How the Men Broke the World - Wheel of Time Lore DOCUMENTARY

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Wizards and Warriors new animated fantasy documentary lore video will talk about the world of Wheel of Time created by the late Robert Jordan in a series concluded by Brandon Sanderson. In the first episode we will talk about the Second Age, the age of Legends, when the humanity reached the peak of its potential through the One Power of the Creator under the leadership of the Aes Sedai, and how the hubris and greed of some allowed the Dark One - Shai'tan to enter the world to corrupt it, leading to the War of Power. The Light is led by Lews Therin Telamon, the "Dragon" and his attack on the Dark One leads to the Breaking of the World.
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  • @ninjabreadman1993r
    @ninjabreadman1993r Год назад +285

    Great video, and it helps make something that was explained a little convolutedly in the books a lot easier to understand! You did get a few things slightly wrong, though, as far as I can recall.
    1) Lanfear was never Lews Therin's mistress. They were lovers as students, but Lews Therin left her when he realised she loved the prestige of being his lover more than she loved *him.* She made several attempts to win him back, but he always refused her, as far as we know. "Mistress" implies he was cheating on his wife, which isn't the case.
    2) The Sharom's original purpose was known; as far as I can remember, it was a building created by the Aes Sedai, and used as a laboratory to run experiments. It was - to quote The Shadow Rising - a "celebration of the triumph of their art."
    3) The experiment wasn't a failure. It was a resounding success; they were attempting to reach the source of The True Power by boring a hole in the Pattern, because The True Power seemed to lie outside it. Shai'Tan - The Dark One - *was* the source of The True Power, and by boring a hole to its source, they bore a hole into his prison. It backfired horribly, but the experiment *was* a success. Unfortunately. The explosion was caused by the bore, not the other way around; the Bore *was* the intention, they just didn't realise they had found The Dark One's prison.
    4) Balefire was initially used extensively in the war of power, but both sides quickly stopped using it when they realised that it was damaging the fabric of reality; the effects were so dangerous that even The Forsaken and the Dreadlords stopped using it, an order that was eventually rescinded during Tarmon Gaiden.
    But those are nitpicks. The video is well streamlined and easily understood, so kudos on making a complicated piece of lore easily understood! :D

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +4

      1) He said that in the video, Mistress, lover whatever (you are being picky), it's later said that she went to the dark one after he left her and became Lanfear because Lewis married... if he was unmarried it meant he wasnt having an affair with Lanfear.
      2)The Sharom was aglobe that appeared that they studied but didnt truly know its nature and when they broke it they released the dark one.
      3)The experiment was a failure because with it they released the Dark One... so in reality it was the cause of all the pain that came later, and thus a massive failure for humanity.
      4)Its Tarmon Gai'don, and they still used belfire but with care. Still it's correct to say it was a reseach/invention of the age of legend which he said. You just added extra info.

    • @ninjabreadman1993r
      @ninjabreadman1993r Год назад +31

      @@Alejojojo6
      I admitted in my comment that I was being a little picky. ^_^
      1) This was picky, I acknowledged that. The fact remains that you don't call somebody's girlfriend a "mistress." Your Mistress is your Affair Partner. Since the purpose of this video is to be concise and clear, using the wrong term muddies the water.
      2) I don't think you're right. To the best of my recollection, and from what I can tell double checking myself on the various Wikis, the Sharom was implied to have been built by the Aes Sedai. The breaking of the globe was not what released Shai'Tan; the bore was created inside the globe, and it was the opening of the bore that broke the Sharom, not the other way around. It went Research --> Bore --> Breaking Of Sharom, not Breaking --> Bore.
      3) The results of the experiment were awful, yes. But in the strictest technical sense, the experiment was a success.
      What was the goal? To create a hole in the Pattern to access the location of The True Source.
      What happened? They created a hole in the pattern that accessed the location of The True Source.
      It may be splitting hairs a little, but an experiment can have a bad result and be a mistake on the macro level, but still be successful in its initial goals. EG, Jurassic Park; they wanted to bring dinosaurs back. They succeeded. Was it ultimately proven to be a bad idea? Yes. Doesn't mean the initial experiment's goals were not met.
      4) The correction was that it was stated that they used it for the majority of the war, which wasn't quite true. They used it for about half the war, then both sides kind of agreed to not use it any more; it's stated in the books that neither side used it in the late stages *at all,* and besides individual uses in small duels during the book series, balefire wasn't used en masse by the Shadow's Forces until the restriction was lifted and the order given in The Final Battle. But yeah, this point was just adding a little extra info.
      I'm not sure what your point is, though. xD

    • @methany8788
      @methany8788 Год назад +8

      There are some other minor mistakes, such as Lew's Therin's wife being called Aes Sedai (iirc she couldn't channel - EDIT: I WAS MISTAKEN, SHE WAS PROBABLY AES SEDAI) and Shayol Ghul not being the site of the (not) "failed" experiment. The former was actually a holiday resort and the latter was located in a big city. Still, I'm glad this series is being covered, and mistakes are unavoidable in this big an undertaking.
      Edit: Watching further, the classic balefire mistake is also made. It doesn't entirely burn someone out of the pattern, even though that's stated at least once in the series (unreliable narrator). I also had to be set straight about that at some point.
      Quote from a RJ interview (edit: it's actually a quote from a fan signing) in 1998: "If someone is balefired, the Dark One can't reincarnate them. But they CAN be spun back out into the Wheel as normal. Balefire is NOT the eternal death of the soul." (copied from Theoryland, though multiple sites have the quote)

    • @ninjabreadman1993r
      @ninjabreadman1993r Год назад +7

      @@methany8788
      -- Ilyena: It doesn't say. As far as I remember, we don't know one way or the other whether she was a Channeller or not, they never specify to my knowledge.
      -- Travel Inn Shayol Ghul: Ah, good catch! There was something niggling at me, but I couldn't figure out what it was! Yeah, Shayol Ghul is simply where the touch was greatest, not where the experiment took place. Two different places.
      -- Balefire: Truuuue, it only burns you out of the pattern back a certain way. Not destroying the soul, just erasing your actions in the past depending on the strength of the balefire used, which is why it damages the pattern; unweaving certain threads and all the consequences therein. Though that *is* a second hand source (it's a signing report, not an official interview) so some caution in using it as a source should be taken.

