Rolling Stone is doomed to fall out of relevance. It can’t keep talking about classic rock forever, since that gets old, but anytime it tries to update itself on modern music, it a) isn’t as good at it as other newer publications and b) alienates its older users who scoff at new styles of music. It’s lose lose
@@naomilikayi5927 speaking more earlier on, it mattered to some hip hop artists for the same reason it mattered to some rock artists: it was an influential publication, it’s advertising, it helped sell records, there was at least some clout in it, and any little bit of all that doesn’t hurt. Not that there’s no other reasons, but the material reasons are what matter most, obviously. So why still care, given the magazine isn’t as relevant? I’d say it’s because of industry ties that still exist, that’d be my guess.. Just because it’s not as popular amongst the youths of today (or even my (millennial) generation), doesn’t mean those connections aren’t there. There’s still influence when there’s power and money in the mix, one way or another.
This is a certified Certified Lover Boy moment. In all seriousness, Vince Staples was my favorite of the year. It should’ve at least landed a spot somewhere on here.
Crazy how Grammy and Rolling Stone recognition is supposed to be an achievement and yet have the worst takes in whats good in music. You can't unironically call CLB top 10 hip hop albums. You could find better shit on soundcloud Edit: Artists that didnt make the list: Slowthai, Peggy, Genesis Owusu, Nas, Injury Reserve, Westside Gunn, Baby Keem, Vince Staples, Brockhampton. But, we got CLB, an album from 2020, 2 compilations, and a bunch of albums that have 2 bangers and filler.
@ONTHEFLOW it aint even about that it's about showcasing artists. The Grammys are practically Michelin stars and theyre going to the McDonalds of music.
@ONTHEFLOW exactly. Instead of showcasing artists who make high quality albums they showcase what's popular and an already established name. There are exceptions like Alfredo but thats my whole argument. There isn't a Michelin star type system for music; the best we got is the grammys. Rolling Stone also has huge weight. For some reason, objectiveness is lost and apparently comes down to "auto pilot" and completely discrediting an album but giving it a spot because of the artist's name. It's incredibly frustrating to have a year of music with numerous fantastic releases and somehow still have commercial artists reign these lists/nominations.
@242turbo Not including her is even more disrespectful bruh. To be put as the 18th best hh album of the year is still a huge compliment u guys who are complaining are overreacting so hard
@@rashotcake6945 Honestly it's pretty disappointing to see this comment get so many likes. I know you likely mean well, but as a person with a disability, disabled people do, in fact, have sex and can sexually please their partners. This is a massive stereotype that is partially derived from the infantilization of disabled people- and this infantilization is often used to excuse taking the rights away from disabled people. Plus it simply isn't true that disabled people can't please women. I've known other women who have really enjoyed dating people with disabilities. For instance, one woman I know dated a guy with quadriplegia- and their sex life revolved around her mainly sitting on his face- if anything their sex life was more focused on her pleasure than it usually is with able-bodied men; and she preferred it that way. Once again, while I think you mean well, please do not speak for a community that you know nothing about. Especially when you aren't educated enough to be aware of the ableism that you yourself hold. Plus inserting (incorrect) complaints on joke comments really doesn't help disabled people- if you want to help, you should use that time and energy to fight against the abnormally high rates of SA that disabled people experience, or on changing the laws on conservatorships. Thanks
WLR is really hard to rate because everyone’s going to have their own skips, but you can also find 4-5 incredible tracks and those tracks may be different person to person. A borderline unenjoyable first listen for some but it can grow on you hard.
My skips on wlr are neon and place because they're leaks that I ran into the ground waiting for wlr and the bore me compared to the rest of the tracklist, I also skip stop breathing sometimes because the bass in that beat can be a bit annoying but other than that I have enjoyed every song on wlr
Yeah, it was definitely an album that everyone ignored that was better than most albums that got released. Also this list is missing Melodic Blue, LP!, By The Time I Get To Phoenix, and Roadrunner, which are all easily better than The young thug, Drake, and Polo G albums, and Montero and Planet Her are pop albums.
