Gilmour didn't play bass on much of their tracks outside of the Wall album though. I can think of Pigs, Sheep (playing the part Roger had already written), and they both play on One of These Days. Usually it happened when Waters wanted to record the guitar for the bed tracks. Waters also gets absolutely no recognition for playing synth on a large amount of their output, and his guitar playing on the Animals album is a significant part of the harsher edge that album has.
@@DavySolarisApparently Echoes (the one that really matters) was naturally recorded in the amphitheater but a few of the other songs were done in the studio.
Yeah he is far from the best bassist, but he was a master at coming up with weird sound effects on bass, like the ticking sound in time, also he wrote and played the the Money bass line
You've heard wrong. Waters wrote the majority of the chord sequences and melodies on the Big Four, including Money. Of course, Gilmour did the guitar solo.@@NeoArmstrongJetArmstrongCannon
Roger himself stated in a 1992 interview that he never "was a bass player" I think to himself that when people call him a bass player its kind of insulting because he is a songwriter/singer first and foremost, now obviously he was the main bass player in the early days of Floyd and could actually play some cool lines but yeah the man wrote the fucking bassline for money and all their hits so...
Watch the Live at Pompeii version of 'Echoes'. The guy could definitely play. I remember Gilmour said he wanted Roger to focus more on developing his bass playing but Roger was too busy writing lyrics and curating concepts for the band. So, he wasn't bad. He just wasn't that invested in being the Floyd's bass player. Makes me appreciate Paul McCartney more since he did both at the same time.
Well yeah McCartney was the anal retentive by the books guy. Lennon was the who tf cares guy. That ying and yang made the beatles. Well that and Harrison who never gets any credit even though he wrote some if their best songs.
McCartney songs had simple lyrics. He’s more focused on music itself. In his Wings period lyrics is very simple. Roger is one of the best lyricists in rock music
Roger can definitely play, obviously he came up with the riff for Money (which is considered one of the greatest bass riffs of all time) and his playing on Echoes is great as well but listen to him on some of the Floyd’s earlier material like Interstellar Overdrive, Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun, Careful With That Axe, Eugene, Let There Be More Light (one of the coolest intro bass solos ever imo), Time (the ticking sounds during the intro is indeed him as well), Dogs (the one song on Animals where he did play bass), Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) and Comfortably Numb to just get a glimpse of what he can do
Comfortably numb is a good track to differentiate between Gilmour and Waters' bass sounds, because on the album version the bass track is a mix of the takes they each recorded, and in the film Waters' take was used in its entirety.
Okay I love that song but who the fuck considers it “one of the greatest bass riffs of all time” lmao it’s just a walking pattern that repeats the entire song
Roger's bass parts helped define Pink Floyd's sound in a significant way. If Jaco Pastorius played bass for Floyd, it would kill the sculpted ambiance of Floyd's music. So, Roger was the perfect bassist for Floyd.
Not just his bass. He wrote all the lyrics for the Wish You Were Here album. The most tricky bass lines were recorded by Gilmour, but Waters' songwriting is what really truly shines the most. Just editing in: he also wrote the lyrics for the albums The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon (except maybe 3 or 4 co-written with Gilmour) AND Animals (except the song Dogs co-written with Gilmour)
i saw rare footage of zappa jamming with the floyd c.1969 when they were still very freeform-jazz influenced. zappa listened intently a long time before joining in; he understood the dynamics but you could tell that philosophically the vibes just didn't really mesh to catch lightning in a bottle. but that's also the nature of psych/jazz: a band could have a disaster set the very next night after a blockbuster at the same venue for any number of variables
Right people are expecting every bass player to be and play like victor wooten as if that makes them better bass players or more appropriate in the context of the band they are in. How they worked, worked perfectly well for them so why are we retrospectively criticising something that created meddle, animals, the wall, dark side, wish you were here? What has the maker of this video contributed to that is even approaching those piece of music? Nothing? Well then. Clearly what he thinks isnt working as well as Roger Waters being part of Pink Floyd worked for them.
It's a great bass line, but it's not hard to play at all. That's if you're capable of more than bashing away in 4/4. It does exactly what the song needs, but it's hardly an example of anything that requires advanced skills. If you can count "one-two-three-one-two-three-four". Granted that's nigh impossible for a lot of folks these days...
@@andrewpappas9311 absolutely *the* most important thing i took away from floyd was the philosophy of getting music out of all the supposedly nonmusical parts of an instrument. they in turn got their music concréte influences from a band of experimentalists called *ammmusic*
I have said it before hundreds of times in my very long life. David Gilmour took Pink Floyd from a fading psychedelic pop band, and turn them into the most powerful progressive rock band in history. If he would not have come along, after Barrett burned out, Pink Floyd would have been nothing but a footnote in psychedelic 60s music. Even Rogers songwriting could not have saved them without the musical Genius of David Gilmour
@@Randy_Reacts I would agree with that. But what makes this band something we still Revere instead of some name from the 1960s is the fact that he joined, and he made the band what it is. If Syd Barrett would have stayed, we would have been talking about a 60s era psychedelic band
Strongly disagree. I think without Nick Mason or Richard Wright Floyd couldn’t have Echoes, with no Echoes there wouldn’t be any Floyd we know and love afterall. DSOTM made them biggest. It wasn’t only Gilmour. Great Gig In Sky, Any Colour You Like - Rick did it. Money mostly is famous because sounds effects and Roger’s bass line. It was all of them who succeed. Not just one member. I doubt DSOTM would be so loved if there wasn’t Alan Parsons. Without Roger concepts, lyrics Floyd became empty immo.
