Most of the blame belongs to the teams. 1. An inability to recognize QB talent at the college level and /or 2. The plug and play mentality rarely works for rookie QBs.
@@Vinh1949 maybe not be on the level of Purdy, but i think that Devin Leary from UK and Carter Bradley from South Alabama have a chance to be good prospects from day 3 if they land in good situations. might at least be able to carve out spots as good backups in time.
@@Vinh1949nobody wanna say his name bc he was highly touted recruit but I think Spencer Rattler has a chance to revive his career with a good landing spot, he reminds me of a more polarizing Tua where when he’s hot he’s really on
Everyone wants to blame the teams but it wasn't like the Jets were the ONLY team that liked Zach Wilson or the Patriots were the ONLY team that thought Mac Jones could be a quality starter. It's such an inexact science that I actually can't respect the intelligence of anyone who just blames it on 'bad scouting'.
Most of the team blame should be about roster construction, scheme fit and coaching. The Bears were not built to support a rookie QB until it was way too late for Fields. Also, because of social media, the fifth year option and rules geared toward QB stats, the window for QB growth from rookie year has shrunk. Alot of pretty good if not great QBs of the past took a lot more time to develop.
I completely blame Bell Belichick since he was the GM and HC all throughout Mac Jones career, he never got Mac Jones any real WR’s or O-line to work with, so i completely blame Bill for Mac Jones development
Bill got away with draft steals at the wide receiver position for 20 years. He thought what worked with Brady would work with Mac Jones. He failed to realize that scrub slot receivers like Wes Welker and Julian Edelman only worked cuz Tom frickin Brady was his Quarterback. Plus Alabama quarterbacks are soft, game managing, system QBs. They only work if they’re surrounded by talent. They cannot be called to carry a team to a championship run.
Looking back at how all that worked for basically 2 decades would make an interesting video. It seems backwards but Mac Jones entered dysfunction, the system already had momentum when Brady clicked in.
@@JamesB-mi9uuYeah but with this class history will show the teams let them down .. every QB in this draft got a bad deal with the teams especially zach Wilson
Trevor Lawrence is a quality starter and a franchise level quarterback even if he’s failed to live up to the hype. No such quarterbacks can be found in the 2007 or 2013/14 draft classes, or 2010 for that matter.
I was going to say, if we're being objective 2013 is worse because even the NFL struggled to find QB's to forcefully boost to the first round. Geno Smith is still starting (for another team) but the lone first rounder was completely overwhelmed and gone in Manuel. It's him and Mike Glennon holding up that class value wise. When you look at the draft with Trevor Lawrence for instance, there's a good chance he will get a second contract with his club despite not looking like the generational player we thought hed be (which is still tremendously better then how many of the 1st overall QB's careers went since realignment). If some of these players were drafted a round (or two) lower like they should've been then we might've felt much differently about the class. Because the type of players we saw taken in the first round, traded up for even, were players the could maybe be molded in the right scenario with but not day 1 starters. In effect, day 2 to early day 3 picks. Instead, teams overdrafted them to sell hype (and tickets) and didn't give them either structure/support, or only brought in competition. More of those players were at best closer to Kyle Trask (brought in as a potential future QB if he developed right in Tampa which has not been the case thus far) or Davis Mills (intriguing prospect with limited games taken by HOU in the 3rd round) then they were to Trevor Lawrence and teams drafted them that high anyways while telling themselves and their season ticket holders that wasn't the case. I really despise the new rookie QB draft format now. I forsee more classes like this in the near future by desperate GM's, overreaching ownership and coaches wanting "their guy." I don't ever want to go back to the Sam Bradford era of QB hasn't done a damn thing, takes a big cap bite out the gate, but I don't like this future by any means either.
@@Gungho73 Exactly what I’ve been saying for years. If you have a top 20 ceiling you’re probably going in the top 10. Elite Quarterbacks are an absolute premium but drafting one simply out of need is how you end up with a bust who has no business being drafted in the first round, let alone top 10. Think Kenny Pickett and Trey Lance. In 2008 the Dolphins and Rams without a long term answer at the position passed on Matt Ryan who fell to the Falcons at 3. Today? He’s a Dolphin. Rookie contracts used to also give you 7 years of control, now with the rookie cap it’s 3 years with a 4th and 5th year option. Now you have to rush them in to make the decision on whether they deserve an extension.
@@chicagodude8888 the thing is with what you’re saying they thought 4-5 different guys had these top 10 traits in this one class that why it is so bad drafting Kenny Pickett in the 20s does not make that worse than missing on players you legitimately were trying to change your franchise with in the top 10
@@JamesB-mi9uu Chase, Waddle, Pitts, surtain jr, Parsons etc all available top 10 talents. All should’ve been drafted ahead of developmental quarterbacks like lance and Wilson who were overdrafted like 90% of quarterbacks in the modern era. The value a franchise quarterback is the greatest asset in pro sports, recklessly drafting one to fill the position has proven not to work with raw and unrefined talents.
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@@AnotherSportsChannel it comes thru that you spend a lot of time and thought on your vids and you don't just drop hot takes to generate clicks. respect.
@@jeromepain8447 This is actually a comment worth talking about Owners are too quick to fire mfs because they cant turn a ceaspool into a sb contender year 1 This leads to coaches giving up on qbs because they arent good from play 1 Development can lead to greatness like look at Josh Allen Bro was ass his first 2-3 years and is now considered one of the NFL's best
Trevor Lawrence is not generational, he proved he's above average. Jones has shown he's got below average talent, Wilson has talent but lacks leadership skills, Fields problem could be related to development but also accuracy.
What’s sad is the Jaguars have the right pieces to seriously compete in the AFC South. They just keep making dumbass moves. After their playoff loss to KC they managed to take several steps backwards. When all they had to do was keep the roster together and improve their receiver position.
Belichick is a 🤡 that got carried by the GOAT for 20 years... He's uh DC that got lucky and could stack his defense and make TB12 work with scrap pieces.