    • @methany8788
      @methany8788 Год назад +1

      @ninjabreadman1993r good point about the source on Balefire, though I do lean towards believing that one.
      Just did some more digging on Ilyena, and you're right. No idea how that popped into my head. If anything, there is evidence that she WAS Aes Sedai (from another signing).
      Edit: actually, there is "official" confirmation on Balefire. Both the Companion entry on it and a Sanderson quote apparently back it up

  • @efraim3364
    @efraim3364 Год назад +320

    if you're gonna do deep dives into this series you have got A LOT of work ahead

    • @dirk903
      @dirk903 Год назад +12

      Lmao, that's for sure!

    • @anypercentdeathless
      @anypercentdeathless Год назад +9

      Or find someone who has-either way, Wizards and Warrior blew it...
      ...in their typical lazy fashion.

    • @Bacchus
      @Bacchus Год назад

      ​@@anypercentdeathlesswdym

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Год назад +6

      @@Bacchus His info on the Sharom is wrong.

    • @Jacksonmoonstar1714
      @Jacksonmoonstar1714 Год назад +8

      @@anypercentdeathlessThat’s so bitter why do you hate this channel so much 😂

  • @iitim2152
    @iitim2152 Год назад +163

    R.I.P Robert Jordan. His death was the largest literary tragedy in our time.

    • @hedottenno
      @hedottenno Год назад +14

      How great of him (and his wife) to enable his series to be concluded. Wheel of time wouldn't be loved as much if we'd been without the last books.

    • @iitim2152
      @iitim2152 Год назад +10

      @@hedottenno which were probably done as well as possible under the circumstances but still aren't what we would have gotten of he'd survived.

    • @olorin3815
      @olorin3815 Год назад +6

      ​@@iitim2152 yeah and its a shame he had plans to write a sequel with mat and tuon goin back to seanchan land reconquering it (and presumably freeing the damane, he even had like a hint for that there was a legend "Legend has it that when a time of dire need comes, the Imperial family will return to the Towers and "right that which is wrong"" and towers of midnight were the place where creator of adam was made damane and basically where seanchan started making women damane )

    • @korionterivers9995
      @korionterivers9995 Год назад +1

      @@iitim2152I kno exactly what u mean. My heart was broken when u heard he passed away. The final product was in know way equivalent to what we could’ve had.

    • @hedottenno
      @hedottenno Год назад +2

      @korionterivers9995 I have to respectfully disagree with both of you. I think Brandon taking over gave the series some much needed push to get over the line. But sadly, we will never know how different Jordans end product would have been.

  • @MonkehMike
    @MonkehMike 5 месяцев назад

    The Wheel Of Time is a series that I keep forgetting that I love. Time to go book hunting soon… to get the whole set and start a lowing through that universe again! :)

  • @spudthepug
    @spudthepug Год назад +23

    Oh it’s not centuries between The Breaking and the beginning of the books, it’s 3 millennia. 3 millennia with excellent explanations as to why progress doesn’t get past the medieval period.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +8

      A millennia or several millennia is still many centuries... 3 millennia is 30 centuries. So what they said in the video it's still accurate

    • @thomasrinschler6783
      @thomasrinschler6783 Год назад +4

      They're well past medieval times. They have printing presses and clocks, while not common, aren't terribly rare either I think RJ described it as 16th - 17th century without gunpowder.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Год назад +4

      @@thomasrinschler6783 18th Century, actually. Just before gunpowder.
      The Last Battle is based on the Battle Of Austerliz, where Napoleon won a great victory against two armies.

    • @olorin3815
      @olorin3815 Год назад +2

      @@shauntempley9757 i mean i wouldnt say its 18th century sure battle was based on that but gunpowder started being used in europe as early as 15th century and society wasnt rly 18th century equivalent either thats too late i think probably 16-17th is more accurate with some things mixed here and there

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Год назад

      @@olorin3815 It is. Origins Of The Wheel Of Time says RJ had a map of the Battle Of Austerliz.

  • @chickenmonger123
    @chickenmonger123 Год назад +3

    I just started the series again. I’m in that first sequence in the beginning of book two. Neat coincidence.

  • @JoshTurner-os9ti
    @JoshTurner-os9ti 11 месяцев назад

    Can't wait for the next video. I loved the first few books but then life happened and I didn't come back.

  • @Minister596
    @Minister596 Год назад

    YES! Thank you! I remember asking for this series back when this channel first started.

  • @danielmorrison3120
    @danielmorrison3120 Год назад +1

    Yay, please continue working on this series ❤

  • @harris9324
    @harris9324 10 месяцев назад +1

    The influence of Asian philosophies - Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism etc. is strong in this franchise.

