Honda's 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sports tested on & off-road | MCN Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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The africa twins to me is the best bike for the long haul. Honda reliability and build quality ❤❤❤
I have ALWAYS stated that Africa Twin Adventure Sports with 19 inch front wheel would be perfect as it would make the handling better, the center of gravity lower and make the bike more approachable. It is great to see this change finally arrive!
Yeah but it's too low now - I'll take the old ES 21 front thanks. Not to mention I think it looks silly with a 19 inch front, good to have other options out there for shorter people though.
Africa no more it's then - but updated Varadero
@@MagicAyrtonforever you might be the minority ;-)
Seems like Honda looked at what Suzuki did and they realised that it was a good move
@@MagicAyrtonforever Lol it barely looks any different, far from silly. You wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't told you. The GS also has a 19 front. These bikes are primarily use on road, and the 19 gives better handling and tyre choice.
The most beautiful and most coherent and the most lovely bike,
by the grace of GOD i will own a twin one day and I will keep it in my living room..
lol............
Right balance between professionalism and enthusiasm. That country looks great 🙂
Portugal is underatedly stunning
@@Thisisahandle701 It's not underrated, it's more of a case of it being uderrepresented wither newer generations due to all the crime... Before all the crime and Portugal becoming known for crime, some 40, 50 or even 60 years ago, Portugal had one of the biggest tourist waves from June almost all the way to October, out of all the countries in Europe... Nowadays people avoid it like plague, so it's not that it's underrated, it's just that you don't really have many people talking all that much about how beautiful Portuguese landscape is.
Man, this dude doesn't get old at all. He surely is immortal.
As a very pleased owner of a fully farkled ‘18 Africa Twin DCT I’d love to upgrade. The main “problem” is I’m a very pleased owner of a fully farkled ‘18 Africa Twin DCT . . .
if one starts chasing every bhp or Nm, there wouldn't be much time to ride between farkling the bike and trading it in :) The new version might be intended to entice another target market, but definitely not for the original one where every inch of ground clearance matters
@@kohinoore Right you are, but I’m Turing 72 and both me and my and ambitions are getting a tad shorter. I’ve grown to love the engine and DCT but neither the heft nor the height so, what’s an ol’fella to do?
@@UncleWally3 NT1100 perhaps ?
@@kohinoore Don’t sell NT’s in North America but, yes, that’s what I’d buy + a 300cc dual purpose . . . sigh.
Like your reviews !!
7:00 I ride a low chassis option GSA and have never looked back, really made a difference, I’m 5’10 with a 30” inseam.
Great review Neevsie !!
Excellent review for sure. I wish they would add one more OPTION for the Manuel transmission versions...... Shaft Drive 😮... I can hear some of you now 😅but.... I absolutely love this bike and I love me one of those shaft drives like the V-4 cross tourer had.... I know... Very heavy for some of you hard core rally dudes... But... From my almost 60 years of experience on bikes some here in south East Asia... I am happy with the shaft... It is fine for most fire roads, jeep trails and single track stuff. at 6'4" (194cm) I love the tall AT.... Keep up with your awesome vids and enjoy the rides. 😀🌴🙏
I have a VFR Crosstourer and know exactly what you mean. Year and a half ago I was in the market for AT and eventually decided to buy Crosstourer and never looked back ever since.
Fantastic overview and video footage. Thank you so much! 😊
Excellent review 👍
Thank you, a top review. Clear, no BS, to the point and considered. Absolutely love this style of review. Extremely helpful too. Thank you so much for putting the 'relatively low' 100hp situation into perspective too. I had no comprehension regarding the benefit to reliability of the lower compression ratio - although it completely stands to reason when pointed out! Thanks again and I think there's one of these in my future - DCT and fuss-free suspension for me😄. I'll be trading my 2014 Multistrada GT on the Honda. The Ducati has been WAY LESS than reliable and has deplorable quality for the ludicrous amount I paid for it. Fantastic bike, when it works but, very sadly, I can't rely on it . . .
In the USA, the AT is significant cheaper compared to the EU bikes. It comes fully equipped. Another point is the Honda Dealer network, every town typically has a Honda dealer. I ride right now a Triumph Tiger 1200GT PRO, love them bike. Every tire change is a 2 hour drive! The 150 HP I have not used yet either? In reality I do not need a 5th or 6th gear!
