Impressed with the concept, design and the execution. Your attention to detail and skill set made for an excellent video that I greatly benefited from. Thanks much for taking the time to share with the rest of us. Cheers!!
Speaking with 30 years of building experience this his hands down the best technique to building your shelf boxes , as far as mounting bracket I can see using this method perhaps other methods as well but by using your method you would save money for sure great job God bless
Great video, Jordan! Those shelves came out beautiful. I love the elegant simplicity and it looks great in your client's space.Some very handy tips regarding the different back bevels. I will certainly keep them in mind! Thanks. - Joe
For your brackets, if you want more strength....instead of just gluing and screwing the protruding arms you can cut them thinner then glue and screw as shown. But now glue a sheet of 1/16 to 1/8 panel on top. That will greatly resist the arms from pulling away at their top connection.
Very clever, VERY sturdy and very cool! But also very labor-intensive. Final installation was easy and quick (a plus for the customer-- you're not there very long). I'm not a pro woodworker, and I have never sold any of my "work" (if you can call my occasional wood-torture doo-dads that), but I do often wonder about customer perception of things. Scenario: when you walk in to install, customer sees you carrying two box-looking shelf thingies and two sticks with some notches and some weird-looking assemblies attached to them. They hear or watch you drilling. You quietly attach the sticks-with-weird-assemblies to the wall. You slide the boxy shelves onto those sticks-and-stuff. You leave and invoice the customer for $750.00 (or whatever-- what do I know? I'm not a pro). Customer wonders, "He was here for 15 minutes taking measurements over a week ago, then he comes in with sticks and boxes for 20 minutes... now he wants $750.00?" I really don't know how all this works!
This can be solved with line item estimates and invoices. 4 hours cut and glue up 2 hours prep and sand 1 hour install Materials - $200 etc. They can never question it if they know what they are buying. Cheers!
Thanks, i was going to make 4 of these using lock miter joints and make them all look like one solid chunk. These look great and you didnt invest a lot on unnecessary hardware as the shilfs only need to suport 10 lbs each that i was going to do with french cleats Mine are to put speakers on, might even do one for my projector. This set you did look good and will work just fine for a few disply items. Provided no one stacks 50 plates on them they will hold just fine. If your going to load them down you'll need metal brackets that are welded using 1018 structural steel.
Nice technique for building custom shelves thicker than 1". I use solid 5/4" myself and rods screwed in the wall at stud locations to hold mine up, but this gives me options for thicker shelving down the road where thick solid boards get crazy expensive. More complicated build of course, but they look great.
@@EverydayBuilds no such thing as too much 😉 at least as a hobby and doing my own house, I like to take my time and do my best. For customers, it depends on the price of the project.
Really nice option! Also love the « how much do they need to hold » quote😂 people don’t seem to understand that you would need a shit ton of books to reach 20 pounds.
Very interesting technique, I learned something new today. My one concern would be the color difference between the veneered plywood and the hardwood front. In your case, you seem to have matched the two colors pretty well. But I'm concerned that over time the colors would age differently. Thanks for sharing this, though, it's an intriguing approach.
Shelves turned out great man. This is the first time I've caught your channel. Cool to find a channel that is similar to my own, I'll definitely have to give this technique a try!
I'm watching this video 2 years too late but I like this idea. Nice work 👍 If I were to ever build this, one modification for me would be to skip the rabbits. Just make 2 different pieces, the inner spacer, and the 1/4" face strips. Glue the plywood and spacer strips, then glue the 1/4" face pieces on. Would use a little less material this way (I'm frugal) and there's less room for error (at least for me anyway)
Interesting technique. I might have made the rabbit shallower to prevent wood movement. Also, you were using a climb cut on your palm router which probably caused your unstable feeling.
Love the concept and design. I plan to try this out on a small shelf for my son's room to keep his Xbox. If it works, I will build 4 large ones for my fireplace built-ins.
Awesome video. Nice build! FYI I do miter fold technique for the outside corner of my cabinet toe kick frames with plywood and they turn out perfect and have never seen an issue with them. But to each their own. Really awesome attention to detail and beautiful end product on your build!
@7:52 Good job testing it but note that there are two types of loading: static and dynamic. A shelf may hold up a stationary load but if you drop the same weight, it could impart a greater force than the shelf can otherwise handle.
@@EverydayBuilds you dont think anyone ever drops weight onto a shelf, in use? id love to hear you explain to your customer that they "used the shelf wrong" lol
@@EverydayBuilds Cats. The answer to dynamic load and shelves is cats. My cats climb on anything they can reach and will jump shelf to shelf. That said, I really like how you went about this build, it's a great look.
