On my second pair of triumph 20’s ran Chicago marathon in my first a year ago. So after hundreds of miles in both I’ve only ever thought of them as a perfect blend of comfort bounce durability and importantly stability which I’ve had no problem with at any pace. Thanks for you informative video. 👍
@yowana I recently bought a pair of 1080s, and love them. But on my left foot, I started getting a blister on the inside of my foot on my arch, right behind my big toe joint. I'm only getting them on my left foot, could it be that I'm lacing up my left foot too tight? Or are the shoes probably just not a good fit for my foot?
I'm a huge fan of both NB & Saucony. These are two of the four Boston shoe companies that get me to the Boston Marathon each year (Reebok & Topo are the other two). What sways me more towards the 1080 over the Triumph is the heel drop of the Triumph (10 mm). That's just way too high for me. The 6 mm heel drop of the 1080 is still a bit high but preferable. Otherwise, the shoes are relatively similar. Thanks for a comprehensive review.
Would love to see a comparison of the 1080v13 and the Gel-Nimbus 25! Had the 1080v10’s a couple of years ago but am currently running in the Nimbus 25’s.
hello..i want buy NB1080v13..but my feet are 10cm or 10.5cm wide and 26.5cm long..it's better to get 8.5us wide or standard 8.5us shoes.. what do you think sir
I appreciate the durometer and width measurements of the base. EDDBUD often does this and it provides useful information. Of course, it doesn't always tell the whole story because most reviewers have described the ride of the 1080v13 as super soft. I'm really wary of the 10mm drop but, fortunately, RoadTrailRun just posted a review of the Ride 17 and it looks brilliant. It seems almost like a more stable, daily trainer version of the Endorphin Speed. For those hesitating about the Triumph due to stability or the drop, that might be a good option. That PWRRUN+ foam and decent outsole coverage should give it great durability, which I have my doubts about with the 1080v13.
watched the roadtrailrun review and it looks like a solid shoe. i really hope they have another colorway at launch because that navy gray one they have in the video is not my favorite
Notice ‘Road And Trail’ have an early review of the Saucony Ride 17. They have widened the base of the shoe and expect they will do the same for the Triumph 22.
Hey would it be possible to compare to the Gel nimbus 25? I live the GN25 but sometimes feel it is a bit too soft and maybe the 1080 will give another sort of feel under foot. Thanks!
Yes definitely! Will have that video coming in the next week or so. Initial thoughts are that the 1080 is a bit firmer/less squishy than the Nimbus in a good way
If the Tempus and the Triumph 21 were the same price, which would would you go for for mainly walking but with some light jogging as well? I am a mild pronator.
would you say that endorphin shift 3s would be a good daily trainer compared to NB v13 since the shift 3s are on the bit firmer side and also on a discounted price or would it be better to suck it up and spend the extra $50 bucks?
hat daily trainer are you currently running in/enjoying? It really depends here if you prefer a softer or firmer shoe since the rides are so different. The Shift 3 is much firmer so if you like that then I would def go Shift, otherwise if you prefer softer/more relaxed feel then the 1080
the softer and bouncier cushion of the triumph will likely feel better for you over longer distances. i took my triumphs for many two hour long runs (16+ miles) but didn't love taking the shift for anything more than 10 miles
If stability is an issue the Saucony Tempus is similar to the Triumph and a better comparison to the 1080. Not as much cushion as the 1080, though still very comfortable, and more versatile.
Definitely the New Balance 1080. It has a wider base that feels more planted and comfortable for walking. The Triumph is a bit narrow and can feel wobbly when walking
I love the Saucony Triumph 20 for running, but like you said, hate it for walking. Too unstable. 1080 v13 must be much better for that, standing all day long, etc.
I decided not to buy the 21 since it's the same midsole and outsole as the 20 - the only difference is a slight change to the upper. I did talk about the slight differences between the 20 and 21 in the fit section of this video (21 fixed some of the heel lockdown issues). The ride of the 20 and 21 are nearly the same tho
@@supwellHello, you should definitely try the new version Triumph 21 it does have a softer version of the PWRRUN+ almost feels like the PWRRUN BP. I have my wife and kids press on the midsole and they both agree the 21 is softer it was a blind test.
On my second pair of triumph 20’s ran Chicago marathon in my first a year ago. So after hundreds of miles in both I’ve only ever thought of them as a perfect blend of comfort bounce durability and importantly stability which I’ve had no problem with at any pace. Thanks for you informative video. 👍
@yowana I recently bought a pair of 1080s, and love them. But on my left foot, I started getting a blister on the inside of my foot on my arch, right behind my big toe joint. I'm only getting them on my left foot, could it be that I'm lacing up my left foot too tight? Or are the shoes probably just not a good fit for my foot?
I'm a huge fan of both NB & Saucony. These are two of the four Boston shoe companies that get me to the Boston Marathon each year (Reebok & Topo are the other two). What sways me more towards the 1080 over the Triumph is the heel drop of the Triumph (10 mm). That's just way too high for me. The 6 mm heel drop of the 1080 is still a bit high but preferable. Otherwise, the shoes are relatively similar. Thanks for a comprehensive review.
