HG is the only narc that has never annoyed me. Usually I see it within two minutes and can't stand the person. My mom is a narc so I'm sensitive when I see it. Maybe because HG is intelligent, self aware of it and hes hilarious. His dry sense of humor kills me. He would be the best person to sit next to at a party ish talking about everyone.
My mum also.. and at 96 no let up abd I'm left to care for her😭😭😭😭. Although she's going to have to go to sheltered housing in the new year. I've had 62 years of it. I'm done.
I'm really loving these conversations H.G. is doing with interesting and knowledgeable people who can actually carry on a conversation about the Vultures. They don't just " repeat" others research and reporting. I will continue looking forward to them 🥰.
I do as well enjoy the conversations HG has with other creators that are knowledgeable on topics, he is very good at it and will look forward to more of them.
You’re outdoing yourself HG. You should interview George the Giant Slayer. This interview with ORMV was very eye opening. It’s like I know an ordinary persons personal story about narcissism. My heart hurts for this mother. Having five children I know as a mama we never give up on hope. Looking forward to your next interview, whoever it may be.
The biggest pain that can happen to a mother is when your child meets a partner who is adept at separating you and your child. You cannot do anything about it. You just have to be amicable and never say anything, hoping you can see them again.
This was such an important conversation. As a mom of a 20 year old son who’s been worried about a relationship he has with someone it has given me some thoughts to chew on. Thank you for the transparency of this woman. It seems very emotionally painful.
Thank you! You will do fine - you know the signs to look for - and how to negate the narc. I didn't even know what I was fighting against until it was too late. ❤❤
As someone who was ensnared at the age of 19 by someone in his 30s, I wish your son does not fall into the trap and the ORMV's can return. My luck came when I went to study abroad and the contact became less and my cousin got hold of my phone. Fast forward I was saved. I was the IPSS in that dynamic. It has forever changed me. This happened 10 years ago. My mum and I had a very close relationship and she told me she was noticing me drifting away and was very irritated at everything and everyone. The time when the narc was in silent treatment I used to be depressed and always trying to get back to our "normal". I pray for both of you having been victim myself at that age.
I completely understand the desire of this mother to follow Harry and TOW, and to expose TOW as a substitute for the woman who has ensnared her son. Plus she is part of the group of people discussing narcissism and their personal experiences. In this way she is not alone. ❤
@@Recollectionsmayvary13Like you, it helps me to know you are not alone when you can't understand why or how people who you are supposed to be able to rely on and trust, and who are supposed to care about you, can behave like that. When you fall back into thinking they might stop hurting you and apologise, it also reminds me to remember who they are and to stop making excuses for them and to know they will do it again if you keep giving them chances because each time they have to push further.
I got interested in TOW because she reminded me of my best frenemy in Jr. high. We don't always get to see thr downfall of narcs we've encountered, even if they have one, so watching TOW circle the drain provides some vicarious satisfaction.
YT Lost Beyond Pluto has done some deep “dives” around historic like the Tudors, Wallis and today with MM. Thank you for this frank conversation with Recollections May Vary. Have enjoyed her latest videos on “playing the long game”….
@@AppleCore222 I suggested this to HG some time ago, but he appears not to be able to contact her. Anyone else and ideas on a contact point? I have made a comment on her own RUclips asking if she would contact H.G.
I Feel for this lady. She definitely has saviour empath in significant amount. She is definitely on the line of true execeptance of the narcissists perspective. I remember this faze in my learning. It is hard to wrap your brain around how a human being exists this way. But Bravo to her for being a warrior for people to share Hg's knowledge.
If you really want to do a study in narcissism Oj Simpson is a great tool. So much video from birth to death. It's an amazing tool to clearly understand it. If you ever feel like going down that rabbit hole. Oj even talks about that constant need for admiration. Very interesting
My stomach churns at what RMV is going through with her son, and I'm so sorry. I sure hope she's reunited with him soon and it works out for the family. Impressed at her familiarity with the Tudor era peeps, but I've heard HG say what he was with his categorizations, and I desperately wish he'd speak more on the Tudors. I also suspect Anne of NPD and possibly Catherine Howard. I don't think the other wives were narcissists, but so many others at court with powerful positions at that time must have been.
I nearly lost my youngest son to a narcissist Her control over him and his internal frustration and lack of sleep drove him to the middle of a bridge where I found him. It was six months before he had control over himself and could push back from her control. Harrowing times. My heart goes out to ORMV
Isn’t it amazing when you sit and listen to HG and his guests how much you pick up on each guest. HG you have taught me how to listen and I thank you for that as well as continuing to enlighten me on Narcissism.
I agree thay Megyn knows Megsey is a joke, but could you imagine if Megsey got into politics? Megyn would start REALLY looking at all the things she already knows!
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 she isn’t going to get into politics any more than ARO is going to be a success. Why do people keep saying this. It’s ridiculous. No one wants MM . Everyone who matters avoids her. No party needs or wants her. She’s useless.
I did not know Recollections but will follow her. Thank you HG for this great conversation and it was so nice to see your lighter side with Jen and the Sidley Twins. ❤❤
Great Interview, Enjoyed the History Discussion also our lesson in Narcissism. I hope ORMV is United with her son not to far into the future. Thankyou HG .❤️🌻
Another great conversation, many thanks to you both. Interesting that TO and TOW got married on the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's execution. As her Late Majesty picked the wedding dates, it was extremely well played. 👏
I’m sending you my love. My marriage broke up when my daughter was only 11 and went to live with her father who died a few years later. My daughter is now into her forties . We haven’t had a relationship in 35 years in spite of many efforts to try and reconcile . She broke my heart however, I accept we will never have a relationship now . I understand your pain and I’m sorry you have had to deal with this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💙
This interview slipped through the net, so glad it came up on my feed as I thoroughly enjoyed it ,thank you both. The very likeable ORMV is a great RUclipsr, her take on things was very interesting and HG is a great interviewer. I, like many others, have always believed Henry’s jousting accident in 1536 provides the explanation for his personality change. He went from a sporty, promising, generous young prince, to a cruel, paranoid and vicious tyrant. Records reveal that after the accident he was unconscious for two hours (even five minutes of unconsciousness is considered to be a major trauma today). Science has proven that damage to the frontal lobe of the brain can definitively result in personality change.
HG Carries on an excellent well fessed out conversation with his usually clever flare and great voice. At first I was not so fond of the idea of HG talking to all these content producers - - many of whom I subscribe to and support - comment on regularly. Because He Can Be Cutting and Has a Potential to Sometimes Be Very Cunning - - I felt protective of these less seasoned individuals - - but everyone has been able to keep their own perspective while engaging with the ULTRA and HG has treated them with respect. The conversations are interesting and it's a good thorough conversation about the principals of Meg's narcissism and aspects of her frustrating and annoying and overly produced behavior that is continuously getting airplay via media outlets on a slant - - the real RUclips Creators are the ONES that UNCOVER the NONSENSE and Show Receipts. Thanks HG for these interviews.
HG does a good job with these interviews/discussions with other creators, but he is getting fuel from them and from the comments. As much as I enjoy listening to HG's videos and learning from them, I never forget that he is a narcissist and looking for secondary and tertiary sources of fuel, the prime aim for him.
