It feels like these memes are the author trying to convince themselves that they are, in fact, an introvert and don't need human interaction, while at the same time desperately clinging to the only sense of community they've ever felt.
@@donghunsbeautifuleyes7692 There's a third option. Work to improve your reality as much as possible so that you don't have to escape to an illusion. Illusions can only last for so long before reality comes back to bite you anyway.
@@HomeGymEnjoyer but there are simply situations where you can't escape, I mean I absolutely get Jreg's point and know that it is good and important that he says it cause nobody does, but sometimes people are trapped in inescapable situations. And then it is better to have an illusion to fall back on than do sth to yourself
@@donghunsbeautifuleyes7692 By choosing to live in illusion, you are choosing to stagnate and not develop yourself in any way. I used to buy into this introvert crap back when I was super isolated and socially anxious. Turns out it all turned out to be bullshit when I challenged myself to step into reality and connect with people on an increasingly frequent basis. Pretty much all of the 'introvert' stuff around socializing that I thought was 'part of my personality' is gone, and good riddance. Yes, some people are in situations they can't escape but most of the time the prison only exists in their mind.
Extraverts are too busy going to bars, nightclubs, concerts, music festivals, and other places -cringy internet people- introverts assume extraverts go.
It will forever peeve me that the internet convinced people that introvert = reading books, being quirky, bordering on having social anxiety and extrovert = loud, obnoxious, arrogant.
Personally I think a lot of cringy introverts have "protagonist syndrome." They've convinced themselves that they're an irl quirky main character who is too deep and special to be appreciated by us "background characters" 😂
I feel like people are uncomfortable with the idea that there is so much variation in life that attempting to shoehorn everything into distinct categories is ultimately a futile journey into insanity.
Introverts on the internet fall into two categories: the "I'm quirky for having normal human traits" and the "I'm smarter than you for being an introvert".
@@dieantler You haven't been thru enough to even come CLOSE to understanding what it is you're trying to talk about. Come bavk when you've had more life experience, sweetie.
Sir, I must stop you for a minute, do you have your Reddit Certified Introvert Certificate of Exceptional Loneliness (RCICEL) as to make sure that you are legally allowed to gatekeep those who are not exceptionally lonely, and to kill all non-radical centrists.
Most people don't realize that the actual definition of the extroversion to introversion spectrum really only has to do with how we "recharge our batteries". If you stay at home when you're tired versus going out with friends, you're more introverted than extroverted. It has nothing to do with social abilities, how many people you like to be around, intelligence, etc.
@@Aj-py8en ok but lots of extroverts have the same routine as introverts "get home tired of school, and stays inside" the difference happens mostly on weekends, but like nowadays both gonna stay at internet all day
spending time with friends scares the everliving fuck out of me but I find it more exciting than tiring it's possible to have severe social anxiety and not be introverted
jREG’s content on introversion blew my mind when I first saw it. I identified very strongly with the “introvert” label - I thought of it as an intrinsic part of my personality. Somehow these videos got through to me and helped me understand that my introversion was really just social anxiety with a lack of learned social skills
The only thing that differentiates introverts from extroverts is what activities energize you the most. Introverts usually recharge the most from solo activities, extroverts generally from socializing. That's literally it, there's nothing about intelligence, personality, emotional capacity, anxiety, depression, etc etc that differentiates them, that shit's all common among all humans.
a surprising number of these seem to be confusing introversion and autism like, "talking about your interests" is normal, but you could interpret it as "talking about your special interests nonstop"
I get the sentiment, but some traits are more fundamental and static, and I think with those sorts of things it’s better to be aware and accepting of them instead of being at odds with yourself 24/7. Being introverted puts you at a disadvantage in many situations, but forcing ones self to be extroverted past a certain point is only going to make you miserable
@@2ez318 I think they're making opposite points. OP is saying people need to stop using a cultivated identity they're attached to to make excuses for their behavior. Replier is saying yes but sometimes you do genuinely have something that ensures you're stuck a certain way.
I think the main problems with these memes are the fact that most of them seem like they were created by people who have underlying social disorders (like autism, anxiety, antisocial personality disorder, etc.) but assume these symptoms are correlated to introversion instead. Unfortunately, that means a lot of people who look at these memes then assume this behavior is normal for introverts and never bother to get help for it. Then those people make memes about their supposed introversion and the cycle just repeats all over again.
Even with a lot of the people with those disorders, they still have a lot of agency in how they handle them. IMO a lot of people reinforce anxiety disorders with bad decisions and perspectives, I would argue that to a certain degree this stuff can create the mentally ill, especially personality disorders. People underestimate how much they control.
I agree tbh. Literally introverts are simply people whose social batteries run out very quickly, and need more time alone to recharge. That's it. They are perfectly able to socialize, they can also literally love being around people they like for a whole day (hey hi it's me), but then need a full day home with no social interactions because they ran out of "social stamina". I mean, it can happen that your batteries run out /while/ you're having fun with friends and you wanting to go home because you feel drained and tired, which can make people think you're a bit unsociable (because you get cranky), but definitely not as much as the memes imply. I feel like most of the memes are made, as you said, by people with social disorders who don't realize that it's not an introvert trait, it's a social disorder symptom. (Also thanks to the terrible narrative that introverts = misanthrope, when I finally managed to get MUCH better at my GAD - generalised anxiety disorder - I got told, and I quote, "are you sure you're an introvert? Aren't introvert supposed to hate people?")
anti social personality disorder is sociopathy, idk if it has much to do with lack of socializing. I think u mean schizoid personality disorder, but yeah, autism and social anxiety for sure seem to be some of the problems of these introvert memes
Well, that's because people confuse introversion with being a loser. Introversion is actually quite common (25%-40% of the population) but being an introvert doesn't mean you dislike being around people. It just means that social interactions are tiring. That's literally all introversion means- finding social interactions tiring. Extroverts, by contrast, find social interactions energizing. Both parties like to hang out with people, provided that they're mentally healthy. Introverts just don't have as much stamina as the extroverts.
Even as an introvert this is actually facts, i don't know why many introvert think the world is against them or that being open to people makes you dumb, those are very bad takes, one thing is having a low social battery and be more reserved and other is to not speak to a single human in months
Ask my why I'm introverted? Have me point you towards my isolationist parents who _freaked tf out_ whenever they couldn't find me, and then play _that_ forward twenty years with semi-eidetic recall. Independence Day _who??_
As a former introvert who missed out on a lot of developmental milestones during highschool, I can assure you all that there is absolutely nothing cool about being an anxiety-ridden wreck who acts like an awkward bumbling child every time the spotlight hits them. I'm also very average intellectually. People who cultivate this social anxiety as a means to validate how they're missing out in life are coping very hard. Go out and meet new people, build bridges, make connections that will help you move forward in life and find love too. You only get one chance in this life. No one is special.
This high intelligence low wisdom thing is something that really irks me. Too many online intellectuals just shit on people for being dumber(or in 99% of cases religious or with a different ideology) without even trying to understand them.
People who dont realize that their parroting the views of much smarter people in a less cordial or convincing way. In the words of steven hawking "people who brag about iq are losers"
Well once you start to get into everyone shoes and understand everybody's point of view you realise that having x opinion is all you need recognise a dumb person
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 But guys like me have that logic but for people like you. I recognise people who believe they can recognise a kind of person with only an x traits/opinions and justify to themselves strawmaning them to death and shit on them unjustly.
I think you're right. It's mostly people trying to identify with the introvert label when they have some other issue. Introversion just means being around a lot of people makes you tired. Extroversion means being around people gives you energy. That's it. No more no less Most of these are memes about social anxiety which is NOT the same thing.