@СерафимТоманов I wasn't speaking about who was individually responsible for certain pieces of work, I was talking about the direction change when he came on board. Just like how the Rolling Stones changed as a band with Mick Taylor came on, even though Mick didn't do a lot of the song writing. Not only did David Gilmour become one of the important composers and lyricists of the band, but my point was more importantly, he is the guy who changed the formula of the band from a psychedelic band to the greatest progressive band of all time. They could have easily withered away as a 60s psychedelic band. It was his guitar and his influence and his amazing work that helped bridged into progressive rock and roll. Even when Rodger Waters wrote the wall, it was David's guitar that musical mark on that piece of work
I mean, he is no Cliff Burton, but he did write the bass parts of Money and Echoes, which is one of my favorite songs of all time. Any bass part he wrote fit each song PERFECTLY, and that is undeniable. Not to mention, Money’s part is groovy while set at an odd time signature (7/8). Try to follow that on drums and you realize no one was fucking around in that band.
I'm sure you heard this one then. There was a man exploring in Africa when he started hearing drums and the locals were getting nervous. The drums started to get louder and more intense and the natives were muttering "When the drums stop....... it will come" The explorer started to get scared and asked "After the drums stop what will happen" The natives sighed and said " the bass solo"
Waters was always an example of a songwriter above all else, and started off as a guitarist additionally too. However, that's to say he can't play bass. Echoes are a prime example, and Any Color You Like is another. fantastic example. While I've heard questionable stuff like Wright needing to tune his bass on I think The Wall tours, that's contentious and I don't know if it's confirmed. In the end, Pink Floyd has always been a band where the playing is just done by what needs to get done. Gilmour made the fretless bass parts in Pigs, Hey You, etc. but Waters could still play them well.
@@ObjectorSnark I know but even then, Roger wouldn’t even sleep in the trailer he had near the rest of the band, he would stay at hotels away from them.
Rick tuned all of their instruments before gigs, in the early days. I even remember seeing Dave tuning Roger's bass during a gig. Probably didn't have the best ears, he quite often sings out of tune. He could definitely play though, not impressively, sometimes very basic, but also often tastefully.
Ah yes, the more you learn about Roger Waters, the more of a scumbag you figure him out to be. He's despised by EVERYONE he worked with, and plays second fiddle to putin now, which is even more embarrassing than dressing up as an SS officer at concerts at his age.
The members of Pink Floyd would be session men if not for Roger Waters. As tallented as he is, would anybody even know who David Gillmore is if Syd Barret had'nt broke his mind with psychadelics & hypnotics. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the greatest guitarists in the world. The fact of the matter is he's riding the train Syd & Roger built.
I respectfully disagree. True, Syd and Waters founded the Floyd sound, but Gilmour took it to far greater heights than the original pairing could've ever achieved. I mean, let's face it: besides a few rare gems, the Floyd catalog pre Gilmour was kind of talentless.
It goes back to what I've always said, that all those bassists that get featured "shredding" are not adding much to the band or the music, a solid bass line, on the other hand, makes everyone sound good. Or it carries the song, like on "Money" or the Pink Panther theme.
Yeah, but I can play bass like he does too and I wouldn't say I "play bass". He's a very average bass player. But then I can't write the songs he wrote. And that's his actual contribution to early Floyd. He was very, very good creatively. (having said that - Gilmour and Wright were the musical directors anyway).
@@zoeherriot I dont think you can play bass like he can play bass. There are plenty of examples of him playing bass well in live performances. This video is just ridiculous.
@@briumphbimbles I can play bass like he plays bass. I’ve played in bands for years. The problem with Roger is he just never got better. I don’t think he saw it as anything more than a means to an end. I’m grateful he decided to put his ideas into music - but that music wouldn’t have existed without Gilmour and Wright (and Mason too).
@@zoeherriot Pick floyd wouldn't have existed without any of its members. It wouldn't have existed if Syd Barrett didn't lose his mind. It was a product of those exact people all coming together at that exact time so pretending like he wasnt an intrinsically valuable member of the band if you like their music is myopic to say the least. Swap him out with anyone and pink floyd wouldnt have been pink floyd anymore.
If Waters hadn't written the songs Gilmour would never have had the opportunity to shine.... Waters was the visionary, Gilmour the functionary, albeit a bloody good one...
I mean if you listen to any of the bootlegs of Pink Floyd performing from 1972 to 1975 you’ll find that Roger was a very competent and at times a pretty damn good bass player as well. Also, if you listen to his bass on Live at Pompeii, specifically the live renditions of Echoes and Careful with that Axe Eugene, you’ll find that Roger is not only a pretty good bass player, the man also knew how to groove as well.