@@CB27, same here, I was looking around the shop and not paying attention to his work, I had to back to the begin of the video to catch up on his work to find out I’m looking around the shop again………..😂😅😂………….damn. Back to video again………
Love it! I have found that using birch for supports makes for a solid shelf. While my end results look equally good, your work is wonderful to watch! Happy new year buddy!
I'm glad to have come across this video. It validates an idea I had for floating shelves. I haven't built them yet, but I have done a sketchup design for them. My design call for 1/4 in plywood facing and a 2 x 2 border. The quarter inch ply only extends 3/8 into the border and allows room to put a bevel on the bottom of the boarder to give it the look of a 3/4 shelf.
I made floaters this way at first, the result is nice but its a lot of work. I found that it is much faster and easier to make folded shelves. You also have the added benefit of not needing any solid material and you don't have a material seam top and bottom that needs to be flushed and always shows. When done well it looks like the shelf grew as one piece. Usually I can make a set of 3 or 4 folded floaters in a couple hours. The trick is straight square cuts at 45.5 degrees and the rest is easy.
I really like the front tongue and groove to cover the edge of the plywood. If you flipped the glue up face down you could see the joint and might be able to close the gaps. Also you might not have to deal with the glue drips on the front of the ply. Just a thought. Good work.
Beautiful result. I will have to view again to see how the mounting is separated from the shelf itself. I did have a phone call halfway through so I might have been distracted. Very nicely done and looked great in the install on the tile!
I've always used steel as rails if there's heavy loading, quick and dirty you could use some longer structural screws or threaded rod, as long as there's not much weight. 3/4 isn't gonna hold much with just a couple screws
The sanding in of the finish. I havent seen that before. Is that a sand paper. Or a polishing pad on your orbital? Great shelving btw. Clients could not be happier
Hey brother nice work, and I just bought myself a Joiner. And it would be cool to see some video on tips about method and common practices, as well as any safety tips both general and from experience especially... I really like your floating shelf construction methods, especially the two degree Mitre on the rabbit, quite ingenious
Nice work and excellent craftsmanship. But dang, those look like they take forever. Might I suggest an even quicker way with zero miter fold? Butt joint the edges with exposed plywood on front edges and edge band the edges with matching veneer. Alot less work and will definitely look like a solid piece of wood.
The title says NO MITER FOLDS then proceeds to do a miter fold. Do get me wrong I really like the video and thank you for the time and effort you put into it. It was really well done! I just don’t understand the thumbnail title. Thank you again👍.
One question about your reasoning for the 2 degree bevel on you rabbit. If you cut the joint at a perfect 90 degrees and have perfect contact between both materials, wouldn't that be a stronger glue joint than one with a gap? Not like it would matter much in this case but I don't really see the necessity.
Just in time. Wife wants shelves in a room. Question, if both ends are finished how do you slide the bracket and get glue on the end pieces? Great video
Nice project. Can you provide the name of the clamps you use on the minute 9.46? They look special, can you explain the use for these clamps? Thank you in advance
Nice build and execution, but I will keep building them with just plywood and miter folds. This way has a lot more cuts which means more time. Is more expensive with the hardwood being used. I like the seamless look when using just plywood. As far as bumping the vernier edges it takes a hard hit to make noticable damage and how often is someone taking something on and off a shelf.
Great job and very clean install. I like the build technique. Wondering if you could have shot a screw through inside of cabinet into the end of each shelf for added support? 👍
Wow - what a seriously beautiful execution. But with the cupboards being already painted, I'm wondering why the client did not specify the shelves to match.
The contrasting is really nice. It really helps break up a lot of the white in the room and draws your eye to the gorgeous shelves as soon as you walk in, helping eliminate some of that real sterile feeling of a kitchen with a lot of cabinets. Especially white ones. Just my opinion tho. I think it woulda be a shame to paint those beautiful shelves.
I love the idea and concept of your shelfs. Definitely going to try this for some upcoming shelfs in my study. I didn’t see you connect the shelf to the mounting bracket. How do you accomplish this?
That's great, thank you! There are three options for securing the shelves to the brackets. The first option is to apply some glue to the bracket and slide the shelves on. This is the most permanent option. The second option (and what I did for these) is to put a couple pin nails at the back of the shelf that go into the bracket. Using pin nails will keep it in place, but will allow for removal if necessary. You could use small screws. And the last option is to not secure them at all. I build mine so that they have a pretty good friction fit and would never come off unless someone really pulled on them. But it's totally up to you. Good luck!