Do you remember super bowl 36 when they went up against the greatest show on turf? probably dont remember a single player on either the pats or the rams back then oh and bye the way in the 2nd super bowl against the rams they didnt score a single touchdown at all because belichick completely switched his defense from man coverage to zone oh and a player you recenty bias clowns might remember is peyton manning who i will give the 15 afc championship game to brady and then the ridiculous comeback in 07 i think but other than that the pats beat the brakes off of peyton manning and to the point where him and other qbs complained about bill pressing wide recievers at the line of scrimmage and they changed the rules because of him and i can keep going but everything im saying is probably going in one ear out the other
@@vaeharm You are forsure a virgin if you complain about punctuation in a youtube comment. mispelled words are one thing but only nerds would read a comment on social media and complain about puncutation go on somewhere
@@trayisraw yeah buddy it gave me a stroke trying to read all that. who writes over a paragraph worth of words without using a single comma or period? learned that shit in elementary school. 😭
What would any of these QBs would look like if they got the Jordan Love treatment? How a QB plays in big collage games is one of the best markers for early NFL success. Love didn't play in any at Nevada, so he needed to sit. While his 2020 classmates (Burrow, Tua, Herts, Herbert) all had big game experience. Apply that to 21. Lawrence and Jones played in big games, and both lead their NFL teams to the playoffs. There are good reasons why talented 1st round QBs don't have collage success. It could be lack of talent around them, bad coaching, difference in systems, or some combination of them all. It's doesn't necessarily mean they are bad players. They just need that Love treatment to have the best chance to succeed in the NFL.
The one thing I noticed is that Jacksonville never gave up on Trevor, but all these other teams gave up on their QBs and never wanted to develop or give them proper pieces to work with.
What do you mean? The Bears and Jets kept adding talent but the QBs never improved, 49ers were in win now mode but Lance only has a high school education, but yeah the Patriots got less and less talented over the years so you’re correct there.
@@-PURPLE-HEADthey had like the worst o lines in the league average running back room DJ Moore they only true reliable receiver they didn't do a good job plus eberflus is average at best
@@-PURPLE-HEADNah in Lance's case the 49ers dropped him That final straw was Brock Both Brock and Lance were young Brock was just blatantly so much better So the 49ers gave up on Lance Mac was given Matt Patricia Thats giving up on him Zach they tried everything so Ill give you credit for
@backwoodsplays4367 They had a couple peices on that line Huff was legitimately good And everything but that damn line However that reminds me of another qb One that did well Oh yeah Brock Purdy Or Joe Sheisty(Burrow) You can adapt to a meh offensive line if you have weapons and can legitimately read the feild and know how to play
Where you land is what matters. I believe Trey Lance will be nice because he’s being sat and is allowed to develop. He’ll be the Cowboys starter in 2025.
Not defending this class but it's a lot easier to bust or at least disappoint for a 1st round draft pick QB these days. Look at the money Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert got on their second contracts. You have to be 100% convinced your guy is a STUD before you dish out that kind of dough.
I knew they were gonna be a bunch of disappointments. I predicted Trevor Lawrence would be average which turned out to be more or less true but not quite. I predicted Trey Lance and Zach Wilson would be busts which turned out to be true and worse than I expected. I actually predicted Mac Jones and Kyle Trask would be the best QBs in this class. As for Mac it seemed like it was going to be true after his rookie season but now we know what happened to him and I was wrong. As for Trask, to be honest I was really biased when I said this because I'm a Gator fan, but I really saw greatness in him at Florida and I felt like his talents could translate to the NFL but even for a backup he never plays and has never even gotten an opportunity. It looks like we'll never get to see the Trask I was hoping for.
And the Trevor Lawrence hype was off the charts. The media certainly doesnt help, they dont know s... either. It astounds me Kiper and McShay still draw a check for gibberish.
Idk if the 2021 class is the worst. The 1992 class was horrific, same with 2007, 2015 and 2013. And with the way things are looking, would wager that the 2022 class is worse the 2021 might be in the top 10 for worst QB class but the absolute worst? Probably not.
@@fate8718 Yeah, the literal last pick of the Draft. But Purdy alone doesn't make up for the failure of Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, Desmond Riddler, Shaq Thompson or even Zappe Bailey. The 2021 class at least has 2 Pro Bowlers, and each QB were in terrible situations (worse than Purdy)
@@wholesomecomment45 He does That Mac Jones "Pro bowl" year is going to be discounted by a linsanity year(Shoutout Jalen Hurts) And T-Law is going down as the 3rd best qb in his division Purdy by himself probably equals that Pro Bowl total by next year and considering he is and has broken numerous nfl records and was a right side of the offensive line doing their damn job from winning a superbowl its unlikely to assume he wont be back He was also an MVP runner up He alone will make up for the rather terrible class outside of him in Especially since Mac was given up for a bag of skittles ruining their quantity argument And to add to injury Bailey Zappe was seen as the better option over Mac Jones
@@fate8718 Trust me, Bailey isn't better than Mac. His negative touchdown to interception ratio is proof enough. Also, Brock is still a 7th round pick, the literal last pick of the draft, with non existent expectations where as the other QBs flat out failed. Just because a classroom of 10 students had that 1 student that passed with an A+ doesn't mean it's better than another class with 10 students that saw 1 pass with a B and another with a C
@@wholesomecomment45 Bailey according to the Patriots Is marginally better than Mac lmao Its why Bailey won the starting job to finish the season The attempt at a discredit to Brock by mentioning that he is pick 262 is insane And lets go down the list Qb1: Purdy clears T-law so bad its not even funny Potential Man: Howell has shown better and more impressive feats than Fields has in a worse situation New England: Baily won the qb battle Injury Bot with potential: Trey is legitimatly bad, Matt never got a chance. Honestly have this one go 50-50 Tho if I looked at the tape I draft Matt 100/10 times That mans a menace (admitedly he could have looked better thanks to the receiver talent at Ole Miss) And lastly Your classroom comparision would look more like this 2 classes that scored really badly Class 1 had a single kid score a C(average grade for an Average qb like T-Law) Class 2 had a kid score an A+ While the rest of the scores were an assortment of Ds and Fs Class 2 wins because the weight of the A+ effects the Bell curve a lot more
Almost every year they tout the next "generational qb", gotta get those clicks. The truth is even with the big program players don't get as much of equal level of compitition in college than when they hit the NFL. Always thought that might be why so many score run ups.
