, the resolution is really great.
They all have benefits for each lifestyle. 😀
@@SafeDriveSolutions Is the A229 the same as the A139 pro as far as image quality?
for front camera I feel so. Rear camera though is improved on A229 Pro
@TimSmith-db1iu
A229 is 4k front and 2k rear (both starvis 2 sensor)
While A139 is 2k front and I don't think it's starvis 2 both front and rear
Best review ever. Your time and effort appreciated .
Thanks
Well done Ben. This is a nice one. Watching from Uganda 🇺🇬
Thanks for watching
Great job taking the time reviewing all these dashcams ! Blackvue has also no HDR, another con :(
From what i hear that is correct. But I could not confirm
Great vid like always. I'm glad another new company join the dashcam world more compilation the better. 15:50 Manual recording for blackvue is one of many things i find inconsistent with them I would just smack the camera to save a clip lol. As much i like dashcams but they still have a long way to come
Yeah it was quite irritating their manual recording
Oh yes, well done on this video !!! Excellent layout
Thanks
A nice video, thanks 👍👍 I have been doing a lot of research and I will be going with the Viofo A229 Pro.
Good choice!
I have the viofo a119 mini 2 and a139 pro in my cars. They’re great, but beware the GPS wont work if you have tint that contains metal on your windshield. The A119 mini 2 froze twice in the one year I’ve owned it. Restarted the camera and everything was fine. It hasnt frozen since I updated the firmware. The 139 pro has been flawless. The apps is simple and user friendly, and file transfer is pretty quick when connected to the 5GHz wifi. Image quality is excellent, even the a119 mini. And it’s not too picky about SD card choices. I used to have Blackvue dashcams, and they’re very particular about what SD card we use. But there’s one thing that the Blackvue impressed me about. It’s very durable. My first blackvue, the DR590W, was on my car for 6 years, and the only issue I had was with the battery, which made the the date and time settings went awry, but that was fixable with a little soldering. And it didnt affect the dashcam’s performance. I gave that dashcam to a friend, and it’s still running flawlessly today.
glad to hear
Great video Ben, very detailed and very helpful 😊
Glad it was helpful!
this is amazing and extremely helpful! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the very informative video!
Question: The power consumption while in time-lapse mode of the Viofo was the highest, but so was its frame rate (10fps). Does the power consumption decrease with a lower frame rate, like 3fps or 2fps?
No it does not decrease with lower frame rate.
The problem with these cameras is that even at 4K recording quality still it is impossible to see license plate numbers. You need to be very close from 7 to 10 feet away from the car in order to read the license plate numbers. If the license plate numbers are not legible you have 0 chance to win the case in court.
You need to document the license plate of the car, date, time, place, make and color of the car. All this info should be recorded by the camera.
are you watching this in 4K? just have to ask becasue in a lower eresolution it will probably look like that and YouTunbe does not always defaulyt to 4K
The Viofo now has a telephoto camera addon that can take place of the rear camera. It will do just that.
Best dashcam comparison review channel on YT! For the download speed test wouldnt the comparison be better if it wssnt based on 1 minute video but nearly same file size or download average mb/s?
Here is a nee revised speed teat video
How Quick Can You Download Dash Cam Videos to your phone?
ruclips.net/video/ghlnCJRJ0cQ/видео.html
Im sharing this channel with others. Great presentation 12/10!
Very good video. I consider that starting from 2023 people should understand that there are two types of dashcams: with HDR and without HDR. In 2024 I would not buy a dashcam without HDR.
I know from many years that the people are paying more money on a dashcam because of night footage. During day there are no major difference between a cheap dashcam (for example Viofo A119) and an expensive dashcam like Blackvue or Thinkware.
The power of HDR is at night and for reading the registration plates and in this video you didn't covered this.
I hope in the future video you will make a car license plates legibility comparison and the best for all people is to wait for the Viofo telephoto camera. Also you can compare a normal lens with a telephoto lens but the most important thing is to show the power of the HDR because without HDR even a telephoto lens will not capture license plates at night.
In this video was no evidence about HDR superiority and people can think that HDR is just a marketing logo good for nothing but to ask for more money. No, HDR is one of the best achievements in dashcam history.
License plates are covered in this video. We did not cover license plates at night in this video. Mainly because we had reshot the video 3 times because the blackvue manual recording feature was acting up so it was not locking videos while driving for us to easily find and get when back in the office. License plates is also very time consuming when comes to video editing. We have future videos coming up where we will include. HDR is shown in many of our videos and explained in many of our videos.
Stating no evidence of HDR superiority is not a proper statement. The tunnel test alone shows HDR superiority, driving at night their HDR examples.
If you are looking for this type of video ruclips.net/video/mUCFKHQ_ims/видео.html where we go over video examples. We will be doing a little more of this in the future.