Love these conversations. HG is an excellent interviewer. People like Piers Morgan can't resist interrupting even their most fascinating guests, but HG really listens and analyses what his guests say.
Agree... the interruptions by certain hosts make me cringe. I can no longer listen to their podcasts. IMO, Paula M is the biggest offender with Morgan a close second. They do not appear to listen or care about viewer feedback
H.G.s “conversations with” series have all been thoroughly enjoyable, interesting and informative. Our Recollections is definitely up there amongst those who have knowledge of narcissism, which made this episode a good interaction between the two. Thank you both very much.
HG, What a great video. Out of all the interviews you've done with Megzit-RUclipsrs this is the most introspective. It was entertaining, educational and very sad.
Thank you, HG and 'Our Recollections May Vary'. This was so interesting because, although Harry and wife were talked about, you didn't dwell on them. Instead it was a real conversation including Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn and ORMV's family situation (which I very much hope turns out well for her and her children).
Another well managed conversation, HG. FYI, In the US Constitution, Article I, Section 9, Clause 8, we have the Foreign Emoluments Clause which prohibits anyone holding any title of nobility from a foreign government from holding any elected office in the US. The only way TOW could hold any elected office in the US is by giving up all royal titles AND giving back all of the money, gifts, etc. that she has gained from those titles. I very much doubt that she would ever do that.
I actually have a few videos about that. The Foreign Emoulments clause doesn't stop her from holding political office. It prevents her from getting a title while IN office. The bigger concern is the potential fight with the SCOTUS if she challenges the accepted practice. Eisenhower became president with a title.
Sorry, but you are misreading the clause you mentioned: and no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of Congress, _accept_ of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. The key word is accept, not hold. For a real life example, President Eisenhower accepted a number of knighthoods from different countries before he became president, and he was not forced to relinquish them. It only pertains to emoluments the officeholder accepts while in office, and not to anything he or she accepted prior to being in office. Even then, you are able to accept titles if Congress consents. In any event, the title Duchess of Sussex is only a courtesy title, the peerage is held by Harry alone. The only barrier to MM's holding a title in office is that of public opinion, since most Americans do not understand the emoluments clause.
To me Henry 8 was a supreme monster. The devastation of our architectural heritage and the more grievous damage of a religious bloodbath just so he could be head of the church and intimidation and martyrdom. The way he discarded Catherine of Aragon who was loved by the English people for her generosity to the poor. The way he condemned to death a young girl one of his later wives who many believe now was groomed by men from when very young and the terror he inflicted on the wives he sentenced to death. Bernadette
Henry VIII married up when he married Catherine of Aragon. She was the daughter of powerful rulers whose families ruled their kingdoms for generations. The Tudors were upstarts who had not held the kingdom for a full generation when Catherine married into the family.
The way he treated his daughter, Mary. After being loved and doted on in her early years, it got to the point where he threatened to have her killed. He put her through so much. I always wonder what kind of a person she would have been as an adult if she hadn't been terrorized by her own father and not allowed to see her mother.
Appreciate this conversation regarding ongoing worry about an ensnared loved one. My biggest concern for Harry is his apparent escape into substance abuse. Substances will prevent him clearly seeing his surroundings and bar the door to problem solving. If he comes off substances he'll need about six months to a year for his body and mind to clear. Only then can it begin to dawn on him that an objective assessment of his life and course correcting is even more challenging than getting clean. At this juncture, best case scenario would be for TOW to dump him. But the longer she allows the public to get a good look at her the more her options shrink and the more she needs to acquire character traits from the man she's destroying. Its a fucking tragedy. For Harry and his children's sake, I hope something knocks them all off the path of trundling along unhappily ever after. As always, Thank-you HG
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 Thank-you for sharing your story today. So much of the emphasis on the effects of narcissism are focused on either the individual with NPD or romantic relationships to the exclusion of the collateral damage caused by these pairings. It was helpful to hear a discussion of how the consequences ripple out to others. Hoping for the best, sooner rather than later, for your son. Nineteen is too young to let one wrong turn alienate you from caring parents. All the best!
Thank you, Our Recollections, for your candor. I really hope your son comes to the realisation sooner rather than later and returns to you safe and well.
Her describing how she started paying attention to Meghan and Harry duplicate how I started paying attention to them. My brother married a malignant narcissist and it brought pain and destruction to my family as well. On the plus side, I'm able to understand and deal with my family sutuation better.
I started paying attention to all this as well because it happened in our family with our son's wife about the same time as Mexit. It has so many parallels.
Thank you Recollections May Vary for sharing your thoughts and experiences and being so articulate in the face of such tough circumstances. Thinking about history and the Tudors, I feel sure Henry the eighth was at least a narcissist (? narcissistic psychopath) and of the ‘greater’ school. Thanks again to both you and HG.
IMO - it's infuriating to watch this one's wife continue to get away with what she is doing. Most of us intellectually understand the "why" (she is a narcissist afterall) but she is a harmful person and potentially dangerous if allowed to continue down her current tragectory. Not all narcissists are this dangerous.
Nine years older than her son, I believe. She is toxic, destructive, manipulative and certainly found her ideal target (likely not the first). This is doomed to end, but how? ORMV... hang in there. This must be awful, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Your son will return, along with a major life lesson learned
To Recollections May Vary-I, too, am dealing with an estranged son and daughter-in-law. I feel your pain and your story really touched me. I think that’s why I have enormous compassion for Charles and William.
Love ORMV & her historical correlations between then & now! She has a truly interesting spin that I totally relate to regarding this whole damn Messss! Thank You HG & ORMV ❤️
As always HG, great interview. Makes it more enjoyable when the person being interviewed is such a lovely person with a great channel. I'm so sorry you are going through this ORMV 🙏❤️🙏 You did an excellent interview and did your channel proud 😘
Thank you HG and "ORMV", another great interview that draws attention to the damaging influence a narcissist has on a victim. HG's insight on narcissism provides clarity and understanding on the hows and whys . Good luck ORMV that your family gets an eventual favourable resolution .
I would love to see you do an interview with Beebs Kelly. She started out doing mostly Meghan's fashion ( or lack thereof). In the last few months she is doing commentary and she's excellent. Very intelligent and level headed. As much as I detest Harry and Meghan, some You Tubers tend to go OTT at times but Beebs isn't like that. She's very interesting and makes thoughtful comments on why she feels the way she does about their latest shenanigans.
Enlightening as always HG!! Love how you ask questions of your guests that really make me think. Like when you playing the devil's advocate. Im sending this Mom lots of love in her hard times about her son right now. I think he will definitely come back to you and family. Although of course I don't know when. I may happen "out of the blue" when you least expect it. And all of a sudden he will reach out to you. Blessings.
Another excellent conversation ! I understand why the media won’t expose TOW but I cannot fathom why The Royal Family are not taking action to rescue Harry from this extremely toxic situation.
He has to see it for himself and want to be rescued. I dont think it has dawned on him yet. He has been totally brainwashed and isolated from everyone he was close to, which is what narcissists do
Harry perceives the Royal Family as being the enemy, not his wife, no matter what we think or believe. Hence his belief that they are owed an apology and even now Harry persists in carrying out pseudo visits and presenting himself as a world authority on psychology, cyber bulling, on par with a man who has studied mental health/ psychology/ psychiatry/ cyber bully specialist at a university level and he genuinely perceives himself as a leading world authority on these topics. He still believes he has the authority and power he previously held, regardless that he no longer represents the British Royal family.
