@@Yes_I_c4nYeah we need Gout to have a coach that can get him to improve his start; Lyles has struggled to improve his start over the last 6 years so idk how good Brauman and Lyles being around him would be in the long run. Especially as Lyles won’t want Gout to become faster than him although to be honest, by the time Gout’s at his peak (around the age of 24) Lyles will be an old man - 35-ish years old. Gout obviously has the raw speed necessary but it’s about refining his start - something Lyles hasn’t really managed as of now.
@@AthleticsEditz do u watch track? Compare lyles back pre 2020 when he was fresh with his 6.6 pb and to 2023-24 Where he’s a 6.43 guy being one of the fastest 60 runners of all time, and generally actually is winning his races by 60 with the slightly exception of OLY where I think kishane was 0.02 ahead. He most certainly has tremendously improved his start/acceleration you would be incredibly dumb to argue that fact
@@NarutoJK-jh7tr I said that Lyles ‘has struggled to improve his start over the last 6 years’, which is true. He ran a 6.49 0-60m split back in his 9.86 run in *2019* and has only split 6.43 as his best 0-60m split since then. So whilst he has improved his start a bit, it’s not enough to say that he’s a ‘good’ starter now. His 60m indoor PB of 6.6s pre-2020 means NOTHING when he’d already split sub-6.50 outdoors (in his 9.86, as I mentioned). To say that improving your first 60m by around 0.06 over 6 years is a massive difference is delusional. That’s why I don’t think Brauman would be the best coach for Gout, what with him not having improved Noah’s start a decent amount in the time he’s been Noah’s coach. ‘He has tremendously improved his start/acceleration’ is a MASSIVE overstatement. He’s really not improved that much, bro. I’d get it if he’d improved his first 60m by 0.06 over 1-2-3 years but 6?! Yeah, it’s safe to say Lyles isn’t ever gonna get his first 60m in under 6.40 and won’t ever be able to close in under 3.35. So he’s limited to a 9.75 at best. Gout would be best to stay away from training with Lyles long-term anyway because as I said, Lyles won’t want competition from a young talent. If you think Lyles improving his first 60m by 0.06 over *6 years* is a big achievement then you clearly don’t watch track.
As a lifelong athletics fan and amateur sprinter, I’m super excited about this kid, but I fully agree that he needs to be nurtured and allowed to improve at his own pace without any pressure until he’s in his 20s.
Fastest 200m by an AUS Man since '93; 4th fastest AUS all-time; 4th fastest Oceania all-time; AUS U20 NR; WU18 4th all-time; WU20 joint 28th all-time with Justin Gatlin! Btw, s/o Puripol Boonson who's WU18 joint #1 all-time (100m) & 3rd all-time (200m) & finished 2nd (100m) as Gout Gout finished 2nd (200m) both behind Bayanda Walaza at the recent WU20 Champs in Lima. Those 2 plus Walaza & Christian Miller if they stay healthy & keep progressing will be battling each other for yrs to come :) Love that fellow Aussie 19yr old Torrie Lewis has gone to train with Femke & Lieke under Coach Laurent Meuwly, bright days ahead for AUS who like SA had a very good WU20 Champs! Needs to be a ranking video of the current best U20 sprinters across 100-400m (M&W). Lynna Irby-Jackson is reportedly heading to Nashville to work with her former coach. Don't particularly love JuVaughan Harrison leaving Dennis Shaver for Rana Reider, wish he could go to someone like Petros Kyprianou instead like Aydens Owens-Delerme did.
Lots of coaching changes. Completely forgot Lynna moved to Tennessee to get back to training under coach Althea Thomas at Vanderbilt. I suspect JuVaughan's move to Rana may be Puma influenced (Rana is still a pro Puma coach) and also maybe the pro jump crew in LSU may not be as strong right now? I'm interesed to see how things go with Travis Geopfert moving from Arkansas to K-State. Obviously Tara Davis-Woodhall moved, but I dont think guys like Wayne Pinnock, Romaine Beckford and Jaydon Hibbertt have moved and not sure if they will. I think Rachel Glenn is staying at Arkansas to continue working with coach Johnson. Maybe JuVaugan could have moved to Travis Geopfert in K-State as well
@@TheFinalLeg It's less about the strength of the LSU Pro Jumps Crew which definitely hasn't been great for a while now and more about Reider first as a human being & not being as good a Jumps/Field Coach as Kyprianou who has a great record in that regard hence Owens-Delerme moving there!