This is kinda common lol. It’s only so shocking because of the rookie scale… the QBs can be cut easier. But if you look at it. Most classes get 2:3 starting QBs tops. It’s just now it’s not that damaging to reach on QBs now. So you see 5 getting picked when they never really had 1sr round tape lol
Yeah I said it elsewhere, but a lot of those QB's taken were closer to Davis Mills and Kyle Trask as "intriguing QB prospects to develop" as day 2 picks then they were anywhere first round quality. They got bumped up because of hype and it being easier to sell season tickets, not reality.
Fields might still come good - Russ won't be the starter for more than a few games I don't think - he's cooked. Can't stand Mac Jones though, he's a nasty player. A fitting video, seeing as the chat this year is that the draft is deep on QB talent. Is JJ McArthy this year's Jones? I also wasn't sure if the talent is backed up because of the NIL changes, that there's a bunch of QBs who have stayed in College longer. As always, your content is brilliant, well put together and thoughtful. Keep up the good work!
Trey basically played one season at an FCS school. Why he was taken so high and why the team traded so much to get him is the mystery. It seemed like he could never grasp Kyle Shanahan’s offense since he struggled with short, quick passes so Kyle just gave up on him when he found someone who could run it better.
Before you write these guys off - do you think any of them have the Baker Mayfield/Geno Smith mojo about them? Both were left for dead to start but not now.
Jones & Fields played for awful teams and are better than they get credit for. Lance & Wilson we’re drafted because of their physical skills and teams failed to consider the fact they don’t know football, this is why true gamers like Purdy get overlooked.
Justin had 2 different offenses in 3 years, and a sh*tload of other roster issues that didn't start clicking until 6 months ago. Mac Jones had to deal with Bill Bellecheck stubbornness. And Trey never had the crutches that Purdy has; didn't play 1 game with CMC, kittle, Ayiuk and Deebo along side him/at the same time. Oh, Lawrence didn't get a new contract yet because the verdict isn't out in him. The jags still don't see him as a franchise qb
@@MistaTofMaine yeah, no. Lance had a decent enough season as a rookie backup. Was a starter, got hurt. Rookie then out performs the absolute lowest of low expectations and rightfully came into 2023 as the starter. Lance never truly got a chance
I mean I agree with most of this but that really is on Tray Lance, he was picked third overall and had a TON of chances to prove he was the guy, he got out competed and lost the job. We've seen some bad QBs look good in the 49ers system so if he cant make it work then it really is on him...
My neighbor works in the Chiefs front office and secretly tape records conversations. It's an open secret that if Mahomes has a down season, Andy Reid is trading Mahomes for Lawrence.
Looking back on this Draft can we agree these dudes really didn't have a chance. Think about it Lawrence arguably got the one of the worst coaches not just in 21 century but all of the NFL history. And now he's getting better but he's not what he was hyped up to be as of now Fields had like no weapons his rookie season then he got DJ Moore and look at that his numbers went up like crazy. The Bears organization is well known for not developing QB or giving them the support to help them and the team. Mac Jones was the best QB in the draft their rookie year. He even got them to the playoffs. Next season they gave him a defensive coach as a offensive coordinator. The whole situation was both bad and a clown show. Then they really didn't even try last season with Belichick just being like screw it before the Patriots just blew everything up. Trey Lance this one is tricky considering he was Injury Prone. If healthy I'm sure he would have played well for the 49ers though all those trades to get to him where bad look for the 49ers not Lance. Again Lance hasn't really played a lot cause of injuries but I'm sure he would have been fine since it's the 49ers an QB can look great or elite in that offense. And Zach Wilson ehhhh😅 I see flashes but I do think he stinks and this is not coming from a place of hate dude has one or two games he looks great but other than that he's meh.
Trey Lance was the 115th-ranked quarterback from his high school class who played only one full season for a 1-AA team. What did the NFL think would happen with Lance in the NFL?
That's not really fair to assume all of these guys failed or will fail. The situation they were selected into were not ideal for rookies, especially on a "leadership" level as part of one of their responsibilities. There special "players" for sure, but some needs time and development to be special. Rare to find a Lamar or Mahomes, even they had a year to learn and settled into their role.
This QB Class Was a Big Disgrace. Mac Jones Was The Worst And Is The Worst Of Everything. Mac Jones Is The Worst Alabama QB, Worst NFL QB And The Worst Draft Pick Ever. He's Just As Bas As Ryan Leaf. Also Bailey Zappe Is Also The Worst Draft Pick Ever Too Just Like Ryan Leaf.
I'm a Raider fan 1st. I don't think the 9ers mishandled Lance at all.. they gave him time and had a good roster and supporting cast. I guess all they did was miss on evaluating his ability. If he couldn't be successful in SF under Shanahan with those weapons I don't think he's capable of being a successful NFL Quarterback
Sorry to be disagreeing but this isn't even the Top 5 worst QB draft class of the last 10 years, as a Jaguars fan Lawrence is clearly the future and answer turned his team from worst to 1st/2nd in his first 3 years with a busted OL and not much support otherwise, yes the other Qbs have clearly went on to be busts but Tlaw is in a different class.
THE 2013 DRAFT CLASS WAS WAYY WAYY WORSE THAN THESE GUYS THEY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO BE HEALTHY OR SET UP FOR SUCCESS THEY SHOULD’VE ALL REDSHIRTED AND THEN START THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR
The entire era from around 2016 to 2018 was just a bad era for the development of high school quarterbacks. Most of the elite five-star quarterbacks from that era, the quarterbacks you would expect to become franchise quarterbacks, were nothing but busts for several years, thus the NFL was forced to rely on middle-tier quarterback prospects from that era. Unfortunately, the middle-tier quarterbacks were not starting quarterback material either. You throw in the fact that the NFL is a quarterback league, and many teams are desperate for a top young quarterback as well as COVID hurt the development and evaluation of quarterbacks in that era as well, you have a recipe for the number of busts that 2021 produced.
