WW2 M10 Wolverine footage. Part 1.
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- The M10 tank destroyer was an American tank destroyer during WW2, it was officially called the 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 and never Wolverine during the war.
It was armed with the 3-inch (76.2 mm) M7 gun on a modified Sherman tank chassis.
The M10 proved to be an excellent tank destroyer, but the open-topped turret left the crew vulnerable and a lot of crew were lost because of artillery fire, on the other hand the open-topped turret gave excellent visibility which was valuable to a tank destroyer and it also improved reload speed.
The M10 was only produced from 1942 until 1943 and approximately 6,406 were made.
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Have you read the book called "The Clay Pigeon's of Saint Lo"?
There is a passage in the book where an M10 was trying to take out a German 88 in a flak tower that was shelling the town of Saint Lo. The fight took a few hours where the M10 would run up to a street intersection fire a shot at the tower and then race backwards to escape the 88's wrath, the writer explained that this little game of chicken went on for a few hours and then the M10 got a clean hit but at the same time the 88 got their clean hit too. The writer said all the G.I.'s was avoiding that section of town because the 88 pretty much laid it to waste by missing the eluding M10.
If you have read the book how did you like it?
If not I highly recommend it for you to read he talks about the battles from the start of Operation Cobra to the liberation of Saint Lo and goes into the start of the liberation of Paris and all of the clean up actions the Troopers had to do to clear St. Lo.
My grandfather could very easily be among these men. June 44- VE Day. 3rd Armor.
My grandfather was on a M10 during WW2.. His tank was blown up by an attack plane killed his crew but him. Afterwards the US Army put him in the rear fixing broke Sherman and M10 tanks.
nonya biz Damn bro...
:0 my God
worst part of it the attack plane may have not even been German but friendly fire by some hot shot US Army Air Corps pilot
WOAH
@@nonyabiz9487 that sucks 😕 im glad your grandpa lived to tell the tale and such is war I suppose
My dad was assigned to the 813th tank destroyer battalion of the 79th Infantry Division. From what I gather from the invasion of Normandy to the end of the war he was assigned to that unit. When the war ended he was in Darmstadt Germany. Dad was kind of funny about talking about the war. He didn't want to talk about it in too much detail. But his unit did use the M10 tank destroyers.
There is also a chance he would have seen the M36 being placed in action.
I love how weapons of mass destruction in wwii were kinda advertised the same way a new toaster would be
Thank you for posting this. Building a Tamiya 1/35 M10 mid production. was looking for pics of M10's with the .30cal M1919 mounted on front of turret by loader. Was surprised to see some had .50 cal there too!
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful.
The M10 tank destroyer was an American tank destroyer during WW2, it was officially called the 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 and never Wolverine during the war.
It was armed with the 3-inch (76.2 mm) M7 gun on a modified Sherman tank chassis.
The M10 proofed to be an excellent tank destroyer, but the open-topped turret left the crew vulnerable and a lot of crew were lost because of artillery fire, on the other the open-topped turret gave excellent visibility which was valuable to a tank destoyer and it also improved reload speed.
The M10 was only produced from 1942 until 1943 and approximately 6,406 were made.
PANZER Insight germany tried ti make an m10 copy to get behind the lines,but it looked horrid
@Zenus Pridgen there were different variants of the gun, but the E8 actually stands for the suspension system it actually has nothing to do with the gun mounted on the Sherman.
And knocking a tank out could mean anything, from taking out the tracks to shooting it in the side, so if it said on paper that a M10 knocked out a Tiger 2 it could have done that in a lot of ways.
@@brianakinfenwa9601 indeed the Erzats mission a mission that was eventually canceled and the tanks were still used.