@@AllInTheGame01 Yea that makes sense. Honestly, last year when Marcell moved down there and Andre moved back to him, I was a bit disappointed since Rana's history is pretty clear at this point. So yea agree with JuVaughn/Kyprianou. IMO Marcell should have moved to Marco Airale, Andre should move to maybe Mike Holloway (I cant think of any top men's sprint groups that are not headed by shoe sponsors and Andre + Nia wont move overseas and want to stay in Florida). That would have given Nia a good training partner in Grace Stark and Andre could train with Erriyon + Joe Fahnbulleh Also, who else trains with coach Laurent Meuwly aside from Femke and Lieke? He coached Natalia Kaczmarek previously right?
@@TheFinalLeg Wanted Marcell to go to Airale as well but IIRC he wanted to get out of the crazy bubble of Italy where him & his family couldn't go anywhere or live normal lives after Tokyo '21 which is understandable, just wish him & Andre went to someone else instead :( I like that Andre to Holloway move, more so for Nia & Grace as training partners. Haven't been blown away by Big Joe's progress over there since '22 as he hasn't run sub 20s since then & was a little troubled by Erriyon's issues this yr and to a lesser extent having not run sub 19.7s since '22 & not made any progress in the 100m since his 10.04 (-0.1) PB in '22. If it was a realistic/feasible option, Coach Gary Evans who Belgian quarter-miler Cynthia Bolingo (49.96 PB) understandably just moved to after the great work he's done with the likes of MHS, Gardiner & Tamari over the last few yrs would've been a great alternative for those guys. Coach Meuwly essentially trains the NED National Team, so would include the likes of Nadine Visser, Liemarvin Bonevacia etc., and over the yrs has coached a number of Swiss, Italian, Ukrainian & Polish athletes like Ajla Del Ponte, Lea Sprunger, Pia Skrzyszowska, Anna Kielbasinska, Viktoriya Tkachuk, Ayomide Folorunso & many more.
Yea, I've seen online that hes permanently moving to the USA now, but I haven't seen any confirmation of that at all. So makes sense he'll be back home for Nationals.
That will be a great experience training with noah, hope gout learns heaps from noah. He will be back for the national all schools in december at Brisbane. I think he will be the next usain bolt
Usain Bolt took a few years to get going in general, not even referencing his highest heights here either. So Gout Gout would be looking to have the same - anyone would & should!
There will never be another Usain Bolt. No conversation, just no. Let the youngens do their thing and have a crazy goal to work towards. But no, you ain’t breaking the legend that is Usain Bolt’s records!
That just doesn't make any sense at all. You should run for your home country, not for another one . This gout gout guy is literally ruining his future as being compared to Usain bolt, lol 🙄😆🤦🏿♂️!
Who said he is not running for his home country? He is and will continue representing Australia. I gave examples of athletes who train with Lance Brauman (Jereem, Wayde, Udodi, Chieckna) but dont represent the USA. Or Wayde going to Jamaica to train for a bit in 2016 but still representing South Africa. I can generally agree that the Bolt comparisons can slow down a bit
Lyles' reaction to Gout's moving to Florida: "Let's hope he stays healthy".
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Gout wants to learn how not to start, that's why.
@@Yes_I_c4nYeah we need Gout to have a coach that can get him to improve his start; Lyles has struggled to improve his start over the last 6 years so idk how good Brauman and Lyles being around him would be in the long run. Especially as Lyles won’t want Gout to become faster than him although to be honest, by the time Gout’s at his peak (around the age of 24) Lyles will be an old man - 35-ish years old. Gout obviously has the raw speed necessary but it’s about refining his start - something Lyles hasn’t really managed as of now.