But there are many dashcams with HDR that are low quality. HDR does not make a dash camera good. Integrating HDR correctly will give good video quality, at night, during the day in sunlight, driving through a tunnel and how quick it adapts going in and coming out. That is true HDR. most people think it is only driving for night and that is a common misunderstanding.
By the way i subscribed I will be watching your video soon.
@@SafeDriveSolutions Excellent response, Ben. Well thought out and informative. I agree with you, it is definitely more how the manufacturer implements the HDR functionality on the camera than if the camera just has it or not that will depend on how good the video quality will be. I have an old Pruveeo C2 dash cam (circa 2017-2018) that supposedly has HDR (or, more accurately, I believe WDR...) and I have that feature on all the time. It shoots pretty decent footage during the day (at 1080p 60fps), but it can't record worth anything at night! I can barely make out the road directly in front of my car that the headlights illuminate and reflections from road signs, but that's about it. (And the road signs are so overdeveloped that you can't read what they say anyways, they just show up as bright blobs of light on the side of the road.)
Amazing Vid. Setting a very wanted trend
Keep up the good work. I got the A139 pro because I was looking for the best image quality and license plate readability with only front recording and I hope hope they keep the firmware updates at the same standard as the A229 pro.
I do hope they make firmware updating much easier for future dashcams though, because playing with sd cards for that is just 2010 and not 2024.
Yes i prefer over the air updates. A139 pro has been solid unit. We will see if they come out with their add on soon for a139 pro 😊
Very informative, glad to come across your channel. One feature I have yet to see on dash cams are live recordings of you car when parked. Do you know of any security car cams that have a feature where you can monitor your car live (on phone app) while parked. Thank you!
Best 4K Cloud Dash Cam Thinkware U3000 vs Blackvue DR970X Plus LTE?
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Great in depth video. no nightime rear cam footage?
Ha Ha I guess not. Maybe next time
Love, love looooove your energy, knowledge, honesty and deducation you put into your content. I was looking for my first dash camera and surely assured you helped me make my decision. I have ordered the Viofo A229PRO 3CH and am excited as a child waiting for a Christmas present, hehe... studying my internal fuse box for an appropriate spot. Now, I am looking into a power pack to prolong that parking mode time, any recommendations? Thanks in advance 🙂
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Ben, understand you cannot review ALL dashcams in a single vid, but the omission of the Vantrue N4 Pro is clearly an oversight. As you pointed out in a previous vid, the 5-6 sec. delay on impact in Parking Mode is a weakness, agreed. However this unit's night clarity if second to none, and with the proper hard wire kit the parking mode Voltage/Timer can be set to prevent battery drain. So many other options as well including a nice sharp viewing screen which one can turn off if you find it distracting. But nice to have as an option. Sorry but any review of the Best 4K dashcams should include the N4 Pro to be an honest review. Otherwise you are omitting a great dashcam for consideration by your viewers. Other than the parking mode recording delay, what other issues do you have with the N4 Pro? However you do a great job in your review detail. And, .. Go Leafs!
N4 pro
- current draw
-only available in 3 channel mode
-low battery protection is not good enough for newer vehicles. Have seen lots of customers buy it and have their battery die due to how their parking mode works. Hence why we don’t carry Vantrue.
-The unit is big and many people pointed out to me on last video we did with it they could not believe I did not point out how big it is.
-rear camera overheats and gives blurry image with hdr
-parking mode is irrelevant without a battery pack
-6 second impact detection
- when you use parking mode it says in high heat please use impact detection. Same thing red tiger says. But 6 seconds after makes it a dash camera that needs improvements
- i do feel it is a great UBER dash cam. With great 4k video quality while driving.
- lastly when Vantrue asked me to review a different product in October. They asked me to buy it off Amazon. When I give it a 5 star review on Amazon they will send me money in return. Huge mistake. We dont do fake reviews and my trust for the company went to almost zero
@@SafeDriveSolutions All reasons why I'll NOT buy any VanTrue product.
Awesome job man! Excellent information!
Thank You
Very, Very nice review. As you say, ones choice is driven by lifestyle, and frankly...the Vueroid is tops out of these four offerings. I always use a front camera for the rear, and as I mentioned to you previously, I extend the wiring with 18-3 from the battery side of the HK3 / 4 module so as to have the highest battery voltage possible at the rear of the Outback, which is where the module is. On these reviews, I stop the play quite often to compare the cameras. The Vueroid and Viofo are neck in neck with the Vueroid giving the best over all accuracy for the tunnel and most night scenes. Crossing the bridge and the Vueroid does a better job of showing the bridge cables, curvature, etc. Viofo is second on those images.
I generally care less about parking mode. Face it, leave your car at the airport for two weeks and parking mode is useless after the first day. Parking mode is great for city life, parking on streets and parking lots for short periods of time but, it ends there. So, I put less emphasis on parking mode. Same for rear camera, a Starvis 2 is better for a rear camera but only if the full potential of the Starvis 2 is met. Unfortunately, that is not the case with Viofo and others.
