I have full HD video stream on while my wife and i are working from home without any issues using my 40k VDSL connection. Still the point that privatisation of any piece of infrastructure was a shot in the foot is valid. The country should have kept the infrastructure and rent it out to private companies to deal with pricing and customer service. We could have fiber optic in the 80s, but Kohl cancelled it in favour of his buddy Leo Kirch. Currently the technology to use your EV's battery as extended storage exists for a while. Yet we can't use it because of lack of regulations. 🙄
fibre optic internet is slowly being rolled out across the country but the process is VERY slow and chaotic, and if i was still dependent on dsl here in the countryside i'd be watching youtube with a realistic download speed of a whopping FIVE mbit/s (not giga, m e g a)
Our government pretty much had no idea and at it seems no people who had any idea of internet technologies. So we put all our money on the wrong horse and when it was clear that fiber optic cable would be the future we already put copper cables everywhere and changing it then would have been ridiculously expensive. That's why Romania for example which very early used fiber optics have a much better internet than us. We have similar issues with mobile connections. There are many parts all over the country where you simply don't have any mobile connections. When I want to call my sister I have to call her via internet because the mobile towers at her place are utter trash. That said.. I live in Berlin and don't have the biggest issues with my internet speed (this is also very different within Berlin though). The hardest thing here is finding an affordable place to live. When it comes to trains. Trains being late or simply not coming are one thing. There are more and more reports of trains just breaking down and not going anywhere in the fuck of nowhere.
I live in the country, albeit in the Rhine-Main region, which is a hub of the economy. I made a contract for glass fiber as soon as it was offered in my area - that was more than two years ago. So far, NOTHING happened (apart from me signing the contract, and a company representative inspecting the house and us agreeing on where the cable will connect to the house), plus they said that, once the cables are up, it will take another year to work… As a university instructor who needs a good internet connection to upload hefty files for students and such, it is quite frustrating! On the other hand, I appreciate our end of nuclear energy. After all, we are a very small country after all and it will take - at least another 70 years to figure out where to store the nuclear waste we produced already when we had it. It is not a viable solution to keep producing nuclear waste without a good solution for where to store the waste. Other nations apparently ignore this problem. America is big enough to probably find some remote enough place, but none of the European nations have found a good solution either… Natural energies, such as sun and wind, at least, are clean and are here in abundance (unlike oil f.e.).
9:14 The real Deutsche Bahn problems is a completely different one: The various governments (over Time) are not in agreement about which path should be taken (which fundamental decisions should be made) - Should we finance roads or trains? - High-speed long-distance trains or better regional transport? The politicians always "sell" us that we can have *everything* at the same time. ( If even the simplest economic principles are ignored, how can this work effectively? ) The "privatization" was essentially nothing more than an attempt to distract from the fact that political failure led to the disastrous situation of the railway.
I live in a small town, Internet is actually abundant. I have 100/40 Mbit/s via VDSL. We're currently in the process of getting connected via fibre (the speedpipes are already in the basement, just the fibre cable still has to get put in). I could get 1000/50 via cable, for 44.95€ per month. But my DSL only costs 32€ per month. And I'm fine with 100Mbit. I'd only get fibre for the higher upload bandwidth. With Cable it isn't much faster than what I have now. Also our cable infrastructure is over 40 years old, and ailing. There are villages in the area where cable is the only option (like at my parents' place), but cable here is just incredibly unstable. We had cable at my workplace and had several service interruptions daily, we had to have a DSL line as fallback. Now we're on fibre there and everything is fine. If I need faster speeds than what I have now, I simply use 4G. Fun fact about fibre and cable here in Germany: In 1981(!), the social democrats had planned to replace phone lines with high speed fibre optic cables. In 1982 the CDU came to power and our new conservative government dumped those plans and decided to roll out coax cable TV instead. Which, after decades of CDU (16 years of Kohl, 16 years of Merkel), explains why we still haven't moved on by much.