That poor mother. I can’t imagine being in her shoes. You make a good point about not paying attention to Meghan & Harry anymore …scrolling on by & not clicking on stories, HG. I have to be honest & tell you I think we’d all be a lot better off if we chose to do that. Having said that though… my interest in trying to evaluate Meghan Markle led me to you, HG. And I LEARNED so much about narcissism from you … I already knew some of it because I spent from the time I was 10 years old to 17 years old … in the clutches of a narcissist stepmother. Your videos have helped me process it all & what happened to me & helped me put my bad memories in the past. Also, I listen to many of your other videos on a daily basis. Your series on Lucy Letby was incredible. Meghan & Harry are still like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I keep wondering IF Harry will ever escape her. He’s still demanding apologies from the Royal Family for her, still wanting armed security to protect her from imaginary threats. He’s still touring with her, trying to help her create the phantasmagoric public image she convinced him she was. And getting disrespected & humiliated by her at every outing. I wish peace & recovery for His Majesty King Charles. And the same for HRH Catherine, Princess of Wales. The Royal Family is doing the right thing by disengaging from Meghan entirely & giving Harry the cold shoulder, too. Great video, HG. Thank you for your great work.
I can relate to the need to follow all of the above on Meghan Markles as I had 2 definite narcissists in my life and haven't had any justice or acknowledgement for the damage they left in their wake.And I didn't know at that exact time but I just felt something was really not right about Markles on her wedding day. Especially after seeing the expression on our late Queens' face that day .She knew something wasn't right about her.
Collectively we are all horrified at the behaviours exhibited by TOW, we can understand the 'why' BUT like watching a train wreck happening in slow motion, we cannot look away while we wait for the implosion.
Henry V111 was ruthless if his'friends' and family went against him or they became of no use to him. including Cardinal Wolsey, Thomas Moore etc. He discarded his wives if they were of no longer any use to him. Such as not producing male heirs. His ghosting of them was much more ruthless though - often meeting the scaffold.
He stayed friends with Anne of cleaves. The one he called horse face. Got her a very nice big house, servants and money. He only killed two of his wives for adultery ( lol im not saying that's normal. It still happens in extremist religions). They other ones died naturally or he divorced. Then he died when still married. He had one son with a mistress but he died at 15. Henry could have gotten tons of mistresses prego and the males would be legit to be king. I wonder why he just didn't do that. He was a jerk to Mary and Elizabeth both. People of the future are lucky. They could look at all the video of people and historical moments. It would be.fascinating to be able to see him and hear his voice. Im sure a lot of propaganda we know would be so different.
He treated Anne of Cleves well because it benefitted him to do so. His alliance with her brother was too important. He did seem to take out his frustration of Thomas Cromwell though.
Another fantastic interview HG, you are simply brilliant! What I particularly love in this series of excellent interviewing skills is that you select many small (and growing) channels like this one that I had not even heard of before and I thought I knew them all! Her comparisons with Anne Boleyn, her being an estranged parent like myself and her answers to your “this or that” quiz which were identical to how I might have answered made me subscribe to the channel right away! Thank you HG, awesome work!❤
Omg this ladies situation with her son sounds so similar to mine it's chilling. But I actually got accused of domestic violence against my son. It blind sided me as I was so focused on going no contact with other narcissists in my life 😢
Oh HG, that was so enjoyable to listen to. It’s really nice to hear the opinions of the lady from the US. She’s obviously had a lot to deal with but was so level headed about the awful situation she is going through. Also, her knowledge of Henry VIII was very impressive. I hope her story has a good ending and her son can heal his relationships with his family and friends . Sadly we often learn our greatest lessons from the mistakes we make and I have no doubt he will be a much stronger and wiser person after this experience.
Thank you very much HG and ORMV for another great conversation. I have loved all of the conversations that you have been doing with my favourite channels. Big hugs to ORMV for what she went through, and is going through, with her son, that is horrific. I will be posting more to her directly about this on her channel, but wow. Dear HG: I think that both Lady C and The Body Language Guy/The Royal Rogue (Jesus, but those are his two channels, which I am sure you know) would both be amazing conversations for you to have, please and thank you =).
Anne Boleyn persuaded Henry to bin the Catholic Church and out of that was born the Church of England and Protestants. This change, completely changed the Country, and still there are issues with religion to this day. Anne had a huge influence. It was Cromwell who was her downfall.
Not correct.. she paid little effect to his own learnings, well under way before he met Anne.. Anne simply agreed with his perspective from her own European times. It was Cromwell that pushed it.. via the money aspect which sealed the deal
She didn't persuade him. The Lutheran teachings were widely known at the time and it played to Henry's vanity. If anyone had influence it was the scheming Cromwell. By leaving the Church of Rome, no longer were his hands tied by the Pope, he became Supreme Head of the Church on earth and through the desecration of the monasteries and cathedrals became the richest King and greatest landowner in England's history. To suggest Anne had that much power is frankly ridiculous. By separating from Rome he could divorce Catherine and marry her. As if any woman, or man for that matter had power over that physcopath is to not understand the matter. Only Cromwell could manage him, and look what happened to him in the end..all because he encouraged him to marry Anne of Cleeves. Not even the best historians can entirely see what caused Anne Boleyn's sudden downfall, which happened in a matter of weeks, tho Cromwell was instrumental in it and Henry was on to his next infatuation, but Anne Boleyn, which ever way one looks at it, outside The Tudors and Phillipa Gregory novels, was one of the most wronged people in England's Royal history.
My light bulb moment for me was their engagement interview was when Harry said something about them being a team doing royal engagements and the look on her face said to me no way is that happening.
She has 100% described my daughter in law ...jealous of my relationship with other daughters in law ,hell bent on causing conflict and then blames everybody else....my son suddenly broke all contact and sent me very upsetting messages. They then stopped all contact with my granddaughter's to whom i was very close too. I always refused to get into any conversation/argument with her so this was the only way to hurt me. My family are all close and my son and his wife basically have no support/friendship from either family...their choice .
Thank you, HG. I think Henry was a narcissist per excellence. Our Beef Eater guide at the Tower of London told a little tale that was both heart wrenching and indicative of what a terror he was. We forget the ages of these women. Catherine Howard was only 15 when he sentenced her to the Tower for her execution. We were shown the room where she sat for 2 weeks, her window and only view the place where she would be beheaded. I was very emotional where Ann Boleyn was beheaded as well, a clear glass cushion on a pedestal stood in the pouring rain as we heard the story of how she was falsely accused and lost her head too. I wish you would do a series on this particular era for us. Even if Harry were to have options, he would not kill TOW. He may dream about her not existing anymore, but not at his own hand, I can almost guarantee that.