Superb review Neevsey lad 👍👌🏻 bike looks superb, its come of age finally I feel, the finish on the Honda's puts the GS's to shame ( and I'm a GS fella ) ...
I bought a RD03 1988 Africa twin over the modern. it was my dream bike at the time.
Nice video man, there’s some amazing shots in there. 👍🏻
Sounds like they changed everything that I like about the Africa twin
I currently ride a 2004 gsxr1000 100% road riding and I'm considering an adventure style bike, I want comfort, performance on the road and a bit of oomph, the KTM 1290gt is top of the list however this Africa twin looks FAB
You'd be taking a pretty big power hit coming from a GSXR to a Africa Twin. If you just stick to road riding I'd def get a 1290GT.
KTM is not reliable.
You will regret buying the KTM sooo unrealiable. You’ve been warned 😮
What about new suzuki gsxsgt
get an adventure bike such as this Honda or KTM adventure. They are incredible. VS my 05 Blade, I take my KTM 95% of the time, it’s a true weapon.
Weird that it only makes 101bhp when the Transalp makes 91. And there's a big price difference. And the price for these is getting crazy. The £16K is for absolute base spec, which nobody would want.
Great review! For a masterpiece bike.
I had a dream , and it was the Africa twin ❤
Sounds lovely!
I am so relieved to know that the Manual Transmission of the ES version is still on sale.
When Honda unveiled the new Africa Twin last October, they said they would discontinue the manual version for the top model entirely. That was heartbreaking.
But am relieved now.
😂❤
Foooooöóö😍💗
it's even harder to say what the heart will go thru with the total electrical conversion
Best adventure sport
Well done love the video mate. Seriously thinking about a 2024 model soon as I bought the 2016. I absolutely love but will be interested to ride the 24 model.
keep the 2016...
I'm quite surprised that Honda didn't come through with a more substantial update; I was expecting more from the CRF 1100 engine. When they ventured into making a "sport" tourer, I was hoping for features like active cruise control. But what surprised me the most was the price hike, putting it in the same category as the KTM 1290 Adventure Sport, the Tiger 1200, and the BMW R1300.
I like bikes like the AT for touring and this latest version looks and sounds superb…but…..using a chain for final drive rather than a shaft is always going to see me looking at the GS I’m afraid…..just don’t want the muck n faff 😢
As a previous owner of a 2016 bmw GSA I really like the bike. I wanted to get the New 2023 BMW 1300 GSA but I am a little older and wiser. So do I want to spend 30k USD or 18k USD. Its a big different. I am considering the 2024 Africa twin end of the year. Love honda reputation, reliability, customer service, warranty and resale value.
The quick shifter is an add on, notstock, I think :). Nice review, thanks, mine must be arriving soon :)
❤❤❤❤ you are the luckiest man in the world. You test Honda Africa twin 1100 sports
Love the look of the new front wheel. I wonder if the front tyre will now last as long as the rear.
The rims look to have tubed tires, but maybe I'm wrong. I mention it because that can be a limiting factor in terms of road tire availability.
@@MadChalet No wrong, they are tubeless, the spokes are at the edge of the rims.
great review, Thanks!
would have liked 50 more horses in the basement, now it is all minor changes, and no need to upgrade. Still happy with the 2019 version of it.
1100 with 100hp sounds like not enough.
Worth mentioning the tubeless rims, I’d say? Also what about the weight? My old DCT was 242kg and it did feel a touch underpowered I thought. Overall though, nice review as always and with that front wheel I think Honda will seem even more. Except £17.5k…? 🤔
Tubeless rims are waaay important to me.
Another great MCN Review. Would you purchase over a KTM SuperAdventure S?
I opted for the KTM 1290 SAS. Hard to go slow, ha.
@@dpinedoblog I love the SAS too, but I ended up pulling the trigger for the Africa Twin yesterday. Adventure Sports with the DCT! Let's see, we can go wrong with either I think LOL! 👍
@@mm93249 would love to hear your thoughts over time. I love the KTM for big city riding. But not for distance. Considering an ATAS DCT as a second bike for distance.
Finally it's approachable to me, I'm just lacking 10 grand...
Could one now compare this one to Verys 1000 SE?
Looks like fair comparison now...
Love it apart from the out-dated combo of LCD and TFT screen - one screen with do, not two screens both showing the speed that don't update at the same time as the speed changes.