Now if we think about hydrogen cars, because electric cars in Germany don't have the range and refueling doesn't take as long, if the electric car is still charging, the hydrogen car will go 100 km further. In reality, storing electricity from wind power would be the coolest solution!
Well, most of the mentioned problems are due to privatization. It doesn‘t pay to bring Fibre optic cables to the Pampa, as I put it. Same story with the railway. I guess more than 100 stations/ tracks were taken out of use. The common wealth is no value as such any more.
@@lynnm6413 Money, money, money… and if you argue with Community needs, you get scolded communist. That all started with the US plans for Globalization. That idea ruined many states, now dependent on rich countries.
I understand the lady's sense of humor, but in general she is right. The whole disaster mentioned is a remnant of more than 16 years of conservative government, which enshrined the "debt brake" in the German constitution in 2009 and acted on the basis of “That's how it used to be!” or “We'll wait and see”. However, things have at least improved a little in recent years, although some points are also very individual: The authorities are providing more and more digital services, card payments are being accepted more and more frequently, in my rural region (I live in a village) we started 2017 after moving in with just under 40 Mbit/s download internet speed and now have 175 Mbit/s and could also get fiber optics from two providers, but we are satisfied so far for now. We are slowly seeing more and more charging points for electric cars, although of course there are still a long way to go. If we had thrown the debt brake overboard - the debt ratio measured against GDP is just 63% (2023 figures) - and borrowed money where it was very cheap or the government didn't even have to pay interest and invested the money massively in expanding the infrastructure, we would be better off today. Now that interest rates have risen, this will be very expensive for future generations.
5:30 Germany is very conservative, that is the price to pay. We Germans also wrote an artificial "debt brake" into the constitution by law at a time when revenues were high. Now the majority see it as a virtue to have this debt brake (according to the motto: we don't want to leave future generations with any debt. The fact that one would then have to forego quick investments which would bring advantages in the medium term is simply ignored.). And with reference to this law, all necessary investments or regulations are rhetorically brushed aside. Conservatism has recently become coupled with populism and thus there is no longer any political culture of debate as soon as things become a little more complex than yes or no.
Regional and intercity rail in Germany is unreliable but local rail in Germany is much better than in the UK. Over 60 German cities have trams, compared to only 7 UK cities and over 20 German cities have some form of underground local rail, compared to only 4 UK cities. Local rail networks in Germany provide dense coverage to their respective cities, while in most UK cities that do have tubes or trams, most neighbourhoods don't have a stop so you have to complete your journey by bus. For example: Bielefeld has an urban area of 591k, served by 4 tram lines that also call at 7 tube stations under the town centre. Birmingham has an urban area of 2.5 million, served by 1 tram line with 0 tube stations under the town centre. Leeds, Brighton, Bristol, Hull, Leicester and many other major UK cities have no trams or underground at all. Using the "Deutschlandticket", you can use all bus, tram, underground, monorail and local and regional trains throughout all of Germany for 49€/calendar month.
The consequences of the 90s politics happened. The roots of our bad internet, the always late trains, the still existing economical devide of the former east and west part of Germany were layed back then. It was 16 „glorious“ years of a CDU led government during the 90s, followed by an 8 year intermission of another party with a chancellor who is now one of Putins best buddies and then another 16 years of the same 90s party which was managing its own mistakes and delaying investments in our Infrastructure like schools, train tracks, modern equipment for educational institutions or an environmentally friendly economy. We got a new government since 3 years but it collapsed yesterday. I guess we‘re a lucky country.
Actually, the UK railways were indeed "privatised" in the same way as the German ones. The railways are entirely owned by the government but the services are franchised out to "train operating companies". It sucks. In the 1800s, the railways were built by tycoons who had to take risks and make sure their line was reliable and affordable or else they wouldn't be able to turn a profit. Since nationalisation after ww2, the UK government closed and demolished more than 50% of the railways in 1965 and has hardly built any new lines, compared to whow much was built before the world wars. When they do build new lines, they're mostly A: in London and B: the most expensive railway per km ever built. This was the case for the Jubilee line and the Elizabeth line and is going to be the case for HS2. Spain gets so much more built really quickly at a much lower cost.