  • @brendenbarlett9451
    @brendenbarlett9451 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ayyye I’m all for a Wheel of Time deep-dive

  • @julesdebeckker627
    @julesdebeckker627 Год назад +1

    Well now I don't have another choice but to actually finish the series by the time you guys make a video about it

  • @brattneyrose5652
    @brattneyrose5652 Год назад

    Anyone else flinch every time he said Shai'tan? Or is that just me? 😅

  • @mapletree3434
    @mapletree3434 Год назад +1

    1. So, was lanfear mistress or lover? In WoT, I know, multiple partners were not an issue but I'm curious. Was he involved with her before falling for Elein or simultaneously?
    2. Was Lews' initial plan 100% fool proof? I've noticed a trend for blaming female Aes Sedai for the failure and nixing the plan. However, if they participated, wouldn't it be possible for ALL OF THEM to be forced to use One power directly, get tainted and go insane? I also don't blame the men, to be clear. Lews & Co thought they're doing the best they could do. A bit of hubris is human universal trait among the best men or women, this or that demographic group (Nynaeve, I'm looking at you and I love you! :) ).
    Good video!

  • @whiskeySe7en
    @whiskeySe7en Год назад +1

    Do "Malazan book of the Fallen" best fantasy series of all time

  • @shauntempley9757
    @shauntempley9757 Год назад +2

    That is not true about the Sharom being unknown. It was 1000 metres in diameter. It was built by an Aes Sedai engineer called Jorlan Corbesan. Basically, he was the Aes Sedai equivalent of Geordi Laforge from Star Trek.
    It was the worlds top research facility at the time, and it was suspended using the planets magnetic fields, not the One Power, and suspended 1000 metres above the worlds top university in one of their cities.
    When the Sharom exploded, Jorlan Corbesan was killed, since he was inside the facility, and the ruins crashed down on the university and city below, totally destroying both.

  • @meprivate6923
    @meprivate6923 Год назад +2

    Centuries in the future and centuries past, my friend.

  • @adamnesico
    @adamnesico Год назад +2

    When is gonna apear the last video of the mogol invasions?

  • @stephanietan4389
    @stephanietan4389 Год назад +1

    Wow... helped a lot

  • @JamesKGood
    @JamesKGood 2 месяца назад

    The reason Lewis and the 100 companions attacked shoul goul is because a city where the keys to the choden cal were located was attacked by the dark

  • @LaMarco0
    @LaMarco0 Год назад

    Fascinating lore!

  • @sergiogamito7909
    @sergiogamito7909 Год назад

    Dont forget the other franchises you already started pls ❤

  • @Mattzoni
    @Mattzoni Год назад +2

    is this channel by the same dude as kings and generals, or is it an AI voice ? :D

    • @WizardsandWarriors
      @WizardsandWarriors  Год назад +2

      Same team. We don't use AI

    • @Mattzoni
      @Mattzoni Год назад +1

      ah awesome ! if you'd link them channels id definitely have checked this out earlier !
      love fantasy, I don't know if the fan base is big enough, but if you'd explore the Cosmere it'd make my year :D!
      keep up the good work !
      @@WizardsandWarriors

  • @Ivovify
    @Ivovify 10 месяцев назад

    I think that in the end, it were the woman that broke the world through inaction.

  • @mtnman892
    @mtnman892 Год назад

    Please more wheel of time videos.maybe make it a patreon series

  • @wolfbane7497
    @wolfbane7497 Год назад

    11:00 Amazon version of Wheel of Time States somehow the dragon was arrogant and it's his fault that the world got broken. Completely omitting the fact that the women were working against him. It was their arrogance to think that they could steal the dark one up and build a better prison. Or just blast him with the one power itself.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +2

    Henry V survives series please 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @chadst0r
    @chadst0r Год назад

    this is based off the books right and not the TV series right?

  • @loslobos786
    @loslobos786 11 месяцев назад +1

    For any Amazon watchers who might be confused don't feel bad the Show is Wheel of Time in name only and bares little if any resemblance to the actual story in the books.

  • @artemo.shapovaloff5577
    @artemo.shapovaloff5577 Год назад +6

    Like the TV series) Thanks for this lore, guys

  • @alexcavoli6191
    @alexcavoli6191 Год назад +4

    She wasn't Lews Therin's mistress. She wishes she was that hoe. She was his girlfriend until he meet Elyana? Not sure how to spell it. He dumped her ass and never looked back, she is still super pissed about that.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +2

      Thats what he mean, they said it was her lover, mistress then married and leave her and thus she turned to the dark one and became Lanfear. It's in the video.

    • @anonymouslyopinionated656
      @anonymouslyopinionated656 Год назад +1

      Ilyenaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @azmal6158
    @azmal6158 Год назад

    Shaytan... ive heard this before i feel 🙈

  • @hilkosmid5374
    @hilkosmid5374 Год назад

    hallo, great accurate series everything from the books no woke shit from the socaled adaptation from amazon and rafe. i hope we get more from your wheel of time from robert jordans books episodes. thamks for this !!!

  • @Lemme1892
    @Lemme1892 Год назад

    When you realise that the problem could have been solved if the females stopped being stubborn and actually help in the battle 😢

  • @mEmory______
    @mEmory______ Год назад

    The grammer is a little odd at times, but good video nevertheless.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 Год назад

      You should add examples so they'll know what's actually wrong. Also, you might want to check your own spelling. ;)

    • @mEmory______
      @mEmory______ Год назад

      @@mokarokas-1727 lol, grammar and spelling are the worst.
      It's 'the one power' not 'one power', and 'the dragon' not 'dragon', it sounds really awkward without the proper words setting up these terms.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 Год назад

      @@mEmory______ - But... they DO say "the One Power" and "the Dragon". They said "the nickname 'Dragon'" once, in quotes. That's it.

