Persona 5 Royal But Everything Useful Is BANNED!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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We return back to Persona 5 Royal for one last time but if we're going out, we might as well do it with a bang. We ban pretty much everything that is useful and check if it is still possible to beat the game.
During voiceover I unfortunately got a pretty nasty cold (that I still haven't fully recovered from) and while my voice is not 100% throughout the video I hope it's not too bad on everybody's ears :D
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#persona #persona5royal #challengerun
Alternate title: Can you beat Persona 5 Royal by only using 5% of the mechanics
Alternative title: Persona 5 Royal, but I hate myself.
@WhyNotWaitHere Alternate, Alternate title. I have no idea what i am doing in this game.
@@WhyNotWaitHereNot really. This is just mostly playing like a real gamer, items out of battle are totally legit. Most people are just so jaded they find the idea of using their imagination to amp up the drama of the story. Games are supposed to be about grinding, games are supposed to embrace escapism not be burnt though in 30 hours
@@gaberobison680 with all due respect because I do not personally know you. This is a flawed stance. Games are meant to be fun, and that fun is what feeds into the escapism someone experiences. If grinding is fun for you, then you will enjoy that aspect of a game or playstyle. Whereas someone who doesn’t invest as much time into gaming but still enjoys a few hours on the weekend may want an easier approach. Or someone rather enjoys the narrative but finds the mechanics to be overwhelming, and can’t be asked to spike their difficulty.
The notion that in order to be a “real gamer” you have to make gaming less fun for yourself is wrong. I personally enjoy a good challenge but I don’t believe in pushing that onto others
@@gaberobison680brother what is you talking about lmao. "Real gamer" i bet you play CoD and think camping in a corner with a riot shield and shotgun is and say it's skill lol.
The amateur run where the first time player thinks part time jobs are the best way to raise money, avoid grinding, and either forgets or ignores most of the useful mechanics or has no idea those mechanics exists. A part of me wonders if Atlus thought of runs like this would be done by amateurs which is why this game is so easy, even on hard difficulty the further you get. The only part that is inaccurate is doing the palace in one day. You do the palace one day per saferoom.
Knew I’d find you here
I seriously doubt it. If the game doesn't challenge you on harder difficulty, it defeats the purpose of that difficulty. They have found a nice difficulty curve in original P3 and P4 and started adding mechanics to that curve without balancing around them.
@@pmintertek Well...... I can't exactly say either persona 3 or 4 are a good difficulty curve in any way either.
Yes persona 5 royal is easy as sin, but persona 3's most challenging points are minibosses who have excessive mechanics that are just irritating to deal with and not exactly fun (also I played it on the portable version with direct control because not controlling the party members was just irritating). The major bosses were all very easy
Persona 4 has the least creatively interesting bosses of the three games. The last 4 ish maybe 5 felt almost exactly the same to fight and not very difficult to deal with. Just all magic type skills and almighty special attacks with negligible mechanics. This made fighting them feel repetitive
Persona 5 is easy, but the bosses all felt like they had interesting variety (kinda like P3). This may be from baton pass, because I feel like that mechanic alone makes the encounters feel more interactive
The issue with the big three persona games is that they give all the strengths to a main character who gets overpowered fast. Past the first or second dungeon the MC will have several very strong multi element covering personas and buffing skills and then the game is over other than dying to enemies that you don't know the weaknesses of (or in persona 3's case instant kills skills not fucking working on dark and light weak enemies)
@@AdjustedDisparityin p3p you either one shot every normal enemy and tank the bosses for 30min without any concern of losing, or you TPK to a random mob
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast Yea that is 100% true. Did I think that was satisfying, no not really lol
What a nice Makoto solo run!
Bro...
Useless...?
USELESS?!
@@weraz420 "Right now, you're useless to me"
@@Michael-hc2hp"all you do is eat away at my life!"
Well that’s it. Persona 5 challenge runs have peaked.
If skill cards are considered useful enough to not be used that means I've possibly been making my persona runs unintentionally harder
Haha I never use them either other than for the twins
I dont think they make them harder to not use it, but way easier if you do use it
That’s it, there’s no challenge that could beat this, the p5r is officially dry, congratulations
Using only morgana and joker
@@luissaumeth8000 how abt joker and ryuji only (literally no healer until you get a healing persona apart from medicines)
@@Hymn_ even worse joker and ryuji only, no healer personas, only items that recover 20 hp
@@luissaumeth8000 and joker has to constantly heal 24/7 after he got a healer persona
No SP use
The biggest achievement here was managing to finally pronounce Scathach and Cu Chulainn correctly.