@@IncredibleIceCastle JPEG a grower - instrumentals are weird as hell, and constant stylistic jumps between the tracks make getting into his albums quite uncomfortable, so it takes time to click with his style.
@ONTHEFLOW Isn't that how you make a living as an artist? If you make music no one likes and don't cater to your fans who's gonna stream your album and go to your shows? Name an artist that doesn't pander?
after his wotw review, i can accept the opinions he gave in this, even if i don't agree. he accepts it's just not for him. fantano still wrong for that wotw review though
@@hutch8668 I'm not a J cole fan, and I don't know I can say he is "the most" overrated artist in a world where Drake can put "meh" records and still be hit, however The Off Season is a good album and both things can be true.
That man, Simon Vozick-Levinson, really said "[Drake] also remakes Right Said Fred's 'I'm Too Sexy' as a Lonely Island-worthy comedy rap hit, just to show he can." Thats a stretch, man.
WLR at #1 as it should be. This list has some weird rankings (Drake is way too high) but WLR at the top spot is a huge W. SIMBI and Donda definitely need to be higher.
I guarantee you whoever made this list are the only people on Earth that believe The Off Season < Donda < Punk < Certified Lover Boy < Whole Lotta Red in that specific order.
@@FrancescaS. yeah ik, I just remember when the reviews for donda came out and press was tearing it apart because of the manson and dababy stuff plus his political past. but you right, fans are loyal ;)
@@burritogamer3984 yeaaaaaah… lmao well they do make good cash n hits from Kanye’s antics don’t they. Like Anthony said they did place Donda p low to get it out of the way, but still… I agree I’m happy n fine as long as he even gets credited for his work. I still think he worked his ass of as of 2021.
@@FrancescaS. yeah for sure, the whole donda era was epic, like making it a spectacle in that way was awesome and it added to the album experience, bc you can have those memories of the stadium events/visuals to accompany the tracks. the man's workin on more music recently too, but lp 11 is probably far away lol. It's true, they do get the clicks from making pieces about ye, it's a sorta relationship where even the bad press feeds back and forth in that they definitely use his name, and that also trends and brings up his antics on social media (like the recent business with his divorce with kim). just how it is i guess
@@burritogamer3984 aaaaaah pls ok I’ll stfu now but I CANT wait to see what he works on next…. Ppl said that Donda was like the end of an era in Kanye’s life (I mean it’s quite clear), so I’m at the edge of my seat to see what comes next. Can’t wait for new sounds and samples and collabs yup yup yup
Most reviewers who work at these kinds of places are just desperate nerds trying to seem as esoteric as possible by overrating a bunch of garbage with hype behind it or something that seems really raw and street like maxo or thugger while completely ignoring the actual music. I don’t think rolling stone has discovered something new in like 30 years
a lot of the picks here are shit but i love that they respected boldy and mach. for some reason these sites love everything made by alc and more generally low key abstract street rap
“You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll listen Over and over again” NONE OF US ARE STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. Fucking lonely island has better song structure and is funnier then that song and they didn’t make great music either, but this is so obviously people brainwashed by the music video into thinking the song is a joke when he put it out as the serious album hit
Out of all those listed on here, SIMBI deserves to be #1 BY FAR, And if it was up to me, Id have LP! at 1, SIMBI at 2, TYRON 3, CMIYGL 4 & The Color Blu(e) at 5.
@@lucdw3286 i think they both have their amazing influence and great moments but Peggy and Carti are in different lanes. Both great albums but i personally love WLR
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i cant believe they called their 10th best album "an enjoyable cruise on autopilot"
Wild
Whoever wrote this was trolling so fucking hard
goddamnit jeff
Rolling Stone is doomed to fall out of relevance. It can’t keep talking about classic rock forever, since that gets old, but anytime it tries to update itself on modern music, it a) isn’t as good at it as other newer publications and b) alienates its older users who scoff at new styles of music. It’s lose lose
My thing is when has Rolling Stone ever been credible for hip hop-rap music and why are we fans/artists still trying to seek approval from them?