@Zenus Pridgen the m4a3e8 can penetrate the tiger front at 1000 meters
@Zenus Pridgen - The M4A3E8 Shermans did not have the same gun as the M10 Wolverine TDs. The M10 was armed with the M7 3-inch (76.2mm) gun whereas the M4A3E8 had the M1 76mm gun. Despite the similarity in bore size/caliber, they were not the same gun nor did they use the same ammunition. As far as their performance against the latest and most-protected German tanks and AFVs, with the exception of the British Ordnance QF 17-pounder gun and the American M3 90mm gun, none of the AT guns in the Anglo-American inventory could reliably deal with them at practical combat ranges, especially frontally - by the time of summer 1944. However, as the war went on, and improved, souped-up ammo made it into the supply stream for all of the different tank and AT guns, this situation improved somewhat. By that time, too, Anglo-American forces had evolved better methods for handling the Panthers, Tigers and other advanced designs they happened to encounter. A combined arms approach often worked best and with the least loss of life. A well dug-in Panther or Tiger might not flinch at a platoon of Shermans, but throw in some air and artillery support, or maybe some TDs in flanking/rear positions, and the odds were changed considerably. I don't care how formidable your tank or tank destroyer, a 6-inch (155mm) "Long Tom" dropping shots in on your from a high-trajectory is going to ruin your day. Especially a time-on-target barrage.
As for my favorite U.S. armored fighting vehicles of WWII the M10 & M36 series is it. Granted the turret is open topped but still alot of German tank crews despised them because they were faster then the Sherman's and had a more nastier bite.
When I was stationed in West Germany back in the 80's, I met and befriended a Co-Driver of a Tiger II during WWII and he stated that his tank commander always worried about the U.S. TD's over Sherman's because they had a nasty bite he lost his Panzer IV in North Africa to an M10 at Kessering Pass and escaped capture only to be captured at Falliese during Operation Cobra by American Infantry (Rangers) while fighting to overtake the hill the Rangers captured and held a few day prior and was surprised by the American Bazooka which took out their Tiger II's right drive sprocket and ruptured the armor by the Co-drivers feet, the gentleman stated that the German Army tried to retake the hill multiple times and lost more tanks and infantry to those Rangers who was only armed with small arms and bazookas, he was about one of close to a hundred German soldiers captured in that fight, he said the Germans really didn't want to escape because they where getting better food and treatment then what they where receiving from their own army, so they just sat on their hands and waited & wished the Americans to win and get shipped to the Allies back lines as P.O.W's.
Operation Lüttich? aka Mortain Counterattack?
US held hill 314 against several German Panzer division attacks for days. However they weren't Rangers, but 2nd BN, 120th Infantry Regiment of the 30th Inf Division.
@@saltymonke3682 The Co-Driver thought they where Rangers, because they fought like Rangers very fierce and precise in their attacks.
@@cudathehawgjetfixer7520 well, 30th ID was called "Roosevelt's SS" for a reason.
@Cuda thanks for sharing this story which offers great insight that tigers and other nazi tanks were not "invincible".
*Kasserine Pass. Falaise pocket. Cool story though.
Brutally efficient weapon.
In those record film,they're all heroes to their country. God bless u all.All of heroes of WWII.Bothside
Thanks to everybody that joined in on the premiere video, was great talking to you guys in chat.
If you have a feeling of deja vu, this video was re-uploaded because of a small error.
But I hope to see you all in the next video.
The concept of a purpose-built anti tank vehicle was adopted because there was a tacit recognition that the M4 Sherman was under gunned and under protected. Integrating an M10 or M18 gun carriage into our forces that had greater speed and mobility was meant to counter the greater guns and armor of German tanks. In practice, battles seldom unfolded as planned and the faster shot and experience of crews on both sides made the difference. We ultimately won the tank war by having produced vehicles in greater numbers. This wasn't much solace to those brave tank crews who fought on despite being outmatched.
Great narration I learned so much.
Thank you captain obvious.
More graceful than the dance of the sugarplum fairy, brings a tear to my eye
The M10 tank destroyer was an American tank destroyer during WW2, it was officially called the 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 and never Wolverine during the war.
It was armed with the 3-inch (76.2 mm) M7 gun on a modified Sherman tank chassis.
The M10 proved to be an excellent tank destroyer, but the open-topped turret left the crew vulnerable and a lot of crew were lost because of artillery fire, on the other hand the open-topped turret gave excellent visibility which was valuable to a tank destroyer and it also improved reload speed.
The M10 was only produced from 1942 until 1943 and approximately 6,406 were made.