I agree … George the Giant Slayer is a great suggestion also I would love to hear conversations with Scandalous Media, Lost Beyond Pluto, the Royal Rogue, Sue Me, Leilani of Barbados & Black Belt Secrets
First of all, Henry and Harry were foul-tempered, narcissistic, red-headed Spare. Anne was betrayed by the powerful men in her family. She went to Hever twice, hoping Heney would find someone else. Her Uncle Norfolk and her father made bank off her back. Yes, after seven years, she did get some attitude. However, she was extremely pious and held him off six years. Yes, when the Pope wouldn't grant the divorce she introduced Henry to the Protestant church so he could grant his own divorce. (Pretty narcissistic to make yourself "Supreme Head of the Church of England Only Under Jesus Christ!). What really went wrong for Anne is two-fold. First, she promised Henry a son. She had Elizabeth and then three miscarriages of sons. Just like Catherine, who had a son that only lived a brief while, a girl, and five miscarriages. He had gotten a Papal Dispensation to marry Catherine because she was married to his brother. He conveniently found another verse that said, paraphrasing, "whoever sleeps with his brother's wife, uncovers his nakedness, and they will have no sons." Henry had an affair with Anne's sister Mary, and had for sure one, and probably two children. But, he couldn't use that again because it hadn't worked for the divorce. Secondly, Henry has a hideous jousting accident early in 1536. He was unconscious by many contemporary sources for two hours. I would imagine there would be brain swelling for a while. The stress of the accident caused Anne to miscarry her third son. That's when he snapped and sent her to the tower. But, he had to have a good reason so he said that she had an affair with 4 men at court, and to make sure it stick, incest with her brother. Oh, abd that she had been a witch that caused his obsession for 10 years with her. So, to conclude she was executed for not giving him a son (probaly Kell's disease), and, likely because he had a traumatic brain injury literally days before he had her sent to the tower. The cool part is that his precious son only ruled six years, Mary I five. Elizabeth, Gloriana, ruled 45 years and ushered in the "Golden Age." I hope he saw it from Hell.
Excellent discussion. It's so interesting to hear different reasons for why people got involved in the megsit discussion. Thank you so much for all these excellent discussions, sir. Looking forward to the next video in the series.
If that were my child; I'd play the long game. Do not call police for 'wellness checks' ~ child will notice when police no longer show up. Do not ask thier friends if they've heard from him; that too will get back to them if they are still in contact. Stop all of it; but retain a private investigator for a report twice a month. You'll know facts; and receive a general description if they're are in good health ~ you'll also know when they're kicked to the curb. After a while and when it appears they are finished; send PI over stating you've been looking for them ~ since they've been gone so long...
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 you're welcome. If he has moved since last known location it may take some time/money to relocate but after that its just a matter of the PI taking time to confirm status is the same which does not cost much. If its changed, they'll search that out new location as well. Just a way to give you some peace of mind until he breaks from her for good and contacts you or comes home :)
We are dealing with the aftermath of the discard by the narcissist. Two years later, and the walls are still up. He talks more to his Dad than to me, which is the reverse of how things were before the narcissist. The narcissist’s rage was directed toward an older sibling, and he is still believing of the brainwashing. Horrible situation all around, so RMV, I do understand the pain and heartache y’all are dealing with.
I watch videos of markle or any narcissists is because it's a form of therapy for me and for example with HG Tudors information i can finally feel like i get the answers that i need rather than just talking about how i feel.
HG is the only narc that has never annoyed me. Usually I see it within two minutes and can't stand the person. My mom is a narc so I'm sensitive when I see it. Maybe because HG is intelligent, self aware of it and hes hilarious. His dry sense of humor kills me. He would be the best person to sit next to at a party ish talking about everyone.
My mum also.. and at 96 no let up abd I'm left to care for her😭😭😭😭. Although she's going to have to go to sheltered housing in the new year. I've had 62 years of it. I'm done.
He provides valuable information to protect ourselves from the narcissist who recklessly gather fuel.
Sorry, you think Harry is intelligent? Where, how?
@heidimueller1039 I’m sorry, are you new here? HG Tudor is very intelligent-and he’s quite funny, too!
That’s because he’s giving you something you want.
I'm really loving these conversations H.G. is doing with interesting and knowledgeable people who can actually carry on a conversation about the Vultures. They don't just " repeat" others research and reporting. I will continue looking forward to them 🥰.
Loved today’s video by Jen, RHR Jen with the Sidley Twins and HG - 2 part video , 2nd one tomorrow.
Same here. And the video today was is my favourite
Yes that was a wonderful session and comical😁☺️@@Wildflowers516
I do as well enjoy the conversations HG has with other creators that are knowledgeable on topics, he is very good at it and will look forward to more of them.
What a nice lady! I hope her son returns soon ❤
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I'm the mother of 3 adult sons & an empath now balling my eyes out for this mother. I'm going to find your channel now. 😘
@@rosie2801.1I just sub'd too.....I feel your pain Sweety Ive got the same problem with my Adult Child,
Sending ❤and (((((hugs)))))👋🇦🇺
I wonder why HG thinks he will probably return if she gives him the boot. Is it because he's so young?
Great lady. Happy to have found her. Very relatable...
You’re outdoing yourself HG. You should interview George the Giant Slayer. This interview with ORMV was very eye opening. It’s like I know an ordinary persons personal story about narcissism. My heart hurts for this mother. Having five children I know as a mama we never give up on hope. Looking forward to your next interview, whoever it may be.
The biggest pain that can happen to a mother is when your child meets a partner who is adept at separating you and your child. You cannot do anything about it. You just have to be amicable and never say anything, hoping you can see them again.
@@Susan-vl8ts it takes so much strength to stay silent
Thank you! ❤
@@Susan-vl8ts yes, there is always hope! 🥲
@@marileearsenault4749 that's why I do what I do! 😉
This was such an important conversation. As a mom of a 20 year old son who’s been worried about a relationship he has with someone it has given me some thoughts to chew on. Thank you for the transparency of this woman. It seems very emotionally painful.
Thank you! You will do fine - you know the signs to look for - and how to negate the narc. I didn't even know what I was fighting against until it was too late. ❤❤
As someone who was ensnared at the age of 19 by someone in his 30s, I wish your son does not fall into the trap and the ORMV's can return. My luck came when I went to study abroad and the contact became less and my cousin got hold of my phone. Fast forward I was saved. I was the IPSS in that dynamic. It has forever changed me. This happened 10 years ago. My mum and I had a very close relationship and she told me she was noticing me drifting away and was very irritated at everything and everyone. The time when the narc was in silent treatment I used to be depressed and always trying to get back to our "normal". I pray for both of you having been victim myself at that age.
I completely understand the desire of this mother to follow Harry and TOW, and to expose TOW as a substitute for the woman who has ensnared her son. Plus she is part of the group of people discussing narcissism and their personal experiences. In this way she is not alone. ❤
Exactly! And you forgot the other big one - this community understands better! ❤❤❤😊 Thank you!
@@Recollectionsmayvary13Like you, it helps me to know you are not alone when you can't understand why or how people who you are supposed to be able to rely on and trust, and who are supposed to care about you, can behave like that. When you fall back into thinking they might stop hurting you and apologise, it also reminds me to remember who they are and to stop making excuses for them and to know they will do it again if you keep giving them chances because each time they have to push further.
I got interested in TOW because she reminded me of my best frenemy in Jr. high. We don't always get to see thr downfall of narcs we've encountered, even if they have one, so watching TOW circle the drain provides some vicarious satisfaction.
YT Lost Beyond Pluto has done some deep “dives” around historic like the Tudors, Wallis and today with MM. Thank you for this frank conversation with Recollections May Vary. Have enjoyed her latest videos on “playing the long game”….