That entire song is priceless. The keyboards, the bass, obviously the vocals! That piece was when all the stars aligned to create nothing short of magic.
The bass playing on Piper from 1967 is presumably all Waters, recorded before Gilmour was in the band. The bass on that album is pretty solid, some good runs on Lucifer Sam, Matilda Mother, and The Gnome. No fuckups as far as I can tell. Back then he was engaged and showed effort playing songs that were almost entirely written by Barrett. Later on he became too lazy to play bass on his own songs. If Waters was playing that way in '67, he had great potential but he wasn't down with it. Couldn't be bothered. Bassically, he might have actually regressed as years went on.
Try "One of these days", among many others (you might like the earlier "Careful with that axe, Eugene" for its protopunk style). He could play. He just wasn't as geeky about technique as Gilmour - much as I love Gilmour as a guitar player and vocalist. Of course, among recent decades of guitards, Gilmour gets derided as a "feel" player who doesn't have real technique. Whatever.
Wow man I was just listening to Pigs today and was wondering if you would make a "can Roger Waters actually play bass" video, never knew that was Gilmour in those songs, your awsome man. Hey I think a Tool bass tone video would be cool, Paul D'Amour specifically, if you haven't already
He's actually a really excellent and underrated bassist. He knows exactly when to play a note and how to play it. The version of Echoes from Live at Pompeii is his best performances in my opinion. His playing on that version is nothing short of beautiful.
One of the most Iconic bass riffs of all time the one on Money was actually written by Waters on a 6 string acoustic guitar. Gilmour transcribed it to bass for the song.
OK. that bit on the Ricky, that was free improve and a great example of what Rog3er was great at: conceptualizing. The ticking clocks in "Time"? That's him muting the strings and plucking them near the bridge.
Listen to echoes, money, set the controls for the heart of the sun, interstellar overdrive, Seamus the dog, etc.. I can go on forever. Roger waters is one of the best bassist in the world
Second attempt: you should try do Mike Rutherford early Genesis bass tone: one of the three masters of the Rickenbacker in Prog, alongside Squire and Lee. Get 'em out by Friday, Harold the Barrel and Robbery, Assault and Battery all have killer basslines.
I dont care if Roger Waters is a virtuosso or not. I would pay for many of his concerts... but I won´t pay for a David Gilmoure concert. It's his artistry, his lyrics, the emotions Water's music creates. More than an bass virtuoso, is an overall artist, creator, story teller, song writer
Roger played on all the early stuff. He has a very distinctive style,it’s easy to tell when he’s playing bass. He’s come up with some great lines over the years too
The good part of Alans Psychedelic Breakfast on Atom Heart Mother has such a beautifully woven in bass part. As far as i know its his work but wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt
Interestingly enough Roger played guitar and wrote a well respected deeper cut from Echoes- Fearless. He used an acoustic guitar in open G to write and play the main riff throughout the song.
I had that Sex Pistols book in 1977! That brought back a lot of memories for me. I’m 62 now, but I still listen to NMTB at least once a week. Best album ever! 🇬🇧👌
Last night I listened to the live CD "Is There Anybody In There". No Dave Gilmore bass on there, and there are some pretty impressive bass bits. It seems like that quote you highlighted is the sort of thing Dave Gilmore light say, but that's not the same thing as it being reality.
I wouldn't put too much stock in what David says... There's animosity on both sides contrary to the conventional wisdom on PF where Roger's the firebrand and the others were just hapless fellas in it for the love of the music. Roger might not be the best bassist in prog but the lines we know he did write and lay down are some of the coolest. The bass on Piper alone is legendary in my mind. Full disclosure, i love PF and everyone that ever had a hand in that band but I'm a Roger guy.
Go listen to Raving And Drooling live 1972. It's an early version of Dogs and Roger absolutely SHREDS his bass. It's nuts. Dude absolutely had chops live, but he generally would let Gilmour record the strings in studio.
@@jetskimaestro3185I'm a big enough fan of Pink Floyd to have guessed it was Echoes the first time I heard it. The descending riff is what gave it away.
I actually remember when Roger won the best bass player category in the annual Playboy poll, (right after Animals came out). I didn’t learn until years later that was Dave’s bass playing on Pigs!
David has levelled too many allegations on Roger's playing and Roger never responded back on them as far as I know. However, on Pigs Roger himself picked the acoustic to for the studio recording and David as he said would do it more quickly. Still in live versions it was Roger who was playing since DSTOM tours when Animals songs were actually played albeit with a different name. Roger usually set the ground works and other would fill. Remember, it was Roger who picked up the intro for WYWH while Gilmour was just musing and then SOYCD. What Roger did with bass (Playing the tick tok on DSTOM) coming up with the riff of One of these days and the Let there be more light + Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun on Saucerful of Secrets. Which other Bassist these days have come up with riffs that opens the song? He may not be best bassist but his got his own signature and Money is a highlight.
Day 14 of asking for Paul McGuigan’s bass tone of Oasis NOTE: Don’t use Wonderwall as an example because the bassline was actually recorded by Noel Gallagher and not McGuigan. A couple great examples of his bass tone are from the songs Some Might Say and Morning Glory. Thanks!