I always use waze or calimoto on the tft, so for me the 2 screens is very usefull. The second screen could use an update to make it look more modern
@@Jubelly The main display needs to be configurable so that when in Apple or Android mode or whatever, user selectable info can be overlaid in the corner such as speed, gear, rpm etc - lots of TFT technology available to do this already out there in the market, Honda just don't want to spend the money updating is all. When they do, I'll probably pull the trigger.
Gear and speed is on the second screen, just not rpm. The system works great as it is. My main TFT I mostly have Waze displayed, but you can easily flip the main screen between Car Play and the inbuilt mode screens with a touch of function switch without even taking your hand off the bars. Everything is at your fingertips on this bike, just got to get used to using it. It’s a good system.
@@GeeBeeMike My Audi has everything in one display and can show nav, speed, RPM, gear, MPG etc all at the same time without needing two displays. It's better and totally possible and available tech to the masses. I get the Honda system, it's just out of date now and could (should?) be better. All in my opinion of course.
@@Otto-AutoPilotyes, but the Audi doesn’t show Waze on the LCD all in one. The Honda TFT LCD combo does through wireless car play.
I concede the LCD element of the Honda could be improved, but the combo of the two is adequate and works just fine. Previously I didn’t have wireless CarPlay set up on my AT, now I do.
The AT is a great bike, and will for sure have one in the future, but the Honda PCX is hands the most sold out motorcycle of Honda 😂
I know it would be a niche market but I’d be interested in a 450cc mini Africa twin. I wouldn’t mind that it’ll be expensive in that category as it would be competing against the new CFmoto 450MT, the little Triumph Scrambler, the KTM390 and Svartpilen 401 etc. If it was well specked it could create its own market to riders like me who already have big bikes for that weekend blast but need a good everyday rider that is easy to commute on, which is light and manageable but yet capable enough to keep us engaged and have a little pride of ownership. A kind of grown up supermoto is what I’ve got in mind.
Transalp man...
I notice your bike was a manual transmission , but when you zoomed in it showed aDCT……
Makes me wanna buy it🎉🎉🎉
Wonderful review sir. I am not interested in off road, do you think the base model with the 21" is qually good at turn like the 19" adventure sports that weight more and is more expencive? I am between the 21" and the 19" 2024 models and don't want to regret spending money on a bike that is not that good in handling but also don't want to spend more money also :)
That front fender will definately be in the way in deep mud. I had a low fender once on an enduro and it kicked my ass. After that 100 mile enduro I sold it and bought a bike with high fenders, front and back.
Any news on a usa release date?
Now I want to buy that helmet, lol
Thank you for this video - very insightful!
I’m planning to buy an Africa Twin but here’s my dilemma if I can get your expert advice with please. My local Honda dealer is offering 4 grands discount on all the 2023 models. Are the new improvements in the 2024 models worth paying more or would you take the 4 grand and buy the 2023 model?
The 2024 models haven’t been released in Australia yet.
Thanks
Why not offer both 19 and 21 inches front?
How many times can you say "wheely" ...... It's a really good video, really good bike. It's really easy to ride. Really good handling.... really well equipped....really really really
Sadly it’s $30 grand in Canada
Thank you
I wonder if they’ve addressed 2 big issues with the 1100:
1. Frame corrosion - I’ve done 11k on mine and there are blisters in more places than I’d like on the frame.
2. Electronics. Honda extended the warranty on the 1100 screen/dash to 10 years because so many were glitchy. It would shut down/CarPlay wouldn’t work/screen would freeze/cruise would stop working. Also the weather seal around the USB is a dreadful design as it kinks the cable immediately after the plug. Very un-Honda. I get through cables every 6 months as they break internally.
Thanks again for your very well-balanced review. Just watched it again, after an extended test ride and the following thoughts have surfaced for me. The 2024 Africa Twin is an incredible improvement on the release of the 2020 model when it was upgraded to the current 1,084cc motor. The torque has increased and is much smoother and more measured in its deployment from zero to high rpm. It really is a pearler of a twin motor with a great traditional 'twin' sound with the upgraded 2024 muffler. I'm a fan and a Honda tragic from way back and can hardly wait to own one. I would very much like to buy the '25 model next year.
HOWEVER, Honda will NOT be getting my money until at least some or all of the following glitches/negatives are resolved:
1) The atrociously long time it takes to boot the TFT screen and THEN it requires a touch on an 'OK' button before giving you access. WTF Honda?! No other manufacturers spoil the ride experience like this so WTF Honda?!