Oh I would love if HG did a conversation with Pluto! She’s so smart and can read people well!
@@AppleCore222 I suggested this to HG some time ago, but he appears not to be able to contact her. Anyone else and ideas on a contact point? I have made a comment on her own RUclips asking if she would contact H.G.
@@gwendolineknox784she may have declined, as did Shauna The Vintage Read 😊
@@gwendolineknox784 not being able to...? in 2024? Come on. They both know what they are doing and both know what they want.
Will absolutely start following her...watch Lost beyond Pluto as well. Fascinating channel.
I Feel for this lady. She definitely has saviour empath in significant amount. She is definitely on the line of true execeptance of the narcissists perspective. I remember this faze in my learning. It is hard to wrap your brain around how a human being exists this way. But Bravo to her for being a warrior for people to share Hg's knowledge.
If you really want to do a study in narcissism Oj Simpson is a great tool. So much video from birth to death. It's an amazing tool to clearly understand it. If you ever feel like going down that rabbit hole. Oj even talks about that constant need for admiration. Very interesting
No one should experience this 😢
Hopefully he'll hear this podcast and come home where he belongs 🙏 ❤ A mother will always forgive.
@@PrincessHarlotte You know that's part of why I do this! 🥲❤❤
Thank you! 💗 and you are right - I can intellectualize narcissism, but I still don't "get it"! XO
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 We love and support you 💜 ❤️ 💗
My stomach churns at what RMV is going through with her son, and I'm so sorry. I sure hope she's reunited with him soon and it works out for the family. Impressed at her familiarity with the Tudor era peeps, but I've heard HG say what he was with his categorizations, and I desperately wish he'd speak more on the Tudors. I also suspect Anne of NPD and possibly Catherine Howard. I don't think the other wives were narcissists, but so many others at court with powerful positions at that time must have been.
I agree with Recollections. It is not until you experience a narcissist personally that you truly understand narcissism.
They are worse than people realise.
I nearly lost my youngest son to a narcissist Her control over him and his internal frustration and lack of sleep drove him to the middle of a bridge where I found him. It was six months before he had control over himself and could push back from her control. Harrowing times. My heart goes out to ORMV
Isn’t it amazing when you sit and listen to HG and his guests how much you pick up on each guest.
HG you have taught me how to listen and I thank you for that as well as continuing to enlighten me on Narcissism.
So well said.I feel the same.
@@alysondakin3640 you are not alone. For this I gladly give any fuel I can to this man. It's well placed... He has given much.
Another wonderful conversation with the Ultra and Our Recollections May Vary! Fantastic series! 💜
XOXO
Great interview 👍🏻
Much sympathy for what she is going through with her son 😢
Thank you ❤❤🥲
It is not her, it is the son who is going through life experiences, as men should.
Meghyn Kelly already has her number along with Candace Owens.
I agree thay Megyn knows Megsey is a joke, but could you imagine if Megsey got into politics? Megyn would start REALLY looking at all the things she already knows!
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 she isn’t going to get into politics any more than ARO is going to be a success. Why do people keep saying this. It’s ridiculous. No one wants MM . Everyone who matters avoids her. No party needs or wants her. She’s useless.
yes! But also CNN, MSNBC, etc will jump on the truth train. They will dig, find and report. Could she handle that? We shall see. 🤔
I did not know Recollections but will follow her. Thank you HG for this great conversation and it was so nice to see your lighter side with Jen and the Sidley Twins. ❤❤
Ditto ! Loved the chat with the ladies of both channels and HG. I also hadn’t heard of ORMV …. I too will check out her channel.
She posts TOO MUCH misinformation
In your opinion 🤔@@gritsgalraisedinthesouth
Thank you! ❤
@@Wildflowers516thank you! ❤
Great Interview, Enjoyed the History Discussion also our lesson in Narcissism. I hope ORMV is United with her son not to far into the future. Thankyou HG .❤️🌻
Thank you!!❤❤
Another great conversation, many thanks to you both. Interesting that TO and TOW got married on the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's execution. As her Late Majesty picked the wedding dates, it was extremely well played. 👏
I am so excited... This is going to be excellent. I love RECOLLECTIONS!!! SO thorough.
Me too!
Thank you! XOXO
@sciencewins8798 XOXO
I’m sending you my love. My marriage broke up when my daughter was only 11 and went to live with her father who died a few years later. My daughter is now into her forties . We haven’t had a relationship in 35 years in spite of many efforts to try and reconcile . She broke my heart however, I accept we will never have a relationship now . I understand your pain and I’m sorry you have had to deal with this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💙
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@@silvermoontearoom7123 what a thoughtful kind comment thank you so much
Big hug. ❤
This interview slipped through the net, so glad it came up on my feed as I thoroughly enjoyed it ,thank you both. The very likeable ORMV is a great RUclipsr, her take on things was very interesting and HG is a great interviewer.
I, like many others, have always believed Henry’s jousting accident in 1536 provides the explanation for his personality change. He went from a sporty, promising, generous young prince, to a cruel, paranoid and vicious tyrant.
Records reveal that after the accident he was unconscious for two hours (even five minutes of unconsciousness is considered to be a major trauma today).
Science has proven that damage to the frontal lobe of the brain can definitively result in personality change.
His nanny said he was born angry.
RMV’s experience with a woman inappropriately inserting herself into her young son’s life is terrifying. My heart goes out to her.
HG Carries on an excellent well fessed out conversation with his usually clever flare and great voice. At first I was not so fond of the idea of HG talking to all these content producers - - many of whom I subscribe to and support - comment on regularly. Because He Can Be Cutting and Has a Potential to Sometimes Be Very Cunning - - I felt protective of these less seasoned individuals - - but everyone has been able to keep their own perspective while engaging with the ULTRA and HG has treated them with respect. The conversations are interesting and it's a good thorough conversation about the principals of Meg's narcissism and aspects of her frustrating and annoying and overly produced behavior that is continuously getting airplay via media outlets on a slant - - the real RUclips Creators are the ONES that UNCOVER the NONSENSE and Show Receipts. Thanks HG for these interviews.
HG does a good job with these interviews/discussions with other creators, but he is getting fuel from them and from the comments. As much as I enjoy listening to HG's videos and learning from them, I never forget that he is a narcissist and looking for secondary and tertiary sources of fuel, the prime aim for him.
Love these conversations. HG is an excellent interviewer. People like Piers Morgan can't resist interrupting even their most fascinating guests, but HG really listens and analyses what his guests say.
Agree... the interruptions by certain hosts make me cringe. I can no longer listen to their podcasts. IMO, Paula M is the biggest offender with Morgan a close second. They do not appear to listen or care about viewer feedback
Very interesting to hear from so many channels or people Ive never heard of .
Her channel is excellent.
@@Duchess-of-Camelotthank you, luv! ❤😊
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 My pleasure darling 🥰
H.G.s “conversations with” series have all been thoroughly enjoyable, interesting and informative. Our Recollections is definitely up there amongst those who have knowledge of narcissism, which made this episode a good interaction between the two.
Thank you both very much.
Brilliant chat thank you both!!
My heart goes out to ORMV. Xx
Looking forward to this. ORMV is a friend and love her to bits ❤
No one knows a narc like someone that has their life destroyed by a narc. 😢
@@PrincessHarlotteTrue!!!! Unfortunately.