Gilmours bass playing is distinctively lead lines played on bass as in syd barretts solo album also listen to wots the deal from obscured by clouds a beautiful lead line played an octave lower but bass wise it is pants.
He was no Jaco but he had his own simple style that served it's purpose, much like Mason on drums. Pink Floyd was all about Waters songwriting, Gilmours guitar and Richard Wrights keyboard playing.
I love Floyd and I like Roger’s simple style, that being said if I’m playing along to one of their songs on bass I do find myself adding in extra fills and lines just to fill in the Empty Spaces (pun somewhat intended)
No one should be faulted for letting David Gilmour fill in for them.
Very true haha
Fair point, but if he had been interested in improving himself musically, he probably would have been able to hold his own
Well...cant argue fit that
Yea except if you're...The Bass Player in the band 😂
Gilmour didn't play bass on much of their tracks outside of the Wall album though. I can think of Pigs, Sheep (playing the part Roger had already written), and they both play on One of These Days. Usually it happened when Waters wanted to record the guitar for the bed tracks. Waters also gets absolutely no recognition for playing synth on a large amount of their output, and his guitar playing on the Animals album is a significant part of the harsher edge that album has.
Watch live in Pompeii and tell me he can’t play bass. Also he was more of a songwriter than a bassist
This. This was what i was gonna comment
AFAIK pompeii is mostly reconstructed in studio so we don't actually know Gilmour didn't do that too haha
Agreed. But if it is reconstructed…😅
...and Gilmore is more a guitarist than a lyricist, doesn't he get his wife to write Floyds later songs.
@@DavySolarisApparently Echoes (the one that really matters) was naturally recorded in the amphitheater but a few of the other songs were done in the studio.
OK but the tone on Echoes at the end is *gorgeous* though
* checks notes
Gilmour dialed that in for em
The studio version of Echoes has a gorgeous bass tone all through it.
What gorge are people referring to? Grand Canyon? Gorgeous? Weird word number one All Times. Gorge? Huh?
Yeah he is far from the best bassist, but he was a master at coming up with weird sound effects on bass, like the ticking sound in time, also he wrote and played the the Money bass line
You definitely just watched the guy pratt interview on sbl
From what I've heard it was Gilmoure who wrote Money.
@@NeoArmstrongJetArmstrongCannon No
Money was no doubt his best baseline. Iconic!!
You've heard wrong. Waters wrote the majority of the chord sequences and melodies on the Big Four, including Money. Of course, Gilmour did the guitar solo.@@NeoArmstrongJetArmstrongCannon
Dinosaur Jr bass tone please
This!!!
PLEASE
would love to see this as well, i’m a big fan of lou barlow’s work in dinosaur jr
I second that
This dude doesn't know shit about dinosaur jr lol. He's a loser.
Roger himself stated in a 1992 interview that he never "was a bass player" I think to himself that when people call him a bass player its kind of insulting because he is a songwriter/singer first and foremost, now obviously he was the main bass player in the early days of Floyd and could actually play some cool lines but yeah the man wrote the fucking bassline for money and all their hits so...
Started as lead, then rythmn, then bass, said he feared being delegated to the drums. Whatever, wrote some damn fine songs.
Watch the Live at Pompeii version of 'Echoes'. The guy could definitely play.
I remember Gilmour said he wanted Roger to focus more on developing his bass playing but Roger was too busy writing lyrics and curating concepts for the band.
So, he wasn't bad. He just wasn't that invested in being the Floyd's bass player. Makes me appreciate Paul McCartney more since he did both at the same time.
Well yeah McCartney was the anal retentive by the books guy. Lennon was the who tf cares guy. That ying and yang made the beatles. Well that and Harrison who never gets any credit even though he wrote some if their best songs.
lol McCartney had Lennon who was the best songwriter of the band plus Harrison
McCartney songs had simple lyrics. He’s more focused on music itself. In his Wings period lyrics is very simple. Roger is one of the best lyricists in rock music
Roger can definitely play, obviously he came up with the riff for Money (which is considered one of the greatest bass riffs of all time) and his playing on Echoes is great as well but listen to him on some of the Floyd’s earlier material like Interstellar Overdrive, Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun, Careful With That Axe, Eugene, Let There Be More Light (one of the coolest intro bass solos ever imo), Time (the ticking sounds during the intro is indeed him as well), Dogs (the one song on Animals where he did play bass), Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) and Comfortably Numb to just get a glimpse of what he can do
Comfortably numb is a good track to differentiate between Gilmour and Waters' bass sounds, because on the album version the bass track is a mix of the takes they each recorded, and in the film Waters' take was used in its entirety.
One of these days has just entered the chat
Okay I love that song but who the fuck considers it “one of the greatest bass riffs of all time” lmao it’s just a walking pattern that repeats the entire song
I'm with you on Let There Be More Light, one of my favorite Floyd tracks and one Hell of an intro!!!
@@Tony-hu7uk Yeah, definitely one of their coolest early tracks and the main riff afterwards is just as killer
Roger's bass parts helped define Pink Floyd's sound in a significant way. If Jaco Pastorius played bass for Floyd, it would kill the sculpted ambiance of Floyd's music. So, Roger was the perfect bassist for Floyd.
