D1 Wrestler vs BJJ Brown Belt ABSOLUTE SCRAP! | Mikey England vs Austin Baker

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • Division 1 Wrestler and MMA prospect Mikey England takes on Gracie Barra brown belt Austin Baker during the Semi-Finals of the Men's Advanced No-Gi Absolute at Sub Spectrum: Des Moines (June 2019)
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  • @AnGhaeilge
    @AnGhaeilge 3 года назад +386

    Butt-scooting should be banned in submission grappling. It gives BJJ players no incentive to learn how to take someone down.

    • @alex.pendleton
      @alex.pendleton 3 года назад +73

      As a jiu jitsu fighter i agree. It has given jiu jitsu a bad image over the years. It is a ground fighting art so you should learn how to take it there.

    • @alex.pendleton
      @alex.pendleton 3 года назад +33

      @Shaun K running isn’t all about knowing how to put your shoes on, but its pretty damn important to do first. I also don’t think that anyone implied that grappling is all about takedowns. Its just something you should know.

    • @AnGhaeilge
      @AnGhaeilge 3 года назад +25

      @Shaun K If you can't take someone down, what control exactly do you have over them? I've trained both BJJ and Judo - takedowns are essential for the real world to apply your BJJ.

    • @Mishkola
      @Mishkola 3 года назад +11

      @Shaun K there is a reason why you don't see a lot of butt scooting in MMA; even though MMA doesn't directly translate to the real world, it gets a little closer than more restrictive sports.

    • @johnmcadam7493
      @johnmcadam7493 3 года назад +1

      100 % ... think Khabib and GSP

  • @The_YouTube_Critic
    @The_YouTube_Critic 3 года назад +694

    Nice to see the wrestler in the appropriate division. I've seen some D1 and MMA guys cleaning out whitebelt divisions lately.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +142

      We would never allow it and Mikey would never do that. He wants to compete against and beat the best. With a little more Jiu Jitsu experience I believe he could do really well in the ADCC ruleset.

    • @The_YouTube_Critic
      @The_YouTube_Critic 3 года назад +54

      @@subspectrumbjj I appreciate that mindset. There was a money comp that I'm not going to name. The white belt winners were MMA fighters and a D1 wrestler. I've been to past comps with Judo black belts and such competing at white belt. I just don't understand it.

    • @VoltedSoldier
      @VoltedSoldier 3 года назад +54

      @@The_RUclips_Critic it's because they are afraid, afraid of getting rag dolled by someone with their own level of skill.

    • @kevin8462
      @kevin8462 3 года назад +27

      I enjoy facing better fighters as a white belt. Our gym throws us to the wolves and forces different levels of experience for all of us. The wrestlers are savages,

    • @samuelemeryjiujitsu
      @samuelemeryjiujitsu 3 года назад +5

      Lately?

  • @kallepikku4991
    @kallepikku4991 3 года назад +1041

    Title should say:
    "190 pounds wrestler vs 240 pounds BJJ brown belt".

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +209

      Not making a statement about BJJ vs Wrestling. If anything we wanted to showcase how incredibly effective wrestling can be when you understand a little BJJ. It’s simply a title and a thumbnail that gets people to click. If I posted this video with their names or a different title, it might get 100 views in a day. With this thumbnail and title it’s gotten over 11,000 in less than a day and because of that more people than every know who these men are - compared to if I just named it “Mikey England vs Austin Baker”

    • @kallepikku4991
      @kallepikku4991 3 года назад +141

      @@subspectrumbjj I'm pretty sure the title "190 pounds wrestler vs 240 pounds BJJ brown belt" would get the same or even more views. At least there is an underdog to root for.

    • @alessandrosaltsman2202
      @alessandrosaltsman2202 3 года назад +75

      Based on how your speaking, it comes to sound that your a wrestler, who feels attacked. I know how you feel, because I felt the same. But you have to understand that this isn’t about which one is better. Both are very effective, however, wrestling tends to favor the feet, and BJJ favors the ground. It went exactly as expected. I wrestled for ten years, and I’ve done BJJ for 4 months. It proves how effective it is. Please understand that this isn’t about which one is better, it’s about a really good match between two different grappling backgrounds.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +13

      @@alessandrosaltsman2202 Exactly! ^^^

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +6

      I think I must’ve thought I was responding to a different suggestion cause this is actually a good one.

  • @Peter.Young21
    @Peter.Young21 3 года назад +548

    Impressive how evenly matched they were despite the major size difference

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +42

      Agreed. Styles make matchups and this was a perfect example of that fact.

    • @James.1_2-3
      @James.1_2-3 3 года назад +5

      Wait who was bigger!?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +36

      @@James.1_2-3 Austin had about 50 lbs on Mikey

    • @godsmack1716
      @godsmack1716 3 года назад +7

      I didnt it was that close tbh.....close un points but Austin had his back twice with 2 close chokes and two sweeps.....