The Vueroid D21 will very likely be my next purchase but I will wait to see if they do firmware updates to increase parking mode frame rate. Not that I use PM religiously but, 1 fps is just too low and essentially useless, in my view.
Thank you for the effort you put into these comparisons, your honesty in these comparisons is welcomed.
Thanks for your feedback. They recently did an update on bitrate of rear camera.
You would like to see more time lapse options?
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would, and I think it would be a good selling point for the D21. It is these simply little features that drive the value up for users. I like the the looks and feature of this D21 and can see putting one next to my front screen A229 Pro and do a comparison. I am still using a very reliable iPhone 7+ with ios 13.4.1 so I would need to make sure the Vuroid app would work for my phone.
When I stop and start your comparison vid I take notice of screen placement for the cameras and adjust my evaluation based on that location, light refraction, screen, etc. and frankly, I will place the front camera D21 on par with the A229 Pro. The back camera is on par with other cameras of that resolution but in my case, I would put the main D21 on the rear screen also.
This video is soo detailed like wow hatss off !! I have elantra 2023 i need for driving and parking looking for a combo functionality.. tell me which one should i get?? Please
depends on how long you need it to work while parked? Short periods of time like 1 hour to 3 hours most dash cameras are fine. It is longer periods of parking where the Vueroid and thinkware Dash cameras take over.
Thank you so much for your reply. I was looking for a longer period.
@@jeshihaha414 That is where the Vueroid 2ma and Thinkware 10ma of current draw come in as they will last a very long time with minimal impact on your car battery.
@@SafeDriveSolutions perfect getting them today thank you so much
Regarding downloading videos from the cams, they are not the same size, it`s obvious the 250M one will finish before the 430M. We don`t know the video size of the Vueroid and the Blackvue. Invalid comparison imho.
All video file sizes are listed. Watch again. Also Thinkware software will take same time to download whether video is 1 second, 30 seconds or 1 minute long. That is how their software works.
Nice video as usual. Just letting you know that you showed the Vantrue N4 pro in the nighttime footage instead of the Thinkware.
Yes we did that purposely.
Oh ok. So is Thinkware nighttime comparable to Vueroid? I’m debating between the two. I just which they had a third channel for the in cab footage
Vueroid is better at night because it has HDR.
Great comprehensive video. My only criticism is that you didn’t really make a recommendation at the end, you punted. At the very least, you could have indicated which of the four would have satisfied your needs and explained why and then punted as to whichever met our own needs.
I think you’re looking for an influencer that collects affiliate commissions. That will tell you to buy the one they make the most from. Our main goal is to educate customers on the difference between the units and allow them to make a decision thats best for them.
@@SafeDriveSolutions No, I’m not looking for someone who is financially benefiting from his recommendations. To the contrary, I am looking for someone who not only presents the information (as you did), but helps digest all the technical information (which you did with your pro and con summary), and provides a recommendation (which was lacking). In other words, after you have conducted all these tests, which one would you get for your family car and why or better yet, which camera system do you have for your family car and why (what are your needs and which system best satisfies those needs). I believe you can make such a recommendation and be objective about it (particularly if you don’t receive any commissions for any sales your recommendations may generate). Keep in mind that your viewers do not all share your technical appreciation/knowledge and the amount of information you presented can be overwhelming to the uninitiated, so a professional recommendation is sometimes helpful. Imagine a client of yours asking you point blank, “okay, which camera system do you recommend and tell me why.”
the other reason why we try and stay impartial is because we do sell some of these products. But we do like to show how other products compare to the products we offer.
Viofo A229 Pro we do find has better overall video quality. So if your focus is on driving that is what we recommend.
If you want cloud/ lte dash camera
Blackvue is best
Best balance of parking mode and video quality is
Vueroid D21 4K
Because it has a 2ma impact only parking mode option so you can have it work for days in parking mode and not have to worry about battery
For best parking mode options
Thinkware U3000. Lacks video quality at night. However their radar parking mode beats out anyone who wants a motion detection dash camera while parked
I love your dedication for the dashcam reviews. Have been watching hours of your video because I just got my first car ever and want to have a decent dashcam. I have to do street parking frequently and my area is not really safe. The driveway where I will be parking most of the time has cameras so I will be using the energy saving mode, but when I take my car around and park, that's when I need the Parking mode the most. I'm thinking of the Vueroid D21 4k after this video because it has the best Energy Saving Mode. I was trying to find your review video for this one specifically to see how long it would be working without draining my car battery but I don't think you have one. Do you think I will need a Battery Packet for this dashcam since I will only be taking my car out about 2 to 3 times a week?
So in context you should not need a battery pack for using low power mode on the Vueroid. It only draws 2ma of current. Keep in mind everything depends on your battery still being in good condition. So in context I find most Viofo A229 pro will last 1 to 3 hours. so lets break this down 1 hour of a Viofo A229 Pro is approx 360ma of current in parking mode for 1 hour of recording. That means the Vueroid should last 180 times longer based on comparison. 360ma / 2ma = 180. 180 hours / 24 hours in a day 7.5 days. All based on your battery being in good condition. If you buy a used vehicle and the battery is 10 years old. It probably needs to be changed on the vehicle.