Not just his bass. He wrote all the lyrics for the Wish You Were Here album. The most tricky bass lines were recorded by Gilmour, but Waters' songwriting is what really truly shines the most. Just editing in: he also wrote the lyrics for the albums The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon (except maybe 3 or 4 co-written with Gilmour) AND Animals (except the song Dogs co-written with Gilmour)
I feel like Jaco would of done a pretty good job if he understood what was the band's sound, but he fits in better with Jazz and weather report
i saw rare footage of zappa jamming with the floyd c.1969 when they were still very freeform-jazz influenced. zappa listened intently a long time before joining in; he understood the dynamics but you could tell that philosophically the vibes just didn't really mesh to catch lightning in a bottle.
but that's also the nature of psych/jazz: a band could have a disaster set the very next night after a blockbuster at the same venue for any number of variables
first duty of the musician, especially and utmost in the recording studio is to serve the song, not the player.
Right people are expecting every bass player to be and play like victor wooten as if that makes them better bass players or more appropriate in the context of the band they are in.
How they worked, worked perfectly well for them so why are we retrospectively criticising something that created meddle, animals, the wall, dark side, wish you were here?
What has the maker of this video contributed to that is even approaching those piece of music? Nothing? Well then. Clearly what he thinks isnt working as well as Roger Waters being part of Pink Floyd worked for them.
Day 74 of asking for John Paul Jones’ bass tone
I love JPJ's playing 👍
Way underrated
My first bass hero.
@@digitaljanus same
I spent decades trying to nail Zep II bass sounds and I finally have, after all these years
Most are familiar with the 7/4 timed Floyd track, ‘Money’ and its iconic bass line. All Waters, ‘nuff said.
It's a great bass line, but it's not hard to play at all. That's if you're capable of more than bashing away in 4/4.
It does exactly what the song needs, but it's hardly an example of anything that requires advanced skills. If you can count "one-two-three-one-two-three-four".
Granted that's nigh impossible for a lot of folks these days...
@@henrygvidonas9573 I didn’t say it was difficult, just iconic.
"Nuff said"? Are we back in the 2000s again? God i hope not.
@@bradsanders407 Never read a Marvel comic? Dating back to the 60s and still going strong.
@@henrygvidonas9573 Whatre are you even yapping about? The question was can he play bass? The answer is yes jfc lol
John Wetton’s King crimson bass tone
YES!!!!!!!!@@!!!
Especially the Red bass tone. The way the bass comes back in at the end of starless is monstrous
Never gets enough props
Roger violated that Rickenbacker and not in a good way.
It was 1967 lol, pretty normal for the time.
That's actually how he played Time
Welcome to psychedelic rock, also he did that same technique on Time so it’s not that strange. It actually sounds really cool
Just open your mind to a little bit different ways to play thing man
@@andrewpappas9311 absolutely *the* most important thing i took away from floyd was the philosophy of getting music out of all the supposedly nonmusical parts of an instrument. they in turn got their music concréte influences from a band of experimentalists called *ammmusic*
Just watch Live at Pompeii
I haven't seen that yet. Does he play bass there? or BEHS!!!
I have said it before hundreds of times in my very long life. David Gilmour took Pink Floyd from a fading psychedelic pop band, and turn them into the most powerful progressive rock band in history. If he would not have come along, after Barrett burned out, Pink Floyd would have been nothing but a footnote in psychedelic 60s music. Even Rogers songwriting could not have saved them without the musical Genius of David Gilmour
Perfectly said! I tip my glass to you 🍸!!
Yes, Gilmour's multi-instrument talent saved PF musically. That said, post-Waters PF is nowhere near as good as PF with Waters.
@@Randy_Reacts I would agree with that. But what makes this band something we still Revere instead of some name from the 1960s is the fact that he joined, and he made the band what it is. If Syd Barrett would have stayed, we would have been talking about a 60s era psychedelic band
Strongly disagree. I think without Nick Mason or Richard Wright Floyd couldn’t have Echoes, with no Echoes there wouldn’t be any Floyd we know and love afterall.
DSOTM made them biggest. It wasn’t only Gilmour.
Great Gig In Sky, Any Colour You Like - Rick did it. Money mostly is famous because sounds effects and Roger’s bass line.
It was all of them who succeed. Not just one member. I doubt DSOTM would be so loved if there wasn’t Alan Parsons.
Without Roger concepts, lyrics Floyd became empty immo.
@СерафимТоманов I wasn't speaking about who was individually responsible for certain pieces of work, I was talking about the direction change when he came on board. Just like how the Rolling Stones changed as a band with Mick Taylor came on, even though Mick didn't do a lot of the song writing. Not only did David Gilmour become one of the important composers and lyricists of the band, but my point was more importantly, he is the guy who changed the formula of the band from a psychedelic band to the greatest progressive band of all time. They could have easily withered away as a 60s psychedelic band. It was his guitar and his influence and his amazing work that helped bridged into progressive rock and roll. Even when Rodger Waters wrote the wall, it was David's guitar that musical mark on that piece of work
His playing on "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" is nothing short of perfection.
I loved that you mentioned the fretless on Hey You...