@@AthleticsEditz do u watch track? Compare lyles back pre 2020 when he was fresh with his 6.6 pb and to 2023-24
Where he’s a 6.43 guy being one of the fastest 60 runners of all time, and generally actually is winning his races by 60 with the slightly exception of OLY where I think kishane was 0.02 ahead. He most certainly has tremendously improved his start/acceleration you would be incredibly dumb to argue that fact
@@NarutoJK-jh7tr I said that Lyles ‘has struggled to improve his start over the last 6 years’, which is true. He ran a 6.49 0-60m split back in his 9.86 run in *2019* and has only split 6.43 as his best 0-60m split since then. So whilst he has improved his start a bit, it’s not enough to say that he’s a ‘good’ starter now. His 60m indoor PB of 6.6s pre-2020 means NOTHING when he’d already split sub-6.50 outdoors (in his 9.86, as I mentioned). To say that improving your first 60m by around 0.06 over 6 years is a massive difference is delusional. That’s why I don’t think Brauman would be the best coach for Gout, what with him not having improved Noah’s start a decent amount in the time he’s been Noah’s coach. ‘He has tremendously improved his start/acceleration’ is a MASSIVE overstatement. He’s really not improved that much, bro. I’d get it if he’d improved his first 60m by 0.06 over 1-2-3 years but 6?! Yeah, it’s safe to say Lyles isn’t ever gonna get his first 60m in under 6.40 and won’t ever be able to close in under 3.35. So he’s limited to a 9.75 at best. Gout would be best to stay away from training with Lyles long-term anyway because as I said, Lyles won’t want competition from a young talent. If you think Lyles improving his first 60m by 0.06 over *6 years* is a big achievement then you clearly don’t watch track.
As a lifelong athletics fan and amateur sprinter, I’m super excited about this kid, but I fully agree that he needs to be nurtured and allowed to improve at his own pace without any pressure until he’s in his 20s.
Fastest 200m by an AUS Man since '93; 4th fastest AUS all-time; 4th fastest Oceania all-time; AUS U20 NR; WU18 4th all-time; WU20 joint 28th all-time with Justin Gatlin! Btw, s/o Puripol Boonson who's WU18 joint #1 all-time (100m) & 3rd all-time (200m) & finished 2nd (100m) as Gout Gout finished 2nd (200m) both behind Bayanda Walaza at the recent WU20 Champs in Lima. Those 2 plus Walaza & Christian Miller if they stay healthy & keep progressing will be battling each other for yrs to come :) Love that fellow Aussie 19yr old Torrie Lewis has gone to train with Femke & Lieke under Coach Laurent Meuwly, bright days ahead for AUS who like SA had a very good WU20 Champs! Needs to be a ranking video of the current best U20 sprinters across 100-400m (M&W). Lynna Irby-Jackson is reportedly heading to Nashville to work with her former coach. Don't particularly love JuVaughan Harrison leaving Dennis Shaver for Rana Reider, wish he could go to someone like Petros Kyprianou instead like Aydens Owens-Delerme did.
Lots of coaching changes. Completely forgot Lynna moved to Tennessee to get back to training under coach Althea Thomas at Vanderbilt. I suspect JuVaughan's move to Rana may be Puma influenced (Rana is still a pro Puma coach) and also maybe the pro jump crew in LSU may not be as strong right now?
I'm interesed to see how things go with Travis Geopfert moving from Arkansas to K-State. Obviously Tara Davis-Woodhall moved, but I dont think guys like Wayne Pinnock, Romaine Beckford and Jaydon Hibbertt have moved and not sure if they will. I think Rachel Glenn is staying at Arkansas to continue working with coach Johnson. Maybe JuVaugan could have moved to Travis Geopfert in K-State as well
@@TheFinalLeg It's less about the strength of the LSU Pro Jumps Crew which definitely hasn't been great for a while now and more about Reider first as a human being & not being as good a Jumps/Field Coach as Kyprianou who has a great record in that regard hence Owens-Delerme moving there!
@@AllInTheGame01 Yea that makes sense. Honestly, last year when Marcell moved down there and Andre moved back to him, I was a bit disappointed since Rana's history is pretty clear at this point. So yea agree with JuVaughn/Kyprianou. IMO Marcell should have moved to Marco Airale, Andre should move to maybe Mike Holloway (I cant think of any top men's sprint groups that are not headed by shoe sponsors and Andre + Nia wont move overseas and want to stay in Florida). That would have given Nia a good training partner in Grace Stark and Andre could train with Erriyon + Joe Fahnbulleh
Also, who else trains with coach Laurent Meuwly aside from Femke and Lieke? He coached Natalia Kaczmarek previously right?