    • @James.1_2-3
      @James.1_2-3 3 года назад +33

      @@subspectrumbjj holy shit. 50 pounds? Could you imagine if they weighed the same. Crazy

  • @danieloftamriel
    @danieloftamriel 3 года назад +140

    5:24 Now *THAT* is chain wrestling

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +11

      Beautiful stuff! 🙌🏼

    • @Justadudeman22
      @Justadudeman22 3 года назад +5

      Amen . This is why I want boxing and wrestling before Muay Thai and jiu jitsu

  • @cheesymac6732
    @cheesymac6732 3 года назад +412

    That was insane how he managed to escape the almost rear naked choke hold

    • @farhcawalid8224
      @farhcawalid8224 3 года назад +14

      That's because he is calm

    • @markg9749
      @markg9749 3 года назад

      @@farhcawalid8224 Yes...OSS...!!

    • @fernandofigueirinhas7110
      @fernandofigueirinhas7110 3 года назад +12

      @@farhcawalid8224 time management was perfect. But I would've tapped before he even started choking 😭

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +24

      There’s a lot that went into his ability to defend that choke. I speak on it briefly in the commentary but would love to dive a little deeper into an explanation about it.

    • @raptorfeet
      @raptorfeet 3 года назад +3

      @@subspectrumbjj would love to see that. Subbing in hopes you make that vid.

  • @alex.pendleton
    @alex.pendleton 3 года назад +130

    I enjoy seeing comments of wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners giving props to one another. Both are needed to become a great grappler!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +14

      Those are the comments we love to see. These videos are not suggesting bjj is better than wrestling or vice versa. They’re to show that all styles of grappling can be successful when used in the proper sequence. It’s those that can put it all together who will be Champions! Thanks for watching and interacting positively in the comments. It means a lot!

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 3 года назад

      @@subspectrumbjj I would say that wrestling and BJJ have different strengths.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 3 года назад

      @Arrgh Jay If those top level BJJ guys ever try to start an MMA career, they’re going to need those wrestling basics. Just like you said - absorbing what is useful in each, which was what Bruce Lee said. He was right all along.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 3 года назад +2

      What is unfortunate is that people cannot formally train in Wrestling after they finish school, like they can in BJJ, Judo, or Karate.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      @Arrgh Jay it is absolutely a problem and something even I experienced up until the last year or so. I can tell you my game improved dramatically after implementing more wrestling and leveling up the intensity of the practices that I coach to be more like the wrestling practices I had in HS.

  • @harageilucid4352
    @harageilucid4352 3 года назад +70

    Both of these guys are super impressive and this was so much fun to watch. THANK YOU!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching and interacting in the comments! We appreciate you!

  • @Roll_Vids
    @Roll_Vids 3 года назад +214

    5:24-5:44 Wrestling clinic. 20 seconds of gold!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +20

      Seriously! Can’t tell you how many times I’ve clipped that section out and posted it to Instagram. It’s a thing of beauty!

    • @jasonbennett2194
      @jasonbennett2194 3 года назад +5

      watch for the woman in the back with her mouth open in awe at the end of the clip hahahha

    • @Roll_Vids
      @Roll_Vids 3 года назад +2

      @@jasonbennett2194 Funny - I think that's what I did too. Maybe not for as long as her, though.

    • @MansaMusa-v5q
      @MansaMusa-v5q 3 года назад

      Finishing is more important...u slammed him now how do u finish?

    • @Lalo14i
      @Lalo14i Год назад

      @@MansaMusa-v5q ground and pound

  • @Dpackie
    @Dpackie 3 года назад +155

    Wrestling takedowns and control can nullify a lot of BJJ. Size differential can really nullify a lot of wrestling. There's magic in the blending of both moment to moment.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +9

      No doubt - it's a great match!

    • @GreyEagle_35
      @GreyEagle_35 2 года назад +3

      Train both BJJ and Wrestling I say, through in some techniques from Judo and Sambo and you got an unstoppable grappler

    • @fr201
      @fr201 Год назад +3

      @@GreyEagle_35 train wrestling first, as a kid in youth league. Then BJJ when you get a little older, 16+. The foundation in wrestling is far superior.

    • @yusufgta4341
      @yusufgta4341 Год назад

      SV not if you end up on your back. Wrestlers aren't good on their backs or know to protect their backs.

    • @fr201
      @fr201 Год назад +1

      @@yusufgta4341 I'm not sure what you mean. I said train both... but for kids, train Wrestling first b/c there's a built-in network of youth Wrestling leagues across the US in every public school nationwide. BJJ is still niche coast to coast. Both are great for different reasons. Wrestling for power/controls, BJJ for finishing.

  • @RikthDcruze
    @RikthDcruze 3 года назад +52

    As a wrestler, I learnt a lot from BJJ guys. So respect.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      I grew up wrestling and transitioned to BJJ after high school. Wrestling gave me a really great base to get started in BJJ. Forever grateful for everything I’ve learned about technique and life on the mats.

    • @cgiles9086
      @cgiles9086 Год назад

      Can you reccomend a RUclips channel that shows how practicioners of each style can use skills and technique from all the other grappling styles to fill the gaps in their grappling game?

    • @rodrigovela6117
      @rodrigovela6117 Год назад

      @@cgiles9086sambofusion9486

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 9 месяцев назад

      Wrestlers who have experience grappling with BJJ students who have their basics down - generally have respect for it. The people who show disrespect for BJJ - are the ones who have zero experience with it.