@debbieScottishLass I can imagine, she sounds lovely.
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I hope you enjoyed it and I did out channel proud! ❤😊
HG, What a great video. Out of all the interviews you've done with Megzit-RUclipsrs this is the most introspective. It was entertaining, educational and very sad.
Thanks Mr HG TUDOR for having ORMV on. She is a very informative and creative you tuber. I just wish she had more subs. She definitely deserves them.
Niceeeeeee lady…. hope she continues to follow your work… HG❤
What a really interesting conversation. I empathise with Recollections and I follow the antics of TOW for the same reasons, Good has to prevail!! 🤞🇬🇧
Thank you, HG and 'Our Recollections May Vary'. This was so interesting because, although Harry and wife were talked about, you didn't dwell on them. Instead it was a real conversation including Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn and ORMV's family situation (which I very much hope turns out well for her and her children).
Thank you! 💗 🥲
Another well managed conversation, HG. FYI, In the US Constitution, Article I, Section 9, Clause 8, we have the Foreign Emoluments Clause which prohibits anyone holding any title of nobility from a foreign government from holding any elected office in the US. The only way TOW could hold any elected office in the US is by giving up all royal titles AND giving back all of the money, gifts, etc. that she has gained from those titles. I very much doubt that she would ever do that.
I actually have a few videos about that. The Foreign Emoulments clause doesn't stop her from holding political office. It prevents her from getting a title while IN office. The bigger concern is the potential fight with the SCOTUS if she challenges the accepted practice. Eisenhower became president with a title.
Sorry, but you are misreading the clause you mentioned:
and no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of Congress, _accept_ of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
The key word is accept, not hold. For a real life example, President Eisenhower accepted a number of knighthoods from different countries before he became president, and he was not forced to relinquish them. It only pertains to emoluments the officeholder accepts while in office, and not to anything he or she accepted prior to being in office. Even then, you are able to accept titles if Congress consents. In any event, the title Duchess of Sussex is only a courtesy title, the peerage is held by Harry alone. The only barrier to MM's holding a title in office is that of public opinion, since most Americans do not understand the emoluments clause.
You are correct. Those titles are everything to her narcissism. She will never give them up for something as risky and tenuous as running for office.
To me Henry 8 was a supreme monster. The devastation of our architectural heritage and the more grievous damage of a religious bloodbath just so he could be head of the church and intimidation and martyrdom. The way he discarded Catherine of Aragon who was loved by the English people for her generosity to the poor. The way he condemned to death a young girl one of his later wives who many believe now was groomed by men from when very young and the terror he inflicted on the wives he sentenced to death. Bernadette
Totally agree. I think Catherine of Aragon was the most fascinating of Henry’s wives.
Henry VIII married up when he married Catherine of Aragon. She was the daughter of powerful rulers whose families ruled their kingdoms for generations. The Tudors were upstarts who had not held the kingdom for a full generation when Catherine married into the family.
And the terrible way he treated Anne Boleyn , destroying her romance with Harry Percy
@@michelleb3698 found her the least interesting
The way he treated his daughter, Mary. After being loved and doted on in her early years, it got to the point where he threatened to have her killed. He put her through so much. I always wonder what kind of a person she would have been as an adult if she hadn't been terrorized by her own father and not allowed to see her mother.
Appreciate this conversation regarding ongoing worry about an ensnared loved one. My biggest concern for Harry is his apparent escape into substance abuse.
Substances will prevent him clearly seeing his surroundings and bar the door to problem solving. If he comes off substances he'll need about six months to a year for his body and mind to clear. Only then can it begin to dawn on him that an objective assessment of his life and course correcting is even more challenging than getting clean.
At this juncture, best case scenario would be for TOW to dump him. But the longer she allows the public to get a good look at her the more her options shrink and the more she needs to acquire character traits from the man she's destroying. Its a fucking tragedy.
For Harry and his children's sake, I hope something knocks them all off the path of trundling along unhappily ever after.
As always,
Thank-you HG
It really is a tragedy. He is a shell of the man he was.
Not only is his aweful wife consuming Henry she is pimping him to affect the world political spectrum 😟
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 Thank-you for sharing your story today. So much of the emphasis on the effects of narcissism are focused on either the individual with NPD or romantic relationships to the exclusion of the collateral damage caused by these pairings. It was helpful to hear a discussion of how the consequences ripple out to others.
Hoping for the best, sooner rather than later, for your son. Nineteen is too young to let one wrong turn alienate you from caring parents. All the best!
Agreed 🎉
Thank you, Our Recollections, for your candor. I really hope your son comes to the realisation sooner rather than later and returns to you safe and well.
Her describing how she started paying attention to Meghan and Harry duplicate how I started paying attention to them. My brother married a malignant narcissist and it brought pain and destruction to my family as well. On the plus side, I'm able to understand and deal with my family sutuation better.
Do you still have a relationship with your brother? My narcissist sister in law has destroyed my previously close relationship with mine
I started paying attention to all this as well because it happened in our family with our son's wife about the same time as Mexit. It has so many parallels.
Thank you HG, what a lovely person to have a conversation with. I truly hope she'll be reunited with her son soon.
Thank you!❤😊
Thank you Recollections May Vary for sharing your thoughts and experiences and being so articulate in the face of such tough circumstances. Thinking about history and the Tudors, I feel sure Henry the eighth was at least a narcissist (? narcissistic psychopath) and of the ‘greater’ school. Thanks again to both you and HG.
I know that the accepted wisdom is that Henry was the bad guy. I just thought I would challenge that a bit for fun! ❤😊
Thank you both for this wonderful interview. I hold you both in the highest esteem.
IMO - it's infuriating to watch this one's wife continue to get away with what she is doing. Most of us intellectually understand the "why" (she is a narcissist afterall) but she is a harmful person and potentially dangerous if allowed to continue down her current tragectory. Not all narcissists are this dangerous.
❤ RMV..I hope your son does not impregnant that old witch that took him away from your family ❤.
Nine years older than her son, I believe. She is toxic, destructive, manipulative and certainly found her ideal target (likely not the first). This is doomed to end, but how? ORMV... hang in there. This must be awful, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Your son will return, along with a major life lesson learned
To Recollections May Vary-I, too, am dealing with an estranged son and daughter-in-law. I feel your pain and your story really touched me. I think that’s why I have enormous compassion for Charles and William.
Great interview. Thank you. Recollection May Vary, I hope your son comes back soon 🙏🏽 .
Thank you!!❤🥲
Love ORMV & her historical correlations between then & now! She has a truly interesting spin that I totally relate to regarding this whole damn Messss!
Thank You HG & ORMV ❤️
Love you @TXKitKat!! ❤❤
As always HG, great interview.
Makes it more enjoyable when the person being interviewed is such a lovely person with a great channel.
I'm so sorry you are going through this ORMV 🙏❤️🙏
You did an excellent interview and did your channel proud 😘
Thank you again, HG! It was wonderful chatting with you! ❤
Excellent interview with HG, Lady Recollections! I hope this attracts more viewers and subs to your channel!
OT: Are you from NooYawk or Joisey? Your accent is so comforting to me!
@@ViolettaD1485Jersey! With a touch of Maryland drawl 😂
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 Awwww....