It already is out of relevance, they're just a bunch of clowns.
@@naomilikayi5927 speaking more earlier on, it mattered to some hip hop artists for the same reason it mattered to some rock artists: it was an influential publication, it’s advertising, it helped sell records, there was at least some clout in it, and any little bit of all that doesn’t hurt. Not that there’s no other reasons, but the material reasons are what matter most, obviously.
So why still care, given the magazine isn’t as relevant? I’d say it’s because of industry ties that still exist, that’d be my guess.. Just because it’s not as popular amongst the youths of today (or even my (millennial) generation), doesn’t mean those connections aren’t there. There’s still influence when there’s power and money in the mix, one way or another.
they disrespect classic rock all the time lmao
They completely shitted on Donda and said uhhhh #13 ????????
Donda ain’t that good
Mainstrean media gotta hate on Ye, fam. Otherwise they gets in troubles
@@nathandp8039 it’s booty besides a couple songs
@@ryanandring2688 wrong Donda slaps. It isn't perfect, but it's mostly good
@@spiderjerusalem8691 they still put Ye on the top 15 tho
This is a certified Certified Lover Boy moment.
In all seriousness, Vince Staples was my favorite of the year. It should’ve at least landed a spot somewhere on here.
CMIYGL and Vince Staples
Certified Boy Lover
@@keepmovingforward1722 how mature
@@keepmovingforward1722 yes
SIMBI at 18 under Drake, Young Thug, and Carti is the biggest cap I’ve seen on a music list.
No way, oh jesus
Carti>
When the vamps outside lil bitch you better be ready🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️
Carti>>>>>
Carti
Crazy how Grammy and Rolling Stone recognition is supposed to be an achievement and yet have the worst takes in whats good in music. You can't unironically call CLB top 10 hip hop albums. You could find better shit on soundcloud
Edit: Artists that didnt make the list: Slowthai, Peggy, Genesis Owusu, Nas, Injury Reserve, Westside Gunn, Baby Keem, Vince Staples, Brockhampton. But, we got CLB, an album from 2020, 2 compilations, and a bunch of albums that have 2 bangers and filler.
@ONTHEFLOW it aint even about that it's about showcasing artists. The Grammys are practically Michelin stars and theyre going to the McDonalds of music.
@ONTHEFLOW exactly. Instead of showcasing artists who make high quality albums they showcase what's popular and an already established name. There are exceptions like Alfredo but thats my whole argument. There isn't a Michelin star type system for music; the best we got is the grammys. Rolling Stone also has huge weight. For some reason, objectiveness is lost and apparently comes down to "auto pilot" and completely discrediting an album but giving it a spot because of the artist's name. It's incredibly frustrating to have a year of music with numerous fantastic releases and somehow still have commercial artists reign these lists/nominations.
I saw SIMBI live a few weeks ago and it was ridiculously good. A huge win for UK Hip Hop. This list is a joke
she raps good in person? not lip sync?
@@porkfriedrice1530 no lip sync at all. Album-perfect delivery
Rolling Stone seems to be full of vamps🧛🧛
Rolling Stones, among others, need to learn to respect Little Simz!
@242turbo Not including her is even more disrespectful bruh. To be put as the 18th best hh album of the year is still a huge compliment u guys who are complaining are overreacting so hard
They really put SIMBI at 18 and CLB at 10.
Was their a gas leak at Rolling Stone offices on September 3rd? This is some heinous shit.
This entire list was a rollercoaster. I literally lost it when Whole Lotta Red came into view at number 1.
wlr is the best album of the decade.
@@jacklonsberry1316 that's fair
@@kedsarama glad you have an open mind!
@@jacklonsberry1316 broaden your musical horizons
@@arthurdunn07 you literally don’t even know what i listen to besides carti
Whoever wrote the blurb for WLR has never sexually satisfied a woman in his life
WLR is about pleasuring yourself, not a woman.
@@rashotcake6945 ???