2024 is looking like a big suck fest. Caleb W is a head case. Jayden is mediocre. I live in the PAC 12 footprint so know little about Maye. Penix looks real. JJ might be a system QB, Nix is old. Rattler looking flawed. Those are 7 of the QB's. Some GM's gonna get fired over this draft.
I feel like you're living down to this channel's name. You thought of a title, listed things that Did Happen & said Absolutely Nothing Of Value whatever. Same with the Russell Wilson video. Not one word about how or why any of these QBs are a bust. Nothing about *what* Urban Meyer did to hamper T-Law's career, just an assertion _that_ saying his name means he must have. That's at best rumor. Bringing up a topic then saying nothing *about it*_is_ Just Another _nothing_ Channel. Repeating old news like Lance's injury does what? Fills time. Who needs Another Channel doing nothing but repeating what we Already Know? Wtf is the *point* of making videos repeating these things? No analysis. All filler. What is your _goal_ in making these?
lol this is a video of nothing but excuses for the most overhyped qb class ever i can tell the creator bought fully into the hype and cant believe these players just aren’t what they were hyped up to be
@@fate8718 i mean yes overall Brock is better then any of the Qbs in the two drafts but at least T-Law is above average, Justin Fields still has potential, Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Lance will at least all be backups. Most of the 2022 QBs are already out of the league.
@@WiseguysProductions-2000 Baily was considered a better option to Mac Trey is a borderline 3rd string Jets tried shopping Zach, they wouldnt get even a 7th for him Sure T-Law is average, He isnt Purdy And we talk about how much Potential Justin has but he never shows it(And by that same account Sam Howell has the same potential he has just shown more) The NFL's residential Potential Man Its always When with him If with him And never is "Oh when he gets a good wide receiver he will go off" He didnt "Oh when he has time to throw he will slice up defenses" He owns the longest average time per pass attempt in the league "Oh if we give him a few years he will be great" Its been 3
@@fate8718 I'm not saying Justin will pan out definitely but I feel being on the Steelers will give us a real look at what he's got playing with Mike Tomlin. But Lance really never had a healthy shot in SF. Mac Jones led the Patriots to the playoffs even if since then it hasn't panned out. But like who are you even saying is better??? Sam Howell i actually felt was punted too early, Pickett was just awful to watch, Malik Willis was third string last year, Corral plays for a UFL team now. Chris Oldakun plays as the emergency for the Chiefs, Desmond Ridder was awful on a team full of weapons he's already moving on too. And I agree with your stance on the potential game but you invest a top 10 pick into someone you'd think you'd give them a chance and want to build behind them.
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Most of the blame belongs to the teams. 1. An inability to recognize QB talent at the college level and /or 2. The plug and play mentality rarely works for rookie QBs.
Whose the next Brock Purdy
@@Vinh1949 maybe not be on the level of Purdy, but i think that Devin Leary from UK and Carter Bradley from South Alabama have a chance to be good prospects from day 3 if they land in good situations. might at least be able to carve out spots as good backups in time.
@@Vinh1949nobody wanna say his name bc he was highly touted recruit but I think Spencer Rattler has a chance to revive his career with a good landing spot, he reminds me of a more polarizing Tua where when he’s hot he’s really on
Everyone wants to blame the teams but it wasn't like the Jets were the ONLY team that liked Zach Wilson or the Patriots were the ONLY team that thought Mac Jones could be a quality starter. It's such an inexact science that I actually can't respect the intelligence of anyone who just blames it on 'bad scouting'.
Most of the team blame should be about roster construction, scheme fit and coaching. The Bears were not built to support a rookie QB until it was way too late for Fields. Also, because of social media, the fifth year option and rules geared toward QB stats, the window for QB growth from rookie year has shrunk. Alot of pretty good if not great QBs of the past took a lot more time to develop.
I completely blame Bell Belichick since he was the GM and HC all throughout Mac Jones career, he never got Mac Jones any real WR’s or O-line to work with, so i completely blame Bill for Mac Jones development
Bill got away with draft steals at the wide receiver position for 20 years. He thought what worked with Brady would work with Mac Jones. He failed to realize that scrub slot receivers like Wes Welker and Julian Edelman only worked cuz Tom frickin Brady was his Quarterback. Plus Alabama quarterbacks are soft, game managing, system QBs. They only work if they’re surrounded by talent. They cannot be called to carry a team to a championship run.
Looking back at how all that worked for basically 2 decades would make an interesting video. It seems backwards but Mac Jones entered dysfunction, the system already had momentum when Brady clicked in.
This is on the NFL franchises, not the players.
This is why I take it with a grain of salt when media coverage touts a draft class as "generational" for any position
This is NOWHERE near the worst qb class ever.
They mean for the expectations going in, they hyped this class up like it had 4-5 locked in starting caliber qbs
Who is they? Every year ESPN hypes up every class. So once again, this is NOWHERE near the worst qb class ever,@@JamesB-mi9uu
@@JamesB-mi9uuYeah but with this class history will show the teams let them down .. every QB in this draft got a bad deal with the teams especially zach Wilson
@@amaddenmind4597 almost every bust that has been drafted had a bad deal coming into the league that is why they are drafted so highly
@@JamesB-mi9uu Lol I made a comment about espn and it got deleted. "They is ESPN. They hype up every year.
Remember when this was "the most stacked draft class in history"....just like it is this year!
Media is trash
One issue is that we dont allow qb's to develope
Trevor Lawrence is a quality starter and a franchise level quarterback even if he’s failed to live up to the hype. No such quarterbacks can be found in the 2007 or 2013/14 draft classes, or 2010 for that matter.
I was going to say, if we're being objective 2013 is worse because even the NFL struggled to find QB's to forcefully boost to the first round. Geno Smith is still starting (for another team) but the lone first rounder was completely overwhelmed and gone in Manuel. It's him and Mike Glennon holding up that class value wise.