    • @mEmory______
      @mEmory______ Год назад

      @@mokarokas-1727 no, they just say "he channeled one power" for example, its really odd

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 Год назад

      @@mEmory______ - Where?

  • @justinah7400
    @justinah7400 11 месяцев назад +4

    The power tripping female Aes Sedai refused to help Lews Therin lock up the Dark One which forced Lews Therin to do the deed with Saidin alone which left the men vulnerable to the Dark One's taint. The female Aes Sedai should shoulder a big portion of the blame for the breaking. At least Lews Therin and the 100 companion acted instead of putting petty politics first like the women.

    • @PurpleOpinionM
      @PurpleOpinionM 3 месяца назад

      Um they had an alternate plan, to use the choden kal. But the forsaken captured those lands. Also imagine saidar and saidin being tainted together. The Fateful Concord was a good decision

  • @undertone8367
    @undertone8367 Год назад +203

    This is what the TV show missed, the fact that Lews Therin had no choice but to try and seal the dark one. He wasn't just some arrogant dick who doomed civilization because he was a man.

    • @CulinVlau
      @CulinVlau Год назад +81

      The show missed a lot because of their fear of offending modern sensibilities.

    • @xKinjax
      @xKinjax Год назад +52

      To be fair this is the implication in the early books as well simply because the Aes Sedai perpetuated the lie that men doomed the world. I don't remember if it's implied that the Black Adjah was responsible for this or not but they certainly embraced the lie as an organization.

    • @marcbartuschka6372
      @marcbartuschka6372 Год назад +18

      @@xKinjax Well when the male Aes Sedai caused so much havoc, and with the centuries of hunting down men who go insane or proclaim (falsly) to be the Dragon Reborn, it is not THAT hard to understand that this clouded the way the distant past was retold by the female Aes Seadi. We speak about a time thousands of years ago, so it is only natural that all the years since thaz did not go without having a profound influence. So I think it was in part calculation to distant themself from those who almost brought humanity down, grief of the suffering and the slowy changing of the way they saw the male user of the one power, that created the way the Aes Sedai saw things.

    • @xKinjax
      @xKinjax Год назад +36

      @@marcbartuschka6372 But the female Aes Sedai are as much at fault for the world breaking as the males. Lanfear and all the other female Forsaken were Aes Sedai too. In fact the world might not have broken at all if they had helped Lews Therin when he asked them.
      Even more damning is that it feels like they never made any effort to try to cleanse the male half of the Source. It's not like male channelers instantly go insane when they try to channel, some are normal for many years yet it doesn't feel like they made any attempt to help them. I guess it's pretty ironic that they're pretty much exterminating themselves by hunting down the male channelers instead of helping them. You could say the fact that the Oath Rod is a sham and keeps their lives short is also another punishment.

    • @marcbartuschka6372
      @marcbartuschka6372 Год назад

      @@xKinjax Well the world breaking was not so much the war (which was bad enough) but the insanity of the male Aes Sedai - or so I thought. In that neither the female Aes Sedai or the 13 had much influence (the 13 were in prison and the Aes Sedai did their best to stop it). I think the female Aes Sedai must have felt deeply betrayed - seeing the atrocities by their former comrades and friends may have influced their position (and it is not so that all of them at once turned against the men, some cooperated with some men to hide the horn of valere and the dragonbanner I thought, if I remember right - it is years that I last read the books). We see mostly the Aes Sedai 3.000 years later, not the Aes Sedai 10, or 20 years after the events at the End of the war.
      And I would not say that they are to blame too much for not trying to clean up the male side. First it would be hard for them to incluence it. Second - after seeing how the world was almost destroyed, would you take any risk that may result in poluting Saidar too? I mean eager experiments was what exactly brought the world in so much troubble the first time. It may not be noble or brave by them, but under the circumstances I would hardly blame them.

  • @rainmaker9300
    @rainmaker9300 Год назад +132

    The First Age is heavily implied to be our own Age (during which the mysterious traveling pylons were created apparently). The Second Age is the Age of Legends, after which comes the Third Age of the setting of the books. The Third Age in turn influences our own age, as the wheel turns. Rand al'Thor becomes Arthur, Thom Merrilin becomes Merlin, Perrin resembles Thor while Matrim resembles Odin. The wheel weaves as the wheel wills.

    • @kylediffusion9879
      @kylediffusion9879 Год назад

      Perrin thor, mat loki?

    • @temmy9
      @temmy9 Год назад +1

      ​@@kylediffusion9879mat is odin

    • @tanjianforever
      @tanjianforever Год назад +8

      ​@kylediffusion9879 he gave up his eye for knowledgeable... not tricks. Also, Odin is a warrior God, too.

    • @Guardian582
      @Guardian582 Год назад +5

      'Arthur' was not Rand, Arthur was Hawkwing

    • @rainmaker9300
      @rainmaker9300 Год назад +1

      @@Guardian582 That is the Third Age only, regarding Hawkwing. I meant that as the wheel turns, what was Rand al'Thor in an age long past becomes Arthur in our age (al'Thor --> Arthur, he picks up a sword from stone etc.). Similar to how in a future age Thom Merrilin becomes Merlin and so on.