Such a great song...
I mean, he is no Cliff Burton, but he did write the bass parts of Money and Echoes, which is one of my favorite songs of all time. Any bass part he wrote fit each song PERFECTLY, and that is undeniable. Not to mention, Money’s part is groovy while set at an odd time signature (7/8). Try to follow that on drums and you realize no one was fucking around in that band.
I thought it was 7/4?
“One Of These Days” from Meddle is BOTH Waters and Gilmour, overdubbed, on behs
Comfortably Numb is also a mix of two takes - one Gilmour, one Waters. The film version uses only the Waters take.
He sounded pretty good at the last concert they did together
I saw him at the Us+Them show in Perth. He has a second bassist for most of the complex stuff.
@@Welcome2TheInternet I was talking about the pink floyd reunion show.
I'm usually the guy that loves bass player jokes, but you are awesome. The only RUclips bass player I subscribe to. Rock on.
I'm sure you heard this one then. There was a man exploring in Africa when he started hearing drums and the locals were getting nervous. The drums started to get louder and more intense and the natives were muttering "When the drums stop....... it will come" The explorer started to get scared and asked "After the drums stop what will happen" The natives sighed and said " the bass solo"
Waters was always an example of a songwriter above all else, and started off as a guitarist additionally too. However, that's to say he can't play bass. Echoes are a prime example, and Any Color You Like is another. fantastic example. While I've heard questionable stuff like Wright needing to tune his bass on I think The Wall tours, that's contentious and I don't know if it's confirmed.
In the end, Pink Floyd has always been a band where the playing is just done by what needs to get done. Gilmour made the fretless bass parts in Pigs, Hey You, etc. but Waters could still play them well.
I doubt Roger would have let Rick touch his basses at all since Roger had Rick fired from the band during recording sessions of The Wall.
@@yourlocalryan he hired him back to play on tour though
@@ObjectorSnark I know but even then, Roger wouldn’t even sleep in the trailer he had near the rest of the band, he would stay at hotels away from them.
Rick tuned all of their instruments before gigs, in the early days. I even remember seeing Dave tuning Roger's bass during a gig. Probably didn't have the best ears, he quite often sings out of tune. He could definitely play though, not impressively, sometimes very basic, but also often tastefully.
@@SyfollI mean, I can't really judge Roger for being somewhat tone deaf. I myself can't tune a guitar for shit without my electronic tuner.
Yeah, he's no Geddy Lee but he can play bass. More of a conceptualist and writer than a great player
Roger was perfectly capable of playing bass. He just didn’t want to. He’s said multiple times that he never liked playing bass that much.
Waters doesn't like anything "that much"
@@enjoi62137that's not true. He enjoys complaining and treating other people like shit.
@@brendanm6921 Y'all its a bonfire and we're cooking Roger Waters over it.
Ah yes, the more you learn about Roger Waters, the more of a scumbag you figure him out to be. He's despised by EVERYONE he worked with, and plays second fiddle to putin now, which is even more embarrassing than dressing up as an SS officer at concerts at his age.
He is way more into politics than he is into bass
This
That's why he's goated
doesn't make him a shit bassist
@@scuffedcovers he is as average as a a bass player can be, no groove
@@ranmitrani3948 separate the politics from the art, dont make everything political bro
The members of Pink Floyd would be session men if not for Roger Waters. As tallented as he is, would anybody even know who David Gillmore is if Syd Barret had'nt broke his mind with psychadelics & hypnotics. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the greatest guitarists in the world. The fact of the matter is he's riding the train Syd & Roger built.
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I respectfully disagree. True, Syd and Waters founded the Floyd sound, but Gilmour took it to far greater heights than the original pairing could've ever achieved. I mean, let's face it: besides a few rare gems, the Floyd catalog pre Gilmour was kind of talentless.
@@michaeldileo8815are you saying Bike isn't a classic gem? 😂
@@travisazzopardi8024 Almost but not quite lol!
It goes back to what I've always said, that all those bassists that get featured "shredding" are not adding much to the band or the music, a solid bass line, on the other hand, makes everyone sound good. Or it carries the song, like on "Money" or the Pink Panther theme.
Thanks mate for that behs insight and I loved the echoes clip at the end😊
Of course he can play bass
Yeah, but I can play bass like he does too and I wouldn't say I "play bass". He's a very average bass player. But then I can't write the songs he wrote. And that's his actual contribution to early Floyd. He was very, very good creatively.
(having said that - Gilmour and Wright were the musical directors anyway).
@@zoeherriot I dont think you can play bass like he can play bass. There are plenty of examples of him playing bass well in live performances. This video is just ridiculous.
@@briumphbimbles I can play bass like he plays bass. I’ve played in bands for years. The problem with Roger is he just never got better. I don’t think he saw it as anything more than a means to an end.
I’m grateful he decided to put his ideas into music - but that music wouldn’t have existed without Gilmour and Wright (and Mason too).
@@zoeherriot Pick floyd wouldn't have existed without any of its members. It wouldn't have existed if Syd Barrett didn't lose his mind. It was a product of those exact people all coming together at that exact time so pretending like he wasnt an intrinsically valuable member of the band if you like their music is myopic to say the least.