When you look at the draft with Trevor Lawrence for instance, there's a good chance he will get a second contract with his club despite not looking like the generational player we thought hed be (which is still tremendously better then how many of the 1st overall QB's careers went since realignment). If some of these players were drafted a round (or two) lower like they should've been then we might've felt much differently about the class. Because the type of players we saw taken in the first round, traded up for even, were players the could maybe be molded in the right scenario with but not day 1 starters. In effect, day 2 to early day 3 picks. Instead, teams overdrafted them to sell hype (and tickets) and didn't give them either structure/support, or only brought in competition. More of those players were at best closer to Kyle Trask (brought in as a potential future QB if he developed right in Tampa which has not been the case thus far) or Davis Mills (intriguing prospect with limited games taken by HOU in the 3rd round) then they were to Trevor Lawrence and teams drafted them that high anyways while telling themselves and their season ticket holders that wasn't the case.
I really despise the new rookie QB draft format now. I forsee more classes like this in the near future by desperate GM's, overreaching ownership and coaches wanting "their guy." I don't ever want to go back to the Sam Bradford era of QB hasn't done a damn thing, takes a big cap bite out the gate, but I don't like this future by any means either.
@@Gungho73 Exactly what I’ve been saying for years. If you have a top 20 ceiling you’re probably going in the top 10. Elite Quarterbacks are an absolute premium but drafting one simply out of need is how you end up with a bust who has no business being drafted in the first round, let alone top 10. Think Kenny Pickett and Trey Lance. In 2008 the Dolphins and Rams without a long term answer at the position passed on Matt Ryan who fell to the Falcons at 3. Today? He’s a Dolphin.
Rookie contracts used to also give you 7 years of control, now with the rookie cap it’s 3 years with a 4th and 5th year option. Now you have to rush them in to make the decision on whether they deserve an extension.
@@chicagodude8888 the thing is with what you’re saying they thought 4-5 different guys had these top 10 traits in this one class that why it is so bad drafting Kenny Pickett in the 20s does not make that worse than missing on players you legitimately were trying to change your franchise with in the top 10
@@JamesB-mi9uu Chase, Waddle, Pitts, surtain jr, Parsons etc all available top 10 talents. All should’ve been drafted ahead of developmental quarterbacks like lance and Wilson who were overdrafted like 90% of quarterbacks in the modern era.
The value a franchise quarterback is the greatest asset in pro sports, recklessly drafting one to fill the position has proven not to work with raw and unrefined talents.
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@@AnotherSportsChannel it comes thru that you spend a lot of time and thought on your vids and you don't just drop hot takes to generate clicks. respect.
2021-2022 qb draft classes might be one of the worst consecutive qb draft classes in NFL history.
Yeah what?
1 good qb(ironically the last pick of all of either draft)
1 aight qb(T-Law isnt amazing still)
And a billion busts
As teams get more impatient in developing their young qbs more and more promising qbs will be busts
@@jeromepain8447 This is actually a comment worth talking about
Owners are too quick to fire mfs because they cant turn a ceaspool into a sb contender year 1
This leads to coaches giving up on qbs because they arent good from play 1
Development can lead to greatness like look at Josh Allen
Bro was ass his first 2-3 years and is now considered one of the NFL's best
2007 was the worst
Guys acting like 2014-14 doesn’t exist or 2006-07
In defense of Justin Fields the Bears just straight up REFUSED to get him any help and spent more time trying to get a stadium built
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Trevor Lawrence is not generational, he proved he's above average. Jones has shown he's got below average talent, Wilson has talent but lacks leadership skills, Fields problem could be related to development but also accuracy.
? Fields has accuracy problems?
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He hides it well...
I think it was the same with Wilson as far as development
Agree
Wilson doesn't understand the NFL
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🤣🙏 My guy, appreciate it!!
GOAT sports channel. Appreciate the effort you put into these videos
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As a pats fan, I was not concerned when the jets picked Wilson. I knew our defense would eat him alive.
🤣
Expectations are way too high for rookie QBs
I still believe in Lawrence. Jaguars just need to get their shit together!😂
What’s sad is the Jaguars have the right pieces to seriously compete in the AFC South. They just keep making dumbass moves. After their playoff loss to KC they managed to take several steps backwards. When all they had to do was keep the roster together and improve their receiver position.
Nah cj stroud got the division on lock
Lawrence is garbage, dude
Belichick is a 🤡 that got carried by the GOAT for 20 years... He's uh DC that got lucky and could stack his defense and make TB12 work with scrap pieces.
Do you remember super bowl 36 when they went up against the greatest show on turf? probably dont remember a single player on either the pats or the rams back then oh and bye the way in the 2nd super bowl against the rams they didnt score a single touchdown at all because belichick completely switched his defense from man coverage to zone oh and a player you recenty bias clowns might remember is peyton manning who i will give the 15 afc championship game to brady and then the ridiculous comeback in 07 i think but other than that the pats beat the brakes off of peyton manning and to the point where him and other qbs complained about bill pressing wide recievers at the line of scrimmage and they changed the rules because of him and i can keep going but everything im saying is probably going in one ear out the other
@@trayisraw use punctuation buddy
@@vaeharm You are forsure a virgin if you complain about punctuation in a youtube comment. mispelled words are one thing but only nerds would read a comment on social media and complain about puncutation go on somewhere
@@vaeharm Its a youtube comment buddy no one expects it to be perfect grammarly mispelled words are one thing but punctuation?
@@trayisraw yeah buddy it gave me a stroke trying to read all that. who writes over a paragraph worth of words without using a single comma or period? learned that shit in elementary school. 😭
The worst ever? Might wanna recheck 2007 my guy. The best QB from that class was a mid level backup.
Can get even worse. I implore you to look at the 1974 draft
Scouts missed the boat on that class. Just Trevor is still a starter. They need to look at other traits, Purdy.