Thank you HG and ORMV ❣️
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I enjoyed the interview so much! You are a brilliant conversationalist HG! Excellent videos always!
Good afternoon… HG❤another Conversation… listening with interest…. 👏👏👏
Oh my...I feel for this woman and the situation with her son.
Thank you HG and "ORMV", another great interview that draws attention to the damaging influence a narcissist has on a victim. HG's insight on narcissism provides clarity and understanding on the hows and whys . Good luck ORMV that your family gets an eventual favourable resolution .
I would love to see you do an interview with Beebs Kelly. She started out doing mostly Meghan's fashion ( or lack thereof). In the last few months she is doing commentary and she's excellent. Very intelligent and level headed.
As much as I detest Harry and Meghan, some You Tubers tend to go OTT at times but Beebs isn't like that. She's very interesting and makes thoughtful comments on why she feels the way she does about their latest shenanigans.
I love this series!
Oh great love all these interview's ❤❤️
Enlightening as always HG!! Love how you ask questions of your guests that really make me think. Like when you playing the devil's advocate. Im sending this Mom lots of love in her hard times about her son right now. I think he will definitely come back to you and family. Although of course I don't know when. I may happen "out of the blue" when you least expect it. And all of a sudden he will reach out to you. Blessings.
So sorry about the family relationship. 💔💔
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Another excellent conversation ! I understand why the media won’t expose TOW but I cannot fathom why The Royal Family are not taking action to rescue Harry from this extremely toxic situation.
It might be because Harry doesn't want to be rescued
He has to see it for himself and want to be rescued. I dont think it has dawned on him yet. He has been totally brainwashed and isolated from everyone he was close to, which is what narcissists do
Harry perceives the Royal Family as being the enemy, not his wife, no matter what we think or believe. Hence his belief that they are owed an apology and even now Harry persists in carrying out pseudo visits and presenting himself as a world authority on psychology, cyber bulling, on par with a man who has studied mental health/ psychology/ psychiatry/ cyber bully specialist at a university level and he genuinely perceives himself as a leading world authority on these topics. He still believes he has the authority and power he previously held, regardless that he no longer represents the British Royal family.
Thank you HG & ORMV for a very interesting conversation
This was Great. Thanks HG, & Our recollections May Vary. 👍
That poor mother. I can’t imagine being in her shoes.
You make a good point about not paying attention to Meghan & Harry anymore …scrolling on by & not clicking on stories, HG. I have to be honest & tell you I think we’d all be a lot better off if we chose to do that.
Having said that though… my interest in trying to evaluate Meghan Markle led me to you, HG.
And I LEARNED so much about narcissism from you … I already knew some of it because I spent from the time I was 10 years old to 17 years old … in the clutches of a narcissist stepmother. Your videos have helped me process it all & what happened to me & helped me put my bad memories in the past.
Also, I listen to many of your other videos on a daily basis. Your series on Lucy Letby was incredible.
Meghan & Harry are still like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I keep wondering IF Harry will ever escape her. He’s still demanding apologies from the Royal Family for her, still wanting armed security to protect her from imaginary threats. He’s still touring with her, trying to help her create the phantasmagoric public image she convinced him she was. And getting disrespected & humiliated by her at every outing.
I wish peace & recovery for His Majesty King Charles. And the same for HRH Catherine, Princess of Wales. The Royal Family is doing the right thing by disengaging from Meghan entirely & giving Harry the cold shoulder, too.
Great video, HG. Thank you for your great work.
I can relate to the need to follow all of the above on Meghan Markles as I had 2 definite narcissists in my life and haven't had any justice or acknowledgement for the damage they left in their wake.And I didn't know at that exact time but I just felt something was really not right about Markles on her wedding day. Especially after seeing the expression on our late Queens' face that day .She knew something wasn't right about her.
Collectively we are all horrified at the behaviours exhibited by TOW, we can understand the 'why' BUT like watching a train wreck happening in slow motion, we cannot look away while we wait for the implosion.
Well written! A definite train wreck.
I've found so many new content creators thanks to this series ❤
They are all such wonderful people
Henry V111 was ruthless if his'friends' and family went against him or they became of no use to him. including Cardinal Wolsey, Thomas Moore etc. He discarded his wives if they were of no longer any use to him. Such as not producing male heirs. His ghosting of them was much more ruthless though - often meeting the scaffold.
He stayed friends with Anne of cleaves. The one he called horse face. Got her a very nice big house, servants and money. He only killed two of his wives for adultery ( lol im not saying that's normal. It still happens in extremist religions). They other ones died naturally or he divorced. Then he died when still married. He had one son with a mistress but he died at 15. Henry could have gotten tons of mistresses prego and the males would be legit to be king. I wonder why he just didn't do that. He was a jerk to Mary and Elizabeth both. People of the future are lucky. They could look at all the video of people and historical moments. It would be.fascinating to be able to see him and hear his voice. Im sure a lot of propaganda we know would be so different.
@@lorig7077 'only' ??
He treated Anne of Cleves well because it benefitted him to do so. His alliance with her brother was too important. He did seem to take out his frustration of Thomas Cromwell though.
Another fantastic interview HG, you are simply brilliant! What I particularly love in this series of excellent interviewing skills is that you select many small (and growing) channels like this one that I had not even heard of before and I thought I knew them all! Her comparisons with Anne Boleyn, her being an estranged parent like myself and her answers to your “this or that” quiz which were identical to how I might have answered made me subscribe to the channel right away! Thank you HG, awesome work!❤
How about washing the stench off in the shower?😂😂😂
“Because it’s fun”. Yes! Thank you for that honesty! I, too, get a kick out of reading comments, seeing memes, etc.
Omg this ladies situation with her son sounds so similar to mine it's chilling. But I actually got accused of domestic violence against my son. It blind sided me as I was so focused on going no contact with other narcissists in my life 😢
That was so interesting. Thank you both.
Exactly, HG,
Honesty 😊
Revenge for her and family matters.
Thank you for continuing this series, HG. You're helping a bigger audience.
How nice that you interview "Recollections" 👍. I love her channel!!!
Thank you!
Baka Lives Matter
Apparently not!!
This is a great interview. Very Raw and honest.
Recollections, I feel for you. I hope your child finds his way back home.
Thank you! ❤😊
A grown up son should not look for his way back home, but find his own way and his own home, be it through painful experiences.
Oh HG, that was so enjoyable to listen to. It’s really nice to hear the opinions of the lady from the US. She’s obviously had a lot to deal with but was so level headed about the awful situation she is going through. Also, her knowledge of Henry VIII was very impressive. I hope her story has a good ending and her son can heal his relationships with his family and friends . Sadly we often learn our greatest lessons from the mistakes we make and I have no doubt he will be a much stronger and wiser person after this experience.
This was excellent, and so informative! Hope things work out, ORMV :)
You are a very good interviewer HG well done!
Great chat 👍🏼 I do love this series 😊
Thank you very much HG and ORMV for another great conversation. I have loved all of the conversations that you have been doing with my favourite channels.
Big hugs to ORMV for what she went through, and is going through, with her son, that is horrific. I will be posting more to her directly about this on her channel, but wow.
Dear HG: I think that both Lady C and The Body Language Guy/The Royal Rogue (Jesus, but those are his two channels, which I am sure you know) would both be amazing conversations for you to have, please and thank you =).