@@SafeDriveSolutions also, do you have a review video for vueroid d21 4k with Parking mode? I don't think you mention this in this video for motion/impact detection
no full review yet. Working on a full comparison with viofo a229 pro.
It has time lapse, motion detection and low power mode
@@SafeDriveSolutions Awesome. Do you have a time to have the video on air? Also I was trying to place an order on your website but it's saying "available on backorder" and "May 25 ETA". Do you know what does it mean?
Video is in production right now. We are waiting for Vueroid order to land. Should land close to that date. We did not expect to sell out so quickly. You can preorder and when we have stock again we will ship.
Thank you for the good work and nice video. Have you tested the FineVu GX1000?
I did before. I have a GX35 and a GX4k coming up soon
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Re the Blackvue manual recording - are you sure you’re supposed to smack it like that?
I have it and simply use one finger to touch it like a phone's screen. Works for me with no issues so far.
If you have audio notifications enabled it will say manual recording on, so you know it got the message.
I was tapping it normally while driving. The video was for dramatic effect. Either way it has been acting up lots
@@SafeDriveSolutions Might be a defective unit. Hopefully mine keeps working and doesn’t start acting up.
Well done mate, the new vueroid looks interesting! Viofo is the winner for me with high quality sensors, cpl filters and parking mode with hard wiring kit. No finevu this time?
We have a Fine Vu GX4K. It will be appearing soon.
I currently have an older Pruveeo C2 dash cam (circa 2017-2018) that I have been using in my car. It shoots pretty decent footage during the day (at 1080p 60fps), but it can't record worth anything at night! I can barely make out the road directly in front of my car that the headlights illuminate and reflections from road signs, but that's about it. (And the road signs are so overdeveloped that you can't read what they say anyways, they just show up as bright blobs of light on the side of the road.) The suction cup windshield mount finally completely broke on my Pruveeo dash cam, so now I'm in the market for a new dash cam. (And hopefully one that can be hardwired into the car, since I've had issues with the cigarette lighter plug on my old Pruveeo dash cam. If you hit a big bump or pothole in the road, sometimes it causes the cigarette lighter plug to momentarily lose power, which annoyingly immediately shuts off the dash camera and causes it to reboot! So, you would lose about 15-20 seconds of recording while the dash cam restarted and started recording again.) Anyways, I know dash cameras have come a LONG way in the past 6-7 years since I bought my Pruveeo dash cam, but I'm still looking for the BEST image quality I can find from a dash cam both during the day and at night.
Honestly, the 4K video quality seems almost more like a gimmick than anything as even recording videos on my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra phone, I can barely see ANY difference in the video quality recording in 4K vs 1080p mode! I have watched 4K videos side by side with 1080p videos on both my 27" LG Ultragear 2K 144Hz IPS gaming monitors and on my LG 65" IPS 4K smart TV and there is a negligible difference in the video quality between them. (And to view the 1080p video on a 2K monitor or 4K TV, it is upsampling the video and it's still not really distorting or pixelating the image at all...) About the ONLY difference is the 4K video has a MUCH larger file size, obviously, so you can record much less video footage per GB on a memory card compared to 1080p. So, I usually record videos in 1080p at 60fps to get silky smooth videos with a relatively low file size compared with recording 4K videos at only 30fps.
If anything, I think having a 4K (or even 8K) camera may just have a much higher Megapixel image sensor so it records MUCH higher quality video than the older 1080p cameras did, so if you have a newer 4K camera and record it in 1080p format instead of 4K, I think the 1080p video will come out looking as good as the 4K video with just a much smaller file size! The ONLY real difference you might notice is if you try to zoom way in on a certain part of the video to see fine details, obviously the 4K video will look better and be less pixelated than the 1080p video will be, just because there is 4 times as much pixel information saved in each frame in the 4K video compared to the 1080p video.
From watching your video as well as several other comparison videos on RUclips that I have found, I seem to be leaning more towards either the Viofo A229 Pro or the Thinkware U3000. Honestly though, sometimes the Blackvue video footage looks better during the day, but then it looks like it does a terrible job recording at night in low light. The same thing with the new Vueroid camera. I honestly thought that all around, the Vueroid seemed to have the best looking video during the day and even in the tunnel test, the white balance seemed the best and the video footage looked the most natural. The video from the other 3 cameras looked much more yellow during the tunnel test, especially when you first drove into the tunnel. By the time you were driving out of the tunnel, the Viofo, Thinkware, and Blackvue cameras finally kind of "caught up" to the Vueroid and the video footage looked less yellow and was a bit more natural looking. However, again, I think the Vueroid kind of fell on its face when shooting nighttime footage. Also, the rear camera is only 1080p and it is using an older Sony sensor, so the rear camera footage looks terrible!