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What would any of these QBs would look like if they got the Jordan Love treatment? How a QB plays in big collage games is one of the best markers for early NFL success. Love didn't play in any at Nevada, so he needed to sit. While his 2020 classmates (Burrow, Tua, Herts, Herbert) all had big game experience. Apply that to 21. Lawrence and Jones played in big games, and both lead their NFL teams to the playoffs. There are good reasons why talented 1st round QBs don't have collage success. It could be lack of talent around them, bad coaching, difference in systems, or some combination of them all. It's doesn't necessarily mean they are bad players. They just need that Love treatment to have the best chance to succeed in the NFL.
The one thing I noticed is that Jacksonville never gave up on Trevor, but all these other teams gave up on their QBs and never wanted to develop or give them proper pieces to work with.
What do you mean? The Bears and Jets kept adding talent but the QBs never improved, 49ers were in win now mode but Lance only has a high school education, but yeah the Patriots got less and less talented over the years so you’re correct there.
@@-PURPLE-HEADthey had like the worst o lines in the league average running back room DJ Moore they only true reliable receiver they didn't do a good job plus eberflus is average at best
@@-PURPLE-HEADNah in Lance's case the 49ers dropped him
That final straw was Brock
Both Brock and Lance were young
Brock was just blatantly so much better
So the 49ers gave up on Lance
Mac was given Matt Patricia
Thats giving up on him
Zach they tried everything so Ill give you credit for
@@fate8718they never gave Zach an offensive line plus Nathaniel Hackett is a terrible offensive coordinator
@backwoodsplays4367 They had a couple peices on that line
Huff was legitimately good
And everything but that damn line
However that reminds me of another qb
One that did well
Oh yeah Brock Purdy
Or Joe Sheisty(Burrow)
You can adapt to a meh offensive line if you have weapons and can legitimately read the feild and know how to play
Where you land is what matters. I believe Trey Lance will be nice because he’s being sat and is allowed to develop. He’ll be the Cowboys starter in 2025.
As a Mac Jonea fan (and a pats fan,) Im still upset how we let mac down :/
“Sunshine” would be doing a whole better if he wasn’t in Jacksonville…just saying! 😅
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2013 class with EJ Manuel is significantly worse
Not defending this class but it's a lot easier to bust or at least disappoint for a 1st round draft pick QB these days. Look at the money Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert got on their second contracts. You have to be 100% convinced your guy is a STUD before you dish out that kind of dough.
The Niners lucked out so gd much getting Purdy as the last pick of the whole draft...
Keep up the videos man 🎉 these are very entertaining especially the 3-13 redskins
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I knew they were gonna be a bunch of disappointments. I predicted Trevor Lawrence would be average which turned out to be more or less true but not quite. I predicted Trey Lance and Zach Wilson would be busts which turned out to be true and worse than I expected. I actually predicted Mac Jones and Kyle Trask would be the best QBs in this class. As for Mac it seemed like it was going to be true after his rookie season but now we know what happened to him and I was wrong. As for Trask, to be honest I was really biased when I said this because I'm a Gator fan, but I really saw greatness in him at Florida and I felt like his talents could translate to the NFL but even for a backup he never plays and has never even gotten an opportunity. It looks like we'll never get to see the Trask I was hoping for.
The only half decent QB in Lawrence isn't even great he's average not a Superstar
gardner minshew is better
@@nathanreed-li5gh I think Gardner is more exciting to watch little less consistent but still a great spot starter and elite backup
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And the Trevor Lawrence hype was off the charts. The media certainly doesnt help, they dont know s... either. It astounds me Kiper and McShay still draw a check for gibberish.
Idk if the 2021 class is the worst. The 1992 class was horrific, same with 2007, 2015 and 2013. And with the way things are looking, would wager that the 2022 class is worse the 2021 might be in the top 10 for worst QB class but the absolute worst? Probably not.
21 is defo worse than 22 for no other reason than Brock Purdy
@@fate8718 Yeah, the literal last pick of the Draft. But Purdy alone doesn't make up for the failure of Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, Desmond Riddler, Shaq Thompson or even Zappe Bailey. The 2021 class at least has 2 Pro Bowlers, and each QB were in terrible situations (worse than Purdy)
@@wholesomecomment45 He does
That Mac Jones "Pro bowl" year is going to be discounted by a linsanity year(Shoutout Jalen Hurts)
And T-Law is going down as the 3rd best qb in his division
Purdy by himself probably equals that Pro Bowl total by next year and considering he is and has broken numerous nfl records and was a right side of the offensive line doing their damn job from winning a superbowl its unlikely to assume he wont be back
He was also an MVP runner up
He alone will make up for the rather terrible class outside of him in
Especially since Mac was given up for a bag of skittles ruining their quantity argument
And to add to injury
Bailey Zappe was seen as the better option over Mac Jones
@@fate8718 Trust me, Bailey isn't better than Mac. His negative touchdown to interception ratio is proof enough. Also, Brock is still a 7th round pick, the literal last pick of the draft, with non existent expectations where as the other QBs flat out failed. Just because a classroom of 10 students had that 1 student that passed with an A+ doesn't mean it's better than another class with 10 students that saw 1 pass with a B and another with a C
@@wholesomecomment45 Bailey according to the Patriots
Is marginally better than Mac lmao
Its why Bailey won the starting job to finish the season
The attempt at a discredit to Brock by mentioning that he is pick 262 is insane
And lets go down the list
Qb1: Purdy clears T-law so bad its not even funny
Potential Man: Howell has shown better and more impressive feats than Fields has in a worse situation
New England: Baily won the qb battle
Injury Bot with potential: Trey is legitimatly bad, Matt never got a chance. Honestly have this one go 50-50
Tho if I looked at the tape I draft Matt 100/10 times
That mans a menace (admitedly he could have looked better thanks to the receiver talent at Ole Miss)
And lastly
Your classroom comparision would look more like this
2 classes that scored really badly
Class 1 had a single kid score a C(average grade for an Average qb like T-Law)
Class 2 had a kid score an A+
While the rest of the scores were an assortment of Ds and Fs
Class 2 wins because the weight of the A+ effects the Bell curve a lot more
Almost every year they tout the next "generational qb", gotta get those clicks. The truth is even with the big program players don't get as much of equal level of compitition in college than when they hit the NFL. Always thought that might be why so many score run ups.