I've built many floating shelves, usually on site for new construction, never with this method. I'm impressed with your design and execution. I'm definitely going to try this on my next project. P.s. weight has absolutely never been an issue with any floating shelf I've built so I'm confident your method is plenty strong 😂
@H J lol I've got a floating shelf with 30lbs on it that isn't going anywhere and is constructed similar to this method but miter wrapped instead of nosing piece. Attached to wall with the same method.
@@rogermathews3035 how much of that 30 lbs is on the very front edge . I'm guessing it's exerting less than 4lbs. A person touching the front edge for even just a moments stability will be the same has having 100lbs sitting mid shelf . Build for the unexpected not just the ideal.
For the miter folds I would recommend switching up the type of tape . Some 3M heavy duty packing tape works best . Especially for long miters . Should have some acetone handy when removing to prevent pulling the grain
Please advise: when applying glue to the face of the wood to close minor defects, it changes the appearance when using stains or shellac. How do you manage that?
hi you did a great job and everything is explained nice and clear. I have a question to you, does it exists a way to avoid a miter joint and at same time to hide the front of a plywood? thanks
Great job! Looks beautiful. Thanks for the weight insight, that is one area I always tend to overthink and overengineer. You are absolutely right about how much strength is enough? I just have one niggle, what's with the Rockler crosscut sled? Why didn't you build your own. Just kidding! Nice project and nice design.
It’s definitely a nice job, nicely done, but if I may say my two bits worth of an opinion as an amateur woodworker: isn’t the process a little too elaborated/complicated and requiring quite a lot of equipment, for something granting not exactly a game changer benefit? No mistake, it’s a nice work, but is it so much more effective than other options?
@@EverydayBuilds definitely understandable, and no offence meant; I admire your skills and the overall concept was interesting. Looking forward to seeing the next project
hi nice job mate! Do you choose even an angle lower than 45 degree when you miter the front panel? for a better glueing too? have a look at minutes 4 and 20 seconds of the video. Thanks
I know you didn't use any screws/pins to attach the shelf at the end. I'm curious as to whether the friction fit will loosen over time and cause the shelves to move or slide on those wooden brackets.
Great video and technique, building a set for a client right now. The big question I have is will the oak and the plywood finish the same? when staining with a color... say Dark Oak - does the plywood and oak match?
Thank you for this video. I'm going to use your design to build a long shelf over my bar. Looks like you used white Oak? Are your plywood panels 1/2" thick?
How's that sander/polisher working out for you? I've rubio'd with a few old sanders that were headed to the land of death and it definitely mucked up the machine. It looks like you're using it to both sand and oil with great results though.
Great idea for the hardwood facing, but for my money I’ll use a steel Shepard brackets. $18/lnft and I’ve literally done chin ups off my floating shelves.
awesome video bro! nicely done and worth the wait! Question for you.. why do you NOT recommend painters tape on the miter fold when using plywood? thanks for the awesome video, nice work!
I talk about it in the video description, but the quick version is that I don’t trust a thin plywood veneer corner. I have seen situations with post boxes made this way and the veneer peeling of after a few people brushed up against it. I’m not saying never do it, just be careful where you do it 👍
Definitely a great build and design idea, however, considering all the time and effort put into each and every phase, wouldn't it be much more faster and thereby cheaper to buy thicker hardwood slaps, and a steel frame that can hold more weight? In the end it's all about the thickness of the wood if you want to be able to have them float isn't it?
It all depends on the project for me. If I’m already using plywood to build some cabinets, then I like this technique. Using full thickness slabs is a great way to go, but when you break it down, it’s not actually that much faster. You still have to mill the slab, bore the holes and router out a pocket for the bracket to recess in. I’m honestly not sure what the best way to go is, lol
I like to hold it with a few 23ga pin nails through the top or bottom. I prefer not to use glue, incase something happens to them and they need to be replaced.
How much they can hold also depends on where the center of mass is acting. The shelf, when loaded, is experiencing a torsion that tends to push the front of the shelf down, rotating around the bottom of the shelf at the wall contact point. Torsion multiplies the tensile stresses in the side of the structural member opposite the direction of rotation, which is also opposite the direction of the force causing the torque. Any shelf will hold a higher loading if tha load is distributed towards the wall rather than to the front lip of the shelf. I think this is intuitive for most people involved in any kind of mechanical endeavor for any length of time. Anyway, this is for those out there who like to know the why of things like I do.
Impressed with the concept, design and the execution. Your attention to detail and skill set made for an excellent video that I greatly benefited from. Thanks much for taking the time to share with the rest of us. Cheers!!