  • @PUNEETAM20
    @PUNEETAM20 3 года назад +78

    That recovery from the crank with full back control was insane

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +5

      For real though. His escapes in this match were crazy. Couldn’t believe he kept Austin from getting all the way to his back with hooks in

  • @davidhelman3045
    @davidhelman3045 2 года назад +19

    There was a massive weight difference between the two and anyone who has any experience in wrestling or grappling knows how hard and exhausting it is when the other guy has 30-40lbs on you

  • @SwordTune
    @SwordTune 3 года назад +97

    1:28
    "Beautiful single leg."
    White shirt: It would be a shame if people couldn't enjoy this.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +5

      It was a multi camera set up so it was hard to stay out of the way of all cameras, okay lol I’ll do better next time 😂

    • @SwordTune
      @SwordTune 3 года назад +3

      @@subspectrumbjj Haha, that's fine. But if you have multiple cameras, switching perspective would be very helpful.

    • @mariamamart8086
      @mariamamart8086 3 года назад

      Yeah that was a good Single Leg Sweep !!!!!!!
      🤙💪👌
      👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Bowamaketona
    @Bowamaketona 3 года назад +78

    As a wrestler absolute respect for the jiu-jitsu guy going takedowns with the d1 guy. That was a superb performance. Obv a blackbelt should beat a d1 wrestler with little to moderate experience in grappling. The way the jiu-jitsu guy baited him into getting out of position was art. There's so much that can be learned from this video and I'm sure the wrestler enjoyed the experience

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +9

      Exactly why this is one of my favorite matches in the archive. You really get to see a lot of great grappling between two guys with completely different backgrounds. Just a great match all around.

    • @АлександрАлексей-т1ф
      @АлександрАлексей-т1ф 3 года назад +11

      Being 50lbs also helps

    • @Bowamaketona
      @Bowamaketona 3 года назад +2

      @@АлександрАлексей-т1ф I don't care much about the weight and neither did the wrestler. The results would be very similar if the weight was the same. A d1 wrestler with not a lot of jiu-jitsu experience has little chance against a black belt. But a purple or brown belt d1 wrestler should be able to stop a black belt 6/10 times

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 3 года назад

      I wonder what goes through the mind of a wrestler when his opponent goes to the butt-scoot position?

    • @Bowamaketona
      @Bowamaketona 3 года назад

      @@perfectsplit5515 "don't extend your arms"

  • @almondfreeman6278
    @almondfreeman6278 3 года назад +33

    Mad props to the wrestler on 2:46 U gotta have a lot of mental strength and patience to pull that off!!!

  • @ws8061
    @ws8061 3 года назад +8

    Awesome commentary and great match. I know grappling can be boring for your average person but matches like this with solid commentary are so fun.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Really appreciate that man! I love doing commentary and while I still feel like I have a long way to go to become the commentator I believe I can be - it’s nice to be recognized for doing something right 🙏🏼

  • @steveniedowicz8335
    @steveniedowicz8335 3 года назад +7

    You can tell the wrestler is a great attack wrestler. Set ups and takedowns were flawless.

  • @danadane2501
    @danadane2501 3 года назад +27

    After wrestling and doing gi jiu jitsu I learned very quickly how important both are . Most importantly developing a hybrid . Learned a lot from the judo players as well . They have submissions and take downs you wont find in BJJ .

    • @evision4418
      @evision4418 3 года назад +6

      all 3 is best!

    • @danadane2501
      @danadane2501 3 года назад +2

      @@evision4418 I'd be more worried about someone is super good at one thing than okay at many .

    • @erickirschenbaum2804
      @erickirschenbaum2804 3 года назад +4

      Judo takedowns are such a great tool in the clinch their submission could maybe also surprise a pure bjj or wrestling guy. It's important to know all 3

    • @danadane2501
      @danadane2501 3 года назад +3

      @@erickirschenbaum2804 Yep , I was never an expert at any of these but I know all 3 . So it really helps when you're going up against higher belts or wrestlers that can practically hold a freightliner down .

    • @DivineAtheistWannabe
      @DivineAtheistWannabe Год назад

      Now just learn muay thai

  • @dapras
    @dapras 3 года назад +13

    Man he got heart fighting out of that backtake rear naked choke attempt..beautiful match very good both guys

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      No doubt. I broke down some of the things he did technically to escape in another comment and plan to do a video breakdown during the month of June!
      Thanks for checking out the video and dropping a comment for the algorithm! 🙌🏼 helps the channel and the athletes in the video out more than most people realize!

  • @blakerussell4639
    @blakerussell4639 3 года назад +5

    This is amazing just goes to show what happens when a wrestler dives into rolling. Division and Olympic wrestlers are a whole ass animal in themselves.

  • @michaelmckay3179
    @michaelmckay3179 2 года назад +9

    Give that wrestler much credit. If he learns some more jiu-jitsu he will be a beast

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  2 года назад

      He is. Really solid MMA fighter on the cusp of getting his opportunity in the UFC.

  • @jackwellington8275
    @jackwellington8275 3 года назад +16

    that flip around he did at the end with his legs was crazy

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Well timed and executed sweep from the bigger man - Austin Baker! Mikey got a little overzealous in that position and paid the price. Excited to see a rematch between these two at some point down the road!

  • @jon4226
    @jon4226 3 года назад +19

    5:56 is so smooth

  • @riggsmurtah2788
    @riggsmurtah2788 3 года назад +25

    Houdini with the escape act, incredible!