@@rashotcake6945 bro this is about Carti fans being shit at sex
@@rashotcake6945 it’s not that deep
@@rashotcake6945 Honestly it's pretty disappointing to see this comment get so many likes. I know you likely mean well, but as a person with a disability, disabled people do, in fact, have sex and can sexually please their partners. This is a massive stereotype that is partially derived from the infantilization of disabled people- and this infantilization is often used to excuse taking the rights away from disabled people.
Plus it simply isn't true that disabled people can't please women. I've known other women who have really enjoyed dating people with disabilities. For instance, one woman I know dated a guy with quadriplegia- and their sex life revolved around her mainly sitting on his face- if anything their sex life was more focused on her pleasure than it usually is with able-bodied men; and she preferred it that way.
Once again, while I think you mean well, please do not speak for a community that you know nothing about. Especially when you aren't educated enough to be aware of the ableism that you yourself hold. Plus inserting (incorrect) complaints on joke comments really doesn't help disabled people- if you want to help, you should use that time and energy to fight against the abnormally high rates of SA that disabled people experience, or on changing the laws on conservatorships. Thanks
Babytron really deserved that placement, most enjoyable album I heard this year, 27 tracks 0 skips
WLR is really hard to rate because everyone’s going to have their own skips, but you can also find 4-5 incredible tracks and those tracks may be different person to person. A borderline unenjoyable first listen for some but it can grow on you hard.
Yeah it definitely grew on me a lot throughout the year, for some reason that always happens to me with carti
4-5 good tracks out of like 10 or whatever would be a pretty meh album
@@byHexted there’s 23 tracks on WLR, so it’s actually just bad
My skips on wlr are neon and place because they're leaks that I ran into the ground waiting for wlr and the bore me compared to the rest of the tracklist, I also skip stop breathing sometimes because the bass in that beat can be a bit annoying but other than that I have enjoyed every song on wlr
every song on wlr is incredible
Brockhampton isn’t in the list but drake heys number 10, wow. Like come on
At this point I'm just convinced everybody forgot Kings Disease 2 came out this year.
Yeah, it was definitely an album that everyone ignored that was better than most albums that got released.
Also this list is missing Melodic Blue, LP!, By The Time I Get To Phoenix, and Roadrunner, which are all easily better than The young thug, Drake, and Polo G albums, and Montero and Planet Her are pop albums.
we didnt
No Injury Reserve and no jpegmafia, but hey they still got some underground artists in there
I just can’t get into JPEG is there something wrong with me
@ONTHEFLOW panders how?
@@IncredibleIceCastle JPEG a grower - instrumentals are weird as hell, and constant stylistic jumps between the tracks make getting into his albums quite uncomfortable, so it takes time to click with his style.
@ONTHEFLOW Isn't that how you make a living as an artist? If you make music no one likes and don't cater to your fans who's gonna stream your album and go to your shows? Name an artist that doesn't pander?
Why no Kings Disease II?
I just can’t get over the name KenTheMan.
Im a huge Mike fan for all the reasons melon doesn’t vibe with it. I like the understated and moody feeling I get from his music
after his wotw review, i can accept the opinions he gave in this, even if i don't agree. he accepts it's just not for him. fantano still wrong for that wotw review though
I am equally as mono tone so i love everything bro drops, i was kinda suprised he didnt fw it much
@@DjDeity215 fr as a monotone foo myself I find great relation with someone who has a “boring” voice
No peggy 😢
Ye isn’t Kanye’s stage name tho. All his music is still under ‘Kanye West’
Someone make the “youre bullshitting me” into a meme
Putting Sometimes I Might Be Introvert and The Off Season at 20 and 18 really throw the credibility out of the window.
J cole is the most overrated rapper since Eminem
@@hutch8668 I'm not a J cole fan, and I don't know I can say he is "the most" overrated artist in a world where Drake can put "meh" records and still be hit, however The Off Season is a good album and both things can be true.