@@DylanMatthewTurner That's not a definition and does not justify the phrase "just means" as if it were the/a central point, its merely an appendage of the primary definition. The prime distinction is interest in the subject vs interest in the object (acc. to Jung) "Extraversion. A mode of psychological orientation where the movement of energy is toward the outer world. (Compare introversion.)" frithluton.com/articles/extraversion/ "Extroversion and introversion are, for Carl Gustav Jung, two typical attitudes of the personality. These terms describe and distinguish two directions of energy within consciousness that attract the individual toward, on the one hand, the external world and its objects, and on the other hand, the internal world and its images. This typological distinction is to be understood as a function of the unconscious dynamics particular to each person. It is not intended to group together specific and superficial traits of individuals in a characterological way." www.encyclopedia.com/psychology/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/extroversionintroversion-analytical-psychology
@@perverse_ince That's just a more in depth version of what I said. I don't know what your point is. Extraverts get energy from the external world and introverts get it from an internal world. Unless you're trying to be pedantic about specific phrasing, that's what I said, so...
I’m starting to think that the reason social interactions don’t give people energy is because they just don’t. Some interactions are fulfilling while others are not. It isn’t an internal issue (most of the time) but an external one. In short, I imagine things like job interviews, interventions, etc would go better if there was a reward at the end like a snack or something. Alternatively, “introverted” people should be more honest about why they want to leave the conversation/ wanting to leave it and “extroverted” people shouldn’t take offense. Basically, don’t be a bitch if she says she’s not into you.
Guys, I didn't leave my house in 3 months. I actually forgot how to walk properly. Some people even thought that I died or that I moved to a different country because they didn't see me in a while. I must be an introvert, am I right? I'm sure this isn't some kind of psychological disorder, this is just introversion.
I believe I've come to an absolutely stunning conclusion to "Why do people find comfort in labeling themselves an 'introvert' and lack basic social skills?" T H E I N T E R N E T
also, the assumption that every extrovert is a party animal who'll charm your pants off is just,,,,,why. a lot of us have the social insight of a deranged squirrel, that has nothing to do with gaining energy from social activity
Ah yes, The inability to voice your opinions is such an endearing quirk People will LOVE to create and maintain relationships with people that are physically incapable of expressing the emotional context requisite to consistently enjoy each other’s company.
People who haven't developed since high school and still expect to make friends from daily exposure to eachother over months as opposed to one night after a few drinks
Sometimes I wish my therapist would tell me stuff like this. I too hate the “lol introvert quirky but actually I’m just a misanthrope” but I often do fall into the trap of “ooh look at me I’m not like those normies because I have an illness that ruins my life ooooo” and it’s not like my therapist encourages that but idk point is I really needed this video good one Jr Egg keep staying terrifyingly accurate
@@asgdhgsfhrfgfd1170 on the other hand we need to acknowledge that a therapist isn't there to fix your problems, they are therapist to help YOU fix them, they jusy facilitate and make the process smoother, I think that is what the other guy was trying to say.
@@scumparasite2014 Look, I'm sorry if you or someone near to you had a bad experience with a therapist, but you shouldn't generalize a whole category and their profession just because there are shitheads like in any other profession. There have been countless studies on how much therapy is helpful, and how much faster many people with issues (such as depression, generalized anxiety etc.) get better thanks to therapy. Also some problems require medicines because some mental health disorders are aggravated by/caused an hormone imbalance, and you literally NEED the meds to rebalance the whole thing. There are also mental health disorders that are so harsh that they literally prevent you to live a decent life, so it's very very dangerous to spin the narrative "no one can help you, you have to help yourself without therapy". It's literally like saying "oh you suffer from depression? Just go outside more". Your advices might work for people that have something very minor, but could very well kill others.
@@scumparasite2014 stop gatekeeping therapy, if people need help they can go get it, you shouldn't push your issues on your friends and if they have the money to spend on a professional why can't they?
I used to have pretty bad social anxiety, as soon as I started to get better in that regard, my friend started thinking I had "become an extrovert". There are literally tons of introverts who love socializing, guys. If you relate to those memes, you're just lack social confidence. That's it. And yes, this IS a callout.
Crazy that some people thing that being excluded from society is a good thing and this is coming from someone on the spectrum with horrible social skills .
Subjective does not have the same meaning in psychology than in our everyday life and most other scientific domain. It just means that you are more oriented towards the inner world (self) as opposed to extraverts being oriented towards the outer world (collective). But it doesn't discriminate between an objective/subjective analysis of the world.
@@Doarri To further illuminate, Jung writes in _Psychological Types_ : “Everyone whose attitude is introverted thinks, feels, and acts in a way that clearly demonstrates that the subject is the prime motivating factor and that the object is of secondary importance.”
For once, Greg made a video out of character where he was serious and real with us with no irony. I'm impressed. Unsubscribed. (Edit, wait, who's Greg)
Hey Chad I saw your speech about how introverts are trash and I just wanted to let you know I agree. Although I myself am an introvert (I know Ugh) I am on your side. "One of the good ones" as some may say. BTW I didn't notice how big your brain is till now but it's awesome.
Oh God it's the "I'm not like the other girls" all over again Also, I know it's not EXACTLY the bisexual flag in the background but still I can't unsee it help
That bisexual flag flawlessly then, since they are also the ones who put pride flags in their every profile image. Funny how I have *never* seen one of those girls with a bisexual flag ever gush about girls.
as an introvert i hate these memes that try to make The Introverts™ look like smart people for being quiet?? like, i barely talk and it's probably not always good but i never look at people who appear to be extroverted and think "hah, loser >:)" i was ready to get mad at this video until i realized these entitled memes existed also some of these look alot more like social anxiety than introversion
the virgin neurotypical intovert VS the chad schizo extrovert who hasn't spoken a word to anyone in the past 5 years because one day he woke up and the voices told them they were all feds
I'm extraverted and was hoping to make new friends before the pandemic derailed social interaction even more than it already was by the internet. I've felt trapped in a hell of isolation while people online have been telling me joy oh joy they can just stay inside playing video games instead of talking to people. I hate this. What is humanity.
Is it horrible that I don’t feel bad for you? You’re complaining about something that on the grand scale of things is irrelevant and that can be located through other means anyway. One of your family members who can’t see isn’t sick, you haven’t lost a loved one because of the pandemic, you haven’t lost your job or been evicted from your residency but you can’t meet MUH people. Like get over yourself.
@@tripledigit4835 Oh, we're playing pain olympics, huh? I don't think anyone said they had it the worst during this pandemic. I have been well aware of how tough many have had it. I've had to not focus too much on it. At the end of the day humans are social creatures though and not being able to see basically any friends is detrimental to mental health - especially as an extrovert. My mental health might be irrelevant to you obviously; you don't know me. But in the grand scheme of things for ME and many others, that pain is absolutely valid.
I love how bad the grammar is in half of these, especially when they're basically just the meme's creator trying to claim they're smarter by merit of being in an arbitrarily defined personality group.