Gotta sell those season ticket holders a face on the team calendar.
If Lawrence could only hand the ball off 😅
I dont think its the worst class. I think Fields and even Jones still have potential. Lawrence is still kicking too.
This is kinda common lol. It’s only so shocking because of the rookie scale… the QBs can be cut easier. But if you look at it. Most classes get 2:3 starting QBs tops. It’s just now it’s not that damaging to reach on QBs now. So you see 5 getting picked when they never really had 1sr round tape lol
Yeah I said it elsewhere, but a lot of those QB's taken were closer to Davis Mills and Kyle Trask as "intriguing QB prospects to develop" as day 2 picks then they were anywhere first round quality. They got bumped up because of hype and it being easier to sell season tickets, not reality.
There's nothing wrong with this class. The team didn't build around them correctly, and today, players got 3 year to show something
Absolutely
Justin Fields and mac jones were put in horrible situations and they did the best they cokkd
Correct
Fields might still come good - Russ won't be the starter for more than a few games I don't think - he's cooked. Can't stand Mac Jones though, he's a nasty player. A fitting video, seeing as the chat this year is that the draft is deep on QB talent. Is JJ McArthy this year's Jones? I also wasn't sure if the talent is backed up because of the NIL changes, that there's a bunch of QBs who have stayed in College longer. As always, your content is brilliant, well put together and thoughtful. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for always coming back and dropping a comment! Why Russ gotta be cooked?! 🤣🤣 I agree though...
I think an autopsy should be done as to why Trey Lance didn’t work but Brock Purdy did considering their profiles and they were on the same team
Trey basically played one season at an FCS school. Why he was taken so high and why the team traded so much to get him is the mystery. It seemed like he could never grasp Kyle Shanahan’s offense since he struggled with short, quick passes so Kyle just gave up on him when he found someone who could run it better.
Before you write these guys off - do you think any of them have the Baker Mayfield/Geno Smith mojo about them? Both were left for dead to start but not now.
Jones & Fields played for awful teams and are better than they get credit for. Lance & Wilson we’re drafted because of their physical skills and teams failed to consider the fact they don’t know football, this is why true gamers like Purdy get overlooked.
Justin had 2 different offenses in 3 years, and a sh*tload of other roster issues that didn't start clicking until 6 months ago. Mac Jones had to deal with Bill Bellecheck stubbornness. And Trey never had the crutches that Purdy has; didn't play 1 game with CMC, kittle, Ayiuk and Deebo along side him/at the same time. Oh, Lawrence didn't get a new contract yet because the verdict isn't out in him. The jags still don't see him as a franchise qb
That dishonor belongs to NEXT years QB draft.
🤣
We’re not going to include that Trey lance’s first game was in a typhoon
Lance was third best QB while he was on the niners. They tried to shoehorn lance into the starter role and didn't pan out, is what it is.
@@MistaTofMaine yeah, no. Lance had a decent enough season as a rookie backup. Was a starter, got hurt. Rookie then out performs the absolute lowest of low expectations and rightfully came into 2023 as the starter. Lance never truly got a chance
I'm always amazed to see Fields stans display how little they know about football in the comments 😂
Trey Lance was just such a bad pick. I think he’s a bigger bust than Leaf due to how much San Francisco gave up for him.
Most GMs would be fired for that but Lynch got lucky with Purdy.
I mean I agree with most of this but that really is on Tray Lance, he was picked third overall and had a TON of chances to prove he was the guy, he got out competed and lost the job. We've seen some bad QBs look good in the 49ers system so if he cant make it work then it really is on him...
My neighbor works in the Chiefs front office and secretly tape records conversations. It's an open secret that if Mahomes has a down season, Andy Reid is trading Mahomes for Lawrence.
Looking back on this Draft can we agree these dudes really didn't have a chance.
Think about it Lawrence arguably got the one of the worst coaches not just in 21 century but all of the NFL history. And now he's getting better but he's not what he was hyped up to be as of now
Fields had like no weapons his rookie season then he got DJ Moore and look at that his numbers went up like crazy. The Bears organization is well known for not developing QB or giving them the support to help them and the team.
Mac Jones was the best QB in the draft their rookie year. He even got them to the playoffs. Next season they gave him a defensive coach as a offensive coordinator. The whole situation was both bad and a clown show. Then they really didn't even try last season with Belichick just being like screw it before the Patriots just blew everything up.
Trey Lance this one is tricky considering he was Injury Prone. If healthy I'm sure he would have played well for the 49ers though all those trades to get to him where bad look for the 49ers not Lance. Again Lance hasn't really played a lot cause of injuries but I'm sure he would have been fine since it's the 49ers an QB can look great or elite in that offense.
And Zach Wilson ehhhh😅 I see flashes but I do think he stinks and this is not coming from a place of hate dude has one or two games he looks great but other than that he's meh.
The thing that sucks about NFL to NBA. U can still be star in a sorry as team in the nba. For a QB to succeed u truly need everything to be a star
Lance is a high school qb. What the hell did they think to do that
Trey Lance was the 115th-ranked quarterback from his high school class who played only one full season for a 1-AA team. What did the NFL think would happen with Lance in the NFL?
The NBA is the same way with the 2020 draft class.
I think jones just got messed up by bad coaching and actually had a ton of potential.
That's not really fair to assume all of these guys failed or will fail. The situation they were selected into were not ideal for rookies, especially on a "leadership" level as part of one of their responsibilities. There special "players" for sure, but some needs time and development to be special. Rare to find a Lamar or Mahomes, even they had a year to learn and settled into their role.
This QB Class Was a Big Disgrace. Mac Jones Was The Worst And Is The Worst Of Everything. Mac Jones Is The Worst Alabama QB, Worst NFL QB And The Worst Draft Pick Ever. He's Just As Bas As Ryan Leaf. Also Bailey Zappe Is Also The Worst Draft Pick Ever Too Just Like Ryan Leaf.