  • @NicofTime...
    @NicofTime... 11 месяцев назад +6

    Wait a minute! Women broke the world by not listening to men. If women aided 100 companions in sealing the breach it would have been complete.

    • @PurpleOpinionM
      @PurpleOpinionM Месяц назад

      Un no, both halves might have been tainted

    • @PurpleOpinionM
      @PurpleOpinionM Месяц назад

      Lews theirns plan worked, but the dark one's counterstroke worked because he touched the male source through the 100 companions.

  • @andrewfelsher7872
    @andrewfelsher7872 Год назад +36

    I have several tiny nitpicks:
    1 - The events of the books (the end of the Third Age) are indeed "centuries" away from ours, but "millennia" would be more accurate.
    2 - The Oath Rod(s) would only have been used on offenders who can channel. "Muggles" would have been dealt with by other means.
    3 - "Moments" is a generous description of Skimming travel time. Skimming generally takes at least minutes. And instantaneous "conventional" traveling through Gateways would be a better demonstration of the fantastical elements of the Age of Legends.
    4 - The artwork here is incredible, but amusingly the drawing of Mierin (i.e. Lanfear) is somewhat unflattering lol.
    5 - I'm not sure describing the Bore as a rift in the Pattern is exactly accurate, but that's super nitpicky even for me.
    6 - The Bore did not allow Shai'tan to enter the world. It allowed him to touch and affect it, but he is still contained within his prison even while the Bore is open.
    7 - Technically Shayol Ghul does not protect the Bore, but the place on Earth where the Bore is... most noticable, shall we say? The Bore does not technically exist in a particular geographic location.
    8 - I'm not sure about the origin of the Blasted Lands. Perhaps they became barren as direct result of the Bore, but that might also be something that happened during the War of Power or the Breaking of the World.
    9 - Do we actually know that Ilyena was an Aes Sedai? Nothing in the Companion indicates this beyond her having three names.
    10 - Ishamael did not announce that he was joining Shai'tan by taking the name Ishamael. Ishamael was a name given to him by the side of the Light after he joined the Shadow. Also, *technically* it's "Betrayer of Hope" not "Traitor to Hope", but that seems to have been corrected in the captions.
    11 - I wouldn't say that Ishamael was the leader of the Forsaken during the Second Age. He was the most powerful and most prominent, but more of a "first among equals" than leader. For all of Aes Sedai egalitarianism, I would say he was more of a first among equals among the Forsaken than Lews Therin Telamon was among the Aes Sedai. (Not because Forsaken were more egalitarian, but because of backbiting and infighting.) Ishamael didn't really become "the leader" in any sense until later, and didn't officially become the leader until near the end of the Third Age.
    12 - Balefire does not completely remove someone from the Pattern. It removes them from the current moment of the Pattern and some time back, but their history in the Pattern is preserved beyond that point, and they can still be reborn in the future.
    13 - Lews Therin Telamon's attack on Shayol Ghul did NOT lock the Dark One in a new prison, but patched over the hole in his existing prison.
    All that said, I second everything @ninjabreadman1993r said. This is a great video that was clearly well-researched and the artwork is fantastic!

    • @danielbroome5690
      @danielbroome5690 Год назад +2

      I might be mistaken, but I believe that the chair of remorse may have been used on non-channelers for their crimes to make them feel what happened to their victims so they would empathize with them and not re-commit crimes. I might be wrong on that, but they definitely use it in the third age for a similar purpose at the tower. I think that it's used in the third age more to just punish people with nightmare images, but it seems like it can be used to insert memory or emotion into people and I am almost certain someone comments about a non-oath rod device at some point that was used on non-channelers in the AoL.

    • @MrHulaine
      @MrHulaine Год назад +1

      Adding to 12, they can be reborn naturally by the pattern, but not bought back unnaturally (hence it being a great weapon, aside from pattern-destroying drawbacks, for dealing with Forsaken so the Dark One couldn't resurrect them).
      Re there being more than 13 Forsaken, was there? I don't remember anything that indicated there was, but curious to know where its mentioned if I'm wrong?

    • @andrewfelsher7872
      @andrewfelsher7872 Год назад

      @@MrHulaine There were definitely more than 13 individuals who had the rank of Chosen at one time or another. Whether the number of Chosen was ever more than 13 at a given point, I'm not sure.
      From the Companion:
      "The thirteen called the Forsaken were the top ranking at the time of the Shayol Ghul strike-Ishamael always was-but others had risen and fallen."

    • @iand6078
      @iand6078 3 месяца назад

      Nice nitpicking. It jarred when they said Ishmael chose his name, translated it wrong, and confused skimming with travelling amongst others. Otherwise a very good summary, the first of this series I've seen so far

  • @Ζήνων-ζ1ι
    @Ζήνων-ζ1ι Год назад +15

    His coming shall be like the sharp edge of the plow, turning our lives in furrows from out of the places where we live in silence.
    He shall stretch forth his hand to catch the Shadow, and the world shall scream in pain of salvation. All Glory be to the Creator, and to the Light, and to he who shall be born again. May the Light save us from him.

  • @dalecrowe7757
    @dalecrowe7757 Год назад +38

    The Wheel of Time is both an epic scale writing endeavor and a heartbreaking read if you are cognizant of what the author was going through as it was being written. Jordan knew his abilities were fading as his meds began to take their toll and the decision was made to bring Sanderson on to help carry the series to completion.

    • @yuni-line8815
      @yuni-line8815 Год назад

      What happened to him??