Thank you Jreg for removing the hipocrisy that cames from the introverts. Why can't we understand that extroversion and introversion are on a spectrum? We wouldn't even be able to interact with reality if we were fully introverts. Agreed on that low wisdom shit. Wisdom is the ability to see behind what's obvious, while intelligence is the ability to use what's obvious in order to find what's not obvious. So who's more intelligent by that definition? Intelligence is the process, while wisdom is the goal. Also, introversion doesn't grant you the power of understanding things in depth necessarily. The depth that you are capable of is based on the degree of your self awareness. Also, the egoism that cames with introversion makes it so that we don't even recognize that we don't even try to see things in depth. Because our definition of depth is based only on the subjective preferences, so we don't even go in areas where things may go against our understanding. As such, we are being more subjective than objective. Because the act of introversion should allow us the capacity to understand the core nature of things. How can we reach this objective if we always specialize in wrong areas and we don't even have enough data to understand where we need to specialize in the first place? We are masters of memes, jokes, pseudo stuff, esoteric stuff, but when it cames to things that are actually legitimate we lack those abilities. Why? Because we specialize in the wrong stuff. That's why change doesn't happen. Because we are supposed to go deep into things that matter and use them to create change. But how can we do that if the only deep thing that we go into are our subjective biases which keep us from exploring more before specializing? Just saw that Jreg started to became more aggressive in his approach and even if it is in a joking manner, some introverts got offended. Why? Because we are the epitome of if you are not with me, you are against me. The problem is that this definition of you are with me, changes a lot. This all cames from the ego as it sees only the discrepancies and the differences or what sperates and divides, but not what unifies is similar, or congruent to the other. This is why introverts are the most egoistic type of people. At least extroverts are forced to interact with reality and see the congruence as well when they bout heads with it, but since we, introverts stay in our bubble, we will never see the congruence but only the divergences, since we compare our model to an innaccurate perception of what reality is. And based on this, of course that we will see only the divergences. Because our mind can't fully simulate reality in it's entirety with no flaws whatsoever. We need to test and see things for ourselves. To try to adopt alternate models. To not be stuck with just one. Since we would attain a bigger picture if we would see different aspects of reality by using different models. Not to mention that all of this superiority complex is only a copying mechanism to the vulnerabilities that introverts have and for which we employ those defensive measures.
I've been saying this for so long. I've met a billion people calling themselves introverts, but only a select few calling themselves extroverts. Shouldn't it be more like 50/50? I've just stopped using the terms completely because they feel useless.
You just made me realize that people who don't have internal monologues aren't weird souless people, just just think through spoken words and action, and what could be more human honestly. Thank you, you broke me through that weird bias I had.
Here's the thing about the finger guns guy comic... I'm an extrovert so far on one side of the spectrum that most of the time I feel drained from being alone, So I make friends on the street and in public all the time I'm loud and friendly and awkward and annoying and in the past have been called charming and "safe" HOWEVER I don't go up to people who are reading a book or clearly with earbuds in by themselves... Like, they clearly are doing this and want to be left alone because it's physically isolating and takes full concentration and undivided attention to do, which doesn't leave any room for socializing 🤷♀️🤣
@6:00 holy shit. I've seen a similar drawing style before so instead of bags under his eyes my brain interpreted it as "he's rolling his eyes" cuz y'know his arms are crossed. I can see it both ways now though.
When I was in High School we all took the Myers-Briggs test for class and it said I was INFP. In college I took it again and got ENFP, because surprise! I wasn't an introvert, I was a deeply closetted transwoman now open and able to not feel awkward in social situations from crippling dysphoria related social anxiety as a result. Happy Pride, everyone!
Actual introverts who are only defined by getting tired by socializing and not by a social disorder? If they're self-aware, decently likely. These weirdos? Not very likely. Someone like me who used to be the second and now I legitimately don't know if I'm an actual introvert or just a stunted extrovert? Eh... depends on how much sleep I've gotten tbh.
You don't get it -- the reason there aren't any Extrovert Memes is because extroverts are mindless animals who lack the inner light needed to create art. The extrovert can only consume and destroy.
Self-loathing is a subtle form of narcissism that introverts have mastered completely. We are so special with our special problems that everyone alive has.
My fiancee is an introvert and a close friend is an extrovert. They're both great nerds. Even though she's introverted, she isn't socially awkward. If anything, I know way more socially awkward people who are extroverts instead of being introverts. The only thing that makes someone introverted is if they get socially exhausted from being social. They are not inherently shy, awkward nerds. It's weird how introverts got these stereotypes attached to them. Also I don't understand how extroverts got labelled as people with no self control who love to get in your personal space. It's like simple labels that have good intentions to describe singular parts of a personality conform into these blobs that describe entire personalities.
Rambling about introvert culture is so introvert thing to do. Seriously though, really liked this format. Seeing Jrorgovani talking about something he cares about without any layers of irony is surprisingly refreshing and entertaining.
The part about being rejected and using being an introvert as an excuse to turn people down is something I really need to hear. People aren't "bad at texting" or "bad at holding a conversation" when they claim to be, they just don't wanna talk to me and need an excuse I can't disprove without looking like an asshole.
Most people are introverted or extroverted depending on how comfortable they are in some situation. This is usually a function of the environment, people, conversation and alcohol. You are not a special snowflake just because you dont like talking to strangers. It actually takes time and practice to develop social skills.
Lmao alcohol you said it, it takes very little to loosen the filters and honestly I like myself when I'm a bit drunk, which probably isn't healthy but eh, it's still me, maybe it's more me than usual.
@@galarstar052 I'm not talking about chugging cheap beer until I pass out, I'm talking ordering a drink at a bar so I feel less anxious, how strong a drink depends on how well I know the people I'm hanging out with. That being said, alcohol is a drug, so good for you really.
@@AlexanderDivineEmcee i don't see the appeal, drunk people make me uncomfortable, i wouldn't want to be drunk myself. I'd rather have all of my inhibitions intact.
depathologizing social anxiety but where it actually just makes everything worse! lets get together and convince ourselves we aren't suffering from being neurodivergent!
This shit reminds me of that "ordinary people vs creative people" comic which was circulating a while ago, which subsequently reminds me of that one edit which says "ordinary people vs creative people vs fighting polygon team"
I was an introvert for most of my life due to abuse and not understanding how to properly interact with them without being absolutely terrified of the outcome. I would freak out meeting any new person. Like actually freak out. I met a person in college who was extremely extroverted. She said hi to literally every person she passed and had no issue saying whatever she thought. She became my best friend and actually helped me overcome my introverted tendencies and social anxiety. So yeah. I'm with jreg here. If an extrovert wants to be your friend and they are someone you could enjoy being around fucking accept that shit and better yourself by taking notes. :)
it's not a matter of being introverted/extroverted, it's just a matter of finding the right group of friends or community that you're comfortable talking to. everyone wants that.
I like Sam Hyde's advice of finding a popular normal person who isn't repulsed by your presence, latching on to them, and not talking too much when you're around them. Finding other introvert/recluse friends to hang out with is a death sentence.
He's not entirely wrong, but i've done that before and it's a great way to end up being friends with a popular narcicst you don't really like and end up having a one sided relationship with where you get nothing out of it. I think that if it keeps you from only interacting with other miserable bastards it's a good stepping stone, but get some skills and ditch um.
@@Ravie1 that's a good point. Probably best to keep friends who are above, below and horizontal to you in terms of normality and popularity. A lot of introverts are prideful and so neglect the "above" part of that.
After arriving at university I realized I wasn't actually an introvert, I was an extrovert who was social scarred. Apparently, constantly worrying that I was being watched and judged by everyone every time I did anything, even something as simple and normal as getting up to ask the waiter for a to-go box, wasn't introversion, it was social anxiety. Perhaps the first hint should have been when I noticed that despite being afraid of social interactions my self-imposed loneliness still hurt like hell, almost like there was constantly a void in my chest that I couldn't fill. Moral of the story, see a psychologist, psychiatrist, or even your standard diagnostician if you think you're an introvert. Ask them "hey, is it normal for an introvert to *enter your "introvert" behavior here*?" Social anxiety meds are life changers, I can't imagine everything that would have changed for me if I had been prescribed them in highschool.