  • @kennethlundgren
    @kennethlundgren 3 года назад +14

    that was an awesome match -- these guys should become sparring partners for each other

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      That would be awesome. Would love to see these guys tear it up in the training room too. That’s where you get the best footage! 🎥🚀

  • @ModernBeastx1
    @ModernBeastx1 3 года назад +17

    That sweep austin went from sidecontrol on bottom to top mount in mid air.. THAT WAS INSANE!!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      Regardless of the opponent - Austin is a high level grappler. Showed it once again in our most recent even taking Submission victories in all six matches along the way to capturing our Advanced Gi and No-Gi Absolute titles 🏆🏆

    • @anonymousreviewer169
      @anonymousreviewer169 2 года назад +1

      Lachlan Giles does this in one of his free RUclips videos. If you're really interested, let me know and I'll figure the link + timestamp. And yes, it's a really nice move.

    • @ModernBeastx1
      @ModernBeastx1 2 года назад

      @@anonymousreviewer169 please do.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 9 месяцев назад

      "That sweep austin went from sidecontrol on bottom to top mount in mid air.."
      If he initiated it from the receiving end of sidemount, then it is not actually a sweep, but an escape.

  • @kickinwinghotboi883
    @kickinwinghotboi883 2 года назад +1

    I like how you can really tell which one the wrestler is just by his style and how he approaches everything

  • @kvlife4265
    @kvlife4265 3 года назад +10

    BJJ guy was bigger stronger taller and was able to just lift the wrestling guy when in dangerous position..
    good sportsmanship great competition..
    keep it up guys you both are high level

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a positive comment! Appreciate you!

  • @rabbitazteca23
    @rabbitazteca23 2 года назад +8

    I feel like modern BBJ already incorporates lots of wrestling moves and principles. It's a great combination. Takedowns + submission = beast level. Of course if you are gonna be in the MMA, aside from tackling and submitting, you are gonna need to learn other styles that utilize punches and kicks.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Год назад

      proficient jab to keep strikers away (mayb a side kick too) and work on bringing them elbows down hard while on top and you should be fine..

    • @Downey-2000
      @Downey-2000 Год назад +1

      Takedowns plus submitting is catch as catch can wrestling .

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 9 месяцев назад +1

      "I feel like modern BBJ already incorporates lots of wrestling moves and principles."
      BJJ comes from Judo, Japanese jujitsu, and Catch Wrestling. Esai Maeda was a Catch Wrestler, in addition to being a judoka. It is my understanding that later on, Carlson Gracie integrated wrestling into his version of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Additionally, Rolls Gracie took up wrestling and he probably took content from wrestling into BJJ.

  • @Tartaruga728
    @Tartaruga728 3 года назад +3

    Mikey is a stud and D1 wrestler. At that level those guys are “black belts” in base, scramble, hand fighting, escapes, pins, takedowns, grit, explosion, conditioning, mental toughness etc. they are used to no gi handles. Mikey is also an up and coming mma fighter. A smart grappler and a great guy. I’m a fan!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Thank you for the comment! Mikey is a great dude 🚀

  • @zaiah9252
    @zaiah9252 3 года назад +4

    Really good friendly match. While Austin did great and has really good submissions, I was very impressed by Mikey’s takedowns on the big buy and his defense of getting out of those chokes.

  • @Orrintl
    @Orrintl 3 года назад +5

    I've fought Austin a few x and man he is somthing special. Good all around guy.

  • @DanielCrossBoss
    @DanielCrossBoss 3 года назад +2

    I’ve wrestled for 11 years and I can tell you right now it’s mental to get where you want to be.

    • @xy5844
      @xy5844 3 года назад

      what do you mean?

    • @DanielCrossBoss
      @DanielCrossBoss 3 года назад

      @@xy5844 like how hard you practice and what your goals are affect where you end up that’s for a lot of things

    • @xy5844
      @xy5844 3 года назад

      thanks for answering i follow wrestling and i enjoy it but im old and its hard where i live to find a gym that teaches this old art

  • @mrd2392
    @mrd2392 3 года назад +11

    1:28 a beautiful leg sweep

  • @braedenwilliams6339
    @braedenwilliams6339 3 года назад +1

    Absolutely beautiful to watch, and the commentary was informative and easy to digest for all audiences 👍🏽

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      Appreciate the kind words and the positive comment, Braedan!

  • @kelshawnz5382
    @kelshawnz5382 3 года назад +11

    I used to train mma with Mikey. Guy is a monster no cap💯

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +3

      No don’t about it. They don’t call him the “Maniac” for no reason 😤

  • @dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu
    @dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu 2 года назад +2

    Wow crazy how far wrestling can take you in a different sport

  • @jonathanbarnes4597
    @jonathanbarnes4597 3 года назад +3

    This was a great match. Both opponents deserve respect.

  • @laurencedeyn3526
    @laurencedeyn3526 3 года назад +1

    The commentary on this match was exceptional.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Thank you! I really enjoy doing commentary and just this year have been able to get back to doing it. I personally feel like I still have a lot of work to do to be the level of commentator that I believe I can be but it’s nice to know I’m doing something right. Thank you for the kind words and for dropping a comment for the algorithm 🙌🏼📈🚀

  • @bbkyjohnson
    @bbkyjohnson 3 года назад +4

    It was just nice to see a video of a bjj guy that was willing to stand at all for once!! Excellent work for both of them in my opinion. The winner was just to big in my opinion.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Too big and too skilled. The way he set up that last sweep was beautiful. Driving into Mikey so he would drive back in, switches directions, and SWEEP!