Great job btw, I'll be waiting the next challenge run!
The laughter when youre doing the parts with the personas in the royal palace is so fucking infectious lmao
I feel like I'm in the minority where I enjoy the fact Persona 5 is easy. I grinded to level 99 for Maruki and it was a lot of fun.
Persona games are as easy as you want them to be, which is something I really like about them.
@@bireland2012I grinded to level 60 at Rise's dungeon because I thought I was underleveled and because shuffle time is a fun system imo. Turns out I was 30 levels above the Shadow Teddie boss
Honestly, I love the difficulty, it let me experiment and screw up and make janky builds, so when I go play the other SMT/Persona games I know what I'm doing. (Not to mention, I loved the theme of rebelling against society, even if it could've been handled a little better)
This is like....as if all the challenge runs merged into one. How to beat P5R with as minimal effort as possible, with every ruleset on this channel switched to ON.
This reminds me of a similar challenge where a guy did a challenge where Joker did absolutely nothing. All his allies were set to auto and did what they could
1:16:04 Futaba says "Hehehe, I love that reference!" which she only says when Ryuji and Makoto use their Showtime attack. The fight would've been possible regardless by doing the reflect strat, so this is really just a nitpick more than anything else, but it's something that caught my eye.
u right :0
cry?
Blud cheated
Yeah I noticed that too. I’m not really upset about it, but it did break the rules of the challenge
the true P5R challenge, "can you make P5R actually hard?"
With Mara, anything's possible
Random tidbit of advice to cheese sae's boss fight that I discovered in a challenge run of my own, sae's almighty phase is a complete and utter lie nearly all of her attacks are either physical and gun and I only discovered this after a REALLY long fight (i barely did any damage due to my ruleset) and getting critted near the end, obviously something you can't do with almighty, my frustration with getting cheated by a crit was soothed by being able to cheese that phase entirely with ghrim
Tbh this makes perfect sense since Sae believes that cheating is ok
Facts Shiki Ouji owns her.. figured the same in a solo run yesterday
The first time I went against Sae, Haru had a physical reflect wall up on everyone, and when it hit almighty she used a full party physical attack and one shot herself lol
1:40:07 Hearing the laughter build up in his voice while repeatedly saying “Skat-acchhh” and “CZu CHhhulainn” was absolutely hilarious 🤣
Glad you're still doing challenges, I understand persona 5 probably gets the most attention but I genuinely like your challenges for games I haven't played as well!
Just the idea of this one seems wild, nice to see more!
What I find most interesting is that in a run that "bans everything useful" you restrict Tetrakarn and Mamarakarn but you allow personas that Null/Repel physical. While I have never done a challenge run with quite as many rules as you had, anything that could Null/Drain/Repel physical was the first thing I banned for my own challenge runs.
fun fact: in my desperation for persona 3 reloaded I've returned to 5R to continue my grind in the jazz club for the best team you can get
Doing the same thing right now but in Persona 4 Golden!
@@Stag_Z Good luck my guy
A couple of days ago, I was thinking about what a run like this would be like. Glad to finally have an answer.
Awesome video, dude!
Always in the mood for a p5 challenge run
I’m kinda shocked you never went to the jewelry store before but then again I’m the “interact with literally everyone and everything” type of player 😅
I used to play games like that but I realized that most of the time, it's useless but when you get things, you get like the best stuff in the game
In my opinion the mementos requests and the requests for confidants should have been allowed, so you could progress them more. Not grinding in mementos of course but I feel like that would still be in the spirit of the challenge
>finds video while finally playing P5R
>sees ruleset for challenge run
I would rather force myself to play SMT3 Nocturne, blind with no guide. The first side was like "oh he is just turning P5R into your average BS SMT game," and then the other side is when I saw what made this run truly into a challenge and props to you.
Love the concept but I see a flaw right off the bat.... techincally speaking the most useless way to spend your time in persona 5 is using every available day to go into the palace, do nothing and then return to the real world.
Now there needs to be a Confidant-less run added onto this.