Sabine Hossenfelder is a well known physicist and journalist with lots of dry humor. They even named the asteroid "Hossi" after her. She is right about Germany, but to be embarrassed is a bit too far IMO. Maybe her brain does function too good to cope with stupidity. Maybe that is the difference between her and me. 🤔😵💫🥳
i think the part about not being proud to be german isn't about being pessimistic that something might happen if we're too happy. it's mostly that we associate patriotism with nazi germany and therefore see it as something bad, and only become a tiny bit patriotic when it comes to sports the US is too patritic because it has not yet seen overwhelming devastation of the land and defeat in a war, i guess
our internet is really an issue for me. I can`t stream disney plus without buffering (not just once). And i learned, that netflix is HD while i was in switzerland. I am not able to watch HD at home.
You know the saying "too many chefs make the porridge spoil."? That's exactly the situation we have here right now. Didn't you follow the news? Wednesday was wild and it has nothing to do with Trump.
If the majority of the shares remain in the hands of the state, it makes sense, private and yet state-owned. Conservative governments have underfunded the railroads for years, and this does not apply to bus lines. It's the same in the UK. Flights should never be so cheap! It's better to put money into the railroads than to subsidize airlines. Fast, or slow? I would never fly with Boeing. When we got out of nuclear energy, nuclear power was under 10 %. It would have required huge investments to bring the old nuclear power plants up to date. Nuclear power is many times more expensive, and that doesn't even include nuclear waste. France had to shut down nuclear power plants in recent years due to water shortages, who helped out? DE
150Mbit = 18,75MB/s - your Video (H264,1080p,30fps,128kbit aac) is 479MB large -> therefore it would take 25 Sek to download and around 75-80 Sek for the upload.
I've never had any problems with streaming, smooth and in top quality. living in a 3 k village Using Britain as a reference to a well-functioning nation from a policy/leadership perspective is kind of wild. Well oooooorddeeeerrrr was funny, but the rest a clown show, sorry! What UK products are available or successful? The UK has become a service country like the US, which has to import more complicated things than a fridge.
Most people use the TV cable for the Internet as it is far cheaper than getting Fiber. But technical it is a problem that the cables belong to the mobile companies. It would be better if all companies like Vodafone or Telecom would rent the cables from cable companies. As maintenance and upgrading would be done differently by other companies. Hydrogen is a good thing it can be stored quite easy if you use modern methods that are cheap. If you look at these methods like the Powerpaste and the fact that other countries as Japan, that has developed a method to produce Hydrogen cheap with a Nuclear powerplant, are betting on it. It is not as unreasonable as some think.
i live in the countryside and we got fiber optic cables...but i dont want it as i dont need it the normal dsl with 60mb/s is more than fast enough for a normal person and you can do that easy with copper cables its like wanting a Racecar in a country with speed limits at the highway. i think its mostly a scam where some politicans earned a lot off money for pushing the spread of fiberoptics. it makes sense if you have an internet cafe or if you want to host a stream event but for normal use... nah as a 60mb/s connection can handle every online game
We use one router for 4 single person apartments and split the bill…I have lived in versions rural German areas and don‘t find it impedes my internet usage…and for 10 € a month I won’t upgrade to Glas Fibre which will be available in the new year for 50€ at the minimum…-too poor
I have full HD video stream on while my wife and i are working from home without any issues using my 40k VDSL connection.
Still the point that privatisation of any piece of infrastructure was a shot in the foot is valid.
The country should have kept the infrastructure and rent it out to private companies to deal with pricing and customer service.
We could have fiber optic in the 80s, but Kohl cancelled it in favour of his buddy Leo Kirch.