Thank you for the very kind comment! And you are very welcome!
You have my attention, respect, and subscription because you show the finished project before the build video
I do it for the people, lol
Speaking with 30 years of building experience this his hands down the best technique to building your shelf boxes , as far as mounting bracket I can see using this method perhaps other methods as well but by using your method you would save money for sure great job God bless
Thanks Robert 🙏
Great video, Jordan! Those shelves came out beautiful. I love the elegant simplicity and it looks great in your client's space.Some very handy tips regarding the different back bevels. I will certainly keep them in mind! Thanks. - Joe
Thanks Joe!
For your brackets, if you want more strength....instead of just gluing and screwing the protruding arms you can cut them thinner then glue and screw as shown. But now glue a sheet of 1/16 to 1/8 panel on top. That will greatly resist the arms from pulling away at their top connection.
Ooo, that is a great idea! Might have to try that one out, thanks 🙏
Very clever, VERY sturdy and very cool! But also very labor-intensive. Final installation was easy and quick (a plus for the customer-- you're not there very long). I'm not a pro woodworker, and I have never sold any of my "work" (if you can call my occasional wood-torture doo-dads that), but I do often wonder about customer perception of things. Scenario: when you walk in to install, customer sees you carrying two box-looking shelf thingies and two sticks with some notches and some weird-looking assemblies attached to them. They hear or watch you drilling. You quietly attach the sticks-with-weird-assemblies to the wall. You slide the boxy shelves onto those sticks-and-stuff. You leave and invoice the customer for $750.00 (or whatever-- what do I know? I'm not a pro). Customer wonders, "He was here for 15 minutes taking measurements over a week ago, then he comes in with sticks and boxes for 20 minutes... now he wants $750.00?" I really don't know how all this works!
Thank you!
All I can say is pick your clients carefully. Good clients understand what they are paying for 👍
@@EverydayBuilds That was just a curiosity thing, I have no plans for selling anything. Thanks for replying!
@@crustycurmudgeon2182 no worries! Thanks for the comment 👊
This can be solved with line item estimates and invoices.
4 hours cut and glue up
2 hours prep and sand
1 hour install
Materials - $200 etc.
They can never question it if they know what they are buying.
Cheers!
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Thank you!
Thanks, i was going to make 4 of these using lock miter joints and make them all look like one solid chunk. These look great and you didnt invest a lot on unnecessary hardware as the shilfs only need to suport 10 lbs each that i was going to do with french cleats
Mine are to put speakers on, might even do one for my projector.
This set you did look good and will work just fine for a few disply items.
Provided no one stacks 50 plates on them they will hold just fine.
If your going to load them down you'll need metal brackets that are welded using 1018 structural steel.
Nice technique for building custom shelves thicker than 1". I use solid 5/4" myself and rods screwed in the wall at stud locations to hold mine up, but this gives me options for thicker shelving down the road where thick solid boards get crazy expensive. More complicated build of course, but they look great.
Thank you!
It so much easier when you have all the right tools and proper work space!
Everything is easier with the right tools 👍
Nice video packed with tips. I never thought such simple build would have so much details to pay attention to. You are a perfectionist 👍
Yes I am, lol. Sometimes too much 😬
@@EverydayBuilds no such thing as too much 😉 at least as a hobby and doing my own house, I like to take my time and do my best. For customers, it depends on the price of the project.
It's very good that you build yours with all the equipment you have.
Thank you 🙏
Really nice option! Also love the « how much do they need to hold » quote😂 people don’t seem to understand that you would need a shit ton of books to reach 20 pounds.
Thanks!
Really nice work, attention to detail is really high! Well done
Thank you 🙏
Very interesting technique, I learned something new today. My one concern would be the color difference between the veneered plywood and the hardwood front. In your case, you seem to have matched the two colors pretty well. But I'm concerned that over time the colors would age differently. Thanks for sharing this, though, it's an intriguing approach.
Thank you! As long as you get a good match from the beginning, I don't think they will change to differently over time.
My first video of your work, brilliant, and you're voice is absolutely soothing. Detailed and articulate on the "why's" to perfection. #Subscribed!
Wow, you are very kind! Thank you 🙏
@@EverydayBuilds 😊😊😊
Gorgeous shelf! This would look great anywhere, but what a statement in the kitchen contracting the tile ❤️
Thank you!
Shelves turned out great man. This is the first time I've caught your channel. Cool to find a channel that is similar to my own, I'll definitely have to give this technique a try!
Thanks man! I’ll have to check your channel out 👊
Excellent presentation. Precise and accurate. Well done.