The 'I'm so tired' one I first saw in Autistic and Depressed subs, where being drained by social situations that you desparately want to enjoy is pretty fucking valid. NTs, this isn't your quirky personality trait to adopt, it's mental disorder
Aw HECK naw
lol
The future is now, old man! Extroverts will have their day in sun! Haha
Love your videos by the way! 💟
Frank James SUS?
get gamered
@@johttacusj.j.begallo1432 well, not so sure that this has not been an inspired topic lol. Remember the video they made together?
Online "introverts" unironically think the world is nerds vs jocks. And that they're the nerds
when in reality it's Gamers vs. chads
yeah and being an introvert or nerd automatically makes you einstein and nerds are always smart. Guess they havent heard of marvel fans.
@@lamasu8060 someone get an extinguisher
@@derfret1365 wrong word more like gamers and memersv s fuckbois
Also don't forget the memers
@@user-io2on9ho5s memers are just gamers who learned how to use editing software
These memes are like "I'm not like other girls"
"I'm smart - they're stupid," etc
Yes, they are, so right
That is exactly what they are. Coping mechanisms.
oh boy you better not check r/INTJ
and mostly she is the stupid
@@mertpolat8989 That reminds me, I saw once an INTJ girl's video on youtube about INTJs. Most narcissistic shit in the platform.
I’m not alone in the lunch table while the kids are laughing because I’m an introvert, it’s because I’m a Sigma Male
stop denying that you're gay man, it's not a bad thing.
@@thetbhresistance7042 yes it is
No mom I’m a smegma male I’m not lonely
@@frederickcubbins based ?
Sugma what?
I'm not like the other girls, I have several severe undiagnosed mental disorders, many of which were caused by fetal alcohol syndrome
I'm not like other girls, in fact I'm a boy.
qUiRkY
I am like other guys, I hate myself and I wish I was never born
I'm not like other girls, I'm an undiagnosed autistic
Hey sometimes therapy is expensive.
I'm just a socially inept extrovert
same
We call your kind Bad Extroverts round here
so Naruto, basically?
I’m just an extrovert
OwO me
It feels like these memes are the author trying to convince themselves that they are, in fact, an introvert and don't need human interaction, while at the same time desperately clinging to the only sense of community they've ever felt.
That hit way to close to home.
I can really see the me for a few years back on those ones
I would actually say it is better to live an illusion than a reality that makes you depressed and worse
@@donghunsbeautifuleyes7692 There's a third option. Work to improve your reality as much as possible so that you don't have to escape to an illusion. Illusions can only last for so long before reality comes back to bite you anyway.
@@HomeGymEnjoyer but there are simply situations where you can't escape, I mean I absolutely get Jreg's point and know that it is good and important that he says it cause nobody does, but sometimes people are trapped in inescapable situations. And then it is better to have an illusion to fall back on than do sth to yourself
@@donghunsbeautifuleyes7692 By choosing to live in illusion, you are choosing to stagnate and not develop yourself in any way. I used to buy into this introvert crap back when I was super isolated and socially anxious. Turns out it all turned out to be bullshit when I challenged myself to step into reality and connect with people on an increasingly frequent basis. Pretty much all of the 'introvert' stuff around socializing that I thought was 'part of my personality' is gone, and good riddance.
Yes, some people are in situations they can't escape but most of the time the prison only exists in their mind.
it really actually boils down to:
introverts = make memes
extrovert = doesn't make memes
@the man I mean, I wouldn’t say that
@the man dude pulled a Thanos/comic Wanda on us
@the man he fck u, that's funny actually😂
BULLSHIT
Extraverts are too busy going to bars, nightclubs, concerts, music festivals, and other places -cringy internet people- introverts assume extraverts go.
I'm not an introvert or an extrovert, I'm a pervert 😎.
*cackle*
Based
Oop
Goals😍
Same
Half the introvert memes are just "I'm depressed", "I have low self esteem" and of course "I'm much more intenlumigent than you".
It will forever peeve me that the internet convinced people that introvert = reading books, being quirky, bordering on having social anxiety and extrovert = loud, obnoxious, arrogant.
Personally I think a lot of cringy introverts have "protagonist syndrome." They've convinced themselves that they're an irl quirky main character who is too deep and special to be appreciated by us "background characters" 😂
For real every introvert I know in life at least trys to be more extroverted.
Jr Egg DESTROYS 'verts (as I call them) with 'acts and 'edge.
Why are you suddenly everywhere since I found your content, and how did you get me interested in flags?!?!
@@bettievw All Canadians know each other
Ayyyy jj is here too
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙 🤙 🤙
"verts" is a terrible way to name them
I feel like people associate extroverts as the popular, dumb jock character and that introverts are the real geniuses.
It's just high school cliques all over again
@@Aprapabubbly A sad sad cope. Which isn't even real
Exactly. Like it's honestly just sad
I feel like people are uncomfortable with the idea that there is so much variation in life that attempting to shoehorn everything into distinct categories is ultimately a futile journey into insanity.
honestly it can just magnify their traits. it can make the the most insufferable or the coolest people ever. introverts are more like ghosts
I just love how genuinely pissed he is about this.
Or is he?
I’m just finally glad someone shares my anger
Who isn't?
@@cronx5480 big fuckin relate
yeah honestly people with labels like these are getting pretty annoying nowadays. good job Jroogie.
Introverts on the internet fall into two categories: the "I'm quirky for having normal human traits" and the "I'm smarter than you for being an introvert".
And in my case: I’m tired but I still argue with people in RUclips comments.
Oh wait. Was I supposed to talk about my introversion? Sorry but no
“I’m socially stunted so I’m smarter than you”
-every introvert meme
Gatekeeping being an introvert is such an introvert thing to do
Only real introverts would do that
I'm glad to see the you too have been touched by his noodly appendages. RAmen.
Gatekeeping of vertness is the symptom of extrovertphobic.
@@dieantler You haven't been thru enough to even come CLOSE to understanding what it is you're trying to talk about. Come bavk when you've had more life experience, sweetie.
Sir, I must stop you for a minute, do you have your Reddit Certified Introvert Certificate of Exceptional Loneliness (RCICEL) as to make sure that you are legally allowed to gatekeep those who are not exceptionally lonely, and to kill all non-radical centrists.
I'm a Sigma male. I don't need anything but my mind, my dog, and a jar of peanut butter.
The dog's name is Ligma.
@@tomthescapegoat9707 The Sigma calls to Ligma balls
@@s-tierkeyboardwarrior-lvl4686 who is balls?
@@gnewhall4116 I don’t know who balls is but I know that they’re resting on your moms chin so tell me if that helps you figure out who balls is.
ruclips.net/video/BAm79T6qScU/видео.html
I like how jreg now straight up criticising “internet culture” instead of doing it with layers of irony.
I agree
I'm so used to him coating his criticism in 50 layers of irony that I don't know how to react to this rare display of "genuine" criticism
this is the third video that shows up when you type "introvert memes" into youtube. you're doing great things for the world
jreg is doing the lord's work.
Most people don't realize that the actual definition of the extroversion to introversion spectrum really only has to do with how we "recharge our batteries". If you stay at home when you're tired versus going out with friends, you're more introverted than extroverted. It has nothing to do with social abilities, how many people you like to be around, intelligence, etc.
It does slightly corelate with social aptitude though, only because spending more time socializing makes you better at it.
@@Aj-py8en ok but lots of extroverts have the same routine as introverts "get home tired of school, and stays inside" the difference happens mostly on weekends, but like nowadays both gonna stay at internet all day
spending time with friends scares the everliving fuck out of me but I find it more exciting than tiring
it's possible to have severe social anxiety and not be introverted
Extrovert meme: "man, I love when I'm hanging out and a party and people just always want to talk to me. Really fills me with the energy I need."
An extorted meme would just be something on kracc back or something .