Swap him out with anyone and pink floyd wouldnt have been pink floyd anymore.
But can he play BEHS?
Happiest Days of Our Lives is my favourite Pink Floyd bassline.
Waters was more of a songwriter than anything. As someone who would hire out musicians to play all my songs if I could afford it, I sympathize.
Pls Mercyful Fate Behs Tone pls
YES
^^^^ hell yeah
If Waters hadn't written the songs Gilmour would never have had the opportunity to shine....
Waters was the visionary, Gilmour the functionary, albeit a bloody good one...
Good lord yes.... at least back in the day. I haven't seen Roger perform in years
I mean if you listen to any of the bootlegs of Pink Floyd performing from 1972 to 1975 you’ll find that Roger was a very competent and at times a pretty damn good bass player as well. Also, if you listen to his bass on Live at Pompeii, specifically the live renditions of Echoes and Careful with that Axe Eugene, you’ll find that Roger is not only a pretty good bass player, the man also knew how to groove as well.
I still love that footage from the early 70's of Dave tuning Roger's bass for him while playing onstage.
You should've used The Great Gig In The Sky as an example of his actual bass playing. The bass playing on that song as absolutely phenomenal
That entire song is priceless. The keyboards, the bass, obviously the vocals! That piece was when all the stars aligned to create nothing short of magic.
@@michaeldileo8815 the drums and the lap steel too
The bass playing on Piper from 1967 is presumably all Waters, recorded before Gilmour was in the band. The bass on that album is pretty solid, some good runs on Lucifer Sam, Matilda Mother, and The Gnome. No fuckups as far as I can tell. Back then he was engaged and showed effort playing songs that were almost entirely written by Barrett. Later on he became too lazy to play bass on his own songs. If Waters was playing that way in '67, he had great potential but he wasn't down with it. Couldn't be bothered. Bassically, he might have actually regressed as years went on.
Roger is a good guitar player and probably plays other instruments too. But the guy who wrote the OST for Bully on the PS2 has some explaining to do.
Your a beast on that ricky bro...sounds like we got alot of the same style.....pick players unite!!!
Try "One of these days", among many others (you might like the earlier "Careful with that axe, Eugene" for its protopunk style). He could play. He just wasn't as geeky about technique as Gilmour - much as I love Gilmour as a guitar player and vocalist. Of course, among recent decades of guitards, Gilmour gets derided as a "feel" player who doesn't have real technique. Whatever.
What's a guitard?
For anyone wondering, the last clip was Echoes
I don't even know why people are even asking this question... Of course he can!
Uhhh probably in order for people to watch his videos about bass, I would guess. Dude is just doing this for views.
@@enjoi62137Everything on RUclips is "done for the views."
Wow man I was just listening to Pigs today and was wondering if you would make a "can Roger Waters actually play bass" video, never knew that was Gilmour in those songs, your awsome man. Hey I think a Tool bass tone video would be cool, Paul D'Amour specifically, if you haven't already
What about the Money bass lines? Was Roger a bass player? Or Have a Cigar bass lines
I watched him play Money on an acoustic guitar, so technically he should be able to play it on behs. 🤷🏻♂️
Behsed on the brief clip from "Echoes" at the end, he was capable, but Gilmour is on another level, for certain.
Perhaps Michael Anthony's bass tone?
that echoes clip at the end was clean af
Day 1 asking for robert Trujillo's bass tone
He's actually a really excellent and underrated bassist. He knows exactly when to play a note and how to play it. The version of Echoes from Live at Pompeii is his best performances in my opinion. His playing on that version is nothing short of beautiful.
A great bassist knows when not to play.
One of the most Iconic bass riffs of all time the one on Money was actually written by Waters on a 6 string acoustic guitar. Gilmour transcribed it to bass for the song.
Casiopea ベース tone!
OK. that bit on the Ricky, that was free improve and a great example of what Rog3er was great at: conceptualizing. The ticking clocks in "Time"? That's him muting the strings and plucking them near the bridge.
Real bass player is Waters !
Con-trof-a-sea. I love the way you guys says stuff 😂
Day 121 for Louis Johnson behs tone
DUDE YES!
Yes he can, i saw Pink Floyd in 74 and 79 playing live. But i like your videos, you're really funny and play great too. Best.
He can. And, actually, he made the most popular bassline ever: Money. That is not Gilmour. Go to see Echoes from the Live at Pompeii and enjoy 😊
Listen to echoes, money, set the controls for the heart of the sun, interstellar overdrive, Seamus the dog, etc.. I can go on forever. Roger waters is one of the best bassist in the world
Roger doesn't need to play bass , since he has talent.
what talent does he have? dogwater singer, dogwater player, dogwater composer.
Do you mean "he hires talent"?
Where is his talent exactly? As a solo musician he sucks, as a bass player he sucks. And Pink Floyd Is an overrated band with 3 good records...
2 years after Animals came out, Kiss kind of nicked Gilmore's bass line there from Pigs, for "I was made for loving you"
Not sure about BEHS, but he CAN talk shit for sure.