Would love to see a comparison of the 1080v13 and the Gel-Nimbus 25!
Had the 1080v10’s a couple of years ago but am currently running in the Nimbus 25’s.
awesome i'll do that one next
@supwell could you touch on how they compare for walking also? That was really handy, looking for shoes work
1080v10 was hard as a brick.
What about the stability of a Triumph wide fit? That's what I'm about to order.
hello..i want buy NB1080v13..but my feet are 10cm or 10.5cm wide and 26.5cm long..it's better to get 8.5us wide or standard 8.5us shoes.. what do you think sir
I appreciate the durometer and width measurements of the base. EDDBUD often does this and it provides useful information. Of course, it doesn't always tell the whole story because most reviewers have described the ride of the 1080v13 as super soft.
I'm really wary of the 10mm drop but, fortunately, RoadTrailRun just posted a review of the Ride 17 and it looks brilliant. It seems almost like a more stable, daily trainer version of the Endorphin Speed. For those hesitating about the Triumph due to stability or the drop, that might be a good option. That PWRRUN+ foam and decent outsole coverage should give it great durability, which I have my doubts about with the 1080v13.
watched the roadtrailrun review and it looks like a solid shoe. i really hope they have another colorway at launch because that navy gray one they have in the video is not my favorite
@@supwellAgreed. Hopefully, they will have some colors that don't look like Dad shoes.
Notice ‘Road And Trail’ have an early review of the Saucony Ride 17. They have widened the base of the shoe and expect they will do the same for the Triumph 22.
nice - that would be great for stability
They destroyed the Triumph w/ the 22.
Hey would it be possible to compare to the Gel nimbus 25? I live the GN25 but sometimes feel it is a bit too soft and maybe the 1080 will give another sort of feel under foot. Thanks!
Yes definitely! Will have that video coming in the next week or so. Initial thoughts are that the 1080 is a bit firmer/less squishy than the Nimbus in a good way
If the Tempus and the Triumph 21 were the same price, which would would you go for for mainly walking but with some light jogging as well? I am a mild pronator.
Definitely Tempus - triumph is really unstable
@@supwell Thanks! Just curious, have you tried the Adidas Ultraboost Light? Any thoughts on it and the ultraboost line in general?
would you say that endorphin shift 3s would be a good daily trainer compared to NB v13 since the shift 3s are on the bit firmer side and also on a discounted price or would it be better to suck it up and spend the extra $50 bucks?
hat daily trainer are you currently running in/enjoying? It really depends here if you prefer a softer or firmer shoe since the rides are so different. The Shift 3 is much firmer so if you like that then I would def go Shift, otherwise if you prefer softer/more relaxed feel then the 1080
What do you feel is a better marathon shoe, Triumph or Shift?
the softer and bouncier cushion of the triumph will likely feel better for you over longer distances. i took my triumphs for many two hour long runs (16+ miles) but didn't love taking the shift for anything more than 10 miles
If stability is an issue the Saucony Tempus is similar to the Triumph and a better comparison to the 1080. Not as much cushion as the 1080, though still very comfortable, and more versatile.
Which one is better for walking and standing all day long?
Definitely the New Balance 1080. It has a wider base that feels more planted and comfortable for walking. The Triumph is a bit narrow and can feel wobbly when walking
@@supwell thanks for that. I already have the triumph and will be getting the 1080 too
WHICH Nimbus did you wear in the store? v24? v25?
I have the nimbus 25 and put nearly 300 miles on it - i didn't try the 24
I love the Saucony Triumph 20 for running, but like you said, hate it for walking. Too unstable. 1080 v13 must be much better for that, standing all day long, etc.
Just picked up the 1080v13. they are amazing for heavier runners like myself.
More V3 has a soft tread that doesn't last. Triumph 20 is durable. I completely quick using my Clifton 8. DONE w/ Hoka.
Great video
thank you!
I am a mild pronator, and even so I didn’t find the Triumph unstable.
U should have compared the triumph 21 ( latest ) with the 1080v13....
I decided not to buy the 21 since it's the same midsole and outsole as the 20 - the only difference is a slight change to the upper. I did talk about the slight differences between the 20 and 21 in the fit section of this video (21 fixed some of the heel lockdown issues). The ride of the 20 and 21 are nearly the same tho
@@supwellHello, you should definitely try the new version Triumph 21 it does have a softer version of the PWRRUN+ almost feels like the PWRRUN BP.
I have my wife and kids press on the midsole and they both agree the 21 is softer it was a blind test.
Triumph shoulda stayed w/ 8mm drop. Kinda unstable w/ 10,
Great review!
thank you so much!
Triumph is very mild unstable. NOTHING is as stable as the More v3. 1080v13 is REALLLLY calling me. But I ain't got no green. :^(
That doesn't look like a triumph 21
Skechers started these silly pods on the bottom.