I'm a Raider fan 1st. I don't think the 9ers mishandled Lance at all.. they gave him time and had a good roster and supporting cast. I guess all they did was miss on evaluating his ability. If he couldn't be successful in SF under Shanahan with those weapons I don't think he's capable of being a successful NFL Quarterback
I blame all the teams they were drafted too
ABSOLUTELY 😅
watching fields the passer was like pulling teeth
I still believe in Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields,Trey Lance and maybe Zach Wilson
As a Panthers fan, I can say with certainty: Don't listen to these idiot sports talk show hosts!
Sorry to be disagreeing but this isn't even the Top 5 worst QB draft class of the last 10 years, as a Jaguars fan Lawrence is clearly the future and answer turned his team from worst to 1st/2nd in his first 3 years with a busted OL and not much support otherwise, yes the other Qbs have clearly went on to be busts but Tlaw is in a different class.
He trash too
T-Law and Purdy, any QBs selected between those two are all bust! 😂😅
2002,2007 and 2010 were worse, since at least this draft had Lawrence.
Bo Nix to the Bears later in the day after the trade back 😁
THE 2013 DRAFT CLASS WAS WAYY WAYY WORSE THAN THESE GUYS THEY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO BE HEALTHY OR SET UP FOR SUCCESS THEY SHOULD’VE ALL REDSHIRTED AND THEN START THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR
The entire era from around 2016 to 2018 was just a bad era for the development of high school quarterbacks. Most of the elite five-star quarterbacks from that era, the quarterbacks you would expect to become franchise quarterbacks, were nothing but busts for several years, thus the NFL was forced to rely on middle-tier quarterback prospects from that era. Unfortunately, the middle-tier quarterbacks were not starting quarterback material either. You throw in the fact that the NFL is a quarterback league, and many teams are desperate for a top young quarterback as well as COVID hurt the development and evaluation of quarterbacks in that era as well, you have a recipe for the number of busts that 2021 produced.
None of these teams are good team and don't have weapons. That's one big reason, the other is maybe, they're just simply not that good anyways.
Honestly, I enjoyed it until the patriots segment. As a Packers fan, like what?
Mac beat out Cam because cam was that bad, I saw those games. Cam wasn't reading defenses. Number 1 not there? I run.
The hyperbole is INSANE. Nobody aside from Trevor Lawrence was viewed as generational.
2024 is looking like a big suck fest. Caleb W is a head case. Jayden is mediocre. I live in the PAC 12 footprint so know little about Maye. Penix looks real. JJ might be a system QB, Nix is old. Rattler looking flawed. Those are 7 of the QB's. Some GM's gonna get fired over this draft.
Ehh, the jury is still out on Lawrence imo
The proper way to pronounce the year is TWENTY TWENTY ONE, NOT TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY ONE
Feel better now?
No, I don't feel better. I really wanted to watch the video, but I couldn't. The pronunciation drives me crazy.
Two thousand twenty-one is technically the grammatically correct version
Worst QB draft class ever? My guy, this ain't even in the top 10. Obvious clickbait
Nah, the 2020 class is worse - Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, and Hurts. Just kidding.
2022 QB class is wayy worse than 2021 Atleast justin fields Trevor lawrence and brock purdy are serviceable QBs than Kenny pickett and malik willis
COVID made the Draft 🤢
I feel like you're living down to this channel's name. You thought of a title, listed things that Did Happen & said Absolutely Nothing Of Value whatever. Same with the Russell Wilson video. Not one word about how or why any of these QBs are a bust.
Nothing about *what* Urban Meyer did to hamper T-Law's career, just an assertion _that_ saying his name means he must have. That's at best rumor. Bringing up a topic then saying nothing *about it*_is_ Just Another _nothing_ Channel. Repeating old news like Lance's injury does what? Fills time.
Who needs Another Channel doing nothing but repeating what we Already Know? Wtf is the *point* of making videos repeating these things?
No analysis. All filler. What is your _goal_ in making these?
who is the narrator
Lance and Fields had similar stats 🗑️
We ruined Justin
lol this is a video of nothing but excuses for the most overhyped qb class ever i can tell the creator bought fully into the hype and cant believe these players just aren’t what they were hyped up to be
Justin fields will get his eyes back don’t worry
Cam Newton was horrible for the Pats dont go there
No Kyle the worst coach ever
One answer, Covid year
Ok the 2022 is far worse.
Only Kenny Pickett?…. Not worse just no qb’s…
Brock Purdy by himself negs this
@@fate8718 i mean yes overall Brock is better then any of the Qbs in the two drafts but at least T-Law is above average, Justin Fields still has potential, Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Lance will at least all be backups. Most of the 2022 QBs are already out of the league.
@@WiseguysProductions-2000 Baily was considered a better option to Mac
Trey is a borderline 3rd string
Jets tried shopping Zach, they wouldnt get even a 7th for him
Sure T-Law is average, He isnt Purdy
And we talk about how much Potential Justin has but he never shows it(And by that same account Sam Howell has the same potential he has just shown more)
The NFL's residential Potential Man
Its always
When with him
If with him
And never is
"Oh when he gets a good wide receiver he will go off"
He didnt
"Oh when he has time to throw he will slice up defenses"
He owns the longest average time per pass attempt in the league
"Oh if we give him a few years he will be great"
Its been 3
@@fate8718 I'm not saying Justin will pan out definitely but I feel being on the Steelers will give us a real look at what he's got playing with Mike Tomlin. But Lance really never had a healthy shot in SF. Mac Jones led the Patriots to the playoffs even if since then it hasn't panned out. But like who are you even saying is better??? Sam Howell i actually felt was punted too early, Pickett was just awful to watch, Malik Willis was third string last year, Corral plays for a UFL team now. Chris Oldakun plays as the emergency for the Chiefs, Desmond Ridder was awful on a team full of weapons he's already moving on too. And I agree with your stance on the potential game but you invest a top 10 pick into someone you'd think you'd give them a chance and want to build behind them.
You can't really judge Lance he never started to enough to say he can't be a starter
Just because a player isn't even good enough to be a back up doesn't mean we can't judge him
2022 might be worse lol
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