Any colour you like it at wembley 74 is the best example i can think of, very groovy and he uses natural harmonics a bit, which i never expected
Roger may not be the best bassist, but he is the greatest elderly activist✊
Second attempt: you should try do Mike Rutherford early Genesis bass tone: one of the three masters of the Rickenbacker in Prog, alongside Squire and Lee.
Get 'em out by Friday, Harold the Barrel and Robbery, Assault and Battery all have killer basslines.
Also "I know what I like" had cool bassline!
he can not
Actually he can
he's an outstanding bass player. Just listen to live at the Empire Pool. Incredible.
This channel is very politically biased. We all know why you are dissing RW
Literally
I dont care if Roger Waters is a virtuosso or not. I would pay for many of his concerts... but I won´t pay for a David Gilmoure concert. It's his artistry, his lyrics, the emotions Water's music creates. More than an bass virtuoso, is an overall artist, creator, story teller, song writer
Roger played on all the early stuff. He has a very distinctive style,it’s easy to tell when he’s playing bass. He’s come up with some great lines over the years too
It sounds like he knows what he's doing, from that small sample.
He still played all those songs live, and did a dandy job of it.
that echoes bass line, while simple asf, still
incredible groove and note choice
The good part of Alans Psychedelic Breakfast on Atom Heart Mother has such a beautifully woven in bass part. As far as i know its his work but wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt
and yet his riffs were good enough to be ripped off, later to be settled in court
The dogs bassline that starts around the middle of the song is great
Interestingly enough Roger played guitar and wrote a well respected deeper cut from Echoes- Fearless. He used an acoustic guitar in open G to write and play the main riff throughout the song.
I had that Sex Pistols book in 1977! That brought back a lot of memories for me. I’m 62 now, but I still listen to NMTB at least once a week. Best album ever! 🇬🇧👌
Last night I listened to the live CD "Is There Anybody In There".
No Dave Gilmore bass on there, and there are some pretty impressive bass bits.
It seems like that quote you highlighted is the sort of thing Dave Gilmore light say, but that's not the same thing as it being reality.
I like that better than the original Wall release
Your rickenbacker bass is 🔥
Love the grove on Echoes
He made his bass sound like a clock. Goddamn genius to me.
That is a very snazzy jacket/shirt
Have Respect for a true Genius, I personally have seen him live and he is more than capable ✌️
Love the shirt!!
I wouldn't put too much stock in what David says... There's animosity on both sides contrary to the conventional wisdom on PF where Roger's the firebrand and the others were just hapless fellas in it for the love of the music. Roger might not be the best bassist in prog but the lines we know he did write and lay down are some of the coolest. The bass on Piper alone is legendary in my mind. Full disclosure, i love PF and everyone that ever had a hand in that band but I'm a Roger guy.
plink plink, touch touch touch, plink plink, touch touch
Go listen to Raving And Drooling live 1972. It's an early version of Dogs and Roger absolutely SHREDS his bass. It's nuts. Dude absolutely had chops live, but he generally would let Gilmour record the strings in studio.
You are the perfect host for BEHS
Comment 23 asking for Flea’s bass tone in Higher Ground!
Do a Mike Watt clip. Dude has influenced tons of bass players and bands.
I’m having the hardest time remembering what song is playing for the outro of this reel.
Pretty sure it’s Echoes
@@jetskimaestro3185I'm a big enough fan of Pink Floyd to have guessed it was Echoes the first time I heard it. The descending riff is what gave it away.
I actually remember when Roger won the best bass player category in the annual Playboy poll, (right after Animals came out). I didn’t learn until years later that was Dave’s bass playing on Pigs!
David has levelled too many allegations on Roger's playing and Roger never responded back on them as far as I know. However, on Pigs Roger himself picked the acoustic to for the studio recording and David as he said would do it more quickly. Still in live versions it was Roger who was playing since DSTOM tours when Animals songs were actually played albeit with a different name. Roger usually set the ground works and other would fill. Remember, it was Roger who picked up the intro for WYWH while Gilmour was just musing and then SOYCD. What Roger did with bass (Playing the tick tok on DSTOM) coming up with the riff of One of these days and the Let there be more light + Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun on Saucerful of Secrets. Which other Bassist these days have come up with riffs that opens the song? He may not be best bassist but his got his own signature and Money is a highlight.
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Day 14 of asking for Paul McGuigan’s bass tone of Oasis
NOTE: Don’t use Wonderwall as an example because the bassline was actually recorded by Noel Gallagher and not McGuigan. A couple great examples of his bass tone are from the songs Some Might Say and Morning Glory.
Thanks!
Gilmours bass playing is distinctively lead lines played on bass as in syd barretts solo album also listen to wots the deal from obscured by clouds a beautiful lead line played an octave lower but bass wise it is pants.
He was no Jaco but he had his own simple style that served it's purpose, much like Mason on drums. Pink Floyd was all about Waters songwriting, Gilmours guitar and Richard Wrights keyboard playing.
I love Floyd and I like Roger’s simple style, that being said if I’m playing along to one of their songs on bass I do find myself adding in extra fills and lines just to fill in the Empty Spaces (pun somewhat intended)
That’s why I like the PULSE live album so much. Guy Pratt just takes the Behs parts to a new level.