“What are the metrics” is a good question for putting simz next to polo g
Is By The Time I Get To Phoenix too weird to be hip hop? Too underground? It is definitely a top 20, though. It's groundbreaking, man.
How dare you expect Rolling Stone to enjoy something experimental
Björk is not even there on their Greatest Song list
I watch all of fantanos videos but I live for this kind of content the most
good to see some Bo Jackson appreciation even though this list is awful
Just put every The Alchemist project in the top 15
That man, Simon Vozick-Levinson, really said "[Drake] also remakes Right Said Fred's 'I'm Too Sexy' as a Lonely Island-worthy comedy rap hit, just to show he can."
Thats a stretch, man.
They literally do not know what makes an album good or bad. They actually have no idea what they’re talking about
Simbi’s so low someone should be arrested for it
Whoever wrote the blurb for Donda sounds like his wife has a boyfriend
Def agree with whoever in chat said WLR at 1# is based and cringe at the same time
Missing Dave - "We're All Alone In This Together"
Average at best
@@zterpz7332 Check those ears
@@NowstalgiaPod Psychodrama is miles better.
I love that WLR is #1 🤣
Rolling Stones valid 🧛🏿♂️🧛🏿♂️🧛🏿♂️
Lamborghini parked outside and it’s purple like lean🧛🏽‼️
That laugh at 9:56 is infectious
Forgot slowthai, Peggy, rap Ferreira, Aesop rock, injury reserve, Blu, czarface and DOOM???
When I got to no.2, I was expecting a 4-way tie for no.1 between Injury Reserve, Nas, Tyler and JPEG.
You like KenTheMan? Her early work was a little too new wave for my taste.
Melon gave both WLR and Yeezus a 5/10
duplee punching the air rn
no Nas and SIMBI not being number 1 are MASSIVE caps
SIMBI isn’t even UK number 1 over Were All Alone In This Together by Dave
@@barry4649 and?
@@scoot7541 and what?
Never expected myself at number one
If you read the list backwards it’s actually slightly better. No scratch that. Quite a lot better
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin???????
If you read the write up for Donda it legit sounds like they despise Kanye and the record but include it just for it's relevance atm
Planet Her is a solid album
WHERES PEGGY
Look I don't know KenTheMan, but the second I saw that cover, I got real worried real quick.
Yeah this list PIZSED me off. I hate the critics. Thanks for being one of the few good critics out there, Anthony.
Brockhampton deserved a spot
Where is KD2? Am I missing something?
Vamp takeover 🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♀️
WLR at #1 as it should be. This list has some weird rankings (Drake is way too high) but WLR at the top spot is a huge W. SIMBI and Donda definitely need to be higher.
went from L to based when bo jackson popped out
This world of ours 1 or 2 would have been sick too
TNDstreams Could someone ask melon to review (any of) the following? I live in the Netherlands, so I cannot watch the stream. Thanks in advance
Honestly if they wanted to put a Michigan record, they should’ve put “Rich Off Pints 2” by Icewear Vezzo or “Coochie Chronicles” by Yn Jay
As much as people hate on cole I personally think he was at least top 10 this year
SIMBI at #18???? Smh my head
I feel like a Young Thug Greatest Hits album would be all over the place
Lol I saw the title and thought the rolling stones made a list with their favorite hip hop albums
I dont care wtf they think. Little Simz's Sometimes I Might Be Introvert is album of the year.
This list is missing RPs and Plan Bs 2, up 2 Më, Drill Spill, 47 Meters Down, and Volcanic Bird Enemy & the Voiced Concern.
I guarantee you whoever made this list are the only people on Earth that believe The Off Season < Donda < Punk < Certified Lover Boy < Whole Lotta Red in that specific order.
Most hip hop listeners aren't gonna even see this list lol
wheres the fool?
I don’t want to live in a world that doesn’t appreciate little simz
19:26 I LAUGHED SO HARD
Czarface/DOOM???