    • @RCBSuperman
      @RCBSuperman 3 года назад +3

      @@subspectrumbjj he was just too big. Wth size comes strength. The wrestler could only do so much with his skills. I give all props to the wrestler, he didn't get tapped at all and he's a stud for going in there.

    • @bbkyjohnson
      @bbkyjohnson 3 года назад +1

      Can’t deny the skills. Every time he made a mistake he made him pay for it. I saw someone mentioned 65 pounds as the tipping point for an advantage in grappling in another comment which is complete bs in my opinion. If that was the case then why are most weight classes about 15 pounds except for heavyweights? I’ve always been super impressed with the body control and flexibility of high level bjj guys. Bjj is a thing of beauty at high levels. I sometimes wish they would mix in more judo and wrestling takedowns as the 3 different skill sets seem like they would compliment each other extremely well?

  • @larrycarol6693
    @larrycarol6693 3 года назад

    Nice channel. Long time wrestler too old to start Jujitsu but starting to watch it more.
    How come some matches are weight classes and some are not? Do they win the weight class and grapple for event/ open championship?

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 3 года назад +16

    I think mikey would've won if body weights had been equal. But at the same time I really like that in sub grappling people are very loose with weight divisions.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +4

      Hard to say if that is true or not, but like you said, it’s very common to see huge weight discrepancies in submission grappling - especially in this bracket. Our Absolutes draw athletes of all sizes!

    • @dfpguitar
      @dfpguitar 3 года назад +4

      @@subspectrumbjj hard to say for sure yes. But that D1 status means a lot. Because even when a wrestler or judoka lacks the arsenal or finesse of a submission specialist, simple relentless pressure of being pushed, pulled, thrown and slammed can physically or mentally break a more skilled opponent. The wrestler having come from such an environment, is likely to have better raw strength and cardio too. If you take khabib for example, most his career has involved wrecking opponents with relentless takedowns, controls, trips and throws. The submissions he finally applied have never been things his opponents never knew how to get out of, but eventually they just give up.

    • @RCBSuperman
      @RCBSuperman 3 года назад +1

      @@dfpguitar he would have won for sure if the weight was more even.

    • @allrounder242
      @allrounder242 3 года назад

      @@dfpguitar ya but without his bjj knowledge
      He would've got submitted way earlier my dude

  • @AOMartialArts
    @AOMartialArts 3 года назад +2

    Dang. That situp sweep was Week 1 white belt technique. Always cool to see the basics in competition.

  • @dreamtobeapolyglot8444
    @dreamtobeapolyglot8444 3 года назад +11

    As someone that does jiujitsu I can’t stand how so many jiujitsu people immediately drop down to their butt and then scoot around.

    • @TheAlgerietop
      @TheAlgerietop 3 года назад +2

      Yeah , like , let's pretend getting a kick to the face is a possible threat. It makes the fight look dumb

    • @bobbymccullough3210
      @bobbymccullough3210 3 года назад +5

      @@TheAlgerietop It's a sport, not a street fight.

    • @TheEuropeanTrey
      @TheEuropeanTrey 3 года назад +2

      @@TheAlgerietop Amazing logic there Algerie!! You know, the next time I have a Jiu Jitsu match I’ll start with a hook kick or a flying knee!

  • @brysonz
    @brysonz 3 года назад +2

    Great match. That escape and sweep to top at the end was magic.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Austin is back this Saturday in both our Advanced Gi and No-Gi Absolutes! We’ll be going live Saturday at 9:30 AM central time if you wanna tune in and check it out 🎥🔥 guaranteed to be an awesome event!

  • @mattwestcigarreviews
    @mattwestcigarreviews 3 года назад +18

    D1 wrestler WITH BJJ experience against Brown Belt.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +5

      Correct with like 12-18 months of BJJ Experience. The title is meant to keep it short & simple - providing enough context to interest viewers!

    • @thecasuallongsword
      @thecasuallongsword 3 года назад +1

      There's also catch wrestling. Most D1 wrestlers have some submission experience.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      @@thecasuallongsword Plus the dude has been wrestling for 20+ years and doing BJJ for 12-18 months. If he was going to identify as anything it would be “a wrestler.” The “D1” provides context about the level of wrestler that he is.

  • @DP-dd6hl
    @DP-dd6hl 3 года назад +1

    Great effort from both. They kept going strong right to the end as they were both already exhausted from a whole day of rolling.

  • @YaroTK
    @YaroTK 3 года назад +4

    Both of them are very technical, really good match

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Thank you for checking it out and interacting in the comments! 🚀

  • @hugoalju
    @hugoalju 3 года назад +2

    The balance display on both of them is amazing, I would have fallen like a log.

  • @elenchus
    @elenchus 3 года назад +14

    good performance from the wrestler in spite of a big weight difference. How much jiujitsu training has he had before this?