So, unless there are any newer models that have come out that are significantly better by any of these manufacturers (or any other manufacturers that you haven't reviewed yet...), I still think that I'm leaning more towards the Thinkware U3000, but the Viofo A229 Pro is still a VERY close second based on its overall video quality and some of its features. But I also really like the radar parking mode of the Thinkware U3000, even if it would probably be going off all the time and constantly recording videos for no reason if you park in a busy parking garage or on a busy street. I think the fastest impact detection and recording functionality would actually be the best for long-term parking security. Either way, it seems that except for quick trips to the store, you would need a pretty sizeable external battery backup for the dash cam if you wanted to use the dash cam as a parking security system for when you are parked somewhere all day long.
I think you have to take another look at the night time footage. Too many people are looking at bright contrast and associating that with great video quality. ruclips.net/video/w8QYkzrMIX4/видео.html look at the street signs at night, boards as you drive by.
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Hello,
Great canadian channel.
I am waiting for a comparison between the Vantrue N5 (and N4 Pro) and the Viofo A229 Pro.
I feel like these would/ should be the best based on hardware.
It’s my understanding that the Viofo maintains the 4K resolution while in 3 channel mode, and that the Vantrue loses its resolution in more than 1 channel mode.
I think the Viofo has HDR on the front and rear too, so I anticipate the Viofo may be better than the Vantrue series, despite the 4 channel set up with the N5.
Can you please clarify on camera resolution vs sensor resolution?
I highly value being able to snag license plates.
Bonus capability is parking mode, capturing a hit and run, and not killing my battery.
I would go with Viofo A229 Pro over either of those 2 units. For many reasons. 1. Viofo has 2 K STARVIS 2 rear camera. Vantrue has 1080p rear. 2. Viofo has timer on parking mode and Vantrue does not. 3. There is more flexibility with locating the interior camera on Viofo A229 Pro as it is not attached to main unit. If you want parking mode on any of these units I would get a battery pack
Vantrue N4 Pro does not lose resolution when going from 1,2, or 3 channel mode. The N5 I am not sure. Overall Vantrue is a good camera but still has a few improvements to make to catch up to Viofo.
Your video is very informative. Quick question as to dash cam. My Camry came with backup cam. If I purchase dash cam two channels will that affect my stock backup can?
This is an independent system and will not affect your current camera system
I’m shopping for a new dash cam. I’m so disappointed with Blackvue costume service
Customer service in general is a challenge nowadays. We do offer full support to our clients on the products we offer at Safe Drive Solutions. We prefer customers deal directly with us as we install the product, sell the product, and use the product everyday. We also try and align ourselves with brands that give customer service. However where they lack we do try and make videos to help educate and allow customers to troubleshoot on their own as well.
How does the REDTIGER F7N Plus dash cam compares with the ones you tested?
It does not compare. It is not even a 4K dash camera. ruclips.net/video/5EcITSNBQ6A/видео.html
@@SafeDriveSolutions Thanks, I did some more digging and found that the forward camera sensor a Sony Starvis IMX335. It seems this Sony sensor has a maximum resolution of 2560×1440, which is also known 2K (1440p). So I agree with you that the Redtiger F7N is not at true 4K camera. It also appears that the REDTIGER F7NP dashcam records in 4K Ultra HD (3840*2160P) resolution for the front camera and Full HD 1080P for the rear camera. Can you verify my findings?
This is so ggod it got me more confused, LOL. I saw some with separated videos with 3 way products for internal camera, perhaps a "post credits" video with this option? Also missing Vantrue, is it not good?
Thank you.
What do you plan to use it for?
Great comparison video, thanks. In the current draw table, the numbers for the U3000 and the A229 Pro don't match what you showed in a previous video - How motion detection Works, why, where did the numbers come from in this table?
Thinkware u3000 has 2 forms of motion detection.
-motion detection
- radar mode
Also i only tested front cameras in that video that you are referring to
@@SafeDriveSolutions okay so the rear cameras weren't connected, well that would make up for the lower current seen in the other video, thanks.
as for U3000 having the lower parking mode draw in the radar mode, that's great, but like you said, in a busy parking lot it's going to be constantly triggered, so the current draw is going to be a lot more than the 14mA spec. This almost gives the win for parking mode draw to the newcomer-the D21 I would think.
Correct
Yes but the U3000 can chabge to energy saving mode as well. Which allows you adjust depending where you park
Do you think the location of each camera on the windshield impacts their ability to pick up LPs when driving past either the left or right? I know it's impossible to avoid that, but seeing where each was on the glass could be cool
Its right in the thumbnail picture for video. 😀
@@SafeDriveSolutions lol my man, two steps ahead. Very cool, thanks!
Great video Ben. My Thinkware U3000 is outstanding for what I need it for. Do you recommend using the polarizing filter that comes with the unit? Thanks
Yes typically everyone uses the polarized filter
@@SafeDriveSolutions Thanks so much Ben.