Thank you 🙏
I'm watching this video 2 years too late but I like this idea. Nice work 👍
If I were to ever build this, one modification for me would be to skip the rabbits. Just make 2 different pieces, the inner spacer, and the 1/4" face strips.
Glue the plywood and spacer strips, then glue the 1/4" face pieces on.
Would use a little less material this way (I'm frugal) and there's less room for error (at least for me anyway)
Thank you! That’s a great way to do it as well 👍
Your peaceful style is really easy to learn from! Thank you!
Thanks Deb! That is always great to hear 😁
Interesting technique. I might have made the rabbit shallower to prevent wood movement. Also, you were using a climb cut on your palm router which probably caused your unstable feeling.
Love the concept and design. I plan to try this out on a small shelf for my son's room to keep his Xbox. If it works, I will build 4 large ones for my fireplace built-ins.
Good luck with your build! 🤙
Awesome video. Nice build! FYI I do miter fold technique for the outside corner of my cabinet toe kick frames with plywood and they turn out perfect and have never seen an issue with them. But to each their own. Really awesome attention to detail and beautiful end product on your build!
Thank you! I have done that for toe kicks as well 👍
I like this idea instead of the miter corners...I'm gonna give it a try! thanks for this and great content!
Awesome! Thank you 🙏
This was great! Really liked the angled cut against the wall. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you liked it!
@7:52 Good job testing it but note that there are two types of loading: static and dynamic. A shelf may hold up a stationary load but if you drop the same weight, it could impart a greater force than the shelf can otherwise handle.
I’m not sure how you use shelves, but I think you’re doing it wrong 🤔
@@EverydayBuilds you dont think anyone ever drops weight onto a shelf, in use?
id love to hear you explain to your customer that they "used the shelf wrong" lol
@@EverydayBuilds Cats. The answer to dynamic load and shelves is cats. My cats climb on anything they can reach and will jump shelf to shelf. That said, I really like how you went about this build, it's a great look.
@@jamisonr lol, no worries man. That is a good point and something I definitely didn’t think of. 😂
Ok, I’m drooling over your table saw. Con you post some info on it? Thanks! Of course you got mad skills to go along with it!
Thanks! It’s a SawStop 36” PCS 1.75hp 👍
U're drooling over the table saw? I'm drooling over the whole workshop 😄
@@CB27, same here, I was looking around the shop and not paying attention to his work, I had to back to the begin of the video to catch up on his work to find out I’m looking around the shop again………..😂😅😂………….damn. Back to video again………
Love it! I have found that using birch for supports makes for a solid shelf. While my end results look equally good, your work is wonderful to watch! Happy new year buddy!
Thank you! Happy New Year to you 👍
A great project well executed. Your attention to detail is great to watch.
Thank you 🙏
i found your technique in cutting a slight bevel at the edge very unique. i will try this in my project.
Glad you liked it 😁👍
I'm glad to have come across this video. It validates an idea I had for floating shelves. I haven't built them yet, but I have done a sketchup design for them. My design call for 1/4 in plywood facing and a 2 x 2 border. The quarter inch ply only extends 3/8 into the border and allows room to put a bevel on the bottom of the boarder to give it the look of a 3/4 shelf.
Sounds like a great idea. Good luck with your build 👍
Great solution to a tricky build. Nicely done.
Thanks 👍
Nice work flow and design. Classy shelves. 👍
Thank you 👊
Definitely an impressive outcome! Though I was also impressed with the various items you used for laying down the shelf on a workspace 👍🏽
Moving blankets and drawer liners are the best!
Atenção para os detalhes é impressionante!! Parabéns pelo belo trabalho
I build a lot of floating shelves. Excited to try this way. The joints look a lot cleaner.
I made floaters this way at first, the result is nice but its a lot of work. I found that it is much faster and easier to make folded shelves. You also have the added benefit of not needing any solid material and you don't have a material seam top and bottom that needs to be flushed and always shows. When done well it looks like the shelf grew as one piece. Usually I can make a set of 3 or 4 folded floaters in a couple hours. The trick is straight square cuts at 45.5 degrees and the rest is easy.
I really like the front tongue and groove to cover the edge of the plywood. If you flipped the glue up face down you could see the joint and might be able to close the gaps. Also you might not have to deal with the glue drips on the front of the ply. Just a thought. Good work.
Thanks!
Beautiful result. I will have to view again to see how the mounting is separated from the shelf itself. I did have a phone call halfway through so I might have been distracted. Very nicely done and looked great in the install on the tile!
Thank you!
Hi , I discover your channel recently and appreciate. Thanks to share your knowledge and tricks about woodworking .