    • @Midnitedreary88
      @Midnitedreary88 3 года назад +4

      Probably very little we didnt try any submissions I'd love to see these divison 1 wrestlers train in submission wrestling
      The outcome would be very different

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus 3 года назад +4

      @@Midnitedreary88 but he defended submissions very smoothly as well

    • @Midnitedreary88
      @Midnitedreary88 3 года назад +2

      @@elenchus
      I agree

    • @shrimuyopa8117
      @shrimuyopa8117 3 года назад +7

      Most of these video headlines are misleading. Almost all of the matches the guys train at jiu-jitsu gyms but might have backgrounds in other martial arts.
      It is click bait.

    • @bane3991
      @bane3991 3 года назад +3

      He looks like he has had a lot of BJJ training before hand. Look at the way he's defending and look how smooth he is in these positions.

  • @rns7426
    @rns7426 Год назад

    Well played match 👏
    I love seeing that BJJ can bring together wrestlers, judoka, sambo and BJJ into formats where everyone can cross pollinate.
    I love all grappling!

  • @chesterg.791
    @chesterg.791 3 года назад +6

    I wrestled in college and placed top 5 in the nation. When I go grapple, I usually handle the bjj guys. I just don't know many submissions. Wrestling translates extremely well.

  • @gleep83
    @gleep83 3 года назад +1

    Those standing trips by the wrestler are a thing of beauty.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      He put on the clinic on the feet. And even on the ground he held his own and did a tremendous job defending the back and chokes. Especially when you see what Austin did in our most recent event - it’s truly impressive. Mikey England is no joke.

  • @kimberleyasselin8614
    @kimberleyasselin8614 3 года назад +6

    did really well against a 50lb disadvantage, next do 240lb div 1 wrestler against 190 lb bjj brown belt

    • @RCBSuperman
      @RCBSuperman 3 года назад +5

      That brown belt would get slaughtered if the weight classes were switched lol. Suplex city.

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 3 года назад

      I was wondering what the weight difference was, it clearly wasn't evenly matched in that regard. 50lbs is pretty huge.

  • @ajpope2010
    @ajpope2010 3 года назад +2

    You would literally need a gun to get one of these animals off of you lol....I love it. Mad respect for anyone getting even close to this level.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      Appreciate you dropping a comment and a positive one at that! 🚀🚀

  • @juggernautmma42
    @juggernautmma42 3 года назад +4

    That sweep at 5:58 is fire

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      He set it up perfectly too. Driving into Mikey knowing he would push back and when he did - sent him for a ride!

  • @jordanmaldonado1521
    @jordanmaldonado1521 Год назад

    Both amazing to watch. Can go either way every time. I loved watching GSP wrestle. He had it down perfect

  • @SwordTune
    @SwordTune 3 года назад +13

    At this point, I have to wonder: what is jiu-jitsu? It's not a thing anymore, it's many things. Unlike amateur wrestling, which has much stricter rulesets, BJJ (and more importantly its practitioners) are happy to co-opt other styles and then call it part of their own jiu-jitsu. Wrestling techniques are now for wrestling AND jiu-jitsu. Or judo AND jiu-jitsu. Styles don't really mean anything anymore, and really have to wonder when "x vs y" will fade away as title names because they're already almost meaningless.

    • @RedPilled-qj9mr
      @RedPilled-qj9mr 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, it does seem like styles don't mean much. It's just good grappling between two skilled athletes.

  • @barcalona55
    @barcalona55 2 года назад +1

    that dude escapes chose chokes so easily. It takes so much skill and knowledge to get out of those.

  • @Phelly2
    @Phelly2 3 года назад +8

    Not talking smack at all. I'm really not. I'm actually a BJJ player, not a wrestler.
    But watching the BJJ guy butt scooting and pulling guard in order to avoid wrestling with the wrestler, while it is a smart thing to do, it just highlights to me how the BJJ ruleset handicaps wrestlers.
    Reminds me a bit of Floyd Mayweather using boxing rules to escape every compromising position Conor McGregor put him into, which, in any other set of rules, would've led to a complete mauling.

  • @DOSEightyEight
    @DOSEightyEight 3 года назад +1

    Awesome, Do you have a video of the final after this match?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Yes! We’ll be uploading that match here shortly so stay tuned!

    • @DOSEightyEight
      @DOSEightyEight 3 года назад +1

      @@subspectrumbjj cool! Thanks for the quick response. Liked and subscribing.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      @@DOSEightyEight Of course! Thanks for checking it out and interacting in the comments! 🙏🏼🚀 It’s helps us out a ton!

  • @vutran3758
    @vutran3758 3 года назад +3

    A D1 wrestler is a black belt level grappler

  • @kumo3425
    @kumo3425 3 года назад +1

    Can someone explain me the ranking in American wrestling ? What’s D1 ? National ?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      There’s probably somebody who could explain it better, but I’ll do my best.
      Thank Division 1 is the highest level of collegiate wrestling and includes the top 75 or so college programs.
      Below that is Division 2, Division 3, NAIA, Junior College, etc.

  • @josephklostermanjr.4687
    @josephklostermanjr.4687 3 года назад +3

    What's the weight difference here?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +4

      Probably 50ish lbs. The cash prize Absolutes create some pretty crazy match-ups.

    • @josephklostermanjr.4687
      @josephklostermanjr.4687 3 года назад +5

      @@subspectrumbjj the wrestler was impressive despite the difference. Both amazing athletes for sure

    • @GallowsPole805
      @GallowsPole805 3 года назад +5

      That weight difference.... ouch

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +2

      @@GallowsPole805 That’s what you get when you enter the Cash Prize Advanced Absolute!