Currently the technology to use your EV's battery as extended storage exists for a while. Yet we can't use it because of lack of regulations. 🙄
Everythink see said is abolutly true about Germany.
fibre optic internet is slowly being rolled out across the country but the process is VERY slow and chaotic, and if i was still dependent on dsl here in the countryside i'd be watching youtube with a realistic download speed of a whopping FIVE mbit/s (not giga, m e g a)
Our government pretty much had no idea and at it seems no people who had any idea of internet technologies. So we put all our money on the wrong horse and when it was clear that fiber optic cable would be the future we already put copper cables everywhere and changing it then would have been ridiculously expensive. That's why Romania for example which very early used fiber optics have a much better internet than us.
We have similar issues with mobile connections. There are many parts all over the country where you simply don't have any mobile connections. When I want to call my sister I have to call her via internet because the mobile towers at her place are utter trash.
That said.. I live in Berlin and don't have the biggest issues with my internet speed (this is also very different within Berlin though). The hardest thing here is finding an affordable place to live.
When it comes to trains. Trains being late or simply not coming are one thing. There are more and more reports of trains just breaking down and not going anywhere in the fuck of nowhere.
16:15 I actually watch more than one Reaction to a Video most of the time, you don't need to be fast for everyone :)
Same…I also mostly don‘t like US reactors, if they only pull faces and say amazing! 🥲 I much appreciate British perspectives
@lynnm6413 i hate these....theyre just farming clicks
I live in the country, albeit in the Rhine-Main region, which is a hub of the economy. I made a contract for glass fiber as soon as it was offered in my area - that was more than two years ago. So far, NOTHING happened (apart from me signing the contract, and a company representative inspecting the house and us agreeing on where the cable will connect to the house), plus they said that, once the cables are up, it will take another year to work… As a university instructor who needs a good internet connection to upload hefty files for students and such, it is quite frustrating!
On the other hand, I appreciate our end of nuclear energy. After all, we are a very small country after all and it will take - at least another 70 years to figure out where to store the nuclear waste we produced already when we had it. It is not a viable solution to keep producing nuclear waste without a good solution for where to store the waste. Other nations apparently ignore this problem. America is big enough to probably find some remote enough place, but none of the European nations have found a good solution either… Natural energies, such as sun and wind, at least, are clean and are here in abundance (unlike oil f.e.).
9:14 The real Deutsche Bahn problems is a completely different one: The various governments (over Time) are not in agreement about which path should be taken (which fundamental decisions should be made)
- Should we finance roads or trains?
- High-speed long-distance trains or better regional transport?
The politicians always "sell" us that we can have *everything* at the same time. ( If even the simplest economic principles are ignored, how can this work effectively? )
The "privatization" was essentially nothing more than an attempt to distract from the fact that political failure led to the disastrous situation of the railway.
I live in a small town, Internet is actually abundant. I have 100/40 Mbit/s via VDSL. We're currently in the process of getting connected via fibre (the speedpipes are already in the basement, just the fibre cable still has to get put in). I could get 1000/50 via cable, for 44.95€ per month. But my DSL only costs 32€ per month. And I'm fine with 100Mbit. I'd only get fibre for the higher upload bandwidth. With Cable it isn't much faster than what I have now.
Also our cable infrastructure is over 40 years old, and ailing. There are villages in the area where cable is the only option (like at my parents' place), but cable here is just incredibly unstable. We had cable at my workplace and had several service interruptions daily, we had to have a DSL line as fallback. Now we're on fibre there and everything is fine. If I need faster speeds than what I have now, I simply use 4G.
Fun fact about fibre and cable here in Germany: In 1981(!), the social democrats had planned to replace phone lines with high speed fibre optic cables. In 1982 the CDU came to power and our new conservative government dumped those plans and decided to roll out coax cable TV instead. Which, after decades of CDU (16 years of Kohl, 16 years of Merkel), explains why we still haven't moved on by much.
Yeah, just another reason not to vote black now!