Was hoping Vantrue N4 Pro would be part of this video to see a nice comparison with all of these. There was one random video comparison of Vantrue N4 Pro but no other details. Great video tho
Everyone keeps asking for it. I guess I will give the people what they want
Viofo A229 Pro vs Vantrue N4 Pro vs Vueroid D21 4K
The download speed test was in no way an equal test. Your file sizes for the D21 4K and U3000 were less than half the file sizes for the other two. Absolutely they would download faster. That's a no brainer. The question is why the files sizes are different. if it was the same drive recording for all four, then some manipulation was done to the video file by both the D21 and U3000 to reduce the file size. Was it compressed by the cam? Was the resolution cut down? What format was each cam video file? Was this only 1 dash cam say front only or a combination of multiple dash cams front, rear, internal views etc for the Viofo and Blackvue cams. It's kind of misleading to not specify your parameters or make absolute sure you have the same settings on all four cams brands you are testing. It means nothing to test download speed when the files sizes are not nearly identical.
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The interior of my car gets as high as 160 Fahrenheit, I live in deep south Texas, any recommendations for a dash cam ? I'm looking for a 2 channel dash cam.
We are working on a heat test. Trying to have it done in next 2 weeks.
I believe the Vueroid and Thinkware should do best. But we will find out soon
Hey my RUclips colleague, very very good Video and much Information with very fair Comment from you. Iam searching for a Cam wich have 4G /LTE Module. What about the Thinkware Dashcam T700 ? Or i think i have to wait for a Thinkware Dashcam with integrated 4G/LET Module. How much electicity (mA) need the Telekom Hotspot UBD Module ? The 710 may have it with the U04 Kit but the electicity with acitvated Motion detection wirh 450 mA the whole Time, is to high and the Battery was fast low. Greetings from Germany. Olli
Not familiar with Thinkware T700. It may not be available in North American market. You should get a battery pack if running that type of setup.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I think the Thinkware U3000 was perfect for me, when it has: HDR and 4g/LTE Modul. Is this planned ; do you know about somethink ?
@@SkyLiveCOC no idea at this point in time
I heard the Thinkware rear cam radar isn’t ideal for SUVs with a vertical rear window because you can’t adjust where the radar is pointing. Apparently it works best for sedans with angled windows, is that true?
I do agree there are some challenges. But it works in many suvs perfectly fine. I think trucks are the main concern
Great video. I’m going with the viofo a229. Do you have thoughts on the whether or not the CPL addition to the lens is necessary? Did you record the viofo 229 pro with or without the optional CPL lens? Thanks for your content
It was recorded without cpl filter. Most people use it.
I have rainbow in my video if I use the CPL, but I do have tint on my windshield. It also makes the footage a little darker, so you gotta edit it.
I'd like to see these cameras be tested with small impacts, IE. bouncing a ball off the bumper. Or a door ding impact, suttle very small detections.
you did see the basketball test? If the dash cameras are too sensitive rain will set it off.
All your phones were on 5G cell signals during the download except the Blackview which was on WiFi. So this isn’t a fair and accurate example of download speed. 2:58
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Thank you. Encrypted storage?
Its your sd card in the unit. No it is not encrypted
@@SafeDriveSolutions Right. So, are there any systems that encrypt?
Two Starvis 2 sensors with 2K rear resolution tells me which one I want.
Good job Ben!
Thanks Robert. Also thanks for viewing the first draft and giving feedback on volume levels. 😎
@@SafeDriveSolutions Yeah, I really appreciate that the beep sound for parking mode impact is much lower now. :) It was ear piercing.
Great. Why not the vantrue n4 pro ? I wish a comparison with the others?
N4 pro
- current draw
-only available in 3 channel mode
-low battery protection is not good enough for newer vehicles. Have seen lots of customers buy it and have their battery die due to how their parking mode works. Hence why we don’t carry Vantrue.
-The unit is big and many people pointed out to me on last video we did with it they could not believe I did not point out how big it is.
-rear camera overheats and gives blurry image with hdr
-parking mode is irrelevant without a battery pack
-6 second impact detection
- when you use parking mode it says in high heat please use impact detection. Same thing red tiger says. But 6 seconds after makes it a dash camera that needs improvements
- i do feel it is a great UBER dash cam. With great 4k video quality while driving.
- lastly when Vantrue asked me to review a different product in October. They asked me to buy it off Amazon. When I give it a 5 star review on Amazon they will send me money in return. Huge mistake. We dont do fake reviews and my trust for the company went to almost zero
Forget about any VanTrue product
Thank you so much for this video! Did you see somewhere what is the bitrate of the Viofo A229 Pro? I am thinking about buying one, but the high endurance SD cards write speed of 40 mb/s seems not enough for me :( Are those SD cards capable of saving the 4k video properly?