@nameynamd9212 still need certain confidants like Maruki to get the Royal ending. But beyond that, I'd love to see a no-confidant run
seigfreid shocking himself like “jus get this over with…”
I love the continuation of the tradition of pronouncing cu chalainn and scathach progressively worse and worse
What do you mean? That was perfect
What do you mean it was spot on
so many rules to keep track of...
ah yes, i was waiting for a challenge run like that
Those rules hurt me personally
I love it, this is going to be VERY interesting
I've been waiting since the community post, really hype!
Nice video! The mic quality was good, but at times I was able to hear you pressing the keys on the keyboard in the background
1:16:06 doesn’t futaba only say that after makoto/ryuji’s showtime? i might be making that up in my head but if so, was an exception made for this boss battle? run is still cool either way!!
Yep, you're right. I don't mind that he uses showtimes, but don't lie about it lmao. He used one again at 1:42:46
Didn’t even notice that, wow 😭😭
@@username15thmy issue is if he is lying about showtimes then there could be other rules he broke without telling us. Makes me think how “authentic” this run actually is.
@@robertmccormack1274 im sure with how long it took he just forgot about the showtime rule
I love your challenge runs, keep it up!
Am I the only one who likes how he says "Time" i chuckle evertime. It's great
Yeah fuck the okumura fight!
cant even imagine how painful this was to do...
Gotta do a Solo Yusuke run to make up for the fact you skipped over him in every run!
On akechis first phase with the ads if u can down both shadows before u kill them u can all out attack and it skips to akechis last phase but idk y it does this
well at least Makoto is fair game
I always love the fight with Sucky, Fucky, and Kinky.
Poof is once again the answer to the miseries her father likes to bring to the party. We love Poof. Poof is best -Poof- girl.
The palace themes are so good they’re distracting 😂
This is maybe the most painful thing I could've ever imagined
I've always had a challenge run idea, beating Persona 5 royal without baton pass. Obviously it'd be incredibly easy compared to something like this and I'd argue not even worthy of a challenge run, I just think it would prove my point that Baton Pass is kinda busted and poorly implemented. In the previous games getting an all out attack wasn't that frequent because you couldn't pass the 1 more to a teammate, so there was more strategy and thinking, and since in P5 the enemies can't baton pass and they don't have dedicated counters to it (you can't baton pass if you are downed or if you have a status effect but with how fast you wipe enemies out it isn't much of a challange), so I feel it was kind of shoved in without much thought. I beat Kamoshida's palace this way and the combat was rock solid this way, since they took P4s combat and just added the mechanic without a counter it means it can be ignored altogether and the result is a much more strategic combat, you should at least give it a try
Assuming you get an Ambush, you get the exact same amount of All-Out Attacks, since each party member will still move before the first enemy turn.
@@furiouscorgi6614 yeah, so it makes ambushing way more desirable since now you are guaranteed to have the initiative, because if you forego the baton pass not getting an ambush means you are most definitely gonna get hit, which means there's a constant drain of your resources, pushing you to make more intelligent decisions in battles
@makiiavely there's already a constant drain on resources, only it's SP and not HP. Otherwise, you can traverse way too much through hiding spots, which guarantee ambushes. And the Grappling Hook upgrade from Yoshizawa rank 5, which gives ambushes from range when not hiding. Even with Shift and Baton Pass, I'm still going to go for ambushes anyway.
“I’ll be sure to pronounce them correctly!””
“Anyway, so Thukulying…” 😭
Persona 5 royal but the challenge run changes every palace run and mementos level
I can’t believe I learned about gun customization from this. Great run! 😅
I didn't know Ryuji could fail the distraction in the Kaneshiro fight.. tried it 7 times and Ann worked 5 times while Ryuji only worked twice
If everything useful was banned, you'd have to pick the option to reset boss battles way back when dying lol, good stuff though
It's not a do-nothing run, more like a doing minimal effort run.
26:47 800 hours on this game and i just found out about this
don`t know if this comment will help you much, since i just discovered your channel, but your audio sounds really nice., because you mentioned it in your outro. But i honestly want to see more of your content. I would really like to see more, but idk if there is anything more to do in P5R so I`m just gonna watch what you will do next.I Think you are on a good route to see much more of myself. I`m hoping your channel will blow up cause you`re really cool.