Now if we think about hydrogen cars, because electric cars in Germany don't have the range and refueling doesn't take as long, if the electric car is still charging, the hydrogen car will go 100 km further. In reality, storing electricity from wind power would be the coolest solution!
Well, most of the mentioned problems are due to privatization. It doesn‘t pay to bring Fibre optic cables to the Pampa, as I put it. Same story with the railway. I guess more than 100 stations/ tracks were taken out of use. The common wealth is no value as such any more.
Very shortsighted, when considering that rural people HAVE to own two cars to even manage a family of four!
@@lynnm6413 Money, money, money… and if you argue with Community needs, you get scolded communist. That all started with the US plans for Globalization. That idea ruined many states, now dependent on rich countries.
I understand the lady's sense of humor, but in general she is right. The whole disaster mentioned is a remnant of more than 16 years of conservative government, which enshrined the "debt brake" in the German constitution in 2009 and acted on the basis of “That's how it used to be!” or “We'll wait and see”. However, things have at least improved a little in recent years, although some points are also very individual: The authorities are providing more and more digital services, card payments are being accepted more and more frequently, in my rural region (I live in a village) we started 2017 after moving in with just under 40 Mbit/s download internet speed and now have 175 Mbit/s and could also get fiber optics from two providers, but we are satisfied so far for now. We are slowly seeing more and more charging points for electric cars, although of course there are still a long way to go. If we had thrown the debt brake overboard - the debt ratio measured against GDP is just 63% (2023 figures) - and borrowed money where it was very cheap or the government didn't even have to pay interest and invested the money massively in expanding the infrastructure, we would be better off today. Now that interest rates have risen, this will be very expensive for future generations.
5:30 Germany is very conservative, that is the price to pay.
We Germans also wrote an artificial "debt brake" into the constitution by law at a time when revenues were high.
Now the majority see it as a virtue to have this debt brake (according to the motto: we don't want to leave future generations with any debt. The fact that one would then have to forego quick investments which would bring advantages in the medium term is simply ignored.).
And with reference to this law, all necessary investments or regulations are rhetorically brushed aside.
Conservatism has recently become coupled with populism and thus there is no longer any political culture of debate as soon as things become a little more complex than yes or no.
Regional and intercity rail in Germany is unreliable but local rail in Germany is much better than in the UK.
Over 60 German cities have trams, compared to only 7 UK cities and over 20 German cities have some form of underground local rail, compared to only 4 UK cities.
Local rail networks in Germany provide dense coverage to their respective cities, while in most UK cities that do have tubes or trams, most neighbourhoods don't have a stop so you have to complete your journey by bus.
For example:
Bielefeld has an urban area of 591k, served by 4 tram lines that also call at 7 tube stations under the town centre.
Birmingham has an urban area of 2.5 million, served by 1 tram line with 0 tube stations under the town centre.
Leeds, Brighton, Bristol, Hull, Leicester and many other major UK cities have no trams or underground at all.
Using the "Deutschlandticket", you can use all bus, tram, underground, monorail and local and regional trains throughout all of Germany for 49€/calendar month.
The consequences of the 90s politics happened. The roots of our bad internet, the always late trains, the still existing economical devide of the former east and west part of Germany were layed back then. It was 16 „glorious“ years of a CDU led government during the 90s, followed by an 8 year intermission of another party with a chancellor who is now one of Putins best buddies and then another 16 years of the same 90s party which was managing its own mistakes and delaying investments in our Infrastructure like schools, train tracks, modern equipment for educational institutions or an environmentally friendly economy. We got a new government since 3 years but it collapsed yesterday.
I guess we‘re a lucky country.
Actually, the UK railways were indeed "privatised" in the same way as the German ones. The railways are entirely owned by the government but the services are franchised out to "train operating companies". It sucks. In the 1800s, the railways were built by tycoons who had to take risks and make sure their line was reliable and affordable or else they wouldn't be able to turn a profit. Since nationalisation after ww2, the UK government closed and demolished more than 50% of the railways in 1965 and has hardly built any new lines, compared to whow much was built before the world wars. When they do build new lines, they're mostly A: in London and B: the most expensive railway per km ever built. This was the case for the Jubilee line and the Elizabeth line and is going to be the case for HS2. Spain gets so much more built really quickly at a much lower cost.