We use viofo sd cards. We had it on maximum bitrate.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would buy that, but those are not available to sale in Hungary, in some of your videos you mentioned the Sandisk High/Max Endurances are really good and durable SD cards and I was thinking about buying one of those, but with 40 mb/s writing speed I am not sure. Without Viofo SD cards maybe a 4k dashcam is not worth it? (I saw that Sandisk Extreme does 130mb/s, but it was not made for dashcams, so I would not risk it)
@@gyorgy12 we have used a lot of sandisk extreme pro
Great informative video. I would like to have one on my 24 ' RV. Which one has a long cable that can reach the back of the RV for the rear camera?
Do you need to mount it on the exterior?
I was thinking inside. I didnt know it could be outside. What are the pros amd cons?
@@wdjs2you can not mount on exterior which is why I asked
Ok, What camera has a long cable that can reach to the back?
@@wdjs2 you can order extension cables for Viofo A229 Pro. I have a 10 metre in stock. Not sure if you need longer but I think they have some longer options available.
Hi thanks you for video . I am very new to dash cam so i love to buy one . What do you recomemed ? Thank you
Depends on lifestyle. Are you looking for while driving? While parked or a combination of both?
What make model and year of vehicle is it for?
Thank you for your kind reply . I am looking for a while driving . Thank you in advance
most people would choose viofo A229 pro as it is least expensive and has 4k front and 2k rear resolution. Thats what we would recommend
@@SafeDriveSolutions Thank you for your help . I will buy viofo A229 pro. Subscribed . Thank you
Your welcome
How is the viofo mounted? I have tinted windows, tint strip on front windowshield and back window has heated lines across it. Don't like the idea of adhesive on the tint especially with how hot it gets in the sunmer. I've seen some dash cams with static stickers and the adhesive on the cam mounts on the sticker instead.
Viofo comes with static mounts but we never use them. We clean windshield with antiseptic wipes and mount to windshield with 3m tape.
do you have an individual review of the Vueroid D21 4K? Do you know if it handles high temps well? I was leaning towards the U3000 for the parking mode options but this one looks great too and at a cheaper price.
We will try and put out an individual review soon. Have not tested heat yet. Most Korean brands Thinkware, IROAD, and etc have been great in high heat.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I would love to see a manual for the D21 4K, Vueroid does not have one listed on their site yet, do you have any info for resolutions, frame rates, etc? Hopefully Vueroid gets a manual published quickly, I would like to read it before I purchase. :)
@@crutchclargo drive.google.com/file/d/1UNgPvVPglX0nZEyvQpbUUSSL-KYmWH_X/view?usp=drivesdk
@@SafeDriveSolutions Got it, thanks!
Where can we go to order the Vueroid D21? No one has it online.
We do and we ship to USA and Canada. safedrivesolutions.com/product/vueroid-d21-4k/
@@SafeDriveSolutions I have placed my order. Thank you again!
@@pqtat718 Your Welcome
You failed to mention the file sizes for the download speed that were different for each camera! The last 2 cameras had file sizes 3 times that of the first. So that must mean that the Vueroid D21 didn't record that much video info. Sounds potato to me!
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Here ya go
Does the Veuroid provide impact push notifications? Or any models for that matter except the Thinkware, even if it’s just an LED or something on the device?
Yes it gives you verbal notification
@@SafeDriveSolutions thank you, does it give notification when you get back in the car or only if you are in there when it happens?
@@bobert4522when you get back in car
Hola soy José de Chile sudamerica , tengo una dash cam modelo 70mai 800s 21-32 y me consume batería , no se si será que no me doy cuenta en la configuración si tiene el tema del ahorro de batería que ud mensiona , ya que en las otras cámaras que ud muestra Si lo tienen y acá no lo encuentro , si ud conoce más esta cámara y me pudiera ayudar se lo agradecería , saludos 👍
Battery saving is built into cord. You can set the voltage in the cord. Except it wont let you on 70mai and it is typically below 12 volts on the unit
Look at the front view of the BlackVue around 4:15-14:20 On other 3 dashcams there is an airplane flying from the right to the left above the bridge but that airplane is not visible in anyway on the Blackvue images. !!!! What the heck is their filtering/image processing mode?
Now the Viofo A229 Pro and Blackvue were about 4-6 inches over on right side of windshield. So it looks like it just did not catch it.
I had the previous model of Blackvue and it’s not working properly
We are not experts on blackvue tech support. what is not working properly
Well, when I turn my car on the camera keeps repeating: blackvue for safety driving, hot spots not available. It doesn’t stop, and I can’t lower the volume using the app. I just want another camera that’s reliable. I called Blackvue and there’s nobody there to answer the phone. After a long waiting I gave up on them. It’s not the first time I try to reach a live person and no success
@@fernandolucas7780 i have to ask. have you tried a new SD card? That seems to be the culprit for a lot of dash cameras. Have you tried the cigarette lighter cable t o see if there is a power issue? Have you tried formatting the memory card?