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I think maybe extrovert memes are more like "when everyone is hanging out without you but you want to be included" or something
@@arkhamcycle6660 trust me, as an extrovert myself, I have literally never seen an extrovert meme in my entire life. Never.
Huhahahaha
It's all good guys we don't have to worry...if thanos snapped his fingers and everyone with an IQ
is that the greater than or less than symbol
@@slushy711 I have some bad news regarding the consequences for you of the aforementioned thanos snap
@@thefacethatstares lol
I’m willing to be martyred for the betterment of society. Bring the snap, baby
According to the last IQ test I took, it’s a coin-toss whether I die or not, lmao.
"High Inteligence low Wisdom shit"
Nice D&D reference for us nerdy introverts Jerage!
Extroverts will have no idea what this means, since DnD, a game that requires many friends to play, is only known by us nerdy introverts
Fuck D&D all my homies play Pathfinder because I refuse to run D&D for them.
I think this newer game called outside recently ripped off the concept of intelligent and wisdom.
Of course, only D&D players would understand, not anyone who has played any RPG
Aha yes, wisdom. From DnD
jREG’s content on introversion blew my mind when I first saw it. I identified very strongly with the “introvert” label - I thought of it as an intrinsic part of my personality. Somehow these videos got through to me and helped me understand that my introversion was really just social anxiety with a lack of learned social skills
Same with me in high school. That’s why you shouldn’t rely on the Internet to define yourself.
You’re an introvert, I’m an extrovert with crippling social anxiety. We are not the same.
Wow Jreg's so brave going against the introvert elite. If he's not careful we might stay inside and type mean things about him.
introlluminati
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙 🤙
@Bolshevik Breaker Yeah
@Bolshevik Breaker degenerate is a meaningless word.
@@galarstar052 as opposed to racist, homophobic, sexist and all other labels?
i kinda like how your content isn't afraid to critique the exact people who are in your audience.
Thats why we are here!
This is exactly the kind of shit that we need to hear.
That's because he's immensely self aware, probably to a fault in his personal life if my experience is anything to go off of.
Hell yeah, JrEg showed these [insert ideology here] who's boss!
i love to get annihilated like this
The only thing that differentiates introverts from extroverts is what activities energize you the most. Introverts usually recharge the most from solo activities, extroverts generally from socializing. That's literally it, there's nothing about intelligence, personality, emotional capacity, anxiety, depression, etc etc that differentiates them, that shit's all common among all humans.
a surprising number of these seem to be confusing introversion and autism
like, "talking about your interests" is normal, but you could interpret it as "talking about your special interests nonstop"
Really any label which encourages people to say "It's just the way I am." rather than addressing their shortcomings is toxic af.
Im glad im not the only one to think that way. Don't settle for things that actively make everything worse for you.
My man ended the concept of race, absolute chad! /s
I get the sentiment, but some traits are more fundamental and static, and I think with those sorts of things it’s better to be aware and accepting of them instead of being at odds with yourself 24/7. Being introverted puts you at a disadvantage in many situations, but forcing ones self to be extroverted past a certain point is only going to make you miserable
@@jackieAZ Isn't that OP's point?
@@2ez318 I think they're making opposite points. OP is saying people need to stop using a cultivated identity they're attached to to make excuses for their behavior. Replier is saying yes but sometimes you do genuinely have something that ensures you're stuck a certain way.
Being included without the option to be left alone is called kidnapping and/or held hostage.
Pretty sure it's illegal.
Nah man. It's marriage.
Also see: being a child.
Peer pressure is good
As an extrovert. I enjoyed this because you attacked another group beside me.
Haha, same!
It's refreshing, right? Haha
Dude extroverts get a lot if sh*t on reddit makes sense because they're 40 year old men in fedorahs .
I think you're safe. I don't see too many extrovert memes that have the underlying message of them being superior beings
Stop oppressing us, extrovert!
Introverts when they realize having no friends made them losers and not misunderstood geniuses
Yeah but I don’t wanna think that people are no friends are losers they’re just struggling
The entire “I’m an introvert subculture” is just the “I’m special and unique” when in reality you’re only superficially different.
I think the main problems with these memes are the fact that most of them seem like they were created by people who have underlying social disorders (like autism, anxiety, antisocial personality disorder, etc.) but assume these symptoms are correlated to introversion instead. Unfortunately, that means a lot of people who look at these memes then assume this behavior is normal for introverts and never bother to get help for it. Then those people make memes about their supposed introversion and the cycle just repeats all over again.
Even with a lot of the people with those disorders, they still have a lot of agency in how they handle them. IMO a lot of people reinforce anxiety disorders with bad decisions and perspectives, I would argue that to a certain degree this stuff can create the mentally ill, especially personality disorders. People underestimate how much they control.
I agree tbh. Literally introverts are simply people whose social batteries run out very quickly, and need more time alone to recharge. That's it. They are perfectly able to socialize, they can also literally love being around people they like for a whole day (hey hi it's me), but then need a full day home with no social interactions because they ran out of "social stamina". I mean, it can happen that your batteries run out /while/ you're having fun with friends and you wanting to go home because you feel drained and tired, which can make people think you're a bit unsociable (because you get cranky), but definitely not as much as the memes imply.
I feel like most of the memes are made, as you said, by people with social disorders who don't realize that it's not an introvert trait, it's a social disorder symptom.
(Also thanks to the terrible narrative that introverts = misanthrope, when I finally managed to get MUCH better at my GAD - generalised anxiety disorder - I got told, and I quote, "are you sure you're an introvert? Aren't introvert supposed to hate people?")
anti social personality disorder is sociopathy, idk if it has much to do with lack of socializing. I think u mean schizoid personality disorder, but yeah, autism and social anxiety for sure seem to be some of the problems of these introvert memes
Exactly. Great point Angela.
Well, that's because people confuse introversion with being a loser. Introversion is actually quite common (25%-40% of the population) but being an introvert doesn't mean you dislike being around people. It just means that social interactions are tiring. That's literally all introversion means- finding social interactions tiring. Extroverts, by contrast, find social interactions energizing. Both parties like to hang out with people, provided that they're mentally healthy. Introverts just don't have as much stamina as the extroverts.
I thought I was an introvert, but it turns out I just have ✨trauma✨
I love the introvert crusade arc. Some top tier meme critique, and it invokes the existential reflection that I did the bad memes too!
1 day ago.
@@Foozuu patreon
I always hated these vert memes. I would have posted some rants online about them myself, but I've always been too much of an introvert.
We have moved from anti-centrism to anti-introversion. Don't stop.
Even as an introvert this is actually facts, i don't know why many introvert think the world is against them or that being open to people makes you dumb, those are very bad takes, one thing is having a low social battery and be more reserved and other is to not speak to a single human in months
I legit used to think I was an introvert but then I realized I just had bad friends
Felt that
Wow you guys have friends?
@@ultronisgaming2024 no
@@John-ii3ql same.
When you become quiet as a result of repeated denouncement of your speech from your fellow peers
I used to think I was such a deep introvert, I probably was just an angry depressed antisocial child who needed serious psychological help
Felt that
Ask my why I'm introverted?
Have me point you towards my isolationist parents who _freaked tf out_ whenever they couldn't find me, and then play _that_ forward twenty years with semi-eidetic recall.
Independence Day _who??_
High int low wis is a good descriptor I'm gonna steal that one.
is that a D&D refrence?
@@enderblazejames9487 yup
@@powercore2000 okay, thanks.
Please don’t give anyone more reasons to sniff their own farts.
“I’m socially incompetent and unlikeable that must mean I’m smart!”