The clip shows at 5:54 that it is a footage of Spahis, a French cavalry detachment of the Second Armoured division (2ème D.B.)
Hello Mr. 40’s era reporter, I’ll take two please.
Gothic music. Bang on.
Again great job with the video !!!!!
Another interesting story about my grandfather was he needed some gas for his M-10 and came across a fuel depot guarded by some of Pattons goons. They refused to give him fuel saying that Patton ordered only to give fuel to Pattons tanks. He had to take the fuel by force via gun point with a 1911 .45. He said if he didnt get fuel he would of been a sitting duck for all the panzers and 88s lurking around. He knew the Germans had a better tank. The German tanks could quickly make swiss cheese out of any Sherman or M-10 unfortunately it wasnt a tank that got him but a ground attack plane. I believe all the stories because Ive heard all types of crazy things about Patton and similar WW2 accounts from other veterans that collaborate these stories.
Thank you for the story and the attack plane had some truth to it, because most of the M10 tanks were lost because of the open-topped turret.
@ nonya biz: Thanks for relaying those stories. Very interesting stuff. I'm not excusing what Patton's men did or did not do; I wasn't there so how would I know? I just wanted to comment that there was a huge and hugely-profitable black market in liberated Europe (behind the lines, in other words), and anything that wasn't nailed down - or put under guard - would often be stolen. It was a big problem, because rear-area personnel in supply depots were diverting badly needed cold weather gear, for example, for their own use or to sell, when the guys trapped at Bastogne need it, and so forth. The paratroopers in the 101st A/B didn't get their "shoe-pacs" - their cold-weather/water-proof lined boots - until after the siege ended and the weather had moderated. Why? Because so many of them had been stolen or diverted in "midnight requisitions" at the supply dump. And POL - petroleum-oil-lubricants - were the most-sought-after commodity of all.
Heck of a story about your dad, though, and his M10.Not only had to fight the Germans, but guys who were supposed to be on the same team!
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Ya I believe the stories because I came across other stories from vets that didnt know my grandpa and they all told similar stories collaborating much of what he said. He wasnt punished for the stunt but his tank was blown up by an attack plane so I dont think the US Army discipline him because of that and probably felt sorry for him since his whole crew was killed but him. He was sent to the rear to fix tanks because he was one of the best mechanics out there. He graduated in the top 3 students out of 300 Army recruits. He said that probably saved his life being a good mechanic.
@@nonyabiz9487 - Glad he got home safe...
Looks like most if not all of the action sequences show it in an infantry support role.
Indeed, it would be used for everything because they simply had it around.
If the carry the gun down and to the right it gives the driver more room to drive with his head out.
Thank you for the information.
My father was the C/O of the 634th TD Bttn. He never spoke of the war.
You have done a great job compiling this terrific M10 footage. Do you have anything on the Achilles M10?
Martin, if you are still interested, the Osprey Military title on the M10 discusses this variant of the basic design, which mounted the superb British Ordnance QF 17-pounder high-velocity gun instead of the standard U.S. 3-inch gun.
The ad was beautiful, it was a nice commercial. Until the music changed to despair and death of war.
Will you look at that all this and it makes crop circles too .
The British / Canadian version of the M 10 was called the Achilles also sported a very nice flash supresser on the muzzle .
I didn't have a flash suppressor it was just an ordinary muzzle brake with a counter weight added to it.
@@PanzerInsight
Sorry but this time your wrong
I just finished a model of the Canadian Achilles M10 and it does have a flash suppressor also while I'm at it so does the Australian version of the M7 priest .
@@johnrettig1880 you're confusing a muzzle brake which is intended to redirect a portion of propellant gases to counter recoil and unwanted muzzle rise, a flash suppressor is intended to hide an unwanted flash, no tanks in ww2 had does and I don't think any modern day tank either.
@@PanzerInsight
Then your no expert on military equipment .
To were I've supplied models for 14 military museums in my lifetime . I'm 62 and didn't use the internet because it didn't exist when I researched the models and dioramas .
The UK forces of Canada and Australia had American made tanks and they exchanged some of the main guns to their UK famillers ( aka ) 25 lbs and so on .