I was told once to format the SD card and still doesn’t fix the issue. I just bought another Blackvue dash cam yesterday but I’m returning it today because I know I won’t be able to reach costumer service if I need. I tried twice today and couldn’t get a hold on anyone there
My camera was wired in my car for a Best Buy’s technician and it worked well for 2 years but now this issue appeared
At 16:35 did you decide that the thinkware was no longer a good product so you picked up a Vantrue N4 Pro? This really stands out.
Also, your download comparison wasn't a good/accurate representation of capability. The Vueroid had the highest throughput at 13.64 MB/s, the Viofo second at 9.78 MB/s, Thinkware in third with 8.56 MB/s and Blackvue in last with 5.8 MB/s.
No I knew people were going to ask where was Vantrue N4 Pro. So I included it in video comparison footage. I have had a lot of videos on Thinkware night capability over the last 9 months. I even have video of U3000 vs these units as well just not in this video.
I feel the download comparison was great which I already mentioned in comments.
Thinkware will take same amount of time whether the file is 1 second long or 30 seconds or a minute. That is how their software works.
What most customers care about is time it takes to download a video file.
I will be testing if there is any improvements when changing video on Viofo from maximum to normal.
What post processing do you use before rendering your video for youtube? I have the Viofo a229 pro, and my videos look nothing like yours. They are grainy (yes, resolutuon is set to 4k, 30fps) and far too sharp, like it needs anti aliasing.
We just use capcut. All videos are 3840 x 2160. 30fps
Get the latest firmware and that will fix a lot of issues. However, the biggest thing is to have a video viewer that is optioned to handle 4k. The incorrect, or mis-optioned video player, or graphic card plays a big hand in image quality as well.
@@crutchclargowe use a Mac Studio. Prior computer would freeze
@@SafeDriveSolutions I wish I could afford a Mac Studio 😀 . I moved from Windows to Linux Debian about two years ago, however, I did have a nice tax return this year so maybe I should put a Mac Studio on my desk.
I’m watching RUclips videos to see if I get a reliable dash cam.
It sounds like some of the dashcams were using Bluetooth instead of WiFi. It would be interesting to turn off Bluetooth on your phone and see if things speed up.
Speed up for what??
@@SafeDriveSolutions Sorry. That question came to mind while watching your file transfer test, and some dashcams took far longer than others. In IT networks, when we see wildly different performances between devices connected in the same manner, it can turn out that the device is taking an unexpected route.
@@RickActual there is no way that I know of to change file transfer speeds. These are quite quick except the Blackvue of course
I’m looking for a max security camera. What would you recommend? Would love to have at least a 3-channel or ways to record multiple angles and not just the front and back
For while parked??
@@SafeDriveSolutions parked or while driving
@@lifejourney8704do you drive lots? How long do you want it to record while parked?
@@SafeDriveSolutions not that much but eventually would like to use the vehicle for ride share and deliveries. While parked, I may just need it to activate when impact detected or close motion detection
Sorry mate I am confused. I am from Australia and which one you recommend it for me? I want 4k and park mode it’s important for me with great plate resolution and be sure 24 hours recording.
If you get a battery pack it opens up all thge dash cameras to the potential of 24 hours recording. If you dont want a battery pack then the U3000 and Vueroid D21 4K are only good options due to their low current draw options.
@@SafeDriveSolutions I'm planning to purchase a battery pack. Today, I contacted the person who does installations, and he informed me that since my car is a 2023 Ford Puma and its battery is too small, I'll need to buy additional hardware. He quoted me $400 just for the battery. Could you please help me find the exact item and model for a battery pack in Australia? Plus what exact model for dashtcam is your recommendation based on on your experience. Please that’s a big help
@@daramashalian9166 We are in Canada. Not familiar with your market. Also not familiar with Ford Puma although the car name sounds cool
What dash camera would you suggest me? Thanks
It all depends on what challenge you are trying to solve. Do you want it to work while driving? while parked? mix of both? do you want Cloud? no cloud? lots of variables.
Vueroid has the widest angle and colors are closer to natural. If only we could make such comparisons of candidates to the president of our countries.
Great Video!
Thanks!
Salve sia in movimento o con auto parcheggiata nel video si sente un breve rumore (prrrrr) ogni tanto è normale?
Could be my microphone.
@@SafeDriveSolutions Grazie, infatti se tolgo l'audio non ci fa
WTF! Every one of them have different file sizes, so yes, a150 MB file will download a lot faster than a 257MB, 450 MB and 464 MB file? So, what is your deal here?
Read the comments. We made another video addressing this with 8-4k dash cameras.
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How does the Vueroid attach to the windshield? I am confused by the design of how it would attach, do you happen to have a video or photos?
Attaches with 3m tape and the unit slides sideways off the mount. I will try and do a video showing it
@@SafeDriveSolutions That would be great, I sure like your assessments and how helpful your videos are.