@@bignasty389 A person can just be low int and low wis tho, or as the uninitiated say it:
"fucking stupid"
As a former introvert who missed out on a lot of developmental milestones during highschool, I can assure you all that there is absolutely nothing cool about being an anxiety-ridden wreck who acts like an awkward bumbling child every time the spotlight hits them. I'm also very average intellectually. People who cultivate this social anxiety as a means to validate how they're missing out in life are coping very hard. Go out and meet new people, build bridges, make connections that will help you move forward in life and find love too. You only get one chance in this life. No one is special.
Shan't.
Wait, so I CAN'T label myself and introvert? Well how am I supposed to explain my crippling anxiety NOW??
say you have crippling anxiety
"I have crippling anxiety."
Is JrEg trying to start an anti-introvert circlejerk just like he did with anticentrism? Because it's working.
i choose to read our collective circlejerk as ironic applause
The anticentrism trend was ironic while this one is just genuinely hating on delusional people
@@2ez318 it wasn't as ironic as you think. Consider the 14 year old fans that made Jreg their personality
Introversion IS centrism! This is simply a continuation of the arc.
@@CODDE117 shut the fuck up
Please
Shut the fuck up
This high intelligence low wisdom thing is something that really irks me.
Too many online intellectuals just shit on people for being dumber(or in 99% of cases religious or with a different ideology) without even trying to understand them.
Its funny as fuck tho
It gets old quick
People who dont realize that their parroting the views of much smarter people in a less cordial or convincing way.
In the words of steven hawking "people who brag about iq are losers"
Well once you start to get into everyone shoes and understand everybody's point of view you realise that having x opinion is all you need recognise a dumb person
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 But guys like me have that logic but for people like you. I recognise people who believe they can recognise a kind of person with only an x traits/opinions and justify to themselves strawmaning them to death and shit on them unjustly.
I think you're right. It's mostly people trying to identify with the introvert label when they have some other issue.
Introversion just means being around a lot of people makes you tired. Extroversion means being around people gives you energy. That's it. No more no less
Most of these are memes about social anxiety which is NOT the same thing.
Thats neither the definition of Eysenck nor Jung
@@perverse_ince “Each person seems to be energized more by either the external world (extraversion) or the internal world (introversion).” - Carl Jung
@@DylanMatthewTurner
That's not a definition and does not justify the phrase "just means" as if it were the/a central point, its merely an appendage of the primary definition.
The prime distinction is interest in the subject vs interest in the object (acc. to Jung)
"Extraversion. A mode of psychological orientation where the movement of energy is toward the outer world. (Compare introversion.)"
frithluton.com/articles/extraversion/
"Extroversion and introversion are, for Carl Gustav Jung, two typical attitudes of the personality. These terms describe and distinguish two directions of energy within consciousness that attract the individual toward, on the one hand, the external world and its objects, and on the other hand, the internal world and its images. This typological distinction is to be understood as a function of the unconscious dynamics particular to each person. It is not intended to group together specific and superficial traits of individuals in a characterological way."
www.encyclopedia.com/psychology/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/extroversionintroversion-analytical-psychology
@@perverse_ince That's just a more in depth version of what I said. I don't know what your point is. Extraverts get energy from the external world and introverts get it from an internal world. Unless you're trying to be pedantic about specific phrasing, that's what I said, so...
I’m starting to think that the reason social interactions don’t give people energy is because they just don’t. Some interactions are fulfilling while others are not. It isn’t an internal issue (most of the time) but an external one. In short, I imagine things like job interviews, interventions, etc would go better if there was a reward at the end like a snack or something. Alternatively, “introverted” people should be more honest about why they want to leave the conversation/ wanting to leave it and “extroverted” people shouldn’t take offense. Basically, don’t be a bitch if she says she’s not into you.
Guys, I didn't leave my house in 3 months. I actually forgot how to walk properly. Some people even thought that I died or that I moved to a different country because they didn't see me in a while. I must be an introvert, am I right? I'm sure this isn't some kind of psychological disorder, this is just introversion.
I believe I've come to an absolutely stunning conclusion to "Why do people find comfort in labeling themselves an 'introvert' and lack basic social skills?"
T H E
I N T E R N E T
also, the assumption that every extrovert is a party animal who'll charm your pants off is just,,,,,why. a lot of us have the social insight of a deranged squirrel, that has nothing to do with gaining energy from social activity
Ah yes, The inability to voice your opinions is such an endearing quirk
People will LOVE to create and maintain relationships with people that are physically incapable of expressing the emotional context requisite to consistently enjoy each other’s company.
People who haven't developed since high school and still expect to make friends from daily exposure to eachother over months as opposed to one night after a few drinks
You're just jealous of introverts because they are objectively people
@@user-td3yi1mq7p Are they? Do they pass the Turing test? It's a conversation.
Sometimes I wish my therapist would tell me stuff like this. I too hate the “lol introvert quirky but actually I’m just a misanthrope” but I often do fall into the trap of “ooh look at me I’m not like those normies because I have an illness that ruins my life ooooo” and it’s not like my therapist encourages that but idk point is I really needed this video good one Jr Egg keep staying terrifyingly accurate
@@scumparasite2014 sometimes there is no one who cares for you, so it's not a bad option
@@scumparasite2014 bro that's like the same mindset as "you're depressed?? Don't be"
@@asgdhgsfhrfgfd1170 on the other hand we need to acknowledge that a therapist isn't there to fix your problems, they are therapist to help YOU fix them, they jusy facilitate and make the process smoother, I think that is what the other guy was trying to say.
@@scumparasite2014 Look, I'm sorry if you or someone near to you had a bad experience with a therapist, but you shouldn't generalize a whole category and their profession just because there are shitheads like in any other profession. There have been countless studies on how much therapy is helpful, and how much faster many people with issues (such as depression, generalized anxiety etc.) get better thanks to therapy. Also some problems require medicines because some mental health disorders are aggravated by/caused an hormone imbalance, and you literally NEED the meds to rebalance the whole thing. There are also mental health disorders that are so harsh that they literally prevent you to live a decent life, so it's very very dangerous to spin the narrative "no one can help you, you have to help yourself without therapy". It's literally like saying "oh you suffer from depression? Just go outside more". Your advices might work for people that have something very minor, but could very well kill others.
@@scumparasite2014 stop gatekeeping therapy, if people need help they can go get it, you shouldn't push your issues on your friends and if they have the money to spend on a professional why can't they?
The way people talk about their ‘introversion’ reminds me of the way people talk about their horoscopes, but much worse
My exact thoughts.
This shit is basically astrology, but for people who think they're "too smart" to buy into horoscopes. Same with alpha and sigma males 💀
I used to have pretty bad social anxiety, as soon as I started to get better in that regard, my friend started thinking I had "become an extrovert". There are literally tons of introverts who love socializing, guys. If you relate to those memes, you're just lack social confidence. That's it. And yes, this IS a callout.
Crazy that some people thing that being excluded from society is a good thing and this is coming from someone on the spectrum with horrible social skills .
It was all ok until he dissed me and the boys at 9:45. The sigma army is coming for you now.
The sigma trillionaire grinders are about to retaliate
A true one-man army
Gravity is a harness
Fuck you Jreg I was clearly gunning for pinned comment this week
sigma ballls
“Introverts are objective type of people”.
Carl Jung literally invented the term “introvert” to describe _subjective_ people.
but not subjective in the common meaning of the word. Jung has specific definitions
Subjective does not have the same meaning in psychology than in our everyday life and most other scientific domain. It just means that you are more oriented towards the inner world (self) as opposed to extraverts being oriented towards the outer world (collective). But it doesn't discriminate between an objective/subjective analysis of the world.
@@Doarri You just owned him with facts and logic.
@@Doarri To further illuminate, Jung writes in _Psychological Types_ : “Everyone whose attitude is introverted thinks, feels, and acts in a way that clearly demonstrates that the subject is the prime motivating factor and that the object is of secondary importance.”