Sabine Hossenfelder is a well known physicist and journalist with lots of dry humor. They even named the asteroid "Hossi" after her. She is right about Germany, but to be embarrassed is a bit too far IMO. Maybe her brain does function too good to cope with stupidity. Maybe that is the difference between her and me. 🤔😵💫🥳
No, it‘s the waisted potential that is embarrassing…I agree with her…we could be so much better!
😂 it's a shame that Internet is soo slow, espacially if u Keep in mind that fibre glass is an german invention!
i think the part about not being proud to be german isn't about being pessimistic that something might happen if we're too happy. it's mostly that we associate patriotism with nazi germany and therefore see it as something bad, and only become a tiny bit patriotic when it comes to sports
the US is too patritic because it has not yet seen overwhelming devastation of the land and defeat in a war, i guess
our internet is really an issue for me. I can`t stream disney plus without buffering (not just once). And i learned, that netflix is HD while i was in switzerland. I am not able to watch HD at home.
You know the saying "too many chefs make the porridge spoil."? That's exactly the situation we have here right now. Didn't you follow the news? Wednesday was wild and it has nothing to do with Trump.
This was bound to happen…omg
You gave the best reason to visit Germany soon, why going to London? Fly to Hamburg instead. It is cheaper!
If the majority of the shares remain in the hands of the state, it makes sense, private and yet state-owned. Conservative governments have underfunded the railroads for years, and this does not apply to bus lines. It's the same in the UK. Flights should never be so cheap! It's better to put money into the railroads than to subsidize airlines.
Fast, or slow? I would never fly with Boeing.
When we got out of nuclear energy, nuclear power was under 10 %. It would have required huge investments to bring the old nuclear power plants up to date. Nuclear power is many times more expensive, and that doesn't even include nuclear waste. France had to shut down nuclear power plants in recent years due to water shortages, who helped out? DE
150Mbit = 18,75MB/s - your Video (H264,1080p,30fps,128kbit aac) is 479MB large -> therefore it would take 25 Sek to download and around 75-80 Sek for the upload.
I've never had any problems with streaming, smooth and in top quality. living in a 3 k village
Using Britain as a reference to a well-functioning nation from a policy/leadership perspective is kind of wild.
Well oooooorddeeeerrrr was funny, but the rest a clown show, sorry! What UK products are available or successful? The UK has become a service country like the US, which has to import more complicated things than a fridge.
Most people use the TV cable for the Internet as it is far cheaper than getting Fiber. But technical it is a problem that the cables belong to the mobile companies. It would be better if all companies like Vodafone or Telecom would rent the cables from cable companies. As maintenance and upgrading would be done differently by other companies. Hydrogen is a good thing it can be stored quite easy if you use modern methods that are cheap. If you look at these methods like the Powerpaste and the fact that other countries as Japan, that has developed a method to produce Hydrogen cheap with a Nuclear powerplant, are betting on it. It is not as unreasonable as some think.
i live in the countryside and we got fiber optic cables...but i dont want it as i dont need it the normal dsl with 60mb/s is more than fast enough for a normal person and you can do that easy with copper cables its like wanting a Racecar in a country with speed limits at the highway. i think its mostly a scam where some politicans earned a lot off money for pushing the spread of fiberoptics. it makes sense if you have an internet cafe or if you want to host a stream event but for normal use... nah as a 60mb/s connection can handle every online game
We use one router for 4 single person apartments and split the bill…I have lived in versions rural German areas and don‘t find it impedes my internet usage…and for 10 € a month I won’t upgrade to Glas Fibre which will be available in the new year for 50€ at the minimum…-too poor