@@TheFinalLeg Wanted Marcell to go to Airale as well but IIRC he wanted to get out of the crazy bubble of Italy where him & his family couldn't go anywhere or live normal lives after Tokyo '21 which is understandable, just wish him & Andre went to someone else instead :( I like that Andre to Holloway move, more so for Nia & Grace as training partners. Haven't been blown away by Big Joe's progress over there since '22 as he hasn't run sub 20s since then & was a little troubled by Erriyon's issues this yr and to a lesser extent having not run sub 19.7s since '22 & not made any progress in the 100m since his 10.04 (-0.1) PB in '22. If it was a realistic/feasible option, Coach Gary Evans who Belgian quarter-miler Cynthia Bolingo (49.96 PB) understandably just moved to after the great work he's done with the likes of MHS, Gardiner & Tamari over the last few yrs would've been a great alternative for those guys.
Coach Meuwly essentially trains the NED National Team, so would include the likes of Nadine Visser, Liemarvin Bonevacia etc., and over the yrs has coached a number of Swiss, Italian, Ukrainian & Polish athletes like Ajla Del Ponte, Lea Sprunger, Pia Skrzyszowska, Anna Kielbasinska, Viktoriya Tkachuk, Ayomide Folorunso & many more.
@@AllInTheGame01 Completely forgot about Gary! Though he's an Adidas pro coach he works with athletes from various sponsors which is great.
Thought you covered his status and direction well. Nothing like getting both near and far end planning in place from those who have been there before!
6:39 yes he'll be back for his Nationals in December
Yea, I've seen online that hes permanently moving to the USA now, but I haven't seen any confirmation of that at all. So makes sense he'll be back home for Nationals.
@@TheFinalLegI know someone who trained at QSAC and spoke to Gout Gout just yesterday and confirmed this. Should be interesting to see the outcome fr
@@nsxperformancekid is going to learn how to be slow out of the blocks. 😂
As if he already isn't? Noah has improved his start over the years so his will improve too@@Yes_I_c4n
@@nsxperformanceWait, they confirmed that Gout’s moving to the USA permanently?!
That will be a great experience training with noah, hope gout learns heaps from noah. He will be back for the national all schools in december at Brisbane. I think he will be the next usain bolt
Peter Norman is my hero! Aussie here
Saying he's moving to Florida gives the impression it's long term when it's really just a trip for a training camp.
Fair. But He'll be there for a while to live and train even for the few weeks. But I hear that!
Me and my coach met his manager and he is going there to also work with adidas
Good move huge young talent! 😅I hope he stays and start his pro career in Florida!
I have said it before and I will say it again. He going to be the next big thing.
Consider what a lousy start Gout has. His top speed was even more impressive
Usain Bolt took a few years to get going in general, not even referencing his highest heights here either. So Gout Gout would be looking to have the same - anyone would & should!
Exatcly, after his youth and junior performances 2002-2004, Bolt wasn't "Bolt" that we know until 2008. We gotta slow down on true Bolt comparisons
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There will never be another Usain Bolt. No conversation, just no. Let the youngens do their thing and have a crazy goal to work towards. But no, you ain’t breaking the legend that is Usain Bolt’s records!
Not anytime soon for sure!
What the hell is Gout Gout going learn in a couple of weeks???
He will have a chance to have some tougher competition than he gets here in Aus
Training camp holiday in Florida. Not moving to Florida.
That just doesn't make any sense at all. You should run for your home country, not for another one . This gout gout guy is literally ruining his future as being compared to Usain bolt, lol 🙄😆🤦🏿♂️!
Who said he is not running for his home country? He is and will continue representing Australia. I gave examples of athletes who train with Lance Brauman (Jereem, Wayde, Udodi, Chieckna) but dont represent the USA. Or Wayde going to Jamaica to train for a bit in 2016 but still representing South Africa.
I can generally agree that the Bolt comparisons can slow down a bit
@TheFinalLeg Usain Bolt never did that tho !
@@aaronmbaye6498Did what ?
@@Iamjustkiddings Usain bolt never went to another countries team to compete with there best athletes on there campus sites, lol
@@aaronmbaye6498 Because Jamaica was already a sprint powerhouse, there's no sprinters in AUS, dumb comparison