Really really great talk
Anne Boleyn persuaded Henry to bin the Catholic Church and out of that was born the Church of England and Protestants. This change, completely changed the Country, and still there are issues with religion to this day. Anne had a huge influence. It was Cromwell who was her downfall.
Not correct.. she paid little effect to his own learnings, well under way before he met Anne.. Anne simply agreed with his perspective from her own European times. It was Cromwell that pushed it.. via the money aspect which sealed the deal
She didn't persuade him. The Lutheran teachings were widely known at the time and it played to Henry's vanity. If anyone had influence it was the scheming Cromwell. By leaving the Church of Rome, no longer were his hands tied by the Pope, he became Supreme Head of the Church on earth and through the desecration of the monasteries and cathedrals became the richest King and greatest landowner in England's history. To suggest Anne had that much power is frankly ridiculous.
By separating from Rome he could divorce Catherine and marry her. As if any woman, or man for that matter had power over that physcopath is to not understand the matter.
Only Cromwell could manage him, and look what happened to him in the end..all because he encouraged him to marry Anne of Cleeves.
Not even the best historians can entirely see what caused Anne Boleyn's sudden downfall, which happened in a matter of weeks, tho Cromwell was instrumental in it and Henry was on to his next infatuation, but Anne Boleyn, which ever way one looks at it, outside The Tudors and Phillipa Gregory novels, was one of the most wronged people in England's Royal history.
@@fabulousnewt770 a Phillipa Gregory fanciful fact books.
It was Henry , Cromwell was his instrument.
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My light bulb moment for me was their engagement interview was when Harry said something about them being a team doing royal engagements and the look on her face said to me no way is that happening.
Next time I’d love to hear about this lady’s interactions with Guest Speaker 😊
I can't believe I forgot!! Haha! HG is good - he gets it in a rhythm where you just answer! Haha
She has 100% described my daughter in law ...jealous of my relationship with other daughters in law ,hell bent on causing conflict and then blames everybody else....my son suddenly broke all contact and sent me very upsetting messages. They then stopped all contact with my granddaughter's to whom i was very close too. I always refused to get into any conversation/argument with her so this was the only way to hurt me. My family are all close and my son and his wife basically have no support/friendship from either family...their choice .
This is by far my favorite Interview you have done HG! Great job to both of you.
Thank you, HG. I think Henry was a narcissist per excellence. Our Beef Eater guide at the Tower of London told a little tale that was both heart wrenching and indicative of what a terror he was. We forget the ages of these women. Catherine Howard was only 15 when he sentenced her to the Tower for her execution. We were shown the room where she sat for 2 weeks, her window and only view the place where she would be beheaded. I was very emotional where Ann Boleyn was beheaded as well, a clear glass cushion on a pedestal stood in the pouring rain as we heard the story of how she was falsely accused and lost her head too. I wish you would do a series on this particular era for us. Even if Harry were to have options, he would not kill TOW. He may dream about her not existing anymore, but not at his own hand, I can almost guarantee that.
I agree, Henry was 100% a narcissist. He made himself the head of the church, for gods sake lol!
I thought it was an interesting study to flip the tables a bit, though I know it isn't the accepted wisdom. 😊❤
Jane Grey was 17 when executed then they tried to rinse and repeat with her sister😪 can talk ur opinions about these things at ORMV.
@theastralalliance-v3r
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We did that tour years ago. Had the same feelings seeing those places.
i agree love the soap opera element.
I agree … George the Giant Slayer is a great suggestion also I would love to hear conversations with Scandalous Media, Lost Beyond Pluto, the Royal Rogue, Sue Me, Leilani of Barbados & Black Belt Secrets
First of all, Henry and Harry were foul-tempered, narcissistic, red-headed Spare.
Anne was betrayed by the powerful men in her family. She went to Hever twice, hoping Heney would find someone else. Her Uncle Norfolk and her father made bank off her back.
Yes, after seven years, she did get some attitude. However, she was extremely pious and held him off six years. Yes, when the Pope wouldn't grant the divorce she introduced Henry to the Protestant church so he could grant his own divorce. (Pretty narcissistic to make yourself "Supreme Head of the Church of England Only Under Jesus Christ!).
What really went wrong for Anne is two-fold. First, she promised Henry a son. She had Elizabeth and then three miscarriages of sons. Just like Catherine, who had a son that only lived a brief while, a girl, and five miscarriages. He had gotten a Papal Dispensation to marry Catherine because she was married to his brother. He conveniently found another verse that said, paraphrasing, "whoever sleeps with his brother's wife, uncovers his nakedness, and they will have no sons." Henry had an affair with Anne's sister Mary, and had for sure one, and probably two children. But, he couldn't use that again because it hadn't worked for the divorce.
Secondly, Henry has a hideous jousting accident early in 1536. He was unconscious by many contemporary sources for two hours. I would imagine there would be brain swelling for a while. The stress of the accident caused Anne to miscarry her third son. That's when he snapped and sent her to the tower. But, he had to have a good reason so he said that she had an affair with 4 men at court, and to make sure it stick, incest with her brother. Oh, abd that she had been a witch that caused his obsession for 10 years with her.
So, to conclude she was executed for not giving him a son (probaly Kell's disease), and, likely because he had a traumatic brain injury literally days before he had her sent to the tower.
The cool part is that his precious son only ruled six years, Mary I five. Elizabeth, Gloriana, ruled 45 years and ushered in the "Golden Age." I hope he saw it from Hell.
Excellent discussion. It's so interesting to hear different reasons for why people got involved in the megsit discussion. Thank you so much for all these excellent discussions, sir. Looking forward to the next video in the series.
HG, I keep watching for the freak fascination piece and connection with the RUclips Community.
Amazing interview. ORMV is so informative 👏 .
❤ to both of you. Great material 👏.
If that were my child; I'd play the long game. Do not call police for 'wellness checks' ~ child will notice when police no longer show up. Do not ask thier friends if they've heard from him; that too will get back to them if they are still in contact. Stop all of it; but retain a private investigator for a report twice a month. You'll know facts; and receive a general description if they're are in good health ~ you'll also know when they're kicked to the curb. After a while and when it appears they are finished; send PI over stating you've been looking for them ~ since they've been gone so long...
Good ideas. We haven't requested a check after the last one. And he has long since blocked all his friends. But you have some great ideas. Thank you!
@@Recollectionsmayvary13 you're welcome. If he has moved since last known location it may take some time/money to relocate but after that its just a matter of the PI taking time to confirm status is the same which does not cost much. If its changed, they'll search that out new location as well. Just a way to give you some peace of mind until he breaks from her for good and contacts you or comes home :)
A brilliant piece HG....
Amber Heard was stopped, so that gives hope to detractors of TOW that her time will come, too.
We are dealing with the aftermath of the discard by the narcissist. Two years later, and the walls are still up. He talks more to his Dad than to me, which is the reverse of how things were before the narcissist. The narcissist’s rage was directed toward an older sibling, and he is still believing of the brainwashing. Horrible situation all around, so RMV, I do understand the pain and heartache y’all are dealing with.
I watch videos of markle or any narcissists is because it's a form of therapy for me and for example with HG Tudors information i can finally feel like i get the answers that i need rather than just talking about how i feel.
Another excellent conversation HG. Loving these so much. 👍