And these guns had the flash superessers .
Furthermore I'm , working on some more British Armor two inparticuler the Cromwell and Churchill and the Crocodile .
And they also have Flash Superessers .
Furthermore to say that No Tanks had mussel flash seperessers is also inaccurate because nearly all of Germany's armor had some sort of flash suppressor on them .
@@johnrettig1880I really doubt, you're an expert, when you can't even write a proper sentence, or spell flash SUPPRESSOR correct. XD
But were is your proof? do you have any links about these flash suppressors, If so, I will shut up and go eat my own words.
A excelent weapons platform both for the US 76 and the british 17 pdr gun. Although it had some flaws it was still in my opinion a very good self propelled gun for its time.
I wonder why they didnt rebuild it as a atillery vehicle later when it was more or less replaced by the M18 and M36. After all if they could fit a 17 pdr gun with its massive gun breach in the turret I feel like they could have also fit a 105mm howitzer in [like the one on the M4 (105)]. And yes I know that it was already used as a atillery vehicle with its regular gun since it had indirect fire capability but the high velocity 76mm guns did not exactly have the best HE rounds.
@ Jakob C. - That's an interesting question. Your normal tank or TD mounts a high-velocity flat-shooting "direct-fire" weapon, rather than a howitzer or typical indirect fire lower-velocity gun. If you have researched the history of U.S. tank destroyers - and it sounds as if you have - then you probably know that there were some attempts to turn the TD battalions into ad-hoc artillery units which could do on-call indirect fire missions like regular artillery. This was done in Italy, I know, and probably elsewhere also, when there was a surplus to needs number of tank destroyers around and no enemy tanks to engage or infantry operations to support. Special sights had to be designed and fabricated, and since the elevation on the main gun wasn't sufficient for ultra-high angle firing, they often had to drive up into ramps to execute their fire missions. Similar methods were later used by U.S.-NATO tanks and TDs in the Korean War.
Far as converting them to assault guns or self-propelled guns, maybe someone somewhere in the military hierarchy suggested it, but if so, I have never seen evidence of that. It may be that it wasn't done for the simple reason that the U.S. Army already a number of successful self-propelled mounts in service, including the M7 Priest 105mm self-propelled gun carriage, based on the old M3 tank chassis,and later made on the M4 chassis.
There was also a self-propelled version of the 155mm gun, termed the M12 155mm gun motor carriage, nicknamed the "Long Tom" for its powerful gun. This was based on the M3 chassis with a spade retrofitted to allow it to dig in for recoil absorption. The weapon could be fired without digging it in, but that was discouraged due to wear-and tear on the vehicles and crews alike, and reserved for emergencies only. Accuracy and rate of fire also suffered from such unprepared use. And before these came on line, the army had experimented, via tank destroyer command, with M3 half-tracks mounting the 105mm howitzer.
There was also an ample supply of towed conventional field artillery pieces, and plenty of prime movers for them. And SP guns are more-expensive and time-consuming to produce than stand-alone guns and mounts. As you probably already know, the on-going doctrinal war within the U.S. Army between advocates of towed versus motored, self-propelled artillery raged pretty much the whole war, and never did simmer down completely. And even when most soldiers accepted that a mixture of both was needed, then the arguments began over the correct ratio of one to the other, and so on.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 you literally commented some serious Research and that was wonderful of you giving us braincells to learn about this tank
@@caroleansoldier382 - Well, I'd better go buy a bigger hat as they say in Texas. Thanks for the comment.
Muito bom! Very good!
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3:38 what is THAT going down the road?
That's a M5 tractor.
I do not understand why they put open turrets on, why not just put an enclosed turret.
A open top turret has the advantage, of better visibility and faster reloading .
@@PanzerInsight also the doctrine is tank destroyer meaning that this tank is design for anti tank warfare in fact the motto of the tank destroyer force is: seek shoot destroy
Sadly though, the survival rate of the tank was greater than the survival rate of the crew...
It was ok, but being spotted by an enemy tank was probably never good for your health.
@@PanzerInsight being shot at first in an engagement while you were in any armoured vehicle is *never* good.