    • @atheistapostate7019
      @atheistapostate7019 11 месяцев назад +5

      I didn’t think the series could be finished without Jordan, BUT man I was wrong! Sanderson did an amazing job finishing the series around Jordan’s notes

    • @baldbastardo
      @baldbastardo 10 месяцев назад

      Sanderson wasn't brought on as far as I know. He was hand picked to finish the series but wasn't a part of a collaborative effort or anything like that. He had extensive notes and continuity maps to work with, but didn't contribute anything original prior to penning the last 3 books as outlined.
      And fwiw he was the right guy to wrap it all up.

    • @carlsmith4568
      @carlsmith4568 10 месяцев назад +2

      That decision wasn’t made until after his death.

    • @Tyrgalon
      @Tyrgalon 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@yuni-line8815
      He got a serious blood disease that killed him in the end, he had it for a long time.

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 Год назад +41

    It's great to see that you are taking on the Wheel of Time. I've been eagerly waiting for this since you launched the channel.

  • @BK2207
    @BK2207 Год назад +56

    Happy to see you take on the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, imo the true inheritor of Tolkien's vision on fantasy.

    • @Revanchist
      @Revanchist Год назад +1

      That would probably be Guy Gavriel Kay not Robert Jordan.

    • @georgeeast5502
      @georgeeast5502 Год назад +3

      @@Revanchist I've never read GGK, but my brother DNF'd one of his books(Can't remember which), so I doubt he's anywhere near Tolkien. Imo no one is, rather all modern Fantasy greats(Martin, Rothfuss, Jordan, Sanderson) have each inherited pieces of his genius.

  • @Erik-um1zn
    @Erik-um1zn Год назад +9

    The Oath Rod only worked on channelers, as far as we can tell from the books. The more recently published Guide says otherwise, but that was published after RJ's death based on some notes.
    Also Balefire does not constitute a complete removal of the victim and their actions from the Pattern; it merely kills the victim back in time before they were hit by the Balefire, depending on the strength of the Balefire used. This could undo everything the victim had done back from several minutes to several hours. This had knock on effects of causality as the Pattern started to unravel reality with all the actions undone. Both side stopped using it as a result.
    Also, hunting down a male channeler and cutting them off from the One Power was know as "Gentling" them, not "taming."

    • @geraldjax
      @geraldjax 10 месяцев назад

      The oath rod was one of many binding rods. They had binding chairs for non-channelers

  • @Antareslul
    @Antareslul Год назад +71

    Ahhhh! Wheel of time! I've been waiting for this! I hope I get to see you guys cover the world of the First Law next.

  • @vanneli
    @vanneli Год назад +14

    Thank yuu so very much for doing this series. I have loved WoT for over 30 years, was surprised at the dedication of Robert Jordan to finish his series, even from beyond the grave. But most important, this series WILL deal with the book source, rather than the horrible abortion made and filmed in Prime.

  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Год назад +5

    fantasy ideas : elric saga, narnia, starcraft, starship troopers (book ver.) and barsoom

    • @ryanvouche254
      @ryanvouche254 Год назад

      Malazan series would be great but difficult for them

    • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
      @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Год назад

      @@ryanvouche254 they would to make a planned roadmap for that in the future after finishing some the lore vids

  • @Simtar123
    @Simtar123 Год назад +6

    I just started re reading these books 📚 😊 Favourite books by far ☺️

  • @jadersanctem
    @jadersanctem 5 месяцев назад +2

    I've been waiting to find a lore series about WoT! There's like a dozen for LotR, but Wheel of Time is lacking in that department. I can't wait to see character journeys and lore deep dives, thank you!

  • @neptunestylev
    @neptunestylev Год назад +6

    Cannot wait until The Last Battle and watching Matrim boat race the Foresaken generals.

  • @Alejojojo6
    @Alejojojo6 Год назад +10

    I wonder why you didnt introduce Graendal, Moghedian, Semigarde, Sammael, Rahvin and the others.... and just focused on Aginor, Demandred and Lanfear. (well and Ishamael).

    • @samdushukyan9595
      @samdushukyan9595 Год назад +5

      Its not their time...

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +2

      @@samdushukyan9595 It is their time... they are from the Age of Legends

    • @samdushukyan9595
      @samdushukyan9595 Год назад +3

      @@Alejojojo6 yes, they are in that age, but their character arc doesn't come in till later.
      There is no need to over complicate a story that's already complex.

    • @olorin3815
      @olorin3815 Год назад +2

      cuz the story isnt about them he just mentioned few most impactful ones like the one that created the trollocs, one that opened the bore, their leader in ishamael and demandred was like main general or something i think, well i guess you could skip demandred but his reason for joining was related to lews therin so maybe thats why he was mentioned

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +1

      @@samdushukyan9595 Demandred arc doesnt come till later as well. Moghedien arc is before that of Demandred. Yet she isnt mentioned. So I dont think that's the issue. I agree if they dont mention Bel'al or Asmodean but Moghedien, Graendal and Semigarde are important more so than Aginor. Should be at least mentioned, telling the audience that the Forsaken are 13, not 3. Just mentioning them doesnt complicate anything.

  • @davidsianez3372
    @davidsianez3372 Год назад +6

    For the love of the gods please, please, PLEASE cover ALL of Tarmon Gai'don!
    Y'all are amazing!

  • @jlokyo180
    @jlokyo180 11 месяцев назад +3

    Lews Therin's plan may have been audacious and lacked proper planning but at least he tried. The female servants sat back and went 'welp, this is too hard, we'll just sit here and do nothing and hope we don't all get murdered' which is not only a travesty of everything the servants stood for but especially galling when we know from the books that it was Lanfear (one of the most esteemed and powerful servants) who first bore into the prison at Shayol Ghul, releasing the 'strange energy source' that ended up being the Dark One.