@@jphanson Introducing an uncontextualized quote without defining the vocabulary it uses does not illuminate anything, I am afraid.
For once, Greg made a video out of character where he was serious and real with us with no irony.
I'm impressed.
Unsubscribed.
(Edit, wait, who's Greg)
There were like 2 seconds of irony at the very end
@@falquicao8331 Yes, but typically, he doesn't even do single layer irony
What, this was Jr Egg talking here, I don’t know why Greg is involved here?
@@MarcillaSmith he is in so many layers of irony he doesn’t even have irony anymore
Yeah I feel like this is the most honest he's ever been
Hey Chad I saw your speech about how introverts are trash and I just wanted to let you know I agree. Although I myself am an introvert (I know Ugh) I am on your side. "One of the good ones" as some may say. BTW I didn't notice how big your brain is till now but it's awesome.
Cringe
@@thisisbetterthanmyprevious6674 do you not recognize the copypasta I'm adapting.
@@jmvt3 No, I guess I’m the cringe now?
@muhmaymea *chad yes meme*
I'm enjoying less ironic, more bitter JrEg quite a lot.
Wait are you telling me introverts are just people who refuse to participate with other human beings while claiming that their special?
Are you telling me you've pegged the singular problem that every single individual in a vast swath of people have? Interesting.
@PiK this is a quote that made me laugh. I appreciate
No. People who refuse to participate with other human beings while claiming they’re special often claim to be introverts.
@@terdragontra8900 introverts =/= vast swath of people
Thats Narcissism
These fucking memes/info sheets about introverts have bothered me for a while. You didn't disappoint Jreg
gotta fetishize that atomization that's killing people
Oh God it's the "I'm not like the other girls" all over again
Also, I know it's not EXACTLY the bisexual flag in the background but still I can't unsee it help
Well now i cant unsee it to 😭
Why did you point that out, now I can't unsee it.
@Just one more thing I'm not like other girls. Because sometimes i'm also a man.
That bisexual flag flawlessly then, since they are also the ones who put pride flags in their every profile image. Funny how I have *never* seen one of those girls with a bisexual flag ever gush about girls.
as an introvert i hate these memes that try to make The Introverts™ look like smart people for being quiet??
like, i barely talk and it's probably not always good but i never look at people who appear to be extroverted and think "hah, loser >:)"
i was ready to get mad at this video until i realized these entitled memes existed
also some of these look alot more like social anxiety than introversion
the virgin neurotypical intovert VS the chad schizo extrovert who hasn't spoken a word to anyone in the past 5 years because one day he woke up and the voices told them they were all feds
I'm extraverted and was hoping to make new friends before the pandemic derailed social interaction even more than it already was by the internet.
I've felt trapped in a hell of isolation while people online have been telling me joy oh joy they can just stay inside playing video games instead of talking to people.
I hate this. What is humanity.
Yeah, this pandemic has really hurt us extroverts
@@TheMarkedGirl717 I guess we deserve it for being so stupid compared to our introvert superiors
Then this people proceed to join communities all over the Internet because we are wired for social interactions😂😂
Is it horrible that I don’t feel bad for you? You’re complaining about something that on the grand scale of things is irrelevant and that can be located through other means anyway. One of your family members who can’t see isn’t sick, you haven’t lost a loved one because of the pandemic, you haven’t lost your job or been evicted from your residency but you can’t meet MUH people. Like get over yourself.
@@tripledigit4835 Oh, we're playing pain olympics, huh? I don't think anyone said they had it the worst during this pandemic. I have been well aware of how tough many have had it. I've had to not focus too much on it.
At the end of the day humans are social creatures though and not being able to see basically any friends is detrimental to mental health - especially as an extrovert. My mental health might be irrelevant to you obviously; you don't know me. But in the grand scheme of things for ME and many others, that pain is absolutely valid.
Don't try and turn being a broken individual into an in-group
Don’t try and turn being a normal person into being a broken individual into an in-group
Sorry bud, western culture has been doing that for years, example : LGBT
I do not understand the point of forming a community when everybody in said community is just as clueless as oneself.
@@timsar4809 Especially the T part.
I love how bad the grammar is in half of these, especially when they're basically just the meme's creator trying to claim they're smarter by merit of being in an arbitrarily defined personality group.
Thank you Jreg for removing the hipocrisy that cames from the introverts. Why can't we understand that extroversion and introversion are on a spectrum? We wouldn't even be able to interact with reality if we were fully introverts. Agreed on that low wisdom shit.
Wisdom is the ability to see behind what's obvious, while intelligence is the ability to use what's obvious in order to find what's not obvious. So who's more intelligent by that definition?
Intelligence is the process, while wisdom is the goal.
Also, introversion doesn't grant you the power of understanding things in depth necessarily. The depth that you are capable of is based on the degree of your self awareness.
Also, the egoism that cames with introversion makes it so that we don't even recognize that we don't even try to see things in depth. Because our definition of depth is based only on the subjective preferences, so we don't even go in areas where things may go against our understanding. As such, we are being more subjective than objective. Because the act of introversion should allow us the capacity to understand the core nature of things. How can we reach this objective if we always specialize in wrong areas and we don't even have enough data to understand where we need to specialize in the first place?
We are masters of memes, jokes, pseudo stuff, esoteric stuff, but when it cames to things that are actually legitimate we lack those abilities. Why? Because we specialize in the wrong stuff. That's why change doesn't happen. Because we are supposed to go deep into things that matter and use them to create change. But how can we do that if the only deep thing that we go into are our subjective biases which keep us from exploring more before specializing?
Just saw that Jreg started to became more aggressive in his approach and even if it is in a joking manner, some introverts got offended. Why? Because we are the epitome of if you are not with me, you are against me.
The problem is that this definition of you are with me, changes a lot.
This all cames from the ego as it sees only the discrepancies and the differences or what sperates and divides, but not what unifies is similar, or congruent to the other. This is why introverts are the most egoistic type of people. At least extroverts are forced to interact with reality and see the congruence as well when they bout heads with it, but since we, introverts stay in our bubble, we will never see the congruence but only the divergences, since we compare our model to an innaccurate perception of what reality is. And based on this, of course that we will see only the divergences. Because our mind can't fully simulate reality in it's entirety with no flaws whatsoever. We need to test and see things for ourselves. To try to adopt alternate models. To not be stuck with just one. Since we would attain a bigger picture if we would see different aspects of reality by using different models.
Not to mention that all of this superiority complex is only a copying mechanism to the vulnerabilities that introverts have and for which we employ those defensive measures.
I've been saying this for so long. I've met a billion people calling themselves introverts, but only a select few calling themselves extroverts. Shouldn't it be more like 50/50? I've just stopped using the terms completely because they feel useless.
Greg’s not an introvert, he has the rats to keep him company
You just made me realize that people who don't have internal monologues aren't weird souless people, just just think through spoken words and action, and what could be more human honestly. Thank you, you broke me through that weird bias I had.
99% of introverts are extroverts who are bad at socializing and as a result developed social anxiety and I'm one of them
I think... same? I'm still not sure even.
nah just introverts on the internet
99% of people with "social anxiety" are self diagnosed and just don't know what dutch courage is
@@aceman0000099 I don't mean medical social anxiety. Just a general anxiety around social situations.
either that or they're extroverts with autism
Here's the thing about the finger guns guy comic...