How about this one you can only talk to maruki and use cards
Would have been funny if he forbade direct commands too
Hey Ragnar, personas are useful.
Amazing stuff sir
P5 chellenges is masterpiece
Address the Showtime Allegations.
Hello! I love your runs they are entertaining. I am thinking of making my own challenge run in the future. I wish to know what video editor you use or if you can recommend a free/watermark free one I can use. I'm exploring my options and I want to make sure I can make good content. Sorry if this is an odd question. Keep up the great work 😎👍
DaVince Resolve is free and what a lot of people use. I use Adobe Premiere which is part of the Adobe CC
Just finished the video, what a great challenge run! I've been doing a similar one with slightly less restrictions, that Okumura fight was insane itemless and never even thought Madarame would be possible without revives. Super excited to see what videos you come out with in the future!
This reminds me of this one youtuber, that play this game blind and just refusing to use the game mechanics (such as the velvet room cuz he hate the twin, refusing to catch persona and let the ai control the characters and only block with joker). When he beat the game, he juat say how much he hate the gameplay but love the story, kinda funny but also frustrating to watch
Hmmmmmm i think fast travel is *pretty useful* :)
Great run, but is there a way you can noise gate the mouseclicking through slides for your script? Once I started noticing the sound a few minutes in, I couldn't NOT hear it the rest of the way.
So for the first archangel boss, I think it is hard coded to target Joker last
the "I hate myself" run
I want to see a challenge in P4 and P5 beating the game without direct command....i never saw this kind of challenge before, it would be an interesting one
Love your videos!
44:44 wait, you cannot or just that you do not want to romance
Futaba?
Edit: nevermind, I saw the rest of the vid, only level 7 until a request, my bad.
Now combine this with the nuzlocke run.
if this run wont turn you into an expert player i dont know if anything will
You used showtimes that weren't scripted at least twice in this run
time stamp?
Game started to feel bad for you by the second palace 😂
are you gonna be doing p3r when it comes out? id love to see challenge runs of that, since its a fresh game :) but i will be fine with anything
just sounds like my first playthrough ngl lol
Welp, this run could have been worse (as in more psinful). Imagine if you ban Fusions too...
back at it
This challenge is invalid. Who allowed you to WALK?! Seem pretty useful to me.
56:36 Femc reference
3:27 pretty much my first playthrough
Can you beat Persona 5 while only using DEEZ NUTZ???
I wonder if it's possible to do this same challenge but adding on no velvet room at all
honestly doing this challenge just seems like hell to me
So you can use makoto then?
Persona 5 but I took all of the fun out of playing it
What is that thing you used to check bosses moves and weaknesses?
Commenting for the algorithm
Is it just me or there was a lot of mouse cliking and keyboard clacking like during the Madarame Palace segment
Now do this on act freely
Hmmmmmmmmmm
I dunno pal. Attacking is oretty useful to me. Shoulda banned that. THEN we'd be talking. >:)
Alternate title: can you beat P5R without playing P5R?
Persona 5 royal but using the controller is banned
Bruh the original persona and shin megami exist lmao
I like this, but one issue: You should’ve banned ALL confidants.
Having any confidant ability makes any challenge TOO easy.
Now the only question is: Can you beat Persona 5 Royal without playing Persona 5 Royal
57:33 why are all of the skills cost 0? Is it a mod or a feature I don't know of?
the last baton pass / 4th baton pass will give a party member to use any skill with no SP or HP cost
@@bayuaji9019 didn't know that, thanks!
Didn't you break the rule "Beat the palace in 1 day" in literally the first palace
No, the game forces you out. You cant fight the boss on infiltration day
Is that how you pronounce their names, or is that a joke?
I don't know if it's a joke but that is not how you pronounce their names. Not sure who told him to say it that way but they lied to him.
So you say you've seen everything, there's no video of a completed nuzlocke of p5. I've seen attempts but no completions.
Then you better check my channel and head back a couple of videos
No fun allowed lol
Why is hard diffitulty harder than merciless? Sorry I'm new here
Merciless difficulty triples the damage of Technical damage, which applies to both the party, and the enemy, IIRC.
In specifically Persona 5 (and Royal), Merciless buffs the damage of Weakness hits, Critical hits, and Technical hits significantly. Imo, it still mostly makes the game harder because bosses don't have weaknesses, are (mostly) status immune, and are crit immune