  • @manssoderlind6326
    @manssoderlind6326 Год назад +8

    AHHHHHH I never thought i would be happier seeing the wheel of time on your channel! love your content!

  • @Imber_Pluma
    @Imber_Pluma Год назад +9

    love this book series! looking forward to your depiction of so many of the battles that take place.

  • @ronjohnson6916
    @ronjohnson6916 Год назад +5

    Enjoyed this summary of something I found kind of convoluted in the books.

  • @martinconway8174
    @martinconway8174 Год назад +10

    To quote the Blind Guardian:
    “WHEEEEEEEL OF TIME!”

    • @rotciv1492
      @rotciv1492 Год назад +3

      "SAVE MY SOOOUL, FIIIND A WAAAAY!!"

  • @mattmininberg6582
    @mattmininberg6582 Год назад +12

    Great to see you guys dipping your toes into this amazing series! Keep up the great work!

  • @lewstherintelamon1726
    @lewstherintelamon1726 Год назад +4

    Yours is very simply put an awesome channel!

  • @andersnrbkmadsen6706
    @andersnrbkmadsen6706 Год назад +2

    I really enjoy your content, but.. "created by the creator at the time of creation" really? xD

  • @adrianbrunner8
    @adrianbrunner8 Год назад +6

    Best book serie I read so far, I'm glad that you cover it :D

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 Год назад +3

    I bought the last book when it came out, but I have never read it because I don't want to have it end. Ironic considering the philosophy there.

  • @qx0ni
    @qx0ni Год назад +4

    Yes! Wheel of time!

  • @salmansayem9204
    @salmansayem9204 Год назад +4

    Continue this series and take as many videos as you like but make it comprehensive so that no other video would be needed to understand or recap the wheel of time. And also start the second era of Mistborn and as soon as the 5th book releases of stormlight archive star that series too. As stormlight archive would be devided into two parts i think an ending would be given in the 5th book so the videos would be good.

  • @andrewtovey7633
    @andrewtovey7633 Год назад +3

    You should consider doing some on the Stormlight Archive and the broader Cosmere. There’s a WoT connection via Sanderson, plus you know it’s only a matter of time before it gets picked up for live action!

  • @jerichohill487
    @jerichohill487 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm not sure that you actually read the books. Cause five minutes in, and I'm already noticing mistakes.
    Mierin Eronaile was NOT lews there's mistress. She was his lover, but he left her for Elanya Sunhair.
    The books state this straight out.
    You shouldn't get your info from reddit and Wikipedia

  • @davidacosta5532
    @davidacosta5532 Год назад +5

    Thank you for covering The Wheel of Time!

  • @im_a_bigdog7772
    @im_a_bigdog7772 Год назад +1

    Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
    Breaking of the world.

  • @Luciana_McC_99
    @Luciana_McC_99 Год назад +1

    I I'm only at the end of book 4. What I don't get is the women opposed his plain but in the show they always blame men for what happened. It seems like it's their fault for not helping like he wanted. Butb4 I'm only at the end of book 4 and I'm not even going to watch season 2. From everything In the book the 2 rivers was a very far out location that has been Isolated for over 2 thousand years, it is very rare that someone moves there or moves away. So everyone there has the same kinda features and same basic look. This is what makes Rand stick out from everyone else in 2 rivers. So everyone attributes this to his mother being from somewhere else. So each location the people have a distinct look , so your able to guess where someone is from. In the show 2 rivers and every where else looks like any modern American city or international airport . This just ruins it for me. But this is just my humble opinion I'm sure most people would not agree with me.

  • @niki8280
    @niki8280 Год назад +17

    I've been waiting for your coverage of this amazingly culturally diverse, intricate world. I hope you don't compromise on the details that made this world unique among all high fantasy writings.

    • @adamnesico
      @adamnesico Год назад +1

      Yes, sadly that geographically has no sense.

    • @niki8280
      @niki8280 Год назад +2

      @@adamnesico yes. the regions' topograhy were artificially altered by the breaking of the world. But yes, the climates in each region make little sense

  • @NathanDunlap-j9w
    @NathanDunlap-j9w 7 месяцев назад +1

    And channel energy through out the whole 🌎. Even from God his self. s eve n spokes🎉🎉17.5

  • @dhruveshpatel1109
    @dhruveshpatel1109 Год назад +1

    Even this lore documentary is better than Amazon's fake WoT!!

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 Год назад +4

    And here i am, still reeling with 'IF'only those women agreed, what could have happened? (Well the series would end early, so kinda understand why they refused)

  • @mutabazimichaeljean
    @mutabazimichaeljean 11 месяцев назад +1

    oooh gush; Thanks a lot , i might have spoiled myself since i only watch the serie on amazon prime but now eveything makes so much more sense . i will try to get the books since they seem to be super fascinating .

  • @shehansenanayaka3046
    @shehansenanayaka3046 Год назад +3

    Brilliant video. Another brilliant series just started. Looking forward to more brilliant videos. Your huge fan from Sri Lanka. We always appreciate your hard work to make these videos.

  • @matthewlogsdon9056
    @matthewlogsdon9056 Год назад +1

    Well, at least someone is making some quality content of the books. Please no ball gags if you do a video on the Seanchan.