I wonder what is the difference betweet tank and tank destroyer.. BecauSe this one has a rotating turret
Gun mantlet looks like a nice shot trap.
It would get fucked if it was looked at by a gun so didn’t matter
It would get fucked if it was looked at by a gun so didn’t matter
It would get fucked if it was looked at by a gun so didn’t matter
@@winstonchurchill237 getting spotted first by another tank was probably never good for your health.
The tank in the pictures was a 90mm gun, the 76MM gun had a muzzle break.
76mm didn't have a muzzle break, you're confused with the Achilles.
Wow super speed tank destroyers of US army are US army first army using tank destroyers as independence groups facing enemies?or they were using them in mixture with Sherman tanks at the end of 2nd world war? Thanks
M10s were used in yhe US Army as a reserve to fill in breaks or weak spots in the line. They also were assigned as infantry support when needed all assignments were at platoon or company size elements. British and Canadians used them mixed in with armor units a side note is that the UK manned theirs with royal artillery men
@@bthestigman9667 thanks for knowledges 👍
@@bthestigman9667 thanks
Loses sound 0.38 to 2.48??
RUclips broken copyright system striking down there own music deleted the sound from the video.
Almost every one that was filmed on the move had the turret turned to the 1 o'clock position. Wonder why they did that.
(edit) Found it-the driver couldn't open his hatch with the gun pointed forward.
Good info!
It was to give the drive a better view and to help get out of the tank if he had to.
The assistant driver was probably riding on the extra folding seat in the turret, and didn't occupy the front right seat when traveling.
I was trying figure that out too. Thought maybe it was safety to not point the barrel at the vehicle in front of you but no other vehicle did that.
Took me half the video to figure this out. Also why it is shown with the gun reversed so often.
I think this was called the "wildcat" or maybe the "Bulldog" but I have never heard of a tank called the "Wolverine".
No, those were other TD. The M36 Jackson (90mm cannon) and the M18 Hellcat. The M10 was the most common. The M36 had the biggest gun. The M18 was the fastest (100kph)
It was only referred to as a Wolverine by the British. If was a standard issue M10 (3" gun) in British service it was called a Wolverine, if it was a 17pdr conversion it was called an Achilles
It was actually never called Wolverine during the war and it's a post war name.
@@PanzerInsight We have different sources of research then
have you a video bout rge Achilles ?
Been collecting footage for a while now, but will take a while before there will be a video.
@@PanzerInsight congratulations for the M36 Jackson
You're welcome 😁 😂
Sadly, the M 10 was NOT a "tank", and had very little armor and no roof over the turret whatsoever.
Being the same size of a "tank" and having the big gun...many infantry commanders USED it as a "tank" and put it near the front when clearing enemy towns...and the crews of the M 10 suffered very high attrition in that role and were very easy targets where the lack of a roof made the turrets perfect baskets to catch enemy grenades, etc.
The ONLY way to deploy U.S. Tank Destroyers in that war would have been to deploy them well behind the line of resistance and giving the big gun a good field of view.
Was this used in the Pacific does anyone know?
I don't think it was.
@@PanzerInsight Ah ok. I'm about to make one and I'm thinking about dioramas. The Hellcat was apparently
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So why didn't they take the gun from the M10 and put it on the Sherman. Don't care how much work it would have been.
The actual did something better and used the 90 mm from the Jackson and placed inside the turret of a Sherman, but still had an open turret.
@@PanzerInsight Thank you. Was this done at the factory or in the field by the mechanics?
It was a actual production tank designated the M36B1.
@@PanzerInsight Why weren't there more of them in Europe? My question has always been why the Sherman was our main tank during WWII in Europe. I know it was there for infantry support, but a good mortar group could do that like they did in the Pacific. The allies had seen the Tiger in N. Africa and knew that the Sherman was no match for the Tiger. And by the time of Normandy I'm sure they knew about the Panther. Just doesn't make since unless they didn't care about the people in the Shermans. Thank you for talking to me.
Yea I hate when pests get into my foxhole
All good until a Panther or Tiger showed up.
just the panther or king tiger
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