2) The switchgear needs an overhaul - simplify it AND include backlighting
3) An easy way to get the seat height BELOW 800mm. Please don't try to tell me it can't be done Honda. I'm 5'6" (167cm) and I would like to be able to flatfoot. 795mm seat height is a worthy goal Honda.
4) For the top-of-the-line model (mainly road use owners) ditch those ridiculous spoked wheels and give us some tasteful forged cast aluminium wheels. Cleaning spokes is an absolute nightmare. We already have enough cleaning with the chain drive, so, please Honda - some alloys.
5) For two-up touring it most definitely needs some more power. They should either bump the capacity to 1250cc for another 30hp OR, preferably, finally release the supercharged model on which they hold a Japanese patent and as such has been in development since 2019. One would think that simply in the name of competition with the Multistradas, GS1300s, Triumphs et al, Honda would want to increase the power at least somewhat. It is great for low speed stuff but 2-up with luggage on the highway it does need quite a bit more. Please! (from all reports the supercharger design is for low-mid range torque - not meant to be a high-rev Kawasaki H2 competitor).
6) Not mandatory for my purchase but, with DCT, a reverse gear for parking such a heavy baby would be handy. You'd only need 'impulse power' Scotty :-)
7) Does that great sounding rear muffler really have to be the size of a boat anchor?
So there's my list of gripes for a bike I love a lot. My wishlist. How about it Honda - all for '25?
Thank you for a great video. I noticed on 2024 the cornering lights remain off when head lights are off ? Is this correct ? Thanks in advance.. 👍🏻
Good review
My biggest question about this bike, does it produce a lot of engine heat? I live in a hot climate, and my current bike cooks my calfs. I really like this africa twin with dct, but want to know about the engine heat.
Basically there is no point getting a 2023 ATAS over 2024 standard Africa, right??
I thought it was only available in DCT as in Adventure Sports?
Looks good value, if you had all those feature on a GS (which would be extras) you'd be broke.
Every manufacturer has to make their big ADVs accessible to more (shorter) riders, either by just reducing the ground clearance, or by electronics. It just makes business sense. Not everyone is a pro or 6 ft tall.
As a shorty, I'm with you. It's like pulling teeth to try to get a lowered model.
On the other hand getting on any middleweight and being over 6ft is just hillarious
The hornet and the GSX-8S/SV65 are all so TINY, its really strange how those bikes are hillariously the small whilst these ADV's have to be SO tall
@@Surpriseify
Has to do with the adventure bikes longer suspension
Hey! I'm 6'5" with long legs.
Do you know how difficult it is to find something with adequate leg room?
The adventure bikes might be on stilts, but the seat to peg ratio is still not that great unless you want a stupidly large GS with tall seat option.
@@pauln6803 your best bet will be the sport/adventure type bikes tbh
Perhaps with tall seat option or lowered pegs.
Think V-strom, Triumph tiger, KTM adv, transalp, etc etc
Many very capable and fun bikes in that market.
If you want more sporty bikes, perhaps Honda VFR or BMW S1000XR?
Loved that vid! Anyone else think, 12 missed called 🤔 😂???
Looks fab, except that price
Best I start saving
When will it be released in the US? Or will it??
Any word on a US release? We didn’t even get the 2023 model
This or an 890 SMT?
Beautiful machine+ a reliable work horse 🤌❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Hi there I really think your feedback could help me with a difficult decision I’m making. I’m 6 foot 2, 30 years old, and I’m deciding whether to buy a 2020-2023 model or a 2024. The 2020-2023 Africa size was what mainly drew me to; i liked its 21 wheel too because it inspired me to try off-road more and im sure I’ll like it, although I know that I will mostly drive it on tarmac. With the new model Honda threw me off because it’s actually what I think I’ll need out of this bike, maybe I’ll still be able to approach light off-road while maintaining a good handling on the road, but I’m afraid it is now too small for me or that the smaller front wheel will actually affect the use I could do of it off road in the long run. I don’t know that because I don’t have off-road experience.
What model year do you think might suit me the best?
everyone says the 19" one is just as capable off road as the 21"
Does the bike automatically lower (or get softer) at stops with the new suspension?
No intention of buying it at all but cool review.