Awesome, thank you!
Great level of precision.
Thanks!
Your work is pristine. Very impressive!
Thank you!!!
I've always used steel as rails if there's heavy loading, quick and dirty you could use some longer structural screws or threaded rod, as long as there's not much weight. 3/4 isn't gonna hold much with just a couple screws
No miter folds?
Nice work. Well done video as well. Thanks for taking the time to do it.
No problem 🤙 thank you!
@@EverydayBuilds And lightening fast responses to comments!! haha
@@DerekHauser-kw1bc ⚡️⚡️⚡️ of course!
The sanding in of the finish. I havent seen that before. Is that a sand paper. Or a polishing pad on your orbital?
Great shelving btw. Clients could not be happier
For buffing in the finish, I use these pads amzn.to/40ML1wv
I cut them into 5" circles. Thank you!
Hey brother nice work, and I just bought myself a Joiner. And it would be cool to see some video on tips about method and common practices, as well as any safety tips both general and from experience especially... I really like your floating shelf construction methods, especially the two degree Mitre on the rabbit, quite ingenious
Thanks man! I’ll definitely keep that in mind 👍
Nice work and excellent craftsmanship. But dang, those look like they take forever. Might I suggest an even quicker way with zero miter fold? Butt joint the edges with exposed plywood on front edges and edge band the edges with matching veneer. Alot less work and will definitely look like a solid piece of wood.
Thank you! And thank you for the suggestion, I may have to give that a try 😁👍
The title says NO MITER FOLDS then proceeds to do a miter fold. Do get me wrong I really like the video and thank you for the time and effort you put into it. It was really well done! I just don’t understand the thumbnail title. Thank you again👍.
Lol, it used to have the word ‘plywood’ in it. But I took it out not realizing I miter folded the face trim 😂
@@EverydayBuilds 👍😀
I made similar shelves for my kitchen! The strength through this method is as good or better than the alternative.
Awesome!
really nice work jordan!
Thanks AJ!
One question about your reasoning for the 2 degree bevel on you rabbit. If you cut the joint at a perfect 90 degrees and have perfect contact between both materials, wouldn't that be a stronger glue joint than one with a gap? Not like it would matter much in this case but I don't really see the necessity.
It’s such a small bevel that I don’t think it weakens the bond by any means. It’s probably not totally necessary, but it worked great for me 👍
@@EverydayBuilds Either do I. Don't see any benefit of doing it though.
Just in time. Wife wants shelves in a room. Question, if both ends are finished how do you slide the bracket and get glue on the end pieces? Great video
In that case I would apply the glue to the facing piece grooves and then slide it in. Hope that helps 😁
Nice project.
Can you provide the name of the clamps you use on the minute 9.46? They look special, can you explain the use for these clamps? Thank you in advance
They are called Bandy Clamps. You can get them here amzn.to/3GlRhmW
@@EverydayBuilds thanks buddy.
@@josecenteno1454 you’re welcome 👍
Nice build and execution, but I will keep building them with just plywood and miter folds. This way has a lot more cuts which means more time. Is more expensive with the hardwood being used. I like the seamless look when using just plywood. As far as bumping the vernier edges it takes a hard hit to make noticable damage and how often is someone taking something on and off a shelf.
Thank you! There’s no right or wrong way, just another way 🤙
Great job and very clean install. I like the build technique. Wondering if you could have shot a screw through inside of cabinet into the end of each shelf for added support? 👍
That is definitely an option if you want the shelves to be extra strong 👍
Wow - what a seriously beautiful execution. But with the cupboards being already painted, I'm wondering why the client did not specify the shelves to match.
Thank you! That was just their preference 👍
The contrasting is really nice. It really helps break up a lot of the white in the room and draws your eye to the gorgeous shelves as soon as you walk in, helping eliminate some of that real sterile feeling of a kitchen with a lot of cabinets. Especially white ones. Just my opinion tho. I think it woulda be a shame to paint those beautiful shelves.
@@APinTheAK very well said 🙌
I love the idea and concept of your shelfs. Definitely going to try this for some upcoming shelfs in my study. I didn’t see you connect the shelf to the mounting bracket. How do you accomplish this?
That's great, thank you! There are three options for securing the shelves to the brackets. The first option is to apply some glue to the bracket and slide the shelves on. This is the most permanent option. The second option (and what I did for these) is to put a couple pin nails at the back of the shelf that go into the bracket. Using pin nails will keep it in place, but will allow for removal if necessary. You could use small screws. And the last option is to not secure them at all. I build mine so that they have a pretty good friction fit and would never come off unless someone really pulled on them. But it's totally up to you. Good luck!