  • @kylerayner3102
    @kylerayner3102 Год назад +2

    THANK YOU SOOO VERY MUCH for this video!!! 😍🤩❤️👍🏻
    As a non book reader this helps A LOT!!! 🥰❤️
    I love this series and am seriously considering reading the books after watching this video.

  • @ICU1337
    @ICU1337 Год назад +2

    I'm purely a show watcher but while watching the show it seems like "how are they supposed to be able to defeat the enemy...🤨" and after watching this review its more like *"HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DEFEAT THE ENEMEY?!?!?!?!😲"*
    It seems like the current army of the light is playing t-ball while the enemy is the 5 time reigning MLB champs... I just dont see any logical path to victory 😔

  • @condonsutherland1059
    @condonsutherland1059 Год назад +5

    I’ve watched this channel since it’s inception and to see them covering my all time favorite fantasy series is like a dream come true

  • @Iwerdon8
    @Iwerdon8 Год назад +1

    "created by the creator at the time of the creation". I felt 20 years ago I would never bother to read these books...

  • @Diarmuhnd
    @Diarmuhnd Год назад +1

    I am very glad Wizards and Warriors will Do Robert Jordan's magnum opus justice.
    Amazon sure as hell did not.

  • @joshuabukenya
    @joshuabukenya 11 месяцев назад +1

    0:17 when the age that gave birth to it comes AGAIN 🙆‍♀

  • @kylediffusion9879
    @kylediffusion9879 Год назад +2

    So saidin was tainted because the women wouldn't help? Typical😂 they messed up and blamed men for a millenia

    • @ryanvouche254
      @ryanvouche254 Год назад +1

      Lol true!

    • @dovieandisetovyasagain
      @dovieandisetovyasagain Год назад

      No. Don't use your lack of knowledge of the lore to justify your misogyny

    • @jamiecullum5567
      @jamiecullum5567 Год назад

      Essentially yes

    • @georgeeast5502
      @georgeeast5502 Год назад

      @@dovieandisetovyasagain No, he has a better understanding of the lore than you do. The female Aes Sedai had no way of stopping the Dark One but they still refused to help. If LTT had listened to them, they would have all died sitting on their asses. Then they have the gall to say he broke the world rather than save it and that they had to save it when they did nothing but glorified janitorial work.

  • @aldan7812
    @aldan7812 Год назад +2

    This, was awesome. Please force feed it into the writers on the amazon show pronto.

  • @mysterious7563
    @mysterious7563 Год назад +1

    So the female isedai didn't help the male isedai in the first place and later on killed the same male isedai.....damnnn thats cruel.....so generally speaking what the dark side says about female isedai weilding all the power and hating males is correct meanwhile, it was women isedai who betrayed men in the first place 😂

    • @jamiecullum5567
      @jamiecullum5567 Год назад

      Basically yes, they didnt agree with the plan the seal the bore. Then had no choice but to try and kill the men after they had gone insane.

  • @HansWurst1569
    @HansWurst1569 Год назад +2

    Since Baldur's Gate I have been looking forward for some DnD lore it seems that there is an amazing amount of cool lore there too

  • @roberttonner354
    @roberttonner354 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ishamael translates to betrayer of hope, not traitor of hope

  • @thedark1owns
    @thedark1owns 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. Where did you find this information?

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Год назад +1

    I should read these, but the TV show just switched me off so bad.

  • @Linkous12
    @Linkous12 Год назад +2

    Since you're covering one of my favorite fantasy universes, you might as well cover one of the most detailed sci-fi universes too; Battletech!

  • @dominicpeoples256
    @dominicpeoples256 Год назад +3

    So excited for this series love the books huge fan

  • @douglasburns
    @douglasburns Год назад +2

    so,.. in reality it was the women who broke the world, for refusing to help the men create the seal. Sad

    • @christianrapper
      @christianrapper Год назад

      Not really. I actually blame Lanfear who actually drilled into the bore.

    • @douglasburns
      @douglasburns Год назад +1

      sure, she caused the bore. but, if the women had helped the men there would have been a perfect seal 100% blocking shaitan and preventing any taint. which is of course what happens at the end of the books. their cowardice caused the breaking of the world. @@christianrapper

    • @christianrapper
      @christianrapper Год назад +1

      @@douglasburns no, that wouldn’t have happened. Both sides would have been tainted.

    • @dovieandisetovyasagain
      @dovieandisetovyasagain Год назад

      not even remotely true

    • @vineshpatel9516
      @vineshpatel9516 Год назад

      ​@douglasburns If they all followed Lews Therin's Plan, then both Saidin AND saidar would have been tainted. Based on how the story ends, Lews' plan was flawed to begin with. Saidar and saidin would not have been enough.

  • @LoneTiger
    @LoneTiger Год назад +3

    This is a very good synopsis, overall I give it an 8/10. Keep up the good work.

  • @peterminos5604
    @peterminos5604 Год назад +1

    Congratulations i hope you focus on the books and you will love the battles and the strategy

  • @mmccrownus2406
    @mmccrownus2406 7 месяцев назад +1

    Are these pre-histories in some book or...?

  • @austinhorner7703
    @austinhorner7703 Год назад +1

    It is people like you who obviously care about and love the source material that should have been given the reigns of the Amazon show. This is by far better content.

  • @scottbastow9926
    @scottbastow9926 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cant watch purely because of the AI voicw

  • @oskarwilander3890
    @oskarwilander3890 Год назад +2

    I’ve been so excited for WoT to come to WaW

  • @Aurora-fn6bp
    @Aurora-fn6bp 4 месяца назад +1

    Have you read the books???