I'm an extrovert so far on one side of the spectrum that most of the time I feel drained from being alone, So I make friends on the street and in public all the time I'm loud and friendly and awkward and annoying and in the past have been called charming and "safe" HOWEVER I don't go up to people who are reading a book or clearly with earbuds in by themselves... Like, they clearly are doing this and want to be left alone because it's physically isolating and takes full concentration and undivided attention to do, which doesn't leave any room for socializing 🤷♀️🤣
@6:00 holy shit. I've seen a similar drawing style before so instead of bags under his eyes my brain interpreted it as "he's rolling his eyes" cuz y'know his arms are crossed. I can see it both ways now though.
When I was in High School we all took the Myers-Briggs test for class and it said I was INFP.
In college I took it again and got ENFP, because surprise! I wasn't an introvert, I was a deeply closetted transwoman now open and able to not feel awkward in social situations from crippling dysphoria related social anxiety as a result.
Happy Pride, everyone!
"Staying alone in your room makes you more in tune with the structure of reality"
Descartes approves.
"introverts can be good at socialising"
"astrazeneca can cause a stroke"
but how likely is that exactly
my SIDES
For an hour a day on a good day
Most of my introvert friends are good at socializing, or they might be bad extroverts pretending to be introverts like everyone else
Actual introverts who are only defined by getting tired by socializing and not by a social disorder? If they're self-aware, decently likely.
These weirdos? Not very likely.
Someone like me who used to be the second and now I legitimately don't know if I'm an actual introvert or just a stunted extrovert? Eh... depends on how much sleep I've gotten tbh.
You don't get it -- the reason there aren't any Extrovert Memes is because extroverts are mindless animals who lack the inner light needed to create art. The extrovert can only consume and destroy.
As they should 👏👏👏
I eat, I watch, I play. And once I finish....
*I end it all*
And introverts don't consume? lmao gtfo
@@killtomorrow123 yes they only drink fresh morning dew
Self-loathing is a subtle form of narcissism that introverts have mastered completely.
We are so special with our special problems that everyone alive has.
My fiancee is an introvert and a close friend is an extrovert. They're both great nerds. Even though she's introverted, she isn't socially awkward. If anything, I know way more socially awkward people who are extroverts instead of being introverts. The only thing that makes someone introverted is if they get socially exhausted from being social. They are not inherently shy, awkward nerds. It's weird how introverts got these stereotypes attached to them. Also I don't understand how extroverts got labelled as people with no self control who love to get in your personal space. It's like simple labels that have good intentions to describe singular parts of a personality conform into these blobs that describe entire personalities.
Rambling about introvert culture is so introvert thing to do.
Seriously though, really liked this format. Seeing Jrorgovani talking about something he cares about without any layers of irony is surprisingly refreshing and entertaining.
jreg will single handedly end the decades long """""introvert""""" meme
We can only hope
I had never been aware of how much I needed this.
I really wish I could go back 4 years into the past and show myself this video.
We all do, I used to think being an introvert is cute and quirky because of those old animation story time shit
Same
The part about being rejected and using being an introvert as an excuse to turn people down is something I really need to hear. People aren't "bad at texting" or "bad at holding a conversation" when they claim to be, they just don't wanna talk to me and need an excuse I can't disprove without looking like an asshole.
I used to be one of those 'introverts' and I am so so happy to see someone come for them holy shit
Most people are introverted or extroverted depending on how comfortable they are in some situation. This is usually a function of the environment, people, conversation and alcohol.
You are not a special snowflake just because you dont like talking to strangers. It actually takes time and practice to develop social skills.
Lmao alcohol you said it, it takes very little to loosen the filters and honestly I like myself when I'm a bit drunk, which probably isn't healthy but eh, it's still me, maybe it's more me than usual.
@@Batmagoo personally drunk people make me uneasy and alcohol tastes like piss so i really don't see the appeal.
@@galarstar052 I'm not talking about chugging cheap beer until I pass out, I'm talking ordering a drink at a bar so I feel less anxious, how strong a drink depends on how well I know the people I'm hanging out with.
That being said, alcohol is a drug, so good for you really.
@@AlexanderDivineEmcee i don't see the appeal, drunk people make me uncomfortable, i wouldn't want to be drunk myself. I'd rather have all of my inhibitions intact.
depathologizing social anxiety but where it actually just makes everything worse! lets get together and convince ourselves we aren't suffering from being neurodivergent!
Nail on the head there.
The sole introvert was using their "dog" to shepherd the "sheeple" Extroverts.
🥶🥶
FINALLY SOMEONE PUT IT INTO WORDS I'VE BEEN IRRITATED BY THIS FOR SO LONG
This shit reminds me of that "ordinary people vs creative people" comic which was circulating a while ago, which subsequently reminds me of that one edit which says "ordinary people vs creative people vs fighting polygon team"
Good job funny variation of your name. You really showed that group of people who's the boss!
Careful how you speak jr egg, or the Introvert Commune will beat you to an unrecoverable pulp in the middle of the night
Jreg, who hurt you? Which annoying friend did you have that kept calling themselves introverted a bunch?
Something tells me these opinions are the result of Jreg's reflection on his own past and not a result of someone else's actions.
The internet.
Himself
@@rauladrianchavezsotelo9565 there's an infinite space of possible comments and you chose this one.
uwu
I was an introvert for most of my life due to abuse and not understanding how to properly interact with them without being absolutely terrified of the outcome. I would freak out meeting any new person. Like actually freak out. I met a person in college who was extremely extroverted. She said hi to literally every person she passed and had no issue saying whatever she thought. She became my best friend and actually helped me overcome my introverted tendencies and social anxiety. So yeah. I'm with jreg here. If an extrovert wants to be your friend and they are someone you could enjoy being around fucking accept that shit and better yourself by taking notes. :)
it's not a matter of being introverted/extroverted, it's just a matter of finding the right group of friends or community that you're comfortable talking to. everyone wants that.
Agreed
I like Sam Hyde's advice of finding a popular normal person who isn't repulsed by your presence, latching on to them, and not talking too much when you're around them. Finding other introvert/recluse friends to hang out with is a death sentence.
He's not entirely wrong, but i've done that before and it's a great way to end up being friends with a popular narcicst you don't really like and end up having a one sided relationship with where you get nothing out of it. I think that if it keeps you from only interacting with other miserable bastards it's a good stepping stone, but get some skills and ditch um.
@@Ravie1 that's a good point. Probably best to keep friends who are above, below and horizontal to you in terms of normality and popularity. A lot of introverts are prideful and so neglect the "above" part of that.
Imagine calling yourself an introvert in 2021. Just say you're a Sigma
Do you have ligma, ma sigma?
@@golucid745 what's ligma?
@@idunno5442 Steve Jobs
@@golucid745 it is 4 AM in my country, I am an alcoholic and I'm slowly losing my will to live, also who the fuck is Steve jobs
@@idunno5442 A codename for Xi Jinping
Proclaiming one's self an introvert is like a grown up version of the "I'm so quirky" teenage archetype.
Im not like other girls i dont like pink vibes
After arriving at university I realized I wasn't actually an introvert, I was an extrovert who was social scarred. Apparently, constantly worrying that I was being watched and judged by everyone every time I did anything, even something as simple and normal as getting up to ask the waiter for a to-go box, wasn't introversion, it was social anxiety. Perhaps the first hint should have been when I noticed that despite being afraid of social interactions my self-imposed loneliness still hurt like hell, almost like there was constantly a void in my chest that I couldn't fill.
Moral of the story, see a psychologist, psychiatrist, or even your standard diagnostician if you think you're an introvert. Ask them "hey, is it normal for an introvert to *enter your "introvert" behavior here*?" Social anxiety meds are life changers, I can't imagine everything that would have changed for me if I had been prescribed them in highschool.
The 'I'm so tired' one I first saw in Autistic and Depressed subs, where being drained by social situations that you desparately want to enjoy is pretty fucking valid. NTs, this isn't your quirky personality trait to adopt, it's mental disorder