    • @GallowsPole805
      @GallowsPole805 3 года назад +1

      @@subspectrumbjj yeah I know... he signed up

  • @atillagamercheto9132
    @atillagamercheto9132 Год назад +1

    The knee tap was beautiful that's what wrestling is all about ❤

  • @zane2664
    @zane2664 3 года назад +6

    Nice to see Mark Kerr found the elixir of youth

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @ddave7026
      @ddave7026 3 года назад +1

      I thought the same thing
      Smashing machine jr

  • @bshadrick
    @bshadrick 3 года назад +1

    As a Muay Thai and Tang Soo Do Master, this is very new to me. I really enjoyed it! To my untrained eye, they seemed somewhat similar in technique. Thanks for posting.....Bill

  • @shoto520
    @shoto520 3 года назад +4

    I started realizing I’ve been doing 2 different Jiujitsu styles...one for sport and the other for self defense.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      Exactly. It’s possible to train and compete with two different styles for different kinds of competition or emphasis.

  • @Mulligatawney
    @Mulligatawney 2 года назад

    Is this is a sub only rule set? Didn't see any points for e.g. back control.

  • @user-zn7lz8tv8s
    @user-zn7lz8tv8s 3 года назад +3

    Imagine the match if they were the same size.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      What do you think would happen? This is the game you play when you enter the Sub Spectrum Absolutes!

  • @sumar392
    @sumar392 2 года назад

    Muscle mass and Body weight plays a major role in 1 on 1 combat. Period.

  • @bluegorilla1006
    @bluegorilla1006 3 года назад +4

    Jesus saves. Love you guys.

  • @solomondraws9698
    @solomondraws9698 Год назад +1

    This Baker guys sweeps are insane

  • @dougweaver5456
    @dougweaver5456 3 года назад +3

    I’ve seen more exciting chess matches

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +4

      Congratulations lol go watch chess.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 3 года назад

      I’ve seen more exciting choreographed movie fights. I watch actual competitions so I can see what is realistic, rather than what is exciting.

  • @yessum15
    @yessum15 3 года назад +1

    Great upload, great match. Mikey's a stud for sure. Title of the vid is fine, no need to mention weight, but you should address discrepancy in the description.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      This is our Advanced No-Gi Absolute, so almost every match has a weight discrepancy. Last event we had a match that was 170 lbs vs 330 lbs 😳

    • @yessum15
      @yessum15 3 года назад

      @@subspectrumbjj Lol u people are maniacs 👍

  • @AB-ou5qc
    @AB-ou5qc 3 года назад

    For a total noob do you suggest bjj first and add wrestling to compliment or Vice versa

  • @Bleachedhambone
    @Bleachedhambone 3 года назад +2

    Awesome match. This perfectly exemplifies the strengths of Bjj and wrestling with regard to their respective forms of control.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      We think so too! Thanks for watching and interacting in the comments 🚀 it helps out a ton!

  • @jackdunn5147
    @jackdunn5147 3 года назад +1

    Seemed to be quite a difference in size, but both showed exceptional skill.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      There was. This was our Advanced No-Gi Absolute (open weight, open rank) but agreed tremendous skill exhibited by both competitors.

  • @jesseclark3929
    @jesseclark3929 3 года назад +2

    Austin is crazily comfortable, like damn

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      He’s a silent assassin. Calm, respect, humble - but an absolute killer on the mats! His style has gotten a little more aggressive since this match two years ago but he still maintains a similar calmness throughout his matches.

    • @jesseclark3929
      @jesseclark3929 3 года назад

      @@subspectrumbjj badass style.

  • @mizu1000
    @mizu1000 3 года назад

    I don’t grapple, but liked this video - commentary was good at explaining what was going on 👍

  • @gbreezy2730
    @gbreezy2730 3 года назад +1

    Some of those sweeps by the bjj guy were smooth

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      No doubt about it. Well timed and smooth 👌🏼

  • @arambrown9116
    @arambrown9116 3 года назад

    I don't understand. Do wrestlers do submissions? What was this for?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      Mikey, a Division 1 wrestler with about 12-18 months BJJ experience, entered our Advanced No-Gi Absolute (open weight, open rank) and made it to the semi-finals where he faced off against Austin, a BJJ Brown Belt.

  • @jtms1200
    @jtms1200 3 года назад

    no points for the back take with both hooks in and stabilized? Is this a sub only tourney or something?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Similar to ADCC rules where the first half of the match is unscored and submission only and the second half of the match is scored.

  • @racer89gt
    @racer89gt 3 года назад +1

    Great match from both sides. Good work gentlemen.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Thanks for checking it out and commenting! 🙏🏼🚀

  • @iShredStreets
    @iShredStreets 3 года назад +1

    Can’t wait to get back in the gym!

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Injury or COVID related?

    • @iShredStreets
      @iShredStreets 3 года назад

      @@subspectrumbjj The Pandemic situation here in Europe. The gyms are back open but contact sports are still on hold.

  • @atilax6452
    @atilax6452 3 года назад

    Career Wrestlers will almost always top other styles. Throw submission work on top of that and you have a very dangerous opponent.
    This guy will be scary in the future.