NT 1100 or AT AS for street?
Love the T shirt!!!
Is the android auto/apple carplay still really finicky?
Sadly, in the UK, wheelies ARE a crime.
perfect bike
Help me out, I tested the Africa Twin 2024 today. I have an NC750x and my idea is to upgrade. I just loved the teste of the AT.
What I noticed is that the engine vibrates more than the NC. Do you think the engine vibrates more than normal? Will It be me the one to find this?
The Africa Twin has a 270 degree 'crossplane' twin cylinder motor. A beloved characteristic of these unique motors is the 'vibe'. They are self balancing and don't require large counter-balancers like a lot of other motors. The "vibrations" you felt are normal and something to be cherished. Aside from a BMW 6-cylinder and some inline fours you wont get a better balanced motorcycle engine, twin cylinder anyway.
It's a big twin cylinder engine, you're almost certain to get more noticeable vibration than a smaller engine.
Is it tall enough at 6'4"
I'm 5'10 on a gd day! I have a 2021 base model. With biking boots on, seat in high position, I can just flat foot both feet!
higher seat if you want mate! easy!
Don’t like the 19 inch front, definitely prefer the 21. I can still rip anywhere anytime with my 21 inch front! Nicer for off-road anyway!
Most importantly, it finally had tubeless tires available!
Tubes are for dirt bikes. Who wants to remove the wheel to fix a little flat on the way to work?
Awesome reviews ! did Honda improve screen bootup time? thk. Y
Another review said they didn't, unchanged
The weight seriously has to go down more
get a translap its far better than this thing.
I have a multistrada 950 today. I love this bike! It can keep up with any bike in the corners. Only tree problems, offroad, 15 hp and fuel capasity. Will this new AT keep up with a multistrada?
What would you choose guys, africa twin or tuger 900 gt pro? 🤔 maybe the new mg stelvio? 😅
I'd go with the Tiger. That triple is way more thrilling than the Honda's boring twin.
Depends on the kind of roads you ride on. Free open motorways then the Tiger makes sense as it has more power up top. If its tight twisty then Africa twin makes sense as you can power out of corners quicker as it has more bottom end torque. If you do both then Africa twin still makes a case as not everyone wants to do 140mph all day long. And the tiger has an annoying vibration that creeps up around the 5k rpm mark. I ride a 850GS here in India and its much more driveable than my friends Tiger 900 (his words not mine) on the sort of roads we have here. ..Cheers.
101bhp 😮 less than my tracer9 i bought for 8900gbp brand new
you won't want to go same places on the tracer, trust me
Am having the 2023 Adventure sport Manual with Quick shifter with a 21 front but really miss DCT as my previous 2 ATs were DCTs. am contemplating on selling it for a 2024 DCT but debating between a standard vs Adventure sport. Obviously wont be doing extreme off roads like Kirian Mirabet but the shorter front suspension of the AS keeps me off.
Come on Honda. Still only 101 HP for a 1200? We got 800 parallel twins making more than that now.
Did you not hear him say it's more than enough for you to ride regularly... Unless you race for a living.
when will this reach the shores of US? :(
Should be in the US by May! Announced 2 days ago (14 February)
In the 80's where Honda use to dominate. Mate, have you seen the 2024 results?
19/18 tyres?
Unfortunately they have made the model's far to expensive.
too expensive, and there is no 19 wheel on the regular just on the andventure...
Nice bike, my dream bike but expensive. 😅
Can U do wheelies with DCT?
Yes! Happened to me, albeit accidentally, when I took out the 2020 version.
I’ve got the 2021 dct and you can absolutely do wheelies!
I really don't get this bike. If I wanted to save money and dont need 150+ hp id just get a transalp, and If I wanted a premium full size GT id there are so many choices with or without shaft drive for around the same price give or take...I'm no speed demon but 100hp on a heavy full sized flagship seems a little bit underwhelming, especially haveing the Transalp with the same performance
A big bike attached to a GINORMOUS exhaust can
Mo power baby! Always need more power
Disappointed with the front wheel change......😞
Now all this bike needs is a shaft drive
I’d instantly buy it if it was
only 1 comment out of 131 so far mentioning the little front wheel. i think you should stop calling it an adventure bike and call it a dirt road tourer.
Creedence. ✌
Wonder if that supercharged Africa Twin will ever become reality? Anyone aware of any new rumors?