I use the Bosch Hex-9 bits for tile, seem really good.
I’ll have to try them out 🤙
Amazing build
Thank you!
I've built many floating shelves, usually on site for new construction, never with this method. I'm impressed with your design and execution. I'm definitely going to try this on my next project.
P.s. weight has absolutely never been an issue with any floating shelf I've built so I'm confident your method is plenty strong 😂
Great! Thanks!
until someone applies more than 5 lbs of weight and the shelf is hanging
@H J lol I've got a floating shelf with 30lbs on it that isn't going anywhere and is constructed similar to this method but miter wrapped instead of nosing piece. Attached to wall with the same method.
@@rogermathews3035 how much of that 30 lbs is on the very front edge . I'm guessing it's exerting less than 4lbs. A person touching the front edge for even just a moments stability will be the same has having 100lbs sitting mid shelf . Build for the unexpected not just the ideal.
@@hj8607 tell us you didn’t watch the video without actually telling us……
Nice shelves! Do you fix them to brackets to prevent pulling out?
Yes, I put a couple pin nails along the back 👍
Dude!!! Your shop 🤯🤯
Haha, thanks! I love it!
Great video! Can you please do a video on your finishing technique with the wet pad?
Absolutely! It is already on the list 👍
Did you order those white pads and then cut them for your sander size? The Velcro just held it?
@@Wavecruzer79 yep, just cut them into 5” circles and the Velcro holds it good enough 👍
For the miter folds I would recommend switching up the type of tape . Some 3M heavy duty packing tape works best . Especially for long miters . Should have some acetone handy when removing to prevent pulling the grain
Thanks for the tip! 🤙
Heard “squish” when you folded those 45s together 🤣😂🤣
I had to 😂😂😂
It’s kinda therapeutic watching your video.. 🥰
Good to hear 🤗
Looks Great! Where the wall brackets secured to the shelf with glue or anything or just pressure fit?
These ones were secured with 23 ga pin nails along the back 👍
Please advise: when applying glue to the face of the wood to close minor defects, it changes the appearance when using stains or shellac.
How do you manage that?
When using the method I showed here, I don’t not see any change in appearance 👍
You are a true craftsman!!!!
Thank you! Much appreciated 😁
Like your new method using the router table better. Seems like they go together better.
Much better 🙌
hi you did a great job and everything is explained nice and clear. I have a question to you, does it exists a way to avoid a miter joint and at same time to hide the front of a plywood? thanks
Thank you! If you have exposed ends, I don’t see a way of doing it without a miter.
all of this impressive work only to hope that the site you are installing to is square... takes balls!
Luckily it was pretty square, but it could have trimmed them if it wasn’t 👍
@@EverydayBuilds haha very true! Enjoyed your video very much!
@@shanejohnson4546 thanks!
clean, effective and looks great .. love it .. well done!
Thank you 🙏
Great job! Looks beautiful. Thanks for the weight insight, that is one area I always tend to overthink and overengineer. You are absolutely right about how much strength is enough? I just have one niggle, what's with the Rockler crosscut sled? Why didn't you build your own. Just kidding! Nice project and nice design.
Haha, it’s something I bought early on and it has definitely served its purpose. But it is on my list to build a better one 👍
This looks hard!!!
It’s not too bad, lol 👍
It’s definitely a nice job, nicely done, but if I may say my two bits worth of an opinion as an amateur woodworker: isn’t the process a little too elaborated/complicated and requiring quite a lot of equipment, for something granting not exactly a game changer benefit? No mistake, it’s a nice work, but is it so much more effective than other options?
It’s a fair observation. My goal was to find the best way to make shelves without miter folding plywood. The extra effort is worth it for me 👍
@@EverydayBuilds definitely understandable, and no offence meant; I admire your skills and the overall concept was interesting. Looking forward to seeing the next project
@@hardstylelife5749 thanks, none takin 😁👍
hi nice job mate! Do you choose even an angle lower than 45 degree when you miter the front panel? for a better glueing too? have a look at minutes 4 and 20 seconds of the video. Thanks
I did not. In this case I wanted a perfect 45.
This is a great project with some awesome results.
If i may ask, why don't you recommend miter joints with tape when joining plywood?
Thank you! It’s not that I don’t like doing miter joints with tape. What I don’t like is a thin plywood veneer corner. Very easy to damage.
Nice build, though missed opportunity to employ a (glued-on) cleat at each end where shelves meet cabinet, for added support?