  • @roxanna1971
    @roxanna1971 3 года назад +2

    2:36 why does he fight off the left leg instead of trying to fight the hands? Sorry if it's a stupid quest just a curious white belt.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +7

      No stupid questions man. Thank you for asking and giving me a chance to analyze the position to give my opinion about why he would have done that.
      In that position if he begins to address the choke, his hands are occupied and unable to be used for anything except defending his neck. Austin was already sliding off the back and although the choke looks deep, if Austin cannot maintain the chest to back connection, it’s very unlikely he will finish the choke.
      Austin committed to the choke instead of the seatbelt giving him less overall control. The position and movement of Mikey’s shoulders is already disrupting the chest to back connection that Austin needs to finish the choke. Because of that shoulder movement and positioning he can dedicate his efforts to fighting the hook coming over the top and to his far hip because without that hook Austin is unable to regain the chest to back connection that is required to maintain control and finish the choke.

  • @joshuabunkers1494
    @joshuabunkers1494 3 года назад

    Always interesting when BJJ competitor competes against a wrestler and the BJJ uses a lot of the moves that originated in wrestling, like the double-hooks and riding from behind.

  • @cardanai
    @cardanai 3 года назад +1

    Don't they have weight classes in these tournaments, or is this an open weight class bout?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад +1

      Our events offer over 100 divisions for athletes to register by age, weight, or skill.
      This is our Advanced No-Gi Absolute and it is the highlight spectacle of every event. Open weight, open rank, cash prize on the line. Everybody is locked into this mat waiting to see what might happen and who will walk away Champion. Produces some of the most exciting and entertaining matches we’ve ever seen at our events and everybody loves it.

    • @cardanai
      @cardanai 3 года назад +1

      @@subspectrumbjj sounds cool, thanks for the reply.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      @@cardanai of course! Thank you for checking out the video and dropping comments for the algorithm 🙌🏼 helps the channel and the athletes who compete on our events more than most people realize.

  • @JayV98
    @JayV98 Год назад

    Imagine that guy at blackbelt. He did very well against a D1 Wrestler.

  • @conorsreps5265
    @conorsreps5265 3 года назад +1

    This is what it’s all about!! Great match

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Truly a great match. Thanks for checking out the channel 🙏🏼🚀

  • @eltiggermalo
    @eltiggermalo Год назад

    That Brown Belt looked huge compared to the Wrestler. What were their weights?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  Год назад

      It was an absolute bracket so all weights combined. Wrestler was like 190. Brown Belt was 240 I believe.

  • @drummaster755
    @drummaster755 3 года назад

    I was really impressed by the wrestler . They both did a great job and showed great skills.

  • @freecheese4143
    @freecheese4143 3 года назад +1

    Man this was good entertaining match.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you checking it out and dropping a comment for the algorithm 🙌🏼 helps not only the channel but the athletes in the video out more than most people realize! 🙏🏼

  • @Burzurk1987
    @Burzurk1987 3 года назад

    Austin Baker got a taste of his own medicine when he competed against a super heavyweight. For the first time ever I saw Austin as the smaller weaker man. Baker was smashed to a pulp. This was in Scottsdale, Arizona about a year and a half ago. Baker looked like a tiny little kid going against his father.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      Okay lol why do you have some weird fetish of watching Austin lose? Literally one of the nicest, most humble, and respectful grapplers I have met during my time running events. A little weird to have such a lust for watching a pleasant human being like Austin lose. Says a lot about you.

    • @Burzurk1987
      @Burzurk1987 3 года назад

      @@subspectrumbjj You must know a different Baker. Good for you. I’m very happy for you. Baker is a bully just like you are. Always have been, always will be. It’s nice to see a bully like you and Baker smashed but guuud.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      @@Burzurk1987 you’re weird bro lol

  • @mattmgarza
    @mattmgarza 2 года назад

    I've always heard the jiu jitsu community is small, but I didn't expect to hear the name of someone I've rolled with as a previous competitor in this tournament, lol. Jesseray Childrey (sp?), prior to Covid he was occasionally at our school during the no-gi. He's an absolute beast. He was probably giving me 5% effort and crushing me.

  • @rather8948
    @rather8948 3 года назад +1

    Great match guys good work keep it up hope too see you make some money soon

  • @seagraverider
    @seagraverider 3 года назад

    Do they not have weight classes?

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      It’s the Advanced No-Gi Absolute. Open weight, open rank, enter at your own risk.

  • @HaunterMusicDJ
    @HaunterMusicDJ 3 года назад

    the wrestler had some bjj knowledge but white belt level top control, which a lot of wrestlers always seem to do, put their weight in one direction but man for a kid who is probably a white belt in bjj he really gave the brown belt a run. Goes to show that athleticism really is what makes the sport and than technique after.

    • @subspectrumbjj
      @subspectrumbjj  3 года назад

      He was in the first couple years of his MMA training so definitely had some BJJ knowledge and was actually a fresh blue belt at the time.
      But like you said, incredibly impressive how he was able to hang with a grappler the level of Austin Baker and avoid the submission. Especially if you check out Austin’s matches from our most recent event where he submitted all 6 opponents on his way to capturing out Advanced Gi & No-Gi Absolute titles 🏆🏆