This list without Peggy doesn't even make sense 😭
baby keem and vince needed on this
Disco is definitely on my list, the vibes are immaculate
HIGHLY ENJOYABLE CRUISE ON AUTOPILOT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
I'm happy donda is on there, thought rolling stone would blacklist it lmao
As much as ppl clown Ye, he still has tight connections in the industry and a strong fan base … kkkkkk ;)
@@FrancescaS. yeah ik, I just remember when the reviews for donda came out and press was tearing it apart because of the manson and dababy stuff plus his political past. but you right, fans are loyal ;)
@@burritogamer3984 yeaaaaaah… lmao well they do make good cash n hits from Kanye’s antics don’t they. Like Anthony said they did place Donda p low to get it out of the way, but still… I agree I’m happy n fine as long as he even gets credited for his work. I still think he worked his ass of as of 2021.
@@FrancescaS. yeah for sure, the whole donda era was epic, like making it a spectacle in that way was awesome and it added to the album experience, bc you can have those memories of the stadium events/visuals to accompany the tracks. the man's workin on more music recently too, but lp 11 is probably far away lol.
It's true, they do get the clicks from making pieces about ye, it's a sorta relationship where even the bad press feeds back and forth in that they definitely use his name, and that also trends and brings up his antics on social media (like the recent business with his divorce with kim). just how it is i guess
@@burritogamer3984 aaaaaah pls ok I’ll stfu now but I CANT wait to see what he works on next…. Ppl said that Donda was like the end of an era in Kanye’s life (I mean it’s quite clear), so I’m at the edge of my seat to see what comes next. Can’t wait for new sounds and samples and collabs yup yup yup
No Peggy?!?!?!
Rolling stone is the worst magazine in the past 25 years o more. That magazine is just pure marketing and PR.
It’s the IGN of music
Most reviewers who work at these kinds of places are just desperate nerds trying to seem as esoteric as possible by overrating a bunch of garbage with hype behind it or something that seems really raw and street like maxo or thugger while completely ignoring the actual music. I don’t think rolling stone has discovered something new in like 30 years
Rolling Stone has just been guessing for awhile now especially when it comes to hip hop
Chat went crazy when wlr came on
a lot of the picks here are shit but i love that they respected boldy and mach. for some reason these sites love everything made by alc and more generally low key abstract street rap
i love grandpa
WHAT ABOUT ISAIAH?
The House is Burning is literally better than 99% of the hip hop albums that released this year
No Keem or injury reserve
Weirdly Houstonised list
Brokhampton, Dave, Slowthai, Vince Stables...Bruh.
no vince? no westside gunn? no peggy? no bh? wack
THEY ARE JUST TROLLING NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
“You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll listen Over and over again” NONE OF US ARE STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. Fucking lonely island has better song structure and is funnier then that song and they didn’t make great music either, but this is so obviously people brainwashed by the music video into thinking the song is a joke when he put it out as the serious album hit
where is all guyz on me? by twopac
no peggy, no nas, no owusu
bad list
No brockhampton, no Injury Reverse, no Slowthai, no armand hammer, no Blu...
Out of all those listed on here, SIMBI deserves to be #1 BY FAR, And if it was up to me, Id have LP! at 1, SIMBI at 2, TYRON 3, CMIYGL 4 & The Color Blu(e) at 5.
I agree with Whole Lotta Red at no.1, though.
Yea if I’m listening to radio it’s drake everywhere. I can’t just drive to that shit fr. Very true about autopilot
Backxwash shoulda been #1
WLR is the best hip-hop album of the year, without a doubt, it’s new, experimental and exciting. Even after a year it still feels fresh.
Yeah it is all those things, but none of those mean that it’s necessarily brilliant t
WLR is fucking insane in every way possible. Seeing it live is too much fun. The only songs I think genuinely suck are king vamp and not playing
LP! Is also new, experimental, exciting, and fresh and it’s better than WLR
@@lucdw3286 i think they both have their amazing influence and great moments but Peggy and Carti are in different lanes. Both great albums but i personally love WLR
It didn't come out this year
YES PIERRE MELON! YES! everything else i agree with tho
Kings Diseases 2 not making it lol