That is definitely an option 👍
great intel. love the 2 deg bevel. any info on your dro for the dewalt planer, thanks mucho brother!
Thank you 🙏 It’s a Dixey DRO from Rockler. Works great! 👍
Beautiful shelves! Can I ask what type of buffing pad did you use?
Thank you! It’s a white scotch brite pad that I cut into a 5” circle 👍
Here's what I use amzn.to/3Ucr8wp
I know you didn't use any screws/pins to attach the shelf at the end. I'm curious as to whether the friction fit will loosen over time and cause the shelves to move or slide on those wooden brackets.
I did actually use 23 ga pin nails to hold the shelves in place 👍
I like the 10° and 2° bevel idea 👌
Thank you 🙏
nice job. can you provide a link for work apron.
Thanks! Here the link kmtools.com/products/the-katz-moses-20-oz-waxed-canvas-woodworking-tool-apron?_pos=1&_sid=21f73fe3e&_ss=r
Thanks
You’re welcome
very impressed dude..nice job!!!
Thank you 🙏
Great video and technique, building a set for a client right now. The big question I have is will the oak and the plywood finish the same? when staining with a color... say Dark Oak - does the plywood and oak match?
Mine matched perfect, but it always depends on the wood 👍
Awesome work!
Thank you!
great work and video. thx. what type of mat are you using (I guess to prevent slipping?) thx
Thank you! It’s just drawer liner that you can get at any home improvement store 👍
Or here's a link to it on Amazon: amzn.to/3zvDiac
@@EverydayBuilds great. many thanks for your prompt reply and the information! will try one of these
Thank you for this video. I'm going to use your design to build a long shelf over my bar. Looks like you used white Oak? Are your plywood panels 1/2" thick?
Cool! Yes, 1/2” white oak plywood 👍 You can use 3/4” as well, you just have to adjust the rabbets.
What type of and what size plywood did you use? Excellent video! Easy to follow great detail!
White oak. Thank you!
@@EverydayBuilds Thank You! Love the channel
Nice work/ video, personally wouldn’t have fingers or hand that close to the blade (3:43 or so) . I like the 2 degree trick
Yeah, probably not the best idea. I will be using feather boards in the future 👍
How's that sander/polisher working out for you? I've rubio'd with a few old sanders that were headed to the land of death and it definitely mucked up the machine. It looks like you're using it to both sand and oil with great results though.
It’s worked great for me! Definitely better than buffing by hand, lol
send those sanders to the promised land! hahah
Nice work, and nice shop!
Thank you 🙏
Great idea for the hardwood facing, but for my money I’ll use a steel Shepard brackets. $18/lnft and I’ve literally done chin ups off my floating shelves.
Shepard brackets are great 🙌
awesome video bro! nicely done and worth the wait!
Question for you.. why do you NOT recommend painters tape on the miter fold when using plywood? thanks for the awesome video, nice work!
I talk about it in the video description, but the quick version is that I don’t trust a thin plywood veneer corner. I have seen situations with post boxes made this way and the veneer peeling of after a few people brushed up against it. I’m not saying never do it, just be careful where you do it 👍
@@EverydayBuilds makes total sense! Thanks for sharing!!
Definitely a great build and design idea, however, considering all the time and effort put into each and every phase, wouldn't it be much more faster and thereby cheaper to buy thicker hardwood slaps, and a steel frame that can hold more weight?
In the end it's all about the thickness of the wood if you want to be able to have them float isn't it?
It all depends on the project for me. If I’m already using plywood to build some cabinets, then I like this technique. Using full thickness slabs is a great way to go, but when you break it down, it’s not actually that much faster. You still have to mill the slab, bore the holes and router out a pocket for the bracket to recess in. I’m honestly not sure what the best way to go is, lol
Great job solid wood working
Thank you 🙏
Do you rely on friction for the shelf to hold on to the mounting bracket, or do you glue it or possibly a small screw in the bottom?
I like to hold it with a few 23ga pin nails through the top or bottom. I prefer not to use glue, incase something happens to them and they need to be replaced.
How much they can hold also depends on where the center of mass is acting. The shelf, when loaded, is experiencing a torsion that tends to push the front of the shelf down, rotating around the bottom of the shelf at the wall contact point. Torsion multiplies the tensile stresses in the side of the structural member opposite the direction of rotation, which is also opposite the direction of the force causing the torque. Any shelf will hold a higher loading if tha load is distributed towards the wall rather than to the front lip of the shelf. I think this is intuitive for most people involved in any kind of mechanical endeavor for any length of time.
Anyway, this is for those out there who like to know the why of things like I